That whole Kohlinar/not-Kohlinar thing on Vulcan combined with the telepathic contact with V'ger really did a number on Spock and his abilities regarding interpersonal behavior.
My wife and I waited in line for three hours to see this film on our 13th wedding anniversary Have never regretted the time we spent waiting to see this classic.
The cast had been working together for a month. This was Leonard Nimoy's first scene with his old friends, on the bridge and makeup. He said he never was so nervous before in his life. One great actor of our time.
@@K-11609 The best part was when Uhura said "It's how we all feel, Mr. Spock," then Spock, totally ignoring her, turns and says to Kirk, "Captain, with your permission I will now discuss these fuel equations with the engineer," Kirk nods, Spock turns around, walks into the turbolift, Kirk says, "Mr. Spock, welcome aboard" and Spock takes another step further away from them and lets the doors shut behind him. I was rolling 😂
I've always loved this movie. It gets overlooked these days, in the whole Trek franchise, but it was really something special when it came out. It was far from perfect -- it was slow-paced, and short on action, and in the aftermath of the cultural event that Star Wars turned out to be, that did it no favors at the box office, but it WAS a good story, and I do think it even benefiitted somewhat by being such an opposite to the action adventure that Star Wars was; it wasn't trying to copy the formula that had made Star Wars so successful. To really appreciate this film, I think you have to remember -- or if you weren't around then, imagine -- what it was like to be a Star Trek fan in 1979. There was no franchise; it was just the original series. That was it. TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and all the movies were yet to be imagined. It was just a short-lived, but enormously popular TV series and its spinoff novels and merchandise, and the torch that the fans had kept alight in loving memory. So to see those beloved characters back, on the big screen, and with a motion picture budget to bring forth the best special effects that the technology of the time was capable of... It was the answer to a prayer. As I indicated, the movie was slowly paced and short on action, and I have no doubt that if it had been a stand-alone film with unknown actors, unconnected with Star Trek, but using the same story, it would have probably flopped and been long since forgotten. But it had just enough of the old magic to satisfy the fans and ensure that Star Trek would continue and grow into something bigger.
Thank you for your wonderful tribute to the show that was. I just finished the second episode of Star Trek Picard, and all I can think is "how the mighty have fallen!"
@Daniel Stetson Not really the "The Doomsday Machine" -- the Voyager probes weren't built as weapons -- but "The Changeling" (season 2 ep.3). This is why one of the nicknames floating around for ST:TMP since 1979 when it premiered was "Where Nomad Has Gone Before."
I have to disagree with you Darren. The first movie was too cerebral, similar to the failed pilot without Kirk. The main reason why Trek was green lit was because of Star Wars in 1977. Only to follow the box office smash two years later with weak special effects, dull writing, lack of action, and lack of spark that made the original TOS run so entertaining. The TOS actors also admitted that this first movie was more about the special effects than the characters and that's a damn shame. Luckily, Wrath of Khan fixed that in the next movie.
@@legendarygamer570 To each his own. Yes, this movie overemphasized the effects. Partly that was the result of studio interference. Before they brought Douglas Trumbull in to finish things, a different FX company had been hired, and spent millions without producing even a single minute of usable effects footage. They they had to spend lots on Trumbull to finish it, and the attitude from Paramount became one of "we want to SEE these special effects we've spent so much money on." That's the main reason they overdid it. The endless script rewrites while shooting was taking place didn't help the story either. You're mistaking me. I love the film, but I never claimed it was perfect, or even one of the best Trek films. It's definitely a flawed gem, and Star Trek II was a far better picture, that ironically captured the spirit of the series far better (I say ironically, because Roddenberry had been kicked upstairs to a powerless job as "executive consultant" and creative control was turned over to Harve Bennett, who had never watched the series before; and also because Roddenberry disliked the overt militarism of Starfleet as portrayed in STII). But ST:TMP WAS still a good movie, and what's "too cerebral" for some people, is highly entertaining for others. There's room for that in sci fi, as there is in any genre, as there's room for more action-oriented stories.
God, I miss soundtracks that movies like this, from this era, had. They were so intense and powerful, simple and gentle, as well as fueled with mountains of emotions both good and bad. These soundtracks were the operas of the 70-80's movies. Some are just so epic that no matter when you hear them you know immediately what movie it was or reminds you of those first moments of those movies all over again. Just think about it, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, Back to the Future, The Last Starfighter, Witness, and so many others.
Ah a kindrid spirit. The sound tracks were definitely better back them. Like they place importance on them. Modern movies all sound the same. Apart from Drive.
Spock pursued Vulcan philosophy more earnestly than most Vulcans. His complicated upbringing may have something to do with it. But his mind meld with VGER changed him. He was an enlightened Vulcan after that. His relationship with his own emotions had him more conflicted than ever until that moment. He was suffering, yearning, just like VGER was. Compare that to how he was when he told Admiral Kirk to assume command of Enterprise in the beginning of Star Trek II. He had made peace with his emotions, and it allowed his compassion to bloom fully. He was such a different man by the time he took command of Enterprise as her proper captain. The JJ Abrams Spock never encountered VGER and never had the epiphany necessary to realize that mastering your emotions requires embracing them, not struggling against them. At least for Spock.
I always believed that Sareks bloodline was a blessing for the Vulcan people and their society. Both Spock and Sybok brought so much to the table and is both shame that Vulcans need so god damn long to adapt to a new way of thought or least a modification of their current mindset. Well, they have a million reasons to take baby steps, but imagine that all of Vulcan reached Spocks level of....Vulcanity....Vulcanism...whatever, something green blood with pointy ears.
I couldn’t agree with you more Mr.Merritt,then the sets in Star Trek II & III were to me the same as the first one & at the end of Star Trek IV I couldn’t wait for what the Enterprise A was going to look like and then we got 50/50 TNG sets and the Enterprise A is the main character and it should of have!
@@speedracer1945 Yes Speed Racer it was like Kirks Shuttle viewing the refit Enterprise,the Enterprise going into warp and through Vyger and so many more! I saw STMP on the big screen on a summer camp showing in the early 80’ and saw it as a adult and made the movie more richer,Jerry Goldsmith score was mind blowing.Sorry this reply was so long
@@ChrisRoth1972 The theater I was it at reminded of how the epic films like Ben Hur cuz it had the Hollywood feel . They played the soundtrack as we waited for the film . After years of watching it on TV in b/w , it was fun .
I grew up watching Star Trek the TOS with my late dad. I remember the day he took me to see this movie, This movie officially made me fall in love with Star Trek. I fell in love with the Enterprise due to this movie. What a grand gal she was!
This film is genuinely amazing. At ten years old in 1979, I was actually rather puzzled and disappointed by the gray-blue and beige uniforms, the slower pace, and subdued performances. But I am genuinely glad they had the courage to make one “hardcore” science fiction film. Great set design, special effects and soundtrack elevate this film to a high level.
This film was designed to be a higher budget rehash of an episode of TOS. The cast works damn hard to carry this lackluster special effects-driven mess of a film and they do a damn fine job.
One thing to note in this scene is that Spock was still very much operating by vulcan standards. Vulcan culture considers outbursts of emotion not only vulgar and barbaric, but literally immoral. it's a failure to control yourself, something that only poorly-taught children do. It's therefore good manners to ignore a fellow vulcan's accidental displays of emotion, which is what Spock was doing in this scene. It took him a while to readjust to being among humans.
the whole undertone of spock struggling to reconcile his human emotions and his vulcan passions was the crux of the movie. at the beginning he is close to achieving vulcan perfection- and it shows throughout that he is troubled by having given that up. Essentially failed his rite of passage. until he attempts to mind meld with Vger, and he learns that cold emotionless logic is empty and shallow, as Vger is the perfectly cold calculating logical machine most vulcans would aspire to be, yet it is entirely bereft of meaning in it's existence as a result. As he says to Kirk, the simple feeling, of grabbing your friend's hand in friendship and camaraderie, is entirely beyond Vger's comprehension. At that point, Spock truly came to terms and reached essentially, balance between his emotions and Vulcan stoicism. A balance which lasted him basically the rest of his life, well into the TNG era, where Data qustions if he has missed his humanity, to which he simply replies "I have no regrets", Data of course, quickly realizing having or not having- regrets is a human emotional trait
Spock was probably still (pun unavoidable) feeling the effects of the Kholinar discipline, which we see in his initial scene. His emotional detachment was even stronger at this point, which his highly emotional friends/shipmates were unaware of.
I remember seeing this scene when I was young where the crowd in the movie house gasp in Spock's entrance. Personally, it wouldn't be Star Trek without Mr. Spock.
The audience in my theater cheered and applauded. Back in the late 70s, most movies didn't have big audiences or packed houses, except maybe a premiere. I saw TMP a couple of days after it opened (so, maybe a Sunday) and there was a LINE to get in. I had never seen a line for a movie before, and I grew up in a city of 2 million people. There were about 25 rows of people, again an uncommon sight. Never had sat in an audience that big before, and it was the first time I had seen people really react to the screen with applause and cheers and such. Star Wars was the only other movie of that time I had ever seen that behavior too, especially when Han rescued Luke from Vader at the end. That was my first time hearing cheers to a movie.
This movie certainly had its share of problems, but it was so great to see the original actors back together again. This scene was played perfectly - with Spock burying his feelings for his fellow crew members, to the point of being impolite, and bordering on being called something worse. Good thing V'ger came around to remind Spock that he should examine his feelings, and value his friends. Although he does overplay his new found feelings a bit much by the end of the film, just like Data did with his "emotion chip" in the first Next Generation movie.
I like the look and and shape of the long range shuttle of Starfleet. I was a kid when I saw the movie the first, it was the beginning of a long passion for Star Trek the most beautiful and smart SF franchise of all times thank you Gene Roddenberry.
The concept was apparently "borrowed" for a shuttle design in the Star Wars prequels; a small ship with a detachable hyperdrive, to be left in orbit when making planetfall.
Not that thin, they used lenses that squashed the image horizontally by 10-20% whenever anyone was onscreen (further emphasised here because this is a super widescreen movie). It was a style at the time, see also Ghostbusters and Alien.
LOVED this scene. One of my favorites from this movie. When Spock first arrives on the Enterprise I literally catch my breath! Now I know this movie was rather long, however I loved the whole thing. Such great moments! And this was one of them!
Spock was very preoccupied with his failure to fully purge his emotions. His unusually cold demeanor was his way of compensating for his frustrated state, I think.
He had all that baggage from childhood, and he lived in Sarek's shadow. I think he viewed himself as a failure for not mastering his emotions. The man who stepped on board Enterprise in this scene was suffering, incomplete. Just like VGER. The mind meld changed him. He had realized that his view of his own emotions was all wrong. I believe he hated his emotions, and therefore part of himself. "I should have known," he said, laughing. He had become enlightened. There's a reason Buddha is so frequently depicted as laughing. That man lying in sick bay and laughing "got" the concept of emotions for the first time in his life. He would later tell Volaris that logic was only the beginning of wisdom, not the end. I think if Spock had believed that at the beginning of the film, he would have thought the Kolinahr was unnecessary. Only after embracing his emotions and therefore fully embracing himself could he be the serene, compassionate man counseling Admiral Kirk to assume command of Enterprise at the beginning of Star Trek II.
Spock was trying so hard to be 100% Vulcan and fit the "model" set forth, by his people. He finally figured out, being half human was OK and actually it became a plus he used, often to his advantage!
Mr Spock really helped me accepting being during different during my teenage years. I owe him so much and happy that I had the privilege to experience his character development. IMO, he was the best role model I could have, apart from my parents. Not corresponding to a "norm" is fine. Now he helps me with my daughter, who also does not correspond to a "norm". By the way, does anybody of us anyway?
he had also come straight from the desert by himself for months so probably took a while to get back out of hia own head and used to other people let alone overly effusive humans
Spock was almost finishing purging all emotions through the Kolinhar ritual. Spock began the process of the Kolinahr ritual after retiring from Starfleet circa 2270. By the end of his 2270s stay on Vulcan, Spock had completed all but the final ritual of the Kolinahr, but failed to do so after receiving powerful telepathic signals from the V'ger entity in deep space, and experiencing strong emotions as a result. If I was studying for a decade and I fail last minute because some entity talked to me telepathicly, I would go see what it wants, but I'll look as pissed as this
The onscreen chemistry between Captain Kirk, Spock, & McCoy and with “the crew” always looked genuine and natural making it relatable for me and why many gravitated to watch the show. IMO
Still my personal favorite Star Trek movie. Absolutely brilliant and the story, acting and visuals are so "Star Trek", more-so than any of the other films! And what more can be said about Mr. Jerry Goldsmith's music that hasn't been said!!! Love it! 5 out of 5 stars from me!
When it came out as a kid is was fantastic, as Trek grew this seemed "lame", as time went on it really seemed this might be the best "Star Trek" ever, a moving Blueprint of Star Trek and humans adventure into space. It gets across a feeling of the realities of getting older, a job, the lighting is almost hospital sterile reminding us of cold reality. The stars falling away and Jerry's music at the beginning.... music almost tells a story of struggle, loss and victory ... almost like we are looking out the window of the aft section of a ship traveling "someplace"... the feeling of such vastness..
I honestly don't see how you can rate the story so high. It's a lazy reshash of a story from a TOS episode and the worst part of the movie, with too much emphasis on the effects being the 2nd worst part. Gene let the high budget go to his head and it shows. The actors really deserve more credit for how much work they put in to carry this movie.
It took a long time for the character arc of Spock to realize that there are benefits to using his human halves 'emotion' as fuel to complete mission objectives. The way every highly motivated operator does. Crew empathy codifies team performance which benefits mission completion.
Shatner was 49 when filming started... he has stated he got into top shape by running the hills around his home in LA with a loaded back pack on his shoulders... he certainly looked like the flying kick Kirk of the original series... albeit with a new rug.
Seems to me when TNG started, we should've seen one of the old crew, maybe Sulu or Chekov, as an active Starfleet Admiral. Scotty was alive, stuck in a pattern buffer. Kirk was in the Nexus. Spock was an Ambassador at that point. McCoy was a retired Medical Admiral. Seems they should've given Sulu, Chekov, or Uhura an office at HQ, coming on from time to time, maybe once or twice per season, giving Captain Picard orders on some top priority mission.
@@johnw2026 TNG was set an entire _century_ after TOS. That's _way_ too long for any of the original characters to be still active in Starfleet, even given lengthened human lifespans by then. Spock is Vulcan, and they live twice as long. The only reason Kirk and Scotty weren't already either dead, or _much_ too old to serve were, as you noted, their circumstances were way out of the ordinary. Remember when McCoy showed up in the pilot, he was a quite decrepit, long-retired admiral and was _a hundred and thirty-seven._ It would be like having ninety-five year-old admirals in today's navy. Not plausible. The whole point of TNG was to be the _Next_ generation. If they had wanted to leave it open for any TOS characters to show up on a frequent basis, they would have only set the show say forty or fifty years after Kirk's era _at most,_ so that it still would have been realistic to have TOS characters at a reasonable age be on active duty.
@@nickm5419 That's a saying I hear a lot, but it doesn't apply here. The vast majority of soldiers _don't_ die young, even in wartime. Even in battles that are considered absolute bloodbaths, the casualties are only about 30% -- that means 70% of the men on that battlefield _are living._ (Admirals aren't soldiers, BTW, the term soldier rightly applies only to those in the army. Even marines, who do essentially the same job most of the time, don't like being called soldiers; they want to be called marines.) And the majority of casualties are taken by the enlisted ranks, and by junior to middle-ranking officers. The top brass are usually back slightly behind the lines in command posts, and not being shot at directly. (That's not cowardice or anything, it's simply practical necessity for them to exercise effective command.) And the other reality is that when officers get too old, they do genuinely become less effective, in general. There might always be exceptions, but this is generally the case. At the start of America's involvement in WWII, one of the first things George C. Marshall did as army chief of staff was clean house, pensioning off a lot of elderly colonels and generals and promoting younger officers to replace them. Not only do old men often tend to lack the aggressiveness and drive you need in a senior commander, many of them are also hidebound in their thinking, and too wedded to using the tactics of the last war.
There's pretty much no way protocols would allow for someone to dock and board anonymously, but it was 100% worth overlooking the goof to have this scene. It's heartbreaking and overwhelmingly joyous all at once.
It could have been an ambassador on a top secret mission, even today Admirals move from ship to ship via helicopter under a standard callsign or masked as a re-supply drop. It's not unusual for Admirals to drop onto a ship completely unannounced either.
I wish I had this level of respect from my co-workers as Spock does, and he doesn't even have to show "Human Emotions" and still commands respect just by his sheer reputation! Wow!
As much as I dislike this movie, this scene was so good. In 4 mins we established Spock is back but he is not quite his self. The look on the TOS crew mirrors the fans who were watching TMP for the first time. What the hell was wrong with Spock? He was always the COOLEST character on the ship. Now he was...not himself. We spend the rest of the movie going with Spock as he rediscovers himself. It so simple yet brilliant.
Inaccurate observation or cheap joke. Assumption: You most likely neither met someone with Asperger syndrome nor do You know about what humans would call "Vulcan arrogance".
What a great reboot that was. I remember seeing it as a kid when my babysitter took me to see it. It was on par with the original Star Wars which I also saw a few years earlier when it was released in cinemas.
Released 40 years ago last December...so sad so many are no longer with us... RIP: Leonard Nimoy DeForest Kelley James Doohan Majel Barrett Persis Khambatta Grace Lee Whitney Mark Lenard Plus all the extras and crew who are no longer with us. And of course Gene Roddenberry. You all revitalised a franchise that continues to span the decades.
Like when the school district pissed off the new music teacher and she quit, I had to come out of retirement just over a year into it so all my past decades of hard work wouldn't disappear into the vapors. Mr. Wade is back!! Yippee!
This was the last time Leonard Nimoy played Spock trying to bury his human half. From here on out he plays him as totally comfortable with his human half.
It was this adventure that got him thinking on things that led to his own philosophies on logic and emotion, which he brings up with Lt Valeris in Star Trek VI. He discovered pure logic wasn't the endgoal, but instead finding a symbiosis between logic and emotion, which allowed V'Ger to evolve.
On bit of a side note, i always fou d it interesting that just about everything they built for the movies, the ship miniatures, got used and reused many times in the subsequent shows or movies that came after, yet they never showed that long range shuttle again in anything, i always thought it was a cool little design there and could've been used again for something, not just a one and done, only a bit disturing that it's shuttle with no front window, other than that, still a cool design with a pod that could detach from the engine body, very underutilized for Star Trek in my opinion
By this time Robert Wise had a few films under his belt that were considered high points in all of filmdom. As has been expressed in other points on this board, Wise evidently sought out the polar opposite of the pulp-inspired action of ‘Star Wars’ back to the elegiac slower-pace of ‘2001’. Just watched that film very recently, and the similarities in pacing are pronounced. Also, and this cannot be overstated, Wise was, with the help of all the moviemaking craft that anxious money could buy, trying in every cinematic way to ‘make a lot out of a little’, while working with actors who’d spent their careers ‘making a lot INTO a little.’ The contrast shows, but nevertheless all of their hard work, all of it and all of them, are right up there on the screen. This clip is the first time in a long time that I’ve seen this material… I owe it to all of them to see the full movie again.
I like how in the first post-kolihnar scenes Spock does seem as cold and disconnected with emotions as other characters have been saying he was all along, when he, as with most other Vulcans, are far more personable and prone to reserved emotional responses than they like to imply. Nimoy does a good job as coming across as legitimately Alien here.
I love the way Spock knows that he's way above the rest of the crew, that any "requests" or "offers" would be too damn illogical to refuse; so much so that he doesn't or barely acknowledges any response.
Spock could only reach the ship by travelling at warp speed, which is why his shuttle was equipped with nacelles. Enterprise had also recently had an issue with its transporter that resulted in the deaths of two people. Once Spock's shuttle had reached the vicinity of the ship, it was easier and safer to dock it rather than transport Spock over.
@@wizardsuth Suth, who fled from Lungold to hide in Har's realm in the form of a Vesta? Who saw the coming of the Star Bearer 1,000 before he came, but did not see that he came from Hed?
@FocusFanatic And there's an episode of NG where doctor mccoy is speaking to data. and refers to him as vulcan like. but more in the doctor's crude speaking.
Yeah, that's totally the Look you give to your "Friend" when he returns after a longer period of silence between you, like he's the lost Love of your Life. I don't know why so many hated the Film. It gives so many clues, literature Devises to the characters and their forthcoming path. It's one of my favorite of the first three.
I hate this film... the story/plot is fine... the problem always was and still is, it's a 45 minute plot stretched into a 2-hour+ movie with an hour or more of mostly no-dialog long stretches of film just going "hey, look at the special effects". This plot could have been the greatest ToS 1 hour episode with 45 minutes of story and 15 minutes of commercials. This movie just DRAAAAAAAGS, the pacing is just terrible, and that's why most people hate this film. Watching an interesting scene for two minutes is one thing, watching this movie for over 2 hours from start to finish feels like a chore.
I have to admit this was cool part in the movie And I did see on the big screen as kid in Christmas 79 ,I did not get the movie the first time ,in till the video rental shop came along .Then two later after the movie had come out .I saw it on VHS a couple times then understood the movie better ,and never thought it was a bad movie .Just is a little different then all the other Star Trek movies at that time .But it was what really got me in to Star Trek .before it just reruns of the show .in which I saw little of Star Trek .But "The Motion Picture " brought right in to the world of Star Trek .
Glad I'm not the only one. I like the full officer look. They could have used a more looser pants. More of a khaki style. After all shouldn't the uniforms be comfortable?
@@leftcoaster67 I disagree. The crimson and white uniforms from ST2-ST6, & Generations were more like Military uniforms. Check out the 101st AB way of blousing the pants in boots, and the new Class A Uniform that brings back the old WW2 dress uniform style.
This clip is from a restored version but you should have seen the reactions from the movie patrons when they first saw Spock on the Enterprise bridge back in mid December 1979, When at that time it cost 2.75 dollars to see the movie. Still get a kick out of it.
@@MasterJediDude None the less, they were not in the original film, and I for one sorely missed that on the big screen when the movie was released Christmas of 79
@@davidc.2878 this movie was so behind in production, it’s a miracle that they even met the premiere date. In some cases, the film in the canisters arrived wet when the theater owners opened them. I guess they didn’t have time to add the bridge sounds, among other things. The Director’s cut addressed these things, but it’s not the version they show on TV or streaming.
Spock: Permission to beam aboard
NCC 1701: Negative, we need your ship to do flippies for the camera.
Spock: Fascinating
And his human-half (as a child), Spock goes ''WHEEEE'' !
Gotta admit, it was cool flip tho.
Cameras panning across the various models they made were 90% of the movie...
@@MichaelJantzen42And lingering close-ups of the OS cast made up another 8%.
They were really nice flippies indeed!
That whole Kohlinar/not-Kohlinar thing on Vulcan combined with the telepathic contact with V'ger really did a number on Spock and his abilities regarding interpersonal behavior.
Uhura’ reaction to first seeing him is magical.
Shock,awe and gladness all in one gasp.
My wife and I waited in line for three hours to see this film on our 13th wedding anniversary Have never regretted the time we spent waiting to see this classic.
Thank you for existing! :-)
The waiting was great! the movie? . . . Meh. What's with the tinny computer voice? That's not what Computer sounds like.
I can't even imagine both of you seeing the ship for the first time. That sounds like a truly special moment
The cast had been working together for a month. This was Leonard Nimoy's first scene with his old friends, on the bridge and makeup. He said he never was so nervous before in his life. One great actor of our time.
I can believe that. His nervousness sure came out in this scene!
Can I ask where you read that? Sounds like a good read!
@@georgehenderson7783 Honestly that just sells the scene more imo
@@K-11609 The best part was when Uhura said "It's how we all feel, Mr. Spock," then Spock, totally ignoring her, turns and says to Kirk, "Captain, with your permission I will now discuss these fuel equations with the engineer," Kirk nods, Spock turns around, walks into the turbolift, Kirk says, "Mr. Spock, welcome aboard" and Spock takes another step further away from them and lets the doors shut behind him. I was rolling 😂
@@georgehenderson7783 In the novelization, Bones tells Kirk "Never look a gift Vulcan in the ears, Jim."
@@trevormoses5061 My favorite Bones quote is without question "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" 😄
Spock is just annoyed that the entire crew is still in their jammies.
Lol
their called Jammy Jams!
The 1970's: When the men were men, and the polyester knew it.
hahaha, i was just thinking that xD, "why are they all in their jammies" xD
Don't you like pajamas too?
Poor Decker. Booted out of the Captain’s Chair AND the Science Station.
Shadowkey392 Meh, He would do a good job. Besides his dad was Commodore Decker, and we all seen how that turned out.
But he gets to spend quality time with what's her face.
He'd get pushed aside for Harry Kim if it came down to it.
leptonsoup337 lol
jeff James true...
Don't care what anyone else says: the Enterprise-refit and Enterprise-A ship designs are the most elegant.
I love that view out the V.I.P. lounge windows. Only time we see out of them.
Same ships.
Personally I prefer the E but that’s partly because it feels like a natural evolution to the refit/A design
@@christopherwhiteford3263 - yeah, for me the E is a close second to the A/Refit design.
Agreed
I've always loved this movie. It gets overlooked these days, in the whole Trek franchise, but it was really something special when it came out. It was far from perfect -- it was slow-paced, and short on action, and in the aftermath of the cultural event that Star Wars turned out to be, that did it no favors at the box office, but it WAS a good story, and I do think it even benefiitted somewhat by being such an opposite to the action adventure that Star Wars was; it wasn't trying to copy the formula that had made Star Wars so successful. To really appreciate this film, I think you have to remember -- or if you weren't around then, imagine -- what it was like to be a Star Trek fan in 1979. There was no franchise; it was just the original series. That was it. TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and all the movies were yet to be imagined. It was just a short-lived, but enormously popular TV series and its spinoff novels and merchandise, and the torch that the fans had kept alight in loving memory. So to see those beloved characters back, on the big screen, and with a motion picture budget to bring forth the best special effects that the technology of the time was capable of... It was the answer to a prayer. As I indicated, the movie was slowly paced and short on action, and I have no doubt that if it had been a stand-alone film with unknown actors, unconnected with Star Trek, but using the same story, it would have probably flopped and been long since forgotten. But it had just enough of the old magic to satisfy the fans and ensure that Star Trek would continue and grow into something bigger.
It set a bunch of traditions that are used to this day (the fly around while in drydock, boarding ceremonies...)
Thank you for your wonderful tribute to the show that was. I just finished the second episode of Star Trek Picard, and all I can think is "how the mighty have fallen!"
@Daniel Stetson Not really the "The Doomsday Machine" -- the Voyager probes weren't built as weapons -- but "The Changeling" (season 2 ep.3). This is why one of the nicknames floating around for ST:TMP since 1979 when it premiered was "Where Nomad Has Gone Before."
I have to disagree with you Darren. The first movie was too cerebral, similar to the failed pilot without Kirk. The main reason why Trek was green lit was because of Star Wars in 1977. Only to follow the box office smash two years later with weak special effects, dull writing, lack of action, and lack of spark that made the original TOS run so entertaining. The TOS actors also admitted that this first movie was more about the special effects than the characters and that's a damn shame. Luckily, Wrath of Khan fixed that in the next movie.
@@legendarygamer570 To each his own. Yes, this movie overemphasized the effects. Partly that was the result of studio interference. Before they brought Douglas Trumbull in to finish things, a different FX company had been hired, and spent millions without producing even a single minute of usable effects footage. They they had to spend lots on Trumbull to finish it, and the attitude from Paramount became one of "we want to SEE these special effects we've spent so much money on." That's the main reason they overdid it. The endless script rewrites while shooting was taking place didn't help the story either.
You're mistaking me. I love the film, but I never claimed it was perfect, or even one of the best Trek films. It's definitely a flawed gem, and Star Trek II was a far better picture, that ironically captured the spirit of the series far better (I say ironically, because Roddenberry had been kicked upstairs to a powerless job as "executive consultant" and creative control was turned over to Harve Bennett, who had never watched the series before; and also because Roddenberry disliked the overt militarism of Starfleet as portrayed in STII). But ST:TMP WAS still a good movie, and what's "too cerebral" for some people, is highly entertaining for others. There's room for that in sci fi, as there is in any genre, as there's room for more action-oriented stories.
I was 10 years old when my parents took me to the theater to see this film. The whole audience applauded when the credits started to roll.
God, I miss soundtracks that movies like this, from this era, had. They were so intense and powerful, simple and gentle, as well as fueled with mountains of emotions both good and bad. These soundtracks were the operas of the 70-80's movies. Some are just so epic that no matter when you hear them you know immediately what movie it was or reminds you of those first moments of those movies all over again. Just think about it, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, Back to the Future, The Last Starfighter, Witness, and so many others.
Ah a kindrid spirit. The sound tracks were definitely better back them. Like they place importance on them. Modern movies all sound the same. Apart from Drive.
That's why I have the film scores of the aforementioned movies!
If I’m not mistaken this was one of, if not the last movie released with an overture at the beginning.
True Spock trying to squash his emotions. But you can see that even though the attempt he's glad to be back among friends on the Enterprise.
Where do you get that from?
@@mdteletom1288 It comes from watching a lot of Star Trek. Plus seeing how Kirk Spock and McCoy interact with each other.
This is what made Spock such an interesting character
That's only because we know Spock. Otherwise, you can't really tell. He's utterly unsentimental here
He almost cracked a grin at Checkov
Spock pursued Vulcan philosophy more earnestly than most Vulcans. His complicated upbringing may have something to do with it. But his mind meld with VGER changed him. He was an enlightened Vulcan after that. His relationship with his own emotions had him more conflicted than ever until that moment. He was suffering, yearning, just like VGER was. Compare that to how he was when he told Admiral Kirk to assume command of Enterprise in the beginning of Star Trek II. He had made peace with his emotions, and it allowed his compassion to bloom fully. He was such a different man by the time he took command of Enterprise as her proper captain. The JJ Abrams Spock never encountered VGER and never had the epiphany necessary to realize that mastering your emotions requires embracing them, not struggling against them. At least for Spock.
I always believed that Sareks bloodline was a blessing for the Vulcan people and their society. Both Spock and Sybok brought so much to the table and is both shame that Vulcans need so god damn long to adapt to a new way of thought or least a modification of their current mindset. Well, they have a million reasons to take baby steps, but imagine that all of Vulcan reached Spocks level of....Vulcanity....Vulcanism...whatever, something green blood with pointy ears.
I always get a lump in my throat when I see the refit Enterprise. Beautiful design.
I couldn’t agree with you more Mr.Merritt,then the sets in Star Trek II & III were to me the same as the first one & at the end of Star Trek IV I couldn’t wait for what the Enterprise A was going to look like and then we got 50/50 TNG sets and the Enterprise A is the main character and it should of have!
Such a wonder see its majestic sight on the big silver screen.
@@speedracer1945 Yes Speed Racer it was like Kirks Shuttle viewing the refit Enterprise,the Enterprise going into warp and through Vyger and so many more! I saw STMP on the big screen on a summer camp showing in the early 80’ and saw it as a adult and made the movie more richer,Jerry Goldsmith score was mind blowing.Sorry this reply was so long
@@ChrisRoth1972 The theater I was it at reminded of how the epic films like Ben Hur cuz it had the Hollywood feel . They played the soundtrack as we waited for the film . After years of watching it on TV in b/w , it was fun .
You might want to get that checked out. Could be an inflamed lymph node....
I grew up watching Star Trek the TOS with my late dad. I remember the day he took me to see this movie, This movie officially made me fall in love with Star Trek. I fell in love with the Enterprise due to this movie. What a grand gal she was!
This movie's only grown more in my esteem over the decades. The original series' cast, for all the behind-the-scenes drama, meshed like no other.
This film is genuinely amazing. At ten years old in 1979, I was actually rather puzzled and disappointed by the gray-blue and beige uniforms, the slower pace, and subdued performances.
But I am genuinely glad they had the courage to make one “hardcore” science fiction film. Great set design, special effects and soundtrack elevate this film to a high level.
This film was designed to be a higher budget rehash of an episode of TOS. The cast works damn hard to carry this lackluster special effects-driven mess of a film and they do a damn fine job.
I love how Spock's personal arc completes in TMP. He's finally comfortable with his human half. Of course, then he has to relearn it in TVH.
I absolutely love the harp (I think) when Spock walks through the door and meets Chekov
Decker gets fired from two jobs on his own ship.
One thing to note in this scene is that Spock was still very much operating by vulcan standards. Vulcan culture considers outbursts of emotion not only vulgar and barbaric, but literally immoral. it's a failure to control yourself, something that only poorly-taught children do. It's therefore good manners to ignore a fellow vulcan's accidental displays of emotion, which is what Spock was doing in this scene. It took him a while to readjust to being among humans.
Well that makes total sense....This means my Ex was a Vulcan...Cold and emotionless.
@Foxxtronix you're right of course, but he could have at least said that it was agreeable to see them all again.
the whole undertone of spock struggling to reconcile his human emotions and his vulcan passions was the crux of the movie. at the beginning he is close to achieving vulcan perfection- and it shows throughout that he is troubled by having given that up. Essentially failed his rite of passage. until he attempts to mind meld with Vger, and he learns that cold emotionless logic is empty and shallow, as Vger is the perfectly cold calculating logical machine most vulcans would aspire to be, yet it is entirely bereft of meaning in it's existence as a result. As he says to Kirk, the simple feeling, of grabbing your friend's hand in friendship and camaraderie, is entirely beyond Vger's comprehension.
At that point, Spock truly came to terms and reached essentially, balance between his emotions and Vulcan stoicism. A balance which lasted him basically the rest of his life, well into the TNG era, where Data qustions if he has missed his humanity, to which he simply replies "I have no regrets", Data of course, quickly realizing having or not having- regrets is a human emotional trait
@@FlameG102 Well put indeed.
Spock was probably still (pun unavoidable) feeling the effects of the Kholinar discipline, which we see in his initial scene. His emotional detachment was even stronger at this point, which his highly emotional friends/shipmates were unaware of.
They all knew the mission would succeed once Spock was aboard.
I remember seeing this scene when I was young where the crowd in the movie house gasp in Spock's entrance. Personally, it wouldn't be Star Trek without Mr. Spock.
He had the longest Star Trek career out of all of them.
@@connormccloy9399 No, Majel Barret did
@@intercommerce Majel Barrett died in 2008. Lenard Nimoy appeared as Spock in Star Trek (2009) and the sequel Into Darkness.
The audience in my theater cheered and applauded. Back in the late 70s, most movies didn't have big audiences or packed houses, except maybe a premiere. I saw TMP a couple of days after it opened (so, maybe a Sunday) and there was a LINE to get in. I had never seen a line for a movie before, and I grew up in a city of 2 million people. There were about 25 rows of people, again an uncommon sight. Never had sat in an audience that big before, and it was the first time I had seen people really react to the screen with applause and cheers and such. Star Wars was the only other movie of that time I had ever seen that behavior too, especially when Han rescued Luke from Vader at the end. That was my first time hearing cheers to a movie.
@@connormccloy9399, Majel Barret's voice was also in the 2009 movie as the Computer.
This movie certainly had its share of problems, but it was so great to see the original actors back together again. This scene was played perfectly - with Spock burying his feelings for his fellow crew members, to the point of being impolite, and bordering on being called something worse. Good thing V'ger came around to remind Spock that he should examine his feelings, and value his friends. Although he does overplay his new found feelings a bit much by the end of the film, just like Data did with his "emotion chip" in the first Next Generation movie.
I like the look and and shape of the long range shuttle of Starfleet. I was a kid when I saw the movie the first, it was the beginning of a long passion for Star Trek the most beautiful and smart SF franchise of all times thank you Gene Roddenberry.
The concept was apparently "borrowed" for a shuttle design in the Star Wars prequels; a small ship with a detachable hyperdrive, to be left in orbit when making planetfall.
In the novel it's called a "warp sled".
you should look at the oringal tv series
The warp sled is of a Vulcan design. The reddish impulse drive emission is an Vulcan trademark.
When they were all THIN!
Not that thin, they used lenses that squashed the image horizontally by 10-20% whenever anyone was onscreen (further emphasised here because this is a super widescreen movie). It was a style at the time, see also Ghostbusters and Alien.
Lumibear actually it was because of anamorphic lenses, rather than a chosen style
Wait till you get old lol
I am old!
It's not blobs in space.
LOVED this scene. One of my favorites from this movie. When Spock first arrives on the Enterprise I literally catch my breath! Now I know this movie was rather long, however I loved the whole thing. Such great moments! And this was one of them!
Thank you Gene Rodenberry / William Shatner, All the cast, and people who worked on Star Trek.
You truly gave us all your best. Thank you
Spock was very preoccupied with his failure to fully purge his emotions. His unusually cold demeanor was his way of compensating for his frustrated state, I think.
I always read it as a measure of how successful he was at purging his emotions. He found it harder to relate to human emotions.
He had all that baggage from childhood, and he lived in Sarek's shadow. I think he viewed himself as a failure for not mastering his emotions. The man who stepped on board Enterprise in this scene was suffering, incomplete. Just like VGER. The mind meld changed him. He had realized that his view of his own emotions was all wrong. I believe he hated his emotions, and therefore part of himself. "I should have known," he said, laughing. He had become enlightened. There's a reason Buddha is so frequently depicted as laughing. That man lying in sick bay and laughing "got" the concept of emotions for the first time in his life. He would later tell Volaris that logic was only the beginning of wisdom, not the end. I think if Spock had believed that at the beginning of the film, he would have thought the Kolinahr was unnecessary. Only after embracing his emotions and therefore fully embracing himself could he be the serene, compassionate man counseling Admiral Kirk to assume command of Enterprise at the beginning of Star Trek II.
Spock was trying so hard to be 100% Vulcan and fit the "model" set forth, by his people. He finally figured out, being half human was OK and actually it became a plus he used, often to his advantage!
Mr Spock really helped me accepting being during different during my teenage years. I owe him so much and happy that I had the privilege to experience his character development. IMO, he was the best role model I could have, apart from my parents. Not corresponding to a "norm" is fine. Now he helps me with my daughter, who also does not correspond to a "norm". By the way, does anybody of us anyway?
he had also come straight from the desert by himself for months so probably took a while to get back out of hia own head and used to other people let alone overly effusive humans
Spock was almost finishing purging all emotions through the Kolinhar ritual. Spock began the process of the Kolinahr ritual after retiring from Starfleet circa 2270. By the end of his 2270s stay on Vulcan, Spock had completed all but the final ritual of the Kolinahr, but failed to do so after receiving powerful telepathic signals from the V'ger entity in deep space, and experiencing strong emotions as a result. If I was studying for a decade and I fail last minute because some entity talked to me telepathicly, I would go see what it wants, but I'll look as pissed as this
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I saw this so long ago I don't remember much of it. I saw it at a drive in movie theater in Alpine, Texas.
The onscreen chemistry between Captain Kirk, Spock, & McCoy and with “the crew” always looked genuine and natural making it relatable for me and why many gravitated to watch the show. IMO
Agreed, it’s what the next gen crew and other Treks lacked in my opinion. They all take themselves too seriously.
Spock
@@thephantasm581 ty lol
@@leonidesrivera9812 sorry but there's no other crew like og
true :)
Still my personal favorite Star Trek movie. Absolutely brilliant and the story, acting and visuals are so "Star Trek", more-so than any of the other films! And what more can be said about Mr. Jerry Goldsmith's music that hasn't been said!!! Love it! 5 out of 5 stars from me!
When it came out as a kid is was fantastic, as Trek grew this seemed "lame", as time went on it really seemed this might be the best "Star Trek" ever, a moving Blueprint of Star Trek and humans adventure into space. It gets across a feeling of the realities of getting older, a job, the lighting is almost hospital sterile reminding us of cold reality.
The stars falling away and Jerry's music at the beginning.... music almost tells a story of struggle, loss and victory ... almost like we are looking out the window of the aft section of a ship traveling "someplace"... the feeling of such vastness..
I honestly don't see how you can rate the story so high. It's a lazy reshash of a story from a TOS episode and the worst part of the movie, with too much emphasis on the effects being the 2nd worst part. Gene let the high budget go to his head and it shows.
The actors really deserve more credit for how much work they put in to carry this movie.
Spot on. My favourite of the series. And the special effects are still so damn good.
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Me after coming back to the same workplace after I resigned 2 yrs prior but have no choice of working there again😂
If that was anybody but Spock. We would say. "Dam this guy is a real a hole" ...lol
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To be honest, he was acting like a jerk in that scene. He makes Sarek look warm and friendly.
@@Xerxes2005 Sarek always gave off the vibe of a patient but superior being.
It took a long time for the character arc of Spock to realize that there are benefits to using his human halves 'emotion' as fuel to complete mission objectives. The way every highly motivated operator does. Crew empathy codifies team performance which benefits mission completion.
Actually the Pajama uniforms were a prank on Star Fleet's part.
Few words spoken but so much conveyed in his performance. Leonard Nimoy was a great actor.
Shatner was 49 when filming started... he has stated he got into top shape by running the hills around his home in LA with a loaded back pack on his shoulders... he certainly looked like the flying kick Kirk of the original series... albeit with a new rug.
Decker, from Captain to science officer, to executive officer.( after Spock arrives.) Of course he was already executive officer after demotion.
Correction: Shatner was 47 when filming began during the summer of 1978.
Pity James Doohan expanded as the film's progressed.
@@R33Racer most of them did expand thats why the second film they changed to the British solder outfits since you couldn't see their girth.
I was think how DeForest looked pretty slim too. These guys are rockin middle age for sure.
Love this I think I'll get my bluray out and watch this tonight for the thousandth time
That just made me wildly happy for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Thank you for existing! :-)
3:55 "I told you we should have got him a gift card when he left instead of that set of fish knives."
When Star Trek TMP first came out in theatres I was shocked at how much the original cast had aged. Now I think they all look young again!
Same here, probably because I'm older now than they were then. 😅
Wish we would have gotten 7 seasons out of the original crew.
Seems to me when TNG started, we should've seen one of the old crew, maybe Sulu or Chekov, as an active Starfleet Admiral.
Scotty was alive, stuck in a pattern buffer.
Kirk was in the Nexus.
Spock was an Ambassador at that point.
McCoy was a retired Medical Admiral.
Seems they should've given Sulu, Chekov, or Uhura an office at HQ, coming on from time to time, maybe once or twice per season, giving Captain Picard orders on some top priority mission.
@@johnw2026 TNG was set an entire _century_ after TOS. That's _way_ too long for any of the original characters to be still active in Starfleet, even given lengthened human lifespans by then. Spock is Vulcan, and they live twice as long. The only reason Kirk and Scotty weren't already either dead, or _much_ too old to serve were, as you noted, their circumstances were way out of the ordinary. Remember when McCoy showed up in the pilot, he was a quite decrepit, long-retired admiral and was _a hundred and thirty-seven._ It would be like having ninety-five year-old admirals in today's navy. Not plausible.
The whole point of TNG was to be the _Next_ generation. If they had wanted to leave it open for any TOS characters to show up on a frequent basis, they would have only set the show say forty or fifty years after Kirk's era _at most,_ so that it still would have been realistic to have TOS characters at a reasonable age be on active duty.
Well there was the idea of Star Trek phase 2 but that was later scraped and became The Motion Picture.
@@Hibernicus1968 i would be scared of an old Admiral, always fear an old man in an occupation where the good soldiers die young
@@nickm5419 That's a saying I hear a lot, but it doesn't apply here. The vast majority of soldiers _don't_ die young, even in wartime. Even in battles that are considered absolute bloodbaths, the casualties are only about 30% -- that means 70% of the men on that battlefield _are living._ (Admirals aren't soldiers, BTW, the term soldier rightly applies only to those in the army. Even marines, who do essentially the same job most of the time, don't like being called soldiers; they want to be called marines.)
And the majority of casualties are taken by the enlisted ranks, and by junior to middle-ranking officers. The top brass are usually back slightly behind the lines in command posts, and not being shot at directly. (That's not cowardice or anything, it's simply practical necessity for them to exercise effective command.)
And the other reality is that when officers get too old, they do genuinely become less effective, in general. There might always be exceptions, but this is generally the case. At the start of America's involvement in WWII, one of the first things George C. Marshall did as army chief of staff was clean house, pensioning off a lot of elderly colonels and generals and promoting younger officers to replace them. Not only do old men often tend to lack the aggressiveness and drive you need in a senior commander, many of them are also hidebound in their thinking, and too wedded to using the tactics of the last war.
Dude in the background at 2:52 chill af holding up that panel.
Roddenberry: “So, ILM, how much of your spectacular model work do you want to show off?”
ILM: “Yes.”
This wasn't ILM though
@@starsiegeplayer It was still spectacular!
@@CrniWuk Yes. The model work in this film is fantastic.
@@starsiegeplayer spot on, ILM didn't start working with the franchise until ST2.
TMP special effects were done by a company called Magicam.
Spock getting dropped off by Amazon drone halfway to Alpha Centauri.
There's pretty much no way protocols would allow for someone to dock and board anonymously, but it was 100% worth overlooking the goof to have this scene. It's heartbreaking and overwhelmingly joyous all at once.
‘Anonymously’ ?? It had a “Grade 1 Priority”
It could have been an ambassador on a top secret mission, even today Admirals move from ship to ship via helicopter under a standard callsign or masked as a re-supply drop.
It's not unusual for Admirals to drop onto a ship completely unannounced either.
Lol goof. It was an audience participation story point. Not even close to a goof. Its a film not real life.
I wish I had this level of respect from my co-workers as Spock does, and he doesn't even have to show "Human Emotions" and still commands respect just by his sheer reputation! Wow!
Who the hell gets respect by showing emotions. It's always reputation/qualifications/skills. Maybe in Kindergarten you get respect from emotions.
I saw this with dad when it came out. I loved how it got the big screen treatment with a beautiful score and awesome affects.
As much as I dislike this movie, this scene was so good. In 4 mins we established Spock is back but he is not quite his self. The look on the TOS crew mirrors the fans who were watching TMP for the first time. What the hell was wrong with Spock? He was always the COOLEST character on the ship. Now he was...not himself. We spend the rest of the movie going with Spock as he rediscovers himself. It so simple yet brilliant.
the kolinar will do that to a vulcan. total purge it's like a complete hard driver reboot.
Great Thank You! Old Classic! Peace & Health
Persis was such a beautiful lady! RIP
I was Very taken when I first saw her :)
yea good lookin gal.
When I first saw the Enterprise refit it became my favorite to this day. Great movie.
Spock went full Asperger.
That made me LOL
It is who such sci-fi staples represent, see also Data.
?!?!?Right?
In the future it's called logic.
Inaccurate observation or cheap joke.
Assumption:
You most likely neither met someone with Asperger syndrome nor do You know about what humans would call "Vulcan arrogance".
This film has so many great moments with the cast.
A greatly underrated and underappreciated movie.
What a great reboot that was. I remember seeing it as a kid when my babysitter took me to see it. It was on par with the original Star Wars which I also saw a few years earlier when it was released in cinemas.
I'm working with an inspector whose personality is exactly like this version of Spock.
Not Cluseau? pitty.
Released 40 years ago last December...so sad so many are no longer with us...
RIP:
Leonard Nimoy
DeForest Kelley
James Doohan
Majel Barrett
Persis Khambatta
Grace Lee Whitney
Mark Lenard
Plus all the extras and crew who are no longer with us.
And of course Gene Roddenberry.
You all revitalised a franchise that continues to span the decades.
"I've been monortoring your communications Captain". "And everything is fucked up !!!"
I've heard of being given the 'Cold' Shoulder, but Mr. Spock's was just Too 'Cool'
Like when the school district pissed off the new music teacher and she quit, I had to come out of retirement just over a year into it so all my past decades of hard work wouldn't disappear into the vapors. Mr. Wade is back!! Yippee!
I remember my mother getting giddy with this scene, seeing Spock and Chapel on the bridge together. The crew was together again.
This was the last time Leonard Nimoy played Spock trying to bury his human half. From here on out he plays him as totally comfortable with his human half.
actually it took that zap from v'ger to get him back to his old self.
It was this adventure that got him thinking on things that led to his own philosophies on logic and emotion, which he brings up with Lt Valeris in Star Trek VI. He discovered pure logic wasn't the endgoal, but instead finding a symbiosis between logic and emotion, which allowed V'Ger to evolve.
Really? What about IV(Voyage Home) after being regenerated ? It took Spock a while to rediscover his human side then .
@@jayfredrickson8632 that's different he just got his soul inserted back into his body. who knows how long you would need to boot up lol
@@jayfredrickson8632 I disagree but I didn’t post what I did to start a debate anyway. It was just an observation.
Well, I guess that's one way to get your old job back.
Love the glamour shots of the Enterprise from this movie!
On bit of a side note, i always fou d it interesting that just about everything they built for the movies, the ship miniatures, got used and reused many times in the subsequent shows or movies that came after, yet they never showed that long range shuttle again in anything, i always thought it was a cool little design there and could've been used again for something, not just a one and done, only a bit disturing that it's shuttle with no front window, other than that, still a cool design with a pod that could detach from the engine body, very underutilized for Star Trek in my opinion
Are you sure they didn't reuse the base of that thing for the Reliant, or elsewhere?
By this time Robert Wise had a few films under his belt that were considered high points in all of filmdom. As has been expressed in other points on this board, Wise evidently sought out the polar opposite of the pulp-inspired action of ‘Star Wars’ back to the elegiac slower-pace of ‘2001’. Just watched that film very recently, and the similarities in pacing are pronounced.
Also, and this cannot be overstated, Wise was, with the help of all the moviemaking craft that anxious money could buy, trying in every cinematic way to ‘make a lot out of a little’, while working with actors who’d spent their careers ‘making a lot INTO a little.’
The contrast shows, but nevertheless all of their hard work, all of it and all of them, are right up there on the screen. This clip is the first time in a long time that I’ve seen this material… I owe it to all of them to see the full movie again.
Slow-paced my ass. This movie is a gem of pure atmospheric magic.
My god it was a snoozefest ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
THESE are the good looking shuttles, great big nacelles to get you to where you need to go.
I like how in the first post-kolihnar scenes Spock does seem as cold and disconnected with emotions as other characters have been saying he was all along, when he, as with most other Vulcans, are far more personable and prone to reserved emotional responses than they like to imply. Nimoy does a good job as coming across as legitimately Alien here.
Just picture him singing "Hallelujah" & "Bitter Dregs" , both sides of that Vulcan Brain engaged ****
I loe how he portrays Spock here, clearly getting overwhelmed with emotion at seeing his old friends and having to act cold so as not to give it away
What cracks me up is the extra leaning against the wall behind Kirk's closeups on the bridge.
I love the way Spock knows that he's way above the rest of the crew, that any "requests" or "offers" would be too damn illogical to refuse; so much so that he doesn't or barely acknowledges any response.
Above. Different.
I can understand McCoy arriving by shuttle but Spock has no transporter phobia.
Spock could only reach the ship by travelling at warp speed, which is why his shuttle was equipped with nacelles. Enterprise had also recently had an issue with its transporter that resulted in the deaths of two people. Once Spock's shuttle had reached the vicinity of the ship, it was easier and safer to dock it rather than transport Spock over.
@@wizardsuth Thanks-I haven't seen the movie since I saw it in the Theater in the late 1970s.
@@wizardsuth Suth, who fled from Lungold to hide in Har's realm in the form of a Vesta? Who saw the coming of the Star Bearer 1,000 before he came, but did not see that he came from Hed?
I love the music as Spock arrives.
Spock always has to make an entrance.
He’s such a diva 😂
@@matthewcorcoran2891 ha ha, you beat me here! 😂
Just leave Spock as he is. This guy is more robot than Data, all work work work.
@FocusFanatic And there's an episode of NG where doctor mccoy is speaking to data. and refers to him as vulcan like. but more in the doctor's crude speaking.
By far not the best Trek movie, but it has it's moments.
I actually love it. It's very cerebral
Indeed.
I like how they're just in awe of him.
Yeah, that's totally the Look you give to your "Friend" when he returns after a longer period of silence between you, like he's the lost Love of your Life. I don't know why so many hated the Film. It gives so many clues, literature Devises to the characters and their forthcoming path. It's one of my favorite of the first three.
I hate this film... the story/plot is fine... the problem always was and still is, it's a 45 minute plot stretched into a 2-hour+ movie with an hour or more of mostly no-dialog long stretches of film just going "hey, look at the special effects".
This plot could have been the greatest ToS 1 hour episode with 45 minutes of story and 15 minutes of commercials.
This movie just DRAAAAAAAGS, the pacing is just terrible, and that's why most people hate this film. Watching an interesting scene for two minutes is one thing, watching this movie for over 2 hours from start to finish feels like a chore.
There are days when i can relate to Mr Spock.
Bones has a great dynamic with Kirk as his sometimes conscience.
When the turbo doors opened as Spock appeared the audience cheered and clapped in the theater .
Spock: " I see you've been doing the Enterprise up a bit,
I don't like it. "
You know, every part I see Shatner in, if there is ever a meaningful pause, my brain automatically adds "...Spooock."
Surely......you......must ......mean Khaaaan!
The scene that originated the exaggerated use of “SPAAAWWK!” amongst Bill Shatner impressionists and comedians. 😂
Old earth’s proverb.. What the Fook happened there!!✨💫🚀
As soon as he boarded you knew we were in safe hands.
I have to admit this was cool part in the movie And I did see on the big screen as kid in Christmas 79 ,I did not get the movie the first time ,in till the video rental shop came along .Then two later after the movie had come out .I saw it on VHS a couple times then understood the movie better ,and never thought it was a bad movie .Just is a little different then all the other Star Trek movies at that time .But it was what really got me in to Star Trek .before it just reruns of the show .in which I saw little of Star Trek .But "The Motion Picture " brought right in to the world of Star Trek .
R.i.p Leonard and Dee Kelley (Deforest)Bill Shatner misses you guys and we all do too
These were the best uniforms (still miss the miniskirts and Go Go Boots)
Glad I'm not the only one. I like the full officer look. They could have used a more looser pants. More of a khaki style. After all shouldn't the uniforms be comfortable?
But the worst for practicality. They had to get help to go to the restrooms.
They didn't wear Go-Go boots. Those were white and only came up to about mid-calf. I know, I wanted a pair so badly, but never got them.
Ah, the good old days. ;-)
@@leftcoaster67 I disagree. The crimson and white uniforms from ST2-ST6, & Generations were more like Military uniforms. Check out the 101st AB way of blousing the pants in boots, and the new Class A Uniform that brings back the old WW2 dress uniform style.
This clip is from a restored version but you should have seen the reactions from the movie patrons when they first saw Spock on the Enterprise bridge back in mid December 1979, When at that time it cost 2.75 dollars to see the movie. Still get a kick out of it.
The shuttle that does a back-flip!
*The longest silence EVER!* 😂
That's the most Spock thing I've ever seen
1:29 When a simply 180 degree yaw maneuver won't do.
Is it just me, or is the older Spock/Nimoy -- despite his über-stoicism here -- even more handsome than the younger one?
More distinguished, perhaps. ;)
Sulu: "Why it's Mister..."
Kirk: "Spock. Spock."
Spock: "That's my name. Don't wear it out."
It's a thing of beauty love to look at it kinda gives chills want to make the model
Really miss the TOS ship sounds in this movie.
YES! I couldn't put my finger on what felt wrong on the Bridge. But that's it. The ambient noises.
Watch the Director’s cut, because they added them back in.
@@MasterJediDude None the less, they were not in the original film, and I for one sorely missed that on the big screen when the movie was released Christmas of 79
@@MasterJediDude Why oh why would they have ever left them out? The set seems dead without them.
@@davidc.2878 this movie was so behind in production, it’s a miracle that they even met the premiere date. In some cases, the film in the canisters arrived wet when the theater owners opened them. I guess they didn’t have time to add the bridge sounds, among other things. The Director’s cut addressed these things, but it’s not the version they show on TV or streaming.