So ProRes RAW *can* be output at 1080p! Everything I've seen up to now only mentioned 4K. I'll be sending my camera away in mid January and I guess I'll be ordering more 6TB hard drives. I really appreciate the work that Atomos and Nikon have put in to give us this powerful feature for the Z cameras.
Z6 is the only full frame camera under 10k capable of capturing RAW video, but not only under 10k even with the upgrade and the Ninja V it's under 3k. Crazy amount of power for that price.
The Panasonic S1h will also get raw output from Hdmi shortly, recording 5.9k raw to the Ninja v. That's if things havemt changed. Supposed to be released early 2020
@@stevierayphoto5921 yea I've been following the sigma fp closely and it looks pretty promising especially for the price point.. Although I just watched a review with some sample footage the other day but I wasnt all that impressed with his particular footage. Still great to see these companies pushing the bar on these small form factor cameras.
Canon cameras with Magic Lantern firmware have been able to record actual RAW footage for years. It is a bit hard to set up, since it is a hack, but it works great. Not sure if those cameras supported 4K though.
Grateful that this is finally being delivered!!! Bought the Filmmaker’s kit in Feb in anticipation but I am worried when all demo (like Apple hyping its iPhone 11 Pro Max) feature dialogue-LESS sampling with Hit or Music... So, are there any issues with sync’ing up audio with the HDMI delay of recording to the Ninja V? I’m going to be using a Zoom F4 and write the Time Code to the Z6 but I’m a little muddy on his the Video being transferred from the camera to the Ninja remains sync??? Unless the delay is entirely consistent???
Now’s the time for Blackmagic to get Prores Raw to work on Resolve because until then this isn’t particularly useful. I’d rather not be grading in FCPX or Premiere
Resolve is a platform to push BlackMagic hardware, and this directly competes with BlackMagic RAW and the pocket cameras, I'd be surprised if they did, but a welcome surprise.
@@sarfaraz.hosseini if more cameras start using Prores raw hopefully blackmagic will change their minds. They should at least make it work in Resolve Studio the paid version
Yes from what I can see, if their is a crop I'm not noticing it like before... also opens up the different resolutions and frame rates for 1080p for N-log example the highest is FX 1080 60p in 12bit N-log - and big improvement on AF in 12 bit
I need to know if this will display and playback 120fps recordings. I bought another brand that would not display while I was recording 120fps only up to 60fps.
Qippy's Channel I’m pretty sure they went knocking on Canon’s door first... But there’s no way Canon would just “give away” functionality like this. Their entire product pyramid is stacked very precariously using the addition and omission of (what seem to be arbitrary) features.
Dasa Auto it’s a shame that they operate the way the do I guess, they would be so dynamic if they were a bit more open as a company, anyway still love their products though
I've tried to setup my NinjaV with the Z6(purchased the upgrade) and for some reason when I change the codec to ProRes Raw HQ, the record button won't turn on. If I switch to any other codec, the record button works fine. I'm not sure what's going on. The SSD drive I'm using is not Atomos, it's a WD. But, I can still record with it on the other codecs. Just not on Raw leaving my without the raw upgrade that I waited so long to get. Any idea why?
Hi CTM Productions, Sorry to hear you're having this issue. Please raise a support ticket here: atomos.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new so we work on resolving this for you. Cheers, Louis - Atomos
RAW is great editing to Nikon Z system, but some more support for software would be appreciated. Hope the support comes for Resolves soon. There needs to be a support for Resolve, because that is the color grading tool of choice for many users and having access to this footage makes most sense for grading, not editing. FCPX is Mac only so that is somewhat limiting and premier is not as a good for grading, which again this footage is worth it. You need extra data for color grading not editing.
Do you not know the history of Atomos? It was founded by guys that left Black Magic. There's bad blood between them and I doubt it will ever happen. I'm a PC user so FCPX is not an option. I'd like to grade in Resolve as well.
Hi atomos.. does atomos v makes nikon z to shoot unlimited recording? all i know nikon z6 can only shoot 30 minutes max. please answer cause i cant find the detail anywhere... thank u before...
Hello Eva Bourgknecht, Thanks for your comments! Here's a link to a list of authorized resellers in your country.. www.atomos.com/where-to-buy If this helps, please let us know. ATOMOS.
No, because Sony cameras don't enable it. It only works with the Nikon Z6, the first camera that offers ProRes RAW and is in collaboration with Atomos.
@@JustPassingByBaby from my understanding, I'm pretty sure the update will only work with the Ninja V... I also own the shogun so I'm pretty bummed about that.
Houston Brown I purchased my Z6 almost a year ago and only bought the body. I have to send it back, which kinda sucks. Are they replacing the motherboard?!
Not here to defend Nikon, but we don't know. It may be an additional chip on the mobo, or an activation in the firmware that gives them some additional revenue. As Nikon service centers in many countries are actually not Nikon owned but an outsourcing vehicle under Nikon flag, it does not help Nikon whatever they are doing. My guess of what is happening, compared to a PC, is a BIOS upgrade. What we call the camera's firmware is actually a bundle of operating system, drivers, applications and services. If we move over to a real PC, upgrading data or software in eprom chips like BIOS, but also in the minicomputers in e.g. SSD, require special software or boot procedures to be able to do that. Generally, you cannot update BIOS from inside Windows, albeit there are some steps that could be taken in a Windows UI, like installing a new BIOS copy in unused BIOS memory and setting a flag to load that as replacement of the BIOS that is used to boot the motherboard/computer. If such provisions are not built-into the camera's FW (i.e. OS, apps, svcs and drivers) nor its hardware, then you need to do it with a special maintenance arrangement. As to the film-kit version of the Z, the way I understand it, that does not have the capability installed either, just the upgrade has been payed for upfront. How digital works. Not defending it. I run workstations with their SSDs in RAID mode where the RAID level is offered by the motherboard's chipset. Without RAID mode, I can update any SSD's firmware with the vendor's tool, in Windows, during Windows. When drives are used in RAID mode, I can't, as the chipset puts a definition layer over the hardware- and you cannot do one drive at a time without bugging the RAID set. In this case, I need to shut the computer down, take each drive out, update the firmware individually, hope no data are damaged, place the drives back, and rebuild the array, where the array management software may, or may not, review data integrity and repair accordingly. That is not as exciting as inventing a conspiracy theory that Nikon does nothing but stealing your money. After decades of prof Nikon use, I have to say that the past 7 years have shown a couple moments of "if you do that, you don't need enemies" and it is not even likely they had come up with such a plot.
They're adding a small human on the motherboard who presses an ON switch for the RAW function every time you press record. Nikon service centers have a shrinking machine, hence you can't just update the firmware to get this feature.
The 2.20 firmware is needed but the modification needed in addition is a change to the HDMI board.$200 is what the US charges but it can be different in other countries. My local Nikon service center said it takes a day and most of that is the cleaning and checking calibration operation after reassembly and it is a lot less than what the Nikon USA charges.
Did the voice over a guy have a gun pointed at his head?
Sounded like it. "GO GET CREATIVE" sounded as about as exciting as dead man walking.
@@HoustonBrownPhotography Epic lolz.
So ProRes RAW *can* be output at 1080p! Everything I've seen up to now only mentioned 4K. I'll be sending my camera away in mid January and I guess I'll be ordering more 6TB hard drives. I really appreciate the work that Atomos and Nikon have put in to give us this powerful feature for the Z cameras.
Brilliant. Short sweet and to the point! Thank you 😊
Thank you! That was very helpful
Definitely excited to start putting out some proress raw content!
ATOMOS ，Why not use M.2SSD memory card, it is smaller and faster.
I was excited about ProRes Raw but this guy sounds bored out of his mind!
Hi, can you please provide a link for HDMI 2 cables for ninja v with Nikon Z6 2?
Can't for the Lumix S1H to be released!
Anggun Adi me too........
Z6 is the only full frame camera under 10k capable of capturing RAW video, but not only under 10k even with the upgrade and the Ninja V it's under 3k. Crazy amount of power for that price.
The Panasonic S1h will also get raw output from Hdmi shortly, recording 5.9k raw to the Ninja v. That's if things havemt changed. Supposed to be released early 2020
Sigma just dropped a full frame RAW shooter under 2k
@@stevierayphoto5921 yea I've been following the sigma fp closely and it looks pretty promising especially for the price point.. Although I just watched a review with some sample footage the other day but I wasnt all that impressed with his particular footage. Still great to see these companies pushing the bar on these small form factor cameras.
@@stevierayphoto5921 Sigma has significant AF issues (check the review by The Camera Store).
Canon cameras with Magic Lantern firmware have been able to record actual RAW footage for years. It is a bit hard to set up, since it is a hack, but it works great. Not sure if those cameras supported 4K though.
Is there a firmware update or anything that has to happen on the NINJA for the ProRes RAW to become available?
Grateful that this is finally being delivered!!! Bought the Filmmaker’s kit in Feb in anticipation but I am worried when all demo (like Apple hyping its iPhone 11 Pro Max) feature dialogue-LESS sampling with Hit or Music...
So, are there any issues with sync’ing up audio with the HDMI delay of recording to the Ninja V? I’m going to be using a Zoom F4 and write the Time Code to the Z6 but I’m a little muddy on his the Video being transferred from the camera to the Ninja remains sync???
Unless the delay is entirely consistent???
No issues what so ever.
Now’s the time for Blackmagic to get Prores Raw to work on Resolve because until then this isn’t particularly useful. I’d rather not be grading in FCPX or Premiere
Resolve is a platform to push BlackMagic hardware, and this directly competes with BlackMagic RAW and the pocket cameras, I'd be surprised if they did, but a welcome surprise.
@@sarfaraz.hosseini if more cameras start using Prores raw hopefully blackmagic will change their minds. They should at least make it work in Resolve Studio the paid version
Can you please tell me if this eliminated the 90% crop that we were getting before when outputting to 10 bit to the atomos?
from the tests ive seen it is less crop but still a slight one
Yes from what I can see, if their is a crop I'm not noticing it like before... also opens up the different resolutions and frame rates for 1080p for N-log example the highest is FX 1080 60p in 12bit N-log - and big improvement on AF in 12 bit
Is Nikon 30min time limit works on ninja or not? Plz rely me. Can I record 2 hours internet with ninja with Nikon z6
The output data depth says 10bit I thought its 12bit?
I need to know if this will display and playback 120fps recordings. I bought another brand that would not display while I was recording 120fps only up to 60fps.
Hi there, please raise a support ticket here: atomos.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new to further assist you with this.
Cheers, Atomos
I so wish that Atomos can push Canon to consider outputing to Pro Res Raw too!
Qippy's Channel I doubt that will happen, since they already have Canon Raw Lite
Alpicat hmmm it’s just a shame that they limit themselves too much 😔
Qippy's Channel I’m pretty sure they went knocking on Canon’s door first... But there’s no way Canon would just “give away” functionality like this. Their entire product pyramid is stacked very precariously using the addition and omission of (what seem to be arbitrary) features.
Dasa Auto it’s a shame that they operate the way the do I guess, they would be so dynamic if they were a bit more open as a company, anyway still love their products though
Nice
Is there anyway to turn off Nikon z6 monitor when use external one?
I've tried to setup my NinjaV with the Z6(purchased the upgrade) and for some reason when I change the codec to ProRes Raw HQ, the record button won't turn on. If I switch to any other codec, the record button works fine. I'm not sure what's going on. The SSD drive I'm using is not Atomos, it's a WD. But, I can still record with it on the other codecs. Just not on Raw leaving my without the raw upgrade that I waited so long to get. Any idea why?
Hi CTM Productions,
Sorry to hear you're having this issue. Please raise a support ticket here: atomos.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new so we work on resolving this for you.
Cheers, Louis - Atomos
@@AtomosChannel thank you for the response! I was able to make it work! Thanks!
Z7 doesn’t have RAW, only the Z6? A number of press releases recently plus this video all state the Z7 has RAW? Can you please explain?
vry valuable video
when you say which recorder will support Sony fx 9?
how many months have passed and still no information
RAW is great editing to Nikon Z system, but some more support for software would be appreciated. Hope the support comes for Resolves soon. There needs to be a support for Resolve, because that is the color grading tool of choice for many users and having access to this footage makes most sense for grading, not editing. FCPX is Mac only so that is somewhat limiting and premier is not as a good for grading, which again this footage is worth it. You need extra data for color grading not editing.
That neigher Nikon's or Atomos' problem. TALK TO BLACKMAGIC. Its up to them. You putting this comment here is totally pointless
@@fuzzripear Well its someones problem. And why would it be pointless unless it offends some butthurt fanboy.
I thought Proresraw support is coming to both Premiere & Davinci with the launch of Mac Pro.
Do you not know the history of Atomos?
It was founded by guys that left Black Magic. There's bad blood between them and I doubt it will ever happen.
I'm a PC user so FCPX is not an option. I'd like to grade in Resolve as well.
@@robertfeliciano5723 Did you watch the video @ 0:42 ?
is Ninja V recording ProRes RAW 444 or ProRes RAW 422 ?
Hi atomos.. does atomos v makes nikon z to shoot unlimited recording? all i know nikon z6 can only shoot 30 minutes max. please answer cause i cant find the detail anywhere... thank u before...
Yes it does as the Ninja V records externally. No time limit apart from the limits of your SSD drive.
What ssd would you recommend to use with Z6 and Ninja V?
I need this answer too
www.atomos.com/drives
When you use the Ninja V with the upgrade on the Z6, can you shoot 4K 60?
No, up to 4k30 only, or1080p60
Hey guys Im struggling to find a Atomos hdmi cable for my Z7II the sizeof the mini is too big 😭
Hello Eva Bourgknecht,
Thanks for your comments!
Here's a link to a list of authorized resellers in your country..
www.atomos.com/where-to-buy
If this helps, please let us know.
ATOMOS.
Possible to Edit on PC? In which software???
Adobe Premiere
As I know, only Final Cut Pro on Mac offers currently support for prores raw
Will the prores atomos raw work with sony cameras?
No, because Sony cameras don't enable it. It only works with the Nikon Z6, the first camera that offers ProRes RAW and is in collaboration with Atomos.
can we edit this format in anything else than FCPX ? i am on pc...
Davinci Resolve is the hero
@@barmalini it is not supported on Davinci Resolve yet. Use Adobe Premiere for PC.
Edius Pro 9.
So you didnt had to send nikon z6 to Nikon factory to udpate?
Why noone talks about this...
Has to be sent out for the upgrade. No new Nikon Z6 comes Raw ready.
30p? Seriously?
I got sleepy with the narration haahaha
What about shinobi 7 ?
The shinobi is not a recorder. This update is only for the Ninja V
@@johngaleano1291 meant shogun
@@JustPassingByBaby from my understanding, I'm pretty sure the update will only work with the Ninja V... I also own the shogun so I'm pretty bummed about that.
Stop putting your lenses on with the sensor facing upward.
Alert - it's not a firmware upgrade. It's another $200 and you have to ship your camera back to Nikon. :-/ wah wah wah...
I am pretty sure it is a firmware update if you initially purchased the film kit with the camera. Otherwise, you have to send it to Nikon.
Houston Brown I purchased my Z6 almost a year ago and only bought the body. I have to send it back, which kinda sucks. Are they replacing the motherboard?!
Not here to defend Nikon, but we don't know. It may be an additional chip on the mobo, or an activation in the firmware that gives them some additional revenue. As Nikon service centers in many countries are actually not Nikon owned but an outsourcing vehicle under Nikon flag, it does not help Nikon whatever they are doing. My guess of what is happening, compared to a PC, is a BIOS upgrade. What we call the camera's firmware is actually a bundle of operating system, drivers, applications and services. If we move over to a real PC, upgrading data or software in eprom chips like BIOS, but also in the minicomputers in e.g. SSD, require special software or boot procedures to be able to do that. Generally, you cannot update BIOS from inside Windows, albeit there are some steps that could be taken in a Windows UI, like installing a new BIOS copy in unused BIOS memory and setting a flag to load that as replacement of the BIOS that is used to boot the motherboard/computer. If such provisions are not built-into the camera's FW (i.e. OS, apps, svcs and drivers) nor its hardware, then you need to do it with a special maintenance arrangement.
As to the film-kit version of the Z, the way I understand it, that does not have the capability installed either, just the upgrade has been payed for upfront.
How digital works. Not defending it.
I run workstations with their SSDs in RAID mode where the RAID level is offered by the motherboard's chipset. Without RAID mode, I can update any SSD's firmware with the vendor's tool, in Windows, during Windows. When drives are used in RAID mode, I can't, as the chipset puts a definition layer over the hardware- and you cannot do one drive at a time without bugging the RAID set. In this case, I need to shut the computer down, take each drive out, update the firmware individually, hope no data are damaged, place the drives back, and rebuild the array, where the array management software may, or may not, review data integrity and repair accordingly. That is not as exciting as inventing a conspiracy theory that Nikon does nothing but stealing your money. After decades of prof Nikon use, I have to say that the past 7 years have shown a couple moments of "if you do that, you don't need enemies" and it is not even likely they had come up with such a plot.
They're adding a small human on the motherboard who presses an ON switch for the RAW function every time you press record. Nikon service centers have a shrinking machine, hence you can't just update the firmware to get this feature.
The 2.20 firmware is needed but the modification needed in addition is a change to the HDMI board.$200 is what the US charges but it can be different in other countries. My local Nikon service center said it takes a day and most of that is the cleaning and checking calibration operation after reassembly and it is a lot less than what the Nikon USA charges.