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  • The Atlanta Falcons shocked the world and their starting QB Kirk Cousins by drafting Michael Penix Jr. 8th overall. Colin Cowherd says it’s better to be QB-heavy than QB-light, and believes that J.J. McCarthy will be a perfect fit for the Minnesota Vikings, and Drake Maye will struggle with the New England Patriots.
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  • @TheHerdOnFS1
    @TheHerdOnFS1  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Subscribe to the Bear Bets podcast: bit.ly/BearBets

    • @renj24
      @renj24 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How are we still getting the sound wrong!

  • @brianogrady3185
    @brianogrady3185 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +132

    Gonna go out on a limb and say already this is a future “Where Colin was wrong” segment.

    • @rianan6620
      @rianan6620 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      im here with u

    • @toddsalkowski448
      @toddsalkowski448 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Nice. Well done.

    • @pierrekid
      @pierrekid 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I disagree but that was funny +1

    • @jonathan45732
      @jonathan45732 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dudes wrong about 90% of the time

  • @papap8516
    @papap8516 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +185

    I love that when he listed the potential NFC playoff teams the Falcons could face, he just lists the entire NFC North

    • @andrewcoleman6458
      @andrewcoleman6458 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I know my bears are back in these conversations🔥🐻⬇️

    • @B.Piercesports
      @B.Piercesports 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's gonna be a bloodbath in the north this year and the future

    • @zack6701
      @zack6701 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      NFC East is trending down, NFC North trending up

    • @vikingsfan1233
      @vikingsfan1233 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      My Vikings are back in it

    • @rsimmons1980
      @rsimmons1980 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@vikingsfan1233 WE will see. There was a huge fall off after Kirk.

  • @user-rn9co7jc4t
    @user-rn9co7jc4t 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +341

    15 years??!!!
    Penix Jr is 24 with two ACL knee surgeries 😂😂😂😂

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

      Cousins is 35 and just tore his Achilles.

    • @johndough4219
      @johndough4219 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      So did frank gore and he was a rb

    • @cameronbustos6059
      @cameronbustos6059 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@aztronomy7457 his point still stands

    • @braytonnewell6807
      @braytonnewell6807 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro, you’re nitpicking. You get the idea… you’re investing for the long term. You sound like a male Karen.

    • @jrgvsqz
      @jrgvsqz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​​@@aztronomy7457Aaron Rodgers did also at 40

  • @ChargersNationBaby
    @ChargersNationBaby 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +202

    Shoot pennix is cooked💀 ….. Colin being positive about your draft is the kiss of death 🤣

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ouch lol

    • @antonioc3995
      @antonioc3995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      RIP MP…. 🪦🙏🏿 😂😭😭😭

    • @johnporkthe3rd51
      @johnporkthe3rd51 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😂

    • @MrJoeljoy
      @MrJoeljoy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Factual

    • @jefflaliberte6911
      @jefflaliberte6911 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He's always wrong about everything

  • @cobyshelton3392
    @cobyshelton3392 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    “Penix had to carry lesser talent” Colin, don’t make false claims to make your take sound better! His WR1 went 9th overall! The other two are getting drafted too!

    • @Unriven
      @Unriven 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      and Washington's OL won the Joe Moore award 😂

    • @thomasjosephson4428
      @thomasjosephson4428 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      my buddy is a UW fan, he said Penix was propped up by his WRs and the talent on UWs offense.

    • @lukeoja7112
      @lukeoja7112 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I had to pause the video when he said that and make sure I wasn't the only one who thought that was a terrible take 😂

    • @qbsacker5394
      @qbsacker5394 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@thomasjosephson4428 Im a husky fan, your buddy is incorrect. They all helped each other, go look at some of Penix highlights, his throws are next level elite, he puts it in spots for those WR's to be super successful. No doubt Odunze, Polk, Mcmillian are great, but we had quarter backs there before Penix with that WR crew, they didnt do what Penix did.

    • @thomasjosephson4428
      @thomasjosephson4428 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@qbsacker5394 yeah I ( a Vikings fan) was very high on Penix after watching the the CFP game against Texas. That's when he told me his thoughts. I would have loved to see Penix continuing to wear purple next year (same shade of purple as UW FYI) but I'm happy with the Mcarthy Pick.

  • @SpruceGooseTV
    @SpruceGooseTV 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +109

    You can't say the Falcons are simultaneously in "win-now" mode and "win-later" mode. So they always want to win? Interesting tactic, other teams should try that.

    • @BoondockGore
      @BoondockGore 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      But they never do win. So maybe not

    • @nochilllwill
      @nochilllwill 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@BoondockGore sad to see penix go to a poverty franchise wish seattle or miami could have gotten him

    • @StevenCarusone
      @StevenCarusone 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The Chiefs literally do that. Other teams do this.

    • @PanAfricanCommunalist
      @PanAfricanCommunalist 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If they “win now” they’ll never have a chance at a top QB pick until years later

    • @josh-ed7je
      @josh-ed7je 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ⁠@@PanAfricanCommunalistthey’ll never have a chance at a top QB because this team doesn’t tank. They’d rather suck and win enough games to get the 8th pick then go all in and tank for a guy like Caleb

  • @RockNRollGecko
    @RockNRollGecko 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The Vikings moved up 1 spot but it was to block the Raiders and Broncos who according to reports were talking to the Jets

  • @maxstrahan
    @maxstrahan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Ain't no way Penix is playing 15 years lol

    • @Wayne-tk5mx
      @Wayne-tk5mx 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol he will be almost 40 with 50 year old legs 😊

  • @thelaboys2871
    @thelaboys2871 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    As a falcons fan I love that Atlanta will now be in the media talked about more often

    • @popjibbletz
      @popjibbletz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      As a Panthers fan I am glad the Falcons are now making stupid decisions and not us. Enjoy that media

    • @user-vf8ty4fs5o
      @user-vf8ty4fs5o 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@popjibbletz your comment was great!
      As a Detroit Lions fan, I’m glad both your franchises took over for ours as the laughingstocks of the NFL

    • @Tazech
      @Tazech 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      UW Washington fan here. You don’t know how good of a player you just got. The best decision your GM and head coach could have made.

    • @erick4923
      @erick4923 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tazech He is an injury waiting to happen. Nobody questions his skill.

    • @hueyang5943
      @hueyang5943 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Penix will push Kirky to be a better quarterback. I'm sure Kirky won't want to lose the starting job.👍

  • @Izthefaithful
    @Izthefaithful 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    McCarthy seems like the dude who “isn’t as talented” as other qbs drafted but he’ll keep winning games and championships and people will be like how that happen 😂

  • @BrejetyKirby
    @BrejetyKirby 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    “Penix had to carry lesser talent” umm did jj have odunze?

    • @sudoCompetence
      @sudoCompetence 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Washington had a WR who went #9 and an OL that won the Joe Moore award. Washington was stacked lmaoooo

    • @mbo7613
      @mbo7613 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Compared to other CFP teams, minimal run support most of the season which put a lot of pressure on Penix. Your point is valid regarding Odunze.

    • @sujayman9168
      @sujayman9168 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Compare the defenses and offensive line.

    • @SupremePawn
      @SupremePawn 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sujayman9168Maybe he had to carry lesser talent but how can Colin Act like McCarthy didn’t win the chip?? What more did he want JJ to do?

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@mbo7613minimal run support? Dillon Johnson had over 1000 yards rushing

  • @kf7197
    @kf7197 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Crazy that Penix has had an injury every year since 2018 and he’s not considered injury prone to Cowherd but Tua plays a full season and “that’s not happening again”

    • @upf1766
      @upf1766 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Well now you’re just lying aren’t you. Penix hasn’t had an injury for two years. I get not liking the pick cause of Cousins and his contract but hating on the kid with fake facts? Really?

    • @Fahootaef
      @Fahootaef 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@upf1766 Was he just constipated limping around the entire 4th qtr of the national championship?

    • @BillieBailey-th3lc
      @BillieBailey-th3lc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FahootaefWhat was his injury, DOCTOR?

  • @willandizzle
    @willandizzle 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    People are exaggerating how bad of a pick it actually was, but the moment Kirk has a bad game the fans are gonna be restless until Penix is in.

    • @kurtwagner350
      @kurtwagner350 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s not so much a bad pick as bad management, if a young QB was the plan then don’t pay Kirk a massive contract through the entirety of Penix’s rookie contract

    • @chapellebr9603
      @chapellebr9603 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i was shocked but i love this pick!

    • @kdubbss0583
      @kdubbss0583 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kurtwagner350because Kirk was able to get what the market allowed. Minnesota probably wanted him but not at the price he was asking. ATL had the money, and didn’t pay anyone else on the roster. So they’ll be fine in long run

    • @kurtwagner350
      @kurtwagner350 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kdubbss0583 the long run is the problem, kirks deal isn’t just one year.

    • @michaeljohnson7945
      @michaeljohnson7945 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kurtwagner350 A veteran, above-average starting quarterback who has played at an occasional Pro Bowl level is going to cost $45 million per year in today's NFL. There is a major difference between having Kirk Cousins as a team's starting quarterback vs. having spare parts such as Desmond Ridder, Taylor Heinicke and Marcus Mariota as a team's starting quarterback.
      Also, only $100 million of Cousins' contract is guaranteed and it's all paid in the first two years.

  • @austinmassey7764
    @austinmassey7764 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The issue wasn’t that the took a QB, it was that they took THAT QB. McCarthy is two years younger and does not have anywhere close to the injury history that Penix does.

  • @keithjb68
    @keithjb68 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    "Penix succeeded with lesser talent..." what?!? Washington had FAR better receivers and a slightly better O-line (best in all of college football) than JJ had at Michigan. Love the channel Colin.

    • @milliworkz7069
      @milliworkz7069 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wild it’s almost like Penix played more seasons then last year… go watch his highlight his injury years. JJ going to be the next Mac Jones

    • @JonathanKonkel
      @JonathanKonkel 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@milliworkz7069- Dumbest take on here. Lol

    • @milliworkz7069
      @milliworkz7069 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JonathanKonkel awhhh did I hurt your JJ feelings. What does JJ do better than Mac Jones? Both hand the ball off well we know that👍🏻

    • @candipauline
      @candipauline 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@milliworkz7069 hand the both?

    • @milliworkz7069
      @milliworkz7069 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@candipauline ball 🏈*********. 🤙

  • @cornelllax05
    @cornelllax05 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Colin saying JJ had to carry lesser talent when Penix had Rome, Polk, and McMillan as his pass catchers lol

    • @brandonannisette6023
      @brandonannisette6023 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Jj had a better team Michigan defense crushed everyone

    • @sudoCompetence
      @sudoCompetence 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@brandonannisette6023 Washington had a WR who went #9 and an OL that won the Joe Moore award. Get outta here lmao

    • @brandonannisette6023
      @brandonannisette6023 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sudoCompetencebut yet Michigan was favored to win

    • @sudoCompetence
      @sudoCompetence 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@brandonannisette6023 by like a field goal - the spread was under 5 points lol

    • @romain8390
      @romain8390 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sudoCompetenceSo what? Look at the rest of the team.
      Michigan:
      NFL head coach
      NFL defensive coordinator
      NFL offensive scheme
      NFL defensive scheme
      NFL drafted running back
      NFL receiver Wilson
      NFL tight end
      6 starters drafted on defense in 2024.
      McCarthy had a super team. Yes, compared to a McCarthy, Penix carried FAR lesser talent.

  • @ruggednraw
    @ruggednraw 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Also worth noting: when Washington drafted RG3, they also drafted Kirk Cousins. That worked out well since RG3 got hurt.

    • @joshscharf4230
      @joshscharf4230 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      4th round pick not a top 10

    • @davidthegoat8075
      @davidthegoat8075 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@joshscharf4230 There's like 2 more starting QBs available this draft. Next year is considered a bad QB class so if Cousins is trash they secured a QB now.

    • @RockNRollGecko
      @RockNRollGecko 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@davidthegoat8075 and if Cousins plays well for 2 years and battles Penix in year 3 u got Penix with injury problems at 27 finally playing? lol its a wasted pick.

    • @quietmortgage
      @quietmortgage 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Terrible argument. Neither QB was making $50 mil.

    • @ChrisH421
      @ChrisH421 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@quietmortgagehow about Cousins is 9% of the Falcons cap this year, Alex Smith was 9% of KC cap the year they drafted Mahomes. If you think a Qb in the draft is your guy you take him when you get the chance to.

  • @jacksontran5066
    @jacksontran5066 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Shoutout to the volume guy, finally getting it right 🎉🥳🎉

    • @AsylumSaint
      @AsylumSaint 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Its still low what are you on about?

    • @thomaspellinger5368
      @thomaspellinger5368 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AsylumSaint I think he was joking b/c he thinks this is a bad take.

    • @AsylumSaint
      @AsylumSaint 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@thomaspellinger5368 Oh you mean like The Volume, the other channel with Colin. Might be, all I know is a lot of people can't hear these segments including myself.

  • @Folds2008
    @Folds2008 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Minnesota literally moved into the top 10 to get JJ, you know he was the 10th pick right?

    • @anthonythanghe4755
      @anthonythanghe4755 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They moved up one spot… not 5.

    • @JonathanKonkel
      @JonathanKonkel 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@anthonythanghe4755 - Because they didn't NEED to. The other teams made dumb moves.

    • @SodaWasDeleted
      @SodaWasDeleted 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@JonathanKonkelThey gave a bag of chips to the jets to move up one spot. Don’t die over it. 😭

    • @Izthefaithful
      @Izthefaithful 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JonathanKonkelyeah there was some dumb moves for sure

    • @brandonannisette6023
      @brandonannisette6023 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yall wanted penix

  • @BigOEntertainmentYT
    @BigOEntertainmentYT 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Colin, this is a dumb take. Jordan Love and Aaron Ridgers were at the end of the first round, not top 10. You should never spend a top 10 pick to get a backup that might play 3 to 4 years down the road.

    • @jakehutchison5761
      @jakehutchison5761 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Penix will play in year 3 Kirks deal is only 2 years.

    • @bobbyrivera2951
      @bobbyrivera2951 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakehutchison5761it’s 4 dumbnutz.

    • @chrisjames4514
      @chrisjames4514 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jakehutchison5761so you’re admitting that you’re paying Cousins 100 million dollars to be a two year rental?? Yikes

    • @jakehutchison5761
      @jakehutchison5761 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@chrisjames4514 Why? They aren't paying anybody else nobody that needs a big deal will be up in the next 2 years outside of AJ Terrell and they have plenty of cap space for that. They have been a game out of the playoffs 2 years in a row with the worst QB situation in the league over the past 2 years. They make the playoffs with Kirk get experience have time to build the roster and really be ready for a real run when Penix is staring in 2 years.

    • @colebendoggettyounger2610
      @colebendoggettyounger2610 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@chrisjames4514 He's right. He got 2 yrs of guaranteed money. Pennix can learn our from Cousins and then the falcons can move off that Cousins contract and have that cheap rookie deal Pennix got..it's perfect.

  • @Durag__bandit98
    @Durag__bandit98 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Idc wat these shows say that was a bad pick

  • @UnconventionalSpark
    @UnconventionalSpark 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The pick wasn’t the problem. The major problem is paying Kirk Cousins all that money. That means Atlanta can’t sign or keep key playmakers elsewhere.

    • @jakehutchison5761
      @jakehutchison5761 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The Falcons have PLENTY of cap space they are only playing 6 players real money. Kirks deal is done in 2 years when guys need to be paid.

    • @brandonannisette6023
      @brandonannisette6023 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Baker mayfield got pay over 100 million the qb market in the NFL is like the used car market during the pandemic

    • @historybuff1483
      @historybuff1483 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And they passed up their only opportunity at pick 8 to go get someone to help their team win now

    • @eugenedenbrook322
      @eugenedenbrook322 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Untrue. They pay KirkCo more soon, less later. That's the time they'll have to stay paying people, and Penix will still be on a rookie deal.

  • @DrSneakers
    @DrSneakers 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did he just call Yachts and Bentleys great assets?

  • @chandleredgington5159
    @chandleredgington5159 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Keeping receipts on everything cowherd says about McCarthy.

    • @austinhalvorson838
      @austinhalvorson838 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Colin is a idiot, rare that he’s right

    • @SirPerfectful
      @SirPerfectful 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      me too he's kinda annoying with it, even after the talks with Joel Klatt

    • @A_r78
      @A_r78 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      McCarthy is a handoff merchant bro

    • @_jse123
      @_jse123 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@A_r78 Sure was throwing bombs and dimes in columbus in 2022

    • @A_r78
      @A_r78 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_jse123 yeah against a weak ahh defense

  • @vincechan455
    @vincechan455 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I don't always agree with Cowherd, but he's 100% right on this. The Falcons made a great pick. If Cousins gets hurt, the season is not lost. Penix can step in and play. That's also why I think other teams need to go out and grab Sam Hartman. That Wake Forest/Notre Dame kid has Joe Montana ability. You heard it first.

    • @matthunter4868
      @matthunter4868 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The Penix pick was correct, it's the Cousins contract is what's the headscratcher.
      The Falcons FO basically set $150 million of guaranteed 💵 on 🔥 last night.

    • @michaeljohnson7945
      @michaeljohnson7945 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@matthunter4868 A veteran, above-average starting quarterback who has played at an occasional Pro Bowl level is going to cost $45 million per year in today's NFL. There is a major difference between having Kirk Cousins as a team's starting quarterback vs. having spare parts such as Desmond Ridder, Taylor Heinicke and Marcus Mariota as a team's starting quarterback.
      Also, only $100 million of Cousins' contract is guaranteed and it's all paid in the first two years.

  • @emeraldmomme
    @emeraldmomme 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Exactly! Atlanta got a great QB.

  • @ryanoconnell2894
    @ryanoconnell2894 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t get how this guy still has a show. I have a couple buddies that occasionally try watching it too and every time we all give him another shot we regret it

  • @antonioatkinson11
    @antonioatkinson11 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    All good points Colin but I think you failed to realize that there was no need to sign cousins to a $100 million contract when you could’ve just signed a low tier quarterback for one or two years if you’re gonna draft Michael Penix at 8

    • @PeterDahu
      @PeterDahu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah he ignores the obvious.

    • @sprayer97
      @sprayer97 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PeterDahu you want your young qb to learn from a true pro thats been in the league and knows how to have sustained success and not some 3rd tier back up qb... and thats pretty obvious

    • @xBlackOsox
      @xBlackOsox 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sprayer97who might be trash. Atleast kirk has good film
      They say NFL speed alittle faster than college

    • @richedinero
      @richedinero 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We want to win now nd make use of our young talented core on offense…not with a sorry a qb who cant win,Thats why we payed Kirk 100 mill …Its a Win now or later situation for Falcons

    • @PeterDahu
      @PeterDahu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @sprayer97 You want your "True Pro" to not cost 15% of your cap and not even tell him your plans. The Falcons are a mess.

  • @baits8420
    @baits8420 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    falcons might even get double digit sacks next year if they are lucky

  • @kendallcampbell8539
    @kendallcampbell8539 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Colin Fantastic take! Excellent

  • @robertcolacino7310
    @robertcolacino7310 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a Viking fan I’m threw the roof with MCCarthy, thru
    The first 5 rounds the league said “ NAH
    TO BRADY “ how’d that turn out Colin

  • @gpeng05
    @gpeng05 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Disagree - they are devoting something like 15% of their cap space this season alone, and a ton more next year, to a single position out of 22. That doesn't mean it won't work out, but the probabilities, ie Moneyball, are not in their favor. The cap limitation (and dead money in the future) is the part that people need to be talking about here.

    • @jakehutchison5761
      @jakehutchison5761 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Falcons arent paying anybody right now. Kirks deal is up in 2 years. The only contract they need to sign in the next 2 years is AJ Terrell and thats it.

  • @ChowDownDetroit
    @ChowDownDetroit 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No one hates JJ McCarthy as much as Colin.

  • @kimberlymiller3438
    @kimberlymiller3438 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Life-long Falcons fan here, and this is the best analogy!!! Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU for braking it down. The last 3 years with our QBs were atrocious and embarrassing. Now we have an insurance plan in place to take care of our team for years to come. I fully trust GM Terry and Coach Raheem and the process...LET'S GO FALCONS!!!

  • @jamesmitchell2704
    @jamesmitchell2704 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Cousins is mercenary. You get what you give.

  • @quietmortgage
    @quietmortgage 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The move makes no sense from a financial standpoint because signing Kirk means you're in win now mode and you need impact players to make up for his salary. Basically, the Falcons are telling you they're building the team for 3 years from now.

    • @jakehutchison5761
      @jakehutchison5761 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Falcons have PLENTY of cap space they are only paying 6 guys right now. Kirks deal is up in 2 years when Pitts needs his contract

    • @SJStevens8723
      @SJStevens8723 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Their bright idea is to win now and in the future lol. With Kirk, they hope to win enough to make the playoffs and obviously lose. Then when that little era ends, seamlessly move into the Penix era and do some real hardcore winning.

  • @wDoucheCanoe
    @wDoucheCanoe 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Right but the difference between this and the Favre, Rodger’s, Alex Smith situation is that those QBs were already on the team and under contract, the Falcons JUST signed Kirk to a massive contract

  • @jayhope6866
    @jayhope6866 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Nobody was willing to move into the top 10 for McCarthy"
    With the 10th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft:

    • @3500BP
      @3500BP 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!! I noticed that idiocy as well.

  • @Other_Robots
    @Other_Robots 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Giants skipped on a good QB draft class to probably looking for one next year in a bad class again like when they got daniel jones

    • @djangorestraind596
      @djangorestraind596 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They got nabers they're fine

    • @Nathan-qz3mg
      @Nathan-qz3mg 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is Shedeur Sanders next year

  • @B.Piercesports
    @B.Piercesports 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Did yal see pennix vs a great college defense in the natuonal championship game? I did and he was scared to death to throw the ball.

    • @ubadman1
      @ubadman1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You dont rememeber how his starting running back was out and his line overwhelmed? Of course you dont

    • @fivehundrediq5212
      @fivehundrediq5212 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ubadman1That’s what great defenses do

    • @SirPerfectful
      @SirPerfectful 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ubadman1 His oline won the award UofM's oline usually wins. Speaking as a UofM alum.

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you see CJ stroud in 2 games vs Michigan? You same clowns said he wouldn’t be good either

    • @B.Piercesports
      @B.Piercesports 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @truthbearer7891 yeah in 22 it was close til the don broke off a 7t and 8t yard touchdown in thr 4th in 21 we were all over him and Hassan scored 5 tds

  • @robertbartelt6032
    @robertbartelt6032 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The other thing I think the Falcons were looking at was the success rate on rookie QBs sent out there to the wolves. Everyone looks at CJ Stroud and they don't see him as the exception not the rule.

  • @realgooddoty9395
    @realgooddoty9395 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You don’t sign a quarterback to that much money if you’re worried about his health.

  • @SpidermanandJeny
    @SpidermanandJeny 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    This is such a dumb take. You don't sign someone to a massive contract and then take his replacement that's already older has huge bust potential.

    • @nelsonshut6840
      @nelsonshut6840 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its a smart move Cousins coming off an achilles injury which is a serious career altering injury. By drafting Penix you have insurance for the future

    • @SpidermanandJeny
      @SpidermanandJeny 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@nelsonshut6840 if you're THAT worried you don't sign the guy. It's not like Cousins has an absolutely amazing history of winning much at all.

    • @wack8589
      @wack8589 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​What is Penix coming off? @@nelsonshut6840

    • @damianpresha9833
      @damianpresha9833 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SpidermanandJeny Y'all really drink this QB juice teams won Superbowls and big games.

    • @DoloGrip
      @DoloGrip 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lmao it’s a good pick. Cousins is 35 and he hasn’t done anything in the playoffs.

  • @arkangelarkangel1302
    @arkangelarkangel1302 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    To be fair, Minnesota and New England showed their cards to Harbaugh when they said are you trading Herbert, and they got laughed at and Chargers hung up the phone on them.

    • @joshuawilliams2447
      @joshuawilliams2447 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Idc about Herbert the chargers aren’t getting anywhere bro they picked a oline man over a wr 🤣🤣

    • @corey2232
      @corey2232 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@joshuawilliams2447 So they were smart? Teams that invest in OL elevate their entire offensive unit & allow all players to benefit.
      The Chiefs did the same thing, and it allowed them to win SBs despite worse & worse production from the WR corps.

    • @usa91787
      @usa91787 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow. How did you get on that call?
      You must be pretty special.
      Because to know what was said and done in those conversations can only be known if you were there, or knew someone who was and they told you.
      Hard to believe they just hung up. And after laughing at an inquiry.
      You might do that but grown ups and professionals don't.
      I know you're just another dipsh;t trying to act to like you know something but you don't.

    • @limegreensharpays
      @limegreensharpays 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They didn’t laugh, the Vikings and patriots laughed because the chargers ask for way too much and THEY hung up lol

    • @farriskhan2352
      @farriskhan2352 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joshuawilliams2447OLINEMEN are weapons. Two best OLINES made it to the championship game last year.

  • @aidanmurphy8286
    @aidanmurphy8286 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Who’s gonna tell Colin that the Vikings did indeed trade into the top 10 to take JJ McCarthy

  • @andresbarajas5851
    @andresbarajas5851 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cousins was a bridge QB to begin with, esp after Achillies surgery and given his record when it matters....this is actually a genius move to do it now IF you love Penix, which it looks like they did.

  • @digitalplainsmedia9466
    @digitalplainsmedia9466 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I have a gut feeling that his McCarthy take will end up being on his Mount Rushmore of heel-turns about 5 years from now😂😂

  • @anaybasu9125
    @anaybasu9125 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Interesting how all the defensive coaches (pierce, Morris, MacDonald) apparently wanted penix but oconnel and Payton wanted McCarthy

    • @DWoodsII
      @DWoodsII 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We’ll see who has the better career. I have my money on Penix.

    • @PeterDahu
      @PeterDahu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shh...don't tell Colin that his precious offensive coaches aren't as smart as he thinks.

    • @sprayer97
      @sprayer97 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@PeterDahu thats the reason offensive hc's are usually not involved in the playoffs or even superbowl. look at Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Matt LeFleur, Sean McVay, Zac Taylor... man i wish these boys would finally have success against all the dominating defensive coaches like Tomlin, Harbaugh and McDermott...

    • @djangorestraind596
      @djangorestraind596 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@DWoodsII your money is on a guy who won't see his first nfl start until he's 28? Over a 21 year old qb with tons of potential going to the best situation of any of the rookie qbs? (Besides caleb) poor way to spend your money imo

    • @djangorestraind596
      @djangorestraind596 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@sprayer97lol owned him

  • @stevencuster3702
    @stevencuster3702 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Colin, when the Vikings traded for Dobbs, they did so because, at the time, Hall was the only uninjured QB on the depth chart--Mullens wasn’t available for the Falcons game due to injury. So, they needed to trade for Dobbs to have a backup to what was their third-string QB.

    • @3500BP
      @3500BP 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He doesn’t care about those details! That doesn’t make headlines!

  • @bmanpsufan5722
    @bmanpsufan5722 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Preach it Colin!
    Rise up

  • @shanechristopherson7582
    @shanechristopherson7582 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The back up for vikimgs got hurt in practice lol forgot about that collin
    Thats why they had to trade for dobbs

    • @richardlug6139
      @richardlug6139 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They should have just picked up Wentz instead of trading there draft choice or they should have traded for Trey Lance like the cowboys did.

  • @wallsthesellout4833
    @wallsthesellout4833 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Colin you gotta learn how the cap works

  • @remmer3380
    @remmer3380 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Saying that Penix had to carry "lesser talent" is just objectively wrong. We watched it play out over the last 3 days. Penix's targets: 2 drafted in the top 40, and another in the top 100, plus his BOTH tackles went in rounds 1 and 2 respectively. 10 PLAYERS DRAFTED. Only 3 of those outside of the top 100.
    JJs top target went round 3... Just a few picks before Penix's WR3 went off the board. (Yes. I know the TE Loveland will be a high pick next year) 11 players from that team drafted. MOST on the defensive side of the ball. Roman, Corum and Zinter were the highest offensive picks besides JJ, all in round 3.

  • @tmat2024
    @tmat2024 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Atlanta Falcons have found a way to become newsworthy. The Atlanta Falcons.

  • @Buggsiess
    @Buggsiess 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The fact that Colin didn’t have penix to the Falcons in his mock draft tells you all you need to know about his analysis.
    Edit: People really don’t get sarcasm

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I mean most people didn't, it didn't exactly fit what's considered 'conventional'

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a Bears fan, thank you Atlanta for not trading out of 8. Helped us get Odunze :) My bias aside, I was initially baffled at what the Falcons were doing but the more I think about it, the saying is " The best time to draft a qb is when you don't need one."

  • @johnnyvansguard869
    @johnnyvansguard869 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That’s where Colin fail to comprehend. He looking it just as the owner. He not thinking about what his is gonna do to the locker room

  • @javieeg15
    @javieeg15 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He doesn't like JJ McCarthy but says he will succeed , so if he succeeds he can come back and say " I told you he would succeed" 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @isaacdunaway7149
    @isaacdunaway7149 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The problem is Penix is going to be 24 when the season starts. There's a solid chance he'll be 26 or 27 before he's the starter

    • @ZephraFPS
      @ZephraFPS 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Imagine he then is one of the top QB’s in the league for 10 years. Idk why people act like he’s gonna be geriatric at 26 lmfao

    • @Pogibearx
      @Pogibearx 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ZephraFPSright! QBs are playing to nearly 40 now and he’s turning 24 this next month. Getting 5-10 years out of a great QB is a big win no matter how you slice it.

    • @JoeMiles-xs1wk
      @JoeMiles-xs1wk 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Age isn't a problem for QBs, damage is...

    • @joshscharf4230
      @joshscharf4230 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Pogibearx Penix has had 4 season ending injuries what if he isn't good in 2-3 years

    • @jjbdbd8279
      @jjbdbd8279 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What if Kirk gets hurt

  • @ClammyDrew
    @ClammyDrew 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Couldn't agree more with this take.

    • @Andrew_M_Ward
      @Andrew_M_Ward 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Penix sitting behind a pro like Cousins is fantastic - so good for Penix - I think this was an absolute gold standard pick

  • @dustinwilson1059
    @dustinwilson1059 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If anything, Minnesota played their cards perfect. They liked JJ, and it will work, and they kept their 2nd number 1 this year. And they have their first round next year. Why give up everything when you don’t have to? JJ will work, and it could work out big. He is a winner.

  • @jaysavage1957
    @jaysavage1957 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “You know who teams DIDNT move up to get? The guy the Vikings moved up to get!”

    • @3500BP
      @3500BP 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Total idiot. I noticed that too. Couldn’t take any more points seriously after hearing that.

  • @herrmark92
    @herrmark92 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Some of your points are valid but I dont think you can make the argument that Cousins might get injured again, considering Penix has had 4 season ending injuries, including tearing the same ACL twice. Cousins is 36 and more durable than Penix is

  • @verlongates2279
    @verlongates2279 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Was just about to leave thinking there was nothing noteworthy being said here when Colin says that Penix will be 'the best backup in the league?' Maybe. Maybe not. But to state it like it's a fact is just bizarre.

  • @rowdy831
    @rowdy831 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The league has shown it can't pick a QB and Harbaugh knows what he is talking about. I like Herd but how can he even say JJ had better targets than Penix at Washington?

  • @GJones247
    @GJones247 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you don't plan on playing bad for the next few years, you won't be able to land a great QB. This is a smart move. Every great team drafts a QB when the team has a good QB.
    Look at the teams who dont draft a good QB when they are good, where are they now? Patriots, Giants, Raiders, Saints, Washington, and list goes on.

  • @mikec3756
    @mikec3756 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kirk Cousins was the insurance policy for RGIII.

  • @user-uu6fy4di9l
    @user-uu6fy4di9l 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks grandpa collin. this really helped clarify that atlanta pick

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem wasn't the Penix pick, it was the Cousin's contract before the Penix pick.

  • @curtsiekert
    @curtsiekert 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love how everyone defends the Penix pick by knocking on Cousins. They say Atlanta was smart. Lol.

  • @ikiruyamamoto1050
    @ikiruyamamoto1050 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love Colin, always a passionate opinion...even when often wrong. First, Penix isn't ANYTHING but a LOTTERY TICKET until he plays in multiple NFL games. So Colin's insurance idea is specious. Second, absent a Cousins injury, Pennix will be 27-28 BEFORE he sees the field....and Pennix has an injury history. Third, the Rogers/Love situation is instructive, but not for the reasons Colin thinks. The Packers kept pissing away SUPER BOWL chances when they had a HOF/MVP type QB. It is criminal Rodgers has only been to one Super Bowl. But, that's what happens when they only use 2 out of 14 first round picks on offense (2 tackles)...and only one pans out (Bulaga). When you have a good-great QB you give him all the weapons and protections you can. Finally, the OWNER is turning 82 this season....does he want some happiness and glory of a Super Bowl before he dies? Or does he just want his team to have a CHANCE to be good when he's dead?

  • @richardjohnson8709
    @richardjohnson8709 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So you think because Cousin's is coming off a major injury it was a good idea to draft a QB with an extensive injury history?

  • @positivepatrick2009
    @positivepatrick2009 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for talking me off the ledge. It makes sense to me now. Life long Falcons fan.

  • @tonysalsa9215
    @tonysalsa9215 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Masterclass Colin

  • @GG-mb9rr
    @GG-mb9rr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1 year when Cousins has $90M guaranteed?
    He’s there for at least two years.

  • @anthonymason7652
    @anthonymason7652 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok Colin just convinced me to be happy with my team's draft pick. I was highly upset at the time they drafted Penix but it makes a lot of sense now actually.

  • @gamblingguru2235
    @gamblingguru2235 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ur wrong Colin… falcons could just draft a QB next year if Cousins doesn’t work why u want a qb sit for 4 years

  • @nathanoberg4389
    @nathanoberg4389 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nobody was willing to move up to take JJ... except the vikings who moved up to take JJ...

  • @stevencuster3702
    @stevencuster3702 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If the Falcons were so concerned about Cousins’ longevity, then why sign him?

    • @michaeljohnson7945
      @michaeljohnson7945 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kirk Cousins will be 36 at the start of the 2024 season. Given that the majority of quarterbacks are backups or out of the league at 34, Cousins already is ahead of the curve. You can't expect him to be good at age 38, much less 40.

  • @MondtsterChefs
    @MondtsterChefs 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nobody was willing to move into the top ten for the traded for tenth overall pick!

  • @TDogg-yw3ww
    @TDogg-yw3ww 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem wasn’t drafting Penix, it was signing Kirk to that ridiculous contract.

  • @austinhalvorson838
    @austinhalvorson838 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Taking penix over McCarthy is so stupid, but then again they paid 180 million for Kirk 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jayt5779
    @jayt5779 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Colin doubling down on his horrible Penix take lol

  • @rontaanderson9667
    @rontaanderson9667 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    preach💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 thank you

  • @robertcolacino7310
    @robertcolacino7310 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That picture of Kirk wearing the Braves paraphernalia is now absolutely hilarious

  • @gopackgo1412
    @gopackgo1412 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Uncle Colin with the different POV - love it

  • @j.w.greenbaum7809
    @j.w.greenbaum7809 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Colin you know more than McCarthy’s coaches, teammates, fans who have been watching UM football for years….you will eat your words!

  • @770WT
    @770WT 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Flight of the Penix

  • @Jermz_Sticky91
    @Jermz_Sticky91 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont agree with almost anything Cowherd said in this segment, but 66 QBs started last year, is actually wild

  • @shadow6024
    @shadow6024 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “No one would move into the top 10 for McCarthy” after saying Vikings traded to get him at tenth💀💀

    • @3500BP
      @3500BP 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cause he’s a stupid head.

  • @nicklacasella5585
    @nicklacasella5585 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Herd speaking facts while everyone else is freaking out.

  • @tracyenglish9998
    @tracyenglish9998 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The problem with this pick is, you will have to have two different offensive schemes. 1 for Cousins and another for Penix! Not the best idea!

  • @eugenedenbrook322
    @eugenedenbrook322 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually agree with this take. Don't be short-sighted. We could certainly be proved wrong, but right now I like it.

  • @Mr_Fairdale
    @Mr_Fairdale 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's not about Penix. It's about where they drafted him.

  • @joekabooki
    @joekabooki 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ok there’s so much wrong with this analysis. The falcons weren’t gonna draft a “linebacker” at 8. They desperately needed an edge rusher and they had their pick of any of them at 8. Yeah a good backup is great, but at 8 that’s a bit rich for a backup.

  • @gregtynan6761
    @gregtynan6761 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First video of the herd I’ve watched in a while. Clearly it’s time to re subscribe and watch!

  • @OPSteel97
    @OPSteel97 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with your take on this 100%

  • @mattyhillis
    @mattyhillis 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If your team building strategy is based off the potential of your qb getting injured, you probably shouldn't have paid him £100m guaranteed!

  • @MegaMyown
    @MegaMyown 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uncle Colin just complimented every listener by calling us all great assets 🥹🥲😆😂