Why Dan Orlovsky Did a 180 on the Falcons Drafting Michael Penix Jr. | The Rich Eisen Show

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  • ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky tells Rich Eisen why he was initially “completely perplexed” by the Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr but later changed his mind about the pick.
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  • @sirtavion20
    @sirtavion20 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +146

    This pick makes sense. The problem was paying an injured 36 year old QB all this money

    • @jessepena5847
      @jessepena5847 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Coming off a serious injury.

    • @WirHyperboreer
      @WirHyperboreer 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      It would probably have been the better move to draft Penix at 8 then get Cousins for this contract. But you can't do both.

    • @davidwillis8623
      @davidwillis8623 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The bigger issue besides paying Cousins would be to fail to plan for his inevitable departure

    • @numbskulI
      @numbskulI 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      All that tampering, just to draft a QB at 8. Who did Arthur Blank think was scrambling to sign an injured Kirk Cousins?

    • @sonsoftexas
      @sonsoftexas 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The part I don’t get is you have to take the combination. Cousin’s will start for at least two years because of the guaranteed money on the contract. So lets say he only starts two. Then you have 3 years to decide on penix for his rookie deal that he will be 26 before he starts on and 29 before the rookie deal is up. The 4 and 5 year contracts overlapping totally screws this up
      This is a failure from the gm from a cap and roster management decision at the least. Either cousins works out and you forefit the benefit of penix on a rookie deal or penix works out and you forefit the benefits of the rookie deal in dead money to cousins. Either way the roster and cap situation loses….

  • @shawnhenderson2091
    @shawnhenderson2091 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    As someone who watched Penix play every week for the last 2 years, have fun with that controversy in Atlanta when he shows up and outplays Cousins in practice and training camp

    • @draneym2003
      @draneym2003 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Shouldn't take much....

    • @SupeDefy
      @SupeDefy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      yup. You know what's going to happen in spring practice: MPJ will start dropping those easy to catch tight spiral 50 yard handoff passes to the receivers and the offensive players will be sold.

    • @Keith_No_Sweat
      @Keith_No_Sweat 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@SupeDefyMPJ???

    • @SupeDefy
      @SupeDefy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@Keith_No_Sweat Mike Penix Jr. I mean all Washington fans know the initials. ATL fans will too. 👍

    • @davidadamsmusic
      @davidadamsmusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly my thoughts. Hella expensive watching Cousins sit late next season.

  • @hudsonpowers
    @hudsonpowers 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    As a falcons fan it is growing on me. Love the player , pick is growing

    • @deesus1085
      @deesus1085 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You have no choice. 😂

    • @Alexander-lc7dx
      @Alexander-lc7dx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But is the expectation he’ll be the starter in 2/3 years?

  • @nicoalexander774
    @nicoalexander774 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    As a Niners fan, it feels like Arthur Blank is doing what Jerry Jones refuses to do: go all in and try anything to win! If Kirk doesn’t work, this looks like a really nice backup plan to have! ❤

    • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
      @Frosty_tha_Snowman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's not what all in is supposed to mean 😅 I take it as, take the team we have, spend as much money as we can, and make the team as good as possible for one or 2 years.. not sign 2 QB's that don't compliment each other in any way

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Frosty_tha_Snowman and NOT have #8 overall on the field making impact plays.

    • @jman7826
      @jman7826 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This is more like hedging your bets than going all in

    • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
      @Frosty_tha_Snowman 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Going all in would have been: spending $ on free agents for weapons to go with your new QB, Michael Penix, and using your other draft picks to compliment him as well - or, using all your draft picks to get weapons for Kirk Cousins, and seeing what kind of winning season you can put together during his time in Atlanta - you CANNOT DO BOTH, and say you're "going all in" that's the opposite lol. That's having one foot in, and one foot out.

    • @Alexander-lc7dx
      @Alexander-lc7dx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It seemed like Arthur wasn’t aware of the pick until after it was called in. Which is crazy if true 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @user-lx7bz1tu3m
    @user-lx7bz1tu3m 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    “we won’t be picking this high again for a while” - That’s what Scott Fitterer said to justify trading up for Bryce Young . Then he went 2-15 and got fired.

    • @Sportstalk404
      @Sportstalk404 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Don’t compare my team with the panthers falcons last year was a QB away from making a playoff run. Panthers have nothing over there.

    • @gregphipps7082
      @gregphipps7082 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Carolina was terrible to begin with. Atl was considered a playoff team before the draft.

    • @dannycummings3095
      @dannycummings3095 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, Panthers have more problems than most teams; to blame it all on the QB pick, yah not the same scenario@@Sportstalk404

    • @2chin4u
      @2chin4u 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @Sportstalk404 The panthers were 7-10 the year Scott Fitterer said that. Last year the Falcons were 7-10.

    • @MikeLarry910
      @MikeLarry910 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@2chin4uand they gave away their best player on offense in a trade and left Bryce young with old Adam theilen as WR1 and the worst oline in the NFL. 😂

  • @burn8175
    @burn8175 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    People really acting slow about this like the 180 came out their paycheck. It’s common sense, Kirk is getting paid to ball out for two years and help develop Penix to lead the team. After two years Kirk contract will be reconstructed. After that his main concern is to ride out into retirement. The best QBs in the game sat behind great vet QBs for a few years until they were ready.

  • @bxdon122
    @bxdon122 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This situation feels eerily similar to the Mahomes-Cheifs draft situation and the uproar that caused.

  • @NCSKOLMAN15
    @NCSKOLMAN15 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    He literally turned around and ran out of his own end zone before. 180 is kinda his thing

  • @schroedericeman7200
    @schroedericeman7200 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    So if its so great to get Penix, why tamper to pay a 36 year old with a repaired achilles with barely any playoff wins 100 million dollars guaranteed?

    • @terrencenewman5580
      @terrencenewman5580 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Because they don’t have a crystal ball and can see into the future. You can’t make your free agency decisions based off what you might do in the draft because you don’t know how the draft will play out and if you’ll be able to get the guy your want. The freak out over this pick has been so overblown.

    • @chitown1057
      @chitown1057 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@terrencenewman5580do you realize he won’t start until he’s 27 and has had 4 straight seasons ended by injury these are just facts

    • @FreshlySnipes
      @FreshlySnipes 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@chitown1057he will start next year. He ain’t waiting till he’s 27 lmao

    • @terrencenewman5580
      @terrencenewman5580 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@chitown1057 his last major injury was THREE YEARS AGO! He has played two straight seasons with no injury issues and balled out both season. It’s football, everyone gets hurt eventually! So he won’t start till he’s 27? Ok. Kirk Cousins is in his late 30’s and gonna be their starter this year. If Michael starts at 27 and has a career as long as Kirk Cousins then he’ll be a quality starter in the NFL for a DECADE! Y’all are acting like late 20s early 30’s isn’t a professional QBs athletic prime.

    • @thedawghouse581
      @thedawghouse581 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      100 million guaranteed. If Cousins starts 3 season it's still expensive. If he starts 2 seasons it crazy expensive. If he starts only 1 year or less...ATL is dumb.

  • @FreshlySnipes
    @FreshlySnipes 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    First off, Penix is a BEAST.
    Second, they HAD to sign Kirk. They couldn’t go into a season banking on the fact that their QB would be there in the draft.

    • @losinfinite
      @losinfinite 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly Hindsight

  • @edutainme7265
    @edutainme7265 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Truth is, quarterbacks that sit do better, especially when they're behind someone good, as Kirk is. I think people are overreacting to this. Love Dan - yet again, he makes that easy to understand.

    • @Chadillac-xq7xk
      @Chadillac-xq7xk 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Facts

    • @briannettles669
      @briannettles669 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The difference is Penix is a 24-year-old quarterback, not a 20-year-old quarterback. Penix is experienced and supposedly ready to start now. Penix is quickly approaching the prime of his career and you will be wasting some of his peak seasons sitting on the bench!

    • @blickpantheraj9029
      @blickpantheraj9029 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@briannettles669wrong, QBs are playing into their late 30s n 40s. Flacco and Brady. I’m concerned a bit about his injuries but he played 2 seasons in a division full of dogs and came out healthy so.

    • @damianpresha9833
      @damianpresha9833 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The problem is you left a immediate difference maker in Rome for a guy you going to sit on the bench at least 8-10 games.

    • @jack90054
      @jack90054 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brady was a complete outlier. Most QBs (even hall of fame caliber guys) aren’t the same post 35.
      In fact, the recent “old QB switching teams for a new life” moves have only really worked with Brady.
      Rivers crashed and burned. Matt Ryan crashed and burned. Rodgers is TBD, but first season was a wash. Russell Wilson crashed and burned.

  • @ZalexMusic
    @ZalexMusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Cousins is a good move. Penix is a good move. Both together is malpractice.

    • @stevekaufmann8109
      @stevekaufmann8109 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Nope you can't ever have enough qb depth it's the most important position in sports, well probably goalie considering you can't even play hockey or soccer without one but anyways the falcons got a young talented quarterback that's always a good thing.

    • @ZalexMusic
      @ZalexMusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevekaufmann8109 define: cope

    • @TruStatementNetwork
      @TruStatementNetwork 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevekaufmann8109 ever heard of the saying in football if you have more than 1 qb you have none?

    • @stevekaufmann8109
      @stevekaufmann8109 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TruStatementNetwork That statement is wrong now we're in a different nfl it's a qb league now.

    • @ZalexMusic
      @ZalexMusic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevekaufmann8109 that statement is literally about a qb league lmao

  • @TFT_guy
    @TFT_guy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I been understanding why they did drafted Penix … I just needed a tv guy to confirm for everyone why 😂

  • @AW-cu5vr
    @AW-cu5vr 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Atlanta has capital in the most important position in the league.
    If it doesn't work out with cousins they can trade him comfortably. So no worries about contract. If he play well, then you have a young QB to deal in a QB hungry market.
    I like this move. But mostly because Penix is a good pick. The downside is Cousins no longer being all in.

    • @petmilo1
      @petmilo1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They can’t trade him “comfortably”, he has a no trade clause, and the dead cap money will be astoundingly high if they do…

    • @bradleymaravalli2851
      @bradleymaravalli2851 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@petmilo1 the Falcons would save $2.5 million by trading Cousins pre-June 1, 2025. So there is a reasonable way to move on.

  • @808bboarder
    @808bboarder 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love the Pick. Most Falcons fans hated it but this is the most important position in Sports. I love that Falcons went from no QB to a Veteran Top 10 QB and a new young prospect

    • @noah.conley
      @noah.conley 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kirk ain’t not top 10 QB as a MSU fan and Lions fan lol… yes he puts up stats but he doesn’t win big games…

  • @bobthecpaontheloose4141
    @bobthecpaontheloose4141 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Only time will tell but this reminds me of a typical business model study where the company has resently spent a significant amount on a machine and shortly is faced with the realization that a newer machine that just came out that is significanly more productive and can increase their profits by a significan amount but the recently acquired machine works perfectly well - what do you do? You look at the bottom line and if all the facts are correct, you replace the machine with the newer inovation and sell this less effecient machine to the highest bidder, even at a loss if this doesn't negatively affect the bottom line analysis. In Atlanta's eyes, Penix represents the more productive machine. This effectively makes Cousin a bridge QB, not what he was banking on.

    • @davidadamsmusic
      @davidadamsmusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. The 2010 Ford Mustang is a great car but now they have a 2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E. Why keep it in the garage for 3 years?

    • @user-en9qd5nx8w
      @user-en9qd5nx8w 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like the analogy, but in the Falcons case, you don't yet know if the newer machine really is better. You know it's newer, although it's broken down a few times and has been repaired, but lately it's been working well. You don't yet know if it can run at high speed and take a stressful load. You certainly hope it can, but until you actually run it at full production, you're just hoping.

  • @masterofmagic99
    @masterofmagic99 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think it just comes down to the fact that Atlanta assumed penix wouldn't fall to them so they went for cousins, but realistically feel like cousins is on a must win contract for the next two years otherwise penix will be stepping in to the starting position

  • @jasonsmouse6570
    @jasonsmouse6570 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I'm old school. I like that Pennix will have to sit and learn for a while.

    • @yurp7643
      @yurp7643 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly , dudes back then was coming into the league at 23 / 24

  • @green-user8348
    @green-user8348 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I agree now that I have listened to the argument. They probably will not be this high up on the draft board again...here was a QB they love, and Kirk has now suffered a major injury. The only thing I wonder about is Penix sitting out for two years, that seems like a lot...but then again, Aaron Rodgers (the nutter) did it too.

  • @NMDmovies
    @NMDmovies 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This will split the locker and the fanbase will be calling for pennix like crazy.

    • @jefflittle3685
      @jefflittle3685 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not sure about the locker but without a doubt Cousins has to ball out or the fan base will be split .

    • @SupeDefy
      @SupeDefy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can see in spring practice Penix dropping perfect back shoulder throws and 50 yard bombs with easy-to-catch tight spiral. Offensive players will undoubtedly be watching and will be sold.

    • @erikmcneal6179
      @erikmcneal6179 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jefflittle3685I think Cousins should then ..... Do his job.... And ball out ... Right?

    • @jefflittle3685
      @jefflittle3685 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@erikmcneal6179 no doubt. At 1st I hated the pick and was all caught up in drafting an edge. After some time to think and hear experts I’m on board but not so sold on Penix sitting 3 years. Cousins had better be so good it would be insane to go to Penix. I like Penix character more than Cousins. Sure Cousins is a good guy but Penix comes across like he’d be more of a team player and fits into Atlanta better. Just my opinion

  • @thirdplace3973
    @thirdplace3973 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Everybody gaslighting TF out of everyone today. 🤣

  • @slowhand256
    @slowhand256 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At the end of the day it's a business, I didn't like the pick at first, but I get it now. " If you fail to plan ,you plan to fail"

  • @matriculatethefootball
    @matriculatethefootball 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They won 7 games with the old head coach. Didn't we just watch a 7 win team fire their coach, hire a new coach, fire him in his first year after winning 2 games. What you did with your last coach means nothing. It's a whole new regime now

  • @raysupllc
    @raysupllc 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is that the guy from Always Sunny?

    • @KingDamon09
      @KingDamon09 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

  • @KURUZU43
    @KURUZU43 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If Kirk Cousins gets hurt then what? People who are hating on this pick are just pissed that it screwed up their draft boards! As Falcon fans, we have to get over it.

  • @kyledavis635
    @kyledavis635 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Either Penix is an insurance policy (dumb) or the Falcons drafted him to sit for 3-4 years (really dumb). In either case you don't spend the #8 pick in the draft like this!!!

  • @rickycurley159
    @rickycurley159 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I understand why they picked HIM, i dont understand why they DIDNT pick a pass rusher. But now seeing Orlovsky agree with me makes me not feel so good about it 😂

  • @xG1ZZM0x
    @xG1ZZM0x 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Everyone will eat crow. It's cool when other team do it, it's a problem when Atlanta does it.

  • @sorrymane
    @sorrymane 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    whats frustrating is we wont be able to see him tear up the league

  • @mcline50
    @mcline50 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There’s a video of Kirk cousins saying he would retire at every team he played lol

  • @corvus2512
    @corvus2512 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a feeling that Penix is very quickly going to be better than Cousins, it would be wild if they switched to Penix THIS season

  • @dennis2782
    @dennis2782 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn Kirk or Mr. MONEY Get a another contract???? You GO Kirk Love it!!

  • @user-ox8ud9ys9m
    @user-ox8ud9ys9m 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sounds like Falcons got toooo much money but Penix is best qb in draft and better than some starters in nfl

  • @rip8564
    @rip8564 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Morris and Fontenot spelled it out for all you “experts” at the press conference. They want to win NOW. And they will with Cousins. But they knew they would not be in this prime spot again so they invested in their QB future.

    • @briannettles669
      @briannettles669 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is the same team that made a dumb choice of picking a tight end ahead of Jamarr Chase and picked a running back they did not need in the top ten when no competent NFL team drafts a running back in the top ten. Competent NFL front offices draft tight ends and running backs in the second and third rounds. They do not waste top-ten picks on tight ends and running backs. Now they used a top-ten pick on a backup quarterback! I have zero confidence that the Falcon's "brain trust" has any clue how to build a Super Bowl-contending team. I suspect the Falcons will be right back in the same place next season drafting yet another top-ten pick. Maybe they will waste a top-ten pick on a kicker or punter next year!

    • @rip8564
      @rip8564 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@briannettles669 Sorry Brian but I disagree. The Falcons came down to the wire this past season with the shitty and inconsistent play behind center at QB. Now they have the vet QB for the short term and the rookie for the long term. You can say what you want but this team WILL win this division this season. They have a lot of good solid pieces on that roster. This is a page right out of Green Bay with Love being picked while Rodgers was still there. Sorry you can’t see it. The Falcons have had pure crap at the QB spot since Ryan left. And they still were in the conversation at the end. That all changes now. They’re built to win now.

    • @paulthomas9911
      @paulthomas9911 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      GM and coach dont know what most of the league knows. you dont tie up 25% of the salary cap in QBs.

    • @rip8564
      @rip8564 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulthomas9911 Well Ridder is gone so there’s that rookie salary. Heinicke will stick so we already had his salary on the books. Woodside? His days are likely numbered so that salary is gone. Looks like we have our QB room.

    • @quentinmathes2361
      @quentinmathes2361 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@rip8564people don't know the falcons team they just say what everyone else is saying I say stop coming over here talking about my team and go talk about your own crappy team

  • @kyledavis635
    @kyledavis635 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what Orlovsky is saying is that Fontenot, Morris and Blank all had bad recent experiences with not having a top level QB, and so collectively they used those experiences to panic and make one of the most bizarre draft choices anyone's ever seen....

  • @bigred0704
    @bigred0704 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dan has never met a QB move he didn’t like lol

  • @wizlb
    @wizlb 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is it OK for cousins to be picked when RGIII is the starting quarterback, but Atlanta can’t pick Penix WHEN cousins is the starting quarterback

  • @DoloGrip
    @DoloGrip 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People who are casual fans and never seen MPJ play will like the kid. I don’t have a problem with the pick. He will start sooner than people think. Kirk better be on his A game.

  • @brianmoss9399
    @brianmoss9399 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is also good for Raheem. He’s going to be there at least four years if Kirk doesn’t get hurt. He’s going to have two years to turn it around with what many consider to be a decent,solid quarterback, then ownership is more than likely going to give him a couple of years when it’s Penix’s time under center.

  • @losinfinite
    @losinfinite 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What was our 3 issues last year: Play Calling, QB Play and our front 7 got decimated. We literally addressed all of those. New coaches. We went out and got a starter at QB. Then in the draft one of our top 5 players fell to us so we took him. Then we draft 4 players in the front 7 who will help now. May not start but WILL be used. I dont understand they hate. This isnt madden. We had no idea Penix would be there. If he wasnt maybe we do go Turner, we stuck to OUR board and not the boards of the media outlets.
    Fin.

  • @paulmartin5479
    @paulmartin5479 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It might make sense if you look at the pick in a vacuum, but when you consider the money already spent for Cousins and who was still on the board it's insane. Took an injury-prone back up when Murphy, Odunze, Fashanu and a couple other instant difference makers were still available.

  • @willf3087
    @willf3087 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Penix and think he’s gonna be our franchise QB, so in 5 years I don’t think any of this will matter. My problem is that it feels like we’re just punting on the next 2 years and will be complacent with making the playoffs and that’s it.

  • @joetrapp9187
    @joetrapp9187 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:58 Look at those freaking hands.
    Yeah, with Cousins’ recent injury history, the pick makes more sense.

  • @eulalawrence841
    @eulalawrence841 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went through the exact same thing Dan Orlovsky did; I was completely confused when the pick happened, slept on it, woke up in the morning still a little bit confused, then I started to understand why. This draft didn't really stick out defensively, which is why a defensive player didn't get picked until 15th which wasn't even the guy everyone had being the first defensive player off the board, so they decided to pick based off want instead of need. Everyone has a problem with Penix's age and being a little bit too old to be developed, but we gotta understand that 40 is the new 35 for the QB position. Quarterbacks are playing much longer and taking A LOT LESS hits. They probably plan on letting Penix sit behind Kirk for two years and then let him compete with Kirk for the starting position for the remainder of Kirk's contract. I'm still not the biggest fan of the move but I can understand it.
    My main problem is the fact they started that plan now instead of next year. I understand that no defensive player was worth a top 10 pick this year but the best decision was to trade back and take a chance on someone like Turner or Latu. If they don't work out oh well, at least we traded back and got a another draft pick in return.
    My ideal plan for the Falcons would've been; Let Kirk get a year under his belt to see if he's truly good enough to lead this talented team to a Superbowl. If not then trade up to draft Shedeur next year, because the Falcons aren't going to be bad enough to get a high enough pick to draft him. He's no where near the thrower of the football as Penix but you can't tell me two years under Kirk's guidance wouldn't help with that. He's still raw but the fact he's talented enough to warrant a top pick really shows he has the natural ability, he just needs a little bit of quarterback guidance, instead of that bs QB coaching he gets from his dad and Colorado. Then just re-up on Pitts, London, and Bijan before Shedeur's rookie contract ends. I personally do believe the Falcons pulled the trigger a little bit too early, but I guess only time will tell.

  • @leevancleef358
    @leevancleef358 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Falcons signed up for 1 of these 2 things :
    1) #8 overall pick in Draft NOT ON FIELD PLAYING
    2) $100m Guaranteed Player NOT Playing

  • @broncodeviltexas
    @broncodeviltexas 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talk about who they passed on. They needed to pick Odunze or Bowers or the best defensive player on the board.

  • @monks_media93
    @monks_media93 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kirk made sure his money was fully guaranteed. But forgot to add a no trade clause 😂

  • @zues7706
    @zues7706 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That last sentence!!

  • @coleharland5924
    @coleharland5924 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😊 I'm a long-term Falcons fan when this happened I was shocked I thought we were going to get arguably the best defender in the draft. I like what they've done now I am good with it let's go

    • @quentinmathes2361
      @quentinmathes2361 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Your right because when cousins is gone then what we would just have a edge rusher with no quarterback

    • @coleharland5924
      @coleharland5924 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@quentinmathes2361 exactly. Brother, rise up

  • @hdrogers2909
    @hdrogers2909 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kurt Cousins threw out the first pitch, Kurt Cousins said he wanted to retire there. The Falcons didnt throw out the first pitch. The Falcons didnt say they wanted Kurt to retire there. Not sure what is so hard for Rich to understand.

  • @coolestjabroni7329
    @coolestjabroni7329 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will take this "problem" over Ridder

  • @chazzhammer425
    @chazzhammer425 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Between the end of the season and when free agency starts is a big time gap to figure out your QB plan.

  • @AntonioPittman02
    @AntonioPittman02 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Media making a bigger deal out of this than need be..

  • @technomad1770
    @technomad1770 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Kirk's had 'The rug pulled from beneath him', as they say.

  • @John-bu4ik
    @John-bu4ik 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The new background is kinda distracting lol.

  • @chazzhammer425
    @chazzhammer425 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can they say Atlanta doesn't have to worry about a QB till 2030? WHo knows what could happen in 6 years.

  • @chazzhammer425
    @chazzhammer425 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its not just two years with Cousins. Its 3 years cuz the Dead Cap money is horrible in year 3 also.

  • @c.g.v972
    @c.g.v972 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did Dan just say the first pick is pointless? Lmao

  • @stevekaufmann8109
    @stevekaufmann8109 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It's crazy falcons fans can be mad about acquiring a talented quarterback in the draft considering their franchise history

    • @c.r.chandler5905
      @c.r.chandler5905 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We have the worst fans in the league. They complain about everything yet when positive changes are made, they still complain.

  • @jordancusick8433
    @jordancusick8433 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What did Rodgers do after they drafted Love? MVP, MVP....Maybe they want to push Kirk to be his absolute best for the next few years and now Penix gets to learn, study, and be his best when he does get his shot. If he pans out, they could have elite QB play for the next 10 years. They have holes to fill, but QB hopefully shouldn't be one of them going forward. My best take.

    • @SupeDefy
      @SupeDefy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree 💯. I think this will light 🔥 under Cousins and he'll ball out. Competition is good.
      If Cousins plays well and team wins a lot of games, keep rolling with him for 2 years. If Cousins stumbles or gets injured, then MPJ time.
      If Cousins keeps playing well, could trade Penix to a rebuilding team or team in need of a high ceiling cheap backup QB.
      I realize team spent $$$ on Cousins but having options at QB is a good thing. Steelers and Raiders would have killed for and paid a lot of $$/picks for Penix last year.

  • @Suswritings
    @Suswritings 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go look at cousins contract. Guaranteed money at 100M over two years is under the qb market for both calendar years. The second year of his contract Kirk wont even be amongst the top 10 highest paid quarterbacks. This is a brilliant move by the Atlanta falcons. And honestly the lack of r&d by most broadcasting professionals is astounding. Even rich, you are showing age here. Simply not accepting something because it hasn't been done before.

  • @SupeDefy
    @SupeDefy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    $100M g-money sounds a lot but it really isn't in today's NFL especially for starting QBs. That amount is basically middle of the road compared to other QB contracts. Yea it's going to suck for ATL if hey have to unload Cousins next year, but the hit isn't so bad. Also Cousins will likely have trade value so ATL might get something back.

  • @ahbanawahawashinawa5499
    @ahbanawahawashinawa5499 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn’t Greenbay give Rodgers an extension then went in the draft and moved up to get Jordan????

  • @jakelugenbeel2666
    @jakelugenbeel2666 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    literally everyone been arguing about how the falcons should have done what the raiders did. Raiders didnt overpay for cousins, they got a bridge qb so that when the draft came and they could pick their qb of the future no one talked shhhh about overpaying for cousins. Thats how you do it, sign less talented qbs and hope the future qb falls to you in the draft. nice to see dan finally explain how free agency works to rich,

  • @SunniMerlot
    @SunniMerlot 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does rich not understand ATL not have honking by they would be able to draft him at 8. I’m not sure where the confusion is. The draft didn’t go the way teams thought it would

  • @blueangeles9468
    @blueangeles9468 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Penix get injured and out for the season. Then they all will say, he shouldn't have been drafted in 1st rd. So write the positive reviews names down and should penix get hurt ( hopefully not) see how the positive will become negative.

  • @aidanorsino1
    @aidanorsino1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think if free agency came after draft , this would happen ?

  • @antoniojames9493
    @antoniojames9493 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rich talking like Kirk's retirement isn't right around the corner😆 He's 36 how much longer do you expect him to play?

  • @paulthomas9911
    @paulthomas9911 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orlofksky was the one who stepped out of the back of the end zone and didnt know it, right? ok. got it.

  • @larrylindgren9484
    @larrylindgren9484 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trouble is even if he beats out Kirk. You don't get the cap saving a rookie QB gives you. The lose if they beat him out. They lose if he doesn't because by the time he plays he's 27 and the rookie saving is about over. Not a bad QB to pick. Just a bad pick overall to make because of the insane money you just paid Kirk.

  • @kurtlomas4108
    @kurtlomas4108 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As you think about it its a right pick. I think everyone just want him in a position where he could start, I.E. the Raiders which i would have loved lol

  • @cimirie01
    @cimirie01 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orlovsky is missing one giant piece of critical info when he lists all these places that drafted the “next” QB. The phenomena is absolutely NOT new: he’s right. But in everywhere he listed, the “established” QB in the equation had been with that club for some time. It wasn’t somebody they went and wined and dined and SOLD on coming to their club weeks earlier. The PHILOSOPHY makes sense. This execution is beyond underhanded. It’s clear they did Kirk completely dirty and that management group is now gonna have a higher hurdle to clear with every contested free agent it tries to bring in. They are now on record being completely dishonest with a high profile free agent.

  • @benedettodickey5086
    @benedettodickey5086 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d get if you drafted JJ to sit because of his age. I just can’t get around on Penix being the guy. This just can’t end well. Plus the pressure it puts the locker room in if Cousins struggles and Penix looks great at practice.

  • @gregphipps7082
    @gregphipps7082 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They’ve already said KC is going to b QB1 for the next several yrs. Penix is their qb1 for the next 10 afterwards

  • @H1mothy973
    @H1mothy973 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree

  • @googleaccount594
    @googleaccount594 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After spending 100 M, The Falcons finally realized (Like All Of Us) That when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter of a playoff game- its 4rth and ten...Cousins with all his so-called talent will throw a three -yard check down. Let's go out and get a more confidant and aggressive QB...

  • @andreweldridge1236
    @andreweldridge1236 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love these guys treating each draft pick like they're looking at the stars. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT, THEN I WENT TO BED AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT MORE, THEN I TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THEN IT MADE COMPLETE SENSE! shutup

  • @myfootballjesus
    @myfootballjesus 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lets talk about about the NFL DRAFT crowds and TV Ratings VS NBA playoffs , the NBA DREAMS of getting HUGE crowds like that at their draft or the TV ratings the draft gets compared to NBA playoffs games WOW

  • @johnbradbury5111
    @johnbradbury5111 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If I was cousins I would be pissed shaking my head.

  • @jamesdelaney3797
    @jamesdelaney3797 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Makes perfect sense

  • @SunShine-xc6dh
    @SunShine-xc6dh 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never didn't make sense.
    How long does rich think cousins is playing he contract goes until hes 40
    ..

  • @grantpreiss3915
    @grantpreiss3915 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it’s finally setting in to me that this whole Penix and Kirk Cousins thing, is the best series of decisions in franchise history. On draft night I thought Penix was an irreplaceable talent that happened to fall and they couldn’t pass. But after some thought, I’m pretty sure Penix was part of the plan all along and they realized they refuse to go the route of feed the rookie to the fire and start him year one. That is always a crap shoot, for every CJ Stroud there’s a Bryce Young. They also realized most rookies do not improve under poor bridge QBs, in fact in many ways they end up adopting many of their bad habits. So, how do you give your best shot of recreating a Mahomes situation, or a Rodgers or Love situation? You go pay Kirk. Now, you are a winning football team and you just so happened to get one of the best possible mentors for your franchise QB. It may just slip into genius territory, if it goes right.

  • @atljoe_
    @atljoe_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s hilarious hearing a jets fan disagree with a team getting 2 good qb’s 😂

  • @jabarel594
    @jabarel594 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why mystified for planning for the future of your team. QB IS the most important position.great planning for cheap..

  • @William_Stephens
    @William_Stephens 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It does have something to do with the way you see Penix’s ability as a QB becausebif Caleb Williams fell to no one would think twice if Atlanta took him

  • @bartcmatthews
    @bartcmatthews 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let’s hear Rich’s brilliant plan for what the Falcons do at QB in 3 years ( max) for a QB. They won’t have a good draft pick between now and then, so, without Michael Penix they are right back into QB purgatory. The idea that not taking Dallas Turner somehow means they are abandoning a plan to “win now” Is stupid. They went 7-10 with frigging Desmond Ridder at qb and their current personnel on Defense. That same team with Cousins at QB wins 9 or 10 games easy. And, if they are one edge rusher short of winning the Super Bowl ( which is laughable but seems to be what is implied here) they can easily fill that need with the 20th pick ( or similar) next year. You know what need can’t be immediately addressed with the 15th or higher pick in the draft ? 3 guesses (and the first 2 don’t count)

  • @Keith_No_Sweat
    @Keith_No_Sweat 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kirk cousins getting 100 mil he needs to be figuring out how he gonna make good on that payment and get that leg better

  • @philthyrich0073
    @philthyrich0073 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I felt the Jets should have done the same but with JJ

  • @davestanks
    @davestanks 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rich said I appreciate the insight into the situation but I’m still gonna believe my stupid perception of the pick

  • @dracowuhan7536
    @dracowuhan7536 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Kirk plays out his contract, penix will be 26-27 starting and 1 year left on his rookie contract. If the plan was drafting him, why pay Kirk and not a qb journeyman that he can learn from

  • @tim6986
    @tim6986 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the plan is fine, but you put your eggs in the kirk basket. you do that cuz you plan to win now, just needed a qb. if your plan is to win now, why not invest in that? why use resources to plan for the future? not committing to the now and sign kirk which will keep you in 2nd half of draft, hurting building for the future. seems like they kinda hamstrung the now and the future. only thing that makes picking late in the draft appealing is the possibility of picking last in the draft.

  • @ericbackderf5584
    @ericbackderf5584 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cousins will likely continue to get injured. He is older now and one play away from being out for the season.

  • @bbb4228
    @bbb4228 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Credibility killer doing a complete 180 the next day.

  • @pt1122
    @pt1122 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When they signed Cousins they didn’t who would be on the board when they picked. Did not trade up for him but reacted to take what they believe is big value. Cousins could get injured at anytime. Competition makes people better. I support ATL decision 100%

  • @lamarkennedy5086
    @lamarkennedy5086 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always check the tape🧐

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
    @Frosty_tha_Snowman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They didn't try to make the team as good as they could for Cousins, and they didn't go out on a limb and get Penix hoping he'd be their solution.. they had one foot in and one foot out. Getting Cousins was a waste of money. If you want to have a few years to develop Penix before he plays, you don't really want to have an upper-mid record like you'll get with Cousins - and you could have used that money to get Penix future weapons.. it was a terrible decision to get them both, no matter how you look at it 😂 I can't believe some franchises decisions.. Panthers, Broncos, and now the Falcons.

  • @Frosty_tha_Snowman
    @Frosty_tha_Snowman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing is, it makes sense for them to get Penix... but not Cousins AND Penix 😂 all he did was make sense of why they got Penix, but not why they got them both.

  • @mbd501
    @mbd501 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they like Penix that much, they should trade Cousins to some team that needs a QB, like the Raiders.

  • @RaidKingdom91
    @RaidKingdom91 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Penix is already 24 years old and will not get a chance to play until he’s 27 years old. It’s like I’m going to get him so you don’t get him and use him against me ! The Pick made Zero Sense because you didn’t get any better with him on the Bench ! 😂

  • @whatudontunderstandis-gk9hk
    @whatudontunderstandis-gk9hk 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So they go ALL IN with Kirk Cousins, and make an ALL IN move by drafting a 24 year-old QB who will sit for 2 years THAT really helps an ALL IN scenario Gimme a break, Joel Klatt nailed it. Orlovsky and Rap are ridiculous