How to Install Pool Coping w/ Mortar Bed Prep - Ultimate Pool Guy - 2019

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  • @PinkGum316
    @PinkGum316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great,you are the best.Great explanation

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks for taking the time to check us out brother!...and glad to hear that you enjoyed the video...thanks for subscribing!!

  • @huey216
    @huey216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Sir. Your experience and professional advice is greatly appreciated. I did wall and roof copings in previous life 20 yrs ago, but never touched or owned a pool. Mine was closed 16 yrs when I bought the house in the north east. Lots of work ahead. Thanks again for taking the time to do these videos.. Brian

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right on brother thank you for writing in...best of luck with your project...and I am happy to hear our video work connected with you!

  • @Avantyard
    @Avantyard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This Is a very good video.Well explained and demonstrated work. I have to get my pool repaired due a significant water leak from plumbing. I have been told the crack in the pool deck approx 12 from pool edge and running around perimeter is due to this leak. I was told I need coping since I only had cantilever concrete deck with no separate coping. Your video showed me what to expect.Thanks

  • @juicer52
    @juicer52 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What material did you use to grout the joints? I'm in the northeast if that matters.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sanded grout
      Or
      Plastic cement and sand
      Both can work there

  • @goochma
    @goochma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I love your videos. I've been working on gunite for right around 23 years. You know your trade for sure. You've got a lot of helpful tips that I use every day.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for writing in and for your encouragement
      Stay real out there
      🤜🤛

  • @wayneelliot2429
    @wayneelliot2429 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this in 2024 from Florida. About to build my first pool owner/build permit.

    • @wayneelliot2429
      @wayneelliot2429 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great video. Love the straight forward explanation

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wayneelliot2429 Thank you brother good luck with your project 🔥

  • @elkingarcia6458
    @elkingarcia6458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thank you for the information. How much space should it be between the stones? Thanks.

  • @michaelspunich7273
    @michaelspunich7273 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you just use mason string and levels as opposed to the bender board? Thanks for all of the info!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelspunich7273 yes
      And completely float each piece as you go
      Yes sir
      If you're comfortable with that and your skill level is there you can absolutely do that
      Good luck

    • @michaelspunich7273
      @michaelspunich7273 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy The main reason is that I am not replastering, so I do not have a way to secure the bender board.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @michaelspunich7273 ok sure
      And you can also use your two and four foot bubble levels to check yourself as you go
      You should be ok
      Also spend some good time setting your first piece as being level so that'll be your third way to check yourself is your previous pieces that have been set

  • @concreteeleganceMI
    @concreteeleganceMI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long should I wait to pour concrete next to newly laid coping? there will be a expansion foam paper between the two of course

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      24 hours or 48 hours should be fine if the coping installation was done correctly your expansion joint should be a half inch to 3/4 inch

  • @jasonl3404
    @jasonl3404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey bro , whats your thoughts on a cantilever pool deck? From my knowledge pools have a separation between the coping and decking because the pool moves, expands and contracts differently from the decking. Thats why we have the expansion joint between coping and decking ( deck-o-seal ). But with the cantilever style its decking and coping combined. So although aesthetically pleasing but not recommended? am i on the right track? Please correct where wrong.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cantilever pool decking is regarded as an older style and older design
      The expansion joint for a cantilever pool deck will be at the top of the tile line underneath the decking at the pool side
      This type of construction was done more commonly in older constructions we don't see it too much anymore in brand new construction these days it also lends itself to a lot of expansion and contraction on top of the pool shell and tiles popping off and ending up inside the pool and the water

  • @herbigproj3cts617
    @herbigproj3cts617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Few questions. Watched a few times.
    1. Will 13 x 48 x 2" coping pavers "mush" down farther into the mudbed due to double weight? Each stone weighs 112 lbs.
    2. How light on the thinset? Wet into wet Spec mix?
    3. How to best match Spec Mix & Thinset? I used Laticrete 254 on my waterline tile.
    Thank you!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you have a form board in the front with a good level and its set into the wall of the pool supporting your work
      so yes , everything goes in wet and sets up hard (dry)
      112 pounds each is not extraordinary
      start with one sample piece if necessary
      play with the consistency of the mud till you find a happy medium of working strength and "wetness" that is going to work for your job
      once you get going you should be fine

  • @luis00903
    @luis00903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good to see the pool vids back!!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!
      Yes we got to get back to the pool stuff for the upcoming swim season!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for checking us out and your ongoing support!
      💥👍👍😎

  • @daiannajaramillo9534
    @daiannajaramillo9534 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi!! Your videos are amazing! How much should the bullnose protrude from the pool wall?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What you are asking about is called overhang
      1 and 1/2 to 2 in is normal
      But it can be whatever you want for example coping could be flush with the pool wall if you wanted
      Commercial pools have a raised lip at the front of their coping for people to grab onto
      Your overhang will also affect your rear proportions at the back of the coping what is going to butt up against your decking material if there is any
      Lastly
      We used to deal only with 12-in wide copings like clay fired brick but now we deal with coping that are up to 16 in wide with poor in place concrete
      Just things to keep in mind ☝️
      So with the wider 16-in copings we have more flexibility in design choices overhangs rear proportions stuff like that
      But as a general rule an inch and a half to two inches is fine
      You can also ask your contractor that's installing your materials what they recommend for your region
      And you could even dry fit a couple pieces and see what's going to suit your taste best
      Hope this helps
      Best of luck with your project

  • @kevinanton7
    @kevinanton7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos, thanks for the detailed explanations! What do you mean by spec mix? Thanks!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spec mix""
      Is a brand name of a company that manufactures mortars sold in 60 and 90 pound sacks available at most home improvement places such as home Depot and Lowe's
      Rapid set" is another brand name that offers mortars and cement blends that are also commonly used around the swimming pool

    • @kevinanton7
      @kevinanton7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Thanks for the reply! What kind of spec mix or rapid set do you recommend? It seems like there are a lot of options.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe for the spec mix there is only the blue and brown bag we use the blue bag and we also add Mason's glue to our Spec mix when we're mixing
      For the rapid set products there is cement all the Masons mix and the concrete mix so it's going to be the blue bag that green bag and the red bag
      Are the 3 rapid set products we use the most

  • @firasabbas7653
    @firasabbas7653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great video. What kind of thunder mix you would use? Any specific brand you recommend?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ive never headr of "thunder mix"
      we like
      sack concrete
      spec mix
      rapid set products
      plastic cement and sand
      masons glue in all mixes

  • @jimkline6285
    @jimkline6285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hay Mike good to see you back on the job site, keep up the good work

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for checking in brother!...yeah we have some interesting content that we are going to try to roll out this year
      Stay Safe out there!

  • @LynnPatterson-p6f
    @LynnPatterson-p6f ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video's- I have a section of Copin that has come loose what should I use to re-secure back down.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Spec mix
      Or
      Rapid set products
      Cement all or mortar all
      Are good

    • @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator
      @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly my entire pool coping is loose and grout is trash. I’m going to try to do one side of the pool at a time.
      Do you recommend I scar the base and grind the stone base clean then butter both bed & stone with thinset?

  • @quentinwalker5804
    @quentinwalker5804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven’t even started the video yet as soon as I heard that intro I hit subscribe lol

  • @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator
    @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video! What do you recommend for those who can’t afford a pool remodel and yet need to reset their coping & grout

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's something you can get done on your own
      You do need materials from building supply yard or home Depot or something like that
      You can start with small sample areas to come up with a routine that you're happy with and final results that look good and then you can use that same method all the way around your pool
      Hope this helps

    • @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator
      @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy I'm pumped and Thank you for the words of encouragement. I'm going to try it in 10 block sections. I plan on grinding the base/surface area of the underside of the coping and scarring the pool deck. Mentally I'm stuck with do I use thin-set or a "glue" slash bonding compound? Thankfully, even if I screw it up. It'll look better than it does now.

    • @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator
      @LosAngelesPrivateInvestigator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you have a yelp or google profile where I can leave you a 5 star review?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can use a spec mix blend that has Mason's glue in it and then dollops of thinset on the backside of each piece I sort of outlined this method in the video it's very effective and you end up with a high Bond strength

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes sir you can search ultimate pool guy on Google and there's a listing where you can leave a review thank you very much 🤜🤛

  • @ServiceAero
    @ServiceAero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you incorporate channel drains into pool pavers? I've seen channel drains on pool decks, but what about when a pool with pavers needs drainage away from the house? The pool is higher than the back of the house.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ServiceAero you should be able to do whatever you want
      Talk with your contractor that you're working with for your local building codes and what is reasonable for your region
      🙌

  • @RingVideo
    @RingVideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you show actually putting the mud and thinset onto the coping? I am trying to see how to actually put the thin set and the mortar on

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes brother
      There is another video on the channel about coping and mortar and we cover different information such as that
      Thanks for writing in

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/z4EE7xde8dI/w-d-xo.html
      try this one

  • @Thumpiez
    @Thumpiez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the sneaky tip!! Sounds like los angles ... 100 lolz I love this chanell 100%

  • @johntoon1236
    @johntoon1236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mike, can I repair coping and tile while leaving water in the pool?
    I have done some tile replacement over the years, but I need to replace coping now also. I live in Michigan and the winters are tough on pools. Thank you

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you should be able to reduce the water in the pool by 6 or 8 in or something like that and work everything from the topside with your tile repairs you may have to work upside down but that shouldn't be a problem
      👍

  • @stharpUMUC
    @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am repairing my pool and replacing the coping, but I have to repair the beam first. So, what would you use to repair the beam and then for the coping to sit on before installing it? Thanks!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Regular sack concrete with Mason's glue added for increased bond strength

    • @stharpUMUC
      @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy I have fiberglass over the unite and some fiberglass at the top where it meets the bottom of the tile is coming off. What type of adhesive can I use to glue the fiberglass back to the unite?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stharpUMUC consult your local pool supply store, contractor or building supply yard for some help that would be consistent to your region

  • @brdesign4657
    @brdesign4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video. Right to the point. Question I have is the use of thinset on top... is that something you feel is a good technique in all coping installs? Even cold climates? I’m in Chicago.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back buttering the pcs with this set
      I Only see this as being a benefit and the reason we do it is to mathematically increase the bond strength of what would otherwise be regular mortar
      What I tell people that message in from different regions is to perhaps try a sample area And see if you are happy
      however I cannot see this being an ongoing issue through different climates

  • @mjoliverpro
    @mjoliverpro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, replacing old safety coping with that tapering back. Any precast coping selection tips?. I know about the 1/2" thinset spacing but just wondering what your tips are for not breaking the bank on getting a solid product in. Thanks~

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you located

    • @mjoliverpro
      @mjoliverpro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Menifee. I usually shop riverside SCP/NPT down to Temecula

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a few places I can recommend for your precast...if you still need help feel free to email me
      Ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      bellacrete
      and
      precision coping in valencia
      are both good sources for coping material

  • @scoutgirl7739
    @scoutgirl7739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tutorial. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Especially the little nuances.

  • @dontbetoomad2684
    @dontbetoomad2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I hv a background in Tile of about 30 years. My bro has a Paver background of about 15 years. I’ll try to keep this short but at the moment I am trying to figure out a better way to grout and clean our concrete paver coping and a remodel situation. Number one do you have any ideas as to what to put underneath the area being grouted to catch the excess grout instead of it going into the pool? Number two I do not like the haze it leaves on the concrete pavers so I’m also wondering if you have any suggestions for that, keeping in mind that they are paver guys and are not tile guys therefore they are somewhat messy. I have tried using a grout release to make it easier to clean off of the coping and that worked OK at best. Next I wanted to try to actually seal the coping with a sealer to see if that helps. What do you guys use to float inside a remodel pool while you grout so that you do not make a giant mess in the pool? Thank you so much!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grout haze issues
      Try light acid wash
      Sponge down
      Light acid on a sponge
      Etc...
      Inside of pool
      Try to mask off / tape off
      Or make a mess and clean up later
      Good luck

    • @dontbetoomad2684
      @dontbetoomad2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know how to get it off once it’s on but I’m trying to avoid getting it all over in the first place. Do you guys deal with pools w water still in them?

  • @mitchelljif
    @mitchelljif ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mike, thanks for all of your great content. I want to try and clarify something with you regarding order of operations on your coping job... Once your pool beam has been cleaned up
    and prepped... do you then lay your mortar bed and let this cure, then once cured put the new coping stones with the thin set applied to the bottom of each stone?...Or are you laying your mortar bed and then setting the stones right away with thin set applied to the bottom of each stone?
    I really appreciate your time

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      You want to make a pass where you clean and repair your bond beam
      But once you are all formed up and ready to go then it's all one process you throw your mud back butter your thinset and go
      Everything is floated momentarily
      And you have some working time
      But should set up hard
      You should use some Masons glue in your spec mix as well

  • @isabustamante5603
    @isabustamante5603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which brand do you recommend from Lowes Or Home Depot To Use For The Mortar Bed?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spec mix with Masons glue
      Or
      Sand and plastic cement is also good and commonly used

  • @americanpool
    @americanpool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you put your form boards on why the wood stake? I do use a Ramset and I use euca board or Masonite and usually blow out a lot of spots on the wall. Does this stake idea help because you have 2 ways to anchor the board? Where do you get your boards?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Form boards like these can be purchased at landscape supply or local building supply yard
      Powder actuator fastener is 1 way to mount the boards
      The method shown in this video is a little different the wood stakes are mounted with hammer and nail

  • @daviddrury734
    @daviddrury734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video! Thank you. We are replacing 200' of coping on an old pool. We have demo'd the old coping and the mortar bed from the top of the pool wall. The old mortar bed varies in thickness. We plan on leaving enough thickness for the spec mix and thinset. I have a couple questions...1. Is it ok to use a fast setting mortar with bonding agent to build up and level the bond beam surface? 2. do you wet set the coping with a spec mix and thin set both wet? 3. What specific products do you recommend. The team has set pavers, concrete, tile, and stone in the past, but the pool environment is new to us and we want to insure that we get proper adhesion. Thanks again! and thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hello sir thank you for writing in
      1. yes clean up your mortar bed...get rid of all loose material and then get yourself going again with some "RAPD SET" product...mortar or cement all you can use some masons glue here or your "bonding agent"
      2.yes once you are happy with your base and your form boards are leveled up throw down and spread some spec mix and a dab of thin set on the bottom of your coping piece and start to move
      3.rapid set products are good to use around the pool area and set up quick ...name brand spec mix is good...you can also use plastic cement and silica sand in place of spec mix
      the secret is in your prep work here take your time clean up your areas and this will make for a good install
      best of luck to you ...feel free to write back if you need more

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is another video we have on the channel with coping installation
      this one is on 4K resolution and has some different information in it that may help you
      th-cam.com/video/z4EE7xde8dI/w-d-xo.html

  • @novagunn6236
    @novagunn6236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job but what product do you use to fill the cracks between the stone coping. From the picture it looks like mortar is it?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sanded grout
      Plastic cement
      Spec mix
      Can all be used

  • @JuanJimenez-xm4cu
    @JuanJimenez-xm4cu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I have seen that some builders slope their coping towards outside the pool to prevent water to get in but I have noticed that you keep it flat.. Is there any reason why you keep the bullnose flat? Im guessing you did slope the deck 1/4" per foot

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      on this job we did not do the deck work...some of the things you are asking about are also dictated by regional building codes...oftentimes coping is tilted up at an angle like that on commercial pools to accommodate local building codes for commercial pool construction there are also drainage requirements for deck drains for both commercial and residential construction to become familiar with depending on where you live and where you are working

  • @eduardoalba3012
    @eduardoalba3012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awsome video brother very helpful im about tondo my first coping job tomorrow and it definitely made me more secure about what i knew about coping ! I had an idea but u just reassured me that i had the right idea in mind lol thanks a lot keep up the good work and god bless you !

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right on brother...good luck and God Bless you...take your time and set each piece perfect...you wont have any troubles...write in if you have any questions!

  • @sergioamescua6264
    @sergioamescua6264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello hope you read this. I need some advice. I'm having a new pool built. Today they poored the coping. Pored in place. So when I got home from work and go to check out the coping and notice it has lots of cracks already. This is only just a few hours of installation. I notified my contractor. My question to you is what is the correct way to repair this. Concrete does have color in it. Does it have to be demoed and redone. Need your expert advice

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usually with this we like to see a really nice installation with no cracking and a nice finish
      Ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com
      Feel free to email any pictures you may have

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/lCdpxFHIAUY/w-d-xo.html
      something like this

  • @carls1977
    @carls1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you are using VersaBond for coping installation. What thinset would you use to install the tile at the water level just below the coping? TIA

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pro lite
      Non sag
      Available at home Depot now
      Or versabond products are also ok
      Rapid set products for repairs around tile line are also widely used
      Also available at home Depot

  • @TrentHendyTravels
    @TrentHendyTravels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Could you use bondcoat for your mortar bed?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hello thank you for writing in
      I am always open to other ideas and ways of doing things
      bond kote is listed as a 2 part resin designed for plaster adhesion
      considering the relatively low cost of spec mix or plastic cement and sand...for this one I would say we should probably stick with traditional mortar bed material...and use bond kote for what it was specifically designed for
      hope this helps

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      unless there was another reason for us to consider that outside of cost

  • @GeorgieBoy12410
    @GeorgieBoy12410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mike, very helpful video, any differences to be aware of when installing 6' long coping? I'm installing bluestone coping around a pool. Should the mortar bed be thicker given the weight? Thanks!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've never heard of coping pieces installed that are this long but you don't have to make any adjustments to the mortar bed make sure you use high quality building products such as rapid set products
      Lmk if you have any more questions
      Coping pieces are going to be supported by your level form boards as well so you should have no problems working your way all the way around the pool follow your level from the previous piece

    • @GeorgieBoy12410
      @GeorgieBoy12410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Mike, my contractor is installing 2 ft wide coping around the pool followed by bluestone. They recommended pinning the coping to the pool wall and installing an expansion joint between the coping and bluestone. Make sense?

  • @sisson32986
    @sisson32986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you be able to tell me how you set your string line? First time trying this and mentally I'm struggling to figure out how to make sure I'm setting my mortar bed at an equidistance up around the entire pool. Appreciate the vid brother! Thanks! - Mike

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/z4EE7xde8dI/w-d-xo.html
      there is this other video from the channel where i talk more about setting your form boards and leveling them out
      you can use a "water level"
      a laser level
      or
      measure tape and bubble levels to find your level and pass it around the pool
      you can even mock up a few pieces and find your level that way and then shoot it around the pool
      hope that this helps

  • @michaelsalcido3736
    @michaelsalcido3736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mike. “ Tocayo.” I’m sure you know what that means. If not ask your “maestro” lol. Mike,you obviously do major construction work. Love you vids & especially how you detail your explanations. I simply wish to to a border re-tile of pool. It’s old, cracked in several places & falling off in other places. It is a 6 in border around the pool & the tile surrounds the jacuzzi. Can you please advise specifically what kind of thinset & WHERE can I purchase it along with what kind of grout & WHERE to get the grout? Also, do you have video of a tiling job like I’m doing so I can learn & get tips? Thanks & keep up the good work. From El Paso, Texas.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Versabond products from home Depot will work
      You can get Mason's glue and add it to your thinset so you get a higher bond strength
      You can find or search for local building supply yards next to your location and also go there and see what they have to offer in the way of thinset and grout
      Sanded grout is what you are looking for

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are two videos on the TH-cam channel covering swimming pool tile installation you can check out also hope this helps

    • @michaelsalcido3736
      @michaelsalcido3736 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Thank you for a prompt reply. One additional thing if you don’t mind, is that Versabond w the added mason’s glue waterproof. I assume all those items must be water proof. Or are they waterproof on their own already?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      These products should already be good for wet location
      You can always stop by your local building supply see what they have in the way of materials and ask for perhaps some recommendations for the area you live

  • @adrianoyson4033
    @adrianoyson4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of adhesive that I'm going to put during the installation of coping stone?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Rapid set products
      Spec mix
      Plastic cement with sand
      Are all good choices that should be readily available for you

  • @JonathanLopez-b3l
    @JonathanLopez-b3l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was curious about tile layout what do you do if you end up with a odd short piece say 7” at the end?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can cut this material using a diamond blade on an angle grinder or cut off saw
      Tile and coping pieces can be trimmed to fit for your job

  • @Paintballin4respect
    @Paintballin4respect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you start in a corner ??? Shoukd it be symmetrical on a rectangular pool?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes start in a corner and finish in the same corner , you sound like you have a good handle on it, forget perfect symmetry and start laying pieces

  • @BuckDaddyMusic
    @BuckDaddyMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! How about doing one on how to cut pavers around a skimmer?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one
      Thank you for writing in
      Ill keep that in mind

    • @tigerd1667
      @tigerd1667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And coping over a skimmer plate!

  • @scorpiuswireless1
    @scorpiuswireless1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any advice on over paving and cutting inside edge in situ after glue has set? It’s a curved pool and I want the inside and outside perfectly curved to follow pool shape.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes you can do that...you can also pre measure your angles and try to get close tolerances prior to installation...similar to a pre cast situation/pre cast material

  • @wes3350
    @wes3350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice videos ! Had a question on if the top of the bond beam was crumbling . After clearing all the loose rubble off and forming up . What type of concrete would you poor to repair the bond beam? And would you use a bonding agent ? Thanks !

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes bonding agent
      Masons glue is good
      If you can you should chip out whatever is damaged dowel in some fresh re bar where applicable and form it up if you can
      and simply build it backup with a 5500 psi sack concrete is fine finished with a wood towel

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This sets you up for laying in your Coping on the top

    • @wes3350
      @wes3350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great ! Thank you for the feedback . I’ll probably be mixing it by hand so wasn’t sure if regular high strength concrete bags would suffice . Thanks again !

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      no problem good luck

  • @DjSaintDogNow
    @DjSaintDogNow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the knowledge. Great detail of explanation. You guys are true experts.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right on brother thank you for writing in and for your comments
      stay real out there!!

  • @jazziejim
    @jazziejim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Mike. So helpful. What did you use as grout in the joints between the stones? I have old bullnose coping that I used Specmix only on and I'm getting cracks between the stone and Specmix that I used for grout.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello
      You can also use plastic cement and silica sand works well

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤜🤛

    • @jazziejim
      @jazziejim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy If I used bonding solution with my Specmix would I have avoided the cracks?

    • @jazziejim
      @jazziejim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And since the cracks are hairline how to fix them?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hairline cracks are not always indicative of a bad job

  • @emceelovin
    @emceelovin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish Michigan had great companies like this...
    I need the trifecta, but since there are only like two companies, and one was on the news for neglect etc, it upsets me and drives up the price so much compared to the south. plaster is like the only surface anyone can do around here also. pebble would be great. I've done tile and grout before. how different is it compared to regular tile and grout? maybe I could save some money doing that myself.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can probably get the pool ready for plaster your self
      It's not easy but we can do it together
      ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com
      You can email me here

    • @emceelovin
      @emceelovin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's exactly what I was hoping for, and after watching the videos, with time on my side since I'm not a business lol, I feel like I have enough confidence to do just that. I told myself if I could just get it ready for plaster, I'd be ok with someone doing that. I absolutely don't want to, and if I could find someone who did pebble, it would offset the higher cost. my coworker does a lot of work for his dad's construction company, he's a stone mason and said he would help me, so that should make things easier. I really appreciate the reply and help. I'll definitely get into contact with you. thank you for all of the videos! you guys are great.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emceelovin ok

  • @maxkiani8974
    @maxkiani8974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi mike great video thanks can you please tell me where you buy your copping supply thanks again im also in los angles.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Central valley builders supply on Reseda and sepulveda
      Jacobi on Canoga
      Bourget brothers
      Arroyo building supply in sylmar
      For handmade stuff you can check out Jesus from precision from the pool guy reality show on my channel
      This is pretty complete ☝️
      Bellacrete also for handmade stuff

    • @maxkiani8974
      @maxkiani8974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy mike thank you very much .

  • @fernandocantu5350
    @fernandocantu5350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a house with brick used as the top lip on the pool. Can it just be ripped out and replaced? Or do I have to rip the whole pool apart also?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No
      You can R/R
      Remove and reinstall just the coping

  • @pollyrosemond2480
    @pollyrosemond2480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike
    Thanks for the video. We are getting a pool and getting now mixed reviews about our contractor. This video was very informative. It helps me to know what to expect. Do you have other videos?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes
      you can click on the UltimatePoolGuy icon anywhere on the You Tube platform and it will take you to the Ultimate Pool Guy You Tube channel homepage where you can see all of our video work
      thank you for writing in

  • @SimoneOconnell
    @SimoneOconnell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi could you help a concrete block pool pool rebar through the blocks cement filled.rectabgle shape .best way to attatch the bullnose to the concrete block.also could you tell me what to use mix and ratio thanks

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok you can treat your concrete blocks similar to a concrete wall with your coping ...you will need to lay a base and set each piece similar to a concrete structure pool...you can purchase sack concrete from your local building supply or home depot and that will already be pre mixed and then you can just add water to that to get your "mud"...hope this helps
      thank you for writing in !

    • @SimoneOconnell
      @SimoneOconnell 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy another person has suggested using a slurry of white cement and bedding the bullnose .dop you think this method is ok as well or should we use soft sand and cement.Thankyou for your last reply

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I don't see a problem with this
      You can always do 1 or 2 and see if you are happy with the results first before continuing

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thin set is good to throw in also

  • @dannyhoward9220
    @dannyhoward9220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much does it cost to do a job such as the one you were showing on the video

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8-12k depending on location and materials

  • @lisacakes4227
    @lisacakes4227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mike. Great video! It really showed me what things are going to look like with getting my old pool redone. At least for now, just the tiles because that’s all I can afford and it is very expensive. My question is this, why does my coping have to be replaced as well? It’s the tiles that really need replacing but do they all work together as a unit and that’s why the coping must be replaced as well? I’m only asking because the coping looks fine. Thanks for your attention!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coping
      And
      Tile
      Are seperate structures
      There are occasions with some very old pools and it is common to see... Bond beam damage and that affects both coping and tile
      It would also be common to see some cracking in the tile line or in the coping areas or both where something like this has occurred
      And on these occasions we have to also make some Bond beam repairs which requires pulling the coping Back some along with the tile
      However waterline tile can be pulled back and reinstalled separate from pool coping
      Areas that have Bond beam damage can be treated differently

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Transparency in construction is sometimes difficult it is sort of like auto mechanics people assume that homeowners do not know the difference
      It is 100% possible for you to order up tile removal with installation and that's it
      Even if maintaining the original plaster surface

    • @lisacakes4227
      @lisacakes4227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UltimatePoolGuy Hmmm... I got two estimates and they both insist on replacing the coping. One estimate was with the guy not even looking at the pool. I do feel like I’m being taken advantage of. I guess I want to keep shopping companies. Thanks again Mike!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck
      Thanks for writing in

  • @waynepoetic
    @waynepoetic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks. What are your recommendations for setting paver coping on a new polymer panel in ground pool with aluminum liner track/coping edge? Just set directly in the mortar (ie “thicker” thinset? Thanks.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello and thank you for writing din it sounds like you live in a bit of a different region where vinyl liner pools are popular and widely used

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as all of the products are cement and it is all masonry the installation should be the same or very similar

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cement products bonding to plastic and cement products bonding to final will be an issue

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Vinyl"

  • @stharpUMUC
    @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before setting the coping, what material did you use to build up the beam?

    • @stharpUMUC
      @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am repairing my pool and replacing the coping, but I have to repair the beam first. So, what would you use to repair the beam and then for the coping to sit on before installing it? Thanks!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stharpUMUC 5500 psi sack concrete should work ok
      Or plastic cement and #30 silica
      Once your bond beam is repaired you can set your coping with regular mortar and Mason's glue added
      With dollops of thinset on the back of each coping piece just like you see in the video ☝️☝️
      Hope this helps you out

    • @stharpUMUC
      @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy I can only find 5000 PSI at lowes would this work instead of the 5500? Thanks!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stharpUMUC yes this is a similar material that your pool shell is made from
      Also add Mason's glue to this mix as well
      You can even "paint" on the Mason's glue with a brush prior to laying the concrete... this helps increase bonding strength

    • @stharpUMUC
      @stharpUMUC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy So add a tube of mason glue per bag and also put it on the beam before laying the concrete? Sorry for so many questions.

  • @wp5781
    @wp5781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the video . Do you use spec mix in between your grout line? Ive been told to use poly sand but think it wouldn’t work with a cantilevered edge . Any suggestions would be appreciated . Thanks

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello
      Thank you for writing in
      Yes spec mix can be used as grout
      Also plastic cement and sand
      Or sanded grout
      Rapid set products
      There are no rules

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess one reason for sanded polymer grout would be color choice
      A lot of those other options I previously mentioned art cementation has products and would be natural gray in finishing color

    • @wp5781
      @wp5781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate the advice . You do great work .

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you for saying that
      best of luck to you

  • @andrewmcadam7086
    @andrewmcadam7086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you grout or sand the coping? Also how do you cut the corners? What would you do if you had a double wall for the pool/spa and coping isn't long enough to cover the bond beam?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes always grout coping peices

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Move the pcs forward till the overhang in the front is correct
      And cover the back with your decking or pavers or something and make sure to include an expansion joint at that location

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And use some sort of deck joint compound such as deck o seal

    • @andrewmcadam7086
      @andrewmcadam7086 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy thank you for the reply and useful advice!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok

  • @martinaboster2659
    @martinaboster2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Is it ok to build up the pool by adding about 3" of mortar between the concrete and coping? Thanks.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the portion of the pool that you are referring to is the bond beam , you can so this but should use sack concrete and rebar then start laying your materials on top of that so you are making an extension of the bond beam that is equal in strength to the original construction

  • @herbigproj3cts617
    @herbigproj3cts617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the large(ish) grout gap on coping pavers?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      grout gap should be 1/2 to 3/4
      or 3/8 to 5/8
      an 1/8 in shy of the previous measurements
      rear gap is for the expansion joint for decking if there is going to be any
      then filled with deck o seal
      expansion joint sealant""

  • @mikegoolsby2731
    @mikegoolsby2731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the videos Mike! I’ve got a pool that needs new tile as well as coping. Built in 1972 and looks like hell. Newbie question as I’m considering doing the job myself. Does the mortar need to dry first before placing the coping stone w the thinset? OR does the mortar stay moist, then drop in the coping w the thinset slathered on?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello thank you for writing in I'm glad our work is connecting with you
      Whatever repairs are made to the mortar bed let's say you have big chunks that were taken out and removed during the demolition process these repairs should be made and your mortar bed should be leveled out all of this work should be dried first prior to installation
      However once you begin installation I'm usually working with two buckets or one bucket and a wheelbarrow one bucket has my spec mix and we are laying that in and I have another small bucket with some thinset mix the mortar bed goes down I will throw a dollop or two of thin-set on the bottom of my coping piece put it together and level it out and take myself around the pool one piece at a time in this way as the mortar bed and thinset dries it develops a bond between the top of the pool shell and your coping pieces whether it be brick stone travertine or what not
      I hope that answers your question
      Adding a little thin set to the situation increases bond strength
      The drying of the cementatous products is what generates the bond👍

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      at 3.33 in the video I am giving some discussion from the top side of the pool ...here you can see that we have come through and made some repairs to the mortar bed/bond beam - leveled it out - this is now dry...we are now ready to start setting our coping pieces with spec mix and thin set

    • @chrismezzetti6516
      @chrismezzetti6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Do you have a favorite brand spec mix? All I have found locally is type s mortar mixes. Is this the same thing? Thanks again!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes type s mortar is what you are looking for I believe spec mix is the brand name at the end of the video I do a dolly shot and you can see a lot of the material be used if you pause at the correct frame you should be able to see exactly the product we were using should be available from Home Depot Lowe's or any building material supply it's a very common product hope this helps if you are a skilled Mason you can also use plastic cement and silica sand

    • @chrismezzetti6516
      @chrismezzetti6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome!

  • @johnswimcat
    @johnswimcat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive video. You do a good job because you care and you pay attention to detail. Please don't push yourself too hard. People will take what you will give them and that can destroy a good person. Thank you for this and for your reply to my question on another of your videos

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hello
      thank you for writing in and for your comments
      my father always used to tell me to not push so hard
      there are answers in the push and there are answers in no push
      and yes you are right empowering others can be dangerous cause you could be giving power to your enemies
      my path on You Tube has had a life of its own and has tempered me as a person...I've grown and I am not the same
      stay spiritual
      stay real

    • @johnswimcat
      @johnswimcat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Sounds like you've got the balance right... Nice pools!

  • @adrianoyson4033
    @adrianoyson4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much is the length of nosing of the coping stone?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/z4EE7xde8dI/w-d-xo.html
      this is another video on coping installation that also may help you out

  • @chuckbuddystrainer8632
    @chuckbuddystrainer8632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video but I can't find anybody who showing how to grout around the front of those coping blocks there's gotta be some tricks

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is another video on the channel that covers coping installation and I think you can see some grouting there

    • @lostandfound7215
      @lostandfound7215 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put a small piece of tape under the front joint .

  • @mitchelljif
    @mitchelljif ปีที่แล้ว

    Much thanks from Canada for sharing your expertise, Mike! You have a new subscriber, your content is excellent! I wanted to ask you a couple questions. What method would you use to remove stuck on mortar from the bottom of coping stones? Second, what type of grout do you use for the grout line where the top of the pool tiles meet the coping stones? Cheers

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello
      You want to make sure you don't damage your coping pieces when you're trying to clean them up
      You can use a small hammer and chisel
      Or
      An angle grinder with a diamond cup wheel or even a small abrasive wheel would be enough to clean up the bottom of coping stones
      Sanded grout for filling your joints
      If the top joint between the tile and the coping is your expansion
      Meaning there won't be one on the top (cantilever decking) ... then you use silicone
      Otherwise sanded grout is the material to use (available at home Depot)
      This is all for concrete structure pools 👍
      Hope this helps

    • @mitchelljif
      @mitchelljif ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@UltimatePoolGuy Thanks again for all of your feedback - very much appreciated

  • @adrianoyson4033
    @adrianoyson4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much the spacing between the coping stone?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      usually 1/2 inch grout line approx
      th-cam.com/video/z4EE7xde8dI/w-d-xo.html
      check out this video also

  • @jasonl3404
    @jasonl3404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man love your vids bro. Just pure sickness

  • @angelcorrea1726
    @angelcorrea1726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mike got a friend wants to take his existing brick from around the copin of the pool i don't know if I'm saying correctly his deck is papers and he wants to bring them to the edge of the pool

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you can do this
      Be sure to leave room for an expansion joint and you should be fine

  • @codycarpenter1803
    @codycarpenter1803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mike, do the form boards stay , or get stripped when done ? How do you guys determine custom angles for mitre cuts

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      once the coping pcs are set the form boards are stripped away then grout and tile the face - waterline of the pool - if desired / 6 inch
      coping-
      mock up ur pcs
      use an angle finder - similar to bathroom tile kitchen etc.
      dry fit everything before wet application
      try to keep overhang to pool side consistent - some overhang to the rear (bond beam) is usually no problem

  • @IvonBrooks-sb7je
    @IvonBrooks-sb7je ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi just want to know if you have to tear out the old plaster in order to redo it, or was there a reason for you to do it in this project?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For most pools you can replace just the top part if that's what you're looking for which is the coping you can even use a diamond blade and cut underneath the tile and replace just the top portion of the pool which would be the waterline tile and the coping
      For this particular project we were hired to do the plaster the waterline tile some plumbing work and the coping so the coping was part of the scope of work
      Hope this helps you out

    • @IvonBrooks-sb7je
      @IvonBrooks-sb7je ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OK thank you! But I guess what I’m not understanding is if you’re going to replaster your pool, do you have to chip out all the old plaster? Like you did here or can you go over old plaster?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are Los angeles-based so for this region. Full chip Out for swimming pool plaster is common
      For other areas and regions in the United States that use Bond coat and put plaster on top of plaster
      So my recommendation is to figure out what region you live in and do what the most common building practice is
      For best results 👍

    • @IvonBrooks-sb7je
      @IvonBrooks-sb7je ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! 😅 your the best! Last concern what do you put in between the new tile and coping to seal it? My pool was built in 1979 so it has a hard plastic going around the pool that is set in the concrete coping. I’ve seen videos that they just use some type of caulking….

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that you are making reference to the EXPANSION JOINT""...you can use deck o seal"" which is a 2 part epoxy to pour inside of that perticular joint...so you will be removing the old plastic stuff , cleaning the joint , preparing it with a bed of sand #30 and then mixing and pouring your deck o seal , this would be at the end of your job , this joint should be about 1/2-3/4 inch wide

  • @Thumpiez
    @Thumpiez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike I'd like to get classes from you on pools I do remodling out in Coachella I'm trying to learn the trade.. what would you charge???

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im down to help you however I can
      You can email me here
      Ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com

  • @JT-jg8le
    @JT-jg8le 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please help. Please do a video where you reinstall coping brick on an existing mortar bed and where you dont remove the tile and plaster. Full restoration is not realistic for repairs and homeowner diy. The coping came loose and now we use the old bricks or order new bricks and install them. We can drill holes im the sid of the pool like you did. We cant install a new mortar bed, just new thinset. How do you keep them level without that green board you use? What materials do you use for adhesion? How do you cut raduis corners? Make video of repair, not full restoration, for us small guys.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JT-jg8le sounds good brother 🙌
      Will do that 👍

  • @LivingDesignandBuild
    @LivingDesignandBuild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video Mike

  • @cc8988
    @cc8988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job!!! Very descriptive :)

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for checking in!!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we did Easter eggs yesterday and kk wanted to do one for you!

  • @michaelhale2594
    @michaelhale2594 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What material do you recommend for the mortar used between the coping stones?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We like
      Plastic cement with number 30 silica is very good
      Also
      Regular sanded grout from your local home Depot or Lowe's
      The sanded grout option opens you up to different colors that would be available
      If you are doing the work yourself you can create little sample areas to see what material or what color you will be happy with if you're unsure
      Hope this helps and happy holidays ⛄

  • @gloriahernandez7107
    @gloriahernandez7107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Help please.. can you share the liquid bonding that you use for the mortar bed for the tile? also only mortar can r should I add sand on it?Blessings for every one and thank you in advance

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The liquid that is used is a
      "Masons glue"
      For tile there are several ad mixtures that can be used
      You cam also get away with nothing

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are asking about the grout yes sometimes we throw sand on top of the ground for texture and look

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure if I understood the 2nd question

    • @gloriahernandez7107
      @gloriahernandez7107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UltimatePoolGuy ... omg gracias por the replay

    • @gloriahernandez7107
      @gloriahernandez7107 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      UltimatePoolGuy sorry .. for the mortar bed.. do you use Portland only or add sand? I am so frustrated right now.. people should know that is a lot of work into redoing the pool.. thank you

  • @chrismezzetti6516
    @chrismezzetti6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What would you recommend to bond the spec mix to existing concrete? We have concrete walls with fiberglass steps. Thanks for the video!!!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem brother!
      There is a liquid bonding agent it is a concrete glue looks very similar to school glue in color and consistency
      In the past we have poured small doses of this right into the mixing of the spec mix
      There are also other acrylic admixtures available on the market to help increase bond strength however I am less familiar with these products
      Hope this helps out!

    • @chrismezzetti6516
      @chrismezzetti6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy THANK YOU!!!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no worries, best of luck with your project!

  • @mettiroom2133
    @mettiroom2133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike thank you for the knowledge and info much respect.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no problem
      thank you for writing in

  • @J.milaman
    @J.milaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. Waiting and waiting for late tile/rock/Hot tube coping guy. After video we did it ourselves. Coming out 👍. Thank you

  • @matthewpetrovic5973
    @matthewpetrovic5973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you grout the joints or no

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes these joints should be grouted with a sanded grout or plastic cement and sand
      The rear joint going to your decking should have some kind of expansion joint

  • @moosenz_1kefs351
    @moosenz_1kefs351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is mega poxy gel good for porcelain tiles for the pool?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello I'm not familiar with this product
      U can always do a test area 1st to see if you are happy with it
      We use sanded grout ot plastic cement with silica

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00XJjHxeisZG_ImeEe59as65gUbyg%3A1615646709026&source=hp&ei=9M9MYJTTO6KAtgWYrJyoBA&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYEzeBaPlDdlW6ADrLrWAy2X4OAPj4Cuh&q=sanded+grout&oq=sanded+grout&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAOgQIIxAnOg4ILhCxAxDHARCjAhCRAjoFCAAQkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoFCAAQsQM6BQguEJECOgQIABADOg0ILhCxAxDHARCjAhAKOgsILhCxAxDHARCvAToCCC46CAguELEDEJECOggILhDHARCvAToFCC4QsQM6CwguELEDEIMBEJMCOggIABCxAxDJAzoFCAAQkgM6CAguELEDEIMBUNEEWNkWYJgYaABwAHgAgAGQAYgBnQqSAQM1LjeYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwiUna-Bwa3vAhUigK0KHRgWB0UQ4dUDCAk&uact=5

  • @erickrey4353
    @erickrey4353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use a 20ft piece of siding and concrete screws much easier to form

  • @DavidE-dt6oe
    @DavidE-dt6oe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you let the Spec Mix mortar bed dry before back buttering and installing the coping tile with the thinset mortar?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No sir
      For that portion everything happens at once

  • @joec6557
    @joec6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mike, My concrete pool lifted 6 inches from the deep end June 2017 as a result left a slop. Mike I need expert advice. Would you cut the top of the pool to make it even with the shallow end OR would you build up the top with concrete?
    Either way I’m going to be installing a concrete coping and finish off the rest of the yard with a concrete stamped patio.
    Pool company says to cut and the concrete people said to build it up. Not sure what to do!
    Where can I send you a picture. Thanks Joe

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      these are all great questions...I would have to say we need to address the void under the pool structure...if we cut the top of the pool to make it even with the world we still have a weak and compromised structure underneath and we must consider the outward pressure of the water once the pool is filled...
      pictures can be sent here
      ultimatepoolguy@gmail.com
      Ill look out for your materials
      best regards

    • @joec6557
      @joec6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Mike for the quick response. I emailed the picture of the lifted pool.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hello sir,
      I received your photo I am going to run this past a couple of my foreman and try to get a collective opinion for you

    • @joec6557
      @joec6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Awesome thanks! There has been no movement in the structure. It was build in 1971 by Valmar Pools. I'm getting conflicting information up here in Toronto Canada.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hello sir
      I replied to your email but was not sure if you got that
      the consensus that we came to is to not cut into the bond beam of your pool and to rather build up the low side to level things out...cutting into the bond beam compromises the integrity of the re-bar structure

  • @Dave_Meyers
    @Dave_Meyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the thin set on thee coping stones. Would you do that with a natural coping material like bluestone?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thinset helps to add bond strength

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes applicable to natural stone👍👍

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope this helps 💥

    • @Dave_Meyers
      @Dave_Meyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. This may be a dumb question, but why no I honest on the concrete side of the mortar?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not sure if I followed you on that one brother??

  • @fitlyfe4138
    @fitlyfe4138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re very knowledgeable man 👊🏼 that’s why I’m subbing. I need to replaster my pool and they quoted 13k and it’s not even pebble finish 100sq ft

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds good brother thank you for writing and subbing in

  • @ksmooth7667
    @ksmooth7667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what do you use for the grout , do you just use the same mortar? do you make yoour own?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plastic cement and #30 sand
      Regular sanded grout
      Spec mix
      All these can be used for a grout material

    • @ksmooth7667
      @ksmooth7667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy any down falls to using mortar and then applying a waterproof coating to it? .... i heard it may crack (but i'll put in lime) ...thank by the way!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can always try a sample area b4 doing everything to see whats going on with things

    • @ksmooth7667
      @ksmooth7667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy ya samples are awesome, not just at costco!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ksmooth7667 word up brother i heard that!

  • @havokmasta1
    @havokmasta1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent vid man thank you.

  • @Meechstik
    @Meechstik ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this coping method be used with a vinyl pool?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      A vinyl pool will need/ have something different at the top that I'm not completely familiar with
      For sealing and finishing the top
      In the video it's a concrete structure pool and we are located in Los Angeles California
      Hope this helps you out

  • @bperryrm
    @bperryrm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any tips for what type of form board to use when only replacing the coping (ie, not draining the pool or replastering) since I can’t nail anything below the waterline?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure thing I'm do not know how skilled of a Tradesman you are however if you are careful when removing the old material you can prep your mortar bed and it is possible to go about A coping installation with no form boards at all use a shallow mortar bed I like to throw some thinset into the mix to increase bond strength and just level yourself as you go around using bubble levels and Mason line
      You have to be a little more thorough and professional this way however I have done this many times myself and seen it done many times this way
      Think about guys when they are building a block wall there is no form boards for each chord of block or brick they have a bubble level and Mason's line and they just start ripping away same idea with the coping idea for your project
      hope this helps best of luck feel free to write in if you need any more information

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      now that I think about it you will have to keep a shallow mortar bed so that the grout line at the top of your tile looks natural...so you shouldn't have too much issue setting your pieces this way 1/2 in mortar bed max or thinner...even spread your mud with a notch trowel...kinda like flooring
      best

    • @bperryrm
      @bperryrm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UltimatePoolGuy yea, the grout line was what I thought might be tricky. Sounds like it’s not much different than tile floors. Just got to be careful to keep the mortar near near the water line. I assume I can tool it after the tile is down to fix any cosmetic issues?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes...take water and sponge and clean yourself as you move...the previous coping piece will help you set the next one...2ft. and 4 ft. bubble level...you should be solid!
      be meticulous about your demo and prep...this will make the install easier

    • @tjgallo
      @tjgallo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy Thank you. That's a very helpful tip for repairing a section of demo'd coping, like I am doing. Any other tips or suggestions?

  • @matthewthompson4665
    @matthewthompson4665 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mike!!! Really enjoy learning from your videos, very informative and personal work you are doing

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right on brother thank you for writing in and for the great comment
      I am really happy to hear that our video work is connecting with you
      stay real out there!!

    • @matthewthompson4665
      @matthewthompson4665 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you possibly do a video on how to do proper estimates for large jobs

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewthompson4665 hey brother i do get asked that alot and i have not done a video on that yet
      but if you have specific questions on this topic or need immediate input you can email me
      i can provide a good email address if needed
      hope this helps

  • @ilov3mypillow10
    @ilov3mypillow10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many mortar bags for pool coping

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4-5 bags of spec mix should get you around an average size pool

    • @ilov3mypillow10
      @ilov3mypillow10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy what about thinset

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 bags thinset
      2 bags sanded grout
      👍

  • @javynlandscaping2677
    @javynlandscaping2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you don't mind me asking, how much do you charge for that service? I am in Vancouver BC Canada and have owned a landscape construction company for 26 years but we have never installed these before. It will be pretty straightforward for me to install but to price it out is a whole nother issue. And I mean for the labour, concrete framing/finishing around an existing pool and applying the coping. Not the actual coping itself as my customers have already purchased that. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      18-22 dollars a foot
      Installed
      You can also consult with other contractors in your area to see what others are doing

    • @javynlandscaping2677
      @javynlandscaping2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy per square foot? Wow... even including forming, pouring and finishing the concrete for the base? Plus installing the coping? Seems cheap. We are installing on an older pool with a metal edging that is flexible like crazy. I am assuming that once we pour the concrete and kind of go underneath it it will solidify the metal surface.

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is Los Angeles California and we do pools in linear footage you need to familiarize yourself with what's going on in your region with swimming pools and do what is the common practice for your region
      So the price I gave you is for installation only per linear foot
      You would add a materials cost on top of that

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On 100 linear foot pool for flagstone coping were installing that for $60 per linear foot something like that so 100 linear foot pool you're charging 6,500 for flagstone coping

    • @javynlandscaping2677
      @javynlandscaping2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltimatePoolGuy so are you including the product in that price? If so what would it be without the Stone? Thanks!

  • @mishmashmixer
    @mishmashmixer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent info...now I know why my coping didn't stick

  • @scottpaul3343
    @scottpaul3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you pitch the mortar bed or did you pitch the coping as you set it or did you have the coping level? thx

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello thank you for writing in
      tilting the coping in a residential application is optional to my knowledge and a requirement in commercial installations 10 degrees i think
      so in this video it is a level installation to my knowledge

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      instagram.com/p/CKCCh5QBQPl/
      this is instagram video in a pour in place application

  • @RA-do6et
    @RA-do6et 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you apply the thinset between the bond beam and the mortar bed?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes
      Smear on wall
      Set tile
      12-24 or so inch at a time
      Whatever you feel comfortable with check and follow level as you go and start and stop at the skimmer mouth if possible so your work looks clean

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sorry i though that this was for tile
      yes to your question
      and a fat dollop on the backside of each piece as you go

  • @TheAalexga
    @TheAalexga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if your coping is wider than your bond beam? Do I just widing it extra mortar? If so how thick?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One way to deal with that is to figure out how much over hang you want hanging over the edge of the pool
      And keep that the same throughout

    • @TheAalexga
      @TheAalexga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am definitely going to add some overhang. What if after the overhang is still not enough in some areas?

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A pool shell thicknesses is approximately 8 to 10" throughout across the bond beam
      You can figure out your overhang and throw your mud on the bond beam and this should be more than enough
      I think what you are concerned about is the portion of material that will be hanging off the back end of the bond beam and that generally is not an issue
      Unless you feel as though the bond beam is weak or has damaged or otherwise does not have enough mud or material to make a good installation

    • @TheAalexga
      @TheAalexga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UltimatePoolGuy yes that is my concern. Some areas will have maybe an 1inch or 2 sitting on dirt even after the overhang. So i will add my half inch of mortar and lay on the dirt. Thank you so much for your help. I really do appreciated

    • @UltimatePoolGuy
      @UltimatePoolGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

  • @tulio3571
    @tulio3571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you brother.