Chuck, I really appreciate your videos. I even went out and bought a Peavey Studio Pro (as well as a Studio Pro 40) after I saw you video. Question. How would you use the Radar with something like the Peavey Studio Pro or the Studio Pro 40?
The way I use it is send the line out (1/4” unbalanced) to the radar. Then that can go to FOH (it won’t affect the sound of the amp). I like the 1x12” kitty, sm57 mic, and I like having the power amp sim on too (it just makes everything sound sweeter 🤷♂️). What’s important is the high and low pass on the parametric EQ.
@Chucksguitargeekery Is there any advantage to using the balanced line out with the XLR? Or are there any applications where you would need to use that output?
There’s no benefit going to the radar, plus you’d have to get an adapter too. In theory, the XLR would be used to go straight to FOH, but it sounds awful on its own.
Any time you turn on a tube amp, the safest assumption is to always have a load of some sort on the amp. Either from a speaker or a load box. Solid state amps can get away with not having a load on the amp though.
Hi Chuck. Thanks for video. I bought one and I hear a hum through headphones. Changed a couple of headphones and all are the same. The output is good without any noise. Wondering if my unit is faulty.
Hey! Great video! Still I gotta ask if you might know, but my 6505mh head has a speaker disable button and I wonder if I can use radar in loop send without a speaker. Will it break my amp if I use disable speaker button and play without speaker?
I have the orange micro dark and I love how it sounds through my greenback cab, but as I won’t annoy my kids in the evening by playing guitar, I am looking for a cheap cab sim which I can connect to my headphone out. Problem: it already has a cab sim integrated (which sounds like shit) Do you think it could sound good with the Radar? Did your amp in the video has a frequency corrected HP out?
The good thing about the micro dark is it has an effects loop. So, I would send the preamp out to the Radar. The good thing about the Radar compared to most cab sims is it also has a power amp emulation. This is honestly the setup I do for almost all my videos now with the terror stamp.
Yeah I know. But then I have the problem, that I have to disconnect the speaker to play completely silent. And that means I need a dummy load at my speaker out or my Amps Headphone out. Or will it mute the speaker if I do not go back in the return of the FX? @@Chucksguitargeekery
@@jan7907 the micro dark has a solid state power amp, which means it can run without a speaker. The tube in the preamp doesn’t matter with regard to that. As long as it’s the Micro Dark you’re talking about, not the Tiny Dark. If you do have a tube amp and it has a series effects loop, you can always run the preamp out to the Radar and have a dummy patch cable to the effects return and it will silence the speaker.
ciao dimmi... ho appena acquistato il mooer radar.. ho una testata valvolare Laney irt studio e dall'uscita DI sono andato direttamente alla scheda audio presonus 1810c .. poi dalla chitarra passo per un paio di pedali e vado nell'input della testata... ora come e dove collego il mooer radar?.
@@Chucksguitargeekery si ha una simulazione ma ovviamente la terrei su off.. secondo te il collegamento potrebbe essere il seguente:'?? ..DI testata Laney + Mooer RadaR + Scheda audio?
I ordered one already. I am planning to use it as part of a "stereo setup" on one side I will be using a mic'd tube amp with pedals as usual, but my last pedal is stereo, So one of the outputs will go to the Mooer Radar, and from the radar direct to a PA. Not sure if you tried this already.
I haven’t, but that’s a great way to use it. Like the tone in my voice, I run everything mono. If I start gigging again, I’ll probably put my stereo chorus at the end, send Radar to the PA for FOH, then the other side just to an amp on stage for monitoring.
I'd like to add this to my setup but will it work, just need advice.. BOSS NS-2 INPUT TO SEND > MOOER 017 MICRO PRE AMP > BOSS MT-2 > BOSS NS-2 RETURN THEN OUTPUT STRAIGHT TO A LINE 6 SPIDER IV. (WILL THE RADAR HELP ON PRODUCING A TIGHTER BITE FOR MY SETUP) to tell you honestly, purpose of using the line 6 spider 4 is just like having it as a speaker. can i place the radar last after the output from the ns 2 then go straight into the input of the spider 4? will that make any improvements? need advice pls. i hope you can go on through this. thanks!
This isn’t really for going into a guitar amp, it’s more for taking the signal from an amp or pedals to send to the PA or recording interface. Maybe try a Tubescreamer to tighten up the sound?
@@allboutthemojo I wouldn’t use the Radar to put cab sims through your speaker, that usually never sounds right. But the effects loop on that amp is Series, so if you want to do silent headphone practice, you send the effects send to the Radar, without a signal going to the effects return the speaker should be silent. Then use the power amp sim since you’ll only be using your preamp on your amp.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Chuck , if I'm not using an amp , just using my pedalboard with the radar at the end of it and going into a speaker cabinet like orange 1x12 , will that work? Do I even need an amp?
WOW i never knew the pre amp would still work with stand by on!! THANK YOU! So i could use a marshall head by itself in standby with out a speaker or load box?
Hey Chuck! Great video. I have a question which would really put my mind to ease. I just bought a radar and I have a Marshall DSL1HR. I do not have a load box and i want to use the radar into the fx send and into my interface. My question is- If i have my speaker connected, along with the radar into the send, it will still carry the load right? I understand it is quite a noob question but i have just gotten my amp recently and i want to be extra sure about this. It is absolutely safe to use the radar into the send and into the interface with my speaker connected as the load, yes? Awaiting your reply, thanks a lot and keep up the great work! :)
Thanks! So your amp has a series effects loop, that means if you send the signal of the preamp but have nothing in the return, the amp will be silent. But always have a speaker hooked up for the load. You could also try just keep it in standby mode too, in some amps the preamp will still work but the power amp isn’t on (but still keep the speaker hooked up)
Hi there! I have exactly the same rig, Marshall dsl1 which I am trying to connect to my sound interface through the Mooer Radar! I took the send from the dsl 1 straight into the radar and then the output from the radar into my sound interface and my guitar is of course plugged into the amp. However, that didn't work and I got a massive buzz sound. How did you manage to make it work for you? Thanks
Hi Chuck! I have a Marshall Origin 20 Combo, without a headphones out, and im using a 4 cable method. Sometimes i need to play in absolutly silence, and the radar seems to be a possible solution to this. Can i use it in 4 cable method? for example, in the return of the Marshall? Thanks a lot and sorry for my english.
You have a couple options here. Does the DI out mute the speaker output? If it does, then you can run that to the Radar. The DI out does have some cab sim, but you can use the EQ function in the Radar to fine tune. If the DI out doesn’t mute the speaker, then the effects loop will be your best bet. Use the effects send (if you have effects in the loop, put the Radar after those effects). That amp has a series effects loop, so if you don’t have anything plugged into the return the speaker will be silent. Then use the power amp simulation in the Radar and you’re good to go.
Let’s say I just wanted to practice guitar with headphones with no amp involved. Could I connect this to an evh 5150 pedal and my guitar with headphones or do I need more pedals involved. My blues jr doesn’t have a headphone jack
What about putting the pedal in the effects loop back into the return and then going out of load box and not use the radars power amp? Does that make sense?
It really depends on if your effects loop is series or parallel. This is meant to send a Mic’d cab sim to a full range PA or recording, not into a guitar speaker. Running a cab sim sound through a real cab just never sounds right. But, if your effects loop is parallel, meaning you can send the signal out but an unaffected signal still goes through the the power amp, then you can simply have the effects send going to the Radar and then send that signal to the PA and the sound coming out of your amp will be unaffected.
does it sound good without a preamp? I'm trying it by connecting it to the sound card but without preamp the sound of the guitar solos is not loaded with gain like when I use the amplifier. Am I wrong?
Leroy Pakkiri you should be good going into any 1/4” instrument line in. If there’s only balanced line or XLR inputs, you’ll need to get a simple DI box to correct the impedance.
I have not tried that amp, and the best information I can find is some amps allow this, it depends on the design and where the effects loop and standby switch are located in the circuit. I would just make sure to still have a speaker connected just in case. From what I’m reading though, the Rocker 15 has a series effects loop, so if you have a signal going out of the effects send, but nothing going into the effects return, there should be no sound going to the power amp and speaker.
I have an Elevenrack that I run through the effects return of my Marshall DSL1000HR and 4X12 cab. Is there a way to use the Mooer Radar in this setup without a PC and/or powered monitors?
@@Chucksguitargeekery Correct. I'm trying to use the cab sims in the Radar through my Elevenrack, which is running through the effects return of my Marshall amp and cab like a preamp. The effects and amp models in the Elevenrack are great, but the cab sims suck. Luckily, the cab sims in the Elevenrack can be disabled, but I'd like to be able to use the Radar cab sims through the Elevenrack, which in turn could be heard through my amp and cab in a live situation.
I see there’s stereo outputs, I would send one to the amp and the other to the Radar, which could then be sent to front of house. The Radar is a stand-alone IR pedal, so you don’t have to bring a computer or anything.
@@michaelbarber1123 But also, I wouldn't run the Radar into the Marshall amp/cab, when you run a signal with guitar cabinet simulation through a guitar cabinet, it doesn't sound right. The IRs in the Radar are meant for full range PA speakers with horns and whatnot. But, if you want a direct signal from the Elevenrack to send to the PA without mic'ing your amp, then the Radar is the way to go. The amp will pretty much be for onstage volume/monitoring.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Luckily I figured out how to do it. Both my Marshall DSL100HR and MG15CFX have a 3.5mm audio input for plugging an mp3 player to play along with. I simply use a male to male 3.5mm cable that I run from the Radar into the amp's audio input and it works very much like an effects loop return. It overrides everything but the master volume on the amp and I plug my guitar into one of my pedals, which I then plug into to Radar. In this case I'm using a Biyang Metal End King distortion that has an amp simulator switch, into the Radar, then into the mp3 player input. Works perfectly and I can now get some amazing and brutal tones through my amp and cap (as well as the little practice amp) that are beyond anything I've ever heard before through both my Marshals at anywhere from bedroom levels to 100 watt tube roar.
I didn’t try it that way, this is more of a power amp/speaker simulator, not a preamp. I don’t think it would work too well having speaker simulation going through a guitar speaker.
@@Chucksguitargeekery .. Thank you for the response.. Can i plug the radar with pedals in to the Input of the Amp? a newbie in this kind of set-up.. Oy any advice to use it live using an amp? Thank much!.
No problem, the point of this pedal is to have a cabinet-emulated sound of an amp for either playing through headphones or sending to a P.A. instead of micing the amp. If you want to use this in a live setting with your actual amp, it depends on the amp. If your amp has a parallel effects loop, you can send the preamp out to the Radar with the power amp simulation on, then send that to the P.A. for front of house sound. Or some amps have a direct out or headphone out of some sort, you can send that signal to the Radar, then from there to the P.A.
With a pedalboard, you’ll have to either have a stereo pedal at the end of the chain (maybe a chorus) or an ABY switch. Send one side of the signal to the Radar and then to the P.A. and the other side of the signal to your amp for on stage monitoring.
The input is mono, yeah, most headphone outs are stereo. If you use a mono cable, it’ll only catch one of the tabs in the output and create a mono signal. The only thing is Headphone outputs are a lot hotter than a line signal, so you have to keep the volume pretty low, the input of the Radar can clip pretty easily.
Chuck, I really appreciate your videos. I even went out and bought a Peavey Studio Pro (as well as a Studio Pro 40) after I saw you video. Question. How would you use the Radar with something like the Peavey Studio Pro or the Studio Pro 40?
The way I use it is send the line out (1/4” unbalanced) to the radar. Then that can go to FOH (it won’t affect the sound of the amp). I like the 1x12” kitty, sm57 mic, and I like having the power amp sim on too (it just makes everything sound sweeter 🤷♂️). What’s important is the high and low pass on the parametric EQ.
@Chucksguitargeekery Is there any advantage to using the balanced line out with the XLR? Or are there any applications where you would need to use that output?
There’s no benefit going to the radar, plus you’d have to get an adapter too. In theory, the XLR would be used to go straight to FOH, but it sounds awful on its own.
Great vid! just one question, Is it still necessary to plug a loadbox to the amp head with methods 2 and 3??
Any time you turn on a tube amp, the safest assumption is to always have a load of some sort on the amp. Either from a speaker or a load box. Solid state amps can get away with not having a load on the amp though.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Is it the same if the amp has only a valve in the preamp and a transistor powerstage??
can I use in effects loop? from amp send to radar then back to amp return?
You don’t return it back to the amp. Just preamp send to the radar, then you can send that signal to the mixer or plug your headphones in.
hi, can i use it like this NS send > Precision drive > Mooer 015 > NS return > Output > Mooer Radar > FRFR speaker or Fx Send?
Please share some of your presets/ user settings, thanks!
Hi Chuck. Thanks for video. I bought one and I hear a hum through headphones. Changed a couple of headphones and all are the same. The output is good without any noise. Wondering if my unit is faulty.
Hey! Great video! Still I gotta ask if you might know, but my 6505mh head has a speaker disable button and I wonder if I can use radar in loop send without a speaker. Will it break my amp if I use disable speaker button and play without speaker?
Thanks! If the owners manual for the amp says it’s ok to run the amp without the speaker with that speaker disable button engaged, you should be good.
I have the orange micro dark and I love how it sounds through my greenback cab, but as I won’t annoy my kids in the evening by playing guitar, I am looking for a cheap cab sim which I can connect to my headphone out. Problem: it already has a cab sim integrated (which sounds like shit) Do you think it could sound good with the Radar? Did your amp in the video has a frequency corrected HP out?
The good thing about the micro dark is it has an effects loop. So, I would send the preamp out to the Radar. The good thing about the Radar compared to most cab sims is it also has a power amp emulation. This is honestly the setup I do for almost all my videos now with the terror stamp.
Yeah I know. But then I have the problem, that I have to disconnect the speaker to play completely silent. And that means I need a dummy load at my speaker out or my Amps Headphone out. Or will it mute the speaker if I do not go back in the return of the FX?
@@Chucksguitargeekery
@@jan7907 the micro dark has a solid state power amp, which means it can run without a speaker. The tube in the preamp doesn’t matter with regard to that. As long as it’s the Micro Dark you’re talking about, not the Tiny Dark. If you do have a tube amp and it has a series effects loop, you can always run the preamp out to the Radar and have a dummy patch cable to the effects return and it will silence the speaker.
ciao dimmi... ho appena acquistato il mooer radar.. ho una testata valvolare Laney irt studio e dall'uscita DI sono andato direttamente alla scheda audio presonus 1810c .. poi dalla chitarra passo per un paio di pedali e vado nell'input della testata... ora come e dove collego il mooer radar?.
il DI fuori sul Laney ha una simulazione di cabina? (Sto provando una buona traduzione, spero che abbia senso!)
@@Chucksguitargeekery si ha una simulazione ma ovviamente la terrei su off.. secondo te il collegamento potrebbe essere il seguente:'?? ..DI testata Laney + Mooer RadaR + Scheda audio?
I ordered one already. I am planning to use it as part of a "stereo setup" on one side I will be using a mic'd tube amp with pedals as usual, but my last pedal is stereo, So one of the outputs will go to the Mooer Radar, and from the radar direct to a PA. Not sure if you tried this already.
I haven’t, but that’s a great way to use it. Like the tone in my voice, I run everything mono. If I start gigging again, I’ll probably put my stereo chorus at the end, send Radar to the PA for FOH, then the other side just to an amp on stage for monitoring.
Cool vid👌 But can you explain to me how i have to connect everything if i want to use the FX send?
I'd like to add this to my setup but will it work, just need advice..
BOSS NS-2 INPUT TO SEND > MOOER 017 MICRO PRE AMP > BOSS MT-2 > BOSS NS-2 RETURN THEN OUTPUT STRAIGHT TO A LINE 6 SPIDER IV. (WILL THE RADAR HELP ON PRODUCING A TIGHTER BITE FOR MY SETUP)
to tell you honestly, purpose of using the line 6 spider 4 is just like having it as a speaker.
can i place the radar last after the output from the ns 2 then go straight into the input of the spider 4? will that make any improvements? need advice pls. i hope you can go on through this. thanks!
This isn’t really for going into a guitar amp, it’s more for taking the signal from an amp or pedals to send to the PA or recording interface. Maybe try a Tubescreamer to tighten up the sound?
@@Chucksguitargeekery got it. Thankyou very much!
I'm hearing some bad occasional pop noises. Is that from the pedal?
No, that’s from the limiter in the video app I was using. I was still learning how to work in that app at the time.
How does it sound through headphones? I want it for quiet practice from my pedal board
It will sound the same as you heard on the video. The 1/4” out and the headphone out are both cab sim’d
@@allboutthemojo I wouldn’t use the Radar to put cab sims through your speaker, that usually never sounds right. But the effects loop on that amp is Series, so if you want to do silent headphone practice, you send the effects send to the Radar, without a signal going to the effects return the speaker should be silent. Then use the power amp sim since you’ll only be using your preamp on your amp.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Chuck , if I'm not using an amp , just using my pedalboard with the radar at the end of it and going into a speaker cabinet like orange 1x12 , will that work? Do I even need an amp?
WOW i never knew the pre amp would still work with stand by on!! THANK YOU! So i could use a marshall head by itself in standby with out a speaker or load box?
Hey Chuck! Great video. I have a question which would really put my mind to ease. I just bought a radar and I have a Marshall DSL1HR. I do not have a load box and i want to use the radar into the fx send and into my interface. My question is- If i have my speaker connected, along with the radar into the send, it will still carry the load right? I understand it is quite a noob question but i have just gotten my amp recently and i want to be extra sure about this. It is absolutely safe to use the radar into the send and into the interface with my speaker connected as the load, yes?
Awaiting your reply, thanks a lot and keep up the great work! :)
Thanks! So your amp has a series effects loop, that means if you send the signal of the preamp but have nothing in the return, the amp will be silent. But always have a speaker hooked up for the load. You could also try just keep it in standby mode too, in some amps the preamp will still work but the power amp isn’t on (but still keep the speaker hooked up)
Hi there! I have exactly the same rig, Marshall dsl1 which I am trying to connect to my sound interface through the Mooer Radar! I took the send from the dsl 1 straight into the radar and then the output from the radar into my sound interface and my guitar is of course plugged into the amp. However, that didn't work and I got a massive buzz sound. How did you manage to make it work for you? Thanks
Hi Chuck! I have a Marshall Origin 20 Combo, without a headphones out, and im using a 4 cable method. Sometimes i need to play in absolutly silence, and the radar seems to be a possible solution to this. Can i use it in 4 cable method? for example, in the return of the Marshall? Thanks a lot and sorry for my english.
You have a couple options here. Does the DI out mute the speaker output? If it does, then you can run that to the Radar. The DI out does have some cab sim, but you can use the EQ function in the Radar to fine tune. If the DI out doesn’t mute the speaker, then the effects loop will be your best bet. Use the effects send (if you have effects in the loop, put the Radar after those effects). That amp has a series effects loop, so if you don’t have anything plugged into the return the speaker will be silent. Then use the power amp simulation in the Radar and you’re good to go.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Very nice, thanks a lot! Im 99% sure that the DI out doesn’t mute the speaker, but the other solution sounds great! tnks again!
Let’s say I just wanted to practice guitar with headphones with no amp involved. Could I connect this to an evh 5150 pedal and my guitar with headphones or do I need more pedals involved. My blues jr doesn’t have a headphone jack
Yes, that will work. You’d turn on the Power Amp simulation, plus the EQ section works well so you can effectively mimic a really clean amp.
Can the radar be used with a solid state amp no effects loop just putting the amp on the clean channel?
No, you need some sort of line/instrument level output from your amp. Does it have a headphone out?
Yes it does
Can i just plug a pre amp to it and connect my headphones to it?
Yeah, that’s probably the best way to use it 👍. What kind of preamp?
@@Chucksguitargeekery micro dark?
coool! thanx
What about putting the pedal in the effects loop back into the return and then going out of load box and not use the radars power amp? Does that make sense?
It really depends on if your effects loop is series or parallel. This is meant to send a Mic’d cab sim to a full range PA or recording, not into a guitar speaker. Running a cab sim sound through a real cab just never sounds right. But, if your effects loop is parallel, meaning you can send the signal out but an unaffected signal still goes through the the power amp, then you can simply have the effects send going to the Radar and then send that signal to the PA and the sound coming out of your amp will be unaffected.
does it sound good without a preamp? I'm trying it by connecting it to the sound card but without preamp the sound of the guitar solos is not loaded with gain like when I use the amplifier. Am I wrong?
It would be like if you plugged straight into the effects return of a real amp. You’ll just get power amp and speaker sounds.
How do you connect to a compact P.A or an acoustic Marshall AS50D PA combo? Thx
Leroy Pakkiri you should be good going into any 1/4” instrument line in. If there’s only balanced line or XLR inputs, you’ll need to get a simple DI box to correct the impedance.
I didn’t know you could use the amp in standby mode with its effects loop. Will that work with my Orange Rocker 15?
I have not tried that amp, and the best information I can find is some amps allow this, it depends on the design and where the effects loop and standby switch are located in the circuit. I would just make sure to still have a speaker connected just in case. From what I’m reading though, the Rocker 15 has a series effects loop, so if you have a signal going out of the effects send, but nothing going into the effects return, there should be no sound going to the power amp and speaker.
But, just to reiterate, always have a speaker connected even if it’s silent, just in case.
@@Chucksguitargeekery got it. Thanks!
I have an Elevenrack that I run through the effects return of my Marshall DSL1000HR and 4X12 cab. Is there a way to use the Mooer Radar in this setup without a PC and/or powered monitors?
So are you trying to use the Radar to send to FOH Sound System and the Marshall as an on-stage monitor?
@@Chucksguitargeekery Correct. I'm trying to use the cab sims in the Radar through my Elevenrack, which is running through the effects return of my Marshall amp and cab like a preamp. The effects and amp models in the Elevenrack are great, but the cab sims suck. Luckily, the cab sims in the Elevenrack can be disabled, but I'd like to be able to use the Radar cab sims through the Elevenrack, which in turn could be heard through my amp and cab in a live situation.
I see there’s stereo outputs, I would send one to the amp and the other to the Radar, which could then be sent to front of house. The Radar is a stand-alone IR pedal, so you don’t have to bring a computer or anything.
@@michaelbarber1123 But also, I wouldn't run the Radar into the Marshall amp/cab, when you run a signal with guitar cabinet simulation through a guitar cabinet, it doesn't sound right. The IRs in the Radar are meant for full range PA speakers with horns and whatnot. But, if you want a direct signal from the Elevenrack to send to the PA without mic'ing your amp, then the Radar is the way to go. The amp will pretty much be for onstage volume/monitoring.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Luckily I figured out how to do it. Both my Marshall DSL100HR and MG15CFX have a 3.5mm audio input for plugging an mp3 player to play along with. I simply use a male to male 3.5mm cable that I run from the Radar into the amp's audio input and it works very much like an effects loop return. It overrides everything but the master volume on the amp and I plug my guitar into one of my pedals, which I then plug into to Radar. In this case I'm using a Biyang Metal End King distortion that has an amp simulator switch, into the Radar, then into the mp3 player input. Works perfectly and I can now get some amazing and brutal tones through my amp and cap (as well as the little practice amp) that are beyond anything I've ever heard before through both my Marshals at anywhere from bedroom levels to 100 watt tube roar.
mooer radar at the end of the pedals going to the effects send of the amp?
I didn’t try it that way, this is more of a power amp/speaker simulator, not a preamp. I don’t think it would work too well having speaker simulation going through a guitar speaker.
@@Chucksguitargeekery .. Thank you for the response.. Can i plug the radar with pedals in to the Input of the Amp? a newbie in this kind of set-up.. Oy any advice to use it live using an amp? Thank much!.
No problem, the point of this pedal is to have a cabinet-emulated sound of an amp for either playing through headphones or sending to a P.A. instead of micing the amp. If you want to use this in a live setting with your actual amp, it depends on the amp. If your amp has a parallel effects loop, you can send the preamp out to the Radar with the power amp simulation on, then send that to the P.A. for front of house sound. Or some amps have a direct out or headphone out of some sort, you can send that signal to the Radar, then from there to the P.A.
With a pedalboard, you’ll have to either have a stereo pedal at the end of the chain (maybe a chorus) or an ABY switch. Send one side of the signal to the Radar and then to the P.A. and the other side of the signal to your amp for on stage monitoring.
@@Chucksguitargeekery Thank you much mate!. very!. : ))
Not bright why ?
Radar input is stereo or mono ?? I don't understand this
GREAT VIDEO =D
The input is mono, yeah, most headphone outs are stereo. If you use a mono cable, it’ll only catch one of the tabs in the output and create a mono signal. The only thing is Headphone outputs are a lot hotter than a line signal, so you have to keep the volume pretty low, the input of the Radar can clip pretty easily.