1/1 updates- After watching my friend to play mavuika and testing her out in the trial ive found 1. her tap skill will not snapshot something like bennet(XL lives). 2. she will NOT consume the rest of the NSP in her gauge when she ults(kinda sucks) 3. using burst will grant u the obsidian codex buff even without skill(very nice too) 4. her ult does grant 10 nsp for the next rotation which means u only need 10 fs like what some comments did mention(actually huge). Overall, i think i voiced my opinion regarding pyro pretty fine with how i/some ppl wanted a benny/xl replacement. The main thing i was wrong about was how she would perform in combat without a natlan teamate, which she works ok overall as she basically gives herself 90/100nsp, though yes she is missing quite a bit of dmg as she wont be bursting with ~200nsp consumed. Im also glad I was wrong about obsidian codex too which works during her burst. In regards to her kit buffs not cinder set, it seems that yes, she can provide a decent buff with a natlan teamate. but without natlan teamate, again, she probably isnt providing a big buff as u are consuming ~100nsp to burst. cool unit and gl pulling everyone 12/17 update- from a comment by the youtuber antventure, it seems that mavuikas burst animation can trigger obsidian codex👍 also, i havent seen anyone talk about if casting mavuikas ult drains all her current nsp which i believe would be important to talk about. elo, just here to add a few things. (as of v1/2- will update if needed) -correction(she likely can use obsidian codex but not full uptime. my assumption for the video was that she wouldve finished consuming all her nsp by the time u swapped to her on field, which likely isnt the case and poses its own problems) so when u do swap to her before u burst, that point should trigger codex for 6 seconds- - First and foremost, as an on field dps, she NEEDS to use her skill first in the rotation. Her skill has a 15 second cool down and her on field dps after burst is 7 seconds. so yah, if u want to get her 80 stacks of FS for her next rotation, u gotta skill first. - I want to talk about her rotation without a natlan teamate a bit further cuz after a comment + more thinking i release it's not the worst for her support 1. going the support playstyle, assuming u got mavuika e, 2 supports stuff, mav burst, into dps. (when it is dps' dps time, IF they do basic attacks, they "in theory would generate FS for mav's next burst". as such, ur rotation actually wouldnt die IF they use basic attacks. if you however play like ganyu who doesnt use basics, it's a bit cooked. 2. now for the dps playstyle. remember, we are still missing 20 FS. in scenario a. IF mavuika can gain FS stacks for the next burst while on field, it actually lets her use basic attacks to lessen the requirement of 14 ba in a team with no natlan support. BUT you are now using BA instead of CA which i believe is a sizeable dmg loss according to stuff ive read. in scenario b. if she cant gain FS during her burst for her next one, yah still cooked ;-; 3. Her nightsoul off field should take 12 seconds to consume. Because many rotations dont take that long, this means for a support playstyle, you likely will not be able to burst in time without a natlan teamate as she likely will have only drained half her NSP which is an issue. as for main dps, this likely will also be an issue as she wouldnt have her full stacks. As of this moment, i do not know if using her burst will consume all her current NSP, which it currently does not explictly state. If it doesnt, that's also a big issue. if it does, then nice 4. something else that is important which i didnt mention but some comments have pointed out. She gains 10 nightsoul when doing her burst. We currently do not know for certain how this plays into her kit, whether it is used for the next burst aka she gets 90 NSP (which greatly eases non natlan rotations), or some other reason. - lastly, she starts with 200 FS on the first floor of the spiral abyss. just something to note :)
She gets and passively drains 10 FS when casting burst. She can actually trigger Codex without her skill by just bursting. Codex still isn't full uptime but it's still her bis for on-field with its 6s duration.
@@nicobiche It only states "After using this, Mavuika gains 10 Nightsoul points and enters the Nightsoul's Blessing state." So i dont believe it actually counts towards the burst, but i can be wrong. also, her burst shouldnt trigger codex as far as ik. the only way is if u swap though ur team and switch to mavuika before ur nsp drains. if this is the case, then it's not bad using codex but runs into another issue. If it takes a while to drain, now u have to use normal/charged attacks and wait till her NSP is drained before bursting
@@AlwaysThirstys as boring as it is, the childern yearn for the bennets >:). but yah, if they were to go the bennet/xl route, that would've stirred up its own controversy
I would love if mavuikas buff was a flat atk buff like bennyy's isntead of an elemental dmg bonus. Like yeah she would lose some synergy with 2 hydro dps (But does mualani and neuvilette really need any more rn?) That way she would actually elevate atk scaling characters and she could be used as an offensive benny replacment (No circle impact, but smaller buff, Whist benny has circle and healing)
Not to mention we already have a LOT of %dmg boosters rn. Plus, she could have used the cinder city set for damage bonus. Kazuha gives you dmg bonus, furina gives you dmg bonus, xilonen uses cinder city, ororon uses cinder city, neuvillette has built in hydro damage from one of his passives, pretty much every dps uses a %dmg bonus goblet. We have too many damage bonus sources, AND EXACTLY ONE FLAT ATTACK BOOSTER.
@@THEBEST-yi2rs I agree, but Mualani ins't too picky with pyro application. So you could still use mavuika with her even if she did't buff mualani directly. Instead you could give her Golden troupe and increase mavuikas personal damage, or give her cinder city and change xilonens Artifact set (Maybe to petra). She would still be a better pick for mualani over xiangling because Mavuika as a sub dps isn't reliant on Benny or ER. But with a flat atk buff mavuika would help out a ton more other units. especially older ones (Plus mualani already is the second strongest dps in the game. Other units need more support than her hh)
If she was a complete _sidegrade_ (not even an upgrade) to either; - Bennett, but without circle impact, or - Xiangling without energy problem (do what she does with skill rather than burst) then that would have made most of us very happy! (Personally I prefer Bennett alternative, but would be ok with Xiangling replacement as well) This is the biggest disappointment I've had since Dehya. If her kit stays as it is on release, I'm going to skip her and pull Citlali instead (who is likely to enhance many of the pyro dps I alreafy have).
So far pretty disappointed in her. I have no interest in a dps, only wanted a good support or sub. An Archon should work well with many teams and Characters not just Natlan Characters. Have been saving for her but unless things change….I will just keep saving.
@@gredem4799 yeah i'm thinking of pilling citlali for my wanderer adn arle as well, but lanyan is probably a decent budget version to her xD (And we get her for free--)
Completely agree... Still going to pull for her since she's an Archon, but like, why? All the pyro 5* are dps, we really didn't need another one, specially when Xiangling teams were/are already enough for clearing abyss or kill anything in general lol
You're totally and unfortunately right! For the first time in 4 years I am probably skipping a archon... Too many existing pyro DPSs and Arlecchino is incredibly strong and easy to play; not a good pyro applicator except XL, and we need another one; too much reliant on Natlan characters (and I don't like their design...); at the end she brings nothing new to the table except powercreeping other units. Better pulling for Citlali imo.
I'm kinda dissapointed that mavuika is a pure dps and restricted to have natlan chars in team. Even though his e skill has coordinated attacks, but that just makes her worst by not fully using her kit in that way. And her burst will just also do increase buff for herself, not for other parties😮💨. Compare Mavuika E skill to Raiden's coordinated attacks raiden gives burst dmg when having the eye storm. I'll just build pyro traveller anyways with hero cinders for sub dps and providing buff, pyro traveller is easy friendly character. And all of my primo will go to Citlali and Xilonen rerun. Im tired of seeing another pyro dps I'm already good with arle😮💨😮💨
@frgal1336 How exactly is she restrictive? She gets like 90 Nightsoul points back herself and then you have to do a few normal attacks with anyone and she has her burst back. Her buff is universal to everyone unlike Bennett.
@@JayDamaso78 i would say it's because her kit currently needs nightsoul points. ofc, she gets 80 pts by herself, but her dmg gained from getting to 200 is very high. It's like playing a raiden team and not bursting for 2 characters.
@@rickmel-q7m Rational i think actually had many teams but rational def was by far the best. but now that we've gotten so many characters, she now has rational, double hydro, hypercarry, overload :)
It def has and while i like it from a thematic perspective cuz of how phlogiston works, just like how mavuika powers up from allies, from a gameplay pov, not so much. i think the story has been great, though i actually think 5.0's archon was better than 5.1, contrary to popular opinion.
hate how her kit is so far and im hoping for MAJOR changes on monday, and she isnt an improvement for mualani since her best teams are double hydro with candance/yelan/furina and mavuika's skill cant keep up with two hydro units and also burn vape teams are terrible for hydro scrolls uptime so yeah she inst an improvement for lani teams as of v2 beta
As an archon she does have some support functions like all the other archons. On the other hand she also fulfills what every limited 5 star pyro character has been so far which is a on field main dps. Personally I think she has a good core foundation of supporting abilities but just need some changes imo. The way I would change them is 1. Attack buff to the whole party or active character like how her damage bonus works 2. Better pyro application for better synergy with more characters/teams 3. Make gaining “Fighting Spirit” easier and a bit less Natlan character reliant which makes gaining the damage bonus easier Even if they have to lower the numbers of her support abilities a bit, making her a better support is more beneficial for current and future team building (Also in case it needs to be stated by making her a better support that probably means lowering her dps numbers)
although she plays kind of the same as Raiden, she is way to clunky in comparison i think they should 50/50 both her dps playstyle and support playstyle cuz right now it's more like 75/25 i hoped better things for her kit design it just wasn't what I had anticipated but it is what it is
hopefully, if they strike the right balance, they could not creep anybody and actually make a character which fulfills both roles so everyone is happy. cuz yah rn, she def is more dps than support.
😂 people obviously gonna use her as main dps but anyway I am giving her only golden troupe set for support 😂😂. Keeping dps jobs for others which is more convenient instead bike attacks 😂. I don't care if I lose 50 or 60% of her true power cuz her raw power becomes joke 😂 after seeing bike attacks. Did I miss anything when she fought with capitano? I didn't see that God damn motorbike I swear 😅. Not for a sec. I really felt love when I saw her raw power battling with capitano but it was just headcanon or speculation I guess. Overall, we know it's genshin 😂😂 as expected.
i personally think they look cool as heck. After seeing the other Natlan characters and the other wacky stuff they have, i just think the power of phlogiston goes BRRRRR. Though i personally dont like her biker fit tbh, it actually makes sense seeing how it only takes animal hide to make leather.
@@bunny_the_lifeguard9789 oh yeah, I forgot about that helmet. Probably it has abyss corrosion resistance which Zhongli's shield fails to prevail. Lmao 🤣
I'm a relatively new player & don't have a main pyro DPS yet and I'll still pull for Arlecchino. Idc if Mavuika is better there's something called player preference and that bike gameplay looks absolutely goofy af. I don't want to be seen or see anyone doing that on my screen. Also there's the problem of her bike exploration lasting way shorter than other characters like Chasca, Kinich, Mualani, Xilonen. Like it's too short for exploration and it's gonna be even worse outside Natlan. I don't want a character like that. She's trying to be a lot of things all at once and not being good at either. So I would rather take a stable character like Neuvilette and Arlecchino for DPS, Furina and Kazuha etc for Support, Zhongli for Shield, Chasca Wanderer for exploration, Bennett Jean for healing and so on. Don't need a jack of all and master of none.
One major issue with Mavuika is in burning comps. Cinder City set needs the holder to proc the reactions to get the buffs. And if the enemy is burning already, if they cinder city holder is a pyro unit, it'll never proc the buff because it's just applying pyro on pyro and not on dendro. Basically burning teams need a dendro natlan support to hold cinder city instead and we currently have none lol Kinich needs to basically swap to burgeon teams instead to even use Mavuika with cinder city
As a archon collector, She is probably going to be the only one I bench right after getting her. Instead of randomly pulling out a bike , they should have stuck to her support kit shown in the archon quests, like her skill / burst being the ode of resurrection for off field BUFFS and a stance change to punching as she seems to love to do...... Frankly support would sell more especially since Arle is literally in the next half banner and you know how popular she is.
I cant really explain it but it feels like natlan should’ve felt peak from some standpoint but they made so many designing mistakes in every category that at the end theres just too many of them and now the whole region feels lack luster
I agree...when Fontaine came..the introduction was peak..the lore was peak...world quest was peak...region was peak...i just don't feel attached to natlan the way I did for other regions even though natlan was the most mysterious region prior to release
I think to fix the codex issue she should drain nightsoul in her burst AND constantly refill it so it’s essentially the same as it is now but less clunky.
not really, just keep the drain active while removing the cost of her attacks the uptime won't make a difference since most of her damage is in the burst duration anyway, or reduce the drain to 1/s if people really need the duration bonus for some reason
@@rickmel-q7m fr, i recall zajef saying that if u use Mav in a Kinich team, you'd be better off just DPSing Mav rather than kinich bc she just powercreeps them all💀
All they really had to do was just make her have effectively 2 ults if you tap her skill she does a big burst of dmg and then buffs the team whether thats dmg bonus or atk then her hold skill will be the same but her ult will now be something equivalent to xiao itto or cynos ult and she'll enter a big dps mode and then make her ult refresh her nightsoul point and lasts the duration of those nightsoul points
At the very least, normal arks should guarantee the 100 cost burst, while the higher power 200 cost is reserved for natlan characters. I really don’t like how restrictive the current fighting spirit mechanics restrict her to natlan characters
Mavuikas own mechanics can get her to 80 pts of fighting spirit, so any off type of fast NA fighter should easily get the remaining 20 pts. Her plus xilonen plus normals should get you to 200.
@@ravissary79 i showed a demonstration in the 8:40 section and the main issue when not using a non natlan character is how it deletes ur buffs. while in theory, ex polearm users could hit many times, 10-14 ish hits on their turn will still take a few seconds
I'm also super disappointed as a ganyu main. Her slow application and the difficulty of charging her burst to get more damage buffs is. I don't expect a significant improvement if any at all over xiangling+bennett, and the setup for each rotation will get more convoluted. Really praying hard for changes
a plus of mavuika with ganyu is that you don’t have to get close to opponents while shooting to get pyro application. mavuika’s pyro application is ranged
With mavuika you don't have to build energy on her and she'll be going good off field damage, Ganyu doesn't apply cryo fast enough for not melting to be an issue.
I'm just genuinely surprised that we only have one Flat ATK buffer which is Bennett(and a healer as a bonus). We have so many DMG buffers such as Kazuha, Furina and now Natlan characters with Nightsoul can just use Cinder Scroll to get the effect. Mavuika being another Pyro DPS and a DMG buffer(with her passive using the Burst and access to Cinder Scroll) with Bennett as the only main staple for ATK scaling buff and another partner for him is ridiculous.
atm i'd rather c6 Arlecchino over pulling for mavuika. over all, all dps characters of natlan haven't convinced me so far. smh im still stuck in the fontaine meta
As a Ganyu lover the thing I wanted the most out of her was for her to have insane levels of pyro application so it is extremely easy to melt everything. What Ganyu needed the most out of a pyro applier is a pyro applier that has enough off field pyro that she can burst without having the pyro gauge removed.
this is toeing the line of exodia bs. im not getting a character that requires certain teammates just to function. one of my favorite things to do USED TO BE seeing what teams combinations i could use to clear content, but they make more and more restrictions on teams. i have not, and will not play imaginarium theatre because of this bs. let me use the characters i want, this is ridiculous. what's the point of pulling for characters if i cant use them. easy skip.
Why don't we get a 2nd Bennett? Simple. They want you to pull for Signature Weapons simply for the higher Base ATK, and at the same time increasing the value of ATK%. With the amount of DMG% buff we have these days, ATK Goblet might even be the play now. They lowered the Weapon Banner's Fate Points to 1 because they knew this would happen. *Changes for Mavuika that I want to see:* 1. Make the A1 buff Partywide instead of just for herself. 2. Make her A4 capped at 100 Fighting Spirit, and it only decays when you have less than 100. (If you have more than 100 points, it will stay at 50%). This way non-Natlan teams won't be completely garbage. 3. *LOWER HER MULTIPLIERS* and make it so that her Burst also buffs her off-field DMG.
i just think they don’t want bennet 2 cuz if you put bennet + bennet 2, that’s too many bennets xd honestly, if they make her an on field driver for pryo rather then the “main” dps, that’s be pretty interesting. lower her multipliers a bit and lean into support a bit more
I don’t think the higher base attack of recent signature weapons means that Bennett 2 won’t happen, I think what it means is if we do get Bennett Imbibitor Lunae he will be ATK% based. Bennett’s attack buff is roughly 100% if you convert it to Atk% with the average sig, I could see Bennett Pro Max having an attack buff on that same level, but make it team wide without Circle Impact and the character would sell.
that "theory" falls flat when you realize that most characters that use bennet get huge benefits from their signatures (raiden, arlechino, wrio, kinich, etc)
I don't want her to be a dps, i want her to be a debuffer. Like her ult will slash and make a field that apply pyro that deals damage every 2.5 seconds based on 10% of the enemies hp ( This skill damage has 100 crit rate and 150 crit damage regardless of build and will not be affected by current crit stats), traps them in the field, decrease movement speed, return 100% of the damage taken by the active character (Still your character will receive damage), enemies in the field will take 35% more damage, and resurrects if someone in the party dies. Her weapon would have ER. And can decrease enemies resistance by 15% for all elements but if a teammate dies she will recover energy.
I wonder if they over-tuned her numbers to test what she will be like with a future Bennett Imbibitor Lunae. This is also why I think Chiori could snapshot in her beta, so people could test her with Benny’s buff from off field (I think Bennett 2 will give their buff team-wide). That’s just my conspiracy theory though, I think they are scared to release a Bennett Pro Max since Benny warps the power of attack scalers so much on his own.
oh good point actually, though i swear they could test stuff with their own private servers, though i have 0 idea how any of it works tbh. like can just change stuff willy nilly? honestly, if they made a bennet sidegrade which didnt buff as much but provided similar utility AND no circle impact, itd take it
I don't even need a Benny pro max. I just need a Bennett with no circle impact, that's all. Hell, I'll be okay if they take away the healing. Not creating a single Pyro sub DPS in this game after Xianling has been one of the stupidest decisions Hoyo has ever made in regards to a whole ãss element, not just Mavuika. I don't care if Pyro characters are straightforward because their archon is straightforward. I want a Pyro off-fielder that's an alternative to Bennett-Xianling. Is that too much to ask?
@@RKNancy Yes, that's too much to ask. Here's your another Pyro Main dps. 6.0 :- here's your another Hydro catalyst user, here's your another character that doesn't make sense in game. Here's another 5 STAR character totally irrelevant to story.
tbh i think mavuikas biggest issue is that she is JUST a pyro sub dps. furina was a hydro sub dps, but with incredibly unique mechanics that pushed healing into the meta. imagine now that instead we never got the furina with hp drain or healing buffs, and she was literally just a stronger yelan with a tacked on "all fontaine characters get a 20% dmg buff when used with this character). super boring, and i dont think any amount of buffs to mavuikas kit will save her from her terrible game design. i'm hoping ifa from the flower-feather clan, who looks like a pyro character, will be a way more impressive pyro character. also possibly xbalanque, since if you played the new area it sounds like he'll be a playable character.
while i would agree how furina had a rly thought out kit, i want to say mavuika first and foremost is a main on field dps which is apparent by her burst. But she can be used off field. but yah, her off field doesn't really bring anything special to the table which is honestly fine as it doesnt need to, seeing how it is just the side part of her kit
@@yun3_ id say it still does provide at least something "special", just not special enough for an archon. for example, yelan applies less hydro than xingqiu but this is actually a really better option for quickbloom teams, or good for teams that already need 2 hydro's anyways. mavuika might be in a similar boat, what if you could use a arlechinno - xingqiu - xilonen - mavuika team and try to vaporize both arlechinno's and mavuika's slower pyro sub dps at once? still, i think mavuika woulda been cooler if she was "more" than a pyro dps and sub dps, since rn she doesnt really provide anything archon-level changing ti the game. like, what if instead of mavuikas current burst and dmg buff, she would make quickswap teams "meta" by providing a absolutely huge atk buff on all of your party members that only activates once you on-field them, but also decays as you use them. it would make way more sense for mavuika too, since she herself is a dps youd quickswap into. itd make weird quadruple on-fielder teams like ganyu - arlechinno - ayato - mavuika be meta. I think its also way more fitting fir mavuika too as the archon of "war", to make litera quadruple on-fielder teams meta but oh well, mavuikas kit isnt as game changing as i wanted it to be, but she still looks fun
@@yun3_ its just very small increase for the prce of 75-150 pulls .... which could give u citlali or other insane support / constealation for mualani which is WAY bigger dps increase than copes and dreams
her skill summon a shapeshifting weapon (and the tap e is basically an artillery platform). while we don't know why she shaped it like a bike she is aware of it being out of place in the skill flavor text
Yes, but how good it would've been is she had a normal burst instead of this Foreign-to-game-Spirit bs. I mean whole game revolves around elemental energy lmao.
To me it really sucks she depends on Nightsoul and Natlan characters. I started in 1.0 and took a break through the entirety of 4.0 up until 5.2 now. Was hoping she’s have a bigger gain on application and support, but rip. I guess I’ll go for Citlali instead.
With regards to the Codex set, they can code her so that she does lose NSP in her burst, but the amount she loses is zero. That would trigger the 4pc set bonus without draining any of her points. This is similar to how Arlecchino works with on-heal effects, like Chevreuse C6. She still counts as being "healed" by other characters, but the ammount she is healed is 0. This would be such a simple fix. However, it's possible that she's meant to go with an upcoming artifact set, maybe even one that will make her kit make more sense in some way. Honestly who the f knows with Hoyo.
according to a commenter, they said that she drains the 10 FS/NSP during her burst which does trigger codex. They said they found out due to private server stuff but we ofc just gotta take that with a grain of salt. this reminds me of a weird interaction in hsr with something with lingsha e1 iirc where there is a -0% def shred but it still counts as a debuff
Why did they make my girl a pyro DPS when we got my girl Arle just a few months ago, who is already cracked AND is coming back T.T Guess ill try for Citlali, i dont have Zhongli and she seems a nice cryo support as well.
@@supernieva2419 Like Mavuika doesnt have the Nightsoul point mechanic, right? And how is Arle mechanic uncomfortable? Press E, wait 5s (5 seconds that you spend in your other party member's rotation anyways) then press charged attack and beat people, how is that any different from Mavuika who uses her party members skills, press E and beat people? Nightsoul point mechanic is even more uncomfortable cause it restricts your party to have someone from Natlan who can keep her points up, and if you dont youre losing uptime with Mavuika, so Arle is literally much more comfortable and less restrictive than her, specially if you have Chevreuse which opens overload teams for her, but if you dont then she also works with vape teams anyways. All 5* Pyro characters have been DPS. Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Arlecchino and now Mavuika? Thats shit. Give us a replacement for Xiangling already ffs.
@@androidgames1602 Thats fair, but she gets elemental damage reduction from one of her talents and her R heals a lot, so me personally i never had any problems with her.
@@bunny_the_lifeguard9789Meanwhile, you get CN players complaining that HoYo only listens to global... Truth is, HoYo only listens to their bottom line and the CCP. That's it.
I might be one of the few people happy that she's DPS focused character since I've been waiting to replace my Hu Tao since 1.3... That said, I totally understand people wanting her to be a well rounded character like the other Archons.
I've replaced my Hu Tao with Arlecchino and also have a C6 Diluc, so I was looking forward to a solid pyro support. I expect her to be similar to Raiden - very hyped at launch, but eventually forgotten as a hypercarry
Great video, 100% agree, I fully expected her to be the support Mualani needs since Xiangling struggles with energy so much and also possibly an oportunity for some cryo characters to become a bit more relevant again. Instead we're getting yet another pyro dps. I just got c1 for my hu tao, and i have arlecchino, i dont need another one. Its just unfortunate, hopefully they improve her buffing capabilities a bit. Even if she is an ok support for other natlan dps' shes so strong that if you have her youre better off just playing her as a main dps and kick your kinich out of the team 😂
6:05 I personally use Dehya with my Mualani, as Dehya’s skill is just barely fast enough for Mualani to not miss any vapes. This removes the need to have a battery for anyone in the team, as my flex slot is Mona (who has basically 0 Hydro application) and Mona doesn’t always need to burst on every rotation.
@@yun3_ C0, my rotation puts Dehya right before Mualani; Xilonen EQ (I end up using Xilonen’s burst every other rotation on average), Mona Q (if available), Dehya E (twice if I used Mona’s Q, to cancel her Hydro), and then Mualani E shenanigans (I have C1 Mualani so her initial E hit is stronger than her Q) It happens that, in this specific setup, Dehya’s Pyro applies after Mualani does damage, so as long as I have Pyro when I swap to Mualani, the Pyro stays for the entire rotation. Dehya’s E ends while I’m getting the three stacks for the final NA from Mualani’s nightsoul state, but it doesn’t really matter since the Pyro aura sticks around long enough anyways. Mavuika still is a massive upgrade, since Dehya’s kit falls apart when applied to more than 1 target. Even 2 targets results in Mualani’s damage falling off a cliff on the second target. Luckily the specific Dehya I lost to was on Hu Tao’s most recent banner, and puts me in a position where I have enough pulls to *guarantee* Mavuika
Its still in beta so things can change and always remember that hoyo dev has information we do not know of( future units and new system like how yea and kuki were released in 2.x while being designed with dendro in mind)
yah, rly hoping v3 comes with some solutions to make her a bit more flexible outside of using natlan teammates. besides that, i think shes fine tbh. and the codex issue ofc
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 maybe. I personally hope it's the physical and cryo revival dam, natlan actually goes out of its way to kick physical while it's down lol
I am still going for Mavuika surprisingly I haven't pulled for any Pyro DPS since I have C6 Xiangling. I was contemplating to go for Arlecchino after Mavuika's first run. But since Mavuika is a DPS there isn't a need for me to pull for Arlecchino
@@Gaurang_Karande oh yeah if your going for dps Mavuika your definitely not gonna regret it she is the strongest by far as long as u have Xilonen to burst consistently of course
I started in 3.7. I never did get any pyro dps. I missed arle first time around. Then was saving to pull for both of em this time around but since mavuika is meant to be quite strong, I’m hoping to get her c2. Unless they change her kit fundamentally and she’s weaker than I’ll go for both of em again haha
I am happy that she is a dps. As a new genshin player, who just started playing for the first time, I don't have any good dps. What can be better than having an archon as a dps which first for genshin!
Im surprised that Mavuika doesn't generate night soul for the team. Imagine if she could allow enable non Natlan characters to effectively use OC and Cinder like Furina does with Marechausse. For Natlan characters she'd give them a bit more Nightsoul for combat but could help battery exploration abilities outside of Natlan. Heres hoping the next revisions make her more universal.
@@danieliacomi5411 Yes, it is. I saw lots of comments on TH-cam, TikTok, Facebook, and other platforms. People hate Mavuika because of her design, her motorcycle, and her kit. They don't like her design because they think it doesn't suit her, and they say the motorcycle doesn't make sense. That's what they're saying not me. I like mavuika
@@jatyfd8445just like me.I prefer to stay neutral. I'm not siding with anyone. If I like a character, I’ll pull for them. For example, Chasca has many haters because of her design, especially her pants (I kinda agree tho-it does feel weird 🙃). But I’m still pulling for her at Constellation 4 along with her signature weapon because I like her
She could have her Ult gives every party members a Night Soul Blessing state for (X) duration while buff (X%) of dmg when in Night Soul Blessing State, while her Skill is like an off field pyro dmg and application for every (X) seconds for (X) duration.
I like her, saved around 280+ pulls currently for her and citlali! I'm thinking of pairing her with Xilonen and Citlali with her being the main dps. Ps: The place is in Mihoyo HQ Shanghai, China, I just took a pic beside the anemo slime two weeks ago hahahaha😂
I have no problem her being a DPS even, but being a DPS, while also being a niche as fuck unit that leaning TOO HARD on Natlan Roster, if you're not playing her with Natlan roster you're basically running a marathon while cutting off both of your legs. Even worse, having bad Pyro application while also providing nothing else. The ONLY thing she has, is damage, and that shit is very easy to powercreep, this unit will not last long. Though I know her damage will be a bit relevant and taking longer to powercreep since the number already big, but holy fuck, this design is so ass
Watched the whole video, basically agree with everything said. Main DPS wanted will be feasting but all of us without Xilonen will be pulling for her on the rerun I guess 😂 I saw someone else’s comment about changing her burst to better work with non natlan teams, amazing idea. Also like the video idea to make her work with codex, def needed. Overall, still disappointed in another pyro main DPS since I’m now going to have like 8 on my account? Pain 😂😅 Great video as always!
like those without xilonen ofc can make it work by pulling citlali, but dang, that's A LOT of patches to wait for to make he feel rly gud. im sitting at 5/8 limited characters being dps' lol. but ty for tuning in as usual
Honestly if they buff her support capabilities and off field dps more then i'm sure people will be happy. Like change how her A1 instead of buffing her 35% atk they can change into buffing the entire team. Just this alone will buff both her dmg and her entire team dmg making her support capability much higher. 2nd they can just make her A2 buff like usual but not restricted to how much fighting spirit she need to consume. The rest is like what u said her skill interval into probably 1.5 per second, and make her ulti can abuse codex. With this instead of being on field dps. She will be off field, support and on field dps. Basically master of all classes.
I want the Pyro Archon as a DPS and very happy shes gonna be a powerful one. Im a person who collecting all Natlan characters and this is my favorite nation. I understand people want a support but I hope its a different character other than the Archon.
Looking at the previous archons (Furina/Mavuika), I think it’s safe to assume that the Cryo Arhon will have an unique mechanic complementary to Snezshnaya’s unique mechanic. Furina works well with most Fontaine characters bcs. of the HP change & Pneuma n Ousia but also allows the battle mechanic to work with older characters (HP drain kit) Mavuika’s kit works well with Natlan and older characters (Nightsoul point and Battle Points) Cryo Archon and Snezshnaya characters will have an unique ability (maybe smth like a Follow-up attack or QTE ) and the Tsaristsa will allow that mechanic to work on older characters
IMO , I think the QTE mechanic would be a good idea since it’s highly versatile. The QTE mechanic should work like this : There are 3 conditions in which the QTE is triggered - When dealing Crit Hit - Using CA/Skill/Burst - Debuff applied Snezshnaya characters will follow one of these rules and their QTE depends on their element and the QTE has a cooldown - Pyro : deals damage - Hydro : heals characters - Electro: energy gained - Geo : gain shield - Anemo : small vortex created - Cryo : Enemy Physical/Cryo res. is decreased . - Dendro : shoots sprouts taht deal apply the element itself . Ofc. the QTE damage should be relatively minor and my idea is that 5 stars have a unique QTE triggered by a given condition of their kit which will allow for more flexibility and 4 stars still follow the aforementioned rules
I honestly fail to see the issue here. I wanted her most of all to be an alternative to XL+Bennet, and that's exactly what she is. She deals decent damage off-field while providing useful pyro application and she also buffs the party, even more so on the scroll set. I never wanted or expected her to match or even power creep the two of them on a single team slot. That'd be crazy considering how busted they are individually, and especially as a duo. If anything she looks to be a pretty decent pyro Furina who doesn't need a healer, but maybe want's another Natlan character instead. And she has an alternative playstyle that might actually end up seeing play, unlike Furina's healing mode.
good points. her pyro app is enough in some cases and the scroll set is def a really nice addition to her off field playstyle. i think it's a nice comparison to furina with how they are restricted in some way. IG the main thing is how restrictive say natlan characters are to say healers
even as someone that plays kinich emilie burning, i cant justify getting mavuika since thats my only team i could run her in, and xiangling is already doing a lot of personal damage and applicatin alone to where mavuika wouldnt buff my team enough (plus squeezing her onfield dps into a kinich team would be kind of clunky). got my guaranteed ready for citlali 🙏🙏
I too would love to see Mavuika's tap skill hit time decreased from 2.0 seconds to 1.5 seconds. I didn't even think about Obsidian codex 4 set issue with her burst as it doesn't consume nightsoul. The other thing I am curious about as we already know she does not use energy, will she still make energy particles for the team? If she doesn't that could put a huge strain on partry energy just like what Noelle does on her teams.
she does thankfully. generates 5 particles from starting her skill just like arle iirc :) Though i dunno if her subsequent tap skills will generate (i assume no tho)
I hate xiangling, 350 Energy isn't enough to burst and if you put Bennett with 280 Energy. She might possible to burst. Most common things I hate xiangling instead build her up for DMG.
C1 it is for support Mavuika. I was worried there was no way to get full uptime on her skill but C1 solves this, also I can play her with no Natland characters with C1. The rest of the cons seem more for DPS playstyle. In a way it saves me trying to go for C6 (I have 700wishes) and go for cons of someone else (and her C6 is not game changing like Furina). I''l use scroll set even if Xilonen has it to buff more elements. I plan to use her in this team : Emilie C1 Mavuika C1(Replaces DeyhaC3) .Tap skill+burst when it's available. FLEX (off-field sub-dps or shield) FurinaC6(ousia healing mode) or XilonenC0R1 (Probably Xilonen is better here) The main advantage over Deyha is that her skill follows the player and doesn't need repositioning.
This video pointed out all my concerns about Mavuika. Currently I main Mualani, got her c2 r1 and she became my favorite character in the game. I want to have her best team possible and judging everything we know so far about the pyro archon I really dont know If shes really that important to reach that set goal, shes a dps not a buffer, is it worth it to pull simply for her pyro aplication? I heard that Citlali will buff Pyro and Hydro, will she be more value for my Mualani team than the archon? I'm really considering going for c6 Mualani in the future thats how much I like her, same goes for Xilonen C2, so I'll need every primo available and not pull for the wrong units.
if u have citlali, bc she has cryo application off field, you need good pyro application to remove the aura. i dunno if mavuika can do it rn but we'll just have to see. if not 👩🍳👩🍳👩🍳
She looks really cool n badass but I have zero room for another pyro dps, Giving my actual pyro dps new melt teams with Citlali seems way more interesting so I guess I will get Mavuika for the collection when she reruns around banners I dont care about.
I feel like the other equation missing is a dedicated artifact set for off-field Mauvika since her kit basically cannot utilize Cinder City as much as say Xilonen, Kachina or Ororon. Obsidian Codex works since she plays like every other Natlan DPS character, but there is not much else.
Everyone in this comment section who said they won't pull for her because she's a DPS will pull for her on day 1 😂 The temptation is too big for them to skip. I foresaw this miles away.
Sad that her off-field pyro application isn't as good as Xiangling. I'll probably still get her since I only really want her for Mualani. That way my Xiangling can go back to her rightful place, Raiden National.
Agreed. I'm a big fan of support and off-field characters in general, and was hoping for a pyro applier to maybe one day be able to turn my Mona into a better dps. And tbf the game also just needs one, it's ridiculous that Xiangling is still the only option and has a lot of her potential locked behind her c4. Instead we get an archon who will seemingly be difficult to incorporate in a team, very restrictive on other party members and kinda need c1, and another on-field dps character. Who needs another on-field dps? I'm finding it hard to even spend primogems at this point, because many characters take well over a year to rerun and with only two banners at a time, there's hardly anyone but on-field dps to pull. I'm also concerned about the rate at which powercreep is happening lately. I've seen so many games I once loved being destroyed for short-term capitalistic greed, and genshin's recent development feels eerily familiar. I love genshin a lot, it's basically the only game I play. But I've genuinely almost lost hope already. We've got strong powercreep, oversexualization of female characters, and basically the entire English community knows what a de-esser plugin is by now, yet the voice-over somehow gets worse every patch instead of better
honestly, i think only in natlan had there been pwr cree imo. natlan imo has been pretty balanced so far for all 3 dps’. i think genshin actually has done a great job in regards to pwr creep. though spiral abyss is getting harder and harder, it is still soo impressive in my eyes that 1.x and 2.x characters are still relevant. when we go to HSR, ehhh, not good imo. i didnt even know a de essee plugin even existed. i personally love the english dub. i think the inly character that ive disliked is actually ororon, just cuz he sounds like how i would sound when im lying xd
Me too! Triple crowned Mona main here. I'm currently trying to find a team where she can vape but also be on field, which feels like an impossible search lol. As of now the best team in terms of damage and fun factor is to just put Mona on a burning team and have her off field. Still satisfying to play, but shes not the center stage! I could theoretically replace lyney (or literally any other pyro dps) with Mauvika, but shed be so much more flexible if she leaned much more in the hybrid applicator/damage dealer instead :( (PS I was wondering if you've found any fun teams I could try out with Mona? I feel like I'm running out of ideas)
@@maddie9117 I can't say that I've found a team yet, but I have at least been pursuing one for the last couple of months. Though I'm going in a different direction, with plunge attacks being the main idea, and idk if it will work. Plunge vape definetely won't work as of now due to the lack of pyro appliers, so it might end up being a very weak mono hydro team. I'm mainly making it for fun because I enjoy Mona's gameplay. Right now I'm leaning towards Kachina, Mona, Xianyun, Furina. No clue if that even works or if it'll be fun, but I can't test it until Xianyun gets a rerun. Bennett or Xilonen would also be better than Kachina most likely, I just like her more. And if it ends up being abyss-worthy somehow, I'll need Bennett on the other team
Honestly, with how she's going, I am tempted to use either Crimson witch of flames or Golden Troupe on her and call it a day. I am not even motivated to farm the natlan artifacts for her. And I am more interested in getting her claymore for Diluc, which is just absurd. It's like the game devs is trying screw us over but failing miserably at it.
Firstly, for ayato, childe and neuvillette they rarely vape anyway and are usually reverse vape drivers when used with xiangling and can occasionally get a foward vape, ayaka doesn't have bennett in her best team and doesn't want xiangling. Secondly there is no reason to use xianglings burst over mavuikas e, she needs A LOT of energy if you don't use bennett (who is getting phased out by hp scaling characters, xilonen and furina), which automatically makes mavuikas do more damage, sure it doesn't last as long but it'll do more than xianglings burst without bennett considering that you can't build her as a good sub dps without him (unless you spend 20 years in the emblem domain ig). As for her burst yes it is kinda just alright at best, but I still think she replaces xiangling easily.
for childe, it's 50/50 who gets the vape i would say. ik neuv and ayato generally aren't in vape teams. i wont speak on ayato but the main reason why neuv isnt imo is bc of bennet. rn, his best team would be neuv, xilo, kazu, furina. if bennet instead gave dmg% or hp rather than attack, I would have no doubt that many would instead use neuv in vape teams. not being able to benifit from benifit sucks. i believe it's debateable what ayaka's best team is , whether ayaka, xilonen, kazu, furina or melt with ayaka, kazu/xilo, benny, xl. both are just fine imo and yes. if u need pryo but cant use bennet, mavuika would be good for u like a mualani. if u need pyro and need atk, good ol reliable benny xl.
as a new player from 5.0 im between father's damage and easier gameplay and mavuika's cool design, exploration and dps capabilities i also plan to run her with granny to get more out of her burst
if i use her in neuvi team as a support,neuvillete xilolen kazuha mavuika,if i use her skill at the first i dont think i'm able to give all my buffs to hydro,i hope explain it right
ur right. that is a bit rough cuz u really want mavuika to go first but u still need to swirl hydro and what not. I THINK u can go like mavuika skill, neuvi skill burst(applies hydro & removes pryo), kazu skill ult(swirls hydro ideally), xilonen skills, (either burst with mavuika or straight to dps)
I've been saving for Mavuika, but I might just go for Citliai instead. Hopefully to send a message to mihoyo with lower revenue from her banner and because I already have every Pyro dps released so far...
What I'm most annoyed about is that she doesn't work with the archon team, so far Raiden, Nahida and Furina have been wonderful for the team, but Mavuika doesn't seem to add anything or even work with them as her nightsoul requirements make her clunky to play
I use Mualani, Xilonen, Kazuha, and Xiangling I battery my Xiangling with 270% er and double fav from Xilonen and Xiangling. Yes, I suffer with not enough energy.
Xiangling issue is severe, to the point I put all stats in ER (I reach 350 Energy but still not enough) My team Maulani, Xilonen, Zhongli and Xiangling. I want to replace xiangling in all team, her energy is annoying.
Her energy is the reason why I didn't build her early in game ..but then I had to because so many teams I wanted to build needed her because she's the sole off field Pyro
Im very happy that she is dps my account lack's dps 210 pulls for nuve , mav, and clorinde , i was considering arle before knowing mav is dps now i skipping her with no regrets
There already is a pyro dps that is bonkers strong, and thats Arlechinno. Its cool that they gonna make the archon a pyro dps, however they should make her atleast have better support functions as well and less restrictive
i actually dont mind seeing how they have even more advanced stuff in genshin. a box with 2 wheels powered by some ancient power source aint too surprising to me ;)
It can just depending on how you play. you can just basic attack which would send out the rain swords, but as the other comments said, her CA playstyle will likely be better. BUT, you can use xq if u wanted to :)
I was hoping that her burst will summon a large AOE field that constantly deals dmg at an interval of 0.5 seconds. So that she will be a good pyro applicator😢😢
I was really hoping to replace Xiangling and Bennet for a 5* version, kinda disappointed on her being a main dps, specially after Arlechino was released a few patches ago and now she seems to power creep her 😢
Condolences for those people your sacrifice is must needed, Hoyoverse give us time to pull Xilonen but yeah their just skip it. Xilonen a character who doesn't receive any nerfed.
1/1 updates- After watching my friend to play mavuika and testing her out in the trial ive found 1. her tap skill will not snapshot something like bennet(XL lives). 2. she will NOT consume the rest of the NSP in her gauge when she ults(kinda sucks) 3. using burst will grant u the obsidian codex buff even without skill(very nice too) 4. her ult does grant 10 nsp for the next rotation which means u only need 10 fs like what some comments did mention(actually huge). Overall, i think i voiced my opinion regarding pyro pretty fine with how i/some ppl wanted a benny/xl replacement. The main thing i was wrong about was how she would perform in combat without a natlan teamate, which she works ok overall as she basically gives herself 90/100nsp, though yes she is missing quite a bit of dmg as she wont be bursting with ~200nsp consumed. Im also glad I was wrong about obsidian codex too which works during her burst. In regards to her kit buffs not cinder set, it seems that yes, she can provide a decent buff with a natlan teamate. but without natlan teamate, again, she probably isnt providing a big buff as u are consuming ~100nsp to burst. cool unit and gl pulling everyone
12/17 update- from a comment by the youtuber antventure, it seems that mavuikas burst animation can trigger obsidian codex👍 also, i havent seen anyone talk about if casting mavuikas ult drains all her current nsp which i believe would be important to talk about.
elo, just here to add a few things. (as of v1/2- will update if needed)
-correction(she likely can use obsidian codex but not full uptime. my assumption for the video was that she wouldve finished consuming all her nsp by the time u swapped to her on field, which likely isnt the case and poses its own problems) so when u do swap to her before u burst, that point should trigger codex for 6 seconds-
- First and foremost, as an on field dps, she NEEDS to use her skill first in the rotation. Her skill has a 15 second cool down and her on field dps after burst is 7 seconds. so yah, if u want to get her 80 stacks of FS for her next rotation, u gotta skill first.
- I want to talk about her rotation without a natlan teamate a bit further cuz after a comment + more thinking i release it's not the worst for her support
1. going the support playstyle, assuming u got mavuika e, 2 supports stuff, mav burst, into dps. (when it is dps' dps time, IF they do basic attacks, they "in theory would generate FS for mav's next burst". as such, ur rotation actually wouldnt die IF they use basic attacks. if you however play like ganyu who doesnt use basics, it's a bit cooked.
2. now for the dps playstyle. remember, we are still missing 20 FS. in scenario a. IF mavuika can gain FS stacks for the next burst while on field, it actually lets her use basic attacks to lessen the requirement of 14 ba in a team with no natlan support. BUT you are now using BA instead of CA which i believe is a sizeable dmg loss according to stuff ive read. in scenario b. if she cant gain FS during her burst for her next one, yah still cooked ;-;
3. Her nightsoul off field should take 12 seconds to consume. Because many rotations dont take that long, this means for a support playstyle, you likely will not be able to burst in time without a natlan teamate as she likely will have only drained half her NSP which is an issue. as for main dps, this likely will also be an issue as she wouldnt have her full stacks. As of this moment, i do not know if using her burst will consume all her current NSP, which it currently does not explictly state. If it doesnt, that's also a big issue. if it does, then nice
4. something else that is important which i didnt mention but some comments have pointed out. She gains 10 nightsoul when doing her burst. We currently do not know for certain how this plays into her kit, whether it is used for the next burst aka she gets 90 NSP (which greatly eases non natlan rotations), or some other reason.
- lastly, she starts with 200 FS on the first floor of the spiral abyss. just something to note :)
She gets and passively drains 10 FS when casting burst. She can actually trigger Codex without her skill by just bursting. Codex still isn't full uptime but it's still her bis for on-field with its 6s duration.
@@nicobiche It only states "After using this, Mavuika gains 10 Nightsoul points and enters the Nightsoul's Blessing state." So i dont believe it actually counts towards the burst, but i can be wrong.
also, her burst shouldnt trigger codex as far as ik. the only way is if u swap though ur team and switch to mavuika before ur nsp drains. if this is the case, then it's not bad using codex but runs into another issue. If it takes a while to drain, now u have to use normal/charged attacks and wait till her NSP is drained before bursting
@yun3_ I wasn't speculating about the 10 FS, this is info from ps :D
wait fr??? why does it work that way???
@@yun3_ so that burst cast acts like a pause and Codex works :D
If she was a 5 star benny oh the money they would make
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"A Big Thumbs up AOE buff ULT the size of Nahida's Dome"
Yeah, just copy-paste Bennett's kit at C0 and remove circle impact. It's gonna be easy money.
If she was a 5 star bennet I would think they fired their creative director for kits.
@@AlwaysThirstys as boring as it is, the childern yearn for the bennets >:). but yah, if they were to go the bennet/xl route, that would've stirred up its own controversy
I would love if mavuikas buff was a flat atk buff like bennyy's isntead of an elemental dmg bonus. Like yeah she would lose some synergy with 2 hydro dps (But does mualani and neuvilette really need any more rn?) That way she would actually elevate atk scaling characters and she could be used as an offensive benny replacment (No circle impact, but smaller buff, Whist benny has circle and healing)
as a mualani main i wouldnt complain AT ALL i just want faster pyro ap from mavuika thats all
Not to mention we already have a LOT of %dmg boosters rn. Plus, she could have used the cinder city set for damage bonus. Kazuha gives you dmg bonus, furina gives you dmg bonus, xilonen uses cinder city, ororon uses cinder city, neuvillette has built in hydro damage from one of his passives, pretty much every dps uses a %dmg bonus goblet.
We have too many damage bonus sources, AND EXACTLY ONE FLAT ATTACK BOOSTER.
yes mualani does need a proper pyro support who gives buffs. Her teams are still fairly scuffed even with xilonen
@@THEBEST-yi2rs I agree, but Mualani ins't too picky with pyro application. So you could still use mavuika with her even if she did't buff mualani directly. Instead you could give her Golden troupe and increase mavuikas personal damage, or give her cinder city and change xilonens Artifact set (Maybe to petra). She would still be a better pick for mualani over xiangling because Mavuika as a sub dps isn't reliant on Benny or ER. But with a flat atk buff mavuika would help out a ton more other units. especially older ones (Plus mualani already is the second strongest dps in the game. Other units need more support than her hh)
If she was a complete _sidegrade_ (not even an upgrade) to either;
- Bennett, but without circle impact, or
- Xiangling without energy problem (do what she does with skill rather than burst)
then that would have made most of us very happy! (Personally I prefer Bennett alternative, but would be ok with Xiangling replacement as well)
This is the biggest disappointment I've had since Dehya. If her kit stays as it is on release, I'm going to skip her and pull Citlali instead (who is likely to enhance many of the pyro dps I alreafy have).
So far pretty disappointed in her. I have no interest in a dps, only wanted a good support or sub. An Archon should work well with many teams and Characters not just Natlan Characters. Have been saving for her but unless things change….I will just keep saving.
ifkr right, i ws so excited for her but a main dps? jsut after lyney and arle? No thanks-- I'm more excited for Lan yan at this point.
then pull for Citlali the real Zhongli powercreep!
@@gredem4799 yeah i'm thinking of pilling citlali for my wanderer adn arle as well, but lanyan is probably a decent budget version to her xD (And we get her for free--)
Cool story
Completely agree... Still going to pull for her since she's an Archon, but like, why? All the pyro 5* are dps, we really didn't need another one, specially when Xiangling teams were/are already enough for clearing abyss or kill anything in general lol
You're totally and unfortunately right! For the first time in 4 years I am probably skipping a archon... Too many existing pyro DPSs and Arlecchino is incredibly strong and easy to play; not a good pyro applicator except XL, and we need another one; too much reliant on Natlan characters (and I don't like their design...); at the end she brings nothing new to the table except powercreeping other units.
Better pulling for Citlali imo.
I'm kinda dissapointed that mavuika is a pure dps and restricted to have natlan chars in team. Even though his e skill has coordinated attacks, but that just makes her worst by not fully using her kit in that way.
And her burst will just also do increase buff for herself, not for other parties😮💨.
Compare Mavuika E skill to Raiden's coordinated attacks raiden gives burst dmg when having the eye storm.
I'll just build pyro traveller anyways with hero cinders for sub dps and providing buff, pyro traveller is easy friendly character.
And all of my primo will go to Citlali and Xilonen rerun. Im tired of seeing another pyro dps I'm already good with arle😮💨😮💨
You practically spoke my exact thoughts on mavuika, i would be happy with a dmg nerf for a flexibility/supportive buff to her kit.
Right??? The fact that she’s so restrictive is insane, especially since archons have historically been insanely versatile characters.
@frgal1336 How exactly is she restrictive? She gets like 90 Nightsoul points back herself and then you have to do a few normal attacks with anyone and she has her burst back. Her buff is universal to everyone unlike Bennett.
@@frgal1336 raiden had 2 teams and one of those was national, lmao
@@JayDamaso78 i would say it's because her kit currently needs nightsoul points. ofc, she gets 80 pts by herself, but her dmg gained from getting to 200 is very high. It's like playing a raiden team and not bursting for 2 characters.
@@rickmel-q7m Rational i think actually had many teams but rational def was by far the best. but now that we've gotten so many characters, she now has rational, double hydro, hypercarry, overload :)
Natlan has been so restrictive with artifacts, character passives, etc... 5.X has been kind of disappointing in general IMO.
In my opinion Natlan is quite fun and very cinematic
@@tweas1eil real natlan is so peak, the exploration is really fun imo
Natlan is completely faliure 😂 as my conclusion
It def has and while i like it from a thematic perspective cuz of how phlogiston works, just like how mavuika powers up from allies, from a gameplay pov, not so much. i think the story has been great, though i actually think 5.0's archon was better than 5.1, contrary to popular opinion.
7:00 xinyans Skill has no icd
hate how her kit is so far and im hoping for MAJOR changes on monday, and she isnt an improvement for mualani since her best teams are double hydro with candance/yelan/furina and mavuika's skill cant keep up with two hydro units and also burn vape teams are terrible for hydro scrolls uptime so yeah she inst an improvement for lani teams as of v2 beta
As an archon she does have some support functions like all the other archons. On the other hand she also fulfills what every limited 5 star pyro character has been so far which is a on field main dps. Personally I think she has a good core foundation of supporting abilities but just need some changes imo.
The way I would change them is
1. Attack buff to the whole party or active character like how her damage bonus works
2. Better pyro application for better synergy with more characters/teams
3. Make gaining “Fighting Spirit” easier and a bit less Natlan character reliant which makes gaining the damage bonus easier
Even if they have to lower the numbers of her support abilities a bit, making her a better support is more beneficial for current and future team building
(Also in case it needs to be stated by making her a better support that probably means lowering her dps numbers)
although she plays kind of the same as Raiden, she is way to clunky in comparison i think they should 50/50 both her dps playstyle and support playstyle cuz right now it's more like 75/25 i hoped better things for her kit design it just wasn't what I had anticipated but it is what it is
hopefully, if they strike the right balance, they could not creep anybody and actually make a character which fulfills both roles so everyone is happy. cuz yah rn, she def is more dps than support.
I also honestly find her leaked animations ugly. Her motorcycle attacks looks ridiculous af
😂 people obviously gonna use her as main dps but anyway I am giving her only golden troupe set for support 😂😂. Keeping dps jobs for others which is more convenient instead bike attacks 😂. I don't care if I lose 50 or 60% of her true power cuz her raw power becomes joke 😂 after seeing bike attacks. Did I miss anything when she fought with capitano? I didn't see that God damn motorbike I swear 😅. Not for a sec. I really felt love when I saw her raw power battling with capitano but it was just headcanon or speculation I guess. Overall, we know it's genshin 😂😂 as expected.
i personally think they look cool as heck. After seeing the other Natlan characters and the other wacky stuff they have, i just think the power of phlogiston goes BRRRRR. Though i personally dont like her biker fit tbh, it actually makes sense seeing how it only takes animal hide to make leather.
@@mamunabdulla781 ikr? doing stupid donuts on enemy while wearing that ridiculous power ranger helmet.
@@bunny_the_lifeguard9789 oh yeah, I forgot about that helmet. Probably it has abyss corrosion resistance which Zhongli's shield fails to prevail. Lmao 🤣
@@mamunabdulla781if you want her as support, then isn't the Natlan set, or even Milellith better?
I'm a relatively new player & don't have a main pyro DPS yet and I'll still pull for Arlecchino. Idc if Mavuika is better there's something called player preference and that bike gameplay looks absolutely goofy af. I don't want to be seen or see anyone doing that on my screen. Also there's the problem of her bike exploration lasting way shorter than other characters like Chasca, Kinich, Mualani, Xilonen. Like it's too short for exploration and it's gonna be even worse outside Natlan. I don't want a character like that. She's trying to be a lot of things all at once and not being good at either. So I would rather take a stable character like Neuvilette and Arlecchino for DPS, Furina and Kazuha etc for Support, Zhongli for Shield, Chasca Wanderer for exploration, Bennett Jean for healing and so on. Don't need a jack of all and master of none.
Completely understand you
One major issue with Mavuika is in burning comps. Cinder City set needs the holder to proc the reactions to get the buffs. And if the enemy is burning already, if they cinder city holder is a pyro unit, it'll never proc the buff because it's just applying pyro on pyro and not on dendro. Basically burning teams need a dendro natlan support to hold cinder city instead and we currently have none lol Kinich needs to basically swap to burgeon teams instead to even use Mavuika with cinder city
wow i didnt know this. good find :)
As a archon collector, She is probably going to be the only one I bench right after getting her.
Instead of randomly pulling out a bike , they should have stuck to her support kit shown in the archon quests, like her skill / burst being the ode of resurrection for off field BUFFS and a stance change to punching as she seems to love to do......
Frankly support would sell more especially since Arle is literally in the next half banner and you know how popular she is.
honestly thats a great idea. plus, ode to resurrection sounds like a cool af move.
I cant really explain it but it feels like natlan should’ve felt peak from some standpoint but they made so many designing mistakes in every category that at the end theres just too many of them and now the whole region feels lack luster
I agree...when Fontaine came..the introduction was peak..the lore was peak...world quest was peak...region was peak...i just don't feel attached to natlan the way I did for other regions even though natlan was the most mysterious region prior to release
I think to fix the codex issue she should drain nightsoul in her burst AND constantly refill it so it’s essentially the same as it is now but less clunky.
not really, just keep the drain active while removing the cost of her attacks
the uptime won't make a difference since most of her damage is in the burst duration anyway, or reduce the drain to 1/s if people really need the duration bonus for some reason
@@rickmel-q7m fr, i recall zajef saying that if u use Mav in a Kinich team, you'd be better off just DPSing Mav rather than kinich bc she just powercreeps them all💀
All they really had to do was just make her have effectively 2 ults if you tap her skill she does a big burst of dmg and then buffs the team whether thats dmg bonus or atk then her hold skill will be the same but her ult will now be something equivalent to xiao itto or cynos ult and she'll enter a big dps mode and then make her ult refresh her nightsoul point and lasts the duration of those nightsoul points
honestly, 2 different ults actually couldve been such a cool concept
Hahahhahaha that's too creative for hoyoverse. ( jokes apart, I don't see it happening before Tsaritsa)
At the very least, normal arks should guarantee the 100 cost burst, while the higher power 200 cost is reserved for natlan characters. I really don’t like how restrictive the current fighting spirit mechanics restrict her to natlan characters
Mavuikas own mechanics can get her to 80 pts of fighting spirit, so any off type of fast NA fighter should easily get the remaining 20 pts.
Her plus xilonen plus normals should get you to 200.
@@ravissary79 i showed a demonstration in the 8:40 section and the main issue when not using a non natlan character is how it deletes ur buffs. while in theory, ex polearm users could hit many times, 10-14 ish hits on their turn will still take a few seconds
@yun3_ deletes your buffs? I'm not sure what buffs get deleted if you do normal attacks with Wriothesly or Yoimiya.
@@ravissary79 assuming ur basics carry on to the next burst, yah, it wouldnt be too big of an issue for them. i gotta make a pinned comment for this
I'm also super disappointed as a ganyu main. Her slow application and the difficulty of charging her burst to get more damage buffs is. I don't expect a significant improvement if any at all over xiangling+bennett, and the setup for each rotation will get more convoluted. Really praying hard for changes
Just imagine a pyro xinqiu for ganyu.
a plus of mavuika with ganyu is that you don’t have to get close to opponents while shooting to get pyro application. mavuika’s pyro application is ranged
With mavuika you don't have to build energy on her and she'll be going good off field damage, Ganyu doesn't apply cryo fast enough for not melting to be an issue.
@@apedradesisifo4081i will instantly c6 the new char. my ganyu does around 40k charge shots, imagine the carnage it would do 👾👾
I'm just genuinely surprised that we only have one Flat ATK buffer which is Bennett(and a healer as a bonus). We have so many DMG buffers such as Kazuha, Furina and now Natlan characters with Nightsoul can just use Cinder Scroll to get the effect. Mavuika being another Pyro DPS and a DMG buffer(with her passive using the Burst and access to Cinder Scroll) with Bennett as the only main staple for ATK scaling buff and another partner for him is ridiculous.
atm i'd rather c6 Arlecchino over pulling for mavuika. over all, all dps characters of natlan haven't convinced me so far. smh im still stuck in the fontaine meta
Chasca is very fun
So far... only 3 characters who have interested me so far are. Chasca, xilonen and citlali...
Every Natlan character have massive nuke dmg exclude Xilonen.
Only Chasca seems worth pulling
Tbf fontaine meta is very fun and good
As a Ganyu lover the thing I wanted the most out of her was for her to have insane levels of pyro application so it is extremely easy to melt everything. What Ganyu needed the most out of a pyro applier is a pyro applier that has enough off field pyro that she can burst without having the pyro gauge removed.
yah, using ganyu myself, xl will seem to be the only one who can do this
this is toeing the line of exodia bs. im not getting a character that requires certain teammates just to function.
one of my favorite things to do USED TO BE seeing what teams combinations i could use to clear content, but they make more and more restrictions on teams.
i have not, and will not play imaginarium theatre because of this bs. let me use the characters i want, this is ridiculous. what's the point of pulling for characters if i cant use them.
easy skip.
Honestly IT isn't so bad after the changes. You can make some really wacky teams work with the buff cards
Why don't we get a 2nd Bennett? Simple.
They want you to pull for Signature Weapons simply for the higher Base ATK, and at the same time increasing the value of ATK%.
With the amount of DMG% buff we have these days, ATK Goblet might even be the play now.
They lowered the Weapon Banner's Fate Points to 1 because they knew this would happen.
*Changes for Mavuika that I want to see:*
1. Make the A1 buff Partywide instead of just for herself.
2. Make her A4 capped at 100 Fighting Spirit, and it only decays when you have less than 100. (If you have more than 100 points, it will stay at 50%). This way non-Natlan teams won't be completely garbage.
3. *LOWER HER MULTIPLIERS* and make it so that her Burst also buffs her off-field DMG.
i just think they don’t want bennet 2 cuz if you put bennet + bennet 2, that’s too many bennets xd
honestly, if they make her an on field driver for pryo rather then the “main” dps, that’s be pretty interesting. lower her multipliers a bit and lean into support a bit more
I don’t think the higher base attack of recent signature weapons means that Bennett 2 won’t happen, I think what it means is if we do get Bennett Imbibitor Lunae he will be ATK% based. Bennett’s attack buff is roughly 100% if you convert it to Atk% with the average sig, I could see Bennett Pro Max having an attack buff on that same level, but make it team wide without Circle Impact and the character would sell.
that "theory" falls flat when you realize that most characters that use bennet get huge benefits from their signatures (raiden, arlechino, wrio, kinich, etc)
this is such delusion lmfao nobody is pulling on 5 star weapons to put on bennett dawg
@@yun3_Bennett-Sara was a thing for a while and KINDA still is, though barely relevant. Didn't see that breaking the game.
I don't want her to be a dps, i want her to be a debuffer.
Like her ult will slash and make a field that apply pyro that deals damage every 2.5 seconds based on 10% of the enemies hp ( This skill damage has 100 crit rate and 150 crit damage regardless of build and will not be affected by current crit stats), traps them in the field, decrease movement speed, return 100% of the damage taken by the active character (Still your character will receive damage), enemies in the field will take 35% more damage, and resurrects if someone in the party dies.
Her weapon would have ER. And can decrease enemies resistance by 15% for all elements but if a teammate dies she will recover energy.
interesting idea. We honestly havent had any dedicated debuffers in this game so adding one would be pretty cool, though perhaps another unit
I wonder if they over-tuned her numbers to test what she will be like with a future Bennett Imbibitor Lunae. This is also why I think Chiori could snapshot in her beta, so people could test her with Benny’s buff from off field (I think Bennett 2 will give their buff team-wide). That’s just my conspiracy theory though, I think they are scared to release a Bennett Pro Max since Benny warps the power of attack scalers so much on his own.
oh good point actually, though i swear they could test stuff with their own private servers, though i have 0 idea how any of it works tbh. like can just change stuff willy nilly? honestly, if they made a bennet sidegrade which didnt buff as much but provided similar utility AND no circle impact, itd take it
I don't even need a Benny pro max. I just need a Bennett with no circle impact, that's all. Hell, I'll be okay if they take away the healing. Not creating a single Pyro sub DPS in this game after Xianling has been one of the stupidest decisions Hoyo has ever made in regards to a whole ãss element, not just Mavuika. I don't care if Pyro characters are straightforward because their archon is straightforward. I want a Pyro off-fielder that's an alternative to Bennett-Xianling. Is that too much to ask?
@@RKNancy Yes, that's too much to ask. Here's your another Pyro Main dps. 6.0 :- here's your another Hydro catalyst user, here's your another character that doesn't make sense in game. Here's another 5 STAR character totally irrelevant to story.
tbh i think mavuikas biggest issue is that she is JUST a pyro sub dps. furina was a hydro sub dps, but with incredibly unique mechanics that pushed healing into the meta. imagine now that instead we never got the furina with hp drain or healing buffs, and she was literally just a stronger yelan with a tacked on "all fontaine characters get a 20% dmg buff when used with this character). super boring, and i dont think any amount of buffs to mavuikas kit will save her from her terrible game design.
i'm hoping ifa from the flower-feather clan, who looks like a pyro character, will be a way more impressive pyro character. also possibly xbalanque, since if you played the new area it sounds like he'll be a playable character.
while i would agree how furina had a rly thought out kit, i want to say mavuika first and foremost is a main on field dps which is apparent by her burst. But she can be used off field. but yah, her off field doesn't really bring anything special to the table which is honestly fine as it doesnt need to, seeing how it is just the side part of her kit
@@yun3_ id say it still does provide at least something "special", just not special enough for an archon. for example, yelan applies less hydro than xingqiu but this is actually a really better option for quickbloom teams, or good for teams that already need 2 hydro's anyways. mavuika might be in a similar boat, what if you could use a arlechinno - xingqiu - xilonen - mavuika team and try to vaporize both arlechinno's and mavuika's slower pyro sub dps at once?
still, i think mavuika woulda been cooler if she was "more" than a pyro dps and sub dps, since rn she doesnt really provide anything archon-level changing ti the game.
like, what if instead of mavuikas current burst and dmg buff, she would make quickswap teams "meta" by providing a absolutely huge atk buff on all of your party members that only activates once you on-field them, but also decays as you use them. it would make way more sense for mavuika too, since she herself is a dps youd quickswap into.
itd make weird quadruple on-fielder teams like ganyu - arlechinno - ayato - mavuika be meta. I think its also way more fitting fir mavuika too as the archon of "war", to make litera quadruple on-fielder teams meta
but oh well, mavuikas kit isnt as game changing as i wanted it to be, but she still looks fun
people who skipped xilonen are feeling like clowns rn, couldn't be me... this is trully the genshin impact experience
i just wanted her to be mualani BIS support but guess not
she still is i believe BUT its not as good as it could've been
Mauvika mulani kazuha xilonen. The calc on mulani Bite is 500k.
So yeah😅
@@saudmubarak1542Sounds pretty good, I have c1 so I should be averaging more
@@yun3_ its just very small increase for the prce of 75-150 pulls .... which could give u citlali or other insane support / constealation for mualani which is WAY bigger dps increase than copes and dreams
@@saudmubarak1542 she is already doing close to that....
she seems really out of place, the bike is just weird. But the main dps does make sense for the archon of war
her skill summon a shapeshifting weapon (and the tap e is basically an artillery platform). while we don't know why she shaped it like a bike she is aware of it being out of place in the skill flavor text
Yes, but how good it would've been is she had a normal burst instead of this Foreign-to-game-Spirit bs. I mean whole game revolves around elemental energy lmao.
To me it really sucks she depends on Nightsoul and Natlan characters. I started in 1.0 and took a break through the entirety of 4.0 up until 5.2 now. Was hoping she’s have a bigger gain on application and support, but rip. I guess I’ll go for Citlali instead.
With regards to the Codex set, they can code her so that she does lose NSP in her burst, but the amount she loses is zero. That would trigger the 4pc set bonus without draining any of her points.
This is similar to how Arlecchino works with on-heal effects, like Chevreuse C6. She still counts as being "healed" by other characters, but the ammount she is healed is 0.
This would be such a simple fix. However, it's possible that she's meant to go with an upcoming artifact set, maybe even one that will make her kit make more sense in some way. Honestly who the f knows with Hoyo.
according to a commenter, they said that she drains the 10 FS/NSP during her burst which does trigger codex. They said they found out due to private server stuff but we ofc just gotta take that with a grain of salt. this reminds me of a weird interaction in hsr with something with lingsha e1 iirc where there is a -0% def shred but it still counts as a debuff
Why did they make my girl a pyro DPS when we got my girl Arle just a few months ago, who is already cracked AND is coming back T.T
Guess ill try for Citlali, i dont have Zhongli and she seems a nice cryo support as well.
She is nice cryo application and potential burst damage. Though her shield is like weak af
Not every player want Arle bol mechanics so Mavuika will be good for those plaayers that want comfort.
@@supernieva2419 Like Mavuika doesnt have the Nightsoul point mechanic, right?
And how is Arle mechanic uncomfortable? Press E, wait 5s (5 seconds that you spend in your other party member's rotation anyways) then press charged attack and beat people, how is that any different from Mavuika who uses her party members skills, press E and beat people?
Nightsoul point mechanic is even more uncomfortable cause it restricts your party to have someone from Natlan who can keep her points up, and if you dont youre losing uptime with Mavuika, so Arle is literally much more comfortable and less restrictive than her, specially if you have Chevreuse which opens overload teams for her, but if you dont then she also works with vape teams anyways.
All 5* Pyro characters have been DPS. Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Arlecchino and now Mavuika? Thats shit. Give us a replacement for Xiangling already ffs.
@@GojiradogzillagodzillaArlecchino is pretty squishy because of BOL, so a lot of players don't want that. But i agree on everything else
@@androidgames1602 Thats fair, but she gets elemental damage reduction from one of her talents and her R heals a lot, so me personally i never had any problems with her.
I am skipping her to get arlecchino. I can't miss Father's banner a second time!
i think we need to put our foot down and skip mauvika to send a message, then maybe they will give us characters we need.
say that to the chi-na bros. as long as they don't send a message, hoyo won't listen.
@@bunny_the_lifeguard9789Meanwhile, you get CN players complaining that HoYo only listens to global... Truth is, HoYo only listens to their bottom line and the CCP. That's it.
You expecting top majority of Whale will listen. Their just want good looking character
Why would they listen to minority and f2p players
I might be one of the few people happy that she's DPS focused character since I've been waiting to replace my Hu Tao since 1.3...
That said, I totally understand people wanting her to be a well rounded character like the other Archons.
She is well rounded but ppl are just idiots. (Not even joking)
I've replaced my Hu Tao with Arlecchino and also have a C6 Diluc, so I was looking forward to a solid pyro support.
I expect her to be similar to Raiden - very hyped at launch, but eventually forgotten as a hypercarry
I skipped HuTao,Liney and Arlecchino and so far Maviuka seems better because at C1 full off field skill uptime
@@AlwaysThirstyssays the idiot. (Not even joking)
True hutao change time
Great video, 100% agree, I fully expected her to be the support Mualani needs since Xiangling struggles with energy so much and also possibly an oportunity for some cryo characters to become a bit more relevant again. Instead we're getting yet another pyro dps. I just got c1 for my hu tao, and i have arlecchino, i dont need another one. Its just unfortunate, hopefully they improve her buffing capabilities a bit. Even if she is an ok support for other natlan dps' shes so strong that if you have her youre better off just playing her as a main dps and kick your kinich out of the team 😂
6:05 I personally use Dehya with my Mualani, as Dehya’s skill is just barely fast enough for Mualani to not miss any vapes. This removes the need to have a battery for anyone in the team, as my flex slot is Mona (who has basically 0 Hydro application) and Mona doesn’t always need to burst on every rotation.
do u have c2 dehya? i feel like c0 uptime is so short for her skill. though im actually surprised it's still enough tho ngl
@@yun3_ C0, my rotation puts Dehya right before Mualani; Xilonen EQ (I end up using Xilonen’s burst every other rotation on average), Mona Q (if available), Dehya E (twice if I used Mona’s Q, to cancel her Hydro), and then Mualani E shenanigans (I have C1 Mualani so her initial E hit is stronger than her Q)
It happens that, in this specific setup, Dehya’s Pyro applies after Mualani does damage, so as long as I have Pyro when I swap to Mualani, the Pyro stays for the entire rotation. Dehya’s E ends while I’m getting the three stacks for the final NA from Mualani’s nightsoul state, but it doesn’t really matter since the Pyro aura sticks around long enough anyways.
Mavuika still is a massive upgrade, since Dehya’s kit falls apart when applied to more than 1 target. Even 2 targets results in Mualani’s damage falling off a cliff on the second target.
Luckily the specific Dehya I lost to was on Hu Tao’s most recent banner, and puts me in a position where I have enough pulls to *guarantee* Mavuika
Signora snuck into the tier list, this is enough proof and cope I need for her return 🔥🔥
we're all pulling for citlali with this one
ACTUAL SUBJECTIVE VIEW WITH BOTH CONS AND PROS IN THIS COMMUNITY ???? IMPOSSIBLE 😱😱😱
yes i had to use my thinking cap which racked my brain lol
lmfao i love the fire hazard censor
Its still in beta so things can change and always remember that hoyo dev has information we do not know of( future units and new system like how yea and kuki were released in 2.x while being designed with dendro in mind)
yah, rly hoping v3 comes with some solutions to make her a bit more flexible outside of using natlan teammates. besides that, i think shes fine tbh. and the codex issue ofc
What if Snezhenaya is the support sub dps nation?
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 maybe. I personally hope it's the physical and cryo revival dam, natlan actually goes out of its way to kick physical while it's down lol
V3 will be the final, v4 and v5 mostly words fixed issue
I am still going for Mavuika surprisingly I haven't pulled for any Pyro DPS since I have C6 Xiangling. I was contemplating to go for Arlecchino after Mavuika's first run. But since Mavuika is a DPS there isn't a need for me to pull for Arlecchino
@@Gaurang_Karande oh yeah if your going for dps Mavuika your definitely not gonna regret it she is the strongest by far as long as u have Xilonen to burst consistently of course
I started in 3.7. I never did get any pyro dps. I missed arle first time around. Then was saving to pull for both of em this time around but since mavuika is meant to be quite strong, I’m hoping to get her c2. Unless they change her kit fundamentally and she’s weaker than I’ll go for both of em again haha
@@Ranamon9132 yah v3 is gonna be rly important to see if she's gonna be worth for players or not
@@yun3_ when is v3 if you don’t mind me asking
@@Ranamon9132 it will be this monday at 3am central. U can check the homdgcat website if u want the exact time :)
I am happy that she is a dps. As a new genshin player, who just started playing for the first time, I don't have any good dps. What can be better than having an archon as a dps which first for genshin!
Im surprised that Mavuika doesn't generate night soul for the team. Imagine if she could allow enable non Natlan characters to effectively use OC and Cinder like Furina does with Marechausse. For Natlan characters she'd give them a bit more Nightsoul for combat but could help battery exploration abilities outside of Natlan. Heres hoping the next revisions make her more universal.
I love mavuika and i don't give a fakk for those who hate her. Definitely pulling c2 mavuika❤
gl on ur pulls :) 🎰🎰
Nobody hates her. We just don't like her kit. Her character in archon quest is cool and nice.
@@danieliacomi5411 Yes, it is. I saw lots of comments on TH-cam, TikTok, Facebook, and other platforms. People hate Mavuika because of her design, her motorcycle, and her kit. They don't like her design because they think it doesn't suit her, and they say the motorcycle doesn't make sense. That's what they're saying not me. I like mavuika
@@jatyfd8445just like me.I prefer to stay neutral. I'm not siding with anyone. If I like a character, I’ll pull for them. For example, Chasca has many haters because of her design, especially her pants (I kinda agree tho-it does feel weird 🙃). But I’m still pulling for her at Constellation 4 along with her signature weapon because I like her
She could have her Ult gives every party members a Night Soul Blessing state for (X) duration while buff (X%) of dmg when in Night Soul Blessing State, while her Skill is like an off field pyro dmg and application for every (X) seconds for (X) duration.
I like her, saved around 280+ pulls currently for her and citlali! I'm thinking of pairing her with Xilonen and Citlali with her being the main dps.
Ps: The place is in Mihoyo HQ Shanghai, China, I just took a pic beside the anemo slime two weeks ago hahahaha😂
dang that actually cool as heck. is their HQ like super massive? cuz id assume it would be
As a archon "gotta catch em all" this kinda sucks for only having kinnich from natlan. Guess in going burgeon
I have no problem her being a DPS even, but being a DPS, while also being a niche as fuck unit that leaning TOO HARD on Natlan Roster, if you're not playing her with Natlan roster you're basically running a marathon while cutting off both of your legs. Even worse, having bad Pyro application while also providing nothing else. The ONLY thing she has, is damage, and that shit is very easy to powercreep, this unit will not last long. Though I know her damage will be a bit relevant and taking longer to powercreep since the number already big, but holy fuck, this design is so ass
niche = using the same support that 90% of characters already use? lol
@@rickmel-q7m Ppl are stupid ok, let them have their moment.
Watched the whole video, basically agree with everything said. Main DPS wanted will be feasting but all of us without Xilonen will be pulling for her on the rerun I guess 😂
I saw someone else’s comment about changing her burst to better work with non natlan teams, amazing idea.
Also like the video idea to make her work with codex, def needed.
Overall, still disappointed in another pyro main DPS since I’m now going to have like 8 on my account? Pain 😂😅
Great video as always!
like those without xilonen ofc can make it work by pulling citlali, but dang, that's A LOT of patches to wait for to make he feel rly gud. im sitting at 5/8 limited characters being dps' lol. but ty for tuning in as usual
You forgot Kachina is also good alternative if you don't like other Natlan character. She is free thou
@ no, I didn’t. Kachina is an alternative, she’s not a good alternative imo. She can’t replace xilonen she just kinda exists imo
Honestly if they buff her support capabilities and off field dps more then i'm sure people will be happy. Like change how her A1 instead of buffing her 35% atk they can change into buffing the entire team. Just this alone will buff both her dmg and her entire team dmg making her support capability much higher. 2nd they can just make her A2 buff like usual but not restricted to how much fighting spirit she need to consume. The rest is like what u said her skill interval into probably 1.5 per second, and make her ulti can abuse codex. With this instead of being on field dps. She will be off field, support and on field dps. Basically master of all classes.
I want the Pyro Archon as a DPS and very happy shes gonna be a powerful one. Im a person who collecting all Natlan characters and this is my favorite nation. I understand people want a support but I hope its a different character other than the Archon.
Mavuika kit would make more sense if every natlan character that can proc nightsoul burst wasnt a complete skip.
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i like the acoustic version played by the bosses more
Looking at the previous archons (Furina/Mavuika), I think it’s safe to assume that the Cryo Arhon will have an unique mechanic complementary to Snezshnaya’s unique mechanic.
Furina works well with most Fontaine characters bcs. of the HP change & Pneuma n Ousia but also allows the battle mechanic to work with older characters (HP drain kit)
Mavuika’s kit works well with Natlan and older characters (Nightsoul point and Battle Points)
Cryo Archon and Snezshnaya characters will have an unique ability (maybe smth like a Follow-up attack or QTE ) and the Tsaristsa will allow that mechanic to work on older characters
IMO , I think the QTE mechanic would be a good idea since it’s highly versatile.
The QTE mechanic should work like this :
There are 3 conditions in which the QTE is triggered
- When dealing Crit Hit
- Using CA/Skill/Burst
- Debuff applied
Snezshnaya characters will follow one of these rules and their QTE depends on their element and the QTE has a cooldown
- Pyro : deals damage
- Hydro : heals characters
- Electro: energy gained
- Geo : gain shield
- Anemo : small vortex created
- Cryo : Enemy Physical/Cryo res. is decreased .
- Dendro : shoots sprouts taht deal apply the element itself .
Ofc. the QTE damage should be relatively minor and my idea is that 5 stars have a unique QTE triggered by a given condition of their kit which will allow for more flexibility and 4 stars still follow the aforementioned rules
long live signora !!
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Y'all are insane but in a good way.
I honestly fail to see the issue here. I wanted her most of all to be an alternative to XL+Bennet, and that's exactly what she is. She deals decent damage off-field while providing useful pyro application and she also buffs the party, even more so on the scroll set. I never wanted or expected her to match or even power creep the two of them on a single team slot. That'd be crazy considering how busted they are individually, and especially as a duo. If anything she looks to be a pretty decent pyro Furina who doesn't need a healer, but maybe want's another Natlan character instead. And she has an alternative playstyle that might actually end up seeing play, unlike Furina's healing mode.
good points. her pyro app is enough in some cases and the scroll set is def a really nice addition to her off field playstyle.
i think it's a nice comparison to furina with how they are restricted in some way. IG the main thing is how restrictive say natlan characters are to say healers
even as someone that plays kinich emilie burning, i cant justify getting mavuika since thats my only team i could run her in, and xiangling is already doing a lot of personal damage and applicatin alone to where mavuika wouldnt buff my team enough (plus squeezing her onfield dps into a kinich team would be kind of clunky). got my guaranteed ready for citlali 🙏🙏
I too would love to see Mavuika's tap skill hit time decreased from 2.0 seconds to 1.5 seconds. I didn't even think about Obsidian codex 4 set issue with her burst as it doesn't consume nightsoul. The other thing I am curious about as we already know she does not use energy, will she still make energy particles for the team? If she doesn't that could put a huge strain on partry energy just like what Noelle does on her teams.
she does thankfully. generates 5 particles from starting her skill just like arle iirc :) Though i dunno if her subsequent tap skills will generate (i assume no tho)
8:13 I'd like to agree here as xiangling main, but you forgot to factor in her burst nuke
It's strange how the entire community all of a sudden starts bandwagoning together to hate bennet and xiangling.
I hate xiangling, 350 Energy isn't enough to burst and if you put Bennett with 280 Energy. She might possible to burst.
Most common things I hate xiangling instead build her up for DMG.
@@yoiko89 bruh, my xiangling has 200-250 er depending on build and I don't have problems as long as I play her with bennet
C1 it is for support Mavuika. I was worried there was no way to get full uptime on her skill but C1 solves this, also I can play her with no Natland characters with C1. The rest of the cons seem more for DPS playstyle. In a way it saves me trying to go for C6 (I have 700wishes) and go for cons of someone else (and her C6 is not game changing like Furina). I''l use scroll set even if Xilonen has it to buff more elements.
I plan to use her in this team :
Emilie C1
Mavuika C1(Replaces DeyhaC3) .Tap skill+burst when it's available.
FLEX (off-field sub-dps or shield)
FurinaC6(ousia healing mode) or XilonenC0R1 (Probably Xilonen is better here)
The main advantage over Deyha is that her skill follows the player and doesn't need repositioning.
This video pointed out all my concerns about Mavuika.
Currently I main Mualani, got her c2 r1 and she became my favorite character in the game. I want to have her best team possible and judging everything we know so far about the pyro archon I really dont know If shes really that important to reach that set goal, shes a dps not a buffer, is it worth it to pull simply for her pyro aplication? I heard that Citlali will buff Pyro and Hydro, will she be more value for my Mualani team than the archon? I'm really considering going for c6 Mualani in the future thats how much I like her, same goes for Xilonen C2, so I'll need every primo available and not pull for the wrong units.
if u have citlali, bc she has cryo application off field, you need good pyro application to remove the aura. i dunno if mavuika can do it rn but we'll just have to see. if not 👩🍳👩🍳👩🍳
Off-field damage/application, burst damage, buffer, and can be a dps. A must pull for me. I'll be using her just like Raiden.
What is the name of the flute music
it's called Whistles of Monetoo :)
She looks really cool n badass but I have zero room for another pyro dps, Giving my actual pyro dps new melt teams with Citlali seems way more interesting so I guess I will get Mavuika for the collection when she reruns around banners I dont care about.
I feel like the other equation missing is a dedicated artifact set for off-field Mauvika since her kit basically cannot utilize Cinder City as much as say Xilonen, Kachina or Ororon. Obsidian Codex works since she plays like every other Natlan DPS character, but there is not much else.
i think if u dont want to use cinder city, golden troupe is a good alternative if u want to stick with off field
Everyone in this comment section who said they won't pull for her because she's a DPS will pull for her on day 1 😂 The temptation is too big for them to skip. I foresaw this miles away.
True, people suck at boycotting genshin lmao
Sad that her off-field pyro application isn't as good as Xiangling. I'll probably still get her since I only really want her for Mualani. That way my Xiangling can go back to her rightful place, Raiden National.
Agreed.
I'm a big fan of support and off-field characters in general, and was hoping for a pyro applier to maybe one day be able to turn my Mona into a better dps. And tbf the game also just needs one, it's ridiculous that Xiangling is still the only option and has a lot of her potential locked behind her c4.
Instead we get an archon who will seemingly be difficult to incorporate in a team, very restrictive on other party members and kinda need c1, and another on-field dps character. Who needs another on-field dps? I'm finding it hard to even spend primogems at this point, because many characters take well over a year to rerun and with only two banners at a time, there's hardly anyone but on-field dps to pull.
I'm also concerned about the rate at which powercreep is happening lately. I've seen so many games I once loved being destroyed for short-term capitalistic greed, and genshin's recent development feels eerily familiar. I love genshin a lot, it's basically the only game I play. But I've genuinely almost lost hope already.
We've got strong powercreep, oversexualization of female characters, and basically the entire English community knows what a de-esser plugin is by now, yet the voice-over somehow gets worse every patch instead of better
honestly, i think only in natlan had there been pwr cree imo. natlan imo has been pretty balanced so far for all 3 dps’. i think genshin actually has done a great job in regards to pwr creep. though spiral abyss is getting harder and harder, it is still soo impressive in my eyes that 1.x and 2.x characters are still relevant. when we go to HSR, ehhh, not good imo.
i didnt even know a de essee plugin even existed. i personally love the english dub. i think the inly character that ive disliked is actually ororon, just cuz he sounds like how i would sound when im lying xd
Me too! Triple crowned Mona main here. I'm currently trying to find a team where she can vape but also be on field, which feels like an impossible search lol. As of now the best team in terms of damage and fun factor is to just put Mona on a burning team and have her off field. Still satisfying to play, but shes not the center stage! I could theoretically replace lyney (or literally any other pyro dps) with Mauvika, but shed be so much more flexible if she leaned much more in the hybrid applicator/damage dealer instead :(
(PS I was wondering if you've found any fun teams I could try out with Mona? I feel like I'm running out of ideas)
@@maddie9117 I can't say that I've found a team yet, but I have at least been pursuing one for the last couple of months.
Though I'm going in a different direction, with plunge attacks being the main idea, and idk if it will work.
Plunge vape definetely won't work as of now due to the lack of pyro appliers, so it might end up being a very weak mono hydro team. I'm mainly making it for fun because I enjoy Mona's gameplay.
Right now I'm leaning towards Kachina, Mona, Xianyun, Furina. No clue if that even works or if it'll be fun, but I can't test it until Xianyun gets a rerun.
Bennett or Xilonen would also be better than Kachina most likely, I just like her more. And if it ends up being abyss-worthy somehow, I'll need Bennett on the other team
Guys whatever anyone says she the best waifu out there!!
Honestly, with how she's going, I am tempted to use either Crimson witch of flames or Golden Troupe on her and call it a day. I am not even motivated to farm the natlan artifacts for her. And I am more interested in getting her claymore for Diluc, which is just absurd. It's like the game devs is trying screw us over but failing miserably at it.
Firstly, for ayato, childe and neuvillette they rarely vape anyway and are usually reverse vape drivers when used with xiangling and can occasionally get a foward vape, ayaka doesn't have bennett in her best team and doesn't want xiangling. Secondly there is no reason to use xianglings burst over mavuikas e, she needs A LOT of energy if you don't use bennett (who is getting phased out by hp scaling characters, xilonen and furina), which automatically makes mavuikas do more damage, sure it doesn't last as long but it'll do more than xianglings burst without bennett considering that you can't build her as a good sub dps without him (unless you spend 20 years in the emblem domain ig). As for her burst yes it is kinda just alright at best, but I still think she replaces xiangling easily.
for childe, it's 50/50 who gets the vape i would say. ik neuv and ayato generally aren't in vape teams. i wont speak on ayato but the main reason why neuv isnt imo is bc of bennet. rn, his best team would be neuv, xilo, kazu, furina. if bennet instead gave dmg% or hp rather than attack, I would have no doubt that many would instead use neuv in vape teams. not being able to benifit from benifit sucks.
i believe it's debateable what ayaka's best team is , whether ayaka, xilonen, kazu, furina or melt with ayaka, kazu/xilo, benny, xl. both are just fine imo
and yes. if u need pryo but cant use bennet, mavuika would be good for u like a mualani. if u need pyro and need atk, good ol reliable benny xl.
as a new player from 5.0 im between father's damage and easier gameplay and mavuika's cool design, exploration and dps capabilities i also plan to run her with granny to get more out of her burst
I believe mavuika would be the better pick if you plan on pulling natlan characters like citlali. you get nice dps and cool exploration capabilites :)
btw, with granny you can permafly even if mavuika has really short flying windows
if i use her in neuvi team as a support,neuvillete xilolen kazuha mavuika,if i use her skill at the first i dont think i'm able to give all my buffs to hydro,i hope explain it right
ur right. that is a bit rough cuz u really want mavuika to go first but u still need to swirl hydro and what not. I THINK u can go like
mavuika skill, neuvi skill burst(applies hydro & removes pryo), kazu skill ult(swirls hydro ideally), xilonen skills, (either burst with mavuika or straight to dps)
I've been saving for Mavuika, but I might just go for Citliai instead. Hopefully to send a message to mihoyo with lower revenue from her banner and because I already have every Pyro dps released so far...
What I'm most annoyed about is that she doesn't work with the archon team, so far Raiden, Nahida and Furina have been wonderful for the team, but Mavuika doesn't seem to add anything or even work with them as her nightsoul requirements make her clunky to play
I do think as an archon of war she had to be main dps ,plus that is what I wanted her to be anyway
this is yet another proof that bennet is the pyro archon
I use Mualani, Xilonen, Kazuha, and Xiangling
I battery my Xiangling with 270% er and double fav from Xilonen and Xiangling.
Yes, I suffer with not enough energy.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. mine's at 246 and if my bennet does not have fav and i am funneling the hell outta her, it's actually gg rotation dead lol
Xiangling issue is severe, to the point I put all stats in ER (I reach 350 Energy but still not enough)
My team Maulani, Xilonen, Zhongli and Xiangling. I want to replace xiangling in all team, her energy is annoying.
Her energy is the reason why I didn't build her early in game ..but then I had to because so many teams I wanted to build needed her because she's the sole off field Pyro
mavuika should just be able to stack FS from energy usage as well. or maybe from reactions?
i would say maybe not energy cuz then shed be just like raiden, so perhaps elemental dmg or reactions?
7:00 Xinyans skill has no ICD
ohh, the skill applies the pyro after you stack it up. I thought it was the elemental burst. thx
0:59 crying ei
Guys what to do if I dont have xilonen 🙂
u can get citlali instead and play a melt team :)
Save for xilonen rerun
Im very happy that she is dps my account lack's dps 210 pulls for nuve , mav, and clorinde , i was considering arle before knowing mav is dps now i skipping her with no regrets
16:58 omg league mentioned 🤩
It definitley is one of the games of all time lol
There already is a pyro dps that is bonkers strong, and thats Arlechinno. Its cool that they gonna make the archon a pyro dps, however they should make her atleast have better support functions as well and less restrictive
Inwish she was a dedicated sub dps w a potential to be a main one
Her motorcycle is giving inferno rider from WUWA😂
his bike was cool as hell but his combat capabilities as an echo sucked xd
@yun3_ It still sucks tbh😂. It makes more sense to have such a mechanism in WUWA due to world design and elements but in Genshin it feels weird
i actually dont mind seeing how they have even more advanced stuff in genshin. a box with 2 wheels powered by some ancient power source aint too surprising to me ;)
Inferno Rider is giving Ghost Rider from Marvel.
Ironic.
She can do the three role but you need Natlan character that limit her capacity to support.
Wait, is it just me or Signora literally is included, and will be playable??
sry thats a joke 🥲
So does the Pyro Archon's Bike attacks count as Basic attacks, that Xingqiu's Rainswords can also proc them?
too bad mav charge attacks is the best way for big DPS.
@@namelesshunter4714 But xinqiu has his orbitals which means that he still applies enough hydro even without his swords.
It can just depending on how you play. you can just basic attack which would send out the rain swords, but as the other comments said, her CA playstyle will likely be better. BUT, you can use xq if u wanted to :)
@@AlwaysThirstysThose orbitals are irrelevant might as well replace with barbara if thats the case
I was hoping that her burst will summon a large AOE field that constantly deals dmg at an interval of 0.5 seconds. So that she will be a good pyro applicator😢😢
i guess i'll have to skip because don't wanna replace my signora
I was really hoping to replace Xiangling and Bennet for a 5* version, kinda disappointed on her being a main dps, specially after Arlechino was released a few patches ago and now she seems to power creep her 😢
Colombina will over throw Bennet and xiangling trust the process (let me cope okay)
columbina peak character (we know next to nothing about her) if shes not playable im gonna tweak out
🙏
isnt columbina cryo tho?
@@Ruents well she is the most mysterious harbinger with nearly no information on her so she could be any element really
@@Sky_901 Her design is giving anemo and cryo vibes. Mostly anemo
Does her c6 apply her c2’s def down? Seems like even with c6 her tap e ring visual doesnt show up while shes on her motorcycle
yes
Rip to no xilonen havers 😂
Condolences for those people your sacrifice is must needed, Hoyoverse give us time to pull Xilonen but yeah their just skip it. Xilonen a character who doesn't receive any nerfed.
@@yoiko89Why do people keep saying that
"Oh u had time to pull for Xilonen"
B) I HAD NO PRIMOS😭💔
I absolutely hate that bike in the attack animation...m