Burnout and Mental Illness: The Silent Epidemic of Healthcare Workers | What Can We Do?

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  • Healthcare employees are not OK. I would venture to say that most feel burnt out, mentally unwell, and exhausted. Headlines are constantly showing how people are fleeing the healthcare profession faster than schools can replace them. But no work is being done to address the underlying reason for these concerns. Today we talk about Burnout in healthcare, and mental illness in healthcare. Who is the most affected by mental illness in healthcare? What does burnout look like? And what can you do to help identify, and proactively avoid some of these symptoms.
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  • @carolapostolos8929
    @carolapostolos8929 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    EXCELLENT video. Everyone contributed a wealth of knowledge. One suggestion, please have less ads. There were so many ads it was very disruptive and annoying 🙄

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I forgot to go in and remove them. Thank you!

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      holy crap that was a ton of them. I'm sorry! TH-cam places their own and I have to go back in and remove most of them, which is fine. unless i forget. like this. again. Sorry!

    • @carolapostolos8929
      @carolapostolos8929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NurseLiz Thanks Liz!

    • @nurseadrianern
      @nurseadrianern ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx and glad you enjoy Nurse Liz and the entourage.

    • @fernandorego098
      @fernandorego098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have too many horrible experiences. Nursed for 33 years. It's left me damaged.

  • @medickaisu
    @medickaisu ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I was working hospice when I was diagnosed with gastric cancer. Exit for one year of chemo, surgery, more chemo. I then struggled - really struggled - to get back and I did. Less than a year later, my freaking husband died. I went back to hospice work 3 weeks later and struggled - really struggled - to do it. I retired 2 months ago. I am now working on getting my home ready for sale, living off of savings and struggling to do anything besides watch youtube videos for 12 hours at a stretch. I have learned that I am much more fragile than I thought - that I can power through very difficult things, but there is a huge price to pay. Cut yourself some slack. You are not a machine. You are a human being and no matter how strong an arm is, if you apply enough pressure, it will break. God bless you all.

    • @jaydenp4975
      @jaydenp4975 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sorry for the loss of your husband. Thank you foe the comment and sharing with us. TH-cam has been wonderful for me and during times of loss and health struggles it was something to keep me occupied. Much like people who used to watch tv a lot. I don’t own a tv anymore and got rid of cable tv years ago. I still work 11-13 hour days and can’t retire for many years unless I get too sick to work and I’m almost there.

    • @SanctifiedLady
      @SanctifiedLady 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’ve been through a lot. I pray that you are getting better. You are not alone… as a hospice nurse I was in the same space…. All I could do is sleep and TH-cam and eat and repeat. Covid x2 and shingles… mental health took a very long time to feel energy to clean my home. God is my only savor to keeping housing, food, transportation and my pets

    • @medickaisu
      @medickaisu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SanctifiedLady I am much better now. The house sold, I purchased another one and just recently went back to taekwondo. I miss the job a lot. I am thinking that when I get this place renovated, I may look to get back to work, perhaps PRN. Thank you for reaching out. It means a lot to me. We heal. Thank God.

  • @kathleenpovey333
    @kathleenpovey333 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I am 56 years old and have been an RN for a year. I worked in veterinary medicine for over 30 years before making the leap. The hospital started me right out in the ICU. The very first thing they had me do on my first day on the floor was a terminal extubation. I am NOT kidding. No preparation. No debriefing. Nothing. Just get it done and move on. I lasted 4 months in the ICU and I literally lost track of how many of my patients died. It was horrible. I finally transferred to another floor and things got better. But I don't see myself staying with it. I would not recommend anyone become a nurse.

    • @nurseadrianern
      @nurseadrianern ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s a hard no. Protect your license at all costs-even a job. You know there’s a nurse who’s been prosecuted for this

    • @mojavemarlena347
      @mojavemarlena347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sorry you had that experience. They did prepare us for this exact situation in nursing school. I lasted 4.5 years as a nurse before I said “peace out, bitches!”

  • @kathypaup
    @kathypaup ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Nurse since 1986 here, hospital floor for most of those years, medically retired now due to chronic migraine. One of the worst gaslighting things administration did to nurses is convince them that scheduled 12 hour shifts were better for work/life balance, and nurses voted it in. There was burnout before that, but it’s so much worse now. And now they’re busy convincing nurses if they only practice mindfulness it will get better. Being mindful doesn’t fix toxic work environments.

    • @pennycaldwell8141
      @pennycaldwell8141 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      kathypaup, 😅🤣😂
      It seems that mindfulness meditation would be reality affirming and accelerate one's awareness of the crazy practices in hospitals and increase resignations...

    • @annfuller9044
      @annfuller9044 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "burnout" is all about toxic environments (Gentry 2012). The real issue is moral distress and moral injury due to violation of trust and exploitation of the nursing staff (Brewer, 2021). Nurses do need to take care of themselves but the gaslighting is over the top. It is the responsibility of both the nurse and their employer.

  • @lisagardner903
    @lisagardner903 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I retired from nursing early because of the horrible working conditions, nurse to patient ratios, and unrealistic work loads. I was an ICU nurse and got tired of being given 3 to 4 patients, being put on the rapid response/code blue team, no nursing assistants, take out the trash, do our own lab draws, cleaning medical equipment, performing secretarial duties, etc. I felt like I was a slave and that management never cared about the staff. I was always stressed out and felt like I was going to make a serious mistake sooner or later. I agree with Nurse Scott that I really loved taking care of the patients but never had enough time to do it. Our health care system is broken and I would never recommend for someone to become a nurse. Thankfully my husband has a good job so I am a house wife now. I would rate my mental health now as a 8, 9, or even 10. Life is good!

    • @ngo7156
      @ngo7156 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm glad, and kinda jealous you were able to retire from nursing. Lol I've been an RN for over seventeen years now and find it hard sometimes to go into work. I'm fortunate in that I like most of the people I work with but am tired of being short staffed and getting abused by patients and their families. I'm being told by management to document more and more but with being even more short staffed. And management wanting us to make patients and families happy but how can you, if you don't have time to talk/update them and no time to cater to their every demand, example bringing them water, a toothbrush, a clean gown, etc. It doesn't help that on my floor everything, including the pantry is locked so I can't just tell the visitor or patient( if they can walk), to help themselves. Don't get me wrong, I really don't mind cutting up my patients food up for them or getting them water but it all adds up and there never is any time. I work on a telemetry/step-down down icu/dialysis floor in a large teaching hospital so there are so many doctors, NPs, resident, med students, nursing students, then social worker, case manager, monitor tech, secretary, nutritionist, dietician, physical therapy, speech therapy, wound care RN, and many different other specialties and departments. The people are getting sicker with more health issues and it's hard to juggle all with six to seven patients per nurse. Thanks for sharing your experience and stay well! P.S. pray for me! Lol 😆 🤣 💕

    • @lisagardner903
      @lisagardner903 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ngo7156 I would sometimes float to PCU and was given 6 to 7 patients and that floor is difficult too. I honestly felt like some of them were so sick that they should be in ICU. 🙏 Praying for you! Maybe you will win the lotto.

    • @ngo7156
      @ngo7156 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lisagardner903 Thank you! My husband just won $500 from a lotto scratch off the other day,but sadly not enough to retire on! Lol Maybe next time it will be a bigger prize. ; ) 🙏 💕

    • @paulabluestone8007
      @paulabluestone8007 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have added classical guitar to my skills as I love to perform for patients and now iI get paid for it. The battles I fought still anger me however I feel gratitifiedI won some of those battles.

    • @ngo7156
      @ngo7156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulabluestone8007 That's awesome! I bet they love hearing live music, what a treat! 😊 💕

  • @lolaleslie66
    @lolaleslie66 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I was diagnosed with PTSD after my last nursing job.

    • @HallieEva
      @HallieEva ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is very common, but no one takes it seriously. It's like we see people die in sometimes traumatic ways and everyone acts like that isn't going to hurt us.

    • @janelle458
      @janelle458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was a new nurse February of 2020 in critical care and after two years of covid I developed ptsd too. I would scream in my sleep and have no recollection of it except for my husband who would witness it. I bawled my eyes out every time I had to go to work and while driving there would have thoughts of wrapping my car around a telephone pole or driving off a bridge. Thank God I quit when I did or I probably wouldn’t still be here today. I spent 8 months off no work no nursing. And as soon as I returned to a new nursing job it all came rushing back. I don’t think I will ever be able to withstand that kind of pressure in my life ever again and I am a younger nurse.

  • @daphniefarkas5703
    @daphniefarkas5703 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm only a nursing student and my mental health has already taken a dive.

    • @Noktackey1
      @Noktackey1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too, I am working on pre-reqs for nursing, carried hope for second career. But, as far as I go, everything feels soooo wrong. I might end up not applying to any program and just go back to my field which is food science that I already have a Bachelor's in.

    • @SanctifiedLady
      @SanctifiedLady 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s normally horrible anyway as it should since it gets worse. Ppl go in for the money but the money doesn’t last and the nurse doesn’t either

    • @Mayrita77
      @Mayrita77 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Noktackey1Can I ask why things felt so wrong for you? I dropped out of nursing school because my instructor was mean to me and I just wasn't sure the good money was worth my mental sanity and my family in exchange

  • @NurseSelfCareSolutions
    @NurseSelfCareSolutions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Recently, three staff members from our unit, all long-time veterans of my hospital, retired and shockingly passed away from heart attacks soon after. I'm a mental health RN. This has really shaken me up and made me question the long-term impact of our high-stress roles in healthcare.
    Dr. Paul Kalanithi's 'When Breath Becomes Air' resonates with me now more than ever, as it reminds me that life is short, sometimes much shorter than we expect. It's a reminder of how our demanding jobs can take a toll, not just physically but emotionally too. I've found some solace in nature, taking walks to escape the relentless pressure, even if just for a moment. I'm really questioning my job as a 30 year old, with a long road a head of me.

  • @ajyyoung3263
    @ajyyoung3263 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Older nurse for 18 years. Left med tele two weeks ago. Just a few more years til PRN/retirement. I’ve changed to an acute rehab hospital to enjoy nursing again and finish strong. Yes, I Was crying all the time. Stomach issues before each shift for the past 3 years. Couldn’t be all things to all people anymore at my old job. I made the right decision.

    • @lisagardner903
      @lisagardner903 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I ued to dread going to work and started feeling uneasy the night before. One of my friends used to get stomach aches and diarrhea before going to work. 😔

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😥

    • @nancypanko8931
      @nancypanko8931 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is how I feel the day before my next shift…..love being a nurse but do not like the crazy acuity assignments, the rush pace for 12 hours etc

  • @michaelzemen8824
    @michaelzemen8824 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Most people don't even realize how healthcare workers are impacted by burnout. I'm a nurse for 12 years myself. Nobody still talks the fact why burnout is out of control in my profession? It's not the physical & mental challenge that we have to endure. More or less it's not new as the clinical exposure allow us to learn what nurses have to face. There's another hidden agenda that seems tabu & nobody is talking about. I wish I would have known myself the hidden politic that many feel uncomfortable to express the real deal. When you express any new ideas or express anything that doesn't suit the staff, you are being excluded or punished by heavy assignment. So to say your life is on the mercy of a cartel that drive you the way it fits them. There are certain click & group entitled to get easy assignments. They don't get the challenging patients whether it's with acuity, mental & physical or patients family that made someone to be drown. Can you imagine having all of the above at once for 12 hours? All those mentioned are made right under the hospital policy but in reality there's no one who stand up for you. You start speaking up to advocate for yourself & you'll end up in the hater list. In directly you have to endure, not refuse, no complain but allowing them torture you.

    • @denisetorres707
      @denisetorres707 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely true. Never part of the in patient Klick. Use to load snacks on rolling computer and offer them during med pass night shift. This went against the floor standard.

    • @b4glady
      @b4glady ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg preach!

    • @janelle458
      @janelle458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I experienced this my first two years as a nurse and it hasn’t changed or improved. I’ve seen nurses with lots of experience suffer the same fate but idk how they manage to stay for long.

  • @keelinday7828
    @keelinday7828 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    After two years of nursing school and a year and a half as a pct in med-surg, I am exhausted and honestly feel alienated. I feel like this topic is ignored at work and school, and my friends and family simply don't understand. Thanks for talking about this.

    • @ccalexander1924
      @ccalexander1924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same about the family. I was the only one in my entire family to do healthcare and they just do not understand

  • @TheCritter001
    @TheCritter001 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Best thing I did was shadow an RN at the local hospital before starting nursing school. I knew within 3 hours that it wasn't for me. Everyone had attitude with eachother, and I came from longshore work where back-stabbing is a tradition lol I don't make that much as a teacher but it's way less stress and we lookout for eachother. My step-mother is BSN for 20 years; its taken its toll, massive weight gain, depression and just had an episode of Bell's palsy. Really worried about her. Hopefully, she retires soon. props for anyone that works in healthcare, but make your health a priority !

  • @bearsbeetsbattlestargalactica6
    @bearsbeetsbattlestargalactica6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I went through Medical Assisting school 2018-2019, started nursing school in 2020 and left the field altogether in 2021 after seeing the direction healthcare was taking. I feel sorry for those working in healthcare, I know how difficult things are now and know help is truly needed, but I’m thankful I decided against continuing to work in healthcare when I did. I’ll always have an interest in it but it’s better for me to be away from it mentally.

  • @AishaOO
    @AishaOO ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s so unfair cos the employers don’t really care. They say they do but they don’t act like they do. They only care about you showing up at work and use their “counseling sessions”. Smh

    • @lisagardner903
      @lisagardner903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would give this comment 100 likes if I could.

  • @francinepacente7704
    @francinepacente7704 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve been in nurse for 44 years. I’m from Los Angeles California. I worked for a county hospital and we thought for safe staffing ratios for 10 years. Schwarzenegger when he got an office try to stop it. But we fought and we won. With that being said, I went through the aids epidemic, but the coronavirus was nothing like that. We had personal protective equipment. We didn’t know what it was we were protected. We were not protected during the COVID-19 pandemic. Unfortunately, most nurses knew that in 2020 there was gonna be a major nursing shortage. But pile on the COVID-19 pandemic, it made everything just worse. I think you for this input. I’m struggling right now with continuing to be a nurse and this is giving me some insight and I appreciate that.

  • @montanagal6958
    @montanagal6958 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you again Nurse Liz, really appreciate you! I am working at the same hospital where I experienced Covid and suffered PTSD. Found a military counselor specializing in PTSD. I can now go to work without crying before every shift!!! "Stockholm Syndrome" describes the current psychological phenomenon.
    Journaling, hiking and Nurse Liz helps!

  • @Inkironnrum
    @Inkironnrum ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is 3:55am, and I am one hour into watching/listening to your fascinating video. It is another early morning of insomnia for me. Am not a nurse, however, I have been considering a career in nursing. My desire to become a nurse began earlier this year (‘22). But as I type my comment, all aspirations to become a nurse has fizzled away. Not because of watching this video. It is because of my experience working as a caregiver.
    I have been working at a long term/memory care facility, responsible for eight or more residents during a 12-16hr shift. All the residents have been diagnosed with dementia/Alzheimer’s so it was challenging most of the time, but I thrived in assisting the residents. I did so because I had taken care of my mom for 2.5 years, 20hrs per day, 7 days per week. But everything I had worked for, hoped for, came crashing down on me after a series of being physically attacked by a number of residents.
    But before I get into what those attacks consisted of, I became Covid positive due to a client I assisted who had undiagnosed Covid. My manager never provided me with an assessment document before entering the client’s residence. It was a last minute shift opportunity texted by the manager. Missed several months of working with worker’s compensation benefits.
    When I returned to work, I became a walking punching bag for a number of residents. They were never provoked nor was I at any point attempting to de-escalate an irritated resident. Out of nowhere, I would get punched in the stomach by grown men (residents) twice my size. Also, push, slapped and kicked at. But the final blow was when a resident decided to gouge at one of my eyes. Residents with dementia will strike at any moment. I didn’t have the luxury of seeing her attack coming.
    I get to the ER and was informed by the PA of my injury diagnosis; severe cornea damage. I lost 100% vision in this eye. I asked the PA if this sort of thing, being physically attacked by patients is a common thing, her response was, yes, it happens here, too. I felt discouraged to continue on with any field involving healthcare. September, I had my cornea transplant procedure. My vision has been restored, however, I am experiencing double vision.
    I haven’t worked since July 17th. Injury occurred on May 6th, but I found the strength to work the first two weeks of July. The intense eye pressure was too much to function while at work. Now that I am to return to work, I won’t. I am literally petrified to return to working in an environment where I have been repeatedly attacked at. Now all I do is lay around the house and do nothing productive. Fatigue is daily, potentially a symptom from long hauler Covid.
    At this point, I want nothing to do with working as a healthcare provider. But I admire every one of you in this video for what you do, for how far you have made it through the good and through the bad. Also, how much I have learned about nursing through this and other channels. Nursing was my dream job. Now, I’m looking for a job but Idk what exactly it is I want to do. My other dream is to become an author of fiction books. Am currently writing a screenplay and a novel while fighting off depression in bed.
    Thank you for your wonderful channel!

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best of luck to you as you explore whatever you’re passionate about.

  • @steeveekeys1904
    @steeveekeys1904 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My recurrent nightmares have tapered off somewhat since I'm away from the ICU bedside. The nightmares are the same theme, basically being hunted down by someone trying to kill me. Curiously, they bad guys are never successful, I always survive and then wake up. I'm doing much better. Nurses need to take care of themselves...it's tough out there.

  • @HallieEva
    @HallieEva ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most insane thing I had mild anxiety and ADHD that no one thought was affecting me so it was never treated. When I got a nursing job and I got a check-up. "Is it affecting your work?", "Yes," Boom now it's something worthy of being treated.

  • @fracklov
    @fracklov 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just got home from my nursing shift. Listening to this in the car and at the pool to decompress. Im a single mom for 10 years and a nurse for about 15. I always knew I didn’t have enough of a support system but I wish I had had this video earlier in my career. I went along with the go along to get along culture at my old job for waaay to long. I definitely feel burnt out and depleted but I am implementing all the things you guys have spoken about. I do nw realize I have to put myself and family first.

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have to care for yourself to better care for your loved ones and patients. Best of luck to you.

  • @angelsheppard8908
    @angelsheppard8908 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My mental health is at a 2, I'm burned-out and want to quit but what else can I do to sustain myself I don't have the motivation to do anything 🙃. Nursing has broken me

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s heartbreaking to hear. Hope you find something that brings you more joy and happiness to overcome the burnout.

  • @mariekano9730
    @mariekano9730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I left my hospital job as an RN today. I never wanted to work at a hospital but thought I can get good foundation. My mental health drained me so much. I was angry all the time, depressed, the bullying lateral violence, cliques, damn if you do damned if you dont stuff AND the toxic enviornment. The toxicity at my hospital was disgusting! I was always introverted and did my thing but man their negativity and even my manager had too much negativity saying she hated her job. She used to just show up and vent how much she wanted to leave! It affected me so much to the point where I hated showing up for work. Everything was politics! And no matter what I did, how good I did my job, there was always SOMETHING I did wrong. Nothing and i mean NOTHING was good enough. No one around me liked their job and it showed. I told myself I can't work like this. I went back to outpatient surgery and my health is so much better!

  • @bluefamily3937
    @bluefamily3937 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a "it's going to be fine" type nurse too. Been a bedside nurse for 20 years and an APRN for a year....

  • @cathywestholt5324
    @cathywestholt5324 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I lost my sister on hospice just before the Covid shutdown. I am totally alone now. I work at a hospice house. Working in hospice now is so emotionally difficult after losing her on hospice. I have gotten to rock bottom several times. One day I slipped a DNR in front of one of our doctors to sign for me. I told my nurses where they could find it in my desk. They convinced me I needed to destroy it or hide it away so it could not be found because I have two cats depending on me. So....having pets can be a life saver.

    • @feminottiheather3134
      @feminottiheather3134 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s been about 3 years since you lost your sister and now you work in hospice. How painful this sounds. It’s clear you loved your sister deeply and immensely. I can see how your situation could bring you to your knees or worse. I can also see the strength and magnitude of both your empathy and capacity for love as, it seems to me, these have driven you to protect your cats from what might happen to them without you being there for them. That’s some mighty potent empathy and capacity to love you got there Cathy. Mighty potent.

  • @ajyyoung3263
    @ajyyoung3263 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Only nurses get it. Totally agree with Nurse Adrienne. ‘EAP’ at work doesn’t even get it.

    • @nurseadrianern
      @nurseadrianern ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TY & to clarify it may help-however it is not confidential as many assume. Employers def could have beefed up those programs by now

    • @paulabluestone8007
      @paulabluestone8007 ปีที่แล้ว

      EAP is a joke and a lie designed to make b you think they are helping you.

  • @shanmcdonough2933
    @shanmcdonough2933 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Everyone here brought me to tears including superchats and comments - Thank You for sharing - I became an RN in my 40s after having a BBA in Accounting- I assure you I never imagined anything like this 😳 - you can start over if you want - 60 in a year - thinking what can I do next!?!?!

    • @nurseadrianern
      @nurseadrianern ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ❤❤Yes nursing was my 2nd career. And now I’m on to the next career

    • @sheridan1887
      @sheridan1887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a BSBA, accounting. went back to school for my BSN, been an RN 16 years now. I like to do crafts-make soap, candles and sew. Looking to see what I can get into next!

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had a friend in nursing school who was an accountant. Why in the world would you switch to nursing?

    • @sheridan1887
      @sheridan1887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MNP208 why not? to help people. and I made way more money than in accounting, right from the start. people think that accounting is a 'cushy' job, well, its not! I worked for 3 accounting firms, miserable!

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​ @Whitney Russell No, accounting isn't "cushy", but these days you can work from home and you won't ruin your back. I can't imagine a nurse today making more money than a CPA unless you traveled recently during the pandemic, or are working a ton of overtime (or maybe you live in CA). I know I'd make more than $65.000/year as an accountant. That was my most recent outpatient full time salary. In fact, my two children (both in their 20s) are making *WAY* more money than me, they have job flexibility and more time off.

  • @ExerciseRiderMissE
    @ExerciseRiderMissE ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so glad I found this episode. I've been a nurse (LPN) for 6 years. I did home health for the first 4.5 years and now I work in a nursing home (LTC/Skilled) (Side note: Yes, I have had two jobs most of my career... I am might be a borderline workaholic) . Started in nursing home in March of 2020... LOVED it! Until recently. A lot has happened this year in my personal and professional life. I told my DON I would like to switch to PRN ASAP. I told her since we are so short staffed I can work a little while longer than my two week notice, but I would like to go to PRN soon. It is so hard to leave my "Battle Buddies". The floor staff that I have worked with and spent so many hours with these last two plus years have truly become my family. Thankfully, I'm going to still be PRN, my mind just needs a slight reset. I'm anticipating it will only be for a little while.. we'll just see.

  • @frenchysandi
    @frenchysandi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently retired from 35 years of hospital behavioral health nursing. Graduated 50 plus years ago, working in med-surg, skilled nursing homes, case management and community nursing prior to working with psychiatric patients. The mental health nursing took a huge toll I have some persistent ptsd symptoms like hyper vigilance, big responses to loud noises, ect. There is a sympathetic acknowledgment from management but no actual empathy, poor recourses and a lack of understanding by management.

  • @nataliap2705
    @nataliap2705 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wanted to be a nurse so so sooo bad in my 20s that despite having a college degree I started from the bottom as a CNA and to put a long story short for one reason I decided to not pursue it. But after covid I am SO GRATEFUL I didn’t pursue it as I would’ve mentally collapsed. Im soooo angry about how nurses are abused taken advantage of and a lot of it is rooted in sexism. Honestly I’ve zero idea how you all do it who are active. All I can say when I see a nurse or doctor is I feel a tremendous sense of gratitude coupled with concern. We will fight this battle and win. For what it’s worth the uni hospital in my town the nurses are trying to unionize which is unheard of. It’s amazing to hear you guys being so honest abo it where you are at! I personally today am at a 7. BIG HUG TO YOU ALL

  • @ursulasmith6402
    @ursulasmith6402 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Management, wrong answer. No health and dental should be owned by corporations. The European and Scandinavian model should be adopted and introduced. Europe and Scandinavia have best health care, ever. No one gets doctor bills. There's no competition. No one is burned out. The work very well balanced. I couldn't live in America, ever!

  • @barbloft
    @barbloft ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Initial thoughts are that I am loving this topic and conversation!
    I just paused at minute mark 15:45 so that I can comment on what Nurse Scott just said about earning the right to be in the trauma room. It may be TMI, but I am tearing up as I write it. It has been a couple decades since I worked in a level one pediatric trauma center.... and I still carry some of the weight of those traumas. I've written poems about the kids and situations as a way to cope. But the words you just said, Nurse Scott, that I earned the right to be there, hit it a strong way because it really WAS an honor to be there trying to help those children in their most dire of moments.
    Thank you so much for that! Now I'm gonna listen to the rest of the discussion.... lol

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But I'm hearing stories of EDs being full of new grads. have they earned the right?

    • @barbloft
      @barbloft ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MNP208 My thought is that the earning comes with time... nobody shows up for their 1st shift in the ER already with the badge of honor.
      But the reality is that we all have to have our 1st shift somewhere, sometime. And then the 2nd, and then the 3rd ...and then the earning begins at some point.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barbloft Agreed, but it must be so hard for those new RNs.

    • @barbloft
      @barbloft ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MNP208 Yes! Thrown right into the deep end of the pool without floaties!!

  • @AD-wb5eg
    @AD-wb5eg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got burnout after COVID and left the nursing career for good!

  • @theworldoftaj
    @theworldoftaj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you all so much for having this conversation. Nurse Liz, thank you for your very honest advice and for sharing your experiences so openly per usual. Much needed content! Sending you all Love because we all need more of it

  • @sag1970
    @sag1970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank god you chose this life long " job"..... i m alive, ...60 years ago, i would not have lived beyond 18 yrs. thank you. please stay focused,on your gift of compassion. we have all faced horrendous events, people all over the world need to love &support each other.....

  • @Kats163
    @Kats163 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    every video I watch continues to inspire me to make it through. Just took the first two tests in ABSN program. I am glad that there are so many amazing professionals out there working toward a better healthcare system. I want to be one of them too! I also appreciate those on the panel with different paths, as a new nursing student at 40 I worried my brain is not as quick as my peers, but apparently I am not alone. Thank you for all your input, I want to ensure I follow this advice and keep my mental well being.

  • @AgapeLove878
    @AgapeLove878 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hope you all realize , it's time to change healthcare. I know you said you hate nursing theory. I would suggest you all revisit the older nursing theorist with an open heart.
    If you keep trying to make nursing work in the corporate model , your going to have a miserable life.
    Start to notice the patterns of who's dying , why their dying.
    Look at all cause mortality. Please do not normalize coming in contact with death in typical hospital settings.
    I have been a nurse for 20 years and have never witnessed a person dying.
    You need to see ...
    Don't normalize what is not normal...that is part of the insidious gaslighting...

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's hard to believe. Maybe you work in a highly educated, unusually healthy community? I've only worked outpatient and I've seen a few people die in my clinic over the years. A patient who went to PT short of breath rather than calling 911. 😥 A patient died in the car on the way to the clinic... the family member thought the patient was "sleeping". Overdose dumped off in the parking lot. Cardiac arrest, etc.

  • @ellenlawler3561
    @ellenlawler3561 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for addressing this. I am a 30 year veteran nurse with over 23 years in critical care. I am currently studying coding and billing to get out. I am completely burnt out and I want to recreate myself so I can still contribute using my analytical skills without dealing anymore with direct contact to the high emotions we see or have on a day to day basis. The politics are what underscore the issue of burn out. I think I am fine and still love taking care of these people who are just so sick and so terrified and then someone I work with acts up or out and instantly I feel like walking out. That's not normal to feel this way from 1 bad interaction. That's burnout though and the contributing factors started 30 years ago when I 1st stepped out onto a med surg floor as a new grad reg. nurse. A very grandfatherly chest surgeon I was working with took me to the front of the desk after rounds (ambushed me) and started calling me names and blessing me out for a chest tube set up mistake we discovered together that I had nothing to do with either by the way. So my first months as a brand new grad working in another country because of NAFTA and I'm already fighting the doctor then later on administration and unfortunately learning very quickly how nurses eat their own. It makes you tough though thats for sure.
    I am currently the lead electrophysiology nurse in our cardiac cath lab and I have been the education nurse in our department for several years. The pandemic affected us in a completely different way but glaringly we felt very much left behind when it came to anyone in admin giving a crap about our well being in this. It wasn't until a doctor of ours made waves that we had any form of plan to protect us and everyone else with appropriate PPE and isolating STEMI alert patients into a particular lab we use less that is nearest to our back door entry from the ER to minimize full lab contamination. The nature of the covid illness allowed for this to happen more times than I care to admit because heart failure and MI in an elderly person often has a very similar presentation to covid 19 SARS. Many hours or even days later that individual wouldn't respond as they should to therapy and would be tested and Oops guess who has covid and oh by the way you were exposed. Sorreeey.
    I think EAP is a great tool when it isn't being weoponized by your employer as a means to get you on a path to termination without recourse. That didn't happen to me by the way but I thought that was where it was headed so I quit and left the country to go home for 2 years. So it just depends on who asks for the referral I think- you or them. I think the old saying of the 1st step is to admit you have a problem is applicable here for sure. Lol. There is no shame in seeking expert help to sort out all the stress and find ways that can help mitigate the negative life impact of these stressors.
    Again thank you for what you are doing to help others!

  • @Shapeshifter2023
    @Shapeshifter2023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I lost my mother during the pandemic and she died alone, I had covid and could not travel. Then lost 3 other family members , from other situations…I also experienced u professional behavior from staff and an unsupportive partner. And the EAP, when I called, at once faculty was no help. It was tough.
    And I had so much empathy for my patients and their families of course !!! Seeing young people pass away…& yes I saw how my coworkers crying … and upset.
    There was a time I had thoughts of ..😢😭…
    Thank goodness I’ve got help …& it’s a process .
    God help us all ❤🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @carleighrousseau4226
    @carleighrousseau4226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    44:00 omgg I was hanging onto every word here, Brigitte! I’m entering graduate school for the same reasons, have a family history of substance use etc. nursing is killing my spirit! loved this whole video! And so thankful we have this virtual community of nursing support ❤️

  • @shanmcdonough2933
    @shanmcdonough2933 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank You everyone here - appreciate everyone's stories

  • @jro0807
    @jro0807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Love all your content and “real”-ness. Much appreciated and refreshing.

  • @cookeeee1962
    @cookeeee1962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We are cruel to ourselves and to each other. That's nursing .

  • @GirlofNicky
    @GirlofNicky ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gaslighting! Yes! I told my manager about a serious situation regarding containment of Covid and she said “you’re the only kne who has complained@ when I just spoke to 5 nurses who had the same experience. It was straw-manning me too.

  • @theriv132
    @theriv132 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wasn't in the human medical field but I dare day the veterinary medical world is just as bad if not worse. Very high rate of suicide...I had a mental breakdown and had to leave the field...still haunts me.

  • @bethannsmith4969
    @bethannsmith4969 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We had to find someone to replace us to be off for fun or sickness. No union in my area . It's insane that I did that for a decade.

  • @Briannadawn20
    @Briannadawn20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t see many nurses doing anything except drinking, I try to reground myself with breathing exercises to calm down and relax. Works most of the time.

  • @deena681
    @deena681 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The healthcare association sold out the healthcare workers. The AMA, APhA and ANA do not do a great job of representing their members but they do a great job of representing hospital corporations.

    • @bethannsmith4969
      @bethannsmith4969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Associations are there to protect the public from you not you from the public or the employer

    • @feminottiheather3134
      @feminottiheather3134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bethannsmith4969 I am humbled just now because, like Deena, my perceptions of professional nursing associations needed some tweaking. Thank you Beth!

  • @pokengurl7
    @pokengurl7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you all! Pivoting is okay. Changing your mind is okay.

  • @heatherbeckerle6968
    @heatherbeckerle6968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this episode! Much needed

  • @jenb1672
    @jenb1672 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just listening to this gives me anxiety 😱 I just got fired for the first time from my recent LVN long term care job, they did me a huge favor 🙏

  • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
    @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’re right Scott, reframing is everything. The unrealistic demands of the medical facility have nothing to do with our abilities and it’s important to protect our mental health. I’ve found that volunteering at non profits has helped me.

  • @lori5946
    @lori5946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a codepend and working on my stuff. So a lot of dysfunctional toxic environments working in the hospital. I am aware of my mental health. If I feel like working extra fine but I am a travel nurse. I witness where they use and abuse the staff. The current assignment they text me every week asking me to work extra. I don't get breaks t my current assignment. I am getting a divorce right now. Trying to take care of my self. I do travel nursing since 2018. I don't work 12 months a year. I take breaks. I am doing this till I have enough money and strong enough to do something else.

  • @s.p.baughman7885
    @s.p.baughman7885 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Being a Nurse is hard work ...some Nurses glamourized it because they are brand new and have not been in the field long ...I have been a Nurse a long time and it is emotionally ,physically ,mentally draining ...on one hand you are helping with the healing process ,you are being there for your patient ,family but it is so stressful and so easy to get burned out...

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, that’s why it’s paramount that we take time to replenish ourselves.

    • @lasvegasnevada7514
      @lasvegasnevada7514 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve noticed this how they glamorized it. No wonder many non-caring and narcissist are attracted to it due to job security and pay.

  • @julieparker8553
    @julieparker8553 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My thinking is in stressful situations ( working ) we need to be kind n humble n sensitive to each everyone. Not everyone can handle n process it in a good way, at these times you lean on your coworkers ( your teams )
    Love each other
    I believe in taking care of each other !
    I have lots of love n admiration to our nurses n all who work in taking care of our patients!

    • @kiaharper7172
      @kiaharper7172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol yes that's all good in theory. Being good and kind and humble to everyone. In practice it doesn't work like that.
      Too many personalities working together 😂

  • @LP-fz5xm
    @LP-fz5xm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good to see Professor B!!!

  • @pammorgan9447
    @pammorgan9447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My mental health is 2.
    . I am working toward a career change. I am suffering from burnout. Receiving mental health treatment. My place of employment is having staffing issues. Moral is low.

  • @melnelrn400
    @melnelrn400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I graduate with my BSN this Saturday. Thank you so much for all of this info! All of you have so much amazing information and encouragement. This isn’t an easy job I’ve chosen, but hearing reality is very grounding. I love hearing what Scott has to say because I’m going to be an ED nurse at a level 1 trauma center. Adriane, I’m sorry you don’t speak to your family but you have a family in us. Your wisdom and experience are beyond measure and I really appreciate all you’ve taught me. Liz, I’ve been watching you since I applied to nursing school and you’re my favorite. I’m late to the profession- I’m 48. I was a stay at home mom for many years, but I feel like I’ve been called to be a comfort for people on the worst days of their lives. Thank you for these round tables and please don’t stop!

    • @melnelrn400
      @melnelrn400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And YES! Nursing school absolutely starts the abuse. Our entire orientation day they told us we would fail at least 20 times as well as informing us we could have no lives. I’m at the end and I can tell you it’s very much an “us against them” environment. Nursing schools should do better.

    • @mymomsaccount2024
      @mymomsaccount2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome congratulations!!! I'm 48 too and still attending nursing school and I'm exited no matter what I put all of my efforts and optimistic attitude positive I'll be working with nice people and making a great life out of being a nurse

    • @SweetUareDesi
      @SweetUareDesi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@melnelrn400it’s the Deans mostly

  • @sportsmom64
    @sportsmom64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20 year bedside nurse handling the stress daily. Med/ surg and the designated floor for Covid. Have been volunteering to work MORE to help out when we are super short as I feel horrid for those who are stuck working. The money's great but I am ready to leave EVERY SINGLE DAY. Economy in the tank and I will lose so much on my house, my retirement, etc but it's getting to the point that I don't even care. Pondering where I could work that would give me a similar pay to work in a more positive environment. Recent management change has even made things much worse.

  • @akferren1
    @akferren1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Spent 33 miserable years in “healthcare” which is really big pHARMa care and you’re not helping anyone.. happy to leave and you could not pay me to go back ever

  • @Al2022
    @Al2022 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've seen dead bodies and cleaned maybe two so far....it messed me up.... I cried a little the first time...
    last weekend I saw someone have violent seizures....it threw me off I was worried for the patient... it was really a shock kinda for me ..

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It can absolutely be hard to see, and the fact that we are just asked to compartmentalize that, while yes, it's part of the job, is a lot to deal with esp. with help not available to us. You are not alone in this!

    • @Al2022
      @Al2022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NurseLiz thank you for saying I'm not alone! :)

  • @jimmyjosmith1143
    @jimmyjosmith1143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A big issue is they want you to waste your time and money on classes you will never ever use and make it much harder then it needs to be in general that’s a big issue. I have three sisters who are nurses and they talk about great people who quit or failed along the way over ridiculous stuff that would of been amazing nurses for example they never ever use math and they give you tons of classes that just make no sense. So ya burnout is so high. I work in mental health and yes we have nobody to help due to low pay, high cost of school and again so many un necessary classes so by the time you get in field your over it.

  • @mojavemarlena347
    @mojavemarlena347 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this to try and revitalize my love of my nursing career. Nope! Thanks for reminding me why I left and why it would be absolutely silly to go back!

  • @michaelb31
    @michaelb31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such an important topic. Good to hear your voices. I will add, as it is my pet peeve with panel discussions, I heard so much from 3 on the panel, but not as much talk time from the others. Perhaps just the three should have been on panel, however, I would have loved hearing more from the others.

  • @sisterrae181
    @sisterrae181 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this was posted a year ago but it is all still so valid. 27 years as a nurse here and the last 14 were in mental health care. I bas burned out before the pandemic but did not want to leave my little hospital during a pandemic but that was definitely a factor. It has been a year since I left work and need to go back but I honestly just can not wrap my brain around any nursing job I see. I feel a bit stuck.

  • @annfuller9044
    @annfuller9044 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No way could I teach people to be a nurse. I couldn't sleep with myself.

  • @purplegirl8036
    @purplegirl8036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which is why I’m so scared of being sick. It too much money snd if won’t get good care.

  • @hearme4581
    @hearme4581 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a sitter in my local hospital, working through Covid along with psych patients. I’ve had enough. Working in the hospital environment is can be negative and anxiety drivin. You see some much sickness.

    • @Inkironnrum
      @Inkironnrum ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for being a sitter. After an eye procedure, a sitter was at my bedside for at least 30 minutes. She comforted me mentally and physically while I was in so much pain. I shared a story about an angel with her. She was so attentive. After I was discharged, her and a nurse sent me a get well card in the mail. The message inside the card, from the card company, was about angels. I will never forget her. Because it was eye surgery, I never had the opportunity to see her face.

  • @emilierodriguez3448
    @emilierodriguez3448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really appreciate the discussion you brought to light, but I wish that more people were able to speak more. It felt like 3 people were talking most of the time.

  • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
    @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our self care and mental health is a top priority otherwise we will continue experiencing burnout and compassion fatigue. I recently shared a video about this on my channel. The pandemic extremely took a negative toll on many people not just healthcare workers and yes it overwhelmed and aggravated the already burnt-out mentally and physically exhausted workforce. Stay safe and best of luck to all healthcare workers. Great discussion. “Remove all toxins from your life!” I agree with you Adrien.

  • @nataliap2705
    @nataliap2705 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ya I can’t listen to this it makes me want to cry. The misery of healthcare, this is what happens in a broken society. This affects every single individual.

  • @annfuller9044
    @annfuller9044 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sorry I missed this. I finished my dissertation based on this less about 9 months ago

    • @nurseadrianern
      @nurseadrianern ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can you post a link to your dissertation

    • @LisaCapron
      @LisaCapron ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d love to see that dissertation, too! I’ve finished my masters in nursing education and am hoping to be starting my doctorate end of October.

    • @JessM20_
      @JessM20_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations on finishing your dissertation.

  • @whatshername1003
    @whatshername1003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I left a hospital system and now work as a MA in a family practice. I already had PTSD from COVID. Now Im mentally burned out from having to try to get medications and procedures authorized by insurance companies. And our patient do die. You build a relationship with patients in family practice and they may be in one day for an appointment and end up in the hospital and they never make it back out. I love my job and my patients but the circle of madness from the insurance companies is frustrating and patients need there meds and all I can do is fight with the insurance company. And sometimes they will not approve it and i have to tell someone sorry the med that was working for you all these years there no longer goning to pay for. Its heartbreaking.

  • @Rich.Staples
    @Rich.Staples ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad Scott is your co-anchor.

  • @kates6371
    @kates6371 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m really trying to advocate for this at my work place! We need community

    • @dustin4450
      @dustin4450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Advocate for unconscious male patients too! A LOT of female nurses do some WILD things to innocent defenseless unconscious male patients under anesthesia
      Most commonly going up to unconscious male patients and lifting their gowns up for NON MEDICAL REASONS but to laugh and gawk and sexually humiliate them then further sexually degrade them by gossiping about their genitals even to other women outside the hospital. I could go on and on and on and on with stories.
      I had surgery few years ago, I woke up in the recovery room with 4 female nurses hovering over me giggling and talking with my gown lifted up to my chest. I kinda sat up a bit, I guess they realized I was starting to come to it a bit, one quick pulled my gown down and the other 3 left the room right away. I asked a couple female nurses I know about it, they confirmed what I already knew, female nurses who were paid 80 bucks an hour to watch me sleep post surgery decided to sexually humiliate me while I was unconscious. Made me really sad, I am/was VERY RESPECTFUL to all the nurses I was dealing with, always said thank you a bunch of times, was very kind to all the nurses before surgery, not that that really matters, but for them to be cool with me prior to surgery and I was nice to them, then they wait until I'm unconscious and they all shuffle in and sexually humiliated me is insane. I asked a couple female nurses I know about it, they confirmed what I already knew, they said it's not every female nurse obviously!!!! But they said the lifting of the gowns on unconscious male patients happens ALL THE TIME. Every hospital has a bunch of female nurses obviously, so chances are good unconscious male patients will run into at least one of them. One told me about a local TV anchor who had surgery, word spread throughout the female nurses and female employees in the unit, so afterwards while he was still sedated from anesthesia, probably in the recovery room like me, 30 o so female nurses and female employees and female secretaries probably quick shuffled in and lifted his gown up, they thought it was HILARIOUS to sexually degrade him like that. So.... out of 30 female nurses NOT ONE had a conscious to stop it or report it???? Kinda disputes the "few bad apples" argument. The nurse who told me about it wasn't even there, wasn't her unit, but since female nurses gossip about male patients genitals she heard about it. Even had a Male nurse tell me stuff he saw and heard female nurses do. How when female nurses hand of an unconcious male patient to PACU. It doesn't matter where his surgery site was, could be his ear, female nurses will NON chalantly lift their gowns up when going over the handoff, he said it was obvious, and no regard to cover them up.
      I know the drill... you tell us how you, NEVER heard or seen this happen before". Ya ok 🤣 And even the female nurses who dont partake in this sick n twisted female nurse ritual of sexually abusing innocent defenseless unconscious male patients BUT turn a blind eye to the ones that do are JUST as complicit, they absolutely would report it if it were male hospital employees doing this to unconscious female patients but they ignore it because its being done to male patients by female nurses. You NEVER hear a female nurse defend unconscious male patients from this sexual abuse by female nurses. What's INSANE is that female nurses obviously have their own fathers, SONS, brothers, husbands, etc and they FULLY know that they helped create an environment either by participating in it OR OR OR ignoring it that THEIR OWN sons a d fathers and brothers WILL face the same sexual assault they inflict on other women's male loved ones. Gee thanks moms! Unbelievable

    • @dustin4450
      @dustin4450 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clarahadel5037 thank you! Ya I think female nurses see lifting up gowns and giggling and mocking unconscious Male patients as "harmless fun" . Its not. Sadly I think a lot of these female are just narcissistic people. I GUARANTEE you that if any female nurse found out that 15,20,25 Male nurses went up to them and lifted their gowns up to gawk and judge and laugh they would be MORTIFIED and would sue the hospital for 20 million dollars... but yet they do this to Male patients without batting an eye

    • @brandywillis3998
      @brandywillis3998 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dustin4450 Please report this. It is not normal behavior. It's unethical and abusive behavior. Don't you have a compliance line or officer to report this behavior?

    • @dustin4450
      @dustin4450 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandywillis3998 this was a few years back. No I didnt report it. I know I know I know, it's all my fault because I didn't report it right? Listen.... I dont think it's a stretch to say %97 of Male patients will NEVER even know what happened to them, obviously because of anesthesia. THATS THE WHOLE POINT! Female nurses obviously know when to do these things. I just happened to wake up. I find it VERY interesting that Male patients who do wake up always seem to witness stuff. The ONLY ONLY ONLY way this will change is if female nurses POLICE THEIR OWN. THEY need to report things when they see or hear it. Its NOT up to unconscious male patients to report stuff!!!!! You HONESTLY mean to tell me when a bunch of female nurses shuffle in and out of a tiny recovery room when its certain male patients in there the female supervisors or fellow female nurses who arent partaking in this stuff dont know what's going on??? Give me a break!!!! So if you saw 5,6,7,8... 20 Male nurses shuffle in a tiny recovery room constantly when a good looking young female in there, you or your female supervisor wouldn't look into it??? You know what I mean??? I think asking the unconscious male patients under anesthesia to police this and report this is ridiculous. Change HAS to come from within. I mean from what I gathered there are ZERO measure being taken place to monitor this stuff. ZERO. Female nurses have free reign and free access to ANY unconscious male patient they want it seems. It's hard for you to understand being a woman, the surgeons are basically the only men that women encounter when they are sedated at hospitals, and there are probably 4,5,6,7 other females there watching over the female patients before, during, and after surgery so female patients are never left alone with Males ever. Male patients don't have that luxury. Male patients have to BLINDLY trust that nothing shady is going on. More recently I have a colonoscopy. Woke up in recovery room, didn't notice anything shady, but again 2 female nurses in there alone with me and BOTH were on PERSONNEL cellphones were out. Would YOU feel comfortable waking up from being unconscious with 2 men in a room with you with their personal phonea out with cameras? You know what I mean? So NO if change is going to be made its NOT up to the unconscious male patients, %97 of which will have ZERO memory of anything. Female nurses HAVE TO police this their own. Dont hospitals ever do any type of quality control or monitoring on this stuff ever? Evidently not. I GUARANTEE you, give me some resources n some money I could find things shady in ONE day at a hospital. But take the story I told you about the local TV anchor who had THIRTY, yes 30 or so female nurses do this to him. Let's say a female nurse did have a conscious and report it. What would they have done? Fire 30 nurses out of a unit??? No, the female supervisor wouldve just verbally reprimanded them. If that! Female nurses know this stuff is NEVER monitored when it comes to male patients and they know they have no repercussions, plus it only takes 5 seconds to do this to an unconcious Male patient, doesn't take elaborate planning. And let's say I did report this back then, I had a big surgery, I was in the hospital over a week afterwards. You dont think word would spread if I had filed a report against the female nurses that did that to me? I mean I would've had to be there another week, encounter 30 more bedside nurses, what if one of them was best friends or friendly with one o just filed a report against??? I could go on and on and on with stories too. Men are typically too humiliated to say anything so you dont hear them, but we endure WILD things at hospitals. I dont believe even the good female nurses dony know the bad ones. At EVERY place of employment EVERYONE knows the bad ones. If its SUCH a small percentage then they could EASILY be weeded out. Like I said since its male patients, nobody cares and nobody EVEN LOOKS for anything that's why this continues to happen

    • @brandywillis3998
      @brandywillis3998 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dustin4450 No one blamed you. Every hospital has ways to report these things confidentially. It's your duty to report. If people don't report it, it will never end. It isn't normal. It isn't okay. It doesn't happen everywhere. I've been a bedside nurse for 30 years. I've seen one similar case, and I reported it. The person was fired. Plenty of women and children are also abused in this way and in ways a thousand times worse. Do you actually think these things only happen to young men. Grow up, and do something when you see something. All your typing in the youtube comments sections accomplishes nothing. As a woman who's been raped, and was sexually abused in childhood, I also think you need to get some counseling for your trauma. Maybe counseling would help. I know it helped me.

  • @Wolfgoddess56
    @Wolfgoddess56 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just went to a new doctor yesterday for depression and bad thoughts. Realized im not as strong as i think but im too weak to go through with checking out. Which is a very good thing. I finally am getting help after suffering for way longer than i should have. If you even have an inkling that youre depressed. Go speak to your pcp or a friend or family.

  • @joelbangayan1443
    @joelbangayan1443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this

  • @kates6371
    @kates6371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m rewatching this episode. It’s so powerful

    • @kates6371
      @kates6371 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I’m watching again

    • @kates6371
      @kates6371 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I’m here again

  • @catmom1322
    @catmom1322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I became an RN in 1975. For all that time, I worked in critical care areas. I listen to nurses on TH-cam talk about the horrid conditions they work in. I really wish I could say something important to help them, but I guess I just somehow made it through the horror. I earned several advanced degrees & went on to academia & became a professor, which meant I was teaching rather than doing the nursing care. I'm retired now, but I didn't leave "early."

    • @kiaharper7172
      @kiaharper7172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, I'm glad.
      It's great you were able to have a successful, fulfilling career before nursing become nuts.

  • @DNYS8N
    @DNYS8N 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    About 6 months ago I was wheeled out from our stand up meeting, BP 60/30, P40s, no cardiac history, healthy. The stress is what it is. 30 years of nursing and my worse year was probably this past year.
    I’ve looked to get out but truck driving isn’t my cup of tea and I’m not a good craftsman. I tried years ago to get out, actually went to Hollywood. That world is worse. I’ve run out of options so I’m trying to embrace the suck.
    It is rare to have good decision makers. There is tendency to insulate bad leaders. I don’t expect too much support even with a channel like this. Most of us are just trying to not burn out.

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So sorry to hear about the hardship you experienced the past year. Hang in there. On my channel, I always recommend that healthcare professionals have a plan B, such as an investment where you won’t be desperate to stay at a job that is costing your mental health. Best of luck to you.

    • @DNYS8N
      @DNYS8N 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wealthandwellnesswithGracei ended up creating a position within my home health agency.
      I stopped with full time case management and now work prn. It pans out to about 36hrs hrs a week and although I make 10% less a year when you do the math it’s worth it!
      The trick was that the particular company had barely any presence in my county. As the case manager I helped to open up the county but after it got too much I went prn I only do regular assessments which take so much less time charting (home health nurses know the problem of how management assigns an unbalanced point system)
      So I figured out how to make it work. Surprisingly I also am more productive in 36hrs than 50hrs. The system not only works against nurses but against itself because of poor leadership and a system that is over burdened by burdensome regulation
      I knew I couldn’t keep going down the burn out road so I had to figure out what I could do in my situation to find balance and for now it made a world of difference. I even turned down a few jobs I had applied for because I am actually finding purpose in creating this prn job.

  • @robinriebsomer4607
    @robinriebsomer4607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am retired from psych nursing and substance use counseling. The other elephant in the room for nurses is substance use disorders which results in diversion of opiates by some nurses who have this illness. I worked with the monitoring program in Indiana for 13 years. One study indicated that 1 out of 3 nursing students had one addicted parent. So, they have a genetic predisposition for addiction and many adult children have depression. Our Board of Nursing became much more punitive towards nurses with substance use disorders as the members of the Board changed. FYI I worked a year in med-surg from 73-74. We had 51 patients on the ortho floor and just 3 of us. It was me, an LPN, and a nurses' aide on 3rd shift(11p-7:30 am). Of course, the patients were not as sick.

  • @nanas.s.e5687
    @nanas.s.e5687 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I often think on my way to work that I would rather be dead than work another day on the floor as a nurse. I always imagine the subway or bus crashing so that I don't have to go to work. So on a scale of 0 to 10....not great :(

    • @wealthandwellnesswithGrace
      @wealthandwellnesswithGrace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s disheartening, I hope you seek assistance to improve your mental health and wellbeing.

    • @melissadelgado3381
      @melissadelgado3381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I switched specialties since this post. Going to the ICU literally saved my career and has significantly improved my mental health related to my job.

  • @SanctifiedLady
    @SanctifiedLady 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a self harm episode… because I mentally couldn’t go back to work after leaving a job and when the next job called I caused enough self harm not to be able to go in public for a month and took 3years to heal and the scars are still visible to me. Sad part it was after an online therapy session the lady kept repeating “STOP SHITTING ON YOURSELF! STOP SHITTING ON YOURSELF!!” I couldn’t grasp what she was talking about and she left me raw and I could have just ended it. I sent her pictures of what I did after my session… she should lose her license. Very poor communicator to keep saying what she said with no explanation or solution. 😢

  • @reneefletcher1143
    @reneefletcher1143 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a medical assistant for 10 years and the last 4 years in Family Practice for a UC medical system had me so fried. I’m thankful I didn’t pursue a RN career (with large student loans to pay back). I switched to authorizations for a specialty hospital and life is 1000x better outside of direct patient care!
    The burn out doesn’t only apply to RN’s & NP’s..that’s for sure. Doctors are pushing more and more work onto medical assistants (rooming, assisting, connecting with patients, refills, mychart messages, phone calls, injections, scheduling, etc) It almost seems like the MD’s are somewhat stress free, spend their time checking EMR boxes but they’re passing all the chaos down to MA’s.

  • @pedinurse1
    @pedinurse1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im an RN, I have been saying this for years, I dont have a masters, I dont teach but am very observant. NO ONE LISTENED. NO ONE

  • @ajyyoung3263
    @ajyyoung3263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5000 points of contradiction!!! Yes!

  • @mojojeinxs9960
    @mojojeinxs9960 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know my importance of my position at work was when the corporate office working from home got vaccinated before us front line staff taking care of covid infected residents. We don't matter never will.

  • @NurseSelfCareSolutions
    @NurseSelfCareSolutions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I work as a mental health RN. Interestingly enough, there seem to be a higher number of staff at the psych hospital where I work with some sort of mental illness, anxiety disorder, etc. While the stress of the job likely exacerbates symptoms, it is clear that people with their own personal issues gravitated to the hospital. Either way, being in a profession where we are constantly providing support to others can often mean that we overlook our own mental health needs. I've seen firsthand how crucial it is for healthcare professionals, especially in mental health fields, to have access to proper support and self-care resources. It's a reminder that taking care of our mental health is not just important for our patients, but for ourselves as well.

    • @SanctifiedLady
      @SanctifiedLady 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tons of people go into mental health because they or someone they know suffer so it’s familiar and personal. It’s not as heavy to them as a securely attached person.

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! , The knife , the Rope , Where is Dr.Kevorkian ... Pills ? :\ !!!!

  • @annfuller9044
    @annfuller9044 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When Nurses check out there is no record and it is shut down on top of it. I have so very much to say and it isn't the time because I'm not on with you.

    • @montanagal6958
      @montanagal6958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      would love to hear your thoughts...did you publish?

    • @pokengurl7
      @pokengurl7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to hear more.

    • @shanmcdonough2933
      @shanmcdonough2933 ปีที่แล้ว

      I make comments even if videos are years old - please share - we are here

  • @ccalexander1924
    @ccalexander1924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am beyond burnt out in radiology. There is a national shortage . I’m having to do 3 peoples jobs. I’m def going to quit within a year. I have to start all of my IVs, research implants , help change some id the patients , scan them , do all of the paperwork required , never get any breaks or lunch not even on a 12 hour shift . I’m having to pick up extra shifts all the time , stay well past my scheduled shifts , take pager call and get called in for routine exams. I have yo sweep and mom my own floors , take out the trash and sometimes change the lightbulbs at work and order supplies. Just exhausting. I do take sleep pills to sleep bc I can never just fall asleep . I can never wait for the shift to bd over with and I dread going in. I hate everything about my career. I’m exhausted , stressed out and very unhappy

    • @janelle458
      @janelle458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s awful. Save yourself and get out of there ASAP!

  • @NurseBillBennett
    @NurseBillBennett ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was working in the hospital on the floor this past weekend when the wife shot her husband. I want out of nursing don’t know what else to do.

    • @Scaretok
      @Scaretok ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Also I heard about that I’m
      So sorry

    • @reneefletcher1143
      @reneefletcher1143 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve worked at 2 local hospitals and the phone triage nurses seem pretty happy.
      I spent a few years doing insurance for a GI/Endoscopy Center and the procedure RN’s seemed pretty happy there as well. Hours were Mon-Fri, 6am-2:30pm with the same repetitive (yet very manageable) weekly EGD & colonoscopy procedure workload.

    • @kates6371
      @kates6371 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine

  • @Plantbasedjems
    @Plantbasedjems 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have any of you wonderful people heard of Kevin Bennett's book, "Who helps the helpline when the helpline needs help?". It's fairly new and has helped me immensely. I commend you all and thank you for sharing Xx

  • @gunchief0811
    @gunchief0811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    word!

  • @eunicepamplona4545
    @eunicepamplona4545 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nurse Scott, I'm thinking about going back to NP school but I'm 41 years old. Is that too old?

  • @pennycaldwell8141
    @pennycaldwell8141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spinning wheels keep on turning and lack traction, and go nowhere...
    Move into the solution, if that's the intention.

  • @pierreroyer3329
    @pierreroyer3329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    French nurse and got a burnout

  • @michelegamble9557
    @michelegamble9557 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel bad 4 your panel.. most of the time, they never get 2 speak.. I've learned a lot from you and panel.. I just seem to hear a lot of contradictory things from you yourself you want to be a great nurse but you're stressed, you get no sleep, you get gas lit, too many patients, on and on. Wouldn't want to have you as a nurse on a bad day. You actually scare me. I've had lots of experience being the patient. So sorry to hear how stressful it is for you sounds just overwhelming to hear you speak. just how miserable it is to be a nurse.

  • @taraellis7630
    @taraellis7630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to be on the zoom meeting next time

  • @juliachambers725
    @juliachambers725 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With surge of COVID to units again we are revisiting that stress state again. We are getting more patients/more responsibilities/ pushed to the limits/ leadership that doesn’t care/ listens and thereof understands. $$$. I’m not good.

  • @crazy8adventures553
    @crazy8adventures553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I work in alcohol and drug rehab. OMG...ya'll have unions.