The Time - The Bird (Unreleased Studio Version)
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- An unreleased studio version of "The Bird" by The Time. The released version is from a live show that The Time did on October 4th, 1983 and that version can be found on The Time's 1984 album "Ice Cream Castle".
More information about this recording from Jesse Johnson:
Prince called for me to come out to his pad late one Wednesday night in the cold of the winter around 11:30pm. He stated that the song I had given him, he reworked and Morris would be there as well. So I drive there in the middle of the night (cause I ain't stupid and I'm trying to get on) after arriving at P's crib, only then do I find out the song is already recorded. I had nothing to say, because the track I gave him was a joke compared to what he came up with. He absolutely killed the track, and all I could say was "Damn Dude"!
Now here's where the shit gets funny. Prince's Ampex 1100 24 track machine starts tripping and will not rewind, so ask me to rewind the machine by hand and Morris is laughing his ass off, and course I'm like "Man fuck that, you be better call Don Batts (his tech) to fix that shit!" Prince is now cracking up. We have to finish the song, so I go "WTF" and start rewinding the machine by hand. P could see what I was doing so I had a drum stick on the reel where the holes are rewinding the machine, by the time Prince sees what I'm doing, he yells "what f**k are you doing Jesse?" Rewinding this raggedy ass machine, I said, as he jumps up to come look at the tape to see if I damaged it in anyway he sort of trips over Morris who has this long ass q-tip type things that are made for sticking in a solution and cleaning your tape heads, so before he could reach me he's yelling Morris to stop using his tape head cleaners to clean his ears! Now I'm on floor, because Morris would always do that and Prince had told him a thousand times before not to! Needless to say we got the track finished and the rest is history.
The three of us together were always cracking the hell up, but it was really Morris who was absolutely funny as hell and he and Prince would have me crying with the interaction between the two of them. They were absolutely great together and did some seriously great music together. For me as the "Original Outsider", I always felt fortunate to have been invited to be a part of the greatness.
Please enjoy the track.
LovePeace,
Jesse
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I JUST heard about this 30 seconds ago in a Morris Day interview....
TH-cam is undefeated...
Same came straight here after Morris told Vlad this version was better
I never heard this one before...and he was right this version is way funkier
Me too bruh
Haha Me Too!
Me 2
Absolutely
Skipping school in my house was equal the death penalty, but in 1983 I told my mother I was not going to school because I wanted to stand in line (so I could get a good seat) to see the greatest band I'd ever heard called The Time, Mom look at me and said The Time must be some bad MF's ...you got my permission to skip son !!
This hits harder
That was fugged up for Prince to pull this version & have them do it live! He KNEW this was gonna hit. Damn...
Better than the music they play today 🎧🎵🎶🎤❤️❤️❤️❤️
Morris day, Jesse Johnson, and prince.
Morris Day Vlad interview brought me here. Had to hear this studio version! I hope the Prince Estate will someday release the Vanity 6, Time, & Sheila E. unreleased music.
Much better than live version.
This one’s way FUNKIER!
I totally agree
100%..
Mr. Nelson's LM-1 drum machine beat is "In the pocket'..So, is his Synth bass. Jesse says he played that bass all in 1 take with no edits.
I’m sure this is Prince on vocals (possibly the rest of the track too). Listen to the spoken word part @3:30 and you can hear it’s definitely him and not Morris
Prince, one source said, didn't want this version in the movie. He wanted the live version from the movie on the album.
The original version is still best. This one doesn't take off like the live one does.
The word genius is not enough to describe this dude.
Both versions hit. The live version was all members playing. The studio version was Prince, Jesse, and Morris.
These cats had their ups and down but all in all it seems from the stories being told by Morris and Jessie that they had fun together when they were working on music.
It almost seems as if they really didn't view Prince in the way fans of his music did. They just viewed him as Prince the guy they'd known before he became huge and that never changed despite the success Prince had.
The one thing I get from all of these guys is they knew Prince were their way into the music business because Morros tells the story that at one time when he was with Prince's band Grand Central, that his mom was their manager and she had been trying to land them a record deal to no avail then Prince gets a deal with Warner Bros and the rest if history.
It's different when you grew up with him, everybody's just friends/brothers doing they shit. Y'all done did stupid shit together the whole nine and one day you get your shit together lol you need friends that done give no shit about what the rest of the world says about you to remind you "hey man...we just got out of class last week! This your first big check bruh don't get crazy out here."
I always preferred the studio version over the live version they released. Prince decided to release the live version.
Nice! Haven’t heard this version yet. I like how it’s a bit slower & the groove sounds more in the pocket.
This is why I prefer this version...
Never EVER heard this b-4. Pretty good version.
This version is slower and funkier too.
yeah this one slaps harder
Bass 💜
Prince made the right decision
Morris said in a recent interview this is the version he wanted on the album but Prince decided to do a live version and use that one. This one is a bit more funkier.
I heard that too. I prefer this version
AGREED, Morris. This version is moooore hiiiip!!!
I've never heard this version before and I loved it.
Stripped down..Dirty..Gritty..Minny Funk! Yesss...✌ ✌
Morris Day mentioned this version on VladTV
When I first heard uptown funk by bruno Mars I thought of these guy's. I was surprised he didn't tap them for a collaboration. I think it would have been a bigger hit for him.
Prince knew what was BEST cuz I like the live version on the album better. More RAW and clean, greasy funk.....
Glad this was scrapped...😬
Nice and i guess this was the unfinished unmixed and unpolished product and it stills sound great....but that finished released product blew shit out the water!!!!great share
Too funky 💯 !!!
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!!!!!! (I need some chili sauce!!!!)
Wow,sounds so clean and crisp!
wow!!
This version is WAYYY better
Legendary
Fantastic! Thank you for uploading this.
HALLELUJAH..........
I remember Jesse Johnson posted this version on his Facebook page...I think I remember Jesse saying that he showed Prince the idea of the song. He went home and Prince finished it along with Morris overnight, and this is that version...Recall him saying that he was blown away at all of the layers and everything Prince added on to his initial idea of the tune..
Jesse posted Jungle Love..Not this.
Jesse did NOT give "The Bird" to Prince; Jesse gave "Jungle Love" to Prince. Prince wrote the "The Bird"
@@2010Gullwing Sorry, my info was a bit off, bad memory. Jesse started the idea of it. I found his post about it...
"Prince Played Guitar (Actually played everything) On Get It Up!
I played guitar, bass, & keys on: "Bite The Beat" Vanity 6 (I wrote music on 4 track & Prince wrote lyrics. It was my first publish work. Played it on a purple metal flaked Morite guitar just like Sugarfoot & the original guitar player with the B52s. That guy was amazing)
I played guitar on "Gigolos"
I played guitar on "Live Version The Bird" Prince played everything on the studio version "The Bird" and it's sick!
(I wrote a 4 track version on 1999 tour, Prince kinda like the hook, he threw the rest of what I did in the trash can as he commenced to write and performed a straight heater)
Morris & I recorded a song name "Old & Ingnorant" in Mpls the next day M & I fly out to meet P. In LA, at Sunset Sound he dug it and the track was rerecorded, rewritten, and became "Ice Cream Castles"! And John McClain "I did perform all the guitars on Ice Cream Castles"✌️👏👏👏
(Prince kept telling me "It's so cool how you played the bass on the AND instead of the 1" great compliment even though at that time I didn't know what he was talking about...yeah of course I do now!)
"The Kid" is a strange and funny story. We were at Sunset Sound are engineer was always Peggy McCleary (Later married became Peggy Leonard) and she was absolutely an amazing engineer. She and later Susan Rogers (P's engineer), were to of the best engineers I had the pleasure of working with. They both endowed me a great deal of knowledge that I'm still utilizing today, thanks ladies👄👄👄
Back to the story: Morris who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "Kid", but he kept speeding up Prince tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it's funny the P and I thought this was a really good resolution. Morris out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, Morris was the only one that knew how to drink. P & I were real amateurs, honestly...real pu$$ys when it came to drinking. I still am just ask Terry or Jerome one drink and my a$$ is through. To this day I still don't drink. Any, Prince & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don't feel well, etc, etc) will I'm playing the DRUMS on "The Kid" and of course all guitars.
Jungle Love- Saved my food $ the 1999 Tour came home bought a Tascam reel to reel 8 track recorder and came up with music for JUNGLE! Prince every word+melody and kilted it😆
I was very honored to write with the Cat. He didn't eff around. You had to bring it, you had to earn it if you wanted get put on. P. Would call at all hours, he clubbed a lot and we would record after the clubs close regardless of what coast we were on. (I could never stay up with Prince & Morris. They were so seasoned & I was a complete newbie nerd light-weight)
I played guitar solo on "My Drawers" P played rhythm guitar + everything else! except drums, that's Mr. Day.
Morris Day on Drums:
"Cool" "The Stick" "Oh Baby"
"The Walk" "Wild & Loose" "Girl" "Gigolos" "Bacon Skin" "Tricky" I
(I can't remember anymore it getting late...off t00oooo...zzzzz)
I hope this sheds light on some questions you may have had. It's the truth. Unlike a lot people writing books, I was there."
LovePeace,
Jesse cfffgggchzzzzzzzzz
@@bmentlow no worries. Thanks man, cool stuff.
@@bmentlow nice
I like the faster version better!
Nice! I was reading about this in the book "Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions: 1983 and 1984" by Duane Tudahl
Currently reading that and came to hear this as I'm on that part.
I’ve been reading it all evening, listening to each song as it comes up in the book.
@@markvarnado4097 and the 85-86 Parade-Sign O the Times comes out June 7th!
thank you!!!
This version slaps but the live version was the way to close "Ice Cream Castles"
Wow I don't know which one I like the best, Both are FUNKY AF!
Jesse posted this on Facebook a few years back. The funny thing is he referred to it as a demo.
Thanks, Jesse! 🙏🏾🎶❤.. (AKa. One thee baddest Axe men ) in the business.
Holy Shit…….I’m lovin this version
YESSSSS!!!!!
I seriously like this version better more funkier
OOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DaTime wuz DaBeast 2!
Oweeeeee!
Oh my god I’ve been looking for this chicken grease.
Raw funk!!! Love this version better
This the version morris wanted on the album but prince told them they were gonna record it live and use it on the album
DIS AIN'T JOHN CENA,BUT THE TIME IS NOW.
Jellybean 😎
Morris 😎
Prince😎
Minneapolis finest!
Too funky. Only thing missing is the extra licks and added bass tail.
Live version 4 sure
The live version is 10 times better Prince should have let The Time play more on those records
Yes definitely.
The live version is on the album
🤡🤡🤡🤫🤫
@Rell T 😂😂👍💯
Very nice, but I’m going to still favor the live version that was released on the album
it sounds like prince
do I hear Alexander O'Neal's "Fake" bass flav?
Yep n fish net
Nah man, fake is more straight funk.
oww......
The One Thing All Of You Is Missing... Listen To This Real Closely.... This Is A Recording by PRINCE AND NOT MORRIS....it's prince playing everything... put some headphones and its not morris or on the album... PRINCE,,,,,
Its clearly Morris singing and very well may be Jesse John on guitar, those three were thick as thieves and spent many nights in the studio together during these years. Not my words, the ones that were there have all mentioned this. Jesse's guitar cadence is definitely here.
I think the decision was sound - this version sound almost like a 1999 rip off...where as showing the, doing it 'live' and using the movie version was better - you didn't question them that way like with this one. This could have been on the album but the single and video, etc should have been te live version like in PR. Smart choice.
That's Prince speaking at 4:44.
Nah that’s Jesse
@@SoDope29 Thanks. You're right.
I understand now why he feared them.....
hey bird, can ya teach turtle to dance past that hook and speed up, sloth too yo, thanks bird.
This version marks the album version Morris day was right
this shoulda been the single other one was cool not like this
@VladTV brought me here
I’m sure this is Prince on vocals (possibly the rest of the track too). Listen to the spoken word part @3:30 where you can hear it’s definitely him and not Morris
No it's Morris
Y'all do know this is just Prince on all instruments and vocals, right?
drwood1962 no, morris is singing the lead fox.
drwood1962 that's prince on lead... i can hear him
Morris, Jesse and Prince
It's all of them. Prince gave this song to the Time, reworked after Jesse had given it to Prince, for the movie and their album. He made money on both ends. Musical and financial genius.
@@robstark6899 Jesse didn't give this song to Prince, Jesse gave Prince "Jungle Love"
Vladtv
Would be interesting to hear The Time and Prince...without the cheesy electric drums...
They're such a key element to the Minneapolis sound though.
Those are live drums. Put ya ear goggles on
U must not be familiar with all of Prince's work.... I'll leave it at that!
Cheesy electronic drums? Prince's work with the LM-1 was groundbreaking and very innovative.
No it wouldn't