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- With war broken out between France and Aragon and Joanna of Castile in the French court, and Catherine of Aragon's ships stopped by storms on the sea on their way to England, Isabella I of Castile is overwhelmed by fear and worry for her daughters.
Isabel s03e09 - Joanna and Philip arrive to their kingdoms
'Isabel' is a Spanish TV series about the life of Isabella I, Queen regnant of Castile, one of the most important Spanish monarchs, from her childhood years till her death after 3 decades of ruling.
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I think one of the things I love about this show is how it portrays motherhood/parenthood. We know in history that the children of royals were basically pawns for alliances, but here you have Isabella, who was very protective towards her children and her children grew up close to their parents. With Isabella, especially in her regards to her children, we see how sometimes she toes the line between thinking like a Queen versus thinking like a mother
Scotti Brown I agree with you, I also love the way Isabel is portrayed, torn between her love for her children and both her and her children's duties to their country. Michelle Jenner is an amazing actress. Like you I look forward to Lilli's posts from this amazing series.
@@bluebellthesecond8353 I agree . I never saw an historical drama before where family relationship, in this case between mother and daughters , was carefully and deeply portrayed. Just fantastic.
Another impactful and beautiful part. I have always said this and I will say it again, the actress does a beautiful job of balancing Isabella's duties as queen and mother, sometimes mother taking presedence. You can't blame Isabella for being terrified for her daughters. She's already lost two children and two grandchildren, and I don't blame her for being scared of losing anyone else. For a parent, losing a child is the worst possible outcome. She would sack the world for her kids but all she could do was pray for them and hope.
Good that she didn't live so long to see Catherine's humiliation!
Or what happened with Johanna
'The Spanish Princess', compared to THIS masterpiece, is garbage. Isabella's emotions are stunningly well portrayed! And what else? Historical accuracy to the point you get to live in the moment!
"Isabel" and "Carlos , Rey Emperador" are indeed masterpieces. My favourite historical dramas by far.
However, I admit that I enjoyed " The Spanish Princess ", I enjoyed to watch a young Catalina falling in love , and coming to terms with her new life.
Of course there wasn´t historical accuracy as there is in "Isabel " and " Carlos , Rey Emperador." But in my opinion it was very enjoyable.
At least they didn´t commit horrible historical innacuracies as it was done in "The Tudors"( season 1 , I think, ) when the writers portrayed the king of Portugal ,(who was the richest king in Europe, and an educated and respected man, )in the most ridiculous and even offensive way for the portuguese ).
@@Belinda8881 The Spanish Princess is a grave insult to a *real* *martyr* with *Catholic* views and strength. I'll leave it at that. Oh well. You are entitled to like it ofcourse, darling!
@@MadoliaSteel I guess that by real martyr with catholic views you mean Catalina de Aragon. I agree that she may be considered a martyr because she suffered physically and suffered humiliation upon humiliation that she didn´t deserve.
I respect your view but I , myself, was raised as a Catholic ,I´m a Catholic and fail to see how the series can be an insult to a"real martyr"with Catholic views.
On the other hand I just think that the writers just wanted to give a more modern twist to Catalina´s life, especially to her teenager years and early twenties that were still so unknown and had never been portrayed on screen before.Of course there were big historical innacuracies.
And I think that this is a very" english "version of what really happened. No doubt that if by any chance, the plot and the series had been witten in Spain , it would be a completely different version.
@@Belinda8881 Well, I didn't like the modern takes as to me they made no sense. 💜 You are entitled to love it as it is an attempt of artistic freedom!
@@MadoliaSteel And what modern takes made no sense to you? The fact that a XVI century princess behaved like a very independent and shrewd 21st century woman when she decided to make Prince Harry fall in love with her ? The historical inaccuracies ?The fact that a princess raised in the Catholic faith in the xvi century wouldn´t dream about lying about whether her marriage had been consummated or not,, and would pray and go to confession more often ? The multicultural aspect ? Forgive me for asking, but I´m a little curious.
As desperate as she is her daughters had the worst of lives 😔
Except for Maria, who had a relatively good life for a princess in those times. I also think that Catherine, though known as the miserable repudiated queen of Henry VIII, lived more happy times in her life than most queens and achieved much more. Though her last 10 years were indeed miserable, before that she also had high times. The first decade of her relationship with Henry was very loving and happy. Henry fell in love with her during her difficult years between Arthur's death and Henry VII's death. She had the chance to know love and live in love which was a rare privilege for royal women. She was also very beloved by the English and also had the chance to serve as Regent, she even led the army and won a battle against the Scots. I would say, she lived much happier times and also much unhappier times as others.
@@Lily1127channel I think you´ve got a point there. I often wonder whether Catalina in her years of happy marriage could have been even happier than Maria.
I love the lines: "¡no voy a entregar a Castilla ni un hijo más!" she is just sick of being queen and having to sacrifice so much.
Isabel: allow catherina to know peace and fortune.
God: Haha no
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when you're a mother and lost 2 of your children and 2 of your grandchildren in front of your sigh..., you wouldn't say such a joke.
Poor Isabella. She never imagine the humiliation her doughter Catherine will sufffer. 😢😢😢😢
Poor Isabella, rest in peace ...
5:25 This storyline seems fictional not only because Henry VII's wife Elizabeth of York was alive at this time but also because Margaret of Austria was already married to her second husband. Also, as long as Emperor Maximilian is alive and wears the imperial crown, it is his privilege and his only to form alliances by marrying off his daughter, Philip could do nothing about it. No chance he could arrange marriages for Margaret without Maximilian knowing it and consenting it.
Also, Ferdinand's reaction about this marriage plan seems such a nonsense. Why would a marriage between an ally of theirs (Habsburgs) and other allies (Tudors) would go against him and his countries? 🤷♀️ And how come he interferes in other countries marriage alliances, giving orders to the Emperor himself? Sure, he was very powerful, but not that much.
Lili1127 You are so knowledgeable and I have learned much from you. I find myself confused regarding this time in history, but you have made everything much clearer with your explanations. Thank you very much for taking the time and energy to translate this show in English. 😘
Hablas con la tipica historia grafia anglosajona sobajando la importancia hispana
@Francisco Gutiérrez Y cómo? Yo reconozco la importancia hispana totalmente, no soy ni de Inglaterra ni de ningún país anglosajón. Mi conicimiento de história no esta basado en libros ingleses.
Sólo digo que un emperador como Maximiliano tenía sus propias ideas sobre el matrimonio de su hija. No tenía que hacer lo que Fernando le dijo. Era un soberano poderoso, y Fernando, por poderoso que sea, no tenía mucha influencia sobre él.
Lili1127 cierto!
Why are they discussing Henry VII's possible remarriage to Margaret of Austria at the same time when Princess Catherine had only just sailed to England to marry Prince Arthur? I'm sure Henry VII became a widower in February 1503 by which time Arthur was already dead???
Another sad reality....... basically at this momentum, Isabella's daughters were her only blood relation left that she knew. By this point she only had two grandchildren that she didn't and would never know
The NEED to give an Oscar to Michelle Jenner right now!
I love Louis' portrayal!
Gran actriz michelle jenner :)
Such a brilliant actor Ms Jenner is!
This series is FAIR. it showed how the spanishs were non-developed in Atchituture not as Advanced Muslim Arabian archetiture in Granada that time.
Wasnt isabella dying when catherine was sent to england ....
Catherine sailed to Englamd in 1501, Isabella died in 1504
@@Lily1127channel i see. i always thought she's already sickly at that point, thats why catherine's trip was delayed several times
@@danilovesstrings Her fatal illness was very long (cancer probably), so maybe yes her health was already deteriorating around 1500.
Isabella's health started to fail in 1502. She was depressed most definitely but not dying here.
Juana hizo sufrir muchísimo a su madre. La que más
just wondering since almost every other portrayal of isabel and joanna isabel has joanna tortured , since i havent seen this series in full yet , i wonder does isabel here have joanna hung with weights attached to her feet? isabel here does not seem like she would do that
That torture thing is a fictional nonsense The Spanish Princess invented.
Where can i download the whole series from?
Amazon Prime or Claro video.
Didn't she literally torture Juana in real life for not being a believer?
No. That is a fictional invention by Philippa Gregory and The Spanish Princess. The real Isabella and Joanna were very close and loved each other very much, proved by their loving letters to each other.
No, that's a dark legend. The same legend also says that Isabella only bathed twice in her life, on her wedding day and the day she conquered Grananda and we know that was not true.