I love how Ana Torrent played Catherine. No tears, no screaming but powerful. She appears to be extremely calm but not emotionless. Ana Torrent's acting perfectly demonstrates how wise and sophisticated Catherine was as a Queen, and how professional Ana Torrent was as an actress.
@Hel V Excuse me!!! I know my history Ok! I know this series is BS but it doesn’t take the fact that Henry was pos!!! Anne Boleyn was another wh*re not even a princess and her daughter’s life was pardoned by her half sister Mary! If not that 🐩 would’ve been never known!!! Yeah you’re welcome 🍆
@@LaKellita I don't understand why people like her so much nowadays. Although Anne didn't deserve to die, she was still a horrible woman, especially when she was "queen". She was very vengeful. Queen Katherine was the best Queen of England Britain has ever had.
@@bobettepancakes Exactly, she got karma when he lady in waiting Jane Seymour became queen after her and took place as Henry’s mistress, but Anne was a kind person most times it’s just the fact that annoys me is that she had hated CATHEIRNE and wished her dead
But Anne had the last laugh. Her daughter became the greatest queen of England Elizabeth ! 🇬🇧 having a male heir accomplished nothing in the end for Henry the 8th.
@@MarsMellow84 she wasn't the greatest queen of England at all. She just lived the longest. The only reason why she is remembered as so great is because she was a Protestant.
@@lilstrawberry6063 lowkey agree but I mean Mary was not a monster and while I think Elisabeth is overrated way way overrated she was kinda a Bitch and I am American and even I know she was a bitch I mean look what she did to the Irish she also got lucky with the Spanish it had nothing to do with her smarts out winning nah the weather changed if the weather had stayed the same England might just be part of Spain today also wtf would she not great with Spain her sister Mary was half Spanish and if you look at how she ruled it was very much like Catharine of Aragon
@Lil Strawberry I know is been a year, but still gonna reply. Well, she did not. End look, Elizabeth I brought golden age to England. Sorry for my garbage English.
@Hel V Yes, she lived in castles, but they were not luxurious, or even comfortable castles! Henry made her live in cold, uncomfortable, dark, unkempt castles in unhealthy locations. And she didn't 'live' in castles, she was imprisoned in them. And yes, Henry would probably have not executed her, but Catherine genuinely believed that he would, and she was prepared to be a martyr. Henry's men came to her and told her that if they asked her to sign that oath and she refused, Henry would definitely execute her. Most of Europe at that point believed that Henry would execute Catherine. Catherine's friends from court warned her about a possible execution many times. Even the emperor warned her about it. And I'm pretty sure she was protecting Mary and the Catholic Church rather than her own rights.
A real royal queen, with Trastamara and Lancaster ( through her mother the queen Isabel I) blood, with more rights to the English throne that the stupid Henry. And because she loved England deeply, doesn't begin a civil war
This icon of yours, has fasted while pregnant. She might have killer her babies! All while convinced fasting was way to please the God, so that he would gift her a child...
Jane Haylay she is postulated to have suffered from anorexia. Many historians have looked into this theory and there are many signs that she was anorexic. The woman likely had a diagnosable mental illness in a time when the concept did not exist.
Jane Haylay do you... realize what you’ve just admitted? Yes, Catherine of Aragon’s fertility must have been affected by her fasting, but she did it believing it would *help* her children by pleasing God. That’s like blaming a medieval physician for using leeches to draw blood from a patient because people had the misconstrued notion that it would work at the time. She had *no idea* about how terrible it would be for her undoing children- she was trying to *help* them!
Jane Haylay addiction wasn’t even a concept back then. Remember, this was when explanations for various phenomena was either that god made it so, or it was witchcraft, etc. Superstition and prayer was often all they had. She was a woman with a strong sense of duty, a complete devotion to her king and England, and desperately wanted to provide England an heir. She didn’t have the tools or knowledge to cope with underlying issues she had. Her fasting and her religious devotion are just examples of her exhausting persistence in trying to have a healthy child. She, and the world in which she lived, lacked the tools or understanding to know that what she did was possibly harmful.
Hija de la Reina Isabel, la Reina mas grande de la Cristianidad. Reina de Castilla, Aragon, Cerdeña (mi isla), Sicilia, Napoles y de las nuevas tierras atlanticas.
@@Dawn-qi5erspanish inquisition? All false!!!! Forma parte de la conocida como "Leyenda Negra Española" inventada por los enemigos de España (UK entre otros). La inquisición española fue una anécdota si la comparas con la británica o la francesa, que esas sí fueron realmente crueles y masivas.
All these women fought amongst eachother but hindsight is 20/20. They were all remarkable politicians and charismatic leaders of their socio-political factions and Henry was an unfaithful, montrous madman who nearly bankrupt the crown.
And left a realm in religious civil war that would last trough all his children's reign to his heirs, just bc his simple minded ass wasn't content with a daughter Mary who would have been raised by Catherine, daughter of the extraordinarily succesfull monarch Queen Isabella of Castille and wanted a son.
I mean in 2021 anne would be a greasy slick politician I mean yes great but pretty fucked up policies you can bet on that but Catharine would be that one person who could run for president anytime and win by a legit landslide ( no hate to Biden he was just the lesser of two idiots .) but does not wanna run cuz she can do more good by just posting TH-cam videos about how the middle and working class are the real Power either way both women would be amazing
ME: I thought Catherine was say Belofed of the people then realized its Beloved. CATHERINE: WALKS AWAY LIKE A BOSS!! ALSO ME: WHOO! RESPECT! YOU GO GIRL!!
La mejor reina de Inglaterra...amada por el pueblo...sin miedo se enfrentó a Enrique lo que significaba la muerte. Hasta el día de hoy es amada en Inglaterra 😍
Everyone talks about which queens they like and dislike, and Katherine vs Anne vs Jane, but can we all just agree that Henry was an absolute cad who didn't deserve any of his wives?
@@quantasiumI was watching another documentary. It pointed out something that is completely glossed over by a lot of people. She actually committed treason by telling Sir Henry Noris “you look for dead man’s shoes, for if the king was dead you’d look to have me”. I mean her arrest to execution was very fast. Henry had people executed for less, so the fact that she said that is what really sealed her execution instead of divorce and being sent to a nunnery. She said the wrong thing, at the wrong time.
As much as I feel bad for Anne, she wasn’t a saint either in her own right. Catherine of Aragon was the true victim and was the one who suffered the most under Henry. Anne may be a fascinating historical figure, but COA will always top over her.
@@luxetveritas9196 However, it was later recognized by medical historians that the heart becoming black is not likely due to poison but because of cancer.
this is my Favret part of the movie Catherine is showing that she will not let anything go with out a fight and she is not giving up her right as queen and she is not letting her hubby call their child illegitimate
Henry only ever thought of himself only thinking I want what I want when I want it and I get what I want because I want it. And didn’t deserve Katharine
Too bad they did not include Katherine's speech to Wolsey. The Shakespeare account has her speech where she tells Wolsey exactly what she thought of him.
@@alexanderfoote6153more like infatuated or grateful that she produced him a male heir. If she gave birth to a daughter, Henry would have her easily disposed.
If its true that Anne Boleyn was waiting in the hallway for Catherine to walk by into the court she had figurative balls of brass! I would not have shown my face anywhere near Catherine!
@@6ftofmisery636 Anne actually did for a while. It was until her family’s suggestion that she should play the long game of becoming Henry’s new queen. Even though, Anne wasn’t a complete demon and is definitely less in the wrong than Henry is, she still understood of what her actions were going to result in.
ALONDRA PEREZ-RAMIREZ I’m not sure if people really admire Anne Boleyn but they respect the fact that Anne gave birth to Elizabeth I. I think people are sympathetic to Anne’s case that she was executed for charges that were false because she couldn’t give Henry VIII a male heir.
In my opinion people adore Anne because she was mother of Elizabeth and she was executed, and most of them cecognize Catherine as a dowdy and boring woman.
@@suzanner1630 They both had troubled relationships with their husbands. They both tried their level best to save their marriage. They both were humiliated by their husbands. And they both died with a broken heart. TTwTT
Le film deux soeurs pour un roi est un film magnifique et les acteurs et les actrices sont fantastiques dans le film deux soeurs pour un roi. J'aime bien ce film deux soeurs pour un roi.
The actress who plays Catherine is excelent, but the former queen was very diferent. She was blonde, with blue eyes and palid skin. I don't know why in the movies insist to represent Catherine of Aragon like an old and ugly woman. She was not¡¡¡¡¡
Actually, if they were to portrait her realistically, she would need to be really fat. Just look at her portraits, she was never as slim as she is presented in tv shows and movies nowadays. She already came to England plump.
First of all, she's the right age for the role and speaks with a thick accent as should be (she learned English as an adult). Second, she is a beautiful woman. Third, she's an accomplished actress. In fact, the director must have been really excited to have her, Ana Torrent is a legend.
@@j.b.2263 Problem with her portraits are later copies of originals(especially in 19th century) that look nothing like her! So I will show you few that are originals, or earlier copies, which are more accurate. 1)2)3) Sittow's three portraits. I know some claim it is Mary Tudor(Queen of France), but it looks nothing like rest of her portraits and plenty as Katherine's daughter, Katherine's other portraits and matches perfectly her description of times when she came to England as young girl. Cca 1502-1504 they were done. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Rose_Tudor_(CatherineAragon%3F)_by_Michel_Sittow.jpg commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CatherineOfAragonMadonnaMagdalene.png 4) Copy of lost original(copy made by Wenceslaus Hollar in 1652, but he was known for his accuracy in landscaping...and matches style of early 16th century portraits perfectly.) Probably made in 1510s, given type of her clothes and youghthful expression. www.rct.uk/collection/421499/katherine-of-aragon-1485-1536 5)6)7) Two miniature portraits and monkey portrait. Made around 1525/1526, first one is probably most telling... www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw01143/Katherine-of-Aragon (and we know it is her, because she wears one of jewels of Queen of England, which we can see on other portraits of Henry's Queens.) Second you don't recognize as her straight away. www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw191234/Katherine-of-Aragon?LinkID=mp00801&role=sit&rNo=2 Until you compare it to larger version of the same portrait-the portrait with monkey and see it is exactly same costume! upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Horenbout_Catherine_of_Aragon_with_a_monkey.jpg She is definitely really round in her face, especially in first miniature... 8) Lost portrait which also showed jewels of Queen of England. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Catalina_de_Arag%C3%B3n%2C_por_un_artista_an%C3%B3nimo.jpg Even though it is 18th century copy, the costume is time appropriate, hands holding also, her embroidered chemise, her gable hood, the jewels, her features are there, the bust is there(as can be seen in other portraits of the time period, even hers, big bust was not considered immoral, and shape of the dress really made it go up...). So if all this is accurate, I'd say even in original of this portrait she was not really slim at all...
I just noticed that Queen Catherine and her official ladies in waiting are all wearing Tudor gables while the two Boleyns are wearing french hoods. I loved how Ana Torrent portrayed Catherine of Aragon. I loved the way she said, the boleyn wh*res. Lols
If this moment-in-time really happened Anne Boleyn was utterly shameless to face off Catherine in that way. If I saw her coming in my direction after everything that transpired, I would have crawled under a rock.
Anne deserved what she got after ruining this woman's life with that man what was she hoping. To live happily ever after in luxury that Catherine's dowry brought in the country Catherine saved from invasion with a man that did wronged a woman like Catherine that much. I don't get why people call her intelligent...
You should probably learn more about History if you think Anne had the power, fyi Henry chased Anne for 7 years, and when she ran away from court so the king could forget about her, he managed to find her. Her family also pressured her a lot. Demonizing Anne is so stupid. Anne was very educated,i don't get this comment.
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj anne distant herself only to make henry become more obsess with her. She's manipulating him at the start. Henry expects anne to be just his another mistress but since Anne is ambitious, she want him to make her his queen. Also all woman in that period are used as pawns to give their families titles and prestige. It's not just anne who is used by his father. Just look at Jane seymour, Marie antoinette etc.She then only lost her head when she falls deeply inlove with henry and couldn't give him a son at the same time
A man and a woman go into a bedroom; take off all their clothes, climb into the bed and; Do I have to finish this sentence? If it takes both the man and woman to procreate a child. Given that both are the progenitors of that child. Why is it that any laws regarding this impose liability on the woman. Why is there no vicarious liability on the man that impregnated her?
I mean you only spoke truth cuz she’s hate worthy the way she treated mary it’s one thing to treat the ex a way but the child umm Henry is also not at fault he never should have allowed Mary to be treated like such but as we know childhood trauma fucks up children Mary was 100% the product of childhood trauma thanks to Anne I mean Jane ,Anne C,kitty H and cat all treated his children even Elisabeth like they should what the fuck was wrong with Anne why could she not treat Mary with kindness .
Catherine was documented to be fair skinned, blue eyes and slightly redheaded. The actress portraying did a great job nontheless, but her coloring was not properly researched.
that doesn´t matter!!!!!! Enough with that bullshit! Did you know netflix made a series with Anne Boleyn black? so? whats the problem with her hair..Besides, it's not that bad, 90% of Spaniards have dark hair. The most important here is a good actress
Sorry but I will never believe that Catherine of Aragon and her first husband Arthur didn't consumate their marriage. They were married for 6 months! Sorry, not buying it.
Really ? Do not forget that it was not a love union but a political one. I think they wanted some time to get to know each other, they were both very young and thought they had their whole lives ahead of them. Later, Queen Catherine swore in the name of God that King Henry was her first husband, so (she was a virgin). From the point of view of atheists, only empty words, but Queen Catherine was a deeply religious woman, she would not risk her soul being damned forever. I believe her.
in those times the royals couples, specially teenagers ( think in Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette , or Peter of Russia and Katherine, were months, even years before consummate the marriage) also Arthur suffered tuberculosis At that moment , and THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THOSE YEARS THEY SINCERILY BELIEVE IN GOD, THEY WAS NOT CYNICAL LIKE NOW....Katherine NEVER COULD LIE JUST TO MARRY A ENGLISH PRINCE. She COULD RETURN TO Spain AND MARRY ANOTHER ROYAL PRINCE WITH MORE POWER THEN THIS STUPID HENRY
But she actually was the Queen so....what is your point🤔? That rule only applies to people who are not actually what they have to say they are. She was the Queen but her king was an unrighteous king.
Keren Acosta I get the reference. It’s still stupid when applied to this centrioles, however. Just because Tywin Lannister said something similar doesn’t prove a point here.
I love how Ana Torrent played Catherine. No tears, no screaming but powerful. She appears to be extremely calm but not emotionless. Ana Torrent's acting perfectly demonstrates how wise and sophisticated Catherine was as a Queen, and how professional Ana Torrent was as an actress.
She delivered an excellent performance here. It is unusual to actually cast a Spaniard to play Catherine of Aragon in an English speaking production.
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Yes, every scene she was in was strong!!!
This one scene understands Catherine of Aragon's character better than the entirety of The Spanish Princess
I loved how she said, "the Boleyn wh*res" 😆🤣
Maria Perez 😂😭
Zero hesitation like damn.
Cause they damn are
Not being biased
Back when women blame eachother for a mans choice and doings 😩
@Hel V Excuse me!!! I know my history Ok! I know this series is BS but it doesn’t take the fact that Henry was pos!!!
Anne Boleyn was another wh*re not even a princess and her daughter’s life was pardoned by her half sister Mary!
If not that 🐩 would’ve been never known!!! Yeah you’re welcome 🍆
I absolutely adore her accent. Especially when she says "dear husband"
"You failed to give the king a son" LOOK WHO'S TALKING LMAOOO
That's exactly why I hate Anne Boleyn the most
@@LaKellita I don't understand why people like her so much nowadays. Although Anne didn't deserve to die, she was still a horrible woman, especially when she was "queen". She was very vengeful. Queen Katherine was the best Queen of England Britain has ever had.
@@bobettepancakes Exactly, she got karma when he lady in waiting Jane Seymour became queen after her and took place as Henry’s mistress, but Anne was a kind person most times it’s just the fact that annoys me is that she had hated CATHEIRNE and wished her dead
But Anne had the last laugh. Her daughter became the greatest queen of England Elizabeth ! 🇬🇧 having a male heir accomplished nothing in the end for Henry the 8th.
@@MarsMellow84 she wasn't the greatest queen of England at all. She just lived the longest. The only reason why she is remembered as so great is because she was a Protestant.
Henry literally shit his pants in fear when she mentioned the Pope.
I think cuz France and Spain where Catholic and could easily have teamed up to destroy him
Queen Mary should've signed Elizabeth I's execution papers and shouldve made Mary Stewart the next queen.
@@lilstrawberry6063 lowkey agree but I mean Mary was not a monster and while I think Elisabeth is overrated way way overrated she was kinda a Bitch and I am American and even I know she was a bitch I mean look what she did to the Irish she also got lucky with the Spanish it had nothing to do with her smarts out winning nah the weather changed if the weather had stayed the same England might just be part of Spain today also wtf would she not great with Spain her sister Mary was half Spanish and if you look at how she ruled it was very much like Catharine of Aragon
Not only did he shit I think he pee himself also.
@Lil Strawberry
I know is been a year, but still gonna reply.
Well, she did not. End look, Elizabeth I brought golden age to England.
Sorry for my garbage English.
Catherine was brave queen she defied Henry and the Court and was ready to be a martyr to defend her right as the true Queen and wife of the King.
YESS! I agree
@Hel V Yes, she lived in castles, but they were not luxurious, or even comfortable castles! Henry made her live in cold, uncomfortable, dark, unkempt castles in unhealthy locations. And she didn't 'live' in castles, she was imprisoned in them.
And yes, Henry would probably have not executed her, but Catherine genuinely believed that he would, and she was prepared to be a martyr. Henry's men came to her and told her that if they asked her to sign that oath and she refused, Henry would definitely execute her. Most of Europe at that point believed that Henry would execute Catherine. Catherine's friends from court warned her about a possible execution many times. Even the emperor warned her about it.
And I'm pretty sure she was protecting Mary and the Catholic Church rather than her own rights.
Catherine is the only one of his wives i felt sorry for. She didn't deserve what happened to her.
True. I am to the first legal wife. They don't deserve what happened to them, same to Princess Diana.
neither did katherine howard or catherine parr
I agree 😭😭😭😭 she was so amazing
You don't feel bad for a 17 year old that got raped and executed for it?
Anne of Cleves did nothing wrong. She was smart enough to take Henry's deal and that kept her alive.
While I’m a fan of Anne Boleyn, out of all his wives... Catalina De Aragon is the best woman to look up to as a role model, such a strong woman
Only one of Henry's wives tried to bring his family together. Katherine was not it
@@BadBoyBobby85 cathrine died before the other were born....
Anne Boelyn is an upstart and homewrecker, She had no business sitting on throne of England.
Catherine and I share the same birthday which is the 16th of December. I was born exactly five hundred and two years later!!
@@lisaellis2593 Agreed. I really don't see how anyone could be a fan of her.
This is why i look up to queen Catherine of Aragon, she was a brave and strong woman!
She and Henry received a Papal dispensation in order to marry. Then because his sons with Catherine died after birth, it was HER FAULT?
A real royal queen, with Trastamara and Lancaster ( through her mother the queen Isabel I) blood, with more rights to the English throne that the stupid Henry. And because she loved England deeply, doesn't begin a civil war
The people of England loved her dearly and respected her for her kindness and compassion she will always be the rightful Queen❤️
she didnt had more right than henry at all and she wouldnt have the support in england to overtrow henry and rule herself
Yet another example of why Catharine of Aragon has become an icon for me
This icon of yours, has fasted while pregnant. She might have killer her babies! All while convinced fasting was way to please the God, so that he would gift her a child...
Jane Haylay she is postulated to have suffered from anorexia. Many historians have looked into this theory and there are many signs that she was anorexic. The woman likely had a diagnosable mental illness in a time when the concept did not exist.
Jane Haylay do you... realize what you’ve just admitted? Yes, Catherine of Aragon’s fertility must have been affected by her fasting, but she did it believing it would *help* her children by pleasing God. That’s like blaming a medieval physician for using leeches to draw blood from a patient because people had the misconstrued notion that it would work at the time. She had *no idea* about how terrible it would be for her undoing children- she was trying to *help* them!
@@Dawn-qi5er Adict doesn't realise that either, and from modern point of view we blame medieval doctors very often...
Jane Haylay addiction wasn’t even a concept back then. Remember, this was when explanations for various phenomena was either that god made it so, or it was witchcraft, etc. Superstition and prayer was often all they had. She was a woman with a strong sense of duty, a complete devotion to her king and England, and desperately wanted to provide England an heir. She didn’t have the tools or knowledge to cope with underlying issues she had. Her fasting and her religious devotion are just examples of her exhausting persistence in trying to have a healthy child. She, and the world in which she lived, lacked the tools or understanding to know that what she did was possibly harmful.
A great queen , as her mother!
Hija de la Reina Isabel, la Reina mas grande de la Cristianidad. Reina de Castilla, Aragon, Cerdeña (mi isla), Sicilia, Napoles y de las nuevas tierras atlanticas.
I’m inclined to agree. Isabella of Castile was a great Queen. But... I still have problems with her role in the Spanish Inquisition.
@@Dawn-qi5erspanish inquisition? All false!!!! Forma parte de la conocida como "Leyenda Negra Española" inventada por los enemigos de España (UK entre otros).
La inquisición española fue una anécdota si la comparas con la británica o la francesa, que esas sí fueron realmente crueles y masivas.
To show how guilty Henry is about the claims he said about Catherine of Aragon when she was speaking he couldn't even look her In the eyes.
All these women fought amongst eachother but hindsight is 20/20. They were all remarkable politicians and charismatic leaders of their socio-political factions and Henry was an unfaithful, montrous madman who nearly bankrupt the crown.
And left a realm in religious civil war that would last trough all his children's reign to his heirs, just bc his simple minded ass wasn't content with a daughter Mary who would have been raised by Catherine, daughter of the extraordinarily succesfull monarch Queen Isabella of Castille and wanted a son.
THANK YOU! I’m so SICK of people fighting over which Queen was better or worse!
I mean in 2021 anne would be a greasy slick politician I mean yes great but pretty fucked up policies you can bet on that but Catharine would be that one person who could run for president anytime and win by a legit landslide ( no hate to Biden he was just the lesser of two idiots .) but does not wanna run cuz she can do more good by just posting TH-cam videos about how the middle and working class are the real
Power either way both women would be amazing
She was the only person in the film that was actually likable
Excellent actress Ana Torrent! It really felt like a Queen putting a couple of girls back in their box.
ME: I thought Catherine was say Belofed of the people then realized its Beloved.
CATHERINE: WALKS AWAY LIKE A BOSS!!
ALSO ME: WHOO! RESPECT! YOU GO GIRL!!
La mejor reina de Inglaterra...amada por el pueblo...sin miedo se enfrentó a Enrique lo que significaba la muerte. Hasta el día de hoy es amada en Inglaterra 😍
The actress playing Catherine... superb..is she a Spanish stage actor?..the way she delivered her lines... super!! thanks for sharing!!
@@Cee_elle59 actually not seen that..but thanks for your input...!! She has played this role so well... Wow...these are all truly gifted actors...
yes, his name is Ana Torrent, i personally recommend "tesis" directed by Alejandro Amenábar. the best work coming from this actress.
@@4vndd please watch her in cria cuervos, you won't regret it.
@@soledadferrer1325 thanks for your suggestion..
I believe she actually is a spanish actress ( I think that's what comes up when I googled her)
Everyone talks about which queens they like and dislike, and Katherine vs Anne vs Jane, but can we all just agree that Henry was an absolute cad who didn't deserve any of his wives?
Henry being a horrible person does not undo what a horrible person Anne Boleyn was in her own right
@@SG-pu3rxYeah, but she still didn’t deserve to be executed.
@@quantasiumI was watching another documentary. It pointed out something that is completely glossed over by a lot of people. She actually committed treason by telling Sir Henry Noris “you look for dead man’s shoes, for if the king was dead you’d look to have me”. I mean her arrest to execution was very fast. Henry had people executed for less, so the fact that she said that is what really sealed her execution instead of divorce and being sent to a nunnery. She said the wrong thing, at the wrong time.
As much as I feel bad for Anne, she wasn’t a saint either in her own right. Catherine of Aragon was the true victim and was the one who suffered the most under Henry. Anne may be a fascinating historical figure, but COA will always top over her.
The bravest Queen I know, I personally believe that her death was more sad than Anne's, but that's just my opinion.
Agree completely
Anne was judicially murdered. Catherine's death was sad and unfair, but Anne was murdered...
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@@imme246 Well we don't really know the exact cause of Catherine's death. But her heart was entirely black, usually a sign of poisoning...
@@luxetveritas9196 However, it was later recognized by medical historians that the heart becoming black is not likely due to poison but because of cancer.
Catherine was a true queen.
This is a strong speech she gave them.
Catherine had the support of Rome and Henry feared it, so he could not humiliate her as much like his other wives.
l like when she said this two lines " the boleyn whores " & " dear husband "
this is my Favret part of the movie Catherine is showing that she will not let anything go with out a fight and she is not giving up her right as queen and she is not letting her hubby call their child illegitimate
Henry only ever thought of himself only thinking I want what I want when I want it and I get what I want because I want it. And didn’t deserve Katharine
La reina Catalina siempre ha sido digna y orgullosa pese al repudio y la humillación hacia su persona.
SHE DIDN’T STUTTER THO
Too bad they did not include Katherine's speech to Wolsey. The Shakespeare account has her speech where she tells Wolsey exactly what she thought of him.
The only Queen that Henry VIII truly loved
What about Jane Seymour?
@@alexanderfoote6153more like infatuated or grateful that she produced him a male heir. If she gave birth to a daughter, Henry would have her easily disposed.
Catherine is forever the OG
If its true that Anne Boleyn was waiting in the hallway for Catherine to walk by into the court she had figurative balls of brass! I would not have shown my face anywhere near Catherine!
Catalina de Aragón...Queen of England did never betray neither the King Henry nor the Kingdom of England..was an excellent queen..!
This maybe just me, but I think Mary looked genuinely remorseful for what she did to Catherine.
I agree with you. Mary was not a malicous woman like ann.
@@ThothTheAtlanteanK As a matter of fact I admired Mary for choosing to marry for love instead of money and/or status.
She was the best of the Boleyns
neither Anne or Mary had a choice, do you think they are capable of rejecting king henry's advances?
@@6ftofmisery636 Anne actually did for a while. It was until her family’s suggestion that she should play the long game of becoming Henry’s new queen. Even though, Anne wasn’t a complete demon and is definitely less in the wrong than Henry is, she still understood of what her actions were going to result in.
Such an amazing sequence panning the rear of the Boleyn's to face the queen .. wow
And people admire Anne Boleyn over HER??? The world is truly a strange place.
ALONDRA PEREZ-RAMIREZ I’m not sure if people really admire Anne Boleyn but they respect the fact that Anne gave birth to Elizabeth I. I think people are sympathetic to Anne’s case that she was executed for charges that were false because she couldn’t give Henry VIII a male heir.
In my opinion people adore Anne because she was mother of Elizabeth and she was executed, and most of them cecognize Catherine as a dowdy and boring woman.
_Queen_ Catherine_ Then 'most' are ill informed idiots who nothing of Katherine if Aragon.
The Tudors romanticized her, so much of her fangirls idolize her even though the show isn't completely accurate.
Exactly Anne is no better than Catherine
Queen Catherine reminds me of Princess Diana.
How so?
@@suzanner1630 They both had troubled relationships with their husbands. They both tried their level best to save their marriage. They both were humiliated by their husbands. And they both died with a broken heart. TTwTT
@@dhruboahmed7602 good point
Diana wasn’t a doormat
@@sweetspicy92 neither was Catherine, she was a brave Queen.
What a great actress. Also, that king needs to get his head examined for tossing aside that fine Spanish lady. That accent is so hot....lol.
I LOVE This Movie So Much🥰🥰🥰🥰 Strong Women! Too Bad Everyone Did Lie, Talk About Karma❤️❤️❤️❤️
What a queen when even king of that country couldn't say a word
Yes, why queen Catherine in this film has dark hair? In fact, the queen has blonde hair or light color, not dark.
OMG does it matter...you guys always show the ancient Egyptians or Kemets as white...so does it matter?
Strawberry blond. Not auburn as they chose in Spanish Princess.
They seem to be unable to get it right...
@@ThePharaoho
That depends on which Egyptians. Some where white.
@@janehaylay1152
Well taking into account Cleopatra was of a Greek/Macedonian line.
@Momo G.
Hellenic egypt.
I love this speech waaaah I memorized it
Welp karma sure came back to bite Anne in the ass👏🏼🤷🏻♀️
True but at the end of it all she did get the last laugh because she gave England the best heir to the throne in history!
I love this scene. I know all the lines😂
Katherine was the strongest of all the wives
Le film deux soeurs pour un roi est un film magnifique et les acteurs et les actrices sont fantastiques dans le film deux soeurs pour un roi. J'aime bien ce film deux soeurs pour un roi.
Ana Torrent is spanish like Catherine of Aragon. The cast was perfect.
I mean she’s spewing facts
The actress who plays Catherine is excelent, but the former queen was very diferent. She was blonde, with blue eyes and palid skin. I don't know why in the movies insist to represent Catherine of Aragon like an old and ugly woman. She was not¡¡¡¡¡
Uhhhh this actress is beautiful what are you talking about
Actually, if they were to portrait her realistically, she would need to be really fat. Just look at her portraits, she was never as slim as she is presented in tv shows and movies nowadays. She already came to England plump.
First of all, she's the right age for the role and speaks with a thick accent as should be (she learned English as an adult). Second, she is a beautiful woman. Third, she's an accomplished actress. In fact, the director must have been really excited to have her, Ana Torrent is a legend.
@@janehaylay1152
I have seen her protraits and it doesnt look to be that fat.
@@j.b.2263 Problem with her portraits are later copies of originals(especially in 19th century) that look nothing like her!
So I will show you few that are originals, or earlier copies, which are more accurate.
1)2)3) Sittow's three portraits.
I know some claim it is Mary Tudor(Queen of France), but it looks nothing like rest of her portraits and plenty as Katherine's daughter, Katherine's other portraits and matches perfectly her description of times when she came to England as young girl.
Cca 1502-1504 they were done.
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Rose_Tudor_(CatherineAragon%3F)_by_Michel_Sittow.jpg
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CatherineOfAragonMadonnaMagdalene.png
4) Copy of lost original(copy made by Wenceslaus Hollar in 1652, but he was known for his accuracy in landscaping...and matches style of early 16th century portraits perfectly.)
Probably made in 1510s, given type of her clothes and youghthful expression.
www.rct.uk/collection/421499/katherine-of-aragon-1485-1536
5)6)7) Two miniature portraits and monkey portrait.
Made around 1525/1526, first one is probably most telling...
www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw01143/Katherine-of-Aragon
(and we know it is her, because she wears one of jewels of Queen of England, which we can see on other portraits of Henry's Queens.)
Second you don't recognize as her straight away.
www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw191234/Katherine-of-Aragon?LinkID=mp00801&role=sit&rNo=2
Until you compare it to larger version of the same portrait-the portrait with monkey and see it is exactly same costume!
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Horenbout_Catherine_of_Aragon_with_a_monkey.jpg
She is definitely really round in her face, especially in first miniature...
8) Lost portrait which also showed jewels of Queen of England.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Catalina_de_Arag%C3%B3n%2C_por_un_artista_an%C3%B3nimo.jpg
Even though it is 18th century copy, the costume is time appropriate, hands holding also, her embroidered chemise, her gable hood, the jewels, her features are there, the bust is there(as can be seen in other portraits of the time period, even hers, big bust was not considered immoral, and shape of the dress really made it go up...). So if all this is accurate, I'd say even in original of this portrait she was not really slim at all...
I just noticed that Queen Catherine and her official ladies in waiting are all wearing Tudor gables while the two Boleyns are wearing french hoods.
I loved how Ana Torrent portrayed Catherine of Aragon. I loved the way she said, the boleyn wh*res. Lols
This actress was a bright star in an otherwise subpar film.
Never felt sorry for any of Henry's other wives. Just Catherine.
Go, Katharine!
When look at this move closely, very very scary.... The ways that how they fights.... Nearly murder to their own souls....
Both of them were witty, prosi, strong willed. Pitty, that they Havel fought over A Man that was king, but didn't really deserved them
Catalina de Aragón, reina de Inglaterra.
If this moment-in-time really happened Anne Boleyn was utterly shameless to face off Catherine in that way. If I saw her coming in my direction after everything that transpired, I would have crawled under a rock.
Anne that little weasel
Katherine of Aragon was a true sovereign princess and Queen .
She will always be a hero of mine. Even in 2024.
As I said in a former vid (this one has a better quality): this is a very strong scene!!!!
What a queen!
the best self defense for a woman in that time ,sadly it didnt worked.
But such thrill.... Meaning, they all have related for long time....
This the other Boykin girl.
There's no way
You must agree that baby in all the time I was by your side einer will lost control no mether how many times I know your light
Certo che le due Bolene erano versate per fare certe carriere ...
Anne deserved what she got after ruining this woman's life with that man what was she hoping. To live happily ever after in luxury that Catherine's dowry brought in the country Catherine saved from invasion with a man that did wronged a woman like Catherine that much. I don't get why people call her intelligent...
agreed
You should probably learn more about History if you think Anne had the power, fyi Henry chased Anne for 7 years, and when she ran away from court so the king could forget about her, he managed to find her. Her family also pressured her a lot. Demonizing Anne is so stupid.
Anne was very educated,i don't get this comment.
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj anne distant herself only to make henry become more obsess with her. She's manipulating him at the start. Henry expects anne to be just his another mistress but since Anne is ambitious, she want him to make her his queen. Also all woman in that period are used as pawns to give their families titles and prestige. It's not just anne who is used by his father. Just look at Jane seymour, Marie antoinette etc.She then only lost her head when she falls deeply inlove with henry and couldn't give him a son at the same time
Mary gave him a son, Anne gave him a daughter...
Catherine de Valois?
No, Catherine of Aragon.
you live under a rock? Katherine the Valois and Henry VIII hahahah
Henry was the one who commited adultery
sorry Boylin.
con dos cojones....jejejej....no podía ser menos siendo hija de quien era.. Dignidad y fortaleza propias de una infanta de Castilla y Aragón.
Have they forgotten how women become pregnant?
A man and a woman go into a bedroom; take off all their clothes, climb into the bed and; Do I have to finish this sentence? If it takes both the man and woman to procreate a child. Given that both are the progenitors of that child. Why is it that any laws regarding this impose liability on the woman. Why is there no vicarious liability on the man that impregnated her?
Catherine is a bad bitch😎
what is the name of this show?
Andrew Chew the movie is called The Other Boleyn Girl
Maria Doyle Kennedy was a better Katherine
yes but more she is too old to play a so young Henry, she likes her mother...the actors have 16 years of difference
I know I'm going to get hated for this, but I hate Anne Boleyn
Ann Boleyn was a sneaky woman. She was very conniving, everyone keeps looking the other way on that. It would have all ended diff had she had a son.
You're only going to get love from me for saying that 😂😂
I mean you only spoke truth cuz she’s hate worthy the way she treated mary it’s one thing to treat the ex a way but the child umm Henry is also not at fault he never should have allowed Mary to be treated like such but as we know childhood trauma fucks up children Mary was 100% the product of childhood trauma thanks to Anne I mean Jane ,Anne C,kitty H and cat all treated his children even Elisabeth like they should what the fuck was wrong with Anne why could she not treat Mary with kindness .
@@kkandsims4612 ikrr?
@@tudorprincess9169 same i hate Anne cause of what she did to Mary I
Thers No way
Boleyn lost her head, but Elizabeth did become queen after Bloody Mary.
and Mary becomes queen after Edward, so?
shes katherine it says so marked above her tomb inside peterbrough cathedral katherine qveen of england
What movie is this from?
If you don't know why not look it up? Stop being so lazy.
@@ThothTheAtlanteanK are you always so ugly?
Catherine was documented to be fair skinned, blue eyes and slightly redheaded. The actress portraying did a great job nontheless, but her coloring was not properly researched.
that doesn´t matter!!!!!! Enough with that bullshit! Did you know netflix made a series with Anne Boleyn black? so? whats the problem with her hair..Besides, it's not that bad, 90% of Spaniards have dark hair. The most important here is a good actress
Catherine of Aragon was a true queen.......but I prefer Anne Boleyn
I prefer every other Queen over Anne Bolyne.
Sorry but I will never believe that Catherine of Aragon and her first husband Arthur didn't consumate their marriage. They were married for 6 months! Sorry, not buying it.
Really ? Do not forget that it was not a love union but a political one. I think they wanted some time to get to know each other, they were both very young and thought they had their whole lives ahead of them. Later, Queen Catherine swore in the name of God that King Henry was her first husband, so (she was a virgin). From the point of view of atheists, only empty words, but Queen Catherine was a deeply religious woman, she would not risk her soul being damned forever. I believe her.
in those times the royals couples, specially teenagers ( think in Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette , or Peter of Russia and Katherine, were months, even years before consummate the marriage) also Arthur suffered tuberculosis At that moment , and THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THOSE YEARS THEY SINCERILY BELIEVE IN GOD, THEY WAS NOT CYNICAL LIKE NOW....Katherine NEVER COULD LIE JUST TO MARRY A ENGLISH PRINCE. She COULD RETURN TO Spain AND MARRY ANOTHER ROYAL PRINCE WITH MORE POWER THEN THIS STUPID HENRY
If you have to say you are the queen you are no true queen
She had to tell those two idiots
But she actually was the Queen so....what is your point🤔? That rule only applies to people who are not actually what they have to say they are. She was the Queen but her king was an unrighteous king.
How do none of you not recognize the game of thrones reference
Keren Acosta I get the reference. It’s still stupid when applied to this centrioles, however. Just because Tywin Lannister said something similar doesn’t prove a point here.