I kinda feel like they are going for her supressing, and wanting to forget that, that may also be why we saw her displaying such apathy, when talking to alicent about it
@@spicychad55 He can see past to present and might even be capable of affecting it. That's why there is a saying adopted by the fandom,"when in doubt blame Bloodraven".
I’m like 98.5% certain they didn’t give bloodraven an eyepatch because they knew that a bunch of people would think it was Aemond. Because it’s impossible for multiple characters to have an eye patch at same time.
Could be, but the thing is that Bloodraven doesn't always wear the eyepatch. He is known to show it off, adding to his fearsome aspect, covered only by his own hair. So why not just have the eye opposite the birthmark covered by hair? Or make it real obvious by giving him the albino look, being real pale with a blood red eye... I'm guessing we see him in the Dunk and Egg show, before he lost the eye. Making him more of a character there, instead of just hearing rumors about him till he shows up?
@@Hazelcake That is true. What I mean is, instead of Egg only mentioning his family and upbringing before traveling with Dunk, we get flashbacks to events that are tied to the overall story. Like seeing how Bloodraven lost his eye during the 1st Blackfyre rebellion, and not jumping straight to the prevention of Blackfyre 2.0. A flashback when Dunk & Egg meet the old "traitor" knight in book 2, for instance? Showing both him and Bloodraven at the Battle of the Redgrass Field.
They'd be stupid not to honestly with how many people have openly declared that they would watch a more book accurate version. They just have to wait for GRRM to finish the books first otherwise they will get stuck again
@@Grace-er9ep it should be animated too there’s absolutely no point casting the characters again with new actors and In animation you can show battles without worrying about budget
@@StarlessAH I get that but it’s still much easier to be faithful to the books if it’s animated since not only will characters look accurate but less characters will be cut from the show as you don’t need to spend money on actors. Plus we already had LA version of the story and it was amazing for about 5 years then it went to shit what is the point doing it again if everyone already knows the majority of the story?
Yeah I never understood this. It's not a giant reptile breathing fire, it's a couple pixels. I think they want to stay true to GoT's cannon, where they also didn't have purple eyes.
There's a lot of eye-focused acting in both GoT and HotD, and edited eyes or contact lenses (were considered for GoT) would take away from that. Seeing the edited shots in this video doesn't convey as much emotion. I think it would ultimately look cooler but feel shallower, and that's not the point of either show.
Corlys' characterization made no sense as presented: "Your Grace, even though; you cuckolded my son, gave your bastards *my* name, likely unalived that same son *in my own house* to wed your current husband, let your husband unalive my brother with impunity for speaking the truth, mishandled your war so badly that my wife is gone, are currently endangering my only remaining descendants, and *still* refuse to take the initiative with your dragons after orchestrating a bluddy quagmire... I am your man, your Grace. There is no conflict between us."
12:23 Not just her children, her brother as well, whose only sin is standing by his family and the law. Gwayne was part of no conspiracy as far as we know.
Agree with this completely. They're focusing too much on the prophecy that's already been ruined. I want to see these characters be who they are in the event that is threatening their lives now. Not what happens centuries in the future when they're all dead anyway (except Bloodraven)
Yeah I’m happy with SOME characters being obsessed with prophecy (Bloodraven, Rhaegar) even Rhaenyra’s turn to flawed messianism is interesting. But the story shouldn’t revolve around prophecy
the prophecy hasnt been ruined lmao yall think season 8 is CANON and the definitive end of asoiaf and its not thats d&d fkd up interpretation of what happens not grrm
I think the point was that prophecies never play out the way you think. Dany was always the villain, her entire arc is wanting to kill and or conquer the entire Westeros cast from the beginning. She was just the best kind of villain; a charismatic leader. And characters are often written like this to wake people up to how one falls for facism and war, you have a leader like Daenerys.
@@zippovu Obviously not. But it's been ruined in the show and the books are not finished yet. So we're left with season 8 for the "idea" of a conclusion
@@EdwardMorgan-gf8bk technically but I don't think they called him that and they didn't even try to make that guy look like the actual extremely distinctive character besides making him old really so I think the sentiment still rings true
In book - yes. But show Alicent is consistent - she is horrified by how her elder sons become and she is willing to give up on them if that would save her daughter and granddaughter.
@@Medvelelet Yes, but she is consistent wih her show characterization. My point she was not 'ruined' in season 2 finale - she was ruined since moment they made her Rhaenyra's peer.
It amuses me to see some reviewers praise the showrunners and ascribe deep meaning to every scene and "Easter egg", when it's more and more obvious that the showrunners are just making stuff up as they go along and "kinda forgetting" that it's important for things to make sense for the story to work.
I love Criston Cole’s character. He believes he’s doing the right thing, and knows he’s capable of great evil. His cynicism and realpolitik makes him my favorite Green character so far. Hoping Daeron the Daring changes all of that sooner rather than later.
I thought same thing when I saw Rhaena running on the mountains! Mountains at the Vale are very dangerous because of the Mountain Clans. Even too many Arryn's murdered by them (including Lady Jeyne Arryn's father and brothers) Also Tyrion confronted them in GoT as you mentioned. Seasons 2 is ridiculous.
They should forget GOT, do HOTD, into dunc and egg and into a reboot of a GOT, by that time maybe we have another book and the stink will have worn of.
@@badyoutuber1986now we’re talking. The GoT Anime would be killer. We could get to see and do all the cool things that are hard to adapt because of production cost and how hard it would be to portray.
We would need the first blackfyre rebellion inbetween, and roberts rebellion before the reboot. But otherwise I wholeheartedly agree with you. One issue is that the Fire&Blood sequel, as well as the remaining Dunk'n'Egg stories aren't yet published
The green man had me more hype than the weirwood prince prophecy. I wish they had gone a different direction but at least we got antlered creature clip-clopping.
Halaena probably has some of Garth the Green’s blood from the Hightower side so she might be a green seer and a dragon dreamer. Which is absolute fire, praise Garth, moon meteors, green men, etc etc, praise the great GRRM
I liked the season on the whole but the ending was so anticlimactic and felt like a slap in the face to everyone who's waited 2 years for this to come out. It felt like there was going to be 10 episodes but instead of squashing 10 episodes into 8 they just made 8 and scrapped the other 2.
With the recent confirmation that HBO cut episodes 9 and 10 from their budget last minute, this definitely seems right. This would've been a good episode 8 for a 10 episode season. (Source: thedirect.com/article/house-of-the-dragon-season-2-cancelled-episodes#:~:text=Turns%20out%20that%20House%20of,from%20Deadline%20in%20March%202023.)
@@yingkouzen "confirm what's canon". I don't think so. The show removed Maelor, another son of Aegon II. Later GRRM wrote on his blog criticizing it by saying "Maelor the Missing". The show moved Sheepstealer from Dragonstone to the Vale. Later GRRM criticized it again on his blog, saying "fiction needs to be grounded....This ruins the world building".
12:36 I mean, Daeron is the most fit to rule out of the three brothers (I hope we can all agree on that) but he is also the most reasonable. Fire and Blood states that he is more used to follow orders than to give them and that he is kind and humble. So convincing him not to press his claim doesn't sound that impossible. And when it comes to the Black perspective: He had little to do with the Green coup, he was just vibing in Oldtown. Daeron did not steal the throne like Aegon and he did not kill a child of Rhaenyra like Aemond. So convincing Rhaenyra to spare Daeron if he swears loyalty doesn't sound that impossible either, they could even marry him to Rhaena to unite Green and Black.
Nah, as long as there is a son of Viserys alive, Rhaenyra's claim or that of her children will be in danger, nothing would assure the blacks that Daeron would take the throne when Rhaenyra died and started a war against Jace, or that the children of Daeron and Rhaena will not reveal themselves. Yes or yes Rhaenyra would have to kill him.
I think you are right about HOTD being set in a different timeline. The amount of discrepancies between the 2 shows keep piling up and they’re clearly on purpose at this point
I knew that tree guy was a Targaryen because of you ✨ So thank you for your always thorough and detailed videos! I’m not dedicated enough to read or listen to the books. So you sacrificing your health to make video essays and episode recaps on the intricate lore details that I absolutely would not understand otherwise is very much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
I don't really care about the book material because let's be honest, F&B isn't much of a book, and the characters in it ain't really characters, instead they are just a descriptions of what characters could've been and it's even implied that at least half of it is bullshit anyway, so the writers truly DID have basically a blank check at making all the characters whatever they wanted them to be, YET THEY SOMEHOW MANAGED TO SHIT ALL OVER THEIR OWN CHARACTERS THAT THEY THEMSELVES BASICALLY CAME UP WITH, RUINED THEIR PERSONALITIES AND MOTIVATIONS THAT THEY THEMSELVES HAVE GIVEN THEM! I've gotta say that's just the next level of shit writing
Excellent editing as always. And I could not agree more about your thoughts on Helaena communicating with her son’s murderer. The abominable Alicent and Rhaenyra scene has already taken 2 years of my life so I will not get angry about it again. Thanks for reviewing the whole season. It’s been a ride.
I think they are heavily implying that aemond is going to push her and blame it on her mental illness. It wouldn’t surprise her because I’m sure she also knows when she’s going to die and isnt going to fight the universe on it.
Yeah i’ve always wanted to interpret for my own mental health that Jon is still the Prince that was Promised cause he united almost every kingdom to fight the White Walkers and warned everyone about them, but it still should’ve been him who ended it directly
I’ve been saying it for a while, we only consider the first four (maybe 5) seasons of Game of Thrones Canon, the rest was dumb and dumber fan fiction. And that’s the truth of it.
@@badyoutuber1986 Rhaenyra gave hardcore bisexual vibes all through the first half of season 1 with Alicent (the actors even said they played it with a sexual tension, and it showed) She’s literally married and has children with her UNCLE, but you find a kiss between her and another woman a step too far?? That’s kinda wild
@@connormulholland2054 No reasonable personal thought Allicent and Rheanyra were going to Fxck😂. And answer me these. Do you think sex makes everything better?What was the point of that kiss narratively speaking? In what way does it contribute to the political CIVIL WAR of fire breathing lizard tamers? Why just why shove this in our faces?
1:48 Because the events of the present can change the future. Furthermore, she wouldn’t tend to burn innocent people, only combo with Aemond to kill Daemon, but apparently Helaena prefers to be the spiritual guide of her son's murderer instead of killing him XD.
I found both season 1 and 2 of HOTD a bit thin and spread out just like Season 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones. I don't remember re watching HOTD season 1 and the same will be true for season 2.
“Why I care so much about the dragon show is to distract me from that fact I’m going to die one day” HIT SO HARD. gonna be my first response anytime someone asks me why I love this shit so much. Thanks you :)
At least Cole is insightful enough to realize he's a gigantic, honorless, douche-canoe. Perhaps his one redeeming quality, outside of being an above-average melee fighter (his fighting with a morningstar flail was much more graceful than his incredibly stiff, mechanical swordsmanship).
Alyn has nothing to do with his book countrepart but Corlys and Addam were depicted accurately. Corlys was shown as man who felt weight of his family loses and contemplated abandoning Rhaenyra's cause, until being swayed by his grandchild (albeit different grandchild than in book, as in source material it was Jacaerys not Baela, though Baela no doubt supported this mission given her fierce dedication to Rhaenyra and Jace). And Addam is simply 💋😍 - I loved everyting about him! He is bit older than in book, in 20s rather than teenager, but he is courageous and loyal just like in source material. And he also has this sympathethic aura about him, and cherry at top - he is also incredibly handsome 😅💞🥵
I really disliked the indecisiveness and sitting around of nearly everyone this season. If Tywin Lannister was transported back in time to this series he would've won the whole war without dragons simply because he does things while everyone else is standing around with their dicks in their hands.
Corly's said 6 dragons while Larys said 7. And since aegon said his dragon is dead, I'm hoping the writer's are leaving room for the possibility of Sunfire to return 😣 As for Haelena, i was was very certain Aemond was about to throw her off the balcony in that scene 😅 at the very least, grab her by the neck for a few seconds before letting her go I also wish her dialogue was a combination of cryptic and direct, leaving aemond confused about what his sister just told him, not fully understanding or accepting that she just told him the future
Overall I really enjoyed this season, but nowhere near as much as s1. It was gutted by both having their budget reduced to only enough for 8 eps and then the writer's strike preventing them from rewriting, but I think they did a pretty good job regardless. My biggest issue is how much of Jace's story they cut. We didn't get to see his negotations in the vale and the north so it left him with nothing to do in the first half of the season. If he hadn't returned to Dragonstone until ep 3/4 then it would have done a lot for both his character and the wider story. Him being away for so many of the events of the early season could have had impacted Rhaenyra and have her spiral down further, basically being alone until Jace returned. It could have also led to some good drama between them and Mysaria, with Jace returning to see his mother isolated from the council and only seeking counsel from this strange woman. It's a shame thinking of the season we could have gotten if they hadn't cut those parts of Jace's story.
Why is everyone assuming Helaena actually saw his dream? there's no reason he couldn't... you know.. also just dream of her like normal people dream of their family?
Actully Alicent sold out Aegon, Dearon, Aemond, Gwayne and Otto all the males in her family to be killed by Rhaenyra. In order too Run away to Essos whit her daughter and granddaughter, really some top notch writing there. Have they forgotten Alicents whole season 1 arc was about protecting her children All her children. has she forgot about the brutal murder if her grandson?
It's amazing how you could change the Targaryens eyes to the correct colour but the shows couldn't. They couldn't even at least do it for the Velaryons to make them more convincing after race swapping them. They actually would've looked cool and more organic with purple eyes, instead of just a bunch of actors in blonde wigs.
I think the BR differences is done on purpose, they want to make it that this is basically a multiverse. Helaena also says it’s Aemond who will be absorbed by the Gods’ Eye and never be found again, which is at odds with what happens in the book, although it remains to be seen. Maybe Aemond will skinchange Daemon before dying….
bro...im so happy i found ur channel. ur like alt shift x but with a personality and humor...you also add subjective pov which is nice. will always watch in future
All things I wanted to see but I didn't get and will not get until next adaptation (which is... probably not in my lifetime) - PART 2: 6) More sentences from Joffrey - I know he is younger than in book, but he was such brave boy in book! 7) Book Jacaerys who is unapologetic about his look and endorses smallfolk, not Jacaerys who flipped his personality with book Rhaenyra. 8) Morning's egg or Morning's hatching.🐲🟣 9) Rhaena living far from war in Vale and this unique perspective. 10) Some confrontation between Jacaerys and Daemon regarding how they view each other. All evidence points to Daemon supports Jace rights and Daemon also seems love Lucerys in his way given how he affectionate called him "Luke", and Jacaerys in s 2 seems to admire Daemon's charisma - yet they had this tense sceen in 1x10 and it would be nice to have conversation between them how things stand and how Daemon feels about Jace succession.
It's a totally out of the box thought, but I wonder if the updated end of Helaena's storyline will involve the Weirwood they added to the KL godswood. Maybe she manages to technically sacrifice herself to the tree and it explains her upgraded prophesy powers and her otherwise unusual connection to green magic?
Isn't bloodraven supposed to have an eyepatch by the time he became the 3-eyed Raven? I suppose they didn't give him one since he never had one in the original show. Though the original show never confirmed that Bloodraven was the raven - it was still just a book theory from my understanding.
I know how Haelena will pass. It will be her link to her dragon that causes it. It will be during the riots, led by the Shepard. Her dragon will be under attack and panicked. Haelena will be more in the dragon pit, than with her own body during the attack. She will not mean to throw herself, it will be more of a confused and panicked accident rather than an episode of intentional self harm.
4:15 I think the mountain clansmen would avoid the livestock-steeling rogue nuclear weapon, while Raena is actively following it. It would’ve been great if the mountain clansmen appeared or were mentioned but the fact they’re not around doesn’t frustrate me at all really
I don’t like that they’re cramming the story into such short seasons again, like they did in the last couple seasons of GoT. There’s so much more to put in, so viewers feel more invested and the characters are more multi dimensional, the story more fleshed out. Instead they change key parts of the story to hurry the story alinh, which means leaving a lot out.
I can't understand why they put so much effort into "fixing" the ending of game of thrones with the bullshit dagger prophecy. The ending of Got was a unsalvageble disaster and they should have kept this story entirelt seperate but it is too late and i think the show is ruined at this point
All things I wanted to see but I didn't get and will not get until next adaptation (which is... probably not in my lifetime): 1) Joffrey trying to avenge Luke and moment with him and his stepgrandparents stopping and comforting him. 2) Alyn and Addam being the same age as Jacaerys and Baela and four of them bonding. (Bonding still can happen - but age of characters will make potential dynamics radically different.😒) 3) Jacaerys being de facto leader of Black faction, much respected by followers, not only figurhead he was in show. 4) Jacaerys and Corlys talk after Rhaenys's death and stepgrandfather/stepgrandson dynamic. (Scene with Baela and Corlys was cool and I'm glad Baela said plain and clear that she doesn't want Driftmark and deos not feel robbed by Rhaenyra, but I think it would be even better if Jacaerys had talk with Corlys too like in book. Jace and Baela could be both have tis conversation with their grandfather, future king and queen negotiating together ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥) 5) Lady Jeyne who is maternal figure to Rhaena, not Ice Queen we got.🥶🥶🥶
I guess Halaena forgot Daemon had her son killed infront of her
I kinda feel like they are going for her supressing, and wanting to forget that, that may also be why we saw her displaying such apathy, when talking to alicent about it
And his neck got unstuck
Wdym? Young Rhaenyra took care of the boy's head.
bro she didn't even care during the event 🙄 so refreshing y'all are starting to whine again
dark😂 @@zenmonk5403
Now we can really say Bloodraven was behind it the whole time.
When in doubt......
Just wait for them to show bloodraven turning Aerys mad and he’ll somehow be responsible for summer hall
@@VenomSapphire Nooo his a loyalist 😭 why turn him like they turned Aemond and Aegon.
Bloodraven was only 125 years old by the time Brand finds him, so he doesn't exist in the show.
@@spicychad55 He can see past to present and might even be capable of affecting it. That's why there is a saying adopted by the fandom,"when in doubt blame Bloodraven".
I’m like 98.5% certain they didn’t give bloodraven an eyepatch because they knew that a bunch of people would think it was Aemond. Because it’s impossible for multiple characters to have an eye patch at same time.
Could be, but the thing is that Bloodraven doesn't always wear the eyepatch. He is known to show it off, adding to his fearsome aspect, covered only by his own hair. So why not just have the eye opposite the birthmark covered by hair? Or make it real obvious by giving him the albino look, being real pale with a blood red eye... I'm guessing we see him in the Dunk and Egg show, before he lost the eye. Making him more of a character there, instead of just hearing rumors about him till he shows up?
He wasn’t wearing it in the GoT show right? So they might be going off of that
@@piefrosty319 True, but he also didn’t have the wine coloured birthmark on his face, so it’s hard to say.
@@Koios90 he has lost his eye in dunk and egg, 50% of the third story is "how many eyes does lord bloodraven have? a thousand eyes and one"
@@Hazelcake That is true. What I mean is, instead of Egg only mentioning his family and upbringing before traveling with Dunk, we get flashbacks to events that are tied to the overall story. Like seeing how Bloodraven lost his eye during the 1st Blackfyre rebellion, and not jumping straight to the prevention of Blackfyre 2.0.
A flashback when Dunk & Egg meet the old "traitor" knight in book 2, for instance? Showing both him and Bloodraven at the Battle of the Redgrass Field.
They are absolutely retconning GOT, gonna me a reboot in 20 or so years
They'd be stupid not to honestly with how many people have openly declared that they would watch a more book accurate version. They just have to wait for GRRM to finish the books first otherwise they will get stuck again
@@Grace-er9ep it should be animated too there’s absolutely no point casting the characters again with new actors and In animation you can show battles without worrying about budget
@@D.Rodrigues_18 True but also untrue. Animation is incredibly expensive
@@StarlessAH I get that but it’s still much easier to be faithful to the books if it’s animated since not only will characters look accurate but less characters will be cut from the show as you don’t need to spend money on actors. Plus we already had LA version of the story and it was amazing for about 5 years then it went to shit what is the point doing it again if everyone already knows the majority of the story?
@@Grace-er9ep i just want them to redo season 8 with the same actors before they get too old cause the rest of the show is so amazing 😭
Is no one going to talk about how well he edited all the targaeryan's eyes to be purple? How couldn't HOTD do this when a single youtuber can
Yeah I never understood this. It's not a giant reptile breathing fire, it's a couple pixels.
I think they want to stay true to GoT's cannon, where they also didn't have purple eyes.
There's a lot of eye-focused acting in both GoT and HotD, and edited eyes or contact lenses (were considered for GoT) would take away from that. Seeing the edited shots in this video doesn't convey as much emotion. I think it would ultimately look cooler but feel shallower, and that's not the point of either show.
@kaloryfer99999 Yeah, but you dont know the difference between cannon and canon...
@@mikemiken1963 Don't be petty, you know what I meant.
Glidus also does this too
“We can’t afford to add another dragon so we are making her a wizard”
Well, Gilley would be impressed.
Yer a wizard, -Harry- Helaena!
Corlys' characterization made no sense as presented:
"Your Grace, even though; you cuckolded my son, gave your bastards *my* name, likely unalived that same son *in my own house* to wed your current husband, let your husband unalive my brother with impunity for speaking the truth, mishandled your war so badly that my wife is gone, are currently endangering my only remaining descendants, and *still* refuse to take the initiative with your dragons after orchestrating a bluddy quagmire... I am your man, your Grace. There is no conflict between us."
Rhaenyra promised him a life time supply of fried chicken of screen and promised to keep out of prison ( for now if you get what I mean ).
@@UncleRuckus2134 😂😂😂
@@UncleRuckus2134No way 😂😂😂
@@UncleRuckus2134I'm a black person i get the humor but ouch.( I'm secretly laughing).
@@UncleRuckus2134😭
The purple eyes go hard AF.
Got that inbred drip
This is the only channel that gets Targaryen eyes color correct 😂😂
12:23 Not just her children, her brother as well, whose only sin is standing by his family and the law. Gwayne was part of no conspiracy as far as we know.
BLOODRAVEN **Shakes fist**
💀
Agree with this completely. They're focusing too much on the prophecy that's already been ruined. I want to see these characters be who they are in the event that is threatening their lives now. Not what happens centuries in the future when they're all dead anyway (except Bloodraven)
Yeah I’m happy with SOME characters being obsessed with prophecy (Bloodraven, Rhaegar) even Rhaenyra’s turn to flawed messianism is interesting. But the story shouldn’t revolve around prophecy
the prophecy hasnt been ruined lmao yall think season 8 is CANON and the definitive end of asoiaf and its not thats d&d fkd up interpretation of what happens not grrm
I think the point was that prophecies never play out the way you think. Dany was always the villain, her entire arc is wanting to kill and or conquer the entire Westeros cast from the beginning. She was just the best kind of villain; a charismatic leader. And characters are often written like this to wake people up to how one falls for facism and war, you have a leader like Daenerys.
@@zippovu Obviously not. But it's been ruined in the show and the books are not finished yet. So we're left with season 8 for the "idea" of a conclusion
@@davidthewhale7556I like how you described her," flawed messianisme".
We got live adaptation of Bloodraven before GTA 6
This made me laugh more than the entire Tyland in Tyrosh arch
Didn’t he show up in Season 4/5/6?
@@EdwardMorgan-gf8bk technically but I don't think they called him that and they didn't even try to make that guy look like the actual extremely distinctive character besides making him old really so I think the sentiment still rings true
Blood Raven not born yet....still all your fault!
Yep it’s what he gets for having time travel powers. He’s responsible for things before his birth.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116Erin Jeagar shit
Alicent would have let the entire realm burn before she offered her first born son as a sacrificial lamb.
In book - yes. But show Alicent is consistent - she is horrified by how her elder sons become and she is willing to give up on them if that would save her daughter and granddaughter.
@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518Which is why show Alicent is a joke
@@Medvelelet Yes, but she is consistent wih her show characterization. My point she was not 'ruined' in season 2 finale - she was ruined since moment they made her Rhaenyra's peer.
@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Agreed.
It amuses me to see some reviewers praise the showrunners and ascribe deep meaning to every scene and "Easter egg", when it's more and more obvious that the showrunners are just making stuff up as they go along and "kinda forgetting" that it's important for things to make sense for the story to work.
You made this more entertaining than actually watching the episode
I love Criston Cole’s character. He believes he’s doing the right thing, and knows he’s capable of great evil. His cynicism and realpolitik makes him my favorite Green character so far. Hoping Daeron the Daring changes all of that sooner rather than later.
My man dropped Shakespeare level of dialogue in a season filled with 💩.
Watch Daeron be a loser next season.
@@anotheryoutubeuser Considering what they’ve done with Jace you’re probably not wrong.
I thought same thing when I saw Rhaena running on the mountains! Mountains at the Vale are very dangerous because of the Mountain Clans. Even too many Arryn's murdered by them (including Lady Jeyne Arryn's father and brothers) Also Tyrion confronted them in GoT as you mentioned. Seasons 2 is ridiculous.
They should forget GOT, do HOTD, into dunc and egg and into a reboot of a GOT, by that time maybe we have another book and the stink will have worn of.
Nobody is going to spend a lifetime rewatching a game of thrones 😂. Animate it.
@@badyoutuber1986now we’re talking. The GoT Anime would be killer. We could get to see and do all the cool things that are hard to adapt because of production cost and how hard it would be to portray.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 (elegant bow).
We would need the first blackfyre rebellion inbetween, and roberts rebellion before the reboot. But otherwise I wholeheartedly agree with you.
One issue is that the Fire&Blood sequel, as well as the remaining Dunk'n'Egg stories aren't yet published
considering the pace of 1 season every 2 years by the time GOT gets a reboot, most people who watched the original will be dead
The green man had me more hype than the weirwood prince prophecy. I wish they had gone a different direction but at least we got antlered creature clip-clopping.
It's the small victories like seeing antlered creature clip-clopping that makes me love these shows
Halaena probably has some of Garth the Green’s blood from the Hightower side so she might be a green seer and a dragon dreamer. Which is absolute fire, praise Garth, moon meteors, green men, etc etc, praise the great GRRM
“The princess WHO was promised”, not “The princess THAT was promised.” - Stannis Baratheon
The purple eyes really sell that whole otherworldly look the book Targs have
The way the clip art is SENDING ME😂😂😂😂. Why I took one look at Ben Affleck with that cigarette and fell tf out.
I liked the season on the whole but the ending was so anticlimactic and felt like a slap in the face to everyone who's waited 2 years for this to come out. It felt like there was going to be 10 episodes but instead of squashing 10 episodes into 8 they just made 8 and scrapped the other 2.
With the recent confirmation that HBO cut episodes 9 and 10 from their budget last minute, this definitely seems right. This would've been a good episode 8 for a 10 episode season. (Source: thedirect.com/article/house-of-the-dragon-season-2-cancelled-episodes#:~:text=Turns%20out%20that%20House%20of,from%20Deadline%20in%20March%202023.)
@@CrusaderChris now I get why they hired a director with poor filmmaking portfolio to make this episode
@@CrusaderChris yeah definitely I don't think anyone would've have hated this episode if there was another 2 to come for this season.
Was Hotd trying to hard to link to GoT. Was this what Martin was miffed?
George is clearly not happy with the writing just take a look at his latest blog post.
bruh. Why did they invite him to the show just to pull off shit like this anyway?. They're adapting a finished book ffs
@@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 the book is written based on different person narratives so GRRM job is to confirm what’s cannon
@@yingkouzen "confirm what's canon". I don't think so. The show removed Maelor, another son of Aegon II. Later GRRM wrote on his blog criticizing it by saying "Maelor the Missing". The show moved Sheepstealer from Dragonstone to the Vale. Later GRRM criticized it again on his blog, saying "fiction needs to be grounded....This ruins the world building".
12:36 I mean, Daeron is the most fit to rule out of the three brothers (I hope we can all agree on that) but he is also the most reasonable. Fire and Blood states that he is more used to follow orders than to give them and that he is kind and humble. So convincing him not to press his claim doesn't sound that impossible. And when it comes to the Black perspective: He had little to do with the Green coup, he was just vibing in Oldtown. Daeron did not steal the throne like Aegon and he did not kill a child of Rhaenyra like Aemond. So convincing Rhaenyra to spare Daeron if he swears loyalty doesn't sound that impossible either, they could even marry him to Rhaena to unite Green and Black.
Nah, as long as there is a son of Viserys alive, Rhaenyra's claim or that of her children will be in danger, nothing would assure the blacks that Daeron would take the throne when Rhaenyra died and started a war against Jace, or that the children of Daeron and Rhaena will not reveal themselves.
Yes or yes Rhaenyra would have to kill him.
Not the most fit more like the least fuxked up.
@@edgarrojas5060Either way down the line there was always going to be a rebellion or a grabbing of power from Aegons line.
I pray that the writers don't defecate all over the show by making Daeron switch side to team Black, because you know.. he's "good"
@@badyoutuber1986 from Gwayne 's description he's actually not at all fukt up
Hellen Keller popping up when you said 'listen'
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I think you are right about HOTD being set in a different timeline. The amount of discrepancies between the 2 shows keep piling up and they’re clearly on purpose at this point
I knew that tree guy was a Targaryen because of you ✨ So thank you for your always thorough and detailed videos! I’m not dedicated enough to read or listen to the books. So you sacrificing your health to make video essays and episode recaps on the intricate lore details that I absolutely would not understand otherwise is very much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
You can pretty much say that #TeamGreen was disintegrated in the last episode. Now it's only Aemond & Daeron against the World
I’m seriously trying to understand what the plan could be with their contradicting GOT to this degree with respect to Dany and Bloodraven.
I don't really care about the book material because let's be honest, F&B isn't much of a book, and the characters in it ain't really characters, instead they are just a descriptions of what characters could've been and it's even implied that at least half of it is bullshit anyway, so the writers truly DID have basically a blank check at making all the characters whatever they wanted them to be, YET THEY SOMEHOW MANAGED TO SHIT ALL OVER THEIR OWN CHARACTERS THAT THEY THEMSELVES BASICALLY CAME UP WITH, RUINED THEIR PERSONALITIES AND MOTIVATIONS THAT THEY THEMSELVES HAVE GIVEN THEM! I've gotta say that's just the next level of shit writing
Excellent editing as always. And I could not agree more about your thoughts on Helaena communicating with her son’s murderer. The abominable Alicent and Rhaenyra scene has already taken 2 years of my life so I will not get angry about it again. Thanks for reviewing the whole season. It’s been a ride.
If a good story is so important, why they don't tell us a good f*king story?
fucking THIS
Are you seriously editing their eyes to purple in EVERY scene or am I crazy? That is such a high effort troll
I’m committed to the bit at this point
This guy is putting hbo to shame
I thought Bloodraven was like 60 when he becomes lord commander.
He absolutly is
He also had one eye…
2:35 Just another normal day in the life of Aegon II Targaryen.
crispy cole the poet LOL
"Except it was Arya all along, woooww" 😂😂
Lmao "get away from her, get a job!"
12:20 I may not *need* your full yap on the subject, but I actually really wanted it 😭😂
I think they are heavily implying that aemond is going to push her and blame it on her mental illness. It wouldn’t surprise her because I’m sure she also knows when she’s going to die and isnt going to fight the universe on it.
Yeah i’ve always wanted to interpret for my own mental health that Jon is still the Prince that was Promised cause he united almost every kingdom to fight the White Walkers and warned everyone about them, but it still should’ve been him who ended it directly
I’ve been saying it for a while, we only consider the first four (maybe 5) seasons of Game of Thrones Canon, the rest was dumb and dumber fan fiction. And that’s the truth of it.
What about house of the kissing lesbians season 2…
@@badyoutuber1986 Rhaenyra gave hardcore bisexual vibes all through the first half of season 1 with Alicent (the actors even said they played it with a sexual tension, and it showed)
She’s literally married and has children with her UNCLE, but you find a kiss between her and another woman a step too far??
That’s kinda wild
@@connormulholland2054 No reasonable personal thought Allicent and Rheanyra were going to Fxck😂. And answer me these. Do you think sex makes everything better?What was the point of that kiss narratively speaking? In what way does it contribute to the political CIVIL WAR of fire breathing lizard tamers? Why just why shove this in our faces?
5 is not canon due to Decimation of the mannis
@@D.Rodrigues_18 very fucking true
1:48 Because the events of the present can change the future. Furthermore, she wouldn’t tend to burn innocent people, only combo with Aemond to kill Daemon, but apparently Helaena prefers to be the spiritual guide of her son's murderer instead of killing him XD.
Helaena probably disliked his son.
@@anotheryoutubeuser Seriously? 😑
@@edgarrojas5060 Yeah, she disliked him so much that she decided to help the person who caused his death. True hater sh*t!
0:39 Tywin: "Da'fuq?" LMAO
They really tried hard with that line.
All i' m saying if it wasnt for aemond, the night king would be still alive..... #teamgreen
14:01 take better care of yourself! ❤
Bro did you edit their eyes?
he always does
if im not mistaken its a video called book accurated game of thrones characters
Came here to ask this 😂
He does it to prove the show could but is just lazy (and he's right)
I found both season 1 and 2 of HOTD a bit thin and spread out just like Season 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones. I don't remember re watching HOTD season 1 and the same will be true for season 2.
I think ot should be season show. 10-12 episodes a seasons.
Season 1 the back story
Season 2 129 AC
Season 3 130 AC
Season 4 131 AC and the conclusion
“Why I care so much about the dragon show is to distract me from that fact I’m going to die one day” HIT SO HARD. gonna be my first response anytime someone asks me why I love this shit so much. Thanks you :)
WHOS GONNA FREE MY MANS 😤
It makes me crazy how Alicent and Rhaenyra just swan in and out of enemy territory. I really liked the Triarchy scenes though, they were fun.
Craaaaazzzzyyyy.
At least Cole is insightful enough to realize he's a gigantic, honorless, douche-canoe. Perhaps his one redeeming quality, outside of being an above-average melee fighter (his fighting with a morningstar flail was much more graceful than his incredibly stiff, mechanical swordsmanship).
RIP Nettles, you were too good for HOTD
Alyn has nothing to do with his book countrepart but Corlys and Addam were depicted accurately. Corlys was shown as man who felt weight of his family loses and contemplated abandoning Rhaenyra's cause, until being swayed by his grandchild (albeit different grandchild than in book, as in source material it was Jacaerys not Baela, though Baela no doubt supported this mission given her fierce dedication to Rhaenyra and Jace).
And Addam is simply 💋😍 - I loved everyting about him! He is bit older than in book, in 20s rather than teenager, but he is courageous and loyal just like in source material. And he also has this sympathethic aura about him, and cherry at top - he is also incredibly handsome 😅💞🥵
Thank you so much for editing their eyes to be the correct color. I really fucking hate that they don't do this in the show
purple eyes are a nice touch, also held by beesbury, but with the help of bigfoot larry for sure. never call that man a TOAD
Otto has been locked away by Larys Clubfoot in defiance of his orders and is left in Kings Landing for Rhaenyra to stumble upon and execute him
This bloodraven looks really young. He ends up north of the wall much later in his life.
I really disliked the indecisiveness and sitting around of nearly everyone this season. If Tywin Lannister was transported back in time to this series he would've won the whole war without dragons simply because he does things while everyone else is standing around with their dicks in their hands.
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Corly's said 6 dragons while Larys said 7. And since aegon said his dragon is dead, I'm hoping the writer's are leaving room for the possibility of Sunfire to return 😣
As for Haelena, i was was very certain Aemond was about to throw her off the balcony in that scene 😅 at the very least, grab her by the neck for a few seconds before letting her go
I also wish her dialogue was a combination of cryptic and direct, leaving aemond confused about what his sister just told him, not fully understanding or accepting that she just told him the future
Sunfyre was still breathing in that episode and Aegon was unconscious. So idk, maybe Aemond told him his dragon's dead
I doubt Aemond is such a believer in random prophecy that he'll take his sister's ramblings as objective fact.
The mountain clansmen would probably not be hanging around where a wild dragon is known to roam
Based on how long it took Rhaena to track Sheepstealer down, it seems like that range is pretty large
You make fantastic videos brother! We love it
Thank you!
Overall I really enjoyed this season, but nowhere near as much as s1. It was gutted by both having their budget reduced to only enough for 8 eps and then the writer's strike preventing them from rewriting, but I think they did a pretty good job regardless. My biggest issue is how much of Jace's story they cut. We didn't get to see his negotations in the vale and the north so it left him with nothing to do in the first half of the season. If he hadn't returned to Dragonstone until ep 3/4 then it would have done a lot for both his character and the wider story. Him being away for so many of the events of the early season could have had impacted Rhaenyra and have her spiral down further, basically being alone until Jace returned. It could have also led to some good drama between them and Mysaria, with Jace returning to see his mother isolated from the council and only seeking counsel from this strange woman. It's a shame thinking of the season we could have gotten if they hadn't cut those parts of Jace's story.
Why is everyone assuming Helaena actually saw his dream? there's no reason he couldn't... you know.. also just dream of her like normal people dream of their family?
Actully Alicent sold out Aegon, Dearon, Aemond, Gwayne and Otto all the males in her family to be killed by Rhaenyra. In order too Run away to Essos whit her daughter and granddaughter, really some top notch writing there. Have they forgotten Alicents whole season 1 arc was about protecting her children All her children. has she forgot about the brutal murder if her grandson?
Main part of storytelling keeping the bloodlines pure - GRRM probably
It's amazing how you could change the Targaryens eyes to the correct colour but the shows couldn't. They couldn't even at least do it for the Velaryons to make them more convincing after race swapping them. They actually would've looked cool and more organic with purple eyes, instead of just a bunch of actors in blonde wigs.
You go off king 🐸 Great breakdowns this season. I sit and await the next breakdowns in 2 years.
I think the BR differences is done on purpose, they want to make it that this is basically a multiverse. Helaena also says it’s Aemond who will be absorbed by the Gods’ Eye and never be found again, which is at odds with what happens in the book, although it remains to be seen. Maybe Aemond will skinchange Daemon before dying….
bro...im so happy i found ur channel. ur like alt shift x but with a personality and humor...you also add subjective pov which is nice. will always watch in future
What I liked: The headbop by the Golden Doggo.
What I didn't liked: everything else
All things I wanted to see but I didn't get and will not get until next adaptation (which is... probably not in my lifetime) - PART 2:
6) More sentences from Joffrey - I know he is younger than in book, but he was such brave boy in book!
7) Book Jacaerys who is unapologetic about his look and endorses smallfolk, not Jacaerys who flipped his personality with book Rhaenyra.
8) Morning's egg or Morning's hatching.🐲🟣
9) Rhaena living far from war in Vale and this unique perspective.
10) Some confrontation between Jacaerys and Daemon regarding how they view each other. All evidence points to Daemon supports Jace rights and Daemon also seems love Lucerys in his way given how he affectionate called him "Luke", and Jacaerys in s 2 seems to admire Daemon's charisma - yet they had this tense sceen in 1x10 and it would be nice to have conversation between them how things stand and how Daemon feels about Jace succession.
So the three eyed raven saw all of these prophecies in HOTD but didn't see Arya kill the Night King, thus avoiding this all out war
They took out. Nettles. Bring her back.
It's a totally out of the box thought, but I wonder if the updated end of Helaena's storyline will involve the Weirwood they added to the KL godswood. Maybe she manages to technically sacrifice herself to the tree and it explains her upgraded prophesy powers and her otherwise unusual connection to green magic?
Instead making it about prophecy and going on our nostalgia they should focus on Dance of Dragons
Not griving my son die because he won't save the world - Halena probably
HOTD did a more book accurate Daario Naharis than GOT.
oh my, helaena with purple eyes is just ethereal 💜
Isn't bloodraven supposed to have an eyepatch by the time he became the 3-eyed Raven? I suppose they didn't give him one since he never had one in the original show. Though the original show never confirmed that Bloodraven was the raven - it was still just a book theory from my understanding.
Stupid season, GoT season 7 levels of dumb
I know how Haelena will pass. It will be her link to her dragon that causes it. It will be during the riots, led by the Shepard. Her dragon will be under attack and panicked. Haelena will be more in the dragon pit, than with her own body during the attack. She will not mean to throw herself, it will be more of a confused and panicked accident rather than an episode of intentional self harm.
Consistently making me laugh out loud. Well done Sir.
We are retconning got it makes it so much better
Loved the Life aquatique reference
The show becomes far more enjoyable when you don’t consider season 8 cannon
At this point you're edging us with the dany video 😭
Yea I definitely think Otto’s imprisoned by the Beesburys
Halaena, blood raven, and the witch know they are in a book.
4:15 I think the mountain clansmen would avoid the livestock-steeling rogue nuclear weapon, while Raena is actively following it. It would’ve been great if the mountain clansmen appeared or were mentioned but the fact they’re not around doesn’t frustrate me at all really
Very good. Subbed and liked
I don’t like that they’re cramming the story into such short seasons again, like they did in the last couple seasons of GoT. There’s so much more to put in, so viewers feel more invested and the characters are more multi dimensional, the story more fleshed out. Instead they change key parts of the story to hurry the story alinh, which means leaving a lot out.
The show has gone full season 8. Such wasted potential.
I can't understand why they put so much effort into "fixing" the ending of game of thrones with the bullshit dagger prophecy. The ending of Got was a unsalvageble disaster and they should have kept this story entirelt seperate but it is too late and i think the show is ruined at this point
All things I wanted to see but I didn't get and will not get until next adaptation (which is... probably not in my lifetime):
1) Joffrey trying to avenge Luke and moment with him and his stepgrandparents stopping and comforting him.
2) Alyn and Addam being the same age as Jacaerys and Baela and four of them bonding. (Bonding still can happen - but age of characters will make potential dynamics radically different.😒)
3) Jacaerys being de facto leader of Black faction, much respected by followers, not only figurhead he was in show.
4) Jacaerys and Corlys talk after Rhaenys's death and stepgrandfather/stepgrandson dynamic. (Scene with Baela and Corlys was cool and I'm glad Baela said plain and clear that she doesn't want Driftmark and deos not feel robbed by Rhaenyra, but I think it would be even better if Jacaerys had talk with Corlys too like in book. Jace and Baela could be both have tis conversation with their grandfather, future king and queen negotiating together ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥)
5) Lady Jeyne who is maternal figure to Rhaena, not Ice Queen we got.🥶🥶🥶