Asshai: Dany's Greatest Mystery in ASOIAF

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  • This video covers the mystery of Asshai, how it's relevant to Daenerys Targaryen's past & future, and how GRRM continuously changes the story of ASOIAF. Watch how I expertly connect Lemongate, Elissa Farman, the Tattered Prince, Euron Greyjoy, and the Meereenese Knot in a video that's supposed to be about Dany and Asshai. If there's one thing I know how to do, it's taking one quote from TWOIAF that states the Azor Ahai prophecy spread west from Asshai and make it loosely tie in with Rhaegar and Aegon the Conqueror's dreams culminating in a Daenerys / Jon Snow Azor Ahai combo meal.
    Music by Quest Master questmaster.bandcamp.com/albu...
    Art credits docs.google.com/document/d/e/...
    Plant animation / @davidk9193
    GRRM's letter to his publisher 1993 imgur.com/a/U8JY3c5
    GRRM RE: Asshai • George RR Martin on As...
    GRRM RE: Asshai 2008 www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
    GRRM RE: Asshai 2011 www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
    GRRM RE: Meerenese Knot
    www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
    GRRM RE: planet size www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/...
    GRRM RE: Tyrion's acrobatics www.adriasnews.com/2012/10/geo...
    GRRM RE: Tyrion & Shrouded Lord • In conversation: Georg...
    Ryan Condal RE: Aegon's Dream screenrant.com/house-dragon-a...
    Contact: crusaderchris89@gmail.com
    Twitter: / crusaderchris89
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Asshai & the Shadow
    7:46 GRRM's evolving story
    11:25 Asshai's role so far
    15:09 Dany heading west?
    20:24 GRRM talks Asshai
    22:24 Other ways Asshai can appear
    27:42 Lessons from Asshai
    #asoiaf #gameofthrones #houseofthedragon
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  • @behurastudio
    @behurastudio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +437

    The line of “there are no children in Asshai” remains one of the most ominous bits of worldbuilding in all of fiction. And this is coming from a world where there are like 8 different diseases that “make your flesh slough off your bones as you piss blood”

    • @siamihari8717
      @siamihari8717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Asshai may be less a landmass and more a location. maybe a grand magic school like a helscape hogwarts

    • @charlieboone1298
      @charlieboone1298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Better than the one that makes you shit blood too, tbf. The Seven bestow their blessing where they may.

    • @zonedutopia
      @zonedutopia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      For me it meant that there's no one for Daenerys to care for there, she calls her ppl "her children"

    • @IonIsFalling7217
      @IonIsFalling7217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Seems to me it’s about innocence. There are no animals or children there.

    • @ryuk5673
      @ryuk5673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s just a metaphor. It’s not literal

  • @KingKong11730
    @KingKong11730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    The show really nailed Tyrion’s acrobatics in later seasons. His character flipped and flopped all over the place

  • @HouseoftheWerewolf
    @HouseoftheWerewolf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    I believe Asshai is one of those thing that GRRM will never fully explain and to be remain as mysterious as the Doom of Valyria.

    • @AshleyWilliamsN7
      @AshleyWilliamsN7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You're hoping for a fleshing out of Asshai from George? I'm just hoping Winds actually gets finished.

    • @HouseoftheWerewolf
      @HouseoftheWerewolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@AshleyWilliamsN7 George's never intended to release Winds anytime soon. and Dreams will probably never intended to release at all, I think he's trolling us; GRRM probably plan to drop Dreams the day he die. So he doesn't have to listen to us being angry at him for the ending.

    • @nicksgmail9663
      @nicksgmail9663 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HouseoftheWerewolf I think this is pretty much it. If it's getting released then it's getting released at a time where he won't get bullied online for it. He's clearly annoyed with the fanbase for it, I think it's kind of a funny troll tbf. Also makes sense that he's written himself into a corner and simply doesn't want to admit it, and the final product will just have to contain lots of inconsistencies because it's too complicated and he doesn't want significant help.

    • @Str8Deenin47
      @Str8Deenin47 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, one of my biggest writing pet peeves is when a piece of world building that was intended as a throwaway line or to flesh out the background is explained, often in an unsatisfying and lore breaking/twisting way. Destiny 2 was the fucking worst at this. Let mysteries stay mysteries.

    • @devinfleenor3188
      @devinfleenor3188 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AshleyWilliamsN7 I think its more possible to get an Asshai HBO drama then for the books to be finished.

  • @williamhermann6635
    @williamhermann6635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    I think the bit about there being no children in Asshai has a double meaning: no children of the forest

    • @KingKong11730
      @KingKong11730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That seems like a pretty strange assertion when the children are confined to one specific region, so almost everywhere has no children of the forest. Seems pretty self evident

    • @williamhermann6635
      @williamhermann6635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@KingKong11730 But we dont know that the cotf are confined to one location. The ifequevron (if i even spelled that right) have strong cotf vibes and theyre in northern essos. Leng seems like it has some serious old gods/cotf stuff going on too. And who knows with southoryos? Point is, I think its beyond safe to assume cotf arent just in westeros. They very well could have been in the areas around Asshai prior to whatever doom-like event happened there. George doesnt waste words and much of what he tells us has multiple meanings.

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @KingKong11730 The children of the forest are responsible for the white walkers, and there are tales/accounts of white walkers that come from all over the world besides Westeros

    • @TheMijoAaron
      @TheMijoAaron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@6tiple6ix6afiaI just hope George remembers all this lore

    • @thool
      @thool 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm pretty sure in the world book, there was a forrest near Asshai that had stories about the children of the forest.

  • @Fire_Summoner
    @Fire_Summoner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    Asshai's description is closely in line with the Red Waste being irradiated. The irradiated water damages cells of fish mutating them and the harm to the reproductive system of residence prevents them from having kids.

    • @nerdelf3704
      @nerdelf3704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I agree there is some sort of radiation or maybe magic

    • @MandaGnosis
      @MandaGnosis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Pretty sure it’s magic

    • @the_chosen_one5642
      @the_chosen_one5642 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its Radiation ​@@MandaGnosis

  • @johnmitchell4043
    @johnmitchell4043 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    in a feast for crow prince doran tellhis daughter he planned to send her to Tyrosh when she was younger to meet danny and her bro. this mean the targs were in tyrosh and so was the house with the red door and all its lemons. also in a game of thrones, the wine merchant who tries to poison danny hears her accent and asks if she's from Tyrosh and she says 'my accent is Tyroshy but I am from Westeros' She grew up in Tyrosh...

  • @rafanando4207
    @rafanando4207 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Just a side thought, Volantis is the first daughter of Valyria while Daenerys could be considered the Last Daughter of Valyiria, their conflict would reflect the refusal to change and the inevitability of change.

  • @heloisavillela8065
    @heloisavillela8065 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I always felt that Daenerys’ "lightbringer" would be the dragons. She didn’t sacrifice Drogo and Rhaego to get them, but they were hatched out of the pire Drogo was burned in, and she would probably never perform that ritual if she hadn’t lost Drogo and Rhaego in the first place

    • @exothermic1942
      @exothermic1942 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In a way, she decided to kill them both, she basically said she convinced herself it wouldn't be Rhaego but thought it might be to save Drogo, then kills Drogo herself. We also see her keep trying to hatch the eggs, so maybe the failed attempts of Azor Again were those failed attempts trying to hatch the dragons. Makes a lot of sense to me

    • @simplyawful543
      @simplyawful543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@exothermic1942 I believe the theory that only Drogon specifically is lightbringer, the other 3 dragons are the failed attempts, I feel like many people forget that an important aspect in the forging of lightbringer was Nissa Nissa allowing the sword to go through her, sacrificing herself, Dany walking into the pyre was the equivalent of that

    • @irondragonmaiden
      @irondragonmaiden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@exothermic1942 I mean, when she kills Drogo it's out of mercy, since he's basically been rendered as a vegetable. I know I would want someone to put me out of my misery if I was a braindead vegetable.

    • @JaceMorley
      @JaceMorley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only death can pay for life. Three deaths, three living dragons.

  • @Ryan-vl2nn
    @Ryan-vl2nn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    It would be so cool to see locations such as Assha’i, Yi Ti, Leng, the 5 Forts and Sothoryos.

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is highly unlikely that ASOIAF China will never be shown

  • @sblinder1978
    @sblinder1978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Tyrion's acrobatics are still a thing: he does a cartwheel at the brothel just before he gets grabbed by Jorah Mormont.

    • @shaycase1834
      @shaycase1834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I just re read that chapter a couple days ago. I had forgot about his gymnast tumbling.

    • @Retnoob
      @Retnoob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then the next chapter later he can barely walk because of his leg muscles. His gymnastic crap is utterly unbelievable. Stops the story dead every time I get to it. @@shaycase1834

    • @Rumkitty2000
      @Rumkitty2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that the person who made that comment wasn't referring to physical gymnastics but rather his character in the show when they ran out of book material.

    • @Retnoob
      @Retnoob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, seriously. Tyrion the guy who can barely walk without pain randomly can do gymnastic tumbling. It's a head-scratcher that stopped the book cold for me.
      @@Rumkitty2000

  • @ghostranger5890
    @ghostranger5890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Speaking of Glass Candles, imagine if Marwyn actually taught Daenerys how to create one? Maybe he found some insights and knowledge through the lost pages of Signs and Portents, or maybe learned something in Ashai. But without dragons, such a creation was impossible. It would be cool to see the return of magic personified, in a way, by the creation of a piece of magical technology not forge from scratch in centuries.

  • @Yvario
    @Yvario 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    “To go west, you must pass under the shadow,” the shadow city, the city that is a shadow of itself: Volantis.

  • @JaceMorley
    @JaceMorley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think Dani going to Ashai is possible, but maybe not bringing her POV with her. Instead we'll get a post-Ashai Dani with a reluctance to go into detail even in her memory about what happened.

  • @anonymous-hz2un
    @anonymous-hz2un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    In short, GRRM had introduced a concept he now has no idea how to insert into the main plot. I'm willing to bet he regrets the whole character of Quaithe.

    • @okdude8215
      @okdude8215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I thought it would be her going to Ashai and coming from the west to Casterly Rock, instead GRRM is just stuck in Mereen.

    • @andrewb2156
      @andrewb2156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Marvin the Mage will give Danny a glass candle allowing her to astral project into Ashai and communicate with Quathe.

  • @LaraHarker91
    @LaraHarker91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I just want this damn old man to finish this series before he goes to the star fields!😂

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx1690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    We will see it through glass candle that Marywn will bring to Daenerys what we will see maybe finally truth about Dany past and maybe some events from future

    • @Aydan2108
      @Aydan2108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My exact thoughts

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    A land of magic users who dwell in darkness to hone their skills sounds super dope.
    I wonder how the city actually functions with such a tiny population. If dragons do exist there, there's not too many, and they don't fly far from the peninsula.

    • @stevenkunkle3857
      @stevenkunkle3857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They probably have somebody who specializes in botany

    • @elijahalbiston
      @elijahalbiston 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It makes me wonder how Corlys Valaryion managed to survive a visit.

  • @davidbadillomirete8226
    @davidbadillomirete8226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think the Dany's plot on book 2 was meant to have Dany travel throught the Jade sea visiting different locations and reach Asshai at the end maybe the house of the Undying original location was Stygai and Euron who is involved with the Warlocks and is mentioned by Theon several times in the book could appear as someone trying to marry Daenerys so he can get the dragons, thinks wouldn't work as Euron planed but he would conect with some higher power at Stygai and change plans deciding to go to Valyria by himself where he would find the dragobinder horn, maybe it was to long and Martin decided to contain the story in Asshai

  • @AshleyWilliamsN7
    @AshleyWilliamsN7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    If George thinks of himself as a gardener more than a writer, can we ask if he has remembered that gardeners usually water their garden?

    • @college54114
      @college54114 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The fact we’re watching a thirty minute video essay about his art and the world he’s crafted shows he has watered it a lot. I wish people weren’t rude to GRRM. I know we all want TWOW, but this incredible author gave us such great art and such an amazing series, we should be more grateful and less snarky

  • @jordanford9320
    @jordanford9320 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Holy shit! Great fucking video. I know you condescend yourself sometimes saying you're not as good as so and so TH-camr but stop that shit cuz you're doing fucking fantastic work my dude

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you for the support

    • @elijahalbiston
      @elijahalbiston 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In all honesty, his series on the Targaryen Kings is my favorite. I realize he may have reached the Dragonbane and thus the end of Fire and Blood. But the videos are great.

  • @umwha
    @umwha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Theory! Danys eggs come from the dragon Dreamfyre. Dreamfyre is literally the mother of the dragons. So Daenerys is symbolically taking the role of Dreamfyre. Maybe the name ‘Daenerys’ means dream fire in Valyrian. ‘Dae’ can mean dream (Daenys the dreamer suits this) and ‘Erys’ or ‘Nerys’ can mean fire . The idea of dream-fire seems to fit, in the sense that it represents psychic power, and resonates with the idea that within the weirnet there is a magical godhead of dreams/ dreamers and their power is symbolically a type of divine fire within trees.

  • @Aerie925
    @Aerie925 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There def won’t be any Asshai if we’re to take Martin at his word. He has said that he has no intention of exploring Asshai other than the vague rumors that we’ve heard over the course of the series.

  • @Jonjzi
    @Jonjzi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Part of me believes that the initial Bran chapter (famous for coming to George in a flash of inspiration brought about by the phrase "the summer snows) was supposed to be a part of "Avalon," which he refers to as his unfinished work-in-progress before switching over to develop ASoIaF. I think he must have recognized that the weight of this chapter was significant enough to warrant its own story, so he ultimately repurposed all his old ideas and fused them together. But what do I know? This is all pure speculation anyway.

  • @mapletree3434
    @mapletree3434 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The moment GRRM called himself 'a gardener' as a writer as opposed to 'architects' (writers who KNOW the structure and arcs of their work), I knew he would be frustrating to read. In other words, he has no idea what he's doing although he is a genius. THAT makes it so much worse! We get attached to his brilliant writing and he is meandering to the point of never finishing the freaking story.

    • @alexarias5717
      @alexarias5717 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he over did it. It's not bad being a gardener but don't let the garden get overrun and forget about the main crops

  • @jonathanyaloussa
    @jonathanyaloussa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lomas Longstrider seems like a nod to GRRM's friend and Wheel of Time author, Robert Jordan: there's a famed and legendary traveller in the WoT called Jain Farstrider who is known the world over for his travels all over the world.

  • @andrewb2156
    @andrewb2156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Marwyn the Mage will give Danny a glass candle allowing her to astral project into Ashai and communicate with Quathe.

    • @AdamNoizer
      @AdamNoizer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Lmao Marvin

    • @Dani_1012
      @Dani_1012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      *Marwyn
      And yes I believe he will give Dany a glass candle too, supposedly once George said he didn't have enough time anymore for Dany to go all the way to Asshai so a glass candle is a clever solution to make the trip

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @Dani_1012 No he is literally right. Marvin the Mage is the brother of who you're referring to. He is a glass candle shopkeeper God you GOT fans know nothing of ASOIAF. You know nothing Dani_1012

    • @andrewknoll7716
      @andrewknoll7716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He left it in Oldtown.

    • @MagicSecretsandMysteries
      @MagicSecretsandMysteries 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewknoll7716he took the green one with him I believe

  • @koejileo
    @koejileo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    When this man GRRM inevitably dies without completing ASOIAF, i hope that other authors are allowed to write lore expanding tales within this universe

  • @emrek99205
    @emrek99205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    13:49 Jorah is an idiot. If dragons and dragon eggs come from Asshai, then why would they want more dragon eggs? If they trade dragon eggs for food and water then the eggs aren't as useful to them and won't fetch a very high price there.

  • @isaisa967
    @isaisa967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I guess once again we won’t know unless George finishes the books😵‍💫

  • @davidtonner5493
    @davidtonner5493 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Chris, your domination of the ASOIAF TH-cam continues. Great video!!

  • @epic_andra
    @epic_andra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pretty sure Drogon takes Dany to Asshai after she dies in Westeros. I don’t think there is any time for her to visit the Shadowlands before sailing West, but knowing everything you say in this video plus what the show gave us, I think she will be resurrected there

  • @BeteBlanc
    @BeteBlanc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    As I was watching I realized something possibly interesting. You mention the assumption Euron used the egg to pay for an assassin. Maybe, but maybe Euron did something more interesting.
    You pointed out that Euron, Mirri, and Marwyn have been to Asshai. What if that's the connection? Could Euron, his myrish friend having failed, designed the marriage to Drogo to hatch his eggs? It draws the line between Mirri and Euron. Sending Dany into the Dothraki sea with the eggs toward Mirri who helps Dany hatch them. They arrive in Qarth where we believe the Pirate King began his journey to Westeros from after having seen the dragons had hatched.
    So Euron fails to hatch an egg and goes to Illyrio having her married to Drogo. Explains how he got them, why he'd give her such a valuable gift. He did it to pay off a debt to Euron. Euron has his horn, he's obviously prepared for Dany to have hatched them, which makes him the only person in the world who seemed to be ready. If he set it all up, his plotline and Illyrio's actions make more sense no?
    This removes the need for Dany to go to Asshai. She can learn this truth anywhere. It may also explain Quaithe. She may have learned of this plot while she was in Asshai and has been trying to disrupt or hyjack it? Or she was a part of it, ensuring Dany actually managed to do it?
    Crazy?

    • @elijahalbiston
      @elijahalbiston 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haven’t actually read the books yet, though I’ve watched a ton of videos. (Reading thru Fire & Blood rn). But I don’t think you’re crazy.
      What’s crazy is if this is right, because then we know that Daenerys and the most powerful new threat, besides the Walkers, was just completely set up by Euron. Which makes us wonder… what does Euron want?? And how close is he to really getting it??

  • @createdbyseere
    @createdbyseere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video, as usual. Great job with the editing as well!

  • @gtxpolo9352
    @gtxpolo9352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    probably one of the best ASOIAF videos I’ve watched recently man. It was really enjoyable appreciate it

  • @yoshilorak5897
    @yoshilorak5897 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Its funny that those Volantene nobles think themselves higher than Dany and Viserys when in the old Valyrian empire they wouldve been worshipped by the Volantenes as Gods owing to their Dragonlord blood.

  • @shitdegekk
    @shitdegekk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You doing great work friend. Keep it coming💪

  • @cbob213
    @cbob213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another great video. Keep it up mate.

  • @noeraldinkabam
    @noeraldinkabam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the eggs were from Dragonstone Illyrio gave her a gift that was hers already, stolen from her family. He could hardly tell her that. I feel Asshai is so foreign, so out of reach for anybody, it is easy to claim something is from Asshai. Who’s gonna correct you?

  • @zozezoze0425
    @zozezoze0425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a cool video continue the hard work❤.😊

  • @rosspowell6423
    @rosspowell6423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video!

  • @KnittyElf
    @KnittyElf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video! ❤

  • @aahantechno8260
    @aahantechno8260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There is no chillin in Asshai

    • @college54114
      @college54114 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Made me laugh out loud

  • @worldadventuretravel
    @worldadventuretravel 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for compiling this, it reminds me there are still interesting storylines from GRRM's work and it wasn't all a waste of time just because of the failed show ending. Asshai-by-the-Shadow should have been the FIRST spinoff series HBO came up with, but nooo, instead we get a Jon Snow and the Night's Watch which was supposed to come to an end when the white walkers stopped being a thing, and a show based on a different book GRRM went off and wrote instead of finishing ASIOAF.

  • @assman4319
    @assman4319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved that opening

  • @dragob84
    @dragob84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hey Crusader, I really enjoy your content, and for future videos I would like to know how do you think Jon and Danny will meet in the books?
    It's not a topic that is covered a lot and I would like to know your vision

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’m planning a video about every Dany/Essos plotline in TWOW (like my Northern plotlines video) so I imagine I’ll discuss Jon and Dany at length there. Although I’m not so sure they’ll meet by the end of Winds… Thanks for watching!

  • @pulloutchamp3219
    @pulloutchamp3219 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm sure this has been said somewhere already but what if eurons not lying but telling a half truth. He used the dragon egg to pay the faceless men to kill his brother by throwing him into the sea. So he threw this egg into the sea aka his brother.

  • @Kranti011
    @Kranti011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is genuinely hilarious you referred to Elissa as Rhaena’s friend haha

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They were suuuper close roommates

  • @LegendOfFuzzi
    @LegendOfFuzzi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos mate!
    I've also always wondered why the Dragon Lords before the Doom didn't invade and conquer Westeros?

  • @umwha
    @umwha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:44 Oh I get it! Ilyrio says the Eggs came from asshai. Alyssa’s ship ended up in asshai. She took the eggs to asshai, sold or lost them, and they were layered bought and made their way to Ilyrio.

    • @_antillas8674
      @_antillas8674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, she kinda did, but she sold them to the Sealord of Braavos to afford the construction of that very ship. The eggs did not travel west, nor have they been to Asshai.

    • @umwha
      @umwha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_antillas8674 Oh! Was it directly confirmed that all 3 eggs were sold? I feel like one egg would be enough to fund a ship. This could be a misdirection from George.

  • @Ilargizuri
    @Ilargizuri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hate to say it but at the Moment that Person is Dead! At least that's what we are told to believe and even if he comes Back from the Dead or was never dead, that is not the true Love of a Mother. And that's Daenerys's Archetype in the Books, that of a Mother. Not a very good one, but a Mother nonetheless and the one true Love of a Mother, a true Mother, are always her Children. We are told more than once, that a Mother loves no one like she loves her Children, Cersei says so, Catelyn also implies it more than once and even Olenna gives us hints about this by how she talks about her own Son but always helps him to gain more Power for House Tyrell.
    So Daenerys has to sacrifice her Children to defeat the Others, which means her Dragons.

    • @Aydan2108
      @Aydan2108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I believe that rhaegal will die before the long night, and Daenerys and drogon will both die in it, and Viserion will be the last dragon.

    • @fuckoffgoogle1657
      @fuckoffgoogle1657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So just a thought, this theory is great my only issue is, and it’s not a you or your theory issue so much as a George’s problem kinda issue is if it’s aiming for a low magic ending like the show, where dragons die and the others are defeated…I feel like there’s no place for super high magic kgb surveillance state king bran in an ending of no more dragons because as we know magic has really only returned in the book series to the west, at least when the dragons came back to the world. It breaks the world building kinda

  • @reidcacaro2919
    @reidcacaro2919 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just because Danny met Marwyn in book 1 and same meets him in book 5 it doesn’t necessarily mean George planned it from the start. Also Great video man!

  • @lutilda
    @lutilda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the theory that Ashai doesn't have children because it's not a place where people are /from/ only a place you can live/ visit. People may stay there the rest of their lives but no one grows up there. It's focused on learning and practicing magic. So I see it functioning kind of like a university campus. Plus, its more than inhospitable, so it's not a place where it would be safe to raise a child.

  • @VirtualHolocaust
    @VirtualHolocaust 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dude im such a big fan of the original dune movie. I heard they made a book based on it. But honestly im not big into reading. Plus i enjoy the original source material anyways.

  • @viperswhip
    @viperswhip 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As regards Mel, she is right where she needs to be and took the most efficient route to get there. She may not understand her visions but they did put her right where she needs to be. Let's say she just showed up at the Wall by herself, ya, that's not going to work, she ended up with the only King who went there. She is, of course, being led to Jon, it's just taking her some time to realize that.

  • @nanoramirez9331
    @nanoramirez9331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is just when you google something and you are bombarded with ads everywhere about the thing you searched 2 months ago

  • @peepindis
    @peepindis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Asshai is large enough to contain Volantis, Qarth, Old Town, and King's Landing"
    I have no concrete theories, but were those 4 particular cities included for a good reason? Does anybody have a guess? Do they all have glass candles?

  • @Aaronhoulston
    @Aaronhoulston 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I disagree with you saying that dany wont go to ashai last we have heard she was taken on the back of drogo and doesnt have full control of him. It was only a few years ago we got fire and blood that described the incident with aerea coming back on balerion after a long time with him having a huge wound most likely from another dragon or some other huge beast (most likely)from Ashai. Im not saying she will go there for sure but to say theres no chance doesnt sit with me.

    • @HubertHumphreyWasHere
      @HubertHumphreyWasHere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What about GRRM literally saying in 2008 and 2011 that we'll never see Asshai? Dany's a POV character... if she goes to Asshai, we'll see Asshai.

    • @_antillas8674
      @_antillas8674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right, except that Balerion took the poor thing to Valyria, not to Asshai…

  • @AllisonMoon-SheWandersFeral
    @AllisonMoon-SheWandersFeral 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:32 of course the High Red Temple is in Asshai: why would anyone know the Most Secret Secrets?

  • @dionshaewishum4179
    @dionshaewishum4179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Children are sacrificed in Asshai and a great prize indeed. Children need nurturing. No nurturing and morality in Asshai.

    • @jito7377
      @jito7377 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree.
      But what about pregnant women? Are there any or is there child import?

  • @volodimirshmigel2753
    @volodimirshmigel2753 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well you know maybe Dany not going to Asshai might be the critical mistake she makes similar to Ned telling Sersy about her kids that we will later call her mistake that causes her to fail in westeros

  • @nerdelf3704
    @nerdelf3704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I heard from GRRM that no characters are ever going to asshai. Only stories and flashbacks

  • @KarynaStoica2008
    @KarynaStoica2008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any chance the dragon travels to Asshay with Danny's dead body and ... her story may pick up from there? Maybe Drogo the dragon sacrifices his life to bring her back? Because I feel the part where Aria kills the Night King (if that will ever happen in the books) is just the beggining of the story of what created the Night King in the firat place. And whatever that is, it is still behind the wall. Also ... Bran's powers seem a little missued. There is an aftertaste he is destined for so much more ... like actually fly into a Dragon perhaps.

  • @kirkcavanaugh1493
    @kirkcavanaugh1493 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    couldn't the merchants have asked the guy about the palace while they were visiting somewhere other than Asshai? That would not mean that he has physically been there necessarily, only that he was asked a question by someone FROM THERE.

  • @college54114
    @college54114 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So here’s my thoughts about Dany’s dragon eggs: I truly do believe they are Dreamfyre’s eggs, the dragon eggs which were stolen by Elissa Farman. We have been told the story of their theft quite extensively (Elissa Farman’s whole story is easily one of my favorite things in all of ASOIAF lore, such an exciting story of exploration and personal liberation), so I do think we as the audience are being told the origins of Drogon Rhaegal and Viserion, but I just cannot understand why Illyrio Mopatis would lie about where he bought them. So either they’re not Dreamfyre’s eggs, or somehow Dreamfyre’s eggs ended up in Asshai. Why would Mopatis have bought them in the Free Cities but then lie and say he got them from Beyond the Shadow?

  • @emrek99205
    @emrek99205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:25 this makes it sound as if dragons come from Dragonstone. If this were the case then dragons would dominate Westeros. More likely dragons originally come from the near inhospitable land south of Valyria which is home of many hundreds of bizarre creatures. They could have been transplanted to the underground furnace of Valyria to aid in their hatching by the Targaryians and other Valyrian peoples.

  • @Mahawww
    @Mahawww 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Real Historian Moment right there 12:10
    I think you meant to say "Good friend" lol

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Friends, roommates, sisters-in-law, lovers… yeah they were pretty close

  • @MysticOfTheSands
    @MysticOfTheSands 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The size of the city would make sense if it was at one point the capital of the GEotD. Which is what I think it being compared to 4 capital cities (counting Volantis as successor to Valyria and Qarth as former capital of a larger Qartheen territory--plus it's slogan as "greatest city that ever was or will be") is meant to suggest.

  • @IonIsFalling7217
    @IonIsFalling7217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dany literally has to go backwards (into the Dothraki Sea) to go forwards (to Asshai).

  • @joekekker1581
    @joekekker1581 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear GRRM said somewhere that he originally intended Dani to go to Asshai but then changed his mind as it would take to long.

  • @d_randy
    @d_randy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imo, everyone in the story who has a candidate about who’s going to be the Azor Ahai reborn is going to be wrong.
    Dany is important in the fight against the Others, but pretty sure Jon is the (unexpected) true Azor Ahai

    • @Aydan2108
      @Aydan2108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He is everything but the unexpected 💀, even GRRM called him a classic hero.

  • @cheyennehalbach5815
    @cheyennehalbach5815 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone's been saying that drogon is going to take her to old Valeria and somehow find a way to resurrect her... But what if he takes her to the shadowland instead where Danny can learn the truth of what actually caused the extinction of dragons and fix it so that dragons return to westeros

  • @15karlosg
    @15karlosg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She has love from her dragons

  • @LaChoocharina
    @LaChoocharina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I totally misread the thumbnail as “ASSHAT”

  • @jolobor6686
    @jolobor6686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    martin says the planet the story is based in is perhaps bigger than earth not he known map. There is a huge difference

  • @justinq1977
    @justinq1977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe thats it.. everyone wonders how you see such a ship at a port and not stop to ask questions.. maybe he was too afraid to dock and only passed by.. meaning hes the first westerosian there but he never stepped foot on it

  • @dionshaewishum4179
    @dionshaewishum4179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a book after Winds of Winter. There has to be more revelations, more plot to unfold. I wish I were George’s brother or something.

  • @loganathangnanavel4415
    @loganathangnanavel4415 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    According to GRRM, Death Doesn't Just Stay Death Eventually They will come back Any time Also What I Have Suspecting Daeanerys will come back in Future Regarding The Finale Episode of GOT Dany's Dragon took her Corpse and flee So Maybe The Drogon took her to "Asshai People" in shadowland. Perhaps They Could Bring back Dany, Perhaps Not.

  • @7eddiii
    @7eddiii หลายเดือนก่อน

    while i think youre right about volantis taking asshais purpose i still think shes gonna go there she has dragons drogon could easily pull a balerion and fly her to either valyria or asshai and i think asshai would be better because i think he wants to connect dany to the great empire of the dawn which is why he made the emperors names the same colors as the eyes of the people dany sees

  • @antemiuenteri
    @antemiuenteri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a blue flower growing in a !?WHAT?! of ice?

  • @7eddiii
    @7eddiii หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wonder if a flashback scene could show asshai in its prime during the great empire of the dawn its no coincidence dany has purple eyes just like the amethyst empress the last true ruler of the empire before the bloodstone emperor i think it would be really cool if some members of her family escaped the bloodstone emperor and founded valyria plus i really dont believe valyrians created or found dragons i think they always had them but a lot of info got lost during the long night so the valyrians left after that basically had to rediscover it plus dragons are basically guaranteed to be created from wyverns and fire wyrms but the valyrians had dragons before colonizing sothoryos so someone went there and brought back some wyverns that we dont know about also now that i think of it do we hear anything about valyria and the long night maybe we havent because they didnt exist as their own people until after it okay i just did some research on this theory and im now 100% convinced its correct especially with euron probably representing the bloodstone emperor with his red eye

  • @lonemotheomatshaba9640
    @lonemotheomatshaba9640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gotham city in ASOIAF

  • @heartsmyfaceforever8140
    @heartsmyfaceforever8140 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do they mean children of the forest?

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:14 "In the world of ASOIAF*"
    "A Game of Thrones" is the first book, and "Game of Thrones," is the TV 'adaptation'

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They made books based on the show??

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CrusaderChris I owe you an apology. I was being condescending but now that I'm deeper into the video, it's obvious you have extensive knowledge of the entire series. Thanks for uploading

  • @user-kh6vx9yf9v
    @user-kh6vx9yf9v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm convinced this is science fiction

  • @user-hz4tz3iw7z
    @user-hz4tz3iw7z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think there is a South Pole in planetos that north of the land of always winter is Asshia.

  • @l.4165
    @l.4165 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There are no children in asshai

  • @davidwindell
    @davidwindell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This wouldn’t be the first time that a player who isn’t quite ready is drafted early. I am kinda with Lebron on this one, as Bronny has the tools to be an effective NBA guard.

    • @jimihendrix23456
      @jimihendrix23456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This comment was posted on the wrong video. There's a Bronn in ASOIAF, but not Le Bron.

  • @Imperfect-Views
    @Imperfect-Views 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are you no longer on Odysee?

  • @underdaseachimfaraa
    @underdaseachimfaraa 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Emilia sooooooooo beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jademoon7938
    @jademoon7938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quaithe says you have to go back to go forward so saying she’s going back to the Dothraki means she’s not going to Asshai makes no sense. That’s how she’ll get there then. Braavos is north and Tyrosh is south. Going north to go south. I think you’re missing your own points.

  • @6tiple6ix6afia
    @6tiple6ix6afia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah yes my two favorite things! Ass (my wife's) and Nihongo (wife's language)

  • @nidohime6233
    @nidohime6233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless magic portals become a thing in ASoIaF I don't think Daenerys would reach Asshai, at least not for a while.

  • @QueenDany69
    @QueenDany69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Asshai *_i wanna go_*

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tend to like books that are written in that kind of like spontaneous way. as long as it doesn't come across as completely random. and I haven't read these but the show was obviously really random but that's not his fault
    But the like quintessential example of this is the Disney trilogy of Star wars was literally just random events. stuff that had no impact on the characters or the overall story. you could swap any of them and they wouldn't matter that you had changed them chronologically because the stuff that happens during them is basically irrelevant.
    Danny and slaver's Bay is kind of like that. it was my least favorite part since it it's bad, but in the sense that it's like you can tell that it's filler

  • @Mosbyvlg
    @Mosbyvlg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this style of editing look oddly familiar

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea I’m not really subtle about my alt shift x inspiration

  • @joshuabryant9845
    @joshuabryant9845 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perhaps she needs to go west to go east.

  • @nerdelf3704
    @nerdelf3704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 HBO adaptations

  • @AncientRylanor69
    @AncientRylanor69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    m

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx1690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if Jon will have to be sacrificed and give himself to the others to be their night king in exchange for leaving Westeros and freeing world from Always Winter and Dany will commit suicide or die giving birth to a baby and because she will love Jon or he will love her she will follow him as corpse Queen or Night Queen and they will be together in lands of Always Winter even tho they both will be dead .

    • @Aydan2108
      @Aydan2108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Dany will commit suicide or die giving birth to a baby", girl be fr 💀

    • @queenxx1690
      @queenxx1690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Aydan2108 yes her whole arc is about being mother so probably she will die giving birth

    • @Aydan2108
      @Aydan2108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@queenxx1690 that's the worst possible ending for her, to end such a Phenomenal character by "cHiLd BiRtH" .

    • @fuckoffgoogle1657
      @fuckoffgoogle1657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The logistics to get to this are hard to work out. Dany and Jon are thousands of miles apart. I’m struggling to believe in 2 books they’ll manage to ever meet at this rate, they are actual years of travel apart and winter has already begun. Even if she flies she’s a year or half a year out at best if I’m being generous. That’s if she leaves the army behind and just ditches them. With an army of several thousands? No idea, could take more than a year to march through, get on boats, sail west, march north. Because the sea is so awful in the far north east of Westeros idk how any of this can work. Logistics and shit. It’s a mess.

    • @fuckoffgoogle1657
      @fuckoffgoogle1657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m more inclined she will give her life to end the long night. Nissa nissa style.

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ass? Hiiiiiiiiii