357 Magnum S&W 4 inch barrel. Paid $110 dollars at the Naval exchange in Guam in 1968. Dead center shooter. Loved it when I was in my 30's. At 87 it weighs 5 pounds more than it did when I was 30 and kicks like a mule. Still take it out for a few rounds several times a year. My EDC is a Ruger LCR 38 special +P, fits in my pocket without pulling my britches down.
Check out, try shooting the LCR in 9mm? MUCH greater selection of premium performance defensive ammo, the 9mm LCR is built on the .357-version frame, and you'll see better ballistics from the 9mm rounds carried by today's law enforcement agencies. Velocities are every bit comparable to 3-inch semi-auto velocities. #FoodForThought
Well for my favorite the snubby's, the choice for 2 was apparent. Exposed hammer for single-action light trigger and concealed hammer for ease of ccw use. 😎
Ironically enough, in certain applications a powerful revolver can actually serve as a better offensive firearm than a semiautomatic handgun in a smaller chambering. Especially when it's a revolver in at least .357 up to .44 Mag with a 3-4" barrel, an optic and speedloaders. The whole package of, let's say a 4" .357 Mag with a red dot and a belt full of speed loaders, is a gun that's less adapted for pure defensive work and turns into something that takes on more of an offensive function. French GIGN operators have largely transitioned to Glocks and HKs by now, but each squad still keeps their Manhurin revolvers on hand, and maintains their ability to use them as they're the superior option to anything else in tight spaces full of bad guys. For defensive use, history has proven with countless examples that a small-framed revolver in .38 is just the ticket for most people in most situations. There are objectively better options for civilians who can't spend much time training, but the advantage to a small revolver is that it's as simple as point and pull.
no they aint. take the side plate off and SEE how easy it is to clean. Drop it in a granary full of dusty soybeans or corn, or in sand and SEE how reiliable it AINT. Get some salt spray in the action and see how easy it is to clean out the salt residue. Your idea of "mastery" is obviously VERY low grade, cause everyone finds it MUCH easier to do well at almost everythingwith cocked and locked SA autos than with DA revolvers. and no, carry revolvers AINT more powerful than the 10mm or the .460 Rowland.
@@teacopem of course it is, if you load it right. Repeat hits come twice as fast as with the .44. every year in the US, 800,000 people are dog bitten badly enough to seek medical attention, as many more are hurt by men. Know how many are attacked by bears? 50. or so. :-) it's a joke, man. More people die from lightning strikes or bug stings than from bear attacks. it's a joke. Every deer hunter knows of cases where an unadrenalized deer ran off after a chest hit with a load that has 2-3 x the power of a 44 mag. ONLY brain hits will reliably stop a bear charge and you wont get more than one try at it with the .44 or worse, the .454 Casull, At the same distances/speed of attack, with the right ammo, you can get 3 such tries with the 10mm, and it's MUCH more useful vs dogs and men than the .44, too. along with costing less and being MUCH easier to CCW
youre idea of "mastery' is very, very low DA is very hard to use as quickly as an SA auto and get hits, at more than powder burniing ranges, cocking the hammer for each shot is very, very slwo
IMO, the most persuasive argument for a revolver is versatility. However good a semiauto may be for urban self-defense, it is necessarily limited to a relatively narrow range of ammunition. On the other hand, a .357 magnum will function reliably with everything from snake shot to rounds suitable for mountain lions and black bears. It's as close to a do-everything firearm as you can find. If I could have only one handgun, it would be a medium-frame .357 magnum revolver with a 3" or 4" barrel.
I don’t know anyone who has lost a self-defense encounter because they didn’t have 15 rounds. It’s a myth that only works in theoretical training, but in real life, confrontations are resolved with 6 shots. If you have to reload, you need tactical training. But I think it will be some time before Hollywood movie publicity addresses this issue.
Well fkn said. Revolvers have major limitations in real gunfights with other armed assailants. Mainly ammunition capacity and reload speed. But in other situations like bear country and other big predator defense, the one shot stopping power of .357 and .44 magnum is unmatched. A +p load of heavy .357 is usually 1500 to 1700 fps out of a duty sized barrel and with manageable recoil produces 500 to 800 ft lbs. To put that into perspective, a full size 9 mm with very hot ammo can only hope to achieve 500 ft lbs. Not to mention, one handed firing is guaranteed to cycle the next round in a revolver, but in a semiauto there is high probability that under stress, with one handed firing, the gun will jam.
@@chuckboy9372 Revolvers don't necessarily give up much to semis in civilian self-defense situations, either. The number of citizen-involved shootings which exceed 6 shots by the good guy is extremely small. I learned on revolvers and carried one on the streets as a police officer and I'm pretty good with it. I don't typically carry a revolver now, but I wouldn't feel completely screwed if that's what I had when the fight started.
My 30 year career began in ‘68 & the agency issued .38 revolver saved my life three times, reloading under fire in a 1974 gunfight. The EDC in retirement is a 340PD loaded w/110 grain +P for optimal recoil control.
Yes sir. I carried a full size 1911 for years but now I carry a m&p shield in 9mm. Lighter and I can get 8 rounds of 124 grain 9mm. I see no need in punishing myself for no real benefit of carrying a heavy full size gun.
@@Brett235 yoou're right about that. I use a 16 oz Sig P938 in a front pants pocket holster. Liberty Arms 50 gr 9mm, 3" barrel, is 2000 fps solid copper hp, 450 ft lbs, no more recoil than a hot 380.
What really got me into revolvers is that when it comes to carry, I have a couple beliefs. One is that your gun should be ready to fire when you draw it and pull the trigger. If you aren't comfortable with carrying a gun thats loaded, then you shouldn't carry it at all. When it comes to the purposes, you are carrying, which is self defense. You are already going to be way behind in the fact that the threat you are facing likely already has their weapon out and ready to go.. Adding any extra steps to that makes no sense.. But at the same time, I don't feel comfortable carrying a striker fired pistol in my pocket with it's light trigger pull. A revolver to me is a good compromise when it comes to readiness and safety.
My edc for the last 24years has been a charter arms undercover 38special that I inherited from my great grandfather and it was his back up duty weapon for almost 30 years before that 😊! Loaded with +p swchp 158gr and +p 158gr fnfmj has served me well!!
I bought one new the day I got my badge back in 1987. It was my BU/OD gun my first few years until I switched to an agency that didn't include it on their "approved" list. I still have it. My dad, with whom I was not in contact back then, also had one. It became mine in 2010 when he died, which was about 12 years after we had re-established contact. His was made in 1966, which (of course) is my birth year. I also have a 1985-vintage one in stainless I found in a gun shop a few years back. I hadn't known they were even made in stainless back then. That one is my tightest-locking revolver in my accumulation, which includes three Smith and Wesson models. I also have an old Undercoverette ("ladies' model") in .32SWL that I picked up last year. Made in around 1970-1971, it's a pretty and dainty little thing. Yeah, I like the old Charter products.
@Just1American1966 thanks for that. I have heard many retired sheriff/police say nothing but good things. I was fortunate enough to know my great grandfather that I inherited mine from and I know for a 💯 he would not have had it as his backup/nor gave it to me knowing I would be using it! It has served me well over the 24years ( 25 in march) have had to put down a couple of aggressive dogs and a rabid coyote/fox situation and to back someone off me trying to run me off the road one night! I have other guns I take when I head to ATL or going camping. But never felt under gunned with the 38special undercover!! Right now I'm trying to decide between a 357 or 327 mag. Leaning towards 357,but ain't decide yet!! Lol 🤙💯☮️🤘
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116 The .357 will serve you better. Ammunition in that loading and in .38 Special are easier to come by than that in .327 and the other loads a .327-chambered gun can shoot. My bedside revolvers are loaded with a .38 Special 125-grain SJHP +P round, though two of them are chambered in .357 Magnum (one of those, a Ruger Police Service Six, was my dad's sidearm during a stint he did as a rural Colorado deputy). When I'm up in Appalachia hiking in black bear country, I carry either that Ruger or my Uberti/Taylor's "Smoke Wagon" loaded with a 158-grain .357 Magnum JSP round.
@Just1American1966 yea,that's kinda my overall feeling as well. I like 327,but 357, and its options just seem best for me.😊 Plus I like the 357 in a companion rifle very very much!!🔥 😊🤘💯☮️
I too like revolvers. My EDC is a S&W airweight 38 snub. At 81yrs & a Vietnam Vet the Only Semiauto I own is a 1911 45ACP. All my other 6:01 revolvers are Col
my dad was a police officer who used revolver for most of its time in service. about 3 yrs before retirement, the dept issued him a 9mm jericho. he said he still wants a revolver that he believes is zero failure gun. so he bought a snub nose revolver and carried it with the jericho....LOL
@@shadowcastrehave you actually watched ballistic tests between the 357 and the 10mm? The 10 blows the 357 away in both wound channel and fps. I have revolvers but I carry a 40 S&W with 200 gr flatnose ammo and it pars with the 357 in penetration but the wound channel is bigger with the 40 when using HST hollow points. And according to FBI statistics, both the 40 and the 357 have a 96% one stop stopping power. So don't be too quick on saying the 10mm is not enough for grizzlies, especially when it's the favored pistol of choice among Alaska outdoorsmen and women and their brown bears are bigger than the lower 48 grizzlies!
@@nwyetiphotography It looks like I have to burst your bubble... - I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally youtubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing! - Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation. - Any information from the fbi should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to humans... Not Bears. - If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that. - Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense. - 10mm is for social work... - 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still. - 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1. Have a nice day...
@@nwyetiphotography It looks like I have to burst your bubble... - I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally You tubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing! - Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation. - Any information from the f b i should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to humans... Not Bears. - If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that. - Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense. - 10mm is for social work... - 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still. - 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1. Have a nice day...
@@nwyetiphotography It looks like I have to burst your bubble... - I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally youtubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing! - Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation. - Any information from the f b i should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to 2 legged critters... Not Bears. - If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that. - Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense. - 10mm is for social work... - 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still. - 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1. Have a nice day
New subscriber, thank you for this video!!! With my lifestyle, working from home and in the house or around my neighborhood most of the time, a snub nose revolver is my edc. I do purchase my revolvers so that they are chambered in 357 but carry the 38+p the majority of the time. When going hiking, fishing etc, and going into areas where I may encounter a four legged threat, I will carry loaded with 357's. It's great to have that option!!!
I've always had a thing for stainless steel S&W revolvers. I own a few. If I had to choose just one handgun I think that the model 686+ in a 3inch barrel is the ticket. Also revolvers ain't cheap anymore. You get what you pay for
I've loved revolvers since my childhood, and have owned a 6-inch Python (wish I had it back), S&W 640 3-inch (custom ordered), S&W shrouded .38, Ruger 6-inch Security Six, S&W .460 XVR 10.5-inch, Ruger LCR 9mm, Rossi RP63, and a S&W Model 69 .44 mag in the 5-inch round butt version. I'm sure I need 5 or 6 more revolvers - I'm working on it! ALL THAT to say: I EDC an LCR 9mm snubby in my front pocket as the quickest-to-deploy, and back it up with a Sig 365 with 17-rd spare mag, or my XDm with a spare mag... sharing ammo is important in this strategy.
Started out in 93 with a Sig 228, and after 4 more Sigs, I had to have some revolvers....love em. I say that they feel like a stick shift compared to an automatic transmission...more engaging.
I am biased because I love revolvers, but great video and great points made. I am teaching my nephew to shoot and have told him if he can master the revolver he will be able to shoot anything well. I was a teen in the1980's when every gun magazine had the "revolver vs semiauto" showdown. Well we know how that turned out but the revolver is still iconic. I have a model 19 just like yours and it is one of my favorite guns.
Wheel guns are not a handicap against two legged predators, they have been used effectively for over a century and a half for that very purpose. Besides, too many semi-auto gurus are fixated on the mass of brass in the air as opposed to the more relevant amount of lead in the target! The type and weight of projectiles available for any given revolver caliber offers a plethora of possibilities regarding stopping power/penetration concerns and exigencies. Ergo: .357 mag. from 95 gr. up to 180 gr., quite a few steel rams have been knocked over at 200m using bullets of 158 to 180gr., using a 6 in or better barrel length. My 6 in. Dan Wesson in .357 mag has done this loads of times, admittedly my .44 mag does it more consistently/reliably in my Dan Wesson, but if you do your part, the cartridge revolver combo will do its part and deliver the goods. In all honesty, with what amounts to a logical approach to any dilema, one does not pick a handgun in any defencive scenario as a first choice option. Be it for two or four legged predators, you want the power and accuracy of a long gun should you have the option in any life and death scenario. I have carried both semi-autos and revolvers in sticky situations, in urban settings, it matters less but, in the wilds, the wheelgun gets the nod! ( My first handguns were a custom Browning High-Power and a Charter Arms Police Bulldog 4'' in 38 spl. purchased together back in the 1970s )
Spot on! I have two of each but since I’ve began shooting (1975) I’ve had the privilege of shooting many weapons (not including my military service time). For revolvers I’m a S&W guy (though my first revolver was a Ruger .22 S/A convertible). My only gripe (as many will attest to) is that stupid side lock on the newer Smith revolvers. It just takes away from the cool aesthetics of the gun. Other than that, they are well made but getting pricey. I carry speed loaders since a 6-shooter is all you can chamber. I currently have a Smith 686 plus in 3” so I get 7 shots. I’ve had two different Smith 8-shooters (N-Frames) and they are a beast to carry! lol I’m mainly a .357 guy though I’ve owned a Model 29 chambered in .44 mag. It comes down to many factors, and today ammo is expensive, so I keep my revolvers all in .357 and buy bulk. .357 ammo is very, very versatile and still reasonably priced. We can talk ballistics all day so I won’t go there, but he’s right, it couldn’t hurt to have a few revolvers around. You can go to practically any shooting range and rent any revolver .
First. I am historically a proponent of the Browning design (Government Model or - rather sloppily - '1911'). The design is reliable, the .45 ACP round is quite useful and recoil is not abusive. However, I have taken to carrying a revolver. it is a short barreled S&W K frame (Mod 10) using +p rounds. I find it much easier to conceal and manipulate (using the 'comfort station', putting it in the lockbox when visiting the hospital or county court house, storing at home and so forth) than the bigger and heavier Government Model. I find double action more accurate than single action when shooting quickly. I have a copy of "Secrets of Double Action Shooting" by Bob Nichols. (Published in 1950 as I recall.) Listening intently. I have a 2.5 inch M19. I like it, but find the adjustable sights to be a bit big and a snag danger. The short cartridge ejection irritates me as well. I rather like the four inch version as a belt gun. Yet more and more I realize the concept of a quick reload is valuable only in the various forms of '(im) practical pistol' competition. In reality, I have realized if I have fired more than four rounds and not solved the immediate problem, I have far greater need of an undertaker or wound specialist than more ammunition. 10mm Auto is a very powerful round. The main problem it has is it is neither fish nor fowl. In a defense handgun, it has too much recoil for most people and as a large game cartridge, it is borderline weak. The .40 S&W round does well for defensive use with moderate recoil. The main problem with the .40 is the competition for sales with the 9x19mm cartridge which seems to be more popular. (Not better, more popular.)
My first revolver experience was decades ago with a S&W model 10, and shortly after a 1911. I still carry a revolver about 25% of the time,and something about shooting them is almost cathartic.
Excellent points brother. With practice, you can't go wrong with a revolver. If you don't mind the weight, I recommend the Smith and Wesson 627 Pro 8 rounds of 357 mag is amazing!
When you’re shooting double action and you know you only have ~ six rounds, you’ll tend to shoot fewer rounds, more carefully. That’s important when every bullet that leaves your gun is going to stop somewhere with your name on it.
Never in a million years though I would like revolvers. Now I own the big 3 Colt Python, S&W 586 no dash, Ruger Security Six No warning banner. I want to give all the new versions a try as well. I think really what it boils down to is I enjoy steel framed pistols. Because pistols like the M9 and the CZ75 at well as the Browning high power and 1911 are also in my collection. As far as plastic fantastics I own a few of those as well but they are essentially the same thing. Not to much variation among them.
As a lefty... If you are a lefty and do any driving, I strongly recommend a revolver in a right-handed cross-draw holster. Just remember to train with your right hand as intended 👍
Love my model 17 bought in the early 80’s , for fun now I’m into cartridge conversion revolvers 1851,1858 and 1860 in 38 spl and 45 colt and carry s&w j frame
Something about shooting .357 at the range, you really know youve got something, but the recoil is still managable. Im a big of pocket carry in general, simply because its most convenient and comfortable and I like the SW J frames in .38 special. If Im carrying on my hip Ive got a Taurus 627, 4 inch and I never feel outgunned with 7 rounds of .357.
I have always had revolvers. I do have some simi autos but by far my revolvers deliver the most stopping power. As I have gotten older I find myself carrying my revolvers more.
The 10mm has been successfully used in the past two years stop multiple brown bear attacks in Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming. It is the number one choice of Alaskan hunting guides for bear defense. Check out Chuk’s Outdoor Adventures.
mrgman1326 10mm is a capable caliber but it is the bare minimum for big critter self defense... there is alot of hype that surrounds it. Chuke talks about this on his channel even though he is a fan of the 10mm.
@ you make my case. If the minimum were not enough, it would not be the minimum. Accuracy trumps power. The 10mm affords the best and most chances to make accurate hits with sufficient power. This year alone real life is the proof of the 10mm theory.
@@mrgman1326 As in most things, "the bare minimum" is rarely good enough. It may allow you to get by, maybe not, but it doesn't mean it's a good or even the best choice. "Accuracy trumps power" That's interesting... Power/energy/concussion is the only thing you'll have control over in a bear attack. The odds of getting off more than 1 or 2 shots accurately at a charging bear... Is slim to none with any type firearm. 12 ga is best... In the grand scheme of things, The number of 10mm bear defense encounters is comparatively small... It hasn't proven anything! There are better choices available.
Hi, thank you for the video. I am a 48 years old 1911 guy, but since 6 months the idea to own a revolver just popped from nowhere. I will go with a French Manurhin or a korth in 357.
The term “fudd” doesn’t mean what you think it means. It isn’t referring to older style guns, it refers to people who are okay with people violating our second amendment rights.
So I had a model 19 just like yours. I picked it up used in the early eighties. Loved that gun and hate that I got rid of it back when I was getting a sig 228 when they first came around and I thought they were cool. Anyway I wanted the 19 in a 4 inch until..... to live and die in la awesome movie. William Peterson was a secret service guy and he made that 19 look so badass. I was done for. Anyway I envy you for still having one in the fed length. Love your company and your videos can't wait to save enough for an alchemy. Tell Eli I said hi. Have a good holiday
I have owned revolvers since I started carrying as a civilian in 1980. Charter Arms Undercover. 38 spl. Then Ruger Security-six, 2.75 inch barrel .357mag. ..then Ruger Security-six, 4 inch barrel duty revolver. Then a S&W mod 19 4 in. Barrel .357mag. And I have semi autos also. But my revolvers just keep calling my name..
My grandfather would make wax bullets for his revolvers so us boys could target practice in the alley behind his house, we eventuallywould go on to shoot them in competitions, to this day outta all the auto loaders I own I often more than not pack a model a wheel gun, usually either a model 15-3 combat masterpiece stoked with FBI load or a police service six with a 2 3/4 inch barrel stoked with 158 magnums.
Love revolvers. Learned on Auto loaders, first guns I shot were auto loaders, but the first pistol I bought, was an 1873 model Colt SA in 45 Colt. Still have it, still shoot it. Have two in that pattern, now, and a reproduction Schofield in the same calibre, and of course, my S&Ws. The 19 is a particular Favorite. Mine has the 5" barrel, its from the first year of production, got combat grips on it. Shoots wonderfully, but not as nice a trigger as the Model 10. Revolvers are just darn FUN, and reliable!
I am a Tokarev guy. Specifically Zastava. I carry a M70AA and have my surplus M57 in my truck. I also carry wheel guns. They are more of the budget option, but i still love them none the less. I am a wierdo when it comes to my selection, but i love the simplicity of a Tokarev over the 1911. The Tokarev you can argue was the glock of World War 2 service weapons. It has fewer parts than the 1911. Yet it is single action, has a browning action, but is slimmer. That's specially the reason i carry a full size M70AA. One it's in 9mm. Two it's got a full sized slide. One can argue that an M88A is smaller. I like having the option of the larger slide and extra round. I usually carry revolvers as a backup or a bag gun. I understand i may get flak, but i am 40 and have back problems from my service in the Marines. Well, revolvers are the best purse gun because it won't jam. If you buy a cheap ccw pack, you can have a good setup that's not expensive just in case you need to shoot through the bag.
I've always liked revolvers. the real issue has always been price for what they are. even the LE trade ins are insane prices are just unreasonable. I got my 44mag for 400 though. I keep my eye out.
Where did you get your chest holster in the beginning clips? I'm looking for a chest holster for my S&W Model 327 with 5" barrel. Also I do agree with the .357 vs 10mm comment. The ballistic testing shows .357 hard cast having more penetration than its Buffalo Bore 10mm counterpart which is what you need for a bear caliber. It also helps that my revolver is an 8 shooter. The 10mm did have better wound channels though.
During the 1800s, a revolver was needed to overcome the obvious disadvantage of a single-shot sidearm. During the 1st-half of the 1900s, a revolver was needed since most of the world’s developed countries were using them for their military and police forces. Most ammunition being manufactured WERE FOR revolvers. During the latter-half of the 20th century, it was debatable whether revolvers were still needed in light of the foregoing trend of using the 9mm high-capacity “wündernine” pistols. Presently, there are DOZENS of semiautomatic pistols in the open market to choose from. Most are very good. A few are excellent. A small group are sub-marginal in design, aesthetics, AND functionality. Modern revolver manufacturers number about 8. The “Big 3” revolver makers - Colt, Ruger, and Smith & Wesson - concentrate on double-action models that typically range in caliber between .35 to .45. There appears to be three categories of double-action revolvers as follows. 1. Compact concealable models that typically chamber 5 rounds and are designed to be for self-defence and/or backup. 2. Large-frame models that chamber some of the most powerful cartridges ever developed. These are behemoths intended for protection against the largest 4-legged animals. 3. Large-frame models designed to chamber 9x33mmR (aka .357 Magnum) cartridges in their 7 OR 8 round cylinders. I frequently CARRY a few models in category 1. I frequently also WEAR two models in category 2 lieu of a semi-auto during winter months when I can conceal the large frame better. WHEN I WEAR a large revolver, I also carry a smaller semiauto so that when I run the “eightgun” dry, I don’t mistake the spare magazine for a revolver reload. Same goes for when I WEAR a large semiauto and a smaller revolver. For me, it’s NOT that I am compelled to “NEED” a revolver as much as that it has become so ingrained in my martial discipline that I no longer even give it a fleeting thought about its efficacy as a fighting sidearm.
I carry my S&W 640 3in all steel revolver. It is Magna-ported and a gem to shoot. In all deference to JMichelick, he is the best shooter around, but remember he heavily modifies the trigger and uses his special hand loads to set these records. He can still outshoot anyone with an OOB firearm.
Would you be open to doing a video discussing the Kimber DET-1? There's not a ton out there talking about it or discussing it in detail; things like it's guide rod length or which grip safety they used as pictures tend to not show the extended grip safety they reportedly used.
I’m looking forward to your video about the Spohr. I have a Spohr 284 and it’s absolutely amazing; as good as my Python is, the Spohr blows it out of the water.
Im a semi-auto pistol guy first and foremost, but I definitely like a few revolvers as well. That being said, mentioning Jerry Miculek is silly, because all of his revolvers are HIGHLY modified. ESPECIALLY with extremely light trigger jobs. So he is not the average guy that would be defending himself with a revolver and his revolvers are MOST DEFINITELY not the average revolvers used for self-defense.
Agree for the most part but with 10mm you can do anything you can do with a 357 but with a larger bullet and superior capacity. Same can be said for the 9mm vs 38 special. The gap that revolvers fill is in the non powerful/housewife calibers and the ultra high powered calbers north of 44mag.
Got a K6S 3” for edc and GP100 4” match champion for home. Next step is one of those nice Korth revolvers. Just gotta figure out how to network and sell one of my kidneys.
@ so I’ve never experienced a regular GP100, but I did a ton of research. What you get with the match champion versus the original gp100: 1. The hogue wood grips ($100 value alone) 2. The half lug of the barrel - some prefer it, some don’t. Supposedly it balances the 4” versions better. 3. Polished internals - I don’t know how this translates to performance, but supposedly it helps 4. The Novac sights - much better than the basic sights that the original gp100 comes with. Considering that the match champion was only about $100-120 more than the original GP100 in all the websites I’ve looked into, I’d say the wood grips and the sights alone are worth the extra money. The other stuff is just a bonus. The only reason why I would say it’s not worth it is if you know exactly what customizations you want to make.
G20 unreliable? Yeah ok 10mm not as strong as the 357 yeah ok 6 shot vs 15 +1 sure 10 mm 200gr hardcast was man for bears lol But I do agree everyone should have a revolver Let’s not forget the g21 in 460 rolwand is a thing of beauty and puts up 1000 foot pounds of energy
Sparks3k817 10mm at its heaviest loads is similar to the average 357mag. Capacity gives a false sense of security. 200 gr hard cast is promoted as bear capable to sell ammunition as the hype continues to surround the 10mm.
Definitely in your fudd era. 10mm out of a Glock or an fn is extremely reliable and proven against bear. Just get a revolver because they’re awesome. Failures do happen in revolvers and when they do they’re typically catastrophic.
At 70 I carry a S/W 442 with Plus p's.. I mostly carry my S/W 66..3"barrel round butt.. I do love a 1911.. I have owned many..I still carry my Springer TRP with some custom work..good winter carry gun.... A lesson..if you carry, always carry.. atbthe store my brother was in shopping at 0600.. there was a whack job chasing folks around with a machete'.. He was able to fend the guy off with his cart!!.. Now we both carry ALWAYS!!
Love the 2 1/2 inch 19 but they make rather poor pocket carry and I can’t see them cooperating with gym shorts or sweats. On the other hand, after winding up 33 years of LE, in reflection, a revolver was sufficient for everything I ever did. Actually, the Colt King Cobra or Viper 3 inch versions are intriguing, though an an alloy frame is better for pocket carry.
Everyone who carries a gun for self-defense should own at least one revolver for that purpose. A J frame in .38 Special or similar is not necessarily a bad choice, but know its limitations.
For years and years, armed professionals off duty carried snubnose 5 and 6 shot revolvers and trusted their lives to them. I know that was mostly in the days before high capacity semi autos came along but how much time is anyone going to have to shoot up a 15 to 17 round magazine? I think that in the real world where a real person would have to defend themself, a snub would do fine as long as the person carrying it practiced with it.
@TwoWeekCowboy Practice is definitely required, especially reloads. I came to my conclusion by way of an unfortunate, but thankfully not too serious accident. I was in a car accident many years ago, and my injuries left me unable to rack the slide on my semiautos. The only revolver I had was a 4" 1965 Colt Python, not something I really wanted to resort to for self-defense due to it being expensive to replace, and I didn't have a holster for it. I've since acquired a S&W 640.
Ok. You need a 70s vintage Clot Detective special , blue finish. Next a 4 inch S&W 19, paired with. 4 inch 22 model 19, older vintage not the new classic series. Next a 6 inch Colt Python 357 in blue , reissue version is decent and affordable, last a Colt SAA or replica in 357 . Then you can call yourself a revolver guy
357 Magnum S&W 4 inch barrel. Paid $110 dollars at the Naval exchange in Guam in 1968. Dead center shooter. Loved it when I was in my 30's. At 87 it weighs 5 pounds more than it did when I was 30 and kicks like a mule. Still take it out for a few rounds several times a year. My EDC is a Ruger LCR 38 special +P, fits in my pocket without pulling my britches down.
Check out, try shooting the LCR in 9mm? MUCH greater selection of premium performance defensive ammo, the 9mm LCR is built on the .357-version frame, and you'll see better ballistics from the 9mm rounds carried by today's law enforcement agencies. Velocities are every bit comparable to 3-inch semi-auto velocities.
#FoodForThought
You just don’t get it Joe
Being a gun guy but doesn't own at least one fine revolver is an eternal sin.
I’m 46 and just now getting into firearms. I’m starting with air soft and indeed, I too have one revolver for its purity, and “uniqueness” today.
Amen 🙏 👍👍👍🤠🤡
Then I’m an eternal sinner since I sold mine many years ago. 😊
not a gun guy but i have a revolver, i am saved!
@ Hell yes! 🤡
Having failed to come up with a single reason for needing a revolver I bought two 😂
Owning one revolver creates the need for a second. How else can you do a New York Reload?
Well for my favorite the snubby's, the choice for 2 was apparent. Exposed hammer for single-action light trigger and concealed hammer for ease of ccw use. 😎
Lol awesome.
A man of culture
With revolvers you don't leave cases behind.
yep, since you're too dumb and lazy to wear gloves, wipe down each round as you load your magazines.
Love the Ruger GP100! Solid and built like a tank.
yeah and you carry it as often as you carry a tank, too.
Have a SP101, no complaints. A smaller tank but still packs a punch.
I love it
Ironically enough, in certain applications a powerful revolver can actually serve as a better offensive firearm than a semiautomatic handgun in a smaller chambering. Especially when it's a revolver in at least .357 up to .44 Mag with a 3-4" barrel, an optic and speedloaders.
The whole package of, let's say a 4" .357 Mag with a red dot and a belt full of speed loaders, is a gun that's less adapted for pure defensive work and turns into something that takes on more of an offensive function. French GIGN operators have largely transitioned to Glocks and HKs by now, but each squad still keeps their Manhurin revolvers on hand, and maintains their ability to use them as they're the superior option to anything else in tight spaces full of bad guys.
For defensive use, history has proven with countless examples that a small-framed revolver in .38 is just the ticket for most people in most situations. There are objectively better options for civilians who can't spend much time training, but the advantage to a small revolver is that it's as simple as point and pull.
Which is why my 9mm LCR snubby revolver is an integral part of my EDC kit.
My first gun was model 15 smith and wesson. I bought it brand new for $140 out the door with a box of shells in 1977. Still have it.
That's incredible. I bought a model 15 well used for my K frame/old Smith collection 2 years ago for $459.00- Shoots great.
Great K frame .38 revolver. Great for both target shooting and combat revolver. Hence it’s original name: “Combat Masterpiece”
Back when you were given a box of shells when you made your purchase.
I wanna go back to the 70s
Wheelguns are reliable, intuitive, easy to master, easy to use, easy to clean, and are capable of higher power handgun cartridge deployment.
no they aint. take the side plate off and SEE how easy it is to clean. Drop it in a granary full of dusty soybeans or corn, or in sand and SEE how reiliable it AINT. Get some salt spray in the action and see how easy it is to clean out the salt residue. Your idea of "mastery" is obviously VERY low grade, cause everyone finds it MUCH easier to do well at almost everythingwith cocked and locked SA autos than with DA revolvers. and no, carry revolvers AINT more powerful than the 10mm or the .460 Rowland.
Agree
10mm > 44 magnum? Interesting @@EsyuDach
@@teacopem of course it is, if you load it right. Repeat hits come twice as fast as with the .44. every year in the US, 800,000 people are dog bitten badly enough to seek medical attention, as many more are hurt by men. Know how many are attacked by bears? 50. or so. :-) it's a joke, man. More people die from lightning strikes or bug stings than from bear attacks. it's a joke. Every deer hunter knows of cases where an unadrenalized deer ran off after a chest hit with a load that has 2-3 x the power of a 44 mag. ONLY brain hits will reliably stop a bear charge and you wont get more than one try at it with the .44 or worse, the .454 Casull, At the same distances/speed of attack, with the right ammo, you can get 3 such tries with the 10mm, and it's MUCH more useful vs dogs and men than the .44, too. along with costing less and being MUCH easier to CCW
youre idea of "mastery' is very, very low DA is very hard to use as quickly as an SA auto and get hits, at more than powder burniing ranges, cocking the hammer for each shot is very, very slwo
I just picked up my Colt python revolver. 100% Love it
Nice!
IMO, the most persuasive argument for a revolver is versatility. However good a semiauto may be for urban self-defense, it is necessarily limited to a relatively narrow range of ammunition. On the other hand, a .357 magnum will function reliably with everything from snake shot to rounds suitable for mountain lions and black bears. It's as close to a do-everything firearm as you can find. If I could have only one handgun, it would be a medium-frame .357 magnum revolver with a 3" or 4" barrel.
What I have in mind is a Colt King Cobra with a 3” barrel and fixed sights for an all around woods gun.
I don’t know anyone who has lost a self-defense encounter because they didn’t have 15 rounds. It’s a myth that only works in theoretical training, but in real life, confrontations are resolved with 6 shots. If you have to reload, you need tactical training. But I think it will be some time before Hollywood movie publicity addresses this issue.
Well fkn said. Revolvers have major limitations in real gunfights with other armed assailants. Mainly ammunition capacity and reload speed. But in other situations like bear country and other big predator defense, the one shot stopping power of .357 and .44 magnum is unmatched. A +p load of heavy .357 is usually 1500 to 1700 fps out of a duty sized barrel and with manageable recoil produces 500 to 800 ft lbs. To put that into perspective, a full size 9 mm with very hot ammo can only hope to achieve 500 ft lbs. Not to mention, one handed firing is guaranteed to cycle the next round in a revolver, but in a semiauto there is high probability that under stress, with one handed firing, the gun will jam.
@@chuckboy9372 Revolvers don't necessarily give up much to semis in civilian self-defense situations, either. The number of citizen-involved shootings which exceed 6 shots by the good guy is extremely small. I learned on revolvers and carried one on the streets as a police officer and I'm pretty good with it. I don't typically carry a revolver now, but I wouldn't feel completely screwed if that's what I had when the fight started.
@@otumminelli1986 Miami FBI Shootout?
My 30 year career began in ‘68 & the agency issued .38 revolver saved my life three times, reloading under fire in a 1974 gunfight. The EDC in retirement is a 340PD loaded w/110 grain +P for optimal recoil control.
Yes sir. I carried a full size 1911 for years but now I carry a m&p shield in 9mm. Lighter and I can get 8 rounds of 124 grain 9mm. I see no need in punishing myself for no real benefit of carrying a heavy full size gun.
that doesn't mean that an autopistol wouldn't have done BETTER.
@@EsyuDach A gun that holds more ammo, like an auto loader, is better tool but I had to fight w/what I was issued by our PD.
@@Brett235 yoou're right about that. I use a 16 oz Sig P938 in a front pants pocket holster. Liberty Arms 50 gr 9mm, 3" barrel, is 2000 fps solid copper hp, 450 ft lbs, no more recoil than a hot 380.
Picking up a 686 this week. First wheel gun!
Hell yes!!!
What really got me into revolvers is that when it comes to carry, I have a couple beliefs. One is that your gun should be ready to fire when you draw it and pull the trigger. If you aren't comfortable with carrying a gun thats loaded, then you shouldn't carry it at all. When it comes to the purposes, you are carrying, which is self defense. You are already going to be way behind in the fact that the threat you are facing likely already has their weapon out and ready to go.. Adding any extra steps to that makes no sense.. But at the same time, I don't feel comfortable carrying a striker fired pistol in my pocket with it's light trigger pull. A revolver to me is a good compromise when it comes to readiness and safety.
get a ruger DA. the trigger pull is NOT light. Problem solved.
I carry cocked and locked but still think this is true for revolvers
DA autopistol, I mean
Carry is a S&W 442 and also have a couple of 686+'s in 3" and 4" barrels.
My edc for the last 24years has been a charter arms undercover 38special that I inherited from my great grandfather and it was his back up duty weapon for almost 30 years before that 😊!
Loaded with +p swchp 158gr and +p 158gr fnfmj has served me well!!
I bought one new the day I got my badge back in 1987. It was my BU/OD gun my first few years until I switched to an agency that didn't include it on their "approved" list. I still have it.
My dad, with whom I was not in contact back then, also had one. It became mine in 2010 when he died, which was about 12 years after we had re-established contact. His was made in 1966, which (of course) is my birth year.
I also have a 1985-vintage one in stainless I found in a gun shop a few years back. I hadn't known they were even made in stainless back then. That one is my tightest-locking revolver in my accumulation, which includes three Smith and Wesson models.
I also have an old Undercoverette ("ladies' model") in .32SWL that I picked up last year. Made in around 1970-1971, it's a pretty and dainty little thing.
Yeah, I like the old Charter products.
@Just1American1966 thanks for that.
I have heard many retired sheriff/police say nothing but good things. I was fortunate enough to know my great grandfather that I inherited mine from and I know for a 💯 he would not have had it as his backup/nor gave it to me knowing I would be using it! It has served me well over the 24years ( 25 in march) have had to put down a couple of aggressive dogs and a rabid coyote/fox situation and to back someone off me trying to run me off the road one night!
I have other guns I take when I head to ATL or going camping.
But never felt under gunned with the 38special undercover!!
Right now I'm trying to decide between a 357 or 327 mag.
Leaning towards 357,but ain't decide yet!! Lol
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Snubnose is the perfect 10 yard defender. Guns become famous because of their track record alone.
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116
The .357 will serve you better. Ammunition in that loading and in .38 Special are easier to come by than that in .327 and the other loads a .327-chambered gun can shoot.
My bedside revolvers are loaded with a .38 Special 125-grain SJHP +P round, though two of them are chambered in .357 Magnum (one of those, a Ruger Police Service Six, was my dad's sidearm during a stint he did as a rural Colorado deputy).
When I'm up in Appalachia hiking in black bear country, I carry either that Ruger or my Uberti/Taylor's "Smoke Wagon" loaded with a 158-grain .357 Magnum JSP round.
@Just1American1966 yea,that's kinda my overall feeling as well. I like 327,but 357, and its options just seem best for me.😊
Plus I like the 357 in a companion rifle very very much!!🔥
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I too like revolvers. My EDC is a S&W airweight 38 snub. At 81yrs & a Vietnam Vet the Only Semiauto I own is a 1911 45ACP. All my other 6:01 revolvers are Col
Revolvers are just more fun at the range as well
my dad was a police officer who used revolver for most of its time in service. about 3 yrs before retirement, the dept issued him a 9mm jericho. he said he still wants a revolver that he believes is zero failure gun. so he bought a snub nose revolver and carried it with the jericho....LOL
Wow what agency was he working for???? I didn’t know Jerico’s were a police issue side arm
@@Johnny-jr2lq in the philippines, police dept
I've circled back around to the faithful steel-wheel a few times, and that's where I am now.
3:49 10mm has a proven record on G bears, as does many other cartridges. If your gun doesn’t work that’s one issue, but it’s not a cartridge problem.
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10mm is a capable caliber but it is the bare minimum for big critter self defense... there is alot of hype that surrounds it...
@@shadowcastrehave you actually watched ballistic tests between the 357 and the 10mm? The 10 blows the 357 away in both wound channel and fps. I have revolvers but I carry a 40 S&W with 200 gr flatnose ammo and it pars with the 357 in penetration but the wound channel is bigger with the 40 when using HST hollow points. And according to FBI statistics, both the 40 and the 357 have a 96% one stop stopping power. So don't be too quick on saying the 10mm is not enough for grizzlies, especially when it's the favored pistol of choice among Alaska outdoorsmen and women and their brown bears are bigger than the lower 48 grizzlies!
@@nwyetiphotography
It looks like I have to burst your bubble...
- I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally youtubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing!
- Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation.
- Any information from the fbi should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to humans... Not Bears.
- If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that.
- Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense.
- 10mm is for social work...
- 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still.
- 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1.
Have a nice day...
@@nwyetiphotography
It looks like I have to burst your bubble...
- I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally You tubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing!
- Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation.
- Any information from the f b i should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to humans... Not Bears.
- If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that.
- Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense.
- 10mm is for social work...
- 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still.
- 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1.
Have a nice day...
@@nwyetiphotography
It looks like I have to burst your bubble...
- I've seen plenty of the ballistics gel tests you mentioned. It's generally youtubers having a good day shooting but have no clue what they are doing in regards to any real results. It means nothing!
- Official proper tests are done with calibrated, 10% natural or synthetic virgin gelatin. The only actual reliable relevant results are penetration, expansion, and retained bullet weight. Wound channel and fps are not part of the equation.
- Any information from the f b i should be taken with a grain of salt and "one stop power" refers to 2 legged critters... Not Bears.
- If you choose to carry a 40 s&w with hollow points in Grizz country... Good luck with that.
- Quick or not, it needs to be said... 10mm is a capable caliber but it's been flying way to close to the sun recently and it won't be long before it falls back to earth with a harsh dose of reality. It Is the bare minimum for Grizzly defense.
- 10mm is for social work...
- 357 Mag is a more versatile, powerful cartridge than 10mm will ever be... I would go bigger still.
- 10mm is Not the preferred/favored pistol choice in Alaska. It's the 44 Mag with a 12 Ga pump as number 1.
Have a nice day
I love all 7 of my revolvers hold them close to my heart
New subscriber, thank you for this video!!! With my lifestyle, working from home and in the house or around my neighborhood most of the time, a snub nose revolver is my edc. I do purchase my revolvers so that they are chambered in 357 but carry the 38+p the majority of the time. When going hiking, fishing etc, and going into areas where I may encounter a four legged threat, I will carry loaded with 357's. It's great to have that option!!!
They are still the best❤.
I've always had a thing for stainless steel S&W revolvers. I own a few. If I had to choose just one handgun I think that the model 686+ in a 3inch barrel is the ticket. Also revolvers ain't cheap anymore. You get what you pay for
I've loved revolvers since my childhood, and have owned a 6-inch Python (wish I had it back),
S&W 640 3-inch (custom ordered),
S&W shrouded .38,
Ruger 6-inch Security Six,
S&W .460 XVR 10.5-inch,
Ruger LCR 9mm,
Rossi RP63,
and a S&W Model 69 .44 mag in the 5-inch round butt version.
I'm sure I need 5 or 6 more revolvers - I'm working on it!
ALL THAT to say:
I EDC an LCR 9mm snubby in my front pocket as the quickest-to-deploy, and back it up with a Sig 365 with 17-rd spare mag, or my XDm with a spare mag... sharing ammo is important in this strategy.
Started out in 93 with a Sig 228, and after 4 more Sigs, I had to have some revolvers....love em. I say that they feel like a stick shift compared to an automatic transmission...more engaging.
I love my SA revolvers !
I purchased my first revolver (.357 Magnum) six years ago. I plan on buying a Single Action revolver in .45 Colt, sometime in the beginning of 2025.
I am biased because I love revolvers, but great video and great points made. I am teaching my nephew to shoot and have told him if he can master the revolver he will be able to shoot anything well. I was a teen in the1980's when every gun magazine had the "revolver vs semiauto" showdown. Well we know how that turned out but the revolver is still iconic. I have a model 19 just like yours and it is one of my favorite guns.
My ccw of choice is a gp100 in a Stealth Gear IWB holster and fit my body very well. 2 strips for reloads just in case.
I already have a few Revolvers and yet I'm still watching this video
Get more!
@defconcreative best advice 💯
Revolvers are WAY more reliable, and powerful.
if i could reload revolver as fast as miculek, all my guns will be revolvers
Wouldn’t we all
Wheel guns are not a handicap against two legged predators, they have been used effectively for over a century and a half for that very purpose.
Besides, too many semi-auto gurus are fixated on the mass of brass in the air as opposed to the more relevant amount of lead in the target!
The type and weight of projectiles available for any given revolver caliber offers a plethora of possibilities regarding stopping power/penetration
concerns and exigencies. Ergo: .357 mag. from 95 gr. up to 180 gr., quite a few steel rams have been knocked over at 200m using bullets of
158 to 180gr., using a 6 in or better barrel length. My 6 in. Dan Wesson in .357 mag has done this loads of times, admittedly my .44 mag does it
more consistently/reliably in my Dan Wesson, but if you do your part, the cartridge revolver combo will do its part and deliver the goods.
In all honesty, with what amounts to a logical approach to any dilema, one does not pick a handgun in any defencive scenario as a first choice option.
Be it for two or four legged predators, you want the power and accuracy of a long gun should you have the option in any life and death scenario.
I have carried both semi-autos and revolvers in sticky situations, in urban settings, it matters less but, in the wilds, the wheelgun gets the nod!
( My first handguns were a custom Browning High-Power and a Charter Arms Police Bulldog 4'' in 38 spl. purchased together back in the 1970s )
Spot on!
I have two of each but since I’ve began shooting (1975) I’ve had the privilege of shooting many weapons (not including my military service time).
For revolvers I’m a S&W guy (though my first revolver was a Ruger .22 S/A convertible).
My only gripe (as many will attest to) is that stupid side lock on the newer Smith revolvers.
It just takes away from the cool aesthetics of the gun.
Other than that, they are well made but getting pricey.
I carry speed loaders since a 6-shooter is all you can chamber.
I currently have a Smith 686 plus in 3” so I get 7 shots.
I’ve had two different Smith 8-shooters (N-Frames) and they are a beast to carry! lol
I’m mainly a .357 guy though I’ve owned a Model 29 chambered in .44 mag.
It comes down to many factors, and today ammo is expensive, so I keep my revolvers all in .357 and buy bulk.
.357 ammo is very, very versatile and still reasonably priced.
We can talk ballistics all day so I won’t go there, but he’s right, it couldn’t hurt to have a few revolvers around.
You can go to practically any shooting range and rent any revolver .
First. I am historically a proponent of the Browning design (Government Model or - rather sloppily - '1911'). The design is reliable, the .45 ACP round is quite useful and recoil is not abusive.
However, I have taken to carrying a revolver. it is a short barreled S&W K frame (Mod 10) using +p rounds.
I find it much easier to conceal and manipulate (using the 'comfort station', putting it in the lockbox when visiting the hospital or county court house, storing at home and so forth) than the bigger and heavier Government Model.
I find double action more accurate than single action when shooting quickly. I have a copy of "Secrets of Double Action Shooting" by Bob Nichols. (Published in 1950 as I recall.)
Listening intently.
I have a 2.5 inch M19. I like it, but find the adjustable sights to be a bit big and a snag danger. The short cartridge ejection irritates me as well. I rather like the four inch version as a belt gun.
Yet more and more I realize the concept of a quick reload is valuable only in the various forms of '(im) practical pistol' competition.
In reality, I have realized if I have fired more than four rounds and not solved the immediate problem, I have far greater need of an undertaker or wound specialist than more ammunition.
10mm Auto is a very powerful round. The main problem it has is it is neither fish nor fowl. In a defense handgun, it has too much recoil for most people and as a large game cartridge, it is borderline weak.
The .40 S&W round does well for defensive use with moderate recoil. The main problem with the .40 is the competition for sales with the 9x19mm cartridge which seems to be more popular. (Not better, more popular.)
My first revolver experience was decades ago with a S&W model 10, and shortly after a 1911. I still carry a revolver about 25% of the time,and something about shooting them is almost cathartic.
Why is a revolver considered "fudd"? I prefer a light weight revolver for everyday carry over most semi-auto's.
I'm glad you brought up the "cool" thing, because it's totally true. Something about carrying a big 357 just makes you feel like a bada$s.
Looking cool is very important
Excellent points brother. With practice, you can't go wrong with a revolver. If you don't mind the weight, I recommend the Smith and Wesson 627 Pro 8 rounds of 357 mag is amazing!
When you’re shooting double action and you know you only have ~ six rounds, you’ll tend to shoot fewer rounds, more carefully. That’s important when every bullet that leaves your gun is going to stop somewhere with your name on it.
Never in a million years though I would like revolvers. Now I own the big 3 Colt Python, S&W 586 no dash, Ruger Security Six No warning banner. I want to give all the new versions a try as well. I think really what it boils down to is I enjoy steel framed pistols. Because pistols like the M9 and the CZ75 at well as the Browning high power and 1911 are also in my collection. As far as plastic fantastics I own a few of those as well but they are essentially the same thing. Not to much variation among them.
As a lefty... If you are a lefty and do any driving, I strongly recommend a revolver in a right-handed cross-draw holster. Just remember to train with your right hand as intended 👍
Love my model 17 bought in the early 80’s , for fun now I’m into cartridge conversion revolvers 1851,1858 and 1860 in 38 spl and 45 colt and carry s&w j frame
Something about shooting .357 at the range, you really know youve got something, but the recoil is still managable. Im a big of pocket carry in general, simply because its most convenient and comfortable and I like the SW J frames in .38 special. If Im carrying on my hip Ive got a Taurus 627, 4 inch and I never feel outgunned with 7 rounds of .357.
I have always had revolvers. I do have some simi autos but by far my revolvers deliver the most stopping power. As I have gotten older I find myself carrying my revolvers more.
The 10mm has been successfully used in the past two years stop multiple brown bear attacks in Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming. It is the number one choice of Alaskan hunting guides for bear defense. Check out Chuk’s Outdoor Adventures.
mrgman1326
10mm is a capable caliber but it is the bare minimum for big critter self defense... there is alot of hype that surrounds it.
Chuke talks about this on his channel even though he is a fan of the 10mm.
@ you make my case. If the minimum were not enough, it would not be the minimum. Accuracy trumps power. The 10mm affords the best and most chances to make accurate hits with sufficient power. This year alone real life is the proof of the 10mm theory.
@@mrgman1326
As in most things, "the bare minimum" is rarely good enough. It may allow you to get by, maybe not, but it doesn't mean it's a good or even the best choice.
"Accuracy trumps power" That's interesting... Power/energy/concussion is the only thing you'll have control over in a bear attack.
The odds of getting off more than 1 or 2 shots accurately at a charging bear... Is slim to none with any type firearm.
12 ga is best...
In the grand scheme of things, The number of 10mm bear defense encounters is comparatively small... It hasn't proven anything!
There are better choices available.
Hi, thank you for the video.
I am a 48 years old 1911 guy, but since 6 months the idea to own a revolver just popped from nowhere.
I will go with a French Manurhin or a korth in 357.
The term “fudd” doesn’t mean what you think it means. It isn’t referring to older style guns, it refers to people who are okay with people violating our second amendment rights.
No it refers to Elmer
@ , no, a fudd is what I stated it is, and what Yankee states that it is. th-cam.com/video/kmEnddr6Sa8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=d19zuNw0jXmaRhua
So I had a model 19 just like yours. I picked it up used in the early eighties. Loved that gun and hate that I got rid of it back when I was getting a sig 228 when they first came around and I thought they were cool. Anyway I wanted the 19 in a 4 inch until..... to live and die in la awesome movie. William Peterson was a secret service guy and he made that 19 look so badass. I was done for. Anyway I envy you for still having one in the fed length. Love your company and your videos can't wait to save enough for an alchemy. Tell Eli I said hi. Have a good holiday
Sorry I meant sig 226
I have owned revolvers since I started carrying as a civilian in 1980. Charter Arms Undercover. 38 spl. Then Ruger Security-six, 2.75 inch barrel .357mag. ..then Ruger Security-six, 4 inch barrel duty revolver. Then a S&W mod 19 4 in. Barrel .357mag. And I have semi autos also. But my revolvers just keep calling my name..
Reliability. Period.
Thank you for this. I showed my wife this video as I was dragging in my new colt kodiak through the door.
Ohhh yeah!
Your first three revolvers: a lightweight hammerless .38 pocket model; a medium-sized .357 fighting revolver; and a large bore single action magnum.
I love EDC my Dan Wesson 715 with 8 inch barrel in a shoulder rig
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My grandfather would make wax bullets for his revolvers so us boys could target practice in the alley behind his house, we eventuallywould go on to shoot them in competitions, to this day outta all the auto loaders I own I often more than not pack a model a wheel gun, usually either a model 15-3 combat masterpiece stoked with FBI load or a police service six with a 2 3/4 inch barrel stoked with 158 magnums.
Love revolvers. Learned on Auto loaders, first guns I shot were auto loaders, but the first pistol I bought, was an 1873 model Colt SA in 45 Colt. Still have it, still shoot it. Have two in that pattern, now, and a reproduction Schofield in the same calibre, and of course, my S&Ws. The 19 is a particular Favorite. Mine has the 5" barrel, its from the first year of production, got combat grips on it. Shoots wonderfully, but not as nice a trigger as the Model 10. Revolvers are just darn FUN, and reliable!
I am a Tokarev guy. Specifically Zastava. I carry a M70AA and have my surplus M57 in my truck. I also carry wheel guns. They are more of the budget option, but i still love them none the less. I am a wierdo when it comes to my selection, but i love the simplicity of a Tokarev over the 1911. The Tokarev you can argue was the glock of World War 2 service weapons. It has fewer parts than the 1911. Yet it is single action, has a browning action, but is slimmer. That's specially the reason i carry a full size M70AA. One it's in 9mm. Two it's got a full sized slide. One can argue that an M88A is smaller. I like having the option of the larger slide and extra round. I usually carry revolvers as a backup or a bag gun. I understand i may get flak, but i am 40 and have back problems from my service in the Marines. Well, revolvers are the best purse gun because it won't jam. If you buy a cheap ccw pack, you can have a good setup that's not expensive just in case you need to shoot through the bag.
Does the long barrel (German) gun dip when headed or are they balanced and leveled like the 1911.
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The simplicity is in the concept. New shooters are not as intimidated by the manual of arms for a revolver.
I've always liked revolvers. the real issue has always been price for what they are. even the LE trade ins are insane prices are just unreasonable. I got my 44mag for 400 though. I keep my eye out.
awesome video ... revolvers ROCK
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Where did you get your chest holster in the beginning clips? I'm looking for a chest holster for my S&W Model 327 with 5" barrel. Also I do agree with the .357 vs 10mm comment. The ballistic testing shows .357 hard cast having more penetration than its Buffalo Bore 10mm counterpart which is what you need for a bear caliber. It also helps that my revolver is an 8 shooter. The 10mm did have better wound channels though.
People who live in Alaska disagree with you about the 10MM rounds. You can carry around 16rounds of 10mm, instead of 5 of 44mag or 6 or 7 of 357 mag.
6 in 454 Casull will stop any bear
mandapalque
Capacity gives a false sense of security
@@shadowcastre you could be right.
i just bought a taurus 608 and i love it
Agree on main points 💯
During the 1800s, a revolver was needed to overcome the obvious disadvantage of a single-shot sidearm.
During the 1st-half of the 1900s, a revolver was needed since most of the world’s developed countries were using them for their military and police forces. Most ammunition being manufactured WERE FOR revolvers.
During the latter-half of the 20th century, it was debatable whether revolvers were still needed in light of the foregoing trend of using the 9mm high-capacity “wündernine” pistols.
Presently, there are DOZENS of semiautomatic pistols in the open market to choose from. Most are very good. A few are excellent. A small group are sub-marginal in design, aesthetics, AND functionality.
Modern revolver manufacturers number about 8. The “Big 3” revolver makers - Colt, Ruger, and Smith & Wesson - concentrate on double-action models that typically range in caliber between .35 to .45.
There appears to be three categories of double-action revolvers as follows.
1. Compact concealable models that typically chamber 5 rounds and are designed to be for self-defence and/or backup.
2. Large-frame models that chamber some of the most powerful cartridges ever developed. These are behemoths intended for protection against the largest 4-legged animals.
3. Large-frame models designed to chamber 9x33mmR (aka .357 Magnum) cartridges in their 7 OR 8 round cylinders.
I frequently CARRY a few models in category 1. I frequently also WEAR two models in category 2 lieu of a semi-auto during winter months when I can conceal the large frame better.
WHEN I WEAR a large revolver, I also carry a smaller semiauto so that when I run the “eightgun” dry, I don’t mistake the spare magazine for a revolver reload.
Same goes for when I WEAR a large semiauto and a smaller revolver.
For me, it’s NOT that I am compelled to “NEED” a revolver as much as that it has become so ingrained in my martial discipline that I no longer even give it a fleeting thought about its efficacy as a fighting sidearm.
Don't get me wrong, Auto's have their place. But civilians should primarily be slinging revolvers. Even the great Elmer Keith made this observation.
I love my 327. Yes, a 327 with everything you need.
I carry my S&W 640 3in all steel revolver. It is Magna-ported and a gem to shoot. In all deference to JMichelick, he is the best shooter around, but remember he heavily modifies the trigger and uses his special hand loads to set these records. He can still outshoot anyone with an OOB firearm.
My edc is a kimber Ks6 2 inch 357 very comfortable to carry easier to conceal than my shield plus
You should do a show on how you keep your sweat pants up with that 357 in your pocket ?? lol
Will do
Just posted a video
S&W 340 PD or the 327 PC 8 shot 357
The S&W Model 19 is one of my favorites. Very accurate and reliable.
Just my humble opinion of course. 😉
Right on
Would you be open to doing a video discussing the Kimber DET-1? There's not a ton out there talking about it or discussing it in detail; things like it's guide rod length or which grip safety they used as pictures tend to not show the extended grip safety they reportedly used.
I’m looking forward to your video about the Spohr. I have a Spohr 284 and it’s absolutely amazing; as good as my Python is, the Spohr blows it out of the water.
Love your 19-4!
Me too
@defconcreative my first was a 19-3 4"...since then 3 other .357 revolvers have been added to the fold.
I used to own a Coonan 357. It was utterly reliable, no issues whatsoever, and I would trust it as much as I trust my S&W 586. Did you own one?
Im a semi-auto pistol guy first and foremost, but I definitely like a few revolvers as well. That being said, mentioning Jerry Miculek is silly, because all of his revolvers are HIGHLY modified. ESPECIALLY with extremely light trigger jobs. So he is not the average guy that would be defending himself with a revolver and his revolvers are MOST DEFINITELY not the average revolvers used for self-defense.
Agree for the most part but with 10mm you can do anything you can do with a 357 but with a larger bullet and superior capacity. Same can be said for the 9mm vs 38 special. The gap that revolvers fill is in the non powerful/housewife calibers and the ultra high powered calbers north of 44mag.
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10mm at its heaviest loads is comparable to the average 357mag.
I only have my simi 0:48 rugar LPC . But I have a few revolvers , love them .
My first gun was a 38 special revolver
Got a K6S 3” for edc and GP100 4” match champion for home. Next step is one of those nice Korth revolvers. Just gotta figure out how to network and sell one of my kidneys.
Been eyeing that match champion myself. Was it worth the price point?
@ so I’ve never experienced a regular GP100, but I did a ton of research.
What you get with the match champion versus the original gp100:
1. The hogue wood grips ($100 value alone)
2. The half lug of the barrel - some prefer it, some don’t. Supposedly it balances the 4” versions better.
3. Polished internals - I don’t know how this translates to performance, but supposedly it helps
4. The Novac sights - much better than the basic sights that the original gp100 comes with.
Considering that the match champion was only about $100-120 more than the original GP100 in all the websites I’ve looked into, I’d say the wood grips and the sights alone are worth the extra money. The other stuff is just a bonus.
The only reason why I would say it’s not worth it is if you know exactly what customizations you want to make.
It's weird that this video popped up in my feed at this particular time. I looked at a 686+ today and I'm thinking about going back and buying it.
Beautiful gun, no regrets.
Do it
Purchased a SS Ruger security six 357 waiting for license approval cant wait to go to the range ❤❤
Move to a state where approval isn't a violation of 2A rights!
Frame 0.11 what holster are you using to carry the 1911? Is it exclusively used for the range or do you also CCW with it?
G20 unreliable? Yeah ok
10mm not as strong as the 357 yeah ok
6 shot vs 15 +1 sure
10 mm 200gr hardcast was man for bears lol
But I do agree everyone should have a revolver
Let’s not forget the g21 in 460 rolwand is a thing of beauty and puts up 1000 foot pounds of energy
Just shows he has no real cred. G20 is good bear medicine especially w hardcasts.
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10mm at its heaviest loads is similar to the average 357mag.
Capacity gives a false sense of security.
200 gr hard cast is promoted as bear capable to sell ammunition as the hype continues to surround the 10mm.
Definitely in your fudd era. 10mm out of a Glock or an fn is extremely reliable and proven against bear. Just get a revolver because they’re awesome. Failures do happen in revolvers and when they do they’re typically catastrophic.
At 70 I carry a S/W 442 with Plus p's.. I mostly carry my S/W 66..3"barrel round butt.. I do love a 1911.. I have owned many..I still carry my Springer TRP with some custom work..good winter carry gun.... A lesson..if you carry, always carry.. atbthe store my brother was in shopping at 0600.. there was a whack job chasing folks around with a machete'.. He was able to fend the guy off with his cart!!.. Now we both carry ALWAYS!!
Love the 2 1/2 inch 19 but they make rather poor pocket carry and I can’t see them cooperating with gym shorts or sweats. On the other hand, after winding up 33 years of LE, in reflection, a revolver was sufficient for everything I ever did. Actually, the Colt King Cobra or Viper 3 inch versions are intriguing, though an an alloy frame is better for pocket carry.
I used to be a gun lover but now I’m a fudd. Which is sad because I’m in my 20’s I guess I’m old fashioned
It’s ok to enter full fudd mode…. Embrace it
Own two ,the colt Phyton and a colt Saa the Phyton is two years and the SAA is 55 years ❤😊
I HAVE A RUGER SUPER REDHAWK CHAMBERED IN 454CASULL AND IT'S A MONSTER
Besides my 1911s, also have a 460 S&W.
Wheelguns rock!
Hell yeah they do
I always pocket carry my kimber k6xs as a backup in case my Colt 44 mag Anoconda fails.😂
That 19 is a beauty, but my ass you pocket carry this!
I own a 66-2 snub myself and love it. But my main EDC is a Colt DS.
Nice video…
Posting a short video on my channel about it now
Best comment ever; "...whatever that stupid Glock model is in 10mm..."
Continued- all my other revolvers are Colts and S&W's.
Everyone who carries a gun for self-defense should own at least one revolver for that purpose. A J frame in .38 Special or similar is not necessarily a bad choice, but know its limitations.
For years and years, armed professionals off duty carried snubnose 5 and 6 shot revolvers and trusted their lives to them. I know that was mostly in the days before high capacity semi autos came along but how much time is anyone going to have to shoot up a 15 to 17 round magazine? I think that in the real world where a real person would have to defend themself, a snub would do fine as long as the person carrying it practiced with it.
@TwoWeekCowboy Practice is definitely required, especially reloads. I came to my conclusion by way of an unfortunate, but thankfully not too serious accident. I was in a car accident many years ago, and my injuries left me unable to rack the slide on my semiautos. The only revolver I had was a 4" 1965 Colt Python, not something I really wanted to resort to for self-defense due to it being expensive to replace, and I didn't have a holster for it. I've since acquired a S&W 640.
First person to guess the number of times this guy touches his face wins. 🤣
Ok. You need a 70s vintage Clot Detective special , blue finish. Next a 4 inch S&W 19, paired with. 4 inch 22 model 19, older vintage not the new classic series. Next a 6 inch Colt Python 357 in blue , reissue version is decent and affordable, last a Colt SAA or replica in 357 . Then you can call yourself a revolver guy