I think that his QB coach (Greg Knapp) dying before the season started and the coaches deciding he should run the whole playbook for a system that isn't known for being easy to learn were two big factors that affected his development...I'm careful to not give a ton of excuses but I have to imagine those 2 points played a big factor.
Knapp would have been huge; not just for Wilson but also La Fleur, rookie OC. LaFleur wouldn't have been on the sideline for the first several games of the season, but up in the box where he clearly calls a better game.
Totally agree with you and I also believe, he just wasn’t ready. And I believe the coaching staff knew it and they learned from it ,because when he came back from injury he was by far a much better quarterback.
The biggest problem with Wilson is he always want a BIG time play, he’ll rather throw to a covered receiver down the field then throw a easy check down I watched every single Zach Wilson game last year and imo that was his biggest issue
Absolutely. Before he got injured I believe week 7 at New England he was dreadful, I remember hearing that he was “falling apart at the seams” but after he came back everything looked so much better. If you want to be impressed watch the bucs game, that game in my opinion showed his potential more than anything. There’s a bright future if he can just put it all together.
Great points. No one barely touched him when he was with BYU. He is obviously spooked by the speed of the NFL defensive linemen. Not sure he can overcome this, but I really hope he can. However the Jets need to prepare as if can not.
i think one thing that wasnt mentioned here was his between the numbers skills, j saw alot of tape where he seemed to easily find the spots over the middle of the field and complete hard throws. i think the processor problem isnt a crippling one, and an improved run game and wr core will help him find the confidence to tune out the rush
You're talking about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear, It's not going to happen. Zach could easilly be holding a clipboard by the end of the season.
@@ThinkingFootball youre acting like an incredibly important skill that is present in elite quarterbacks means nothing because he is having very typical rookie struggles with processing. A slow processor isnt the death of a qbs development, and you cant deny that confidence in hius first read was lessened by his recievers having the 5th most drops in the league
@@bill2953 hes not a "sows ear" he is a promising young qb with elite traits. and who tf is he gonna be holding the clipboard for? mike white? joe flacco? dont write off a kid because he struggles in his rookie year. smh the type of person to think the bills shouldve cut allen
@@thewinger337 Then he should have a killer year since he's got the rookie bs behind him, right? Holding a clipboard is a figure of speech, kid. Relax, take a chill pill and good luck with your elite traits. lol
Every single qb that has ever played in a shanahan system for the first time has struggled. Even guys like Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan. The only exception has been guys like jimmy g, Matthew stafford and rg3. Guys who went to a shanahan system where the entire team had already been in the system prior to the qb arriving. You even saw russel Wilson struggle last year with the new west coast offensive scheme.
no wilson wasn’t in a full version of the shanahan scheme it was more of a version of mcvays scheme plus the play calling was atrocious, also rg3 wasn’t in the scheme fully either it was more of what baylor did and a mix of wide zone & pa passes built off of it, also rodgers didn’t struggle in it he actually played very well in it his first yr & stafford played in mcvay’s scheme(i know the mcvay scheme & shanahan come from the same coaching tree but there is variousness and you can tell the difference if you pay attention)
@@jameshoops10 awesome! Thank you for the correction. I guess I grouped all The west coast schemes as a shanahan system. I’m no football expert honestly. I kind of just went down the shananhan coaching tree and noticed all of the first year qb’s struggled. Aaron Rodgers struggled by his standards. He almost doubled his touchdowns from yesterday 1 to year 2 in the system. First year he was a top 10ish qb statistically and year 2 he was top 1 or 2 and had an mvp season. But that would probably make sense why stafford and rg3 performed well year 1. The jets have a tough schedule this year but I’m excited to see how Zach looks with a full offense around him and not a team decimated by injuries. He played the toughest defensive schedule out of any qb in the league but that’s no excuse for being as bad as he was. Same goes to Justin fields and Trevor Lawrence. They were awful as well.
I will say that he improved a LOT once he came back from injury last year. That time to watch seemed to help a lot. That improvement he showed gives a lot of hope moving forward
@@seanmcgregor1035 well i mean all i said was that his end to last season had given me hope for this year. Which still makes sense. Turns out he's just one of the worst QBs in NFL history
I was curious about Zach Wilson draft analysis videos after how bad he is doing, yet again, this season. This video really confirms the how/why of his hilarious self-sack last game. He self-implodes under pressure. Awesome video, showing exactly that!
I had a video on YT on why I would have never drafted him - but YT made us delete it bec we aren't 'allowed' college tape on YT It's over on our Patreon though!
First, I like the analysis, nice animations and interesting analysis. I do only partially agree though. I think you missed to look at the progress. The issues against the patriots: it's his second game in the NFL and working against Bill Belichick. The texans game was his first after the injury, lots of pressure because backup QBs performed as hell. The dolphins play, he didn't have the handle for the ball, that's why he didn't throw the ball. His routine throws were an issue. I liked the progress though. I believe he will be one of the most improved QBs in the NFL
Quarterbacks who run a form of the West Coast system straight out of college are destined for a lengthy career. Brett Favre was drafted by the Jerry Glanville Falcons but was traded as he was merely a gunslinger sideshow in Atlanta, where Ron Wolf saw the kind of tenacity and loose confidence that teammates rally around Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Montana and Ken Andersen are all good examples of how the West Coast Offense takes short passing to complement a quick hitting running game, using the Tight End and Running Back positions as main passing targets over locking in on the flankerback, slot back or split end Quarterbacks who settle into a system like the West Coast offense, where it's not the home run ball, but a detailed passing and running game with timing and training specifically based on quickness and good feet are the right way to establish an NFL passing game with consistency I'm yet to see a quarterback who didn't get introduced into a system that teaches pure fundamental football before expecting success who was successful in the NFL
What NO ONE mentions about Wilson’s “STELLAR” Junior year is that because of covid rules, all the Pac-12/Big Ten teams cancelled their non-conference games. What that meant was that BYU did not face their most difficult competition in 2020 coinciding with their glorious 11-1 season. In each of 2018/2019, they faced at least 3 ranked teams from those conferences. In 2020, they did not have to play the likes of Wisconsin(2018:6), Utah(2018:18, 2019:12), Washington(2018:11, 2019:22) and USC(2019:24), which they faced at least once in the 2 previous years.
It's a great point, and I have heard it before. Weird how the scouts looked at his numbers as if he was playing in the same context as usual. Pre-covid, he was extremely average. During covid against worse competition, he looked great. But no alarms went off. Probably everyone looking at his football body and Jets fans wanting to move on from Darnold.
The hitting the flat problem will go away. You are dead on with the processing speed though that was always frustrating for me watching him in college. His senior year he was able to make up for it by learning to watch a lot of game tape, but I don't know if that will be enough in the NFL.
@@geraldbrown7192 I don't recall that as an issue in college. I watched every game. I'm sure it happened at some point but I don't think it was regular.
You have to understand the Shanahan system he was asked to run is not easy to learn. I think year 2 in it will give us a real idea of Zach's strengths and weaknesses.
he started to process information faster later into the season in the Tampa game to be specific he didn't even flinch on some of the decision making but early in the season he definitely struggled.
Nobody knows these things better than Zach and it seems like he's had a fire under him all off-season. I'm encouraged that he's been putting in the work by flying out to his WRs, going to Tight End University and hosting a bunch of his guys and Flacco in Idaho, and even putting on like 15 lbs of muscle . With the new weapons and his work ethic, I don't see how he doesn't improve substantially this year.
@@jeccdog7584 Of course it matters. As you work hard and practice you get better at processing information faster. Recognizing what defenses are throwing at you, when your receivers are going to break open etc becomes second nature. As a guitarist I've learned how to recognize pattern changes during improvisations faster through practicing, making me less likely to make a mistake. His poor play early looked like rookie jitters to me, which is understandable. But to say he has some limit already on his ability to process things at 22 years old is pure horseshit.
@@guitearist did you watch the video you're commenting on? When jets receivers were open zach wilson couldn't find them. It's a him problem. I never said he can't improve or is bust. Comparing him to Herbert is laughable. Stop the cap and excuses@
@@jeccdog7584 It's just common sense. A few plays where he's holding the ball isn't anything to panic about. If he goes out and plays like shit next year then fine, he ain't the guy. To say working hard doesn't matter is just stupid though.
@@guitearist it matters 10 pct for the problem we're talking about. It's one of those skills that can't really be improved on. Once a panicked qb always a panicked qb
It wasn’t too fast for Zach… Jets the only team that gave their rookie QB the entire playbook through trial and error, he had to learn on the go and did pretty well on the second part of the schedule.
Agreed. Im so sick of these new generation fans quick to call people bust nowadays. Or they just di*kride other players and dont give others a fair shake. I just think the're own lives are a bust so they like to throw 💩 at other's to make up for it.
Two things mark the great QB's from the bad ones -- quick processing and accuracy in split second decisions. We can make excuses about the playbook but the fact is he still hasn't shown these traits, consistently. Yeah maybe it 'slows down' for him but I don't think the odds are in his favor. Once you get 'googly eyed' back there, it's very hard to un-googly eye it. At least not to 'elite QB' status.
I think Zach has a chance to be a top-15 QB as long as he can harness some of that recklessness. He's getting some serious talent around him so I do expect him to do well and get at least 6 wins this coming season. I think Lawrence will make the biggest improvement because he had the worst coach and team so it shouldn't be too difficult. Excited for the season to begin.
Yea, but he has a lot of potential, if he went to a better team he could be a josh allen type player. Not at all the skill, but josh allen was poverty at first and then blossomed into something great. If zach wilson were on a good team i think he could have a similar trend/development like josh allen.
@@jameshoops10 Let him consistently be in the top 15 first lol. Thats hard enough at this point. Dude could EASILY end up being Derek Carr with better wheels AT BEST. for no other reason than, this ish is hard af to play. You don't just enter the league a really talented dude and the league just go "Oh wow, ur so talented! come sit in the top 5" lol, nope, Ask Josh Allen for example you gotta earn that. He's lucky if hes the 2nd best QB in his division rn and he's not and the guy who is got picked 13-14 picks after him. He better shape up.
@@tvtda1 how many times did you need to see patrick mahomes do what he did after his first playing season to know he was great? plus we’re projecting ceiling
@@jameshoops10 Patrick Mahomes got to sit his 1st year, and avoid many growing pains he would've had, learning in a classroom instead on a better team. The concept a QB can't learn anything from sitting is a lie thats told by people who don't play the position because evidence has proven otherwise historically. Zach shouldn't have been starting his rookie season either. its only served to risk him developing bad habits and mistakes, that he should've had time working out how to avoid making to begin with. Even without all of those other factors, the reality in hindsight was and always has been Patrick is a generational level arm talent. Zach Wilson isn't in his class at the same point of his career. people need to get that comparison out of their heads.Patrick Mahomes is gonna become a consistently lazy comparison most players aren't worthy of particularly zach, granted he has upside. its just that patrick mahomes 1st season he put up 50 touchdowns and was the MVP of the league lol. (i think that was the moment for me lol) Zach's 1st year isn't the end all be all, sometimes you have to have a manning rookie year before you take off. The issue is if his initial evaluation was overblown and overhyped all together due to the competition level he played his last year? That actually seems likely to be honest. My concern is, how far off are evaluators? its not safe to assume he'll grow out of his processing issues or that the game will slow down consistently for him.
You've done a great job of showcasing his skill and downfalls. Zach has some SERIOUS ball in him...I truly hope that Mr. Payton's staff can help him let it all out 🙂
Last year Zack played the same way he played in college... a little erratic at times and always looking for the "big throw" or 40 yard scramble... Needless to say that's not going to cut it in the NFL. Must learn to settle down and play at a nice poised controlled pace, u know, kinda like Davis Mills! Anyway, I think Zack will get it eventually (probably not this season) as it's going to take time... Fans need to be patient as he adjusts his game and works thru adversity. Good luck Zack!
Best 'review' I've seen of Zach so far. I watched every game last year and I truly believe in him and his talents. The criticisms are fair, processed things slowly at times, often passed on easy completions searching for big plays and just plain missed check downs and screen passes. This year will be huge for him, I know he has the arm talent to be a plus QB in this league but what really excites me is his athleticism and improv skills. With huge improvements in his weapons/protection, a full offseason with the same staff and the extreme work he put in this offseason..hoping for a BIG leap this year. Great video!
Almost every first year QB struggles in the NFL, especially on a bad team with a rookie HC, OC, and DC. It's year two that will likely tell the tale, how quickly is he processing things after a year in the same system, with the same coaching staff, and improved talent all around him at every level? And if I'm not mistaken, he didn't throw an int for the last five games after he came back from injury. The bread isn't baked yet, let's give it some more time in the oven and see if the dough rises. Ahh thankyou.
I believe in an interview Zach admitted that prior to getting injured he felt the games was going to fast and he was having trouble trying to catch up. But after watching his three back ups from sideline for four weeks. He notice how fast they were processing the game. The four week injury might’ve been the best thing for him because after that even that Texas game he played much better than prior.
Zach shouldn’t have started out the gate....it was irresponsible of the Jets FO not to have a Vet QB going into the start of the season, to give him time to learn if he needed it. They went young right away and left him as the best option on the roster when he could have benefited from sitting a few games and really learned the offense and also how to prepare to start a NFL game from a vet
Once Jets replaced Van Roten at RT with Duvernay-Tardiff, Zach Wilson seemed more calm and poised in the pocket. And I believe he finished with 9 TDs and Just 2 INT over his last 7 games. And didn't throw any INTs in his last five. All that while losing starters on the OL and RBs-WRs. It just gives me hope that with a vastly improved starting cast, Wilson can at least manage the offense way more efficiently. While continuing where he left off at end of last season. Staying calm and poised while not turning the ball over.
True. But he got a little lucky. There were a couple throws that should have been picks but were dropped. I think that stat is more realistically 9 TDs and 4 or 5 INTs. Still an improvement 2nd half of the season though.
Great breakdown. The check downs improved after he came back from injury . My biggest concern is his processing speed. I noticed that because he isn't processing it quick enough, he would through the ball behind receivers at times since the timing is off. Hopefully he fixes that . He has the talent to be top 5 but needs to work on the mental aspect. I think he will figure it out
The mental aspect may be the only thing players can't improve. It's up to the coaches to recognize that and scheme around that limitation. At least until they find a QB who can throw and process things faster.
I think another issue he had last year was hitting receivers in stride. Not sure if that's something you maybe picked up but I feel like on some of even his best throws the WRs had to stop running to get to the ball. Great video!
All of the processing and decision making was negated in his junior year due to his line. I think he was sacked single digits and if you watch every game 90% of plays not one defender wins against the line. He never had to worry
So basically what you are saying is to give him the No. 1 offensive line in the league and he will own?! Doesn't every QB want that? And how is that making him the franchise QB when his ability is entirely depended on the line?!
@@jonny5370 Im saying any "talent" he showed in college was because he had 10 seconds each play to throw the ball. I don't think he is a playmaker at all.
most of the clips seem to show him in shotgun, taking a 7 step drop (including the PAs) or are designed for one to two reads at most (so as to make it simpler for him to process). Was that largely how their playbook ran last year? It really seemed like: 1. He couldn't identify who was Man coverage or if he needed to go to his hot read on the pre-snap 2. Line protection never shifted or adjusted on the presnap leading to the missed rushers The latter should be either the center or vet linemen calling the shift , but perhaps if they stopped having him 10+ yards from LOS by the time he needs to decide to throw the ball, work on his fundamentals like throwing to the flat under pressure so he can complete those flat and screen passes on a consistent basis, they could do what the Pats did with Brady. The made serious gains in yardage purely by exploiting screen passes from the shotgun and split formation. Mix in PAs and RPOs, and you'd limit his thinking while giving him time to "catch up" speed wise to the NFL level.
Wilson is talented, no doubt. But he really has to perform this season. Imo, his roster and what the Jets did for him in free agency is better than what any other team did for their 2021 rookies. He really has no excuses if he doesn't perform to at least a significant improvement on his rookie year. I'm keen to see how it plays out.
Good analysis here and agree with all the "bad" points as a NYJ fan. Now that it's a more crafted team, Zach really has to show he's learned something. Hopefully he will watching Flacco for a couple weeks recovering.
As a jets fan. Before his injury I wasn’t high on Zach and he definitely had his rookie woes. Yes he has problems with pressure and making the easy throw but his post injury play wasn’t nothin special but promising to where he was more on time and making quick decisions. It has me excited
On the plus side of Wilson, he the better of the last 4 rookie qbs that's started for the Jets. Sam, Geno and Mark. As with any team, health of the team will be the biggest factor. I can see 8 wins, maybe more with some luck.
There's some truth to this vid on his mechanics, but there's quite a bit more. The NY Jets are a notoriously poorly run club, attract bad coaches. There just aren't any quality coaches to teach him how to elevate his game to NFL level. Also, the Jets are repeating a mistake they made with Darnold. Rather than develop him behind a journeyman/veteran QB (like Josh McCown) they throw the rookie out there to the wolves to get annihilated. Very few clubs develop their QBs anymore.
Great breakdown! I'm a Jets fan so I'm biased, but I think the two major problems will be much better this year, if not 100% fixed. First, the mental stuff. Maybe he'll never be Manning, Rodgers or Brady with the mental game. But everything I read is about Zach is that he was OVER-Processeing. And that the coaches are telling him to just focus on what he needs to focus on. With Lefluer's clock like precision plays I think that'll help if Zach takes that advice to heart. White & Flacco aren't world beaters. But they played within the scheme. Whereas Zach, in his youth, was trying to do to much. Less is more. If he thinks LESS I think he'll think faster. I think it's why he's better on the broken plays. He's reacting not thinking. The second thing you talk about, the missed layups, I feel that's more problematic. But it seems that unlike the mental aspect, this CAN be fixed just by working harder. Just repetition. The mental problems might be a hold over from college, but these little flat plays he made at BYU, right? It seems more mechanical, doesn't it? Maybe something the late Knapp could have kept at bay during the season before his untimely passing. I feel like the coaching staff knows all this. I feel like they're gonna' fix it one way or another during the pre-season. Either coach him up so the errors get reduced, OR simplify the things that are confusing him so he can just play & react as the great athlete everyone knows he is. My prediction? Not a Mahomes or even Josh Allen type year. But I say he fixes the small stuff, the Mac Jones stuff, and still wows us with the occasional big play. Enough for the Jets to get 8-10 wins and at least be in the chase towards the end of the year. Hope so.
You have accurately nailed everything with Zach. Honestly, I feel like Zach is high upside big project & the Jets coaching staff just isn't good enough to pull it off. Huge mistake to just plug him in as Day 1 starter without forcing him to earn the starting job.
@@frankt7521 What makes it even worst is that they just finished doing an absolutely terrible job developing Darnold. I'm not saying Darnold could have been good. But the Jets did a terrible job surrounding him with mediocre talent on OLine & WR
100%. Sam would have done better by sitting a year and imagine him with the talent they now have. JD told Sam's parents he would surround him with players. Failed. (injuries didn't help either) The Jets are impatient, as are the fans, to wait for development toward sustainability.
Almost every rookie QB to ever start has the same exact problem with processing plays and defenses slow. The best of them explode and become amazing players in year 2 and at the latest maybe year 3. We’ll see what hes got this season plus his team is definitely better so he’ll have more help.
The guy skipped his senior season to go in the draft and everyone said they never played anyone. No other college team traveled like his team did to play football...nor would they. His NFL QB coach dies. Starts as an NFL with young and questionable players around him and with a new HC and OC also gets hurt and misses games. No one is perfect coming out of the draft. This year will tell who he really is.
Can’t wait for Garrett Wilson to turn him into a beast. The jets coaching is top 5 in the league and they’re starting to get the players to be good. Wouldn’t surprise me if they somehow squeak in the playoffs but it would be hard with how the afc is
Come on man your trying to tell me he got that dawg in him he is a bum. My team is filled with dawgs. The Philadelphia eagles. Dog town here and that Wilson character would be run out of this city. He ain’t no dawg. He ain’t no Jason Kielce lane Johnson Jordan mailata Landon Dickerson Brandon graham jalen carter Jordan Davis reed blankenship Hassan reddick josh sweat Fletcher Cox former dogs Chris long Brian Dawkins Brian Westbrook Jerome brown Reggie white Clyde Simmons Connor Barwin Demeco Ryan’s Malcom Jenkins Asante samuel Seth Joyner Mike quick Fred Barnett Keith Byars Leonard weaver Andre waters Troy Vincent Bobby Taylor Johnrunysn Tra Thomas Jason Peters Brent Celek Zach Ertz and the dog himself Saint Nick himself Nicky Foles
If his decision making process is that slow, he's a backup at best no matter how great his arm talent might be. NFL Defenses are just too good and too fast. Really like your videos by the way. Totally agreed with your analysis of Trevor Lawrence.
this is why i wonder when people hate on qb's not having elite arm talent or athleticism. mental processing can still lead to success. without processing, arm talent is worthless.
Zach Wilson isn't a good quarterback, the fans know this. He's a back-up talent at best, but he's not a quality caliber starter. He's been the most erratic QB despite having more talent surrounding him than Darnold, Geno & others. Mark Sanchez had less offensive talent and still made it work.
that play at 6:00 i think yall are wrong about. Wilson made the right read just didn't hit his mark. Slay probably tips that ball or picks it off and takes it for 6, while his other guy was about 5 yards open. he just has to make that throw.
I’m not an analyst or a qb coach but it seems simple to me. He played shitty teams with shitty defenses in college. To draft him number 2 overall and put him in the nfl as a day 1 starter is way above his skill level at the moment. If you got him in later rounds as a project kind of guy maybe he has a shot. We whiffed on Sam Darnold and that put us in a desperate spot for a quarterback and here we are.
I'm a Florida Gators fan. Anthony Richardson has the same problems especially the pitch and catch seemingly easy throws in the flat. His problems can be coached but his rocket arm and physical stature is what makes him a first round pick. He's a Boom or bust for who ever drafts him.
4 games into this season and yeah, this video still rings pretty true. he's struggling on some pass rushing attempts and he's been really poor against the broncos/packers. however, he's not throwing the ball away to secondaries, and he's still limiting turnovers. jets gotta hope he grows because this is still worrisome as a fan. the defense also has been helping out a ton as of late. I hope zach can at least get some TD passes soon, because it's going to become a pressing issue.
I don’t disagree with anything in this video....and as a Jet fan I’m not the highest on Zach, but it’s worth noting that most of the “bad” stuff was in the beginning of the season, and most of the good stuff(minus the Titans game) came after he came back from injury.....I’m not sure why we thought it was a good idea to bring in a gunslinger from BYU to run a Shanahan style WCO.....but there’s still a chance things can slow down and he can improve on his shortcomings....
The whole problem is everybody wants instant success. He was pushed into the starting role FAR to early and his play showed that. Hell even the coaching staff owned up to it. And News flash ALL the rookie QBs struggled!!
Alot of the plays at the end were some awful concepts, play action with max protection, and only 2 or 3 guys in routes and non hot or go's. Just some slant and button hooks. A good qb coach , gotta teach him to change the play or, signal a 9 on the lone defender wr. Take your chance with a outside the numbers deep route. Hopefully they clean up the offense.
A great, but frightening breakdown. The raw physical talent is clearly there. But the inability to accurately throw to the flat or check down-some of the easiest throws there are-is a huge red flag. Processing speed may come with experience, but inaccuracy from a clean pocket is just bad.
News flash. The game is fast for all rookies, especially at QB. If he has a line, which is still suspect can block, and weapons he didn't have last year,but are supposedly here this year pan out. Let's see what becomes of him, on a team at the bottom for a long time.
I'm a jets fan & very good analysis breakdown was spot on however rookie headcoach, QB, & Offensive coordinator = Disaster in the NFL when Zach was injured the backup QBs had a better grasp of the offense better than he did down to the 3rd string QB.... Zach was trying to do to much instead of what the defense gives you....when he came back he looked way more comfortable the last 4games without Elijah Moore, & Corey Davis & No Bechton on the O-line....will see with the changes if he improves I believe he will dramatically
It's never always the QB. You have to consider who's offensive scheme he's trying to run, because there are more "phuked" up coaches in the NFL then there are truly great ones. "D'ham" near ever great QB in the history of the NFL ended up with a quality coach. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Drew Bledsoe, Jonathan Mcnabb, Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, you name them... Those guys did not have pure "chitty" offensive minded coaches when they were in the upswing of their careers. Put Zach Wilson with Andy Reid or Sean Payton (retired ) and watch him floursih. If he can't shine with coaches that good, then he's a bust nutt...it's that simple.
This is all the same criticixim Justin Herbert got. And Wilson's deep ball is just as good as Herbert, Mahomes, or Allen. This is an easy video to make. It throws football out the window and simply looks at slow motion frames of the game. Aint no rookie gonna be perfect. And the game gets a lot better when it's 3rd and 1 instead of 3rd and 6. Or, when it's 2nd and 1, knowing you have a 220lb back that runs a 4.3 to bail you out. Wilson has IT. ...Nice quality video anyway, Solid produciton. I'm subbed now
@@jeccdog7584 Difference is that Herbert had Hunter Henry, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and Austin Ekeler. Jets didn’t have any players half as good as one of them
@@cptmactavish3310 but realistically even though the chargers had those pieces when Herbert was a rookie. Ekeler was hurt for 4 weeks, Williams had an okay year. Allen was great with Herbert but still got injured and on top of that the chargers o-line was extremely bad in.
JETS fan here, I watched every game, including the 4 games Wilson didn't start. Rookie Mike White threw for 4 TDs and 400 yards against the eventual AFC champs. Josh Johnson and Joe Flacco made the offense look at least competent. One thing Wilson has going for him is he is smart and determined; I'm not counting him out, but right now he is looking up at being rated a "fair" QB.
How many games will the New York Jets WIN in 2022?
6
9
6 or 7
7 to 9 wins
7 at best
I think that his QB coach (Greg Knapp) dying before the season started and the coaches deciding he should run the whole playbook for a system that isn't known for being easy to learn were two big factors that affected his development...I'm careful to not give a ton of excuses but I have to imagine those 2 points played a big factor.
people are so quick to ignore Knapp’s death as if he wasn’t the QB coach of oh idk Matt Ryan and Peyton Manning
Knapp would have been huge; not just for Wilson but also La Fleur, rookie OC. LaFleur wouldn't have been on the sideline for the first several games of the season, but up in the box where he clearly calls a better game.
In deed
I agree.
Totally agree with you and I also believe, he just wasn’t ready. And I believe the coaching staff knew it and they learned from it ,because when he came back from injury he was by far a much better quarterback.
Never realized how fast Brady processes things and gets the ball out quick until I saw quarterbacks who process things slow and hesitate. 😳
This a whole fact
Bilicheck
Well yeah a near 2 straight decades of elite defenses and elite olines will allow that to develop
@@vsauce4678 as if that's brady's fault? Brandy is the smartest QB since montana go cry about it
@@vsauce4678 what you want goat to do about that?
The biggest problem with Wilson is he always want a BIG time play, he’ll rather throw to a covered receiver down the field then throw a easy check down I watched every single Zach Wilson game last year and imo that was his biggest issue
This is facts
It was
Some rookies are that way, gotta break that college "easymode" defense mindset
@@Vestige98 Thats all it really is! Zach does all the hard shit good already, which is crazy lol. All he has to do now is hit those layups
The throws he makes, he makes it looks so easy imo, his arm is crazy lol, but I'm a byu fan so I probably shouldn't be in these comments 😅 🤣
i seen him progress from most of the weaknesses pointed out at the end of the year the only issue now is inconsistency
Absolutely. Before he got injured I believe week 7 at New England he was dreadful, I remember hearing that he was “falling apart at the seams” but after he came back everything looked so much better. If you want to be impressed watch the bucs game, that game in my opinion showed his potential more than anything. There’s a bright future if he can just put it all together.
@@dkplaysallday7955 the bucs game shows a lot of potential im rooting for him
No you didn’t see that.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx things change but im glad you got hindsight
Great points. No one barely touched him when he was with BYU. He is obviously spooked by the speed of the NFL defensive linemen. Not sure he can overcome this, but I really hope he can. However the Jets need to prepare as if can not.
We’re getting Aaron Rodgers
@@PettyPete 🫥🫡
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i think one thing that wasnt mentioned here was his between the numbers skills, j saw alot of tape where he seemed to easily find the spots over the middle of the field and complete hard throws. i think the processor problem isnt a crippling one, and an improved run game and wr core will help him find the confidence to tune out the rush
The between the numbers skill isnt there half ther time because he's too slow identifying it
You're talking about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear, It's not going to happen. Zach could easilly be holding a clipboard by the end of the season.
@@ThinkingFootball youre acting like an incredibly important skill that is present in elite quarterbacks means nothing because he is having very typical rookie struggles with processing. A slow processor isnt the death of a qbs development, and you cant deny that confidence in hius first read was lessened by his recievers having the 5th most drops in the league
@@bill2953 hes not a "sows ear" he is a promising young qb with elite traits. and who tf is he gonna be holding the clipboard for? mike white? joe flacco? dont write off a kid because he struggles in his rookie year. smh the type of person to think the bills shouldve cut allen
@@thewinger337 Then he should have a killer year since he's got the rookie bs behind him, right? Holding a clipboard is a figure of speech, kid. Relax, take a chill pill and good luck with your elite traits. lol
Zach Wilson is the most athletic qb in the nfl. Dude slayed a cougar with his bare hands
::stands up and slowly claps:: It is rare a TH-cam comment makes me belly laugh. Thank you.
you mean he rode the cougar bare back
@@RhodesianSuperiority it was a joke dummy.
Every single qb that has ever played in a shanahan system for the first time has struggled. Even guys like Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan. The only exception has been guys like jimmy g, Matthew stafford and rg3. Guys who went to a shanahan system where the entire team had already been in the system prior to the qb arriving. You even saw russel Wilson struggle last year with the new west coast offensive scheme.
Sergio is in denial of Zach's craptastic brain power
no wilson wasn’t in a full version of the shanahan scheme it was more of a version of mcvays scheme plus the play calling was atrocious, also rg3 wasn’t in the scheme fully either it was more of what baylor did and a mix of wide zone & pa passes built off of it, also rodgers didn’t struggle in it he actually played very well in it his first yr & stafford played in mcvay’s scheme(i know the mcvay scheme & shanahan come from the same coaching tree but there is variousness and you can tell the difference if you pay attention)
@@jameshoops10 awesome! Thank you for the correction. I guess I grouped all The west coast schemes as a shanahan system. I’m no football expert honestly. I kind of just went down the shananhan coaching tree and noticed all of the first year qb’s struggled. Aaron Rodgers struggled by his standards. He almost doubled his touchdowns from yesterday 1 to year 2 in the system. First year he was a top 10ish qb statistically and year 2 he was top 1 or 2 and had an mvp season. But that would probably make sense why stafford and rg3 performed well year 1. The jets have a tough schedule this year but I’m excited to see how Zach looks with a full offense around him and not a team decimated by injuries. He played the toughest defensive schedule out of any qb in the league but that’s no excuse for being as bad as he was. Same goes to Justin fields and Trevor Lawrence. They were awful as well.
@@sergioferrel1929 glad to inform
@Bryan Smith you are.. correct! woot
I will say that he improved a LOT once he came back from injury last year. That time to watch seemed to help a lot. That improvement he showed gives a lot of hope moving forward
and he regressed this season. miserable.
NO NO NO
@@davidmoser3535 Turns out ZW is just a glorified high school QB lmao
This aged well
@@seanmcgregor1035 well i mean all i said was that his end to last season had given me hope for this year. Which still makes sense. Turns out he's just one of the worst QBs in NFL history
I was curious about Zach Wilson draft analysis videos after how bad he is doing, yet again, this season. This video really confirms the how/why of his hilarious self-sack last game. He self-implodes under pressure. Awesome video, showing exactly that!
I had a video on YT on why I would have never drafted him - but YT made us delete it bec we aren't 'allowed' college tape on YT
It's over on our Patreon though!
The kid made some money. I hope him the best. God bless
First, I like the analysis, nice animations and interesting analysis. I do only partially agree though.
I think you missed to look at the progress. The issues against the patriots: it's his second game in the NFL and working against Bill Belichick. The texans game was his first after the injury, lots of pressure because backup QBs performed as hell. The dolphins play, he didn't have the handle for the ball, that's why he didn't throw the ball.
His routine throws were an issue. I liked the progress though.
I believe he will be one of the most improved QBs in the NFL
Quarterbacks who run a form of the West Coast system straight out of college are destined for a lengthy career.
Brett Favre was drafted by the Jerry Glanville Falcons but was traded as he was merely a gunslinger sideshow in Atlanta, where Ron Wolf saw the kind of tenacity and loose confidence that teammates rally around
Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Montana and Ken Andersen are all good examples of how the West Coast Offense takes short passing to complement a quick hitting running game, using the Tight End and Running Back positions as main passing targets over locking in on the flankerback, slot back or split end
Quarterbacks who settle into a system like the West Coast offense, where it's not the home run ball, but a detailed passing and running game with timing and training specifically based on quickness and good feet are the right way to establish an NFL passing game with consistency
I'm yet to see a quarterback who didn't get introduced into a system that teaches pure fundamental football before expecting success who was successful in the NFL
What NO ONE mentions about Wilson’s “STELLAR” Junior year is that because of covid rules, all the Pac-12/Big Ten teams cancelled their non-conference games. What that meant was that BYU did not face their most difficult competition in 2020 coinciding with their glorious 11-1 season. In each of 2018/2019, they faced at least 3 ranked teams from those conferences. In 2020, they did not have to play the likes of Wisconsin(2018:6), Utah(2018:18, 2019:12), Washington(2018:11, 2019:22) and USC(2019:24), which they faced at least once in the 2 previous years.
It's a great point, and I have heard it before. Weird how the scouts looked at his numbers as if he was playing in the same context as usual. Pre-covid, he was extremely average. During covid against worse competition, he looked great. But no alarms went off. Probably everyone looking at his football body and Jets fans wanting to move on from Darnold.
exactly
Great explanation, well done. He got hurt last night because his decision making and awareness are horrendous just like you've explained here.
Holy smokes This is the best analysis I have ever seen! You know your football! Excellent! Made me see the light. WoW!
Zach’s mom’s best friend loves this video
teehee!!
This critique was (and remains) totally on point.
The hitting the flat problem will go away. You are dead on with the processing speed though that was always frustrating for me watching him in college. His senior year he was able to make up for it by learning to watch a lot of game tape, but I don't know if that will be enough in the NFL.
He showed that same issue in college, not sure it's just going to go away. May just be his football DNA
@@geraldbrown7192 I don't recall that as an issue in college. I watched every game. I'm sure it happened at some point but I don't think it was regular.
@@sammarchant2703 th-cam.com/video/9CyxRhCL-qs/w-d-xo.html Link to Thinking Footballs video discussing his issues in college
You have to understand the Shanahan system he was asked to run is not easy to learn. I think year 2 in it will give us a real idea of Zach's strengths and weaknesses.
he was a junior
he started to process information faster later into the season in the Tampa game to be specific he didn't even flinch on some of the decision making but early in the season he definitely struggled.
His arm strength is really noticeable in these clips
Spot on and here we are in December 2022 and wilson looks the same
Most of the negative clips are from early season and positive from late. So that’s a good sign
Nobody knows these things better than Zach and it seems like he's had a fire under him all off-season. I'm encouraged that he's been putting in the work by flying out to his WRs, going to Tight End University and hosting a bunch of his guys and Flacco in Idaho, and even putting on like 15 lbs of muscle . With the new weapons and his work ethic, I don't see how he doesn't improve substantially this year.
None of that really matters. Working hard is nice but you can't really improve your processing speed too significantly
@@jeccdog7584 Of course it matters. As you work hard and practice you get better at processing information faster. Recognizing what defenses are throwing at you, when your receivers are going to break open etc becomes second nature. As a guitarist I've learned how to recognize pattern changes during improvisations faster through practicing, making me less likely to make a mistake. His poor play early looked like rookie jitters to me, which is understandable. But to say he has some limit already on his ability to process things at 22 years old is pure horseshit.
@@guitearist did you watch the video you're commenting on? When jets receivers were open zach wilson couldn't find them. It's a him problem. I never said he can't improve or is bust. Comparing him to Herbert is laughable. Stop the cap and excuses@
@@jeccdog7584 It's just common sense. A few plays where he's holding the ball isn't anything to panic about. If he goes out and plays like shit next year then fine, he ain't the guy. To say working hard doesn't matter is just stupid though.
@@guitearist it matters 10 pct for the problem we're talking about. It's one of those skills that can't really be improved on. Once a panicked qb always a panicked qb
It wasn’t too fast for Zach… Jets the only team that gave their rookie QB the entire playbook through trial and error, he had to learn on the go and did pretty well on the second part of the schedule.
Nonsense...🤣🤣🤣
Agreed. Im so sick of these new generation fans quick to call people bust nowadays. Or they just di*kride other players and dont give others a fair shake. I just think the're own lives are a bust so they like to throw 💩 at other's to make up for it.
man misses wide open running backs in the flat sime qb cant skow down the game its to fast for them like wilson
Looked too fast for him against a vanilla preseason defense… I believe in his ability, but I don’t have a lot of faith in him between the ears’
Two things mark the great QB's from the bad ones -- quick processing and accuracy in split second decisions. We can make excuses about the playbook but the fact is he still hasn't shown these traits, consistently. Yeah maybe it 'slows down' for him but I don't think the odds are in his favor. Once you get 'googly eyed' back there, it's very hard to un-googly eye it. At least not to 'elite QB' status.
I think Zach has a chance to be a top-15 QB as long as he can harness some of that recklessness. He's getting some serious talent around him so I do expect him to do well and get at least 6 wins this coming season. I think Lawrence will make the biggest improvement because he had the worst coach and team so it shouldn't be too difficult. Excited for the season to begin.
Yea, but he has a lot of potential, if he went to a better team he could be a josh allen type player. Not at all the skill, but josh allen was poverty at first and then blossomed into something great. If zach wilson were on a good team i think he could have a similar trend/development like josh allen.
*top 5
@@jameshoops10 Let him consistently be in the top 15 first lol. Thats hard enough at this point. Dude could EASILY end up being Derek Carr with better wheels AT BEST. for no other reason than, this ish is hard af to play. You don't just enter the league a really talented dude and the league just go "Oh wow, ur so talented! come sit in the top 5" lol, nope, Ask Josh Allen for example you gotta earn that. He's lucky if hes the 2nd best QB in his division rn and he's not and the guy who is got picked 13-14 picks after him. He better shape up.
@@tvtda1 how many times did you need to see patrick mahomes do what he did after his first playing season to know he was great? plus we’re projecting ceiling
@@jameshoops10 Patrick Mahomes got to sit his 1st year, and avoid many growing pains he would've had, learning in a classroom instead on a better team. The concept a QB can't learn anything from sitting is a lie thats told by people who don't play the position because evidence has proven otherwise historically. Zach shouldn't have been starting his rookie season either. its only served to risk him developing bad habits and mistakes, that he should've had time working out how to avoid making to begin with. Even without all of those other factors, the reality in hindsight was and always has been Patrick is a generational level arm talent. Zach Wilson isn't in his class at the same point of his career. people need to get that comparison out of their heads.Patrick Mahomes is gonna become a consistently lazy comparison most players aren't worthy of particularly zach, granted he has upside. its just that patrick mahomes 1st season he put up 50 touchdowns and was the MVP of the league lol. (i think that was the moment for me lol) Zach's 1st year isn't the end all be all, sometimes you have to have a manning rookie year before you take off. The issue is if his initial evaluation was overblown and overhyped all together due to the competition level he played his last year? That actually seems likely to be honest. My concern is, how far off are evaluators? its not safe to assume he'll grow out of his processing issues or that the game will slow down consistently for him.
You've done a great job of showcasing his skill and downfalls. Zach has some SERIOUS ball in him...I truly hope that Mr. Payton's staff can help him let it all out 🙂
Last year Zack played the same way he played in college... a little erratic at times and always looking for the "big throw" or 40 yard scramble... Needless to say that's not going to cut it in the NFL. Must learn to settle down and play at a nice poised controlled pace, u know, kinda like Davis Mills! Anyway, I think Zack will get it eventually (probably not this season) as it's going to take time... Fans need to be patient as he adjusts his game and works thru adversity. Good luck Zack!
I'm here from the future.
You were right about everything.
Best 'review' I've seen of Zach so far. I watched every game last year and I truly believe in him and his talents. The criticisms are fair, processed things slowly at times, often passed on easy completions searching for big plays and just plain missed check downs and screen passes. This year will be huge for him, I know he has the arm talent to be a plus QB in this league but what really excites me is his athleticism and improv skills. With huge improvements in his weapons/protection, a full offseason with the same staff and the extreme work he put in this offseason..hoping for a BIG leap this year. Great video!
Almost every first year QB struggles in the NFL, especially on a bad team with a rookie HC, OC, and DC. It's year two that will likely tell the tale, how quickly is he processing things after a year in the same system, with the same coaching staff, and improved talent all around him at every level? And if I'm not mistaken, he didn't throw an int for the last five games after he came back from injury. The bread isn't baked yet, let's give it some more time in the oven and see if the dough rises. Ahh thankyou.
Awesome breakdown. I’m going to use some of this footage for my young QB that I coach.
I believe in an interview Zach admitted that prior to getting injured he felt the games was going to fast and he was having trouble trying to catch up. But after watching his three back ups from sideline for four weeks. He notice how fast they were processing the game. The four week injury might’ve been the best thing for him because after that even that Texas game he played much better than prior.
yep, maybe ZW needs to look and learn a little bit
Zach shouldn’t have started out the gate....it was irresponsible of the Jets FO not to have a Vet QB going into the start of the season, to give him time to learn if he needed it. They went young right away and left him as the best option on the roster when he could have benefited from sitting a few games and really learned the offense and also how to prepare to start a NFL game from a vet
That flea flicker play was brutal, he had 2 guys standing wide open right in front of him.
Boy this aged great! Great job!!!
Extremely well done. Zach Wilson is scared to get hit. Not sure if that is fixable. Props for this video, very in depth and detailed.
As a Jets I pretty much agree with your entire assessment. I have high hopes for my boy
womp womp
Once Jets replaced Van Roten at RT with Duvernay-Tardiff, Zach Wilson seemed more calm and poised in the pocket. And I believe he finished with 9 TDs and Just 2 INT over his last 7 games. And didn't throw any INTs in his last five. All that while losing starters on the OL and RBs-WRs. It just gives me hope that with a vastly improved starting cast, Wilson can at least manage the offense way more efficiently. While continuing where he left off at end of last season. Staying calm and poised while not turning the ball over.
True. But he got a little lucky. There were a couple throws that should have been picks but were dropped. I think that stat is more realistically 9 TDs and 4 or 5 INTs. Still an improvement 2nd half of the season though.
@@barneymiller5488 Yea...he got lucky. Probably the only QB in the NFL to have such luck.
Great breakdown. The check downs improved after he came back from injury . My biggest concern is his processing speed. I noticed that because he isn't processing it quick enough, he would through the ball behind receivers at times since the timing is off. Hopefully he fixes that . He has the talent to be top 5 but needs to work on the mental aspect. I think he will figure it out
The mental aspect may be the only thing players can't improve. It's up to the coaches to recognize that and scheme around that limitation. At least until they find a QB who can throw and process things faster.
I think another issue he had last year was hitting receivers in stride. Not sure if that's something you maybe picked up but I feel like on some of even his best throws the WRs had to stop running to get to the ball. Great video!
This aged like fine wine
If we see it you know damn well the d coordinators see it
Excellent breakdown. I just wish it went a step further. Like how many QBs experienced this. How many adapted vs those who did not
He gonna be top 5 Qb in 2 years mark my words
ZW needs to develop a chip onhis shoulder. Like Saleh does too.
Should we wait a bit longer?
All of the processing and decision making was negated in his junior year due to his line. I think he was sacked single digits and if you watch every game 90% of plays not one defender wins against the line. He never had to worry
So basically what you are saying is to give him the No. 1 offensive line in the league and he will own?! Doesn't every QB want that? And how is that making him the franchise QB when his ability is entirely depended on the line?!
@@jonny5370 Im saying any "talent" he showed in college was because he had 10 seconds each play to throw the ball. I don't think he is a playmaker at all.
what hes saying is that it was just something he wasnt used to quite yet as for every rookie qb, he will adjust obviously
@@random_big_g yeah he’s not amazing, but Wilson can throw on the run, really well . Would consider that playmaking
zach wilson will be great next year because he has that dawg in him
Pat fan here -- I am SO stoked for this season. The AFCE alone is going to be incredible to watch.
A common theme on the INTS, which weren't that high actually, is all the receivers covered. They created no separation.
most of the clips seem to show him in shotgun, taking a 7 step drop (including the PAs) or are designed for one to two reads at most (so as to make it simpler for him to process). Was that largely how their playbook ran last year? It really seemed like:
1. He couldn't identify who was Man coverage or if he needed to go to his hot read on the pre-snap
2. Line protection never shifted or adjusted on the presnap leading to the missed rushers
The latter should be either the center or vet linemen calling the shift , but perhaps if they stopped having him 10+ yards from LOS by the time he needs to decide to throw the ball, work on his fundamentals like throwing to the flat under pressure so he can complete those flat and screen passes on a consistent basis, they could do what the Pats did with Brady. The made serious gains in yardage purely by exploiting screen passes from the shotgun and split formation. Mix in PAs and RPOs, and you'd limit his thinking while giving him time to "catch up" speed wise to the NFL level.
Wait but how can you say he escape pressure well and sets his feet and deliver, then 1 min later say he loses it all when any pressure comes?
Wilson is talented, no doubt. But he really has to perform this season. Imo, his roster and what the Jets did for him in free agency is better than what any other team did for their 2021 rookies. He really has no excuses if he doesn't perform to at least a significant improvement on his rookie year. I'm keen to see how it plays out.
This was sooo Good! Brilliant
0:23 can't make this shit up 🤣🤣🤣
He's in Denver now competing against the fastest of processors of all our Oregon beloved QB Dacious Bo NIX
Good analysis here and agree with all the "bad" points as a NYJ fan. Now that it's a more crafted team, Zach really has to show he's learned something. Hopefully he will watching Flacco for a couple weeks recovering.
As a jets fan. Before his injury I wasn’t high on Zach and he definitely had his rookie woes. Yes he has problems with pressure and making the easy throw but his post injury play wasn’t nothin special but promising to where he was more on time and making quick decisions. It has me excited
On the plus side of Wilson, he the better of the last 4 rookie qbs that's started for the Jets. Sam, Geno and Mark. As with any team, health of the team will be the biggest factor.
I can see 8 wins, maybe more with some luck.
There's some truth to this vid on his mechanics, but there's quite a bit more. The NY Jets are a notoriously poorly run club, attract bad coaches. There just aren't any quality coaches to teach him how to elevate his game to NFL level. Also, the Jets are repeating a mistake they made with Darnold. Rather than develop him behind a journeyman/veteran QB (like Josh McCown) they throw the rookie out there to the wolves to get annihilated. Very few clubs develop their QBs anymore.
aside from what others mentioned here... going from near bottom TEs to having one of the best trillos in the league should also help
Great breakdown! I'm a Jets fan so I'm biased, but I think the two major problems will be much better this year, if not 100% fixed. First, the mental stuff.
Maybe he'll never be Manning, Rodgers or Brady with the mental game. But everything I read is about Zach is that he was OVER-Processeing. And that the coaches are telling him to just focus on what he needs to focus on. With Lefluer's clock like precision plays I think that'll help if Zach takes that advice to heart. White & Flacco aren't world beaters. But they played within the scheme. Whereas Zach, in his youth, was trying to do to much. Less is more. If he thinks LESS I think he'll think faster. I think it's why he's better on the broken plays. He's reacting not thinking.
The second thing you talk about, the missed layups, I feel that's more problematic. But it seems that unlike the mental aspect, this CAN be fixed just by working harder. Just repetition. The mental problems might be a hold over from college, but these little flat plays he made at BYU, right? It seems more mechanical, doesn't it? Maybe something the late Knapp could have kept at bay during the season before his untimely passing.
I feel like the coaching staff knows all this. I feel like they're gonna' fix it one way or another during the pre-season. Either coach him up so the errors get reduced, OR simplify the things that are confusing him so he can just play & react as the great athlete everyone knows he is.
My prediction? Not a Mahomes or even Josh Allen type year. But I say he fixes the small stuff, the Mac Jones stuff, and still wows us with the occasional big play. Enough for the Jets to get 8-10 wins and at least be in the chase towards the end of the year. Hope so.
You have accurately nailed everything with Zach. Honestly, I feel like Zach is high upside big project & the Jets coaching staff just isn't good enough to pull it off. Huge mistake to just plug him in as Day 1 starter without forcing him to earn the starting job.
The Jets, very likely, ruined another young QB.
@@frankt7521 What makes it even worst is that they just finished doing an absolutely terrible job developing Darnold.
I'm not saying Darnold could have been good. But the Jets did a terrible job surrounding him with mediocre talent on OLine & WR
100%. Sam would have done better by sitting a year and imagine him with the talent they now have. JD told Sam's parents he would surround him with players. Failed. (injuries didn't help either) The Jets are impatient, as are the fans, to wait for development toward sustainability.
Almost every rookie QB to ever start has the same exact problem with processing plays and defenses slow. The best of them explode and become amazing players in year 2 and at the latest maybe year 3. We’ll see what hes got this season plus his team is definitely better so he’ll have more help.
The guy skipped his senior season to go in the draft and everyone said they never played anyone. No other college team traveled like his team did to play football...nor would they. His NFL QB coach dies. Starts as an NFL with young and questionable players around him and with a new HC and OC also gets hurt and misses games. No one is perfect coming out of the draft. This year will tell who he really is.
Wish the camera was like this on tv, I could actually see the full play. Where did you get this footage?
I think he will be fine. I doubted him coming into the draft but he looked good in practice this year.
Can’t wait for Garrett Wilson to turn him into a beast. The jets coaching is top 5 in the league and they’re starting to get the players to be good. Wouldn’t surprise me if they somehow squeak in the playoffs but it would be hard with how the afc is
Good video. As a Jets fan, I really do hope he takes the next step.
I think there’s one thing you didn’t mention in this video, and it’s that Zach got that DAWG in him
Good QB or not, that is certainly true
Come on man your trying to tell me he got that dawg in him he is a bum. My team is filled with dawgs. The Philadelphia eagles. Dog town here and that Wilson character would be run out of this city. He ain’t no dawg. He ain’t no Jason Kielce lane Johnson Jordan mailata Landon Dickerson Brandon graham jalen carter Jordan Davis reed blankenship Hassan reddick josh sweat Fletcher Cox former dogs Chris long Brian Dawkins Brian Westbrook Jerome brown Reggie white Clyde Simmons Connor Barwin Demeco Ryan’s Malcom Jenkins Asante samuel Seth Joyner Mike quick Fred Barnett Keith Byars Leonard weaver Andre waters Troy Vincent Bobby Taylor Johnrunysn Tra Thomas Jason Peters Brent Celek Zach Ertz and the dog himself Saint Nick himself Nicky Foles
If his decision making process is that slow, he's a backup at best no matter how great his arm talent might be. NFL Defenses are just too good and too fast. Really like your videos by the way. Totally agreed with your analysis of Trevor Lawrence.
this is why i wonder when people hate on qb's not having elite arm talent or athleticism. mental processing can still lead to success. without processing, arm talent is worthless.
Zach Wilson isn't a good quarterback, the fans know this. He's a back-up talent at best, but he's not a quality caliber starter. He's been the most erratic QB despite having more talent surrounding him than Darnold, Geno & others. Mark Sanchez had less offensive talent and still made it work.
that play at 6:00 i think yall are wrong about. Wilson made the right read just didn't hit his mark. Slay probably tips that ball or picks it off and takes it for 6, while his other guy was about 5 yards open. he just has to make that throw.
I would love to see another video on the jets mid season
This video is good in hindsight
And foresight
He was a rookie.
His team was terrible, suffered key injuries, then was more terrible.
The end.
quick releases are crucial
I’m not an analyst or a qb coach but it seems simple to me. He played shitty teams with shitty defenses in college. To draft him number 2 overall and put him in the nfl as a day 1 starter is way above his skill level at the moment. If you got him in later rounds as a project kind of guy maybe he has a shot. We whiffed on Sam Darnold and that put us in a desperate spot for a quarterback and here we are.
Long story short zach is me playing on all madden
I'm a Florida Gators fan. Anthony Richardson has the same problems especially the pitch and catch seemingly easy throws in the flat. His problems can be coached but his rocket arm and physical stature is what makes him a first round pick. He's a Boom or bust for who ever drafts him.
4 games into this season and yeah, this video still rings pretty true. he's struggling on some pass rushing attempts and he's been really poor against the broncos/packers. however, he's not throwing the ball away to secondaries, and he's still limiting turnovers. jets gotta hope he grows because this is still worrisome as a fan. the defense also has been helping out a ton as of late. I hope zach can at least get some TD passes soon, because it's going to become a pressing issue.
update: after zach wilson has been benched, it's clear that he's missing someone like breece hall. he's also regressed as a passer.
I don’t disagree with anything in this video....and as a Jet fan I’m not the highest on Zach, but it’s worth noting that most of the “bad” stuff was in the beginning of the season, and most of the good stuff(minus the Titans game) came after he came back from injury.....I’m not sure why we thought it was a good idea to bring in a gunslinger from BYU to run a Shanahan style WCO.....but there’s still a chance things can slow down and he can improve on his shortcomings....
100. That's exactly the problem. The game is too fast for him.
He got that dawg in him its all good
The whole problem is everybody wants instant success. He was pushed into the starting role FAR to early and his play showed that. Hell even the coaching staff owned up to it. And News flash ALL the rookie QBs struggled!!
Alot of the plays at the end were some awful concepts, play action with max protection, and only 2 or 3 guys in routes and non hot or go's. Just some slant and button hooks.
A good qb coach , gotta teach him to change the play or, signal a 9 on the lone defender wr. Take your chance with a outside the numbers deep route.
Hopefully they clean up the offense.
A great, but frightening breakdown. The raw physical talent is clearly there. But the inability to accurately throw to the flat or check down-some of the easiest throws there are-is a huge red flag. Processing speed may come with experience, but inaccuracy from a clean pocket is just bad.
All of his issues are fixable. Hopefully he can sharpen up on the simple passes
You have a fantastic channel my dude. Wilson has been bailed out so hard by a great defense.
and a great rookie rb
News flash. The game is fast for all rookies, especially at QB. If he has a line, which is still suspect can block, and weapons he didn't have last year,but are supposedly here this year pan out. Let's see what becomes of him, on a team at the bottom for a long time.
Geno Smith will outplay Zach MilfSon again. Next year's draft... "For the 1st selection in the 2023 draft...the JETS select QB ...."
This was an amazing breakdown
Jets can't even find a trade suitor for him right now.
I'm a jets fan & very good analysis breakdown was spot on however rookie headcoach, QB, & Offensive coordinator = Disaster in the NFL when Zach was injured the backup QBs had a better grasp of the offense better than he did down to the 3rd string QB.... Zach was trying to do to much instead of what the defense gives you....when he came back he looked way more comfortable the last 4games without Elijah Moore, & Corey Davis & No Bechton on the O-line....will see with the changes if he improves I believe he will dramatically
It's never always the QB. You have to consider who's offensive scheme he's trying to run, because there are more "phuked" up coaches in the NFL then there are truly great ones. "D'ham" near ever great QB in the history of the NFL ended up with a quality coach. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Drew Bledsoe, Jonathan Mcnabb, Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, you name them... Those guys did not have pure "chitty" offensive minded coaches when they were in the upswing of their careers.
Put Zach Wilson with Andy Reid or Sean Payton (retired ) and watch him floursih. If he can't shine with coaches that good, then he's a bust nutt...it's that simple.
Post injury Zach showed a ton of improvement.
funny how we both break down film at home . i agree with everything you said .
4 months later...
This is all the same criticixim Justin Herbert got. And Wilson's deep ball is just as good as Herbert, Mahomes, or Allen. This is an easy video to make. It throws football out the window and simply looks at slow motion frames of the game. Aint no rookie gonna be perfect. And the game gets a lot better when it's 3rd and 1 instead of 3rd and 6. Or, when it's 2nd and 1, knowing you have a 220lb back that runs a 4.3 to bail you out. Wilson has IT. ...Nice quality video anyway, Solid produciton. I'm subbed now
yeah except Herbert was great as a rookie. Wilson was far from it.
@@jeccdog7584 Difference is that Herbert had Hunter Henry, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and Austin Ekeler. Jets didn’t have any players half as good as one of them
@@cptmactavish3310 I don't want to hear it. Wilson's issues start with him and no finger pointing is gonna help.
@@cptmactavish3310 but realistically even though the chargers had those pieces when Herbert was a rookie. Ekeler was hurt for 4 weeks, Williams had an okay year. Allen was great with Herbert but still got injured and on top of that the chargers o-line was extremely bad in.
JETS fan here, I watched every game, including the 4 games Wilson didn't start. Rookie Mike White threw for 4 TDs and 400 yards against the eventual AFC champs. Josh Johnson and Joe Flacco made the offense look at least competent. One thing Wilson has going for him is he is smart and determined; I'm not counting him out, but right now he is looking up at being rated a "fair" QB.
Zach has cleaned up some of this. But yea, I think he needs to make quicker reads still.