And you could tell, because they were all over the routes. Again thats good coaching, and the Pats don't even have a good staff. For sure the word around the league is, blitz up the middle/ Left side of the line. Last 3 games its been non stop blitz from line backers and Buda Baker in that gap between C, LG, and LT. They know its coming and can't even slow it down.
@jimmy_butlerhe went crazy for 3 consecutive weeks. The highest rated qb in those 3 weeks. I understand it was against bad defenses but a bad defense is a hell of a ton better than any college defense. If he shows that against bad defenses I do believe he can be a starting caliber qb with the right development and team(probably not the bears)
It's important to note that the offensive line had three undrafted free agents, a fifth rounder, and a sixth rounder playing the majority of the game. Bears are 27th in YPC.
Why should this be important for us to note, when Waldron, Flus, and seemingly the rest of the coaching staff clearly aren't? We could still get effective play calls despite this, but we're not getting that! With all the other (supposed) talent on this team, we should be long past noting that the O line sucks, we knew it was going to be the weak link here. Noting that the O-line could be better solves nothing at this stage.
YES, Van Horne 1st, Covert 1st, Thayer 4th, Bortz 8th, Hilgenberg undrafted ( got lucky with him he was an All Pro) Yeah i'm an old sucker but people will get my point.
Some of our players now will be good backups Braxton, Prior (3 rd string) but before we make wholesale player personnel changes we need the staff to go, high draft choices spent on the Offensive line do little if the coaches are out of whack.
This is a VERY real question I’d like legitimately explored..he explains why he wouldn’t at end of video, but does he still have relationships in the league that could get him in? I know it’s politics as much as anything else..
@@jamesd1590 bears just dont want a ego driven person on the team.. all yes men, and tim doesnt seem like hed coach ditka up the joint so... lets hope. if not tim someone who knows wtf they are doing
It seems like too many people in these comments just want a simplistic takeaway like "Caleb Bad", or "Caleb Good". Listen to the breakdowns and analysis, guys. Fields is on the bench in Pittsburgh, and he's not returning to Chicago. Caleb's a rookie, and has an enigma calling his plays and an overwhelmed dead-man-walking head coach. Calm thyselves and let's learn ball. Stop trying to take weird victory laps, when we all want the Bears to play better.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Even the bad throw to DJ was because his footwork was off, but that was because he was coached to do the wrong drop back. Although Waldron had some good plays, a lot do not seem to make sense. So drives are never going to work if 2/3rd of the plays suck, and then maybe the third one is creative. Coach the damn kid right, and stop trying to get so fucking creative. We'll see what happens with the rest of the season without Waldron.
Good advice but remember fans need and deserve the simplistic. When we lose badly and look terrible its natural to be upset. We try to find some rational answer as to why the team they gave their loyalty and reputation to would let them down. They have to have something to cling to in order to justify their loyalty. That for most of us is the anger at the nearest logical target. I had a crazy cousin who would watch baseball on the tv and yell out - throw the curve and when the pitcher threw a fastball that the batter smacked he would yell at the tv and explain to me that he had called for the right pitch and they didn't listen. So the pitcher and the team were idiots. So how the mind works. We want something for our loyalty. If its not wins then it heads.
Thanks for hanging in there, Tim. I look forward to the breakdown every week, though I can't say I'm looking forward to the next 8 weeks of games. So ugly!
lololol. you're hilarious. now you know what its has been like being a Bears fan for the Last 39 years!!!! Thank you for being awesome. You would be the best O.C. the Bears have had in the last 40 years minimum
He was. he was doing it in Pittsburg as well, thats why he got replaced by Wilson. Mooney used to be frustrated playing with Justin, just never said it lol
@@TahitianTreattnot to this level. Caleb is too addicted to proving he’s a pure passer. Justin would’ve turned half these sacks into first down runs. Caleb holds the ball longer than everyone who isn’t Mahomes, Lamar and Bo nix. He’s allowed 19 (half of the total) sacks, on plays where his line “wins”.
On the second play, the reason it’s 3 yards short is because they probably would’ve gone for it on 4th and short and also because they know Caleb wouldn’t have enough time to stand in there. Look at the left tackle get beat.
The very first clip is an obvious situation where Waldron is trying to give Caleb an early check down with room to run. That’s why you have those other routes not dragging defenders into the catch and run path up the sideline or in the middle of the field. At minimum that’s a 7 yard completion with a chance for a chunk play. It’s symptomatic of the larger issue where Caleb is allergic to taking easy throws. That isn’t a concept failure, it’s a failure of Caleb understanding the scope of the call or understanding it and trying to take more.
Love the breakdown Tim ! You need to have Trace Armstrong as your agent to get a foot in Hallas Hall. GM / HC / OC all have Trace Armstrong as their agent. Approved by CEO Warren & of course George McCaskey who will go along with anything.
Kudos Tim for even trying to dissect this mess of a game. I personally never want to see any film from the last three weeks again ever again. So, didn’t watch any of it, but appreciate you still made the effort 👏
Tim i normally roll with your takes. Rb is open with 20yrds of space that's the concept. Now if we're throwing with anticipation which caleb doesn't do Moores open.
Yeah. I think he’s getting hesitant kind of like fields was. Fields had the ability to super extend plays but I think we should bench Caleb and see if Tyson can operate this offense. I think Caleb can still be the future but we need to figure this out
@@brettrollberg4863 Agree. I think Caleb is completely cooked. All of Fields' flaws, nothing that he does remarkably better. At least we were able to see Fields read the coverage well, just not throw. But looking at Caleb's eyes, he looks completely lost and doesn't see the field well at all. DJ, Rome, and Kmet are constantly open, but his eyes are just elsewhere.
Crazy thing is we had some stuff that works. The line was fin whrn we were running and play action from under center. But literally everything goes outside. Everything is predictable. Where were the screens we had clicking so well? Where are the quick slants? Where is anything in the middle to kmet? Absolute garbage coaching. Could i do better? Maybe not. Do we deserve better? 100%
Exactly, not getting coached on his footwork! How about putting him under center and having him learn 3-step no hitch, 5-step no hitch, 5-step hitch, 7-step hitch, and learn the concept of drop separation with speed. Then use those timing concepts out of shotgun which dominates the NFL now.
Tim, when we get some more games under Thomas Brown, I'd be very curious for you to compare Thomas Brown Scheme to the play design and calls in weeks 4-6. Wondering if he has already called plays in the season and this wasn't the first time Shane had already been stripped of play calling responsibilities because objectively looking at it, it doesn't make sense the 3 game stints of completely different concepts and playcalling
We could legitimately have cliff Kingsbury here with experience on the qb, it's actually mind blowing. I think this franchise doesn't hire talented coaches because of unwillingness to let a franchise culture shift, or have a dominant personality that would change the operations of hallas hall. This will be our 3rd QB in 8 years that will have 2 different HCs and OCs.
I've been wondering if they prefer to hire guys who won't/don't want to leave for a HC job. Remember when they had Adam Gase for a year, the offense looked really good, and he left to be the HC in Miami?
@@jonpfiveif true, I think it’s a backwards way of thinking. Always get the best person for the job because they will teach the best which that experience will carry forward with your QB. If they leave, that’s something you can’t control. But to purposely hire someone less competent is just going to hinder your team’s growth. So what if you have a great year and regress a bit the next? At least you got one good year. Instead, you just get a subpar year with incompetent coaching
Great replies and thoughts. Remember - this is Virginia's team. It has to reflect her values. As neither she nor her middling minded son really understand management, human nature, leadership, analytic football etc. They are the silent elders in charge. They harbor no threat to their values. Ditka's bombast I believe really scarred them personally. Their hiring practices totally reflect this. They are also cheap which comes directly from old George himself. He proudly proclaims it so in his autobiography. There never was and there never will be the burning desire to win.
What I dont like about Waldron is when concepts work, are creative, or are well designed. If he was just bad all the time, everytime it would be one thing. He clearly shows an ability to call plays and immediately becomes afraid of anything thst succeeds. Bear down or whatever
THIS is the complication. It’s also the same mentality taken with not firing Eberflus - sometimes the defense is on point…Bears gotta choose to move differently based off principle at this point…no coach in the league get THIS many cat lives/chances
"Chicago is like a whole new universe. It's like as if football never progressed, what would happen?" I spit out my drink dying laughing at this loooooooooool. I hate my team so much
I watched All 22 and I saw Caleb very inaccurate. One thing I saw was way too many plays that had no receivers going in the middle and I don't think anyone knows what a hot route is.
Its all the little things with Caleb that are problematic and add up. The inaccuracy is devastating. Dirting it to DJ underneath takes away a down and yards that are crucial for converting and keeping the chains moving. The horrible placement on that throw to Kmet, throwing behind him, takes yards away. If led properly Kmet has a great chance to convert or even escape the coverage for a first down and plenty more yards. Those lost yards and chain-moving plays add up to no TDs and no points and putting the defense back on the field early.
Some of these concepts *are* questionable, but when Caleb is staring down open receivers and still not throwing the ball, its Waldrons fault? Caleb seems really afraid to make mistakes, and thats likely due to the HC being on the hot seat (for the 3rd year in a row), not the OC failing in these schemes. Theres college windows (basically the receiver is wide open) and NFL windows (needs accuracy, timing, AND velocity) , and unless Caleb sees a college window, he just won’t throw the ball most of the time. We’re not doing him any favors by ignoring these things so we can act like a pack of ravenous wolves chasing ppl out of town. Bears fans have become really toxic lately, and as a fan I really hate it. I said all that to say, Waldron isn’t a bad coach, he’s just mid, and mid coaches don’t thrive in situations where they are set up to fail (lame duck HC, rookie QB, bargain bin O line, lack of depth at most positions besides WR).
Just subscribed, love the channel! How do you feel about your high-value QB having voice #3 in his headset at OC (and all likelihood) HC#2 to start his sophomore campaign? I wouldn't love it, but you see the same stuff in Dallas where McCarthy is calling the right plays and the hype behind the QB leads to disappointment. Caleb's been so supremely talented he's never been coached on the details. You agreed with the concepts a lot here, I guess your gripe is the fact that Caleb isn't being held accountable to change his habits? I just think the expectations for him were way too high based on his college systems.
It’s time to face reality. Caleb is the biggest problem and he is the one making everyone else look horrendous. Are Flus and Walden top tier HC & OC? No. But they are average. Caleb is making them look like they belong at Junior High level. Caleb is not playing like a bad NFL QB. He’s playing like a bad high school QB. He is horrendous and needs to take a long hard look at himself or he is going to go down in history as an all time bust. Clearly his teammates have had enough of him. If you are going to be arrogant you better back it up with quality play. He can’t.
And he's used to being worshipped the past 4-5 years as a can't miss. Now he has to prove himself. Seems to have the physical attributes, but not the head.
It's beyond incredible that this has been the same shit since forever wirh the Bears offense. It honestly never matters who is involved. We always get to this point. How is it even possible that they haven't lucked into a functioning offense in 40 years?
If you get the job, I'll be your assistant... no BS, I believe in you, over these guys. I actually think it's more Eberflus's fault. Even in these examples I see opportunities. But it's like the WR's are just going through the motions. But using Allen to stretch the field alone should be a fireable offense as an OC. He looks about 50 years old. On that last play, if a true burner, like DJ turns the ball upfield Caleb has a good shot over top. But by the time Keenan sees it Caleb is out of time. The problem is you never know when DJ is going to take a play off. They should run scramble drills, or dedicate an hour of practice to 5 on 5 drills... A QB, 3 WR, 1 TE, vs 3 CB, 1 LB, 1 S. maybe 2 oline & 2 rushers chasing Caleb around too... like kids in the backyard. And let them improvise and get on the same page with each other. Learn each other's tendencies. I bet Shannahan does this with Purdy and the SF receivers, like Jennings, and it shows. It's like these guys just run their routes as designed and show 0 ability to adapt and find holes in the zone to slide into. This work is a thousand fold more useful than just running the same patterns over and over as designed. I bet just about ALL competent teams spend time doing this every week. Either we don't, or our receivers have no adaptability whatsoever. Or don't care. It's hard to blame Caleb considering these things, and lack of protection, or support period. Anyone would look shaky and incompetent given his hand. I do believe he's a capable talent. But each week he's in there right now, the harder it'll be for him to recover. He's developing bad tendencies and becoming gun shy. I fear he'll be ruined and go down as just another bust when he can be so much more. But I blame the oline mostly due to injury. He may be best served holding a clipboard right now before he loses his confidence for good. This team has obviously given up on Eberflus. And are now entering the meat of their schedule. I don't care what the records or point +/-'s say. This team has to be at the bottom of the power rankings "right now". They didn't even show a pulse at home against maybe the worst team in the league. It could have easily been 26-3 instead. And that's after a 29-9 brutality where a team averaged around 10 YPC the week before... where the team obviously quit after the TD before halftime. Yet this pathetic fan base will keep blaming all the wrong things, arguing Caleb vs Justin, etc.. Now maybe some of them are young. I do think Poles identified and drafted some good young talent, especially on defense. And I do think Caleb was the right pick... pretty much every GM that didn't already have a top tier franchise QB would have taken him too. However, I never would have given Fields away for basically nothing. I would have kept him and made them compete. But this soft asf generation just doesn't work that way. I mean, it only worked for Montana and Young, or Favre and Rodgers... I'd turn this thing thing around with you.
Instead of standing 5 yards behind center, the qb should stand 15 yards behind center. If you want a running play, you can have a direct snap to a blocking back. We ran that formation in high school, and our qb was sacked once all season, and we had a terrible line. Usain Bolt cannot run 15 yards under 2 seconds.
Bears fired Waldron but now we have our passing game coordinator as the OC. The passing game as been off all season (worked for a few games). Are we sure this will make any difference?
It is interesting watching this after watching the Broncos video. It is obvious that Nix is benefiting from more competent coaching and a game plan that fits him. I'm only 12 minutes in, and it looks like the Bears' OC has no clue what he is doing and/or the game plan is too complex for Williams to digest at this point in his young career. Contrast that with Nix, where it looks like Payton brought him along slowly, let him learn at his pace and is doing better every week. With Shane Waldron out, maybe the Bears can step back, try and fix Williams' mechanics and put in a "small" game plan to get his confidence up and then add more wrinkles to it as he gets more proficient.
How much does the wind in Chicago affect the pass game? I feel like even the away QBs never have big games in Chicago even when we’ve had shitty defenses
When the debate was whether to stick with Fields or draft Williams, for me it was hard. I like Fields, he gave us his all, and he deserved to go somewhere where he had a chance to succeed. That being said, I saw Caleb crying with his mom after the loss to the Huskies and thought "that's a good kid who has done nothing to deserve all of the horrors that await him in Chicago". Like, never once have I ever truly hoped that Williams would succeed here. Even when there was a lot of evidence that he's the real deal, it just makes it all the more tragic that the Bears are going to do what they've done with such consistency that it'd be insane to expect them to do anything else. Maybe they'll prove me wrong someday, but I'm not holding my breath. Hell, I stopped watching the actual games years ago for 2 reasons: 1) Weekends are too short to go out of your way to feel like trash for half of it. It's the same reason I don't get hammered often anymore - and watching the Bears is so much worse, as at least getting hammered is fun. 2) Despite being called the Chicago Bears, they're a privately owned multi-billion dollar business. The exchange is supposed to be they entertain me in exchange for my attention and money, and until they show the interest and ability to fulfill their side of that exchange, it'd be ludicrous for me to feel any obligation to fulfill mine. If they get it together, I'll watch, but there's no reason to subject one's self to this in a world where pro wrestling exists.
That sprint out play looked so awful, I can’t even understand what they were trying to make happen. Was it meant to be a designed QB run with a pass option?
appreciate the content.... bro..... get ahold of poles or warren today.. like, right now right now..help a brotha out frfr. its so painful. we all thought that no way the bears could mess this up with the talent they have on the roster and what do you know, they found a way.. ill drive you around, be your ball boi, carry your bags, change diapers whatever idgaf just make the call lol
My question is..... What has he done exactly to be labeled super talented? His accuracy is suspect. He's not super athletic and his decision making is questionable at times. Other than the OCCASIONAL good throw, I haven't seen much to be impressed with.
This is on King Poles imo. The guy had unlimited resources, both money and picks. The former offensive lineman cant field an o-line?? He picked this staff. Why does he get a pass? That ozempic is going to his brain I think. DEI hire imo when guys like Gruden make TH-cam videos.
I bet Fluse hired OC Wallydum because he wasn’t trying to have Kingsbury’s hair outshine the new Fluse look beard and haircut hype he was getting all offseason.
I hate being a Bears fan. Love your stuff though Tim. Channels like this are making us a more educated fanbase and when the "leadership" at Halas Hall tries to tell us we don't know what we're talking about, we can now say "BS! I've been watching Tim Jenkins!"
Since they’re the owners, they aren’t held to any accountability. Only way the shareholders, aka Bears fans, hold them accountable is stop going to the game, buying Bears merchandise, lower the local television ratings, etc. Unfortunately, that won’t happen.
@@Chitex03 Indeed, the topic of the McCaskey family's record against the Packers is often overlooked by sports media. The McCaskeys have constructed teams that have not fared well against the Packers, and this lack of success is rarely highlighted by reporters.
No, actually he wasn't. And nothing in this video is about Hodge's take on Caleb, But by all means, keep trying. Also, you know he walked that take back, right? He later admitted he hadn't watched all the tape when he made those comments. Be well.
so here's the question: Waldron and his team must be seeing the same tape you're dissecting. How does this incompetence just continue week over week? Are fans right to sometimes think, "geez, even I could do better than X?"
I think coaching staff truly believes that they just aren’t executing. When really the scheme doesn’t match the personnel they have. The o-line is god awful and they continuously keep doing the same old thing week in and week out. Waldron is overthinking himself out of a job.
@@kody3333333 That and ego. It felt like during the 3 game winning streak they changed things up. Quicker plays, more schemes that fit their personal. Then it felt like the Nagy "I didnt come here to run the I formation" situation where Waldron didn't want easy plays he wants to be a creative genius. Caleb is to be blamed too, holding the ball and ignoring the check down. The games they were winning he was check down Charlie and it opened bigger plays. I think the biggest issue is Waldrons been figured out and defenses know whats coming. Cardinals and Pats both were covering everything and blitzing at the perfect time, Pats said they saw tendencies and sniffed out everything.
I used to like the Bears GM Poles, but he has been terrible this year. First he trades Starting QB Justin Fields instead of trading the No. 1 draft pick for a Haul. And on top of that he only got a 6th Round pick. Poles should have got that HAUL and built up the offensive and defensive lines! Then Poles compounded this mistake by drafting the wrong QB. He drafted Caleb Williams, a finger nailed polishing QB who not only has a weak arm, but he is very inaccurate. Poles has set the Bears franchised back ten years, and he needs to be fired!!!
Yep, that sums it up. I have a strong suspicion that Flus does not know offensive concepts, that's why everything that Shane shows him he just says "yep-looks good". Either that or he truly is a pure "yes man" and a push over. Both are bad attribute for a HC.
We already know how this story ends. Coaches fired end of year. New coach hired, much hype, fans spend $$$. The new coaches after a year or two*, decide they don't like Caleb. Caleb traded. New QB comes in. Doesn't live up to expectations. Poles fire. Repeat x100. I feel bad for Caleb with that o-line, but he's already got the defeated look on his face which tells me he's mentally broken just like the dozens of Bears QB's that have come before. He'll be a good Steelers backup one day.
----Caleb is playing like a QB thats played only 9 games. Nothing about him shocks me nor disappoints me. Luckily he isnt turning over the ball while getting sacked 6x per game. I remember when Justin went through this same situation, he used to fumble a lot. I think Caleb will eventually be fine, once he's surrounded by a better culture of coaches and/or teammates. The reason Jayden Daniels is playing great isnt because he's light years ahead of Caleb, its because he's in a more competent system & stable culture. Like Brady said, these rookie QBs should be required to sit for a while (ala Jordan Love)....instead of being thrown into something thats unstable The Bears havent been a stable organization in well over 30 years. ----The issue has always been much deeper than the qb. Thats why when players leave Chicago and go to other teams, they always say things that make it seem like they were depressed while playing here. Eventually something needs to be said about Ryan Poles as well. Because outside of screwing over the Panthers for DJ & the #1 pick, what has he really done to change things? On offense, no move he's made has improved our offense vs the better teams. im not giving up on Poles, because most of what we're seeing now was just put together months ago, but still. something needs to start materializing
Does EberfLose have ultimate say in offensive concepts? Because it quite literally looks like the same dogshite offense they ran last season. I know Waldron is from the same coach tree but holy shit if it doesn't look like the same panic calls, same designs that don't work etc
The patriots admitted in the locker room that they basically knew the plays and where these "concepts" were going. Clown show indeed.....
And you could tell, because they were all over the routes. Again thats good coaching, and the Pats don't even have a good staff. For sure the word around the league is, blitz up the middle/ Left side of the line. Last 3 games its been non stop blitz from line backers and Buda Baker in that gap between C, LG, and LT. They know its coming and can't even slow it down.
It should be completely obvious to them, Mayo was on those Tom Brady Patriots and the Bears are running the same offense Brady did when he was there.
Thanks for hanging with us despite it being a mess, Tim. Appreciate you. It's gonna be a long 8 games until Flus gets fired.
@jimmy_butlerhe went crazy for 3 consecutive weeks. The highest rated qb in those 3 weeks. I understand it was against bad defenses but a bad defense is a hell of a ton better than any college defense. If he shows that against bad defenses I do believe he can be a starting caliber qb with the right development and team(probably not the bears)
It's important to note that the offensive line had three undrafted free agents, a fifth rounder, and a sixth rounder playing the majority of the game. Bears are 27th in YPC.
Why should this be important for us to note, when Waldron, Flus, and seemingly the rest of the coaching staff clearly aren't? We could still get effective play calls despite this, but we're not getting that! With all the other (supposed) talent on this team, we should be long past noting that the O line sucks, we knew it was going to be the weak link here. Noting that the O-line could be better solves nothing at this stage.
YES, Van Horne 1st, Covert 1st, Thayer 4th, Bortz 8th, Hilgenberg undrafted ( got lucky with him he was an All Pro) Yeah i'm an old sucker but people will get my point.
Some of our players now will be good backups Braxton, Prior (3 rd string) but before we make wholesale player personnel changes we need the staff to go, high draft choices spent on the Offensive line do little if the coaches are out of whack.
Ownership can be (must be?) happy they have a cheap O Line!
@@RyanMelyon
That sick comment was great haha. That’s where all us Bears fans are at but I think I’m asymptomatic at this point.
Tim would you be interested in the OC job?
This is a VERY real question I’d like legitimately explored..he explains why he wouldn’t at end of video, but does he still have relationships in the league that could get him in? I know it’s politics as much as anything else..
watch until the end! 😂 if only...
@@jamesd1590 bears just dont want a ego driven person on the team.. all yes men, and tim doesnt seem like hed coach ditka up the joint so... lets hope. if not tim someone who knows wtf they are doing
Each week it hurts more and more
24 years of being a bears fan here… you’re sick from watching them trust me
Bear down man - 59 years and counting. You can take it if I can.
Love the breakdowns, keep up the content
It seems like too many people in these comments just want a simplistic takeaway like "Caleb Bad", or "Caleb Good". Listen to the breakdowns and analysis, guys. Fields is on the bench in Pittsburgh, and he's not returning to Chicago. Caleb's a rookie, and has an enigma calling his plays and an overwhelmed dead-man-walking head coach.
Calm thyselves and let's learn ball. Stop trying to take weird victory laps, when we all want the Bears to play better.
This. 100%
This is exactly what I was thinking. Even the bad throw to DJ was because his footwork was off, but that was because he was coached to do the wrong drop back. Although Waldron had some good plays, a lot do not seem to make sense. So drives are never going to work if 2/3rd of the plays suck, and then maybe the third one is creative. Coach the damn kid right, and stop trying to get so fucking creative. We'll see what happens with the rest of the season without Waldron.
Good advice but remember fans need and deserve the simplistic. When we lose badly and look terrible its natural to be upset. We try to find some rational answer as to why the team they gave their loyalty and reputation to would let them down. They have to have something to cling to in order to justify their loyalty. That for most of us is the anger at the nearest logical target. I had a crazy cousin who would watch baseball on the tv and yell out - throw the curve and when the pitcher threw a fastball that the batter smacked he would yell at the tv and explain to me that he had called for the right pitch and they didn't listen. So the pitcher and the team were idiots. So how the mind works. We want something for our loyalty. If its not wins then it heads.
@@abelincoln6785 You're 100% correct, and also hilarious lol.
@@kenhurst5594 Well said. Here's hoping for some sort of rescue out of this quicksand...
W video bro great watch after a shift, feel better soon 🤝
Thanks for hanging in there, Tim. I look forward to the breakdown every week, though I can't say I'm looking forward to the next 8 weeks of games. So ugly!
Great work!
Wow. Bro. I totally feel your pain. Excellent analysis as always.
Patriots said they saw things on film and knew when we lined up what the play was
lololol.
you're hilarious. now you know what its has been like being a Bears fan for the Last 39 years!!!! Thank you for being awesome. You would be the best O.C. the Bears have had in the last 40 years minimum
I remember the days when everyone would’ve said Justin was holding the ball too long 🤣🤣🤣
He was. he was doing it in Pittsburg as well, thats why he got replaced by Wilson. Mooney used to be frustrated playing with Justin, just never said it lol
@@TahitianTreattand DJ Moore is visibly upset playing with Caleb, just hasn’t vocalized it.
@@TahitianTreattnot to this level. Caleb is too addicted to proving he’s a pure passer. Justin would’ve turned half these sacks into first down runs. Caleb holds the ball longer than everyone who isn’t Mahomes, Lamar and Bo nix. He’s allowed 19 (half of the total) sacks, on plays where his line “wins”.
@@TahitianTreattWilliams needs to get replaced by Bagent
Right he was.
On the second play, the reason it’s 3 yards short is because they probably would’ve gone for it on 4th and short and also because they know Caleb wouldn’t have enough time to stand in there. Look at the left tackle get beat.
The very first clip is an obvious situation where Waldron is trying to give Caleb an early check down with room to run. That’s why you have those other routes not dragging defenders into the catch and run path up the sideline or in the middle of the field. At minimum that’s a 7 yard completion with a chance for a chunk play. It’s symptomatic of the larger issue where Caleb is allergic to taking easy throws. That isn’t a concept failure, it’s a failure of Caleb understanding the scope of the call or understanding it and trying to take more.
100%
Love the breakdown Tim ! You need to have Trace Armstrong as your agent to get a foot in Hallas Hall. GM / HC / OC all have Trace Armstrong as their agent. Approved by CEO Warren & of course George McCaskey who will go along with anything.
Welcome to Bears Fandom. You carry the torch well. Much better than most of us.
I needed this today
Love ya Tim. Strap on a headset and get on that sideline or skybox.
Kudos Tim for even trying to dissect this mess of a game. I personally never want to see any film from the last three weeks again ever again. So, didn’t watch any of it, but appreciate you still made the effort 👏
great content
Love this so much
Tim i normally roll with your takes. Rb is open with 20yrds of space that's the concept. Now if we're throwing with anticipation which caleb doesn't do Moores open.
great analysis. Keep it up
I think the OC is awful! I also think the Caleb holds the ball to long at times and needs to be drilled to take the check down when it’s there.
Yeah. I think he’s getting hesitant kind of like fields was. Fields had the ability to super extend plays but I think we should bench Caleb and see if Tyson can operate this offense. I think Caleb can still be the future but we need to figure this out
@@brettrollberg4863 Agree. I think Caleb is completely cooked. All of Fields' flaws, nothing that he does remarkably better. At least we were able to see Fields read the coverage well, just not throw. But looking at Caleb's eyes, he looks completely lost and doesn't see the field well at all. DJ, Rome, and Kmet are constantly open, but his eyes are just elsewhere.
@@brettrollberg4863u do not bench ur first pick that would be really bad mess with his confidence
@@padflashu just watch a 30 min where do u see everyone open at fields can’t read defense
Appreciate this breakdown. Just don’t understand why we can’t adjust our play calling when we have injuries up front.
Tim, God bless you! The secret is there things give up about this time every year anyways. don’t get worked up too much as we are used to it
Crazy thing is we had some stuff that works. The line was fin whrn we were running and play action from under center. But literally everything goes outside. Everything is predictable. Where were the screens we had clicking so well? Where are the quick slants? Where is anything in the middle to kmet? Absolute garbage coaching. Could i do better? Maybe not. Do we deserve better? 100%
I was just thinking when's the last time Swift got a screen, granted this line is so bad they probably couldn't block it anyway
Exactly, not getting coached on his footwork! How about putting him under center and having him learn 3-step no hitch, 5-step no hitch, 5-step hitch, 7-step hitch, and learn the concept of drop separation with speed. Then use those timing concepts out of shotgun which dominates the NFL now.
The bears need you Tim your our only hope
Now now Tim, (Biscuits) 😂 and Happy belated birthday to your girl. Thanks for the film 🎬 breakdown
Tim, when we get some more games under Thomas Brown, I'd be very curious for you to compare Thomas Brown Scheme to the play design and calls in weeks 4-6. Wondering if he has already called plays in the season and this wasn't the first time Shane had already been stripped of play calling responsibilities because objectively looking at it, it doesn't make sense the 3 game stints of completely different concepts and playcalling
We could legitimately have cliff Kingsbury here with experience on the qb, it's actually mind blowing. I think this franchise doesn't hire talented coaches because of unwillingness to let a franchise culture shift, or have a dominant personality that would change the operations of hallas hall. This will be our 3rd QB in 8 years that will have 2 different HCs and OCs.
I've been wondering if they prefer to hire guys who won't/don't want to leave for a HC job. Remember when they had Adam Gase for a year, the offense looked really good, and he left to be the HC in Miami?
@@jonpfiveif true, I think it’s a backwards way of thinking. Always get the best person for the job because they will teach the best which that experience will carry forward with your QB. If they leave, that’s something you can’t control. But to purposely hire someone less competent is just going to hinder your team’s growth. So what if you have a great year and regress a bit the next? At least you got one good year. Instead, you just get a subpar year with incompetent coaching
Great replies and thoughts. Remember - this is Virginia's team. It has to reflect her values. As neither she nor her middling minded son really understand management, human nature, leadership, analytic football etc. They are the silent elders in charge. They harbor no threat to their values. Ditka's bombast I believe really scarred them personally. Their hiring practices totally reflect this. They are also cheap which comes directly from old George himself. He proudly proclaims it so in his autobiography. There never was and there never will be the burning desire to win.
@@abelincoln6785 George McKaskey? Or George Halas?
What I dont like about Waldron is when concepts work, are creative, or are well designed. If he was just bad all the time, everytime it would be one thing. He clearly shows an ability to call plays and immediately becomes afraid of anything thst succeeds. Bear down or whatever
THIS is the complication. It’s also the same mentality taken with not firing Eberflus - sometimes the defense is on point…Bears gotta choose to move differently based off principle at this point…no coach in the league get THIS many cat lives/chances
Should have kept Fields and traded for the haul.
That play you question where they went 7 yards was because they accepted 4 down territory.
"Chicago is like a whole new universe. It's like as if football never progressed, what would happen?"
I spit out my drink dying laughing at this loooooooooool. I hate my team so much
I’ve done the birthday at Main Event as well, and brought home the plague. 😂
Tim, thank you.
I watched All 22 and I saw Caleb very inaccurate. One thing I saw was way too many plays that had no receivers going in the middle and I don't think anyone knows what a hot route is.
Bingo - exactly
I’m grateful for your content because if you weren’t here I’d just be alone with my suffering not understand why.
Commenting for the algorithm. Awesome breakdown!
Tim... please come and deliver us from the endless purgatory of this Bears offensive ineptitude...
Its all the little things with Caleb that are problematic and add up. The inaccuracy is devastating. Dirting it to DJ underneath takes away a down and yards that are crucial for converting and keeping the chains moving. The horrible placement on that throw to Kmet, throwing behind him, takes yards away. If led properly Kmet has a great chance to convert or even escape the coverage for a first down and plenty more yards. Those lost yards and chain-moving plays add up to no TDs and no points and putting the defense back on the field early.
Kmet did get the first down
Some of these concepts *are* questionable, but when Caleb is staring down open receivers and still not throwing the ball, its Waldrons fault? Caleb seems really afraid to make mistakes, and thats likely due to the HC being on the hot seat (for the 3rd year in a row), not the OC failing in these schemes. Theres college windows (basically the receiver is wide open) and NFL windows (needs accuracy, timing, AND velocity) , and unless Caleb sees a college window, he just won’t throw the ball most of the time. We’re not doing him any favors by ignoring these things so we can act like a pack of ravenous wolves chasing ppl out of town. Bears fans have become really toxic lately, and as a fan I really hate it. I said all that to say, Waldron isn’t a bad coach, he’s just mid, and mid coaches don’t thrive in situations where they are set up to fail (lame duck HC, rookie QB, bargain bin O line, lack of depth at most positions besides WR).
Question, I see Caleb checking plays that end up getting busted. Is he overthinking or checking into a bad play?
Just subscribed, love the channel! How do you feel about your high-value QB having voice #3 in his headset at OC (and all likelihood) HC#2 to start his sophomore campaign? I wouldn't love it, but you see the same stuff in Dallas where McCarthy is calling the right plays and the hype behind the QB leads to disappointment. Caleb's been so supremely talented he's never been coached on the details. You agreed with the concepts a lot here, I guess your gripe is the fact that Caleb isn't being held accountable to change his habits? I just think the expectations for him were way too high based on his college systems.
As a Bears fan who had Grandkids over who got me sick, I can definitely say it was both
It’s time to face reality. Caleb is the biggest problem and he is the one making everyone else look horrendous. Are Flus and Walden top tier HC & OC? No. But they are average. Caleb is making them look like they belong at Junior High level. Caleb is not playing like a bad NFL QB. He’s playing like a bad high school QB. He is horrendous and needs to take a long hard look at himself or he is going to go down in history as an all time bust. Clearly his teammates have had enough of him. If you are going to be arrogant you better back it up with quality play. He can’t.
And he's used to being worshipped the past 4-5 years as a can't miss. Now he has to prove himself. Seems to have the physical attributes, but not the head.
Truth
@@55van86 Truth
It's beyond incredible that this has been the same shit since forever wirh the Bears offense. It honestly never matters who is involved. We always get to this point. How is it even possible that they haven't lucked into a functioning offense in 40 years?
If you get the job, I'll be your assistant... no BS, I believe in you, over these guys. I actually think it's more Eberflus's fault. Even in these examples I see opportunities. But it's like the WR's are just going through the motions. But using Allen to stretch the field alone should be a fireable offense as an OC. He looks about 50 years old. On that last play, if a true burner, like DJ turns the ball upfield Caleb has a good shot over top. But by the time Keenan sees it Caleb is out of time. The problem is you never know when DJ is going to take a play off.
They should run scramble drills, or dedicate an hour of practice to 5 on 5 drills... A QB, 3 WR, 1 TE, vs 3 CB, 1 LB, 1 S. maybe 2 oline & 2 rushers chasing Caleb around too... like kids in the backyard. And let them improvise and get on the same page with each other. Learn each other's tendencies. I bet Shannahan does this with Purdy and the SF receivers, like Jennings, and it shows. It's like these guys just run their routes as designed and show 0 ability to adapt and find holes in the zone to slide into. This work is a thousand fold more useful than just running the same patterns over and over as designed. I bet just about ALL competent teams spend time doing this every week. Either we don't, or our receivers have no adaptability whatsoever. Or don't care.
It's hard to blame Caleb considering these things, and lack of protection, or support period. Anyone would look shaky and incompetent given his hand. I do believe he's a capable talent. But each week he's in there right now, the harder it'll be for him to recover. He's developing bad tendencies and becoming gun shy. I fear he'll be ruined and go down as just another bust when he can be so much more. But I blame the oline mostly due to injury. He may be best served holding a clipboard right now before he loses his confidence for good.
This team has obviously given up on Eberflus. And are now entering the meat of their schedule. I don't care what the records or point +/-'s say. This team has to be at the bottom of the power rankings "right now". They didn't even show a pulse at home against maybe the worst team in the league. It could have easily been 26-3 instead. And that's after a 29-9 brutality where a team averaged around 10 YPC the week before... where the team obviously quit after the TD before halftime.
Yet this pathetic fan base will keep blaming all the wrong things, arguing Caleb vs Justin, etc.. Now maybe some of them are young. I do think Poles identified and drafted some good young talent, especially on defense. And I do think Caleb was the right pick... pretty much every GM that didn't already have a top tier franchise QB would have taken him too. However, I never would have given Fields away for basically nothing. I would have kept him and made them compete. But this soft asf generation just doesn't work that way. I mean, it only worked for Montana and Young, or Favre and Rodgers...
I'd turn this thing thing around with you.
Instead of standing 5 yards behind center, the qb should stand 15 yards behind center. If you want a running play, you can have a direct snap to a blocking back. We ran that formation in high school, and our qb was sacked once all season, and we had a terrible line. Usain Bolt cannot run 15 yards under 2 seconds.
Bears fired Waldron but now we have our passing game coordinator as the OC. The passing game as been off all season (worked for a few games). Are we sure this will make any difference?
How did you get past the first drive?? I couldn't when I first watched the film.
It is interesting watching this after watching the Broncos video.
It is obvious that Nix is benefiting from more competent coaching and a game plan that fits him. I'm only 12 minutes in, and it looks like the Bears' OC has no clue what he is doing and/or the game plan is too complex for Williams to digest at this point in his young career. Contrast that with Nix, where it looks like Payton brought him along slowly, let him learn at his pace and is doing better every week. With Shane Waldron out, maybe the Bears can step back, try and fix Williams' mechanics and put in a "small" game plan to get his confidence up and then add more wrinkles to it as he gets more proficient.
How much does the wind in Chicago affect the pass game? I feel like even the away QBs never have big games in Chicago even when we’ve had shitty defenses
When the debate was whether to stick with Fields or draft Williams, for me it was hard. I like Fields, he gave us his all, and he deserved to go somewhere where he had a chance to succeed. That being said, I saw Caleb crying with his mom after the loss to the Huskies and thought "that's a good kid who has done nothing to deserve all of the horrors that await him in Chicago".
Like, never once have I ever truly hoped that Williams would succeed here. Even when there was a lot of evidence that he's the real deal, it just makes it all the more tragic that the Bears are going to do what they've done with such consistency that it'd be insane to expect them to do anything else.
Maybe they'll prove me wrong someday, but I'm not holding my breath. Hell, I stopped watching the actual games years ago for 2 reasons:
1) Weekends are too short to go out of your way to feel like trash for half of it. It's the same reason I don't get hammered often anymore - and watching the Bears is so much worse, as at least getting hammered is fun.
2) Despite being called the Chicago Bears, they're a privately owned multi-billion dollar business. The exchange is supposed to be they entertain me in exchange for my attention and money, and until they show the interest and ability to fulfill their side of that exchange, it'd be ludicrous for me to feel any obligation to fulfill mine. If they get it together, I'll watch, but there's no reason to subject one's self to this in a world where pro wrestling exists.
I was at the game. I got food poisoning during the second quarter. little did I know, it was actually from the gameplay
So what's worse. The playcalling or the O-line?
No one can destroy promise in a young QB like the Bears. I'm hoping this is fixable, but I'm not optimistic.
They wore Tim down and made him say the F word. THEY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING!
Bro, welcome to the life of a Bears fan
That sprint out play looked so awful, I can’t even understand what they were trying to make happen. Was it meant to be a designed QB run with a pass option?
please please please take the job if offered love the videos man!
appreciate the content.... bro..... get ahold of poles or warren today.. like, right now right now..help a brotha out frfr. its so painful. we all thought that no way the bears could mess this up with the talent they have on the roster and what do you know, they found a way.. ill drive you around, be your ball boi, carry your bags, change diapers whatever idgaf just make the call lol
I think the question on lots of Bear fan's minds is... are they ruining Caleb? Or are the bad things fixable with a more competent coaching staff?
My question is..... What has he done exactly to be labeled super talented? His accuracy is suspect. He's not super athletic and his decision making is questionable at times. Other than the OCCASIONAL good throw, I haven't seen much to be impressed with.
He was ripe before the competition then plateaued
This game is old school comfort food for bears fans. Hi expectations are so stressful
This is on King Poles imo. The guy had unlimited resources, both money and picks. The former offensive lineman cant field an o-line?? He picked this staff. Why does he get a pass? That ozempic is going to his brain I think. DEI hire imo when guys like Gruden make TH-cam videos.
Fire Flus
I bet Fluse hired OC Wallydum because he wasn’t trying to have Kingsbury’s hair outshine the new Fluse look beard and haircut hype he was getting all offseason.
I'm just praying the Bears/Waldron/Flus are just trolling the NFC North. Saving all the quality football for divisional games.
how did you get these on hudl?
I hate being a Bears fan. Love your stuff though Tim. Channels like this are making us a more educated fanbase and when the "leadership" at Halas Hall tries to tell us we don't know what we're talking about, we can now say "BS! I've been watching Tim Jenkins!"
8:19 😂 it happened. hopefully it helps, but I'm not going to hold my breath,.
The McCaskeys have constructed a team that is currently underperforming, why is the critical evaluations of their decisions?
Since they’re the owners, they aren’t held to any accountability. Only way the shareholders, aka Bears fans, hold them accountable is stop going to the game, buying Bears merchandise, lower the local television ratings, etc.
Unfortunately, that won’t happen.
@@Chitex03 Indeed, the topic of the McCaskey family's record against the Packers is often overlooked by sports media. The McCaskeys have constructed teams that have not fared well against the Packers, and this lack of success is rarely highlighted by reporters.
Merrill Hodge was 100% correct on his analysis of Caleb Williams.
What did he say ?
@larrywillard9316 Why not Google Merrill Hodge/ Caleb Williams?
No, actually he wasn't. And nothing in this video is about Hodge's take on Caleb, But by all means, keep trying. Also, you know he walked that take back, right? He later admitted he hadn't watched all the tape when he made those comments. Be well.
@@larrywillard9316 He said Justin Fields was a Pro Bowl QB and would yield two 1st rounders in a trade. I may be incorrect on the exact quote...
First clip everyone is fucking NFL open. I’m done.
For the algorithm
so here's the question: Waldron and his team must be seeing the same tape you're dissecting. How does this incompetence just continue week over week? Are fans right to sometimes think, "geez, even I could do better than X?"
I think coaching staff truly believes that they just aren’t executing. When really the scheme doesn’t match the personnel they have. The o-line is god awful and they continuously keep doing the same old thing week in and week out. Waldron is overthinking himself out of a job.
@@kody3333333 That and ego. It felt like during the 3 game winning streak they changed things up. Quicker plays, more schemes that fit their personal. Then it felt like the Nagy "I didnt come here to run the I formation" situation where Waldron didn't want easy plays he wants to be a creative genius.
Caleb is to be blamed too, holding the ball and ignoring the check down. The games they were winning he was check down Charlie and it opened bigger plays. I think the biggest issue is Waldrons been figured out and defenses know whats coming. Cardinals and Pats both were covering everything and blitzing at the perfect time, Pats said they saw tendencies and sniffed out everything.
In the first play. Are there only 10 players?
Tim you looking to relocate to lake Forrest and work for a dysfunctional organization with a ton of upside?
New OC will be the same, He is working under Waldron
Main Event. Do u live in Texas? I’ve got one of them close to me
When will the pain end
poor Tim cant even imagine what it's actually like to have had to deal with this shit for decades LOL
What i don't get is the fact that the OC isn't exactly a rookie coach. Did he get stupid as soon as he entered Halas Hall, or is it on Williams?
idk why we wouldnt of went with kingsbury when him and caleb already have a connection.....
I used to like the Bears GM Poles, but he has been terrible this year. First he trades Starting QB Justin Fields instead of trading the No. 1 draft pick for a Haul. And on top of that he only got a 6th Round pick. Poles should have got that HAUL and built up the offensive and defensive lines!
Then Poles compounded this mistake by drafting the wrong QB. He drafted Caleb Williams, a finger nailed polishing QB who not only has a weak arm, but he is very inaccurate.
Poles has set the Bears franchised back ten years, and he needs to be fired!!!
What I dont get is the picture in picture.
Yep, that sums it up. I have a strong suspicion that Flus does not know offensive concepts, that's why everything that Shane shows him he just says "yep-looks good". Either that or he truly is a pure "yes man" and a push over. Both are bad attribute for a HC.
I am Sad, Tim. *SAD BEAR NOISES*
Its the Fingernail Polish 😂
We already know how this story ends. Coaches fired end of year. New coach hired, much hype, fans spend $$$. The new coaches after a year or two*, decide they don't like Caleb. Caleb traded. New QB comes in. Doesn't live up to expectations. Poles fire. Repeat x100.
I feel bad for Caleb with that o-line, but he's already got the defeated look on his face which tells me he's mentally broken just like the dozens of Bears QB's that have come before. He'll be a good Steelers backup one day.
----Caleb is playing like a QB thats played only 9 games. Nothing about him shocks me nor disappoints me. Luckily he isnt turning over the ball while getting sacked 6x per game. I remember when Justin went through this same situation, he used to fumble a lot. I think Caleb will eventually be fine, once he's surrounded by a better culture of coaches and/or teammates. The reason Jayden Daniels is playing great isnt because he's light years ahead of Caleb, its because he's in a more competent system & stable culture. Like Brady said, these rookie QBs should be required to sit for a while (ala Jordan Love)....instead of being thrown into something thats unstable The Bears havent been a stable organization in well over 30 years.
----The issue has always been much deeper than the qb. Thats why when players leave Chicago and go to other teams, they always say things that make it seem like they were depressed while playing here. Eventually something needs to be said about Ryan Poles as well. Because outside of screwing over the Panthers for DJ & the #1 pick, what has he really done to change things? On offense, no move he's made has improved our offense vs the better teams. im not giving up on Poles, because most of what we're seeing now was just put together months ago, but still. something needs to start materializing
Does EberfLose have ultimate say in offensive concepts? Because it quite literally looks like the same dogshite offense they ran last season. I know Waldron is from the same coach tree but holy shit if it doesn't look like the same panic calls, same designs that don't work etc
Worst OC performance ever! Thanks, Tim. After spending the last 3 outta 4 days digging out of snow and catching a cold, too. I feel ya.