Can You Criticize the Clergy...Even the Pope?
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Fr. Gerald Murray sits down with Dr. Scott Hahn to discuss how to voice concerns to members of the clergy.
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Rational understanding of the Gospel should never be cast aside simply because an authority contradicts it - Fr Gerald thank you for this important insight!!! 👍👍👍
If that's really the case the one should be Protestant.
Thank you for speaking on this. Prayers for the both of you.
I see you everywhere.
Love Fr. Gerald,and Dr. Scott Hahn...Holy men!! Thank you Lord...❤❤❤
Sts. Paul and Catherine of Siena are excellent examples here. They were both willing to speak up, but with loyalty and faith.
St. John Vianney, St. John Bosco, Fulton Sheen, St. Peter Damian, Saint Augustine, St. Mary of Egypt,
St. Catherine of Siena, St. Aloysius Gonzaga, pray for us.
Oh yes! + Peter Damien fought the problem, yes.
Dr. Hahn does a great job with this topic!
Fr. Gerald is a champion and I respect him so much. Thank you for this video.
Telling the priest to go to confession isn't going to change his evil belief. He needs to be removed ASAP.
Father Murray ALWAYS answers truthfully, always. The Gordons are not at his level, they are opportunists.
@@DefendersOfWomen Try and find any Bishop to remove him. Good luck with that. The Bishops will be removed sometime in the future. Jesus will call upon the Holy Ghost to purify His Church. For sure!
Amen!!!
@@DefendersOfWomen You need to understand Fr Murray, but a Canon Lawyer.
God bless Fr. Murray and Dr. Hahn
I am recently re-converted due to witnessing how a distorted indoctrination lead my father into darkness and self-destruction. I've had to start from scratch and learn what is God's natural order. I see now the world around me in severe disorder. What is challenging to pray for is the lack of courage from our church leaders to call out the secular world on its disorder and be the resistance against the flow of souls to hell. Over and over again I see them pussyfoot around topics instead of clearly defining what is disorder and what is the path of love to God's order. I will continue though and pray for the holy spirit to help them have the consciousness of their position and courage to be disliked by the world.
God Bless you on opening your heart to God and for the Holy Spirit to fill you with truth. I pray you strengthen your faith and trust in God 🙏
@@tony1685 😂😂😂 you don't know much about Catholicism if you think that! A Spanish saying says it all "Catolico ignorante, seguro protestante" Read the history of Protestantism & Lutheranism and see for yourself. There's much in the history books you'll never hear about Luther, the so called 95 theses and the real reasons for the split from the Church -- the Church Jesus Christ Himself sent out to bear his real presence in the world. And please do not equate false sheperds and infiltrators (who have always been a problem since the church began) with the real followers of Christ in the Holy Catholic Church, of which, there are still millions.
@@elizuniga5442 Thank you Eli. The darkness and sinfulness of my life is what introduced me to the great magnitude of God's mercy and love. He's unwillingness to release ownership of me as his loved son even when I chose darkness has humbled me greatly and has left me with the simple yet deep desire to love him back through my vocation of marriage.
@@tony1685 My brother. I would have to say that I both agree and disagree with you.
I agree in that the progressive clergy that has been mostly formatted since Vatican 2 have distorted our doctrine and has led many away from the core principles and teachings of my King Jesus.
I disagree though that it's the doctrine itself. In my journey of relearning the original order God established as creator, I found no other doctrine that provides the structure for a connection and fulfillment of his order in my life like the Catholic church. It's sacraments have been the foundation of my reconversion. The difference now is that I follow the example of Saints that understood, accepted and practiced our doctrine in what is currently called a "traditional" way. Ironically enough, the more traditional I become, the more I seem radical to the secular world's conditioned belief and thinking 😂
@@tony1685 John 17:18 clearly states who was commissioned. And you might also want to consider 17:21 before making such derisive comments about Catholics. Also, exactly what version of the Word of Truth are you referring to? It's obviously NT, but what version?
I'd love to have this entire conversation.
Thank you father for your true,comforting,and reassuring message. It is the message that our church has always upheld. Your calm and respectful approach is so dignified as a representative of our faith.
This issue demands a careful approach. Well done!
What a great representation of a real Catholic Priest.
I heard him say in another video clip that he was mostly Irish.
My grandmother was from Ireland.
I don't know anything about him but he's what I'd like t think of as a great example of a Catholic Priest.
Encouraging Evil is the same as doing it. True directions are what is needed always.
@@tony1685 it’s not Catholic teaching, it’s the PEOPLE who are evil. The CHURCH JESUS started is beautiful and if everyone really followed it, it would be beautiful. We are all sinful, only Jesus was perfect. He gave us HIS Church to help us, even though we make mistakes. That’s why we have confession.
@@tony1685 remember you are not perfect! No one is.
@@ValsVersion I’m glad your perfect.
@@tony1685 what system? He started HIS church. He was Hebrew, who WORSHIPPED God and he became the Sacrifice on the Altar, instead of all the Lambs the Hebrew brought to the Temple to be sacrificed. Read and study, go to school, educate yourself.
@@tony1685 read John 6. In the beginning, was the word (GOD) and the word was with God and the word is GOD. Jesus is THE WORD MADE FLESH. Get it! There is a good book, study, called Fulfilled by Sonia Corbitt. . It will help you.
The faithful need to tell our fathers the bishops when they stray. Yet we are ignored and priests are persecuted like Joan of Arc was persecuted.
Christ was ignored. He tells us to expect what He received.
I pray Scott will be more vocal about the sin in our hierarchy. We won’t scare young men. It would be a call to arms, to protect and defend the house of Christ.
When the top HIERARCHY of the Church preach against
The teaching of the APOSTLES
WE MUST CORRECT THEM . OR WE ARE NOT
DEFENDING OUR BLESSED LORD
A. M. D. G. AMEN
Refreshing, wonderfully humorous and makes the point. I applaud the lady at the confessional.
God Bless You Both! This is exactly what we need to hear! Holy Mother Church is in a mess! We need to pray for the Church the Holy Father and the Bishops priests ect......
And resist them to their face.
There’s a reason the Holy Spirit left that story of Paul resisting Peter in the Holy Scriptures. There will always be wicked man among us, and when they seek to destroy the faith and the faith of the masses, the body of Christ must defeat them.
Yes we pray for them, while we resist them publicly and consistently. Otherwise it is all in vain. Christ will spit us out of his mouth as lukewarm mealymouthed people who just went along because we were told to.
Some priest are leaving thier ministry "no" just do your ministry and pray slways with Mama Mary and everything will be find.
With a lot of respect! You guys are awesome. Thanks! Amen! Muchas gracias!
Father Gerald gives me hope🙏🕊😇
I think that'll be my new prayer for The Church - Lord, calm the storm, and help us to be faithful. Ave Maria, ora pro nodis 🙏
calm the storm with Knowledge. If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
Dio abbi pieta di noi!
Stay a simple catholic christian, who is following Christ- with ALL your heart - don’t judge, stay clear and stay in his love. Really we should no one wish bad... so many sheep’s are lost - we should be always in SORRY, stay under Mary and pray THE ROSARY 💒
Thank you, I needed to see this
Exposing evil is not "judging" , judging the soul is judging. Jesus judged and told us to expose evil deeds. Or was he being "judgemental" when he called the pharisees a "brood of vipers" among other things, or when he used the whip on those who defiled the temple? I pray my daily Rosary, the Breviary go to week-day Holy Massd, and when I see evil committed I do not remain silent, otherwise I will be guilty as well.
Love these two, too! 🙏🏻✝️
God bless your ministry!
Thank for you two!
Great video..thank you Dr . Hahn and the St Paul centre.
Fr Gerald and Scott Hahn together!!!! Wish your conversation was at least an hour long. Catholic meat and potatoes.
Thank you both!
I can honestly say that I never thought I would leave priestly ministry but left because of a few really dangerous and toxic people. Very few. I tried my best to teach my flock and feed them but there are always a few that think they run the parish and their needs are always to see themselves glorified for the work they do and have their names put on buildings etc. There are some dangerous people in the pews and the bishops do not want to help priests who are destroyed in their path. People are allowed to make things up and say all kinds of things about their priests. I pray for my brother priests ever day and will never return. I was ordained to preach the Gospel, not to make a couple of people on a building committee happy. Unless the atmosphere changes, the Church will be filled not with zealous priests, but politicians. Too many of us have been cancelled.
@@tony1685 what does that mean ?
@@tony1685 thanks
@@francanarsie, ignore tony, he trolls Catholic TH-cam channels and spreads the lies of his 7th day adventist cult.
@@brucebarber4104 Thanks, really funny, I had a teacher named Bruce Barber in junior high school. I figured that out when I looked up the Scripture versus. It is so sad they know nothing of the history of the Church and that the Apostles willed Sunday after the Lord's command.
Get up, stand up, stop whinging and do your job.
You are ordained, a Priest forever, like Melchizedek of old.
You are indelibly marked as a Priest, get back to your faith, even if it’s in a closed order, but please, no more of this drivel.
May the Peace and the Joy of Our Lord Jesus Christ, be with you always!
Thank you for this video. I hope that some otherwise good Catholics will listen and heed it when it comes to objectively critiquing statements and actions of our Church hierarchy, all the way up to the top.
The laity indeed arent supposed to be unreactive receptors: the hierarchy does not seem to be listening that many are indeed leading the sheep astray in the name of everything , including a false merciy
Barbara M-P - True but we Catholic can never leave the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Where would we go? to a man made "Christian" church ? We have to wait until our Lord Corrects His Church. Our Church has been around for over 2,000 years, it is the oldest institution on Earth. Stay put and pray, hope and don't worry. Jesus would never abandon His Church. God bless you bothers and sisters in Christ.
V2 speaks of the priesthood of the laity which is based on the fact that all those baptized receive not only sanctifying grace, but also a character, or indelible mark, in their souls by which they are conformed to Christ as priest, prophet and king. Vatican II reminded Catholics that all the faithful are truly priests through baptism, but their priesthood differs from the ministerial priesthood in its essence “and not only in degree” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium, No. 10). Yet, “the one is ordered to the other” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 1547).
So obedient to 2000 years of Magisterial teaching is necessary. If the ministerial priest is wrong, it is important and necessary for the laity to exhort and call out the errant clergy.
This is just the Protestant heresy of the 'priesthood of all believers', advocated by Luther and then abandoned by him in the late 1520s when it was clear it could not work and only led to more heresy. Laymen are called to become priests but are not in themselves priests and have no authority as such until consecrated. VII promoted such errors and we have suffered the consequences. The laity, however, are obligated to oppose evil, whether it is practiced by a priest, bishop or pope. It is incumbent on the Cathic to defend the Faith against errors, heresy, schism and apostasy. As Bergoglio and his acolytes fall into all of these crimes, then they cannot be obeyed.
@@patrickparsons2378 V2 liberates the laity from blind obedience to the clergy. Without which, you would have to obey Pope Francis 100% instead of writing dissenting comments against him like now.
VCII is a trainwreck, look at the aftermath. "You shall know them by their fruits", think. VCII discarded the Complete Historical Magisterium. VCII discarded the Complete and Truthful Gospel. Yes, it is read at Mass - but the dire instruction, condemnations, warnings, and commands are ignored in the Homilies. Please! Holy Mother Church is True, Perfect; but the institutional Church, the Episcopate has been corrupted.
The Bishops do as they please, it is not good. Benedict himself was repulsed by the "filth" in the Church. Men like Scott Hahn will "tell" us all about VCII, but they will not debate it openly with knowledgeable Catholics. They will not discuss all the scandal and deceit in the Church.
Pray, Pray, Pray - and tell the Truth, shame the devil.
@@jamesnielsen3095
Do you believe
1. That the Magisterium doesn't err because Jesus gave them the power to bind and loose ? Whatever you bind/loosen will be bound/loosen in heaven ie back up by heaven
2. Jesus gave the keys to the Kingdom to Peter
3. Hell will not prevail against the Catholic Church
4. Jesus gave the Church the authority to teach and He will be with the Church till the end of time in Matt 28:20
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of time.
5. Do you still believe in Jesus and the Apostles even though they had Judas ?
If your answer is No to all 5 questions then go be a Protestant.
If your answer is Yes to all 5 question, then please stop complaining about V2. The Magisterium approved V2 documents. Doctrinally, they are sound but the execution is poor and some of it hijacked and adulterated by the Liberal left.
Tim Gordon, was anti V2 and did a deep dive study to disvalidate V2. At the end of the study, he reverted and found that V2 is sound. Its the Libtards, my brother James ! What needs to be cleansed off are them not V2. Money is used for a lot of sinful activities. Do we say its money is evil ?
@@jeremiahong248 It has been prophesied by mystics of the Church that there will be an end times counter Church, the Ape of the Church.
The catechism itself, although the new one is deeply deeply flawed with modernism and lax discipline, states that the Church will have to go through a final trial. What on earth do you think is happening right now?
Vatican II taught nothing dogmatically about faith and morals. Praise the Lord the Church was still protected from declaring and binding the faithful to error. While there are some Orthodox statements in their documents, there are very problematic heretical statements as well. If you deny that you are not an honest person. You are not someone who seeks to hold to the faith of our fathers, you seek to do what’s popular to receive a claim by men.
The true Church still exists, it is simply a smaller remnant and is currently being persecuted by those who seek a new way, a new world religion if you will - headed by Bergoglio.
God bless you Father 🙏
So sobering ! I'm pleased to hear this explained so well by 2 men of God I respect.! 😁🙏
God bless you Father****
Comemnting from my mother's account, these opinions are not her own, but her sons.
Where is more of this interview ? Or more of this man? He's wonderful.
Not Scott Hahn of course. Hahaha
Whoever contradicts the faith handed down to us by our Apostles from Christ Jesus ,if they don't repent ,the Holy Spirit declared let them be excommunicated . The German Bishops & clergy who insist on evil and all.those else where MUST BE EXCOMMUNICATED FROM THE CHURCH OF OUR LORD , " A little leaven spoils " The Lord Jesus warned .
Father ,Son and Holy Spirit are not catholic and you falsely use the Holy Spirit for your religious carnal desire . Who is Lord in your religion it is Satan coming as an angel of light and of course you are so deceived that you cant see it ! Just remove the log in your own eyes........
@@isrberlinerin4063 Why don't you remove a log from your eyes before seeing what is in another man's eye. Any one who rejects the Catholic truth can not speak but by an evil spirit. Jesus too was accused to posses a demon in Him by those who thought were righteous ,so it is no surprise that His church is accused too. The fact is that the devil & his agents have been fighting to destroy the Catholic church for now 2000yrs & he has successfully recruited most of you . And before you bubble ,please let us know who defined the doctrine of Father ,son & holy spirit ,and what evidence you have that those words were truly spoken by Jesus Christ or the Apostles ?and lastly to which " denomination you belong "
@@balukuroben7458 It is very obvious you catholics do not believe in entirety of the Word Of God . You always pick a few scriptures that fit into your catholic narrative and then you wrongly interpret them, because the Holy Spirit revelation is missing .You speak of the Devil he certainly is very prevalent in your religion. Just because you think you are righteous , does not mean you are . Thinking and being are two different things . What i say has nothing to do with any denomination , they all fall short of the glory of God . The Risen Jesus Christ is not a religion and He said: I Am The Truth ,The Way and The Life and No One comes to the Father but through Me .
@@isrberlinerin4063 The problem is you think you have the truth , it is equally different to know or read that " Jesus is the way ,the truth & life " and how you enter the way, how you enter the truth , & that life" . I don't have to win you over but from your statements I don't see how the Holy Spirit is guiding you , to say the head of the Catholic church is Satan ! Do you even know what you are saying ? whether yes or No, wait the day you meet the LORD JESUS CHRIST to determine your fate . For as far as the "Word" is concerned which you testify to : Jesus started a church gave it authority on earth ,so that Heaven binds what she binds & looses what she loosens in the Name of Yahweh. Those who are outside the church have formed denominations & others like you are non denominational . So let me ask ,if you are a believer in the word " Gospels " ,how would you believe In them if the Church did not chose & authorise what is gospel especially since your non denomination was not there to do so 382AD when the church first decided on what should be gospel ,& other inclusions in the "word"? Have you met.Jesus physically before & he told you that the Bible consists of the New & old testament which he left behind ?Did he tell you it consists of LUKE (NOT AN APOSTLE), MARK (NOT AN APOSTLE), ACTS (WRITTEN BY LUKE ), etc instead of consisting of the writings of the 11Apostles +Paul + Mathias ?where are the teachings of the rest ?can your non denomination answer this question upon whose authority do they believe in the Bible which they did not compile ?
@@balukuroben7458 denonomination of gates/soros/fauchi/biden/pelosi/rothschilds/ etc. Hohoho.
Dr hahn did a great job. Kudos!
This means that most of the priests who’ve heard my confessions need to be told to go to confession for saying heretical / heterodox things to me (and probably to many others). Now I’m ready to do the telling. 💪🏻✝️
To me that raises the question of the validity of your confession have your sins been forgiven
@@Mike-qc8xd At first I wondered that myself, but I’ve since heard various orthodox Catholic priests say that the badness of bad priests doesn’t invalidate the sacraments that they administer.
Canon 212
§1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church.
2. The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires.
3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.
@@Mike-qc8xd there is no question regarding the validity of Confession made in good FAITH but he has a point in that bad advice is often given in the confessional and this affects the WAYfarer, confuses the TRUTH and gives the lie to the LIFE.
@@Mike-qc8xd If you question the validity of the confession, please read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The priest who hear your confession is not the one who forgives your sins. It is our Lord Himself who forgives you sins. So you don't have to worry about what the priest said as he din't forgive your sins.
All confessions are valid so long as your sins are forgiven by the priest who is acting in persona Christi (the priest is lending his voice to Christ who is the only one who can forgive your sins).
This you should have learned when you prepared for you first confession many years ago.
Fantastic book, Father. Should be required reading of every Catholic.
Hi Dr. Hahn and Fr., God bless.
Yes, I agree we can and must point out something that is wrong brewing, like we must alert everyone in the house if there is a fire.
To criticize the clergy, even the Pope, in just and charitable manners when the evidence is there is acceptable, if not necessary. But to cause others to undermine the Pope and his authority, and other Church members, especially by attacking the Pope's character, is never acceptable.
Can vs should...and how... loved it.
I preordered the book and got t the ebook download immediately.
I think the filial correction Dr. Hahn spoke of is a matter of love and respect for what we have received from that father (even the Holy Father - from himself or from his predecessors).
I watched Msgr. Michael J. Wren discuss the attacks and preemptive strikes on the CCC! He mentioned this great priest! Fr. Murray! He obviously is staying true to the faith as his mentors in the faith…. Men like Msgr. Wren and Msgr. George Kelly!! Semper Fi!
Pray,Pray,Pray.
Very good.
Never be afraid correct people****
YES WE CAN AND ARE OBLIGATED TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH
Kenny Kraft - In a respectful way I would say without insulting the person specially when we are talking about the Vicar of Christ, His Holiness, Pope Francis. Let us pray for him as he has a difficult job.
I’m glad to know now that to tell clergy that they may be doing something wrong is not a sin. So long as it’s done with respect. I recently went to confession with a Monsignor of all people and I couldn’t believe how dismissive he was about a certain thing. It actually broke my heart . I wish I could have had the courage to call him out on how being that disrespectful towards the Eucharist really was. But out of respect of him being a man of God I let it go. Then watching him perform mass all I could think was how fast he went through concentration and how hypocritical his homily was it was terrible. I’ve been noticing that many of us try to rush through our spiritual lives as though it’s just one more thing to mark off our list of things to do. All I can ask for is for us forgiveness for the times I have done this to Our Father. Lord plz forgive me a sinner.
God bless🕊💜🕊
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.”
🤣
Of course you can they are all human and imperfect!! God is perfect.
God gave us all free will. No man has the right to take from us what the Lord has given.
More more more 👏👏🙏
God is in charge, Amen!
Thank u Dr Hahn 4 bringing 2 us Fr Gerald. He very authentic. I like his teachings bcos he speaks th Truth as it is. Nb as followers of Christ we r not blind sheep. We r supposed 2 differentiate btwn true shepherding 4rom false shepherding & shanning th later by pointing out th error. God bls u both. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Yes!
It should be titled "May you criticize the clergy".
He is a very good Priest.If I was the Pope,I would create him an Archbishop,and then elevate him
to be a Cardinal at the next Consistory.He is a man of God.
Any room for a man of knowledge ?If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
Where to get the kindle version? When does it come out?
Yes. It's called discernment.
One of the hardest experiences of faith is when your parents do things that clearly go against God. One is faced with a remarkable contradiction of how to obey the commandment to Honor your Father and Mother yet separate yourself insofar that you would disobey them in love. Admittedly, I am envious of many that have had outstanding parenting that were authentically true to the Holy Spirit. God bless you, gentlemen. .
ST. BERNARD (1090-1153) Though personally charitable and kind, he was a formidable opponent, and he spared no effort in attacking injustice, such as excessive luxury among the clergy and persecution of the Jews.
Pope Eugenius III was a friend and a disciple of Bernard and was the first Cistercian to become pope. Pope Eugenius asked Bernard for his thoughts on the right manner of conduct for the successor of St. Peter. Bernard wrote: “That you have been raised to the pinnacle of honor and power is an undeniable fact. But for what purpose have you been so elevated? Here is a question that calls for your utmost consideration. It was not that you might enjoy the glory of lordship....What profit does the flock derive from magnificent pageants, with you, the supreme shepherd of the flock advancing majestically in gilded clothing? Do you think that Saint Peter loved to surround himself with this pomp and display, or Saint Paul? No. In all things that belong to earthly magnificence, you have succeeded not Peter, but the Emperor Constantine!”
St. Paul writes that having a love for truth is essential for salvation. Jesus commanded us to love God with our whole mind. The mind of course is the seat of reason. Although the truths of the faith can not be known through reason, reason can and must be used to identify teaching that is contrary to the faith.
These programs would have been more interesting if Fr Murray was allowed to speak more without pressing “the pause button “
We all know right from wrong. Therefore, we have the right to criticize when they do wrong.
Where do you get the boldness to call out wrongdoing? Where do you get the humility to accept criticism or the truth when it is you who is commiting an offense
Scott Hahn's anecdote I understand. I had the same experience. Shame that EWTN darlings have kept their heads below the parapet since the summer of shame.
We don't criticize, bu just speak the Truth. We have the duties and responsibilities to refute or rebuke sharply especially those who are in errors, heresies, and lies. We will be accountable in front of the judgment seat of God if we are indifferent, and just keep silent.
To put it simply, yes…you can. If you observe any of them doing something that contradicts the laws and commands of God, then you must call them out on it.
We live in age of confusion. We need solid truth that the church has always taught. Evil One feeds on confusion. The truth can never be compromised.
❤️
I think a distinction between correction of the bishops and simply complaining online must be made from telling the bishops themselves. The former turns easily into wrath, calumny and slander, the latter actually addressed the issue to those it is against. If a wayward bishop recieves an outcry from his flock and the Church`s Magesterium is against him, he may change. If he simply hears rumors of backroom gossip on him, he may likely ignore it. If he knows and hears it from many, elder though he be, he will very likely to consider his course anew.
The Archivist - We have to pray to our Lord to help us out. And ask Our Holy Mother Mary to pray to her son for us and His Church. Amen,
Very good point. We need to be catechised in online behaviour.
The Archivist, well stated, thank you.
I think we all need to protect each other and the faith. And "today" that means at informing people that our Pope is at very least confusing many Catholics.
Ther is no confusion with knowledge If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
We MUST be sure that clergy adhere to Scripture. Anyone who deviates from it must be called out!!
Yes sola Scriptura!
@@TsumebleraarUhhhh, no.
God is our creator. Amen Amen Amen!
Given that St. Paul criticized his pope, I figured the St. Paul Center would say you can criticize the clergy. Not surprised.
Read Fr.’s doctoral thesis in Rome on Lefebvre.
Our Lady of the Rosary, most Holy. We entrust to You the conversion and salvation of PF and his cohorts, that they may abide to the True Magisterial Teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, Apostolic Traditions and the Sacred Scriptures.
Holy Spirit living in Mary, let Your Spirit of Truth be upon them.
Amen 🙏
Joseph, most Holy and Father of the Universal Church, pray and protect your beloved persecuted priests and religious.
Venerable Bp Fulton Sheen, pray for their conversion.
Thankfully the Catholic Church still has some fine clergy such as the priest Gerald Murray and the great cardinal Gerhard Muller.
So American Bishops are right and German Bishops and others are wrong! Thank you Dr. Hahn! I think the message of Jesus is clear, don’t disrupt the established beliefs!
Yes you can
No one is above our Blessed Lord and God Jesus Christ.. Pope and Bishops are not born like Our Blessed Lord and Our Blessed Mother..so EXCEPT Our Blessed Lord and Blessed Mother all are SINNERS.. so if Pope or BISHOP'S or Priest go against the TEACHINGS of our Blessed Lord they are considered as FOX like HEROD..
@@tony1685 (I ment I don't need an abundance of bible quotes from you in a post). I love my Douay Rheims Bible, the only one I use and will use.
The keys to the Kingdom has been passed down from Peter whom was told.... what you consider bound on earth, shall be considered bound in Heaven. Our Lady was and is without sin. The Queen of Heaven and Earth.
You shouldn't call people s@tan, resorting to insults isn't necessary.
@@Pax336, ignore tony, he trolls Catholic TH-cam channels in order to spread the lies of his 7th day adventist cult.
Absolutely wrong ! Mary was NOT sinless - Jesus had to die fur her too ! She even called him her SAVIOR !! Why do Catholics insist on worshipping her & giving her glory ? Stop the idolatry & praying to the saints ! They are dead - the only way to the Father is thru the Son !
@@tony1685 Tony, Tony, Mary referring to God as "Saviour" doesn't PROVE that she was ever guilty of sin. Did She specify EXACTLY what God was saving her from ? Do you think that when the Bible describes God as "Saviour", it is speaking ONLY in reference to His ability to save people FROM SIN ? Hebrews 5:7 says that it was possible for God to be a SAVIOUR to Jesus Christ when He was on earth -- does that prove that Jesus is a sinner ? No. You know why ? Because that passage refers to God as one who was able to SAVE Jesus from death, not from sin. In other words, that passage specifically told us EXACTLY what God was able to SAVE Jesus from. In Luke 1:47 are we told EXACTLY what God was SAVING Mary from? Does it say anything about God saving Mary from the SINS she had committed? I am sorry but you don't have enough information in Luke 1:47 to make the conclusion that Mary was a sinner
@@tony1685 There is no doubt that a sinner needs a Saviour. But to say that ONLY a sinner needs a Saviour is incorrect because it suggests that sin is the ONLY thing that God can save us from. Otherwise why would scripture describe God as "the one who could SAVE" Jesus from DEATH (Hebrew 5:7) ?
Clearly you don't understand the context of Luke 1:47. Mary was a Jew. it was a traditional practice of the Jews to refer to God as "Saviour" but the context in which they saw God as Saviour is a bit different from the context in which christians see Jesus as Saviour. When christians refer to Jesus as "Saviour", it is often with SPECIFIC reference to His ability to save us from our SINS (Matthew 1:21). But with the Jews it was a bit different because they regarded God as Saviour in a more BROADER or GENERAL sense. That is, God SAVES them from MANY harmful and unpleasant situations, not just sin alone (eg from disease, death, physical enemies, etc ) For example, 2 Samuel 22:3 refers to God as Saviour, not because of His ability to save from SIN, but because he saves from the attacks of violent men.
Learn to read Luke 1:47 in the proper context to avoid making unsubstantiated conclusions
Father’s dad sounds so much like my dad…. What an awesome blessing dad’s can be.
Fr. Gerald, it took awhile over the past few weeks to figure it all out. (12 years of Catholic school.) 2,000 years, heretic, I knew! Pope Pious X knew all this, thank you. TRUTH.
More truth If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
Thank you 🙏 & pray for the pharmaceutical level 4 Leakers and others levels that have come out and let us know that female hormones are in many of the vaccines given to little boys before their six months of age and vice a versa. This has always been planned
Agreed…
The level of just anger regarding this is still not nearly high enough. We should hate this wickedness with all of our being and drive it so far from the Church that anyone would pee their pants if they even considered for a split second bringing it into the Church. Until our shepherds have this mindset, it will continue to be allowed and tolerated with maybe a shepherd here or there trying to explain it to wicked people why what they are doing is wrong and they won't listen and nothing will get done.
There is a difference between being mistakenly wrong in a theological topic, and supporting wickedness like so many shepherds are doing know especially in the Vatican.
Can someone please send this to Michael Lofton, please?
...my kids challenge me...so I will challenge the Pope, particularly when he is clearly and incredibly wrong ...and pray for him...
Wrong?If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
Something understood for over 2000 years would have an irrevocable benchmark for the German BISHOPS to reverse. Yes, the confessional would be appropriate or excommunication would be in order
Canon Law 212:
§1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church.
2. The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires.
3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.
Fr. Gerald sounds so convincing but he is consistently looking at the faults of others. The saints tell us not to even see the faults of others.
Not all German Bishops follow these heretic positions of the german Synodal Way - please pray for the Catholics in Germany
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When will Father Gerald be joining Raymond Arroyo on Fox News?
As saint frances of Asisi said only lord Jesus judge them because because his the judges of as all.Instead pray for them because there very fragile sorrounded with temptstion.If you pray for them its your mirit to the lord God who created heaven and earth and his beloved son and holy spirit.Amen
CHRIST is the Template of what humanity "Should Be"
I don't believe in criticizing anyone especially clergy or people in ministry because I don't believe the Lord likes that and it doesn't work...BUT! If you have the relationship you should have ..it had been my experience BIG TIME...they want to know what you think...however, I dodge that with what HE is telling me by HIS WORD...what HE thinks...it works!
German church is in dire straits.
Only the German church? You haven't been to many countries and probably don't know the state of your country's church. The entire Roman Catholic Church is in dire straits.
@@weissblau you know nothing about me.
@@DenisOhAichir then I am as knowledgeable as you are.
@@weissblau no you're not, you're arrogant.
@@DenisOhAichir So you are judging me now based on a (misunderstood) comment?
I did not listen yet BUT in answer to the question ……. ABSOLUTELY!
GOD Made, Men and Women. The Universal True. !
I saw the thumbnail for this program. And I said to myself, you've got to be kidding! The Catholic Church is falling down around us as I write this. And you're worried about criticizing the Pope?! That should have happened 60 years ago. So glad I joined the SSPX! ✝