Title suggests a review of towing ability at 3.5t. You hook up a 2.8t van and then spend more time and put more emphasis on the shiny new rear badge and interior mod-cons. Can it really tow 3.5t? Not on paper, in real world conditions? With slight of hand marketing mumbo jumbo like a 3.5t tow capacity, the implication is that this is as capable as a 200 series cruiser. Compared to that, how does it tow, even the 2.8t van?
Okay, so at the end of that Mux review, please can you do another video that shows if the Mux can tow 3.5t. How's the handling, acceleration, etc with such a weight behind it. That'll be great. If you can't do such a video because it's not sensible, then Isuzu need to change their listed specs and ads.
In all fairness, they aren't saying you have to tow a 3.5t caravan with it. But you can tow 3.5t if you have to - loaded car trailer or whatever else someone might need to tow at that weight for a relatively short distance.
True, but if you understand all the relevant weights you need to be aware of, the marketing blurb isn't going to sway your buying decision. The 3.5t tow rating isn't aimed at impressing a knowledgeable person. It is aimed at an inexperienced one and in that context is misleading even if technically correct when supported by tiny fine print. Isuzu isn't alone in that though.
On the tow ( being a 2wd) it is a bit disappointing that the lt/100 are as high as 18 lt/100 with that size van of 3500kg. I would have thought given an improvement in engine capacity and increase in tank capacity it would have been significant with a distance of mid 500 kms . So MUX 4Wd towing would be around the low 20 lt/100😬🙄 - therefore caravanning would require a couple of jerry cans🙄 would be required
I'm in the market for a new tow vehicle, caravan max GVM of 2605, so don't need 3.5t towing capacity, but neither do I need off-road capabilities. I feel it's assumed that every caravanner needs a 4x4. I don't own an off-road van so don't want a 4x4. Can't find much on 4x2 tow vehicles.
In the test you show a hitch in the inverted/rise position to give the proper ride height for an off-road van on the MU-X. It appears non-genuine ISUZU. Can you tell me what brand of hitch was used and where I can source one, assuming it’s ADR rated to be used like that?
With 350 towbar weight, wouldn't it send the front headlight looking at the Koalas in the trees with stock suspension? Was it the car still evel when loaded with that trailer in the video?
The rear of the current MU-X uses relatively stiff springs and short control arms, it drops a bit with a decent load but it was not too bad. In this video had nothing in the back and just one driver.
ISUZU - MU - X - S.U.V. : Motor : 4 Cilindros : 3.0 L - Turbo - Diesel ; Tração - (4x4) Rodas : Top - Econômica ; Top - Designer : Top - Model - Lindo !!!! Bealtfill. !!! ; MU - X : ISUZU : NEW - MODEL : 2023 ~ 2024 : NEW - LANÇAMENTOS .
@@stevegoodwin5841 yes my point is it’s not about weight but more about engineering. My guess the engineers that design the vehicles came up with the numbers through their expertise. I would take them at their word over a youtuber. However the problem is more people not understanding the numbers, lack of towing skills and respecting mechanical sympathy
@@kevviekevvie8440 trouble is it’s sales people driving this insanity trying to out do each other John Cadogan ( engineer) Does a great job explaining the science here on YT As a guy that has been towing a caravan for the last 40 odd years , I think my seat of the pants feel for what’s safe and not , though probably on the conservative side Has served me well
@@batmanlives6456 yeah with our pajero 2015 we currently tow 2.6-7 tons and it's good but the iszuzu seemed unstable kinda skinny and just not well footed I may try out a prado but yeah the lane keep was useless worked less then 50% of the time.
@@joewhite8079 just worries me being on the road with these grossly over rated vehicles towing on or over their Max legal capacity When I was young the rule of thumb used to be dont tow more than the tow vehicle weight I have a Hilux at the moment and tow pop top at around 1800 kgs and find that just comfortable My brother in law tows 12 tonne around the farm with his landcruiser ute but just because it will tow it doesn’t make it a good idea !!!
Absolutley irresponsible claim that is made by all small ute altered wagons. The 3.5 ton van will eventually dictate the fate of these light 4wd wagons Stripped gearboxes, blown small engines, broken drivetrains, squashed suspensions, bent chassis and hopefully not serious crashes. Just ilogical lunacy. Max safe braked tow 2.5 tons. Max
@@jaygus7297 iscrewu hasn’t been updated in the engine dept since 1999 If you choose to drive an antique so be it Maybe you can even register it on historical plates ....
Title suggests a review of towing ability at 3.5t. You hook up a 2.8t van and then spend more time and put more emphasis on the shiny new rear badge and interior mod-cons. Can it really tow 3.5t? Not on paper, in real world conditions? With slight of hand marketing mumbo jumbo like a 3.5t tow capacity, the implication is that this is as capable as a 200 series cruiser. Compared to that, how does it tow, even the 2.8t van?
Okay, so at the end of that Mux review, please can you do another video that shows if the Mux can tow 3.5t. How's the handling, acceleration, etc with such a weight behind it. That'll be great.
If you can't do such a video because it's not sensible, then Isuzu need to change their listed specs and ads.
In all fairness, they aren't saying you have to tow a 3.5t caravan with it. But you can tow 3.5t if you have to - loaded car trailer or whatever else someone might need to tow at that weight for a relatively short distance.
You can tow 3.5 tonnes but only with a single driver and fuel
True, but if you understand all the relevant weights you need to be aware of, the marketing blurb isn't going to sway your buying decision. The 3.5t tow rating isn't aimed at impressing a knowledgeable person. It is aimed at an inexperienced one and in that context is misleading even if technically correct when supported by tiny fine print. Isuzu isn't alone in that though.
@666 Dual Sport the payload of the MUX is 600 kgs you deduct the tow all weight of 10% 350kgs and fuel and passengers and anything you have fitted
Rear axle weight 1600kgs. A towball weight of 300 plus 2 passengers and your axle weight is blown.
Great video very informative with the weight specs
On the tow ( being a 2wd) it is a bit disappointing that the lt/100 are as high as 18 lt/100 with that size van of 3500kg.
I would have thought given an improvement in engine capacity and increase in tank capacity it would have been significant with a distance of mid 500 kms .
So MUX 4Wd towing would be around the low 20 lt/100😬🙄 - therefore caravanning would require a couple of jerry cans🙄 would be required
A 14 tonne bus does that 22/100 highway
This is a 4wd. Not a 2wd.
I'm in the market for a new tow vehicle, caravan max GVM of 2605, so don't need 3.5t towing capacity, but neither do I need off-road capabilities. I feel it's assumed that every caravanner needs a 4x4. I don't own an off-road van so don't want a 4x4. Can't find much on 4x2 tow vehicles.
That's a good point. I guess you need a powerful RWD wagon or MPV, or even a 4x2 version of a Mu-X or any other big SUV.
In the test you show a hitch in the inverted/rise position to give the proper ride height for an off-road van on the MU-X. It appears non-genuine ISUZU. Can you tell me what brand of hitch was used and where I can source one, assuming it’s ADR rated to be used like that?
With 350 towbar weight, wouldn't it send the front headlight looking at the Koalas in the trees with stock suspension? Was it the car still evel when loaded with that trailer in the video?
The rear of the current MU-X uses relatively stiff springs and short control arms, it drops a bit with a decent load but it was not too bad. In this video had nothing in the back and just one driver.
Weight of the tow vehicle is everything.
ISUZU - MU - X - S.U.V. : Motor :
4 Cilindros : 3.0 L - Turbo - Diesel ;
Tração - (4x4) Rodas : Top - Econômica ; Top - Designer : Top -
Model - Lindo !!!! Bealtfill. !!! ;
MU - X : ISUZU : NEW - MODEL :
2023 ~ 2024 : NEW - LANÇAMENTOS .
Suggest u visit a few parks and talk to dmax and mux owners re towing capabilities, different story in the real world and it’s not a good story
I saw another review saying you can't drive the mux in all wheel drive on the road but this review says you can.
Which is true
If you’re going to tow a fully maxed 3.5T with this thing then good luck to you & godspeed.
No, buy a landcruiser , patrol silverado or a ram. 3500 kg caravan will leave you with a 75kg driver in the mux to not be over gcm, what a joke.
@666 Dual Sport the 2500 can carry 1.8 tonne in the back lol, don't know what vehicle you're thinking of?
@666 Dual Sport yeh the 1500's are awful
Does it loose power towing up hill
Not that we noticed and we pushed it pretty hard around the valleys up from Glenmaggie, Vic
Even if it can tow 3.5t on paper and legally it can't tow 3.5t safely.
No one with out training and a licence should be towing 3500 KG. It's a joke.
A trailer heavier than the tow vehicle is a disaster waiting to happen. Legal yes, sensible no.
Funny, I drive a vehicle that weights 12.8 tonne with a gvm of 24tonne and tow up to 55 tonne.
@@kevviekevvie8440 you are fine, engineered for purpose. You know I am talking caravans and loaded trailers behind light weight vehicles.
@@stevegoodwin5841 yes my point is it’s not about weight but more about engineering. My guess the engineers that design the vehicles came up with the numbers through their expertise. I would take them at their word over a youtuber. However the problem is more people not understanding the numbers, lack of towing skills and respecting mechanical sympathy
@@kevviekevvie8440 trouble is it’s sales people driving this insanity trying to out do each other
John Cadogan ( engineer)
Does a great job explaining the science here on YT
As a guy that has been towing a caravan for the last 40 odd years , I think my seat of the pants feel for what’s safe and not , though probably on the conservative side
Has served me well
Towing is ridiculously unsafe weights 😳 very dangerous. I agree
what better for tow manual or automat
manual obviously 😂
Must turn off all the tech to tow what the
Isuzu 4 life
Tow 3.5 tonnes and you would have a death wish come true !
@@batmanlives6456 what about 2.7tons mate.
@@joewhite8079 still scary but safer
@@batmanlives6456 yeah with our pajero 2015 we currently tow 2.6-7 tons and it's good but the iszuzu seemed unstable kinda skinny and just not well footed I may try out a prado but yeah the lane keep was useless worked less then 50% of the time.
@@joewhite8079 just worries me being on the road with these grossly over rated vehicles towing on or over their Max legal capacity
When I was young the rule of thumb used to be dont tow more than the tow vehicle weight
I have a Hilux at the moment and tow pop top at around 1800 kgs and find that just comfortable
My brother in law tows 12 tonne around the farm with his landcruiser ute but just because it will tow it doesn’t make it a good idea !!!
Short answer is No
When I test drove the mux i was suprised at how gutless it was.. the Toyota 4 cylinder diesel not much better
Usual waffle and then fail to reply to your viewers?
No
Absolutley irresponsible claim that is made by all small ute altered wagons. The 3.5 ton van will eventually dictate the fate of these light 4wd wagons Stripped gearboxes, blown small engines, broken drivetrains, squashed suspensions, bent chassis and hopefully not serious crashes. Just ilogical lunacy. Max safe braked tow 2.5 tons. Max
Toyota would tow it easy 👍 No way with Isuzu not even half the Ute as Hilux 😂
I agree
Your dreaming, what a gutless hi lux or prado.
@@shanesalmo1163 Ha Ha Isuzu 140kw and 450nm you flog it’s black and white Hilux 150kw and 500nm you don’t even know your own car
@@jaygus7297 iscrewu hasn’t been updated in the engine dept since 1999
If you choose to drive an antique so be it
Maybe you can even register it on historical plates ....