Completely understand. These are simply elements I found, compared with some rivals. Could I ask, are there any points of the MU-X that you don't like?
This was a great down to earth and practical review. Thank you. I'll be happy with the South African trim LSE with the 18inch wheels and without all the safety systems that need to be turned off when attaching a trailer.... vs Fortuner / Pajero sport.. this is for me the pick of the bunch despite its quirks..
23 years in Thailand ,only had Isuzu ,never ,NEVER had a problem , a breakdown ,anything ! .I've got no connection with this company but after hassle free driving guess what my next buy will be "boring" you say ,well .if you say so but I'll take reaching my destination without issues more important OK ,two gripes ,the front window auto button can get stuck ,affecting the battery and it is possible to lock yourself out when leaving the key in the ignition But I'm over 70 now and driving in the back waters of Thailand I'll take reliability every time they should use this as an ad
Issues you missed are the bump steer problem that scrubs front tyres, soft paint - never had a car scratch so easily, autonomous driving support is very poor - I use it but it doesn’t keep you in the lane and turns off regularly. No auto lock on the doors when you start driving and most owners will tell you they turn off the parking assist which goes of constantly in traffic. Other than that - is a reasonable 4wd for the money.
I like that I can hear the engine a little bit, it's a good first indicator if something goes wrong. BTW I think this is so quiet on the road at 110. I think you are a bit precious about the noise in the cab. Try getting in any 10 year old diesel and see how noisy they were. Who sits with the door open and revs the engine? It's a diesel!
Looking to buy this in the near future as this is the only SUV in it's class that comes close to the third row seating space that we currently have on our almost 20 year old Isuzu Alterra (also known as MU-7 in other countries). Just waiting for rear diff lock functionality to be available in the Philippine market - it's weird that they took it out from all the variants here.
Can agree with this, we’ve been going from dealership to dealership testing everything lately to cover all bases before we purchase and can confirm the MUX is by far and away the best third row without a doubt.
I have a mux and it developed a warning light stating passenger airbag warning and staying on all times from day one. I've been told by dealer and head office and roadside assistance RACV that it's nothing to bother about but it stills concerns me.Noel Joyce thank you
I owned my 2023 isuzu mux lst for over a year now. Overall a very good car, just a bit average on fuel considering not much power output, and the gear changing going up hills is a bit poor but a diesel tune fixes the minor problem
Dashboard could say absolutely whatever it wants for fuel usage. Only way to get true real world is to see what the bowser pumps and calculate against distance travelled. Interesting to do this over say 1000km each between isuzu and bmw and see what each produces
Nice video. I can tell you my wait time for LST was 2 months. I went to another dealer and they told me the same. Was hoping for Xmas but got it before new year 🎊. So far, very happy. I do like that it's not over teched out. Agree with infotainment, could have been a bit better. 🙂
Great video. I think the word you were looking for when describing the design was classy. I sat in the 3rd row and was amazed at the amount of space. Better than pajero sport. The dashboard is perfect, no ugly grey plastic. Everything is dark and consistent. Even the touch screen is dark, nobody wants a overly bright screen that can become a distraction.
As per my knowledge I don't think putting it in 4H locks front and rear axles, otherwise Isuzu wouldn't offer that rear locker button. And driving on 2WD is more efficient than AWD/4WD as there's lesser loss of power as the power only goes to one axle and it is more fuel efficient. Fortuner also has same system.
Locking both the front and rear together I mean, not separately. As in the front axle receives the same amount of engine torque as the rear axle. When in 4H or 4L. It still can have independent wheelspin though, which is where the rear locker helps. And yes that is the way most heavy duty SUVs work. Except the Pajero Sport and Prado - both feature a centre differential.
To clarify, the mu-x has no centre differential, whereas pajero sport does have a centre diff. A centre diff is essential if you want to drive all 4 wheels on hard surfaces, otherwise differences in wheel speed when cornering will twist up the drive-line until something breaks.
I was very much leaning to this Isuzu to replace our Pajero Sport QE, seemingly being a value for money proposition. Not so much anymore after this vid hahaha. Ok, the deal breaker: not having the AWD mode bad a "hard" 44 High setting only. Seriously how does that go in wet weather?? My relatively low power Mitsu break out at the back on wet roads going through corner. Everyday AWD is just a must in a vehicle this big. So it sounds like my option is back to Pajero Sport or, buy an Everest. So realistically, the only choice now is 2.0 turbo or V6, if you get my drift.....
I have a 2023 MUX LS-T. Recently I had a passenger in my LH passenger seat who is 6"2". As his head was up near the roof, we tried to adjust the height of the seat for his size. Had no luck. When I had my service I asked the service people find out how to adjust. Unbelievably, they said there is no fix. So of course I asked; so does that mean anyone at 6'2" or above cannot travel comfortably in my car? This is rediculous.
Don't forget the seats, no front passenger electric adjustments and heating has only two settings not three, side mirrors do not have an auto close switch. I am basing this observation on a Hyundai Sante Fe, sadly written of by another drivers "medical episode"... got my D Max in 3 months!
Do you know what is the difference between 2H, 4H and 4L in the 4WD selector? That selector is identical to the Fortuner selector and the Montero/Pajero Sport, because all those SUVs in that segment have similar 4WD system, non of them are AWD. The 2H is for regular road driving, the 4H is for High Speed driving on slippery surfaces, like in rain or snow, and the 4L is for low gear ratio, for lot of torque and traction when dealing with Mud or Rocks. It is Basic 4WD operation.... I dont see that as something negative on that car.
Of course. But with vehicles such as the Pajero Sport and Ford Everest V6, these have a centre differential or mechanism that allows driving on hard surfaces with 4WD engaged. This Isuzu does not provide that.
I am from Belgium . Ibjust buy one a new 2024 model 3l diesel automatic not the 4x4 . The Isuzu choose match my requirements a big family car 7 seats and high on wheels with a navigation System . I Will drive it only in the Philippines . Delivery time was only one week but only avaible in black wit silver color❗ A big tractor engin 🚜. A sage choose when you know the the routes status in the Philippines. Not very good state 😉
Demo 0-100 test at 14:45. Full 0-100 video coming soon.
the ¨bad¨ things you mentioned its what makes this vehicule better than the rest......
Completely understand. These are simply elements I found, compared with some rivals. Could I ask, are there any points of the MU-X that you don't like?
some of the cons like no 360 camera and no wireless connectivity, etc. were added in the 2024 model
You goose!
What a great breakdown! Keep these videos going mate - really appreciate getting a taste of the good, bad and the ugly.
Thanks! Will do 👍
Any particular requests?
Good of you to review the third row, there really is a lot of space back there.
best brand for toughness and relability
Nice review. very detailed, straight to the point. no BS! Love this kinda reviews.
This was a great down to earth and practical review. Thank you. I'll be happy with the South African trim LSE with the 18inch wheels and without all the safety systems that need to be turned off when attaching a trailer.... vs Fortuner / Pajero sport.. this is for me the pick of the bunch despite its quirks..
23 years in Thailand ,only had Isuzu ,never ,NEVER had a problem , a breakdown ,anything ! .I've got no connection with this company but after hassle free driving guess what my next buy will be
"boring" you say ,well .if you say so but I'll take reaching my destination without issues more important
OK ,two gripes ,the front window auto button can get stuck ,affecting the battery and it is possible to lock yourself out when leaving the key in the ignition
But I'm over 70 now and driving in the back waters of Thailand I'll take reliability every time
they should use this as an ad
Issues you missed are the bump steer problem that scrubs front tyres, soft paint - never had a car scratch so easily, autonomous driving support is very poor - I use it but it doesn’t keep you in the lane and turns off regularly. No auto lock on the doors when you start driving and most owners will tell you they turn off the parking assist which goes of constantly in traffic. Other than that - is a reasonable 4wd for the money.
Really interesting review mate. I've been thinking about purchasing this particular model. Keep it up.
Thanks. Glad I could help.
I like that I can hear the engine a little bit, it's a good first indicator if something goes wrong. BTW I think this is so quiet on the road at 110. I think you are a bit precious about the noise in the cab. Try getting in any 10 year old diesel and see how noisy they were. Who sits with the door open and revs the engine? It's a diesel!
Just comparing to other modern 4x4 diesel SUVs mate. It’s my job. No point in comparing to a 10 year old car. A 10yo car isn’t $50-60k.
Looking to buy this in the near future as this is the only SUV in it's class that comes close to the third row seating space that we currently have on our almost 20 year old Isuzu Alterra (also known as MU-7 in other countries). Just waiting for rear diff lock functionality to be available in the Philippine market - it's weird that they took it out from all the variants here.
Can agree with this, we’ve been going from dealership to dealership testing everything lately to cover all bases before we purchase and can confirm the MUX is by far and away the best third row without a doubt.
Hi, in Oz we seem to get g80 by default.
same with other brands they remove some features for Philippine market
I have a mux and it developed a warning light stating passenger airbag warning and staying on all times from day one. I've been told by dealer and head office and roadside assistance RACV that it's nothing to bother about but it stills concerns me.Noel Joyce thank you
I owned my 2023 isuzu mux lst for over a year now. Overall a very good car, just a bit average on fuel considering not much power output, and the gear changing going up hills is a bit poor but a diesel tune fixes the minor problem
Dashboard could say absolutely whatever it wants for fuel usage. Only way to get true real world is to see what the bowser pumps and calculate against distance travelled. Interesting to do this over say 1000km each between isuzu and bmw and see what each produces
Yep, good point. That would be more accurate.
Your review is probably the best one Ive seen. Practical assessment and great detail. Thanks very much
@@brettknowles3582 Thanks 🙏
Nice video. I can tell you my wait time for LST was 2 months. I went to another dealer and they told me the same. Was hoping for Xmas but got it before new year 🎊.
So far, very happy. I do like that it's not over teched out. Agree with infotainment, could have been a bit better. 🙂
Great video. I think the word you were looking for when describing the design was classy. I sat in the 3rd row and was amazed at the amount of space. Better than pajero sport. The dashboard is perfect, no ugly grey plastic. Everything is dark and consistent. Even the touch screen is dark, nobody wants a overly bright screen that can become a distraction.
The more I look at it the more I like it
It looks heaps better than the previous version that's for sure.
Best option I found to get around the lackluster UI of the head unit....plug in Android Auto and then all it OK
Yep, great fix.
As per my knowledge I don't think putting it in 4H locks front and rear axles, otherwise Isuzu wouldn't offer that rear locker button. And driving on 2WD is more efficient than AWD/4WD as there's lesser loss of power as the power only goes to one axle and it is more fuel efficient. Fortuner also has same system.
Locking both the front and rear together I mean, not separately. As in the front axle receives the same amount of engine torque as the rear axle. When in 4H or 4L. It still can have independent wheelspin though, which is where the rear locker helps. And yes that is the way most heavy duty SUVs work. Except the Pajero Sport and Prado - both feature a centre differential.
To clarify, the mu-x has no centre differential, whereas pajero sport does have a centre diff. A centre diff is essential if you want to drive all 4 wheels on hard surfaces, otherwise differences in wheel speed when cornering will twist up the drive-line until something breaks.
Great list👍.
Does the Fortuner have a 4A setting and a sliding middle row?
Great review! Can you review the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport? Would love to see a few more 4x4 on here. Appreciate the info.
Thanks a lot.
Ok, I'll see if I can line something up asap 👍
Can the 3rd row be removed or only folded down? I need extra space for dog crates
Great video thanks
Good yarn. Subbed.
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed it.
what is the rattle on cold starts timing chain ? how long will it last
I was very much leaning to this Isuzu to replace our Pajero Sport QE, seemingly being a value for money proposition. Not so much anymore after this vid hahaha. Ok, the deal breaker: not having the AWD mode bad a "hard" 44 High setting only. Seriously how does that go in wet weather?? My relatively low power Mitsu break out at the back on wet roads going through corner. Everyday AWD is just a must in a vehicle this big. So it sounds like my option is back to Pajero Sport or, buy an Everest. So realistically, the only choice now is 2.0 turbo or V6, if you get my drift.....
I have a 2023 MUX LS-T. Recently I had a passenger in my LH passenger seat who is 6"2". As his head was up near the roof, we tried to adjust the height of the seat for his size. Had no luck. When I had my service I asked the service people find out how to adjust. Unbelievably, they said there is no fix. So of course I asked; so does that mean anyone at 6'2" or above cannot travel comfortably in my car? This is rediculous.
I’m 6’4 and my brother is 6’6, never had any issues in passenger seat
Don't forget the seats, no front passenger electric adjustments and heating has only two settings not three, side mirrors do not have an auto close switch. I am basing this observation on a Hyundai Sante Fe, sadly written of by another drivers "medical episode"... got my D Max in 3 months!
Lst does have front passenger electris adjustment and dual zone airconditioning.
When your talking about passenger space please say your height so people can get an idea of actually how much room is there, otherwise good review.
Thanks. Yep I usually do. I’m 170cm 👍
Its a great car.
Do you know what is the difference between 2H, 4H and 4L in the 4WD selector?
That selector is identical to the Fortuner selector and the Montero/Pajero Sport, because all those SUVs in that segment have similar 4WD system, non of them are AWD.
The 2H is for regular road driving, the 4H is for High Speed driving on slippery surfaces, like in rain or snow, and the 4L is for low gear ratio, for lot of torque and traction when dealing with Mud or Rocks. It is Basic 4WD operation.... I dont see that as something negative on that car.
Of course. But with vehicles such as the Pajero Sport and Ford Everest V6, these have a centre differential or mechanism that allows driving on hard surfaces with 4WD engaged. This Isuzu does not provide that.
Just got out of a biffo with my neighbour. Mouthy women involved exacerbating events.
Good to be here😂
So there isn't anything really bad then?
I am from Belgium . Ibjust buy one a new 2024 model 3l diesel automatic not the 4x4 . The Isuzu choose match my requirements a big family car 7 seats and high on wheels with a navigation System . I Will drive it only in the Philippines . Delivery time was only one week but only avaible in black wit silver color❗ A big tractor engin 🚜. A sage choose when you know the the routes status in the Philippines. Not very good state 😉
Top 1 survival in energy crisis and cost per km
While Mitsubishi offer a 10 year warranty that falls to a 5 year one if you don't get it serviced every year with them at their high servicing costs.
who gives a ff what you BMW DOES
Apologies for providing that reference. And thanks for the all caps for does.
I m also thinking to purchase either mux U or T.