Was asleep when our train boarded the ferry, but Getting off and back onto the rail was really fast. Probably 10 mins if that long. Well executed procedure
Very cool. I rode from Copenhagen to Hamburg Germany a few years ago and the train boarded a ferry at Rodby. However, that train was just a 4 car train that drove itself onto the boat and then off again, unlike this ride where the engines don't ride the boat.
superjfbm You have to move a train from the land upto a ferry dividing cabs on three tracks into the ship guts because there are not any ferries 200 meters long. You have to move it slowly to avoid any risk of derailing.
-too expensive for Italy at the moment, especially when cities in the area (Messina and Reggio Calabria) have bigger issues to face -criminality and corruption level, that would probably make it even more expensive -highly seismic area, probably one of the most seismic in Europe Onestly I really hope that one day a bridge will be made there, but at the moment it seems really impossible...
Baltu Lielkungs Gunārs Miezis Messina Strait is 3 Km wide and it is generated by a tectonic fault. You can build a bridge but is a challenge at limits of actual technology and it will cost an insane amount of money. It could be compensated by the fact the building yard will absorbe entire production of steel in Italy for the next 5 years improving economy, but it unsure if the bridge will last 100 years or even lesser amount of time due the continuous earthquakes. Also any bridge will be interdicted to traffic 100 days out 365 days in one year, due to high speed winds at more than 100Km/h that will made it impracticable during several days in winter and during any violent storm it could occur, fact that will still had required ferry boats operate in these days of wind, resulting keeping active ferrys too. This fact will result in a parallel loss of money for keeping active the ferries that will drain the bridge renevues. Furthermore Bridge will also being an ecologic monster covering with its shadow 8/12 hours during daylight heritage lakes present in the Sicilian side of the Strait that are a sanctuary for the migrating birds and that were already endangered by human activities of City of Messina and hundreds houses keeping them darkened by its shadow, making these houses loosing their prices. So in the end the Bridge is a ugly mess solution. Only tycoon Silvio Berlusconi wanted the Bridge because he was (still is) a megalomaniac and he wanted to be remembered forever in history as the "man who built the bridge" and made Italian State loosing tenths of milliards Euro in preliminary studies for building it and spending lots of money in useless ancilliary works in order to prepare the big challenge. He made Italy sign officially for engaging a preliminary building contract, and nowadays the firms that signed the contract asked money back from Italy, including accessory economic damages for the rescission of the contract. 🙄🤦
Nirmala Singh Japanese built Akashi Bridge long 3900 meters (almost 4 Km) and with a central span of 1990 meters (just less than 2 Km) and it sustained major Earthquake of 6,8 Richter moving 1 meter from its previous site without damages. Bridge on the Strait of Messina should be long 5000 meters including the ramps and with a span of 3200 meters between the two pylons 300 meters high. Strait is right on a geological fault between Africa and Europe. In 1908 there was an Earthquake there of 7,2 degrees Richter and a Tsunami of 13 meters high. 100.000 died. My family lost my mom grand grandparents in that catastrophe. Building a bridge there is a challenge at limits of actual technology and also at limits of materials built by human race, and it will be sure a spectacular masterpiece of engineering but in my eyes it is just an ecology monster... 🤔
Because Italian people and Italian government (as a consequence) don't give a shit about Sicily. They prefer spend money to build infrastructures anywhere else but in Sicily.
@@diamanteblu7789 Is that because of the volcanic/seismic activity or the geological composition of the sea floor and beneath? What about other parts of the world like Japan? I just think it would be amazing for the people of Sicily. Anyway the train on a ferry seems like a novel way to attract attention, I mean I'd love to see it. :)
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As Italian, I feel sad because I think Sicilian people deserve better than this, they deserve a bridge like they did in Turkey. But for some reasons, the Italian government wants to keep Sicily poor and underdeveloped. Also trains in Sicily are quite shitty for the same reason.
Ma smettila. Basterebbe manutenzione e fondi, che per ovvi motivi purtroppo non ci sono. Il ponte danneggerebbe sia culturalmente che ecologicamente tutta la sicilia
@@AgenteET786 yes, money and maintenace could help. But the money, the maintenance and the bridge at the same time would be also better. I don't understand how the bridge could reduce the quality of the other infrastructure in the island. I also wonder how a bridge could damage the culture of anybody.
Was asleep when our train boarded the ferry, but Getting off and back onto the rail was really fast. Probably 10 mins if that long. Well executed procedure
Very cool. I rode from Copenhagen to Hamburg Germany a few years ago and the train boarded a ferry at Rodby. However, that train was just a 4 car train that drove itself onto the boat and then off again, unlike this ride where the engines don't ride the boat.
Wonderful, thanks for close-ups. Wanna go
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I did this three years ago and I was so tired at this point I virtually slept through the whole event
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Now that is amazing. A ship carrying a train
Really great video!
Esa experiencia.. La tuve hace unos años cuando venía de milano ala siciliana el tren lo montan al barco por vagon
very interesting! never thought of me before that a ship could carrying trains with very less problem.
The Ratt Pakk And there are also in Denmark, Germany, Great Britain and US on route NJ to NY but not passengers traincars (only freight)
Wow, it's amazing!!
Must take ages to do the unload/load at each end plus reassembling/disassembling the train.
Wow amazing..how could this happen?
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just booked my flight from sicily to rome. Gutted i didnt know about this
Oh~...., but is it necessary to ship train coaches to and fro ? is it cheaper or more efficient? I wonder.
It makes a very easy journey if you can stay in the same coach across the strait. Also the ferry is owned and run by TrenItalia.
it certainly is a slow moving train
superjfbm You have to move a train from the land upto a ferry dividing cabs on three tracks into the ship guts because there are not any ferries 200 meters long. You have to move it slowly to avoid any risk of derailing.
Why is there no bridge to Sicily?
-too expensive for Italy at the moment, especially when cities in the area (Messina and Reggio Calabria) have bigger issues to face
-criminality and corruption level, that would probably make it even more expensive
-highly seismic area, probably one of the most seismic in Europe
Onestly I really hope that one day a bridge will be made there, but at the moment it seems really impossible...
Baltu Lielkungs Gunārs Miezis Messina Strait is 3 Km wide and it is generated by a tectonic fault. You can build a bridge but is a challenge at limits of actual technology and it will cost an insane amount of money. It could be compensated by the fact the building yard will absorbe entire production of steel in Italy for the next 5 years improving economy, but it unsure if the bridge will last 100 years or even lesser amount of time due the continuous earthquakes.
Also any bridge will be interdicted to traffic 100 days out 365 days in one year, due to high speed winds at more than 100Km/h that will made it impracticable during several days in winter and during any violent storm it could occur, fact that will still had required ferry boats operate in these days of wind, resulting keeping active ferrys too.
This fact will result in a parallel loss of money for keeping active the ferries that will drain the bridge renevues.
Furthermore Bridge will also being an ecologic monster covering with its shadow 8/12 hours during daylight heritage lakes present in the Sicilian side of the Strait that are a sanctuary for the migrating birds and that were already endangered by human activities of City of Messina and hundreds houses keeping them darkened by its shadow, making these houses loosing their prices.
So in the end the Bridge is a ugly mess solution.
Only tycoon Silvio Berlusconi wanted the Bridge because he was (still is) a megalomaniac and he wanted to be remembered forever in history as the "man who built the bridge" and made Italian State loosing tenths of milliards Euro in preliminary studies for building it and spending lots of money in useless ancilliary works in order to prepare the big challenge.
He made Italy sign officially for engaging a preliminary building contract, and nowadays the firms that signed the contract asked money back from Italy, including accessory economic damages for the rescission of the contract. 🙄🤦
A bridge in an extremely active Geological area would be most unwise
Nirmala Singh Japanese built Akashi Bridge long 3900 meters (almost 4 Km) and with a central span of 1990 meters (just less than 2 Km) and it sustained major Earthquake of 6,8 Richter moving 1 meter from its previous site without damages.
Bridge on the Strait of Messina should be long 5000 meters including the ramps and with a span of 3200 meters between the two pylons 300 meters high.
Strait is right on a geological fault between Africa and Europe. In 1908 there was an Earthquake there of 7,2 degrees Richter and a Tsunami of 13 meters high. 100.000 died.
My family lost my mom grand grandparents in that catastrophe.
Building a bridge there is a challenge at limits of actual technology and also at limits of materials built by human race, and it will be sure a spectacular masterpiece of engineering but in my eyes it is just an ecology monster... 🤔
Because Italian people and Italian government (as a consequence) don't give a shit about Sicily. They prefer spend money to build infrastructures anywhere else but in Sicily.
A bridge would be an economic boom for Sicily and Italy itself. So its worth the investment.
In the strait of Messina they don't build a bridge for geological reasons
@@diamanteblu7789 Is that because of the volcanic/seismic activity or the geological composition of the sea floor and beneath? What about other parts of the world like Japan? I just think it would be amazing for the people of Sicily. Anyway the train on a ferry seems like a novel way to attract attention, I mean I'd love to see it. :)
are there other reason. why they don't build bridge?
It’s expensive and it is also a geologically active region with volcanoes and stuff.
Dear , I am writing to inquire about your permission to use your video clip. This is , the Korean TV show which is broadcasted on JTBC(Korean TV channel). With your permission, we'd like to use your video clip for introducing the train ferry. It will be broadcasted at 9PM on 5 December 2022. Thank you for your kind attention and look forward to hearing from you.
Yes, please feel free to use the clip. Thank you for asking. I hope your viewers enjoy it!
As Italian, I feel sad because I think Sicilian people deserve better than this, they deserve a bridge like they did in Turkey. But for some reasons, the Italian government wants to keep Sicily poor and underdeveloped. Also trains in Sicily are quite shitty for the same reason.
Ma smettila. Basterebbe manutenzione e fondi, che per ovvi motivi purtroppo non ci sono. Il ponte danneggerebbe sia culturalmente che ecologicamente tutta la sicilia
@@AgenteET786 yes, money and maintenace could help. But the money, the maintenance and the bridge at the same time would be also better.
I don't understand how the bridge could reduce the quality of the other infrastructure in the island.
I also wonder how a bridge could damage the culture of anybody.
@@AgenteET786 and you can tell "ma smettila" to your sister since we have still freedom of speech.
@@ilgattooo
Devasterebbe il fondale e renderebbe la Sicilia globalizzata come la penisola
This is not "tehnology", this is a primitive way to travel in a first world country, 70 years of planning and Italy dosen`t have a bridge to Sicilly.
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