trying to clip things as its a good stream but i doubt people will want to jump in and watch 5 hours. smaller clips might get people interested in watching it
The best way to avoid Twitter drama is not to use Twitter like a therapist. It's really sad how people think they need to put everything on social media.
A major part of the problem is because of how the idea of interaction on the internet has shifted for the worse. It used to be that posting ANY sort of personal information online is the dumbest thing you could do. Anonymity is a protection and there are going to be ppl who are willing to take advantage of those who cede that protection.
Don't have a Twitter account. I don't care for "highschool" level drama. I've never wanted to be famous, believe it or not. I've always considered myself to be just some guy. I want to be better at expressing myself. I've never personally identified with the "Vtuber community." Some people need to realize their personal life and personal problems aren't so important that they need to announce them to the world. We all have problems. A lot of us choose not to burden the world with our own problems. Not trying to hate on anyone, but knowing how to keep things private is part of just being a responsible person.
I think the attempt on trump made some twitter people realize their views are not as widely held as they thought. It’s a strange phenomenon when two twitter communities clash. It’s like they are from different universes and they can’t comprehend that another normal person would think differently than they do.
i have a problem with twitter where i get into arguments i normally wouldn't when i am drunk lmao. idk why alcohol makes me want to internet fight, but outside of that i am pretty measured with most posts.
TikTok has turned into this as well. One of THE most stupid things people do is get a thought in their head to complain about something and IMMEDIATELY run crying to TikTok about it. That's why you get all these compilations of women posting their L's, because when something annoys them, they don't wait a day to stew on it, but immediately run to a social media site to give us their unwanted opinion.
There are roughly 2 current generations that think that getting clout, views, or followers is more important than solving the problem first, or even caring the if the problem is solved.
Often its who is the first one to drop it, and then how much evidence there is. Finally when the 2nd party drops theirs, if they actually have any evidence, public opinion flips.
too many worried avout whether or not they won a twitter argument and not nearly concerned enough witb whether they enjoyed the argument. i just had someone DM me calling me a puss for not reaponding to his tweets that he proved me wrong....i had nonidea what he was talking about i was fucking around and entertsining myself. he was apparently full on debating my troll posts.
I mean to be brutally honest the entire reason they do this is because random drama gets attention that spreads their name around. It isn't like a vtubers real identity is out there in most cases. So they tend to have nothing to lose by trying to be as dramatic as possible because when they graduate no one will be able to tie it to them and they have a group of fans that won't care at all. Due to how a lot of SEO algorithms works it is actually to their advantage to make things as public as possible to get a massive influx of people looking into them in order to boost their audience. So if people want less vtuber drama they'd need to change the incentives social media companies give to people.
Also Drama Tubers the good ones that are not a holes who are fair are need to keep honesty i think. Also i respect what yous have said i don't know who they are love to know of their channels
One is a Vtuber that doesnt have a model but has managed to gain 8k subs in less than 8 months (which is very impressive given he has no backing) who has a background in Public Relations. The other is the owner of a Vtuber focused forum that focuses in documenting and discussing the happenings of the general Vtuber sphere. They are more qualified to talk about this than the average indie Vtuber.
@@AzeharaCh Thanks for the answer. I'm one of Proctors VoD-watchers/ listeners and aware of his forum. Unfamiliar with theArmcha1rExpert, though. The stream is on my list for the next late shift as background noise. I really wanted to throw the therm Twink-Tweeters into the ring. Simple as.
If it was me I wouldn’t actively choose to get involved. I’d rather just play video games on Streams and let stupidity and comedy occur. The problem is the internet forces everyone to remember any and all of the tiniest mishaps, mistakes, and missteps. It can be a double edged sword.
I really don't like emotional appeals. I was raised to always reflect on my own behavior and what I could do differently in order to reach achieve a better outcome. I was never coddled, never shown affection, and only given cynical advice on how to deal with people, especially from my mother. It may sound like I am complaining but the truth is that I am far more advantaged as an adult then many emotionally immature people, now that I am an adult it is possible for me to be totally rational and analytical, and completely supress all of my emotions in order to be calm and in control of every situation that I am in. It was impossible for me to master my emotions as a child, but since I tried so desperately for so long despite it being impossible, it is natural for me now that I am an adult. Letting your emotions guide your actions or decisions is always terrible, there is not a single thing in the world which could be described as Good or Bad based soley on how it makes you feel, real world consequences of your actions and rational arguments are all that matter, not arbitrary morals and personal feelings.
Listen. I was able to overcome my anime racism for Kirsche's sake. I'm sure these fine gentlemen have important and coherant things to say, but i could not tell you what that is. One step at a time.
I like to clip small bits of info coming from people I consider to be fairly knowledgeable of the Vtuber scene. Especially when Pippa or Kirsche talk about it.
i been struggling with maintaining watch time, rebranded my channel for the firth time even dumbed my vroid avatar for a live2d one i bought for 40 bucks on etsy. TH-cam 383 followers Kick 218 followers Twitch 80 followers and I have not once ever made drama content unless discord server infighting leaks onto the stream. and I have been struggling because watch time low i get 1 or 2 people in chat active at most despite my subscriber and follower count and its just intense burnout for me. I can understand the temptation for other smaller vtubers trying to make drama content just to get attention.
Try to advertise yourself somehow. Facebook, TH-cam Shorts, Rddit, anything that helps you get your name out. The average subscriber to watcher percentile is somewhere between 0.5 - 1%. Meaning that you will proably get 5-10 CCV when you are at 1000 subs unless you somehow manage to blow up or have a spotlight on you for something that might have happened.
@@AzeharaCh I do have an X account but it is like shouting into a void filled with GFX artists who follow my account never to be heard from again lol But i do have some decent clips i can make and turn into shorts, I just dont know how to edit stuff like that and i dont know how to upload them as shorts from desktop
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Truuue but from what I have looked into a lot of the instructions to upload youtube shorts on desktop dont make a whole lot of sense and it seems to be a easy to access mobile feature only. Some instruction say you put # Shorts in the video tag when u upload from desktop and i have tried that but it doesnt seem to be a valid method, maybe at one point it was.
You know how they say they aren't your therapist...I think they'd do good to understand their audience isn't their therapist. Same with politics...if you're not known for talking about it keep it out of your profession.
I had to do a double take when I saw the thumbnail. Thanks for clipping this my guy.
trying to clip things as its a good stream but i doubt people will want to jump in and watch 5 hours. smaller clips might get people interested in watching it
Nice vtuber model dude
@@Kurai_69420 Do you mean the chair or the femboy?
Dang, armchair looking really good these days. 😂
@@talkingtakotaco8611 something something, submissive and breedable
To quote the great prophet Mike Tyson, "People have gotten too comfortable. They will say anything without fear of getting punched in the face." Amen
>20th century intellectual discussion
>British guys talking
>21st century intellectual discussion
>same but with anime pngs
Proof that we have truly evolved as an species.
The best way to avoid Twitter drama is not to use Twitter like a therapist. It's really sad how people think they need to put everything on social media.
A major part of the problem is because of how the idea of interaction on the internet has shifted for the worse. It used to be that posting ANY sort of personal information online is the dumbest thing you could do. Anonymity is a protection and there are going to be ppl who are willing to take advantage of those who cede that protection.
Don't have a Twitter account. I don't care for "highschool" level drama. I've never wanted to be famous, believe it or not. I've always considered myself to be just some guy. I want to be better at expressing myself. I've never personally identified with the "Vtuber community." Some people need to realize their personal life and personal problems aren't so important that they need to announce them to the world. We all have problems. A lot of us choose not to burden the world with our own problems. Not trying to hate on anyone, but knowing how to keep things private is part of just being a responsible person.
I think the attempt on trump made some twitter people realize their views are not as widely held as they thought. It’s a strange phenomenon when two twitter communities clash. It’s like they are from different universes and they can’t comprehend that another normal person would think differently than they do.
Echo chambers do that to you.
If vtubers could stop blaming twitter after they do something dumb for 5 minutes twitter would be slightly less awful.
Its common for people to blame everything else other than themselves whenever they screw up.
@@AzeharaCh Yep, no accountability these days 🙄🙄 Funny how the MGS2 AI convo predicted this. "It's not my fault! It's not your fault!" etc.
Stop and think before you use your Twitter fingers
easier said than done
i have a problem with twitter where i get into arguments i normally wouldn't when i am drunk lmao. idk why alcohol makes me want to internet fight, but outside of that i am pretty measured with most posts.
Oh noes, now there are two of them. Azehara what have you done...
Edit: vtubers need to not get trigger happy about opening twitter
>attempts to make an entirely tos safe comment
>keeps going poof
Boy, I sure do love censorship...
It sucks
TikTok has turned into this as well. One of THE most stupid things people do is get a thought in their head to complain about something and IMMEDIATELY run crying to TikTok about it. That's why you get all these compilations of women posting their L's, because when something annoys them, they don't wait a day to stew on it, but immediately run to a social media site to give us their unwanted opinion.
There are roughly 2 current generations that think that getting clout, views, or followers is more important than solving the problem first, or even caring the if the problem is solved.
The problem with twitter is that it is not about who is right, it's about who drops the longest twitlonger about the other person.
Often its who is the first one to drop it, and then how much evidence there is. Finally when the 2nd party drops theirs, if they actually have any evidence, public opinion flips.
@@AzeharaCh Yep yep.
@@AzeharaCh Or not. It seems to depend how long between the documents or the first accusation
too many worried avout whether or not they won a twitter argument and not nearly concerned enough witb whether they enjoyed the argument. i just had someone DM me calling me a puss for not reaponding to his tweets that he proved me wrong....i had nonidea what he was talking about i was fucking around and entertsining myself. he was apparently full on debating my troll posts.
I mean to be brutally honest the entire reason they do this is because random drama gets attention that spreads their name around. It isn't like a vtubers real identity is out there in most cases. So they tend to have nothing to lose by trying to be as dramatic as possible because when they graduate no one will be able to tie it to them and they have a group of fans that won't care at all. Due to how a lot of SEO algorithms works it is actually to their advantage to make things as public as possible to get a massive influx of people looking into them in order to boost their audience. So if people want less vtuber drama they'd need to change the incentives social media companies give to people.
Tbh, that drama that Camilla tried to start with Shondo is why I've never watched her.
I don't normally watch Twitch Vtubers but I agree that when she did that I lost any and all interest I could ever have in watching her.
As someone who watched her """grow""" for over a year I can confidently say you're not missing anything.
Also Drama Tubers the good ones that are not a holes who are fair are need to keep honesty i think. Also i respect what yous have said i don't know who they are love to know of their channels
Drama tubers mention and talk about drama, they dont get INTO drama for the most part.
Twink-Tweeters giving you the best advice for your online career.
We surely live in bizarre times.
One is a Vtuber that doesnt have a model but has managed to gain 8k subs in less than 8 months (which is very impressive given he has no backing) who has a background in Public Relations. The other is the owner of a Vtuber focused forum that focuses in documenting and discussing the happenings of the general Vtuber sphere.
They are more qualified to talk about this than the average indie Vtuber.
@@AzeharaCh Thanks for the answer. I'm one of Proctors VoD-watchers/ listeners and aware of his forum. Unfamiliar with theArmcha1rExpert, though. The stream is on my list for the next late shift as background noise.
I really wanted to throw the therm Twink-Tweeters into the ring. Simple as.
If it was me I wouldn’t actively choose to get involved. I’d rather just play video games on Streams and let stupidity and comedy occur. The problem is the internet forces everyone to remember any and all of the tiniest mishaps, mistakes, and missteps. It can be a double edged sword.
I really don't like emotional appeals. I was raised to always reflect on my own behavior and what I could do differently in order to reach achieve a better outcome.
I was never coddled, never shown affection, and only given cynical advice on how to deal with people, especially from my mother.
It may sound like I am complaining but the truth is that I am far more advantaged as an adult then many emotionally immature people, now that I am an adult it is possible for me to be totally rational and analytical, and completely supress all of my emotions in order to be calm and in control of every situation that I am in.
It was impossible for me to master my emotions as a child, but since I tried so desperately for so long despite it being impossible, it is natural for me now that I am an adult.
Letting your emotions guide your actions or decisions is always terrible, there is not a single thing in the world which could be described as Good or Bad based soley on how it makes you feel, real world consequences of your actions and rational arguments are all that matter, not arbitrary morals and personal feelings.
AZEHARA, why are they twinks😅
He has a type...
Listen. I was able to overcome my anime racism for Kirsche's sake. I'm sure these fine gentlemen have important and coherant things to say, but i could not tell you what that is. One step at a time.
amazing clip to watch and important advice for those just getting into vtubing thank you
I like to clip small bits of info coming from people I consider to be fairly knowledgeable of the Vtuber scene. Especially when Pippa or Kirsche talk about it.
And if you don't have a diary, just make a completely private vent account for all that shit to go to.
i been struggling with maintaining watch time, rebranded my channel for the firth time even dumbed my vroid avatar for a live2d one i bought for 40 bucks on etsy.
TH-cam 383 followers Kick 218 followers Twitch 80 followers and I have not once ever made drama content unless discord server infighting leaks onto the stream.
and I have been struggling because watch time low i get 1 or 2 people in chat active at most despite my subscriber and follower count and its just intense burnout for me.
I can understand the temptation for other smaller vtubers trying to make drama content just to get attention.
You will be noticed by bigger creators eventually. That's when you need your content to be at your best to blow up. Good luck!
Try to advertise yourself somehow. Facebook, TH-cam Shorts, Rddit, anything that helps you get your name out. The average subscriber to watcher percentile is somewhere between 0.5 - 1%. Meaning that you will proably get 5-10 CCV when you are at 1000 subs unless you somehow manage to blow up or have a spotlight on you for something that might have happened.
@@AzeharaCh I do have an X account but it is like shouting into a void filled with GFX artists who follow my account never to be heard from again lol
But i do have some decent clips i can make and turn into shorts, I just dont know how to edit stuff like that and i dont know how to upload them as shorts from desktop
@@VaporShiroVTuberCh welp, you can learn, learning new things is good for your brain.
@@rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Truuue but from what I have looked into a lot of the instructions to upload youtube shorts on desktop dont make a whole lot of sense and it seems to be a easy to access mobile feature only. Some instruction say you put # Shorts in the video tag when u upload from desktop and i have tried that but it doesnt seem to be a valid method, maybe at one point it was.
Hey ArmCha1rExpert, that's a nice vtuber avatar you got there.
Thats a lot of wise words coming from someone still within breeding distance 😤💢💢💢👋!
Very solid advice.
Why does Proctor look like Elizabeth Warren on this Clip? :v
Warren is way less native than that.
My Alpha Centauri plays have been altered by this clip.
F what people think of you. At the end of the day only you can be you. Say what you want or feel. Do not be a slave for others.
You know how they say they aren't your therapist...I think they'd do good to understand their audience isn't their therapist. Same with politics...if you're not known for talking about it keep it out of your profession.
Fusstrates!
He's one of the Kirsche people. FUSS trated
Women ☕
Causing crap and drama is never worth it hurting people is never okay. Also i makes you look much worse in the end