Nahida vs C6 Dendro Traveler Comparison (Feat. Aggravate Keqing)

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  • @akattom
    @akattom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Thanks for the showcase. Ima use Traveller with Keqing for Aggravate and Nahida with Kuki and Yelan for Hyperbloom!

  • @N4xan1nMd
    @N4xan1nMd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    2 dendro team seems like a better idea than other teams, since the abyss rn gives buff to dendro aggrevate and such, but nahida is overall really good cuz her ability wont disappear after applying burgeon, but dendro mc ability just explodes and goes away fast,so i just use him for hyperbloom or aggrevate

  • @emannz2973
    @emannz2973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Your dodging skill is quite impress...i can't do without any healer or shield...therefore i use keqing,nahida,fischl and zhong li wkwkwkw

  • @SleepDeprivedMatt
    @SleepDeprivedMatt ปีที่แล้ว +8

    you can actually make up for the no swirling by using kuki’s burst, it’s a guaranteed swirl as long as her burst is on.

  • @deathmetalalchemist5861
    @deathmetalalchemist5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    if you have Kokomi, she's really good with Dendro MC as you can just drop the jellyfish on the lamp and generate a bunch of cores that way...

  • @justchica3243
    @justchica3243 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was really glad I 90d my traveler long ago cuz I could just slide her into teams right away

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    35-40k Traveler skill for me (barely 110 cdmg,EM sands, Lions Roar)
    Nahida reduces the energy needed, she also is the better choide for Deepwood so Traveler can use mixed set.

  • @szanes
    @szanes ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thank you so much !! this is the best showcase video i've ever seen! and that transition at 0:05 was so smooth :OO
    also, do you think nahida, fischl, keqing and barbara is a good team ?? i wanted to try the nahida team in this video, but i couldn't survive without a healer so i had to replace sucrose with barbara

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its fine. You can also replace Fischl with full EM Kuki so that you can replace Barbara with another Hydro DPS like Xingqiu or Yelan for hyperbloom comp.
      For aggravate comp, you can use Yaoyao instead of Nahida.

  • @clarakhong1148
    @clarakhong1148 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you were to stack an equal amount of EM to Nahida on the Traveler, the comparison would be fairer because Dendro reactions scale on EM.

  • @prathameshhedau
    @prathameshhedau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is the video i needed 🙌
    Lost 50/50 to C2 keqing, still trying to get nahida🤧 or else i will invest in traveller 😅

  • @dendenmushi9714
    @dendenmushi9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dunno. A TC that I follow (Jamie) said that she's a net increase for Keqing but in the current abyss it wasn't as visible (but he did have her 5* weapon). Maybe when your reach talent 10 for her, you can remake a test?
    Based on your vid, she offers about as much damage and buff as C6 Traveller with better ability to whale scale and easier time in wave chamber. But due to the dendro app also harder to use as fast as Dendro MC. What a buff, didn't expect Dendro MC at C6 to be this good. Also Dendro MC C6 is free unlike Nahida at C0.
    Dunno in Nilou Bloom too, it seems that in speedrun she takes too many setup before and that Collei and Dendro MC are faster.
    But she should still be an upgrade under right condition in anywhere else especially as a carry. Overall, She's pretty busted but doesn't completely destroy Dendro MC and Collei at their Niche at C6. Good level of balance I'd say.
    With this I can expect future 4* Dendro to be able to match Nahida in their niche at C6. A dendro specifically made for bloom as Sub-DPS will likely do as well as her, same for other position. Even 5*, already do this with Tigh as Spread DPS in ST.

  • @Zkr7
    @Zkr7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep, 2 Dendro is good, Basically Traveler is worth to build, but in term of Utility and dmg, the answer is obvious

  • @benia3095
    @benia3095 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what I'd like to see is a Nahida vs Yaoyao in aggravate comp, how much damage you lose by changing Nahida for Yaoyao?

  • @BebroSniffer
    @BebroSniffer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    C7 Nahida be like: 0:04

  • @kevinvalencia7982
    @kevinvalencia7982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dendro traveller is really amazing, just that her burst sometimes fail when the enemy likes to move around, burgeon also is better with Nahida

  • @G.Dongio
    @G.Dongio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes travel c6 is a good replace for people that not have Nahida, but vs enemy with high mobility that exit easily from travel burst range Nahida is very valuable.
    For example in this run vs Maguu Kenki luckily he not run away during all travel burst duration

    • @ranjansutradhar1046
      @ranjansutradhar1046 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dendro mc should always be played with a good hydro charecter like mona ayato or kokomi, so the aoe of dendro becomes much larger after that use electro and do hyperbloom , in abyss my 1 team is like that and i haven't faced any problem like aeonbligh Drake too . 😎

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing is even if they are same for Aggro. Nahida is a LOT MORE versatile and works as best in other dendro teams.
    And Nahida's personal damage ain't something to scoff at either.

    • @francescoettwedda-1875
      @francescoettwedda-1875 ปีที่แล้ว

      They re not the same for aggravate. Yeah the gap is not that high but nahida is still a good upgrade to dendro traveler in aggravate

  • @yurimachadodevargas3832
    @yurimachadodevargas3832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    O did not got nahida, but got keking yesterday, so im going tô use deandro traveler

  • @GoldfishOfDoom
    @GoldfishOfDoom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't the traveler's dendro application more as in faster? like he/she creates/causes bloom cores so much faster than Nahida...
    (Traveler's burst does continuous hits (every 1sec/0.5sec 1 hit) while nahida's E marks does slow hits (every 2.5sec/2sec 1 hit + need to be triggered with a reaction which might not happen instantly after the ICD ends...)
    so in that sense the hyperblooms are more often with the traveller and therefore do more consistent damage than Nahida... I have tried this and even I was surprised.... anyways that's what my personal experience is..
    So IMO Nahida is better in aggravate where her damage is proced automatically and almost instantly, unless, as you said you are trying to swirl with a anemo character, but honestly that only happens by chance when nahida's damage was proced causing spread (and removing electro aura/causing ICD for some time) at the same time you tried to swirl, so mostly you can swirl (but ya I get your point of it being irritating and sometimes troublesome)...
    But ya overall nahida IS superior counting her own DPS and Buffs as well...

  • @GabrielSilvaReyes
    @GabrielSilvaReyes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there much difference between the buff of R3 Hakushing vs R5 Thrilling Tales in Sucrose for Aggravate? Btw I love your videos

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really but TTDS is harder to play.

  • @azi729
    @azi729 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    who's better kazuha c0 or sucrose c6 with ttds or hakushin ring?

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C0 Kazuha is generally better than C6 Sucrose in aggravate Keqing cuz his skill CD aligns better with Keqing and he also has better grouping.

  • @harpye9267
    @harpye9267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    have you tried using deepwood on fischl and then gilded on nahida? I'm assuming it's better if u got less than 1000 em on nahida. Great showcase btw.

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It can work but I don't think its ideal to build Fischl as a support.
      So far, I've figured out that Nahida can go EM/EM/Crit if she is paired with Sucrose or C2 Kazuha.

    • @harpye9267
      @harpye9267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​ @F2PKeqing Hm alright, I thought it might be stronger since Nahida usually have stronger dmg than Fish. And Fish doesn't really need a specific artifact set.
      You could also go with em/dendro/crit if you still get close to 1000 with buffs.
      Kinda hard to measure if its actually better or not but I'll do some testing.

    • @inv3301
      @inv3301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harpye9267 fischl does more i think, she procs aggravate, oz dmg, and a4.

    • @BronzzBloodMK2
      @BronzzBloodMK2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This testing is supper rigged and not accurate

  • @betaraybill3112
    @betaraybill3112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question yall, if i am using 1 dendro (nahida/dendro mc) for my keqing agravate, is it best to just go 2pc/2pc or 4pc deepwood?? Implying 2pc2pc and 4pc dw has same crit ratio

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4pc Deepwood on Nahida
      4pc Noblesse or Instructor on Dendro MC

    • @betaraybill3112
      @betaraybill3112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@f2pkeqing thanks bru, also thanks for making me appreciate keqing hehe, i got lucky with pjc so I'll main her now

  • @amdtadho7774
    @amdtadho7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not both in the same team?

  • @samue1_6109
    @samue1_6109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can kuki replace fischl here? Bc I don’t have high constellations and lv on fischl

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C0 Fischl is still the best off-field DPS in aggravate Keqing.

  • @kirayoshikage3226
    @kirayoshikage3226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, what is better em catalyst for nahida, sac frag or the 3* catalyst?

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sac Frag cuz it works in any team comp.

  • @sunsetswan2025
    @sunsetswan2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m just using them both in one team XD

  • @ryuuchiu1113
    @ryuuchiu1113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is keqing collei kokomi fischl good? Im bad at dodging and need some healer

  • @WaitAmHB
    @WaitAmHB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice guide 👍👍👍👍
    Unfortunately I don't have Keqing.
    So is it ok if i use Beidou instead of Keqing until i get her?

    • @FirstNigerianprince
      @FirstNigerianprince 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beidou doesn't reaaally work that well imo, you can use raiden or Yae tho.

    • @WaitAmHB
      @WaitAmHB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Understood Ray but there is another small problem
      I don't have Raiden nor Miko either
      :')

    • @molokwuchinonso9249
      @molokwuchinonso9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beidou is more than fine. Just keep in mind that her damage falls off more in single target content, but she's exceptional in AOE content.

    • @WaitAmHB
      @WaitAmHB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@molokwuchinonso9249 understood and thx
      I thought that i could use Beidou since i don't have other electro main Dps

    • @erickpoandy8500
      @erickpoandy8500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about cyno?

  • @Js_ping
    @Js_ping 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its not fair it should be c6 nahida vs c6 traveller JKJKJK

  • @betawavexo
    @betawavexo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can i ask where to get dendro mc's last constellation? thanks in advance!

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 from Archon Quest and the other 3 from Statue of The Seven.

  • @molokwuchinonso9249
    @molokwuchinonso9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I see. So Nahida is definitely better, but the difference isn't that much?? Awesome. I don't think I'll be able to get Nahida on this banner, so I'll just build DMC then.

    • @Zkr7
      @Zkr7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, in term of one shot... But you know, Traveler have the biggest Problem which is Energy issue

    • @tiagomachado5360
      @tiagomachado5360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zkr7 Sapwood Blade solves that rather well. Ofc you need some energy substats but it gets the job done.

    • @deathmetalalchemist5861
      @deathmetalalchemist5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zkr7 I use an ER sands and fav sword and it's ok, but I'm not really counting on any damage from MC, just dendro app and something to proc cores off of

    • @Zkr7
      @Zkr7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah ER weapon is really necessary for travelers, but in this case, yeah sapwood is best i guess

    • @TenthOfChaos
      @TenthOfChaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use xiphos on traveler and it works great

  • @ryanryan4223
    @ryanryan4223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where to find the last constellation for dendro traveler?

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Archon Quest and Statue of the Seven

  • @renlucifer1860
    @renlucifer1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jade Cutter or Iron sting is good on Aggravate Keqing?

  • @sanket08OP
    @sanket08OP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you tell which sand and circlet we have to use on nahida

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EM/EM/EM

    • @Abdallah__7
      @Abdallah__7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@f2pkeqingcan you explain why triple em instead of em/dendro/crit?

    • @f2pkeqing
      @f2pkeqing  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Abdallah__7 Cuz EM provides crit rate and damage bonus to Nahida. EM is Nahida's most valuable stat until she reaches 1000 EM.

  • @DuyNguyen-cn5lx
    @DuyNguyen-cn5lx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love you. Thanks showcase

  • @nocturnaltale
    @nocturnaltale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well i think it's time for me to lvl 90 my traveler 😂