It's MUCH easier to push the new mineral oil in from the BOTTOM instead of filling from the top. That way the air is pushed up and out as you fill the brake system and reservoir at the brake lever. Just fill the bottom syringe with mineral oil, open the "clamp" on the top syringe, and push the fluid through. Easy peasy.
You probably could've finished your brakes before they even go to the part where they actually start their brakes in the video...long a$$ video for a short simple task
Yessir! They came on the new e-bike. I played with them for 2 hours yesterday.. couldn't get the air out of the line... I think they're defective... possibly a bad o-ring??? IDK... I've bleed them using 2 different methods... still a TON of air... I've been in contact w/ Velowave (the bike company) since I got the bike... and they're sending me out replacements... BUT they're coming from China.. so it'll be a while before I have rear brakes that work... Soon as I got the bike, I put 35 PSI in the tires and the front tube EXPLODED after 5 minutes... I haven't had much luck... Got a flat in the rear Friday night... Got out of work early (1:30am) and ran over a 4" nail...
Nice, a question i have. What is the reason you put the red strap holding the lever back squeezing the brake before you put the screw back on? I have not seen that in any other bleeding video? Can you explain that in detail? What that does?
I just did mine with marine trim tilt fluid. I left some in the syringe with a rubber seal so I'll see if it'll be detrimental. It should be fine though. Most tilt trim systems have rubber orings, and it's a similar viscosity. It also has additives for seal life, water repellent, and sheer strength.
Thank you Dixxie- we are def youtube grinders and hope for more and more success over time. We appreciate the comment very nice of you, hope you continue to watch and tell your FRIENDS!!😉 LATER MAN and see you christmas!!
It looks like those Zoom brakes are a good candidate for a gravity bleed. I did it on a rear Shimano with a long aquarium tube on the caliper nipple going off to a can to catch the waste. I left the rotor and rear tire on, spilled about 2 drops of oil and got great results. The syringe at the lever would just make gravity a little faster.
Yes!! I did and it bled a lot easier. Just make sure you dont loose the little bitty o-ring. I had to replace mine. I believe it goes on the caliper side, so you may wanna be careful:)
Hey your product links are sold out 🙋 Is there away to find them anywhere else I can't figure out if the other universal kits have the zoom break connectors
Thanks. All was going well until I broke the tiny thread end off one of the syringe tubes. Very fragile! Barely any force the snap it off. Going to try to just fill from the top until it seems all air is out (opening the bottom screw just enough to let the fluid drip out into a cup). Hope that will work as am unable to find just the “nipple” to buy a new one.
My son has had these zoom brakes on front of his bike for a couple years, and they have been great. I just ordered the rear because his mechanical rear is no longer safe. Ill use your video for my install. Thank you! PS. Stay out of pops area!
When y’all shortened the hose what barb and olive did you use. A zoom specific or does a shimano bh90 work. What was used if it wasn’t one of those ???
I just put a pair of these on my Aluminum Comp. They're starting to show up on Amazon with the hoses swapped for North America so hopefully that takes care of the contaminated oil problem.
Man I heard that too, I would love to get some more. Especially if they are the correct way! A little hard to switch, when they are available we will def get some! Thanks man, they are not too bad.
Haven't made the hydro upgrade thing yet. I have some good TRP Spyke mechanical disc brakes, levers, rotors, calipers, dics, (180>f - 160>r), ceramic pads, Jagwire cables and housings. My buddies that have riden my bike, say they're not quite as good as their hydro brakes, but, pretty darn close. Adjustment and setup were easy enough, haven't looked back since. Pricey but without hydro problems. Just my humble opinion. Now, after that being said, this video has me thinking hydro....... hmmmmm......... Thanks a lot, now I gotta get new brakes, Dangit!
Man watching our stuff will do that or make you not want something!!LOL But the hydro brakes are very nice and lighter overall. The immediate stopping power is great, yeah you have to bleed overtime and all but man at $43-$80.....Not a bad and safe upgrade:) Have a good one OL' Roy!!! Cool your watching some older vids!!!
We ordered these brakes from aliexpress and of course they came reversed despite the product description. The 1400mm rear hose is too short to run under the BB of the schwinn boundary like your taff, but we chose to reroute the tubing under the top tube and down the seat-stay which allowed us to stick with 1400mm. We just needed to swap the hoses at the master cylinder side. We did not do a bleed and it is working well. Can you tell us which shimano barb and olive you used for your hose replacement? I think it will probably be BH59 as used in the shimano MT200. Thanks.
Bh59 set is it man, we ordered. Tube set and it was labeled that. Hope it goes well and surprised it was nice and tight even though you didnt bleed! That's a plus, thanks for commenting man and hope to see you back here for CHRISTMAS!!
How do you adjust the brakes if you just have half tread on pads but don't have air in a line they are zoom HB something hydraulics, PS that's the way China does it they run backwards brakes so your was normal parts
Man I would just replace the pads for cheap$ But I would not know how to answer that, since they are hydraulic there may not be a lot of options. Now we completely understand that is the way they ride in china:) Thanks!!
I have watched this twice and have a question. Which style of olive did you guys use when making the rear brake line? BH59, BH90 or Techtro style. I have to replace a line on a set of these Zooms as well.
The olives are the same for 90 n 59. What's different is the insert. The inserts or needles correspond to the inner diameter of the brake hose. BH 90 has smaller inner diameter as compared to BH 59. OD are the same. No problem if you are changing the whole brake hose not so when you are just shortening it. So zoom brake hose uses which insert/needle?
I’m no closer to knowing how to do this than before l watched the video. You didn’t take me through each step in the process. You Hooked up a tube here, you unscrewed something there and viola! Brake bleed done!
😆In all fairness as stated at 6:54 this is not a how to video, we are not professionals, and we don't know what we are doing🤣. If you need some questions answered that didn't get answered in the video, I will make sure that Jeremiah gets to them asap. These brakes have been trouble from the start.
I appreciate you putting this video out. I have the Meroca 4 piston and haven’t had to bleed yet, but the meroca 2 piston on my mongoose ardor needs some bleeding love.
Ha ha ha funny man, it's very confusing and to be honest....I'm not too sure either brother. I read and research then ask the guys at the bike shop!! Never hurts to ask but man I will see what we can do when it comes to more collections on the future. Thank you for watching.
The green fluid is power steering fluid for european vehicles. It's a know alternative to bicycle brake mineral oil. There are posts on race teams using the Pentosin brand fluid.
Hey tick you keep out of wolfmans space or he will bite you . No but good educational vid guys . So answer the question about humpty . Rockshox or x fusion. If you could only have one which one ?
Well Richard.....I have got to get some more time with the fusion's brother. I have honestly rode them that once so far! Its killing me but man, the rockshox are gonna be hard to beat but I think the fusion's may overtake them!! They are butter man, but WE WILL SEE LOL. thank you Richard and we will find out sooner or later ha, see you on Chriatmas brother
I tried to do this on an ebike without taking off wheel and the cylinder popped out. I tried to push back in but seems like fluid is leaking from cylinder.
I just bought a set of zoom brakes for my e-bike, putting them in tomorrow, your videos will help me out, also I want to get into mma, would you ever help someone train?
I do not have this Zoom Brake Bleed kit, but I have an Ali Express one, the EZBleed kit. For all the brakes I’ve ever tried to bleed, worked fine. For bleed fluid, now I use Ambra Brake, with is a mineral oil base fluid designed for heavy machinery. It has a boiling point on 290 Celsius degrees and fully compatible with mineral oil brakes. Where I live it is easier to find then, than find a bike specific brake fluid. And also cheaper.
HA HA Thanks man!! Appreciate you watching, got your comment in the other video and asked you to watch this LOL , looks like you beat me to it!! Thanks LeOnline:)
Hey thank s brother, it is really nice when you have the correct tools!! LOL I rode today and wow such a difference:) Thanks U.P.O #WOLFTICKNATION OUT!!!
Lol!! I'm glad you watched that long ha ha I was hoping people would make it that far in!! Very funny but man the zooms arent nearly as strong as the 200's but not too far off, for the price we got them at I would def buy another set.
Ha ha ha coming up!! Now we also have the MT200'S and they are more comparable to the zooms. The mt420s absolutely blow the zooms out of the water lol. But compared to the 200's they arent as strong overall but still a steel if you can get them around 40 dollar area. I would buy some more if I needed some.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS no i think i did it right its just now they seem like i have to pull harder to stop. only the rear brake is doing this seems squishy..advice??
Ok, well it sounds like you have air in the lines...If it gets better after squeezing a few times then it may be air, if it does not firm up and still persists, try bleeding them and keeping the levers mounted on the bar and removing calipers from bike, now be sure and tap the calipers while letting fluid flow thru, it should free up any air bubbles. 2 person job!! LOL GOOD LUCK!
We do not think you guys are full of holiday cheer today!!!! Nice job guys.....this whole thing is actually very similar to working with lines in ICU as a nurse hahaha....hahaha slo mo face squirt!!!!
I bled my tekto brakes you couldn't use the shimano funnel at all. I had to use a syringe and an overfill tube. I did screw up and forget the bleed block holy crap what a mess.
If u have problems with the rear brake, take the rear tire off and squeeze the brake without the bleed blocks and start filling!, If u put too much in it'll ooze out before u completely tighten the bleed screw back in the master. Also, zip tie the lenders in over night, put the bike in the stands and angle the bike nose up towards the levers. Tap the lines and let it sit overnight, it'll be spongy in the morning and just add more oil and you should be good! Just a few hacks I've learned as I have magura and those can be notoriously tricky to dial in perfect but good luck to ya and be safe out there! 👍🙋
Thank you Mikey, very useful info man. It took a min and was getting worries, I actually left the strap on there over night lol, but thank you for the great info!!
The only problem I am finding with these brakes is that it is sometimes very difficult to switch out the rear hose on the lever because the zoom factory crushes the olive down so tight it makes it almost impossible to get the hose out. Secondly, you must be very careful not to strip the retaining screw when replacing it or your reservoir will leak. I found this out the hard way, I now have to re-order a left brake lever, and of course, it will come with a front brake line that will have to be replaced for the rear. Seems this process never ends...
Ha ha ha! Very true man, never ending and very damn hard to get the hose out!!! Lol had dad holding one end with channel locks! Good thing I ordered a seperate hose kit.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Ya man, it's a bummer. I'm almost tempted to put my cable brakes back on. Next time I order Hydraulic brakes I think I will spring for Shimano, they are more expensive but most likely very much better built and you can work on them much easier.
I can feel the love in that opening.. In the UK they have brake handle's reversed. Oh don't worry I don't think you're a professional.. hahaha Stay frosty brother
I'm in the UK too and I have noticed that our American friends put the leavers on the oppisit sides to us .After rideing motorcycles for over 50 years I think I would be over the handlebars before I got to the first turn if I got on one of there bikes lol
Thanks Mag! Now a future endeavor maybe??But what about a bike PARK!!! Now that would be awesome someday:):):)m Thanks man and sent your tool out TODAY!!!! Merry Christmas Magnum
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS thanks so much , merry Christmas for u and your dad as well, you guys are awesome, many blessings 🙏 for both of you and your family as well
That intro though way to keep it real. In all honesty though I'd much rather see two real people arguing than two fake people just trying to put on a good show for people I loved it also reminds me of me and my dad
Nice kit and far cheaper than the Park Tool kit. I have been using drug store mineral oil. Berm Peak did an episode about it. Dirt cheap and pretty much the same stuff.
Lol Shimano mineral oil and drug store stuff does not take the same temps. If you’re casually riding I’m sure it works just fine, but if your doing heavy riding with lots of downhill braking you’ll smoke drug store oil.
Try unscrewing reach adjustment screw all the way out, then push the piston in a few times with a flathead, re attach the lever and give it a squeeze. Good Luck
Oh you may be interested we have done a mt200 vid and a mt420 vid as well. Recently installed a pair on the Malus and about to be on the Al Comp so ya Thanks👍👍
Actually it's more like 6:30 when we start working on the brakes😂. People will probably be best suited using the time stamp in the description though because at 2:20 we show the kit that most people will need to bleed them🧑🔧. Do people look in the comments more than the description to find time stamps🤔? We have had a few people do what you did, and I'm not sure if it is a genuine attempt at being helpful 😀or a passive aggressive statement😈. Can you please clarify for us so we know if we should just put time stamps in the comments in the future. Thanks🥰👍
Early for me today, I'm on a roll! 😂 That intro was getting a bit lairy!😂😂 Funny to watch though and good to see you can both laugh about it! How was that faceful of mineral oil? I bet you didn't expect that when you woke up that morning 😂😂 Very comprehensive looking kit, should be able to bleed anything with that. Must do mine one day... Great video as always, take care 😎🍻
Hey Dan, mineral oil wasn't too bad!! Lol and man you were extremely early👍 surprised ha ha we tend to either laugh during or after stuff like that when we edit later on in the night. Very cool! Thanks Dan
HA HA Damn UK!!! See you Christmas morning for the shoutout/mailtime/Al Comp VIDEO brother!! You will enjoy:) Thanks Dan and see ya man!Do they do CHRISTMAS in the UK???
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yeh bro I'm looking forward to it. Christmas is a huge thing over here, but the area I'm in is in lock down due to covid, so no visiting family or anything like that. It'll be a quiet one this year, but you've got make the best of it 😁🍻 Hope you guys have a great Christmas, happy holidays! 🍻
Just like here thats a bummer man:( We will make the best thats for sure, got some cool gifts man, have a great one Dan and be safe brother! Merry Christmas
Cool now I know how to bleed my brakes! Thanks guys. Well I know of some Cat on YT, who uses baby mineral oil to bleed his brakes with 🤷♂️. Merry Christmas 🎄& best wishes to you folks for the New Year.
You two should create separate channel, where you talk about random stuff, and just go at it. Maybe even do a segment like from Family Guy, what grinds my gear. It would be hilarious. And for the next batch of stickers, you really should add: We are not professionals on it. It starting to be your tag line :D that kit is amazing for that price. especially for those who have more than one bike, with different types of brakes and oils. I was surprised how much you get in one package.
LOL Man we wouldent get any VIEWS!!! HA HA:) Thanks for that!! Like the grind my gears SEGMENT idea! Very good deal we thought as well man, appreciate you watching:) Oh and for sure on the NOT PROFESSIONALS!! Gonna steal that one too!
I just installed the Zoom Xtech Hydraulic brakes on my MTB. They work EXCELLENT! No hassle, No bleeding, and they look AWSOME. Red calipers against the stainless rotors on a black frame, looks totally SICK! I also want to make another point on why hybrid (hydraulic/mechanical) brakes are a better choice, for my situation anyway. I have a 2019 Schwinn Taff that I rebuilt from the wheels up. I ordered two new rims from Schwinn at $22.00 a piece and new Shimano quick release hubs, new tires and tubes and rebuilt some nice wheels with stainless spokes. I put on an entire new cockpit, red handlebars, a new stem and locking hand grips. When I was thinking about changing out the mechanical disk brakes for hydraulic I naturally had to replace the integrated Shimano shifters/lever cluster that came stock on the bike. So, I bought a new 3x8 Shimano shifter set to put on the bars with the new hydraulic levers. Then I found out about the hybrid Zoom Xtech hydraulic brakes that use existing cable pull levers. I ended up putting my integrated Shimano shifter/lever cluster back on the bars and just running the brake cable to the Zoom Xtech hydraulic calipers. Instead of changing out the entire cockpit for a traditional hydraulic brake system I could use my existing Shimano shift/lever cluster with the new Zoom Xtech hydraulic brakes. The stopping force is UNBELIEVABLE! I'm so glad I decided to switch everything back to original so I could hook up the Xtech hydraulic brakes. I like the HUMPTY DUMPTY build you and wolf (Dad) did on the Taff. I would like to send you a picture of all the work I have done on my Taff. Believe it or not, I paid $189.00 for my Taff brand new at Walmart. To date my total expenses on the entire rebuild is $1,300.00. Let me know how I can shoot you a pic. Thanks buddy!
Man that sounds awesome!! So glad they worked for ya:) We will be ordering some soon im sure if dad had not drunken ebayed them already ha ha. You can email us and please add who you are and a few upgrades. Thanks man
The into is amazing you should have it on every video. Really liked the video I’m actually going to get a upgrade list together for my boundary. It was going to be my dirt jumper but seeing Walmart jack up the price on the Axum by 200 bucks I guess no dirt jumper this year. 🤬🤬🤬 not happy with Walmart at all.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I know it sucks I really want it to be my trail bike. My wife said tonight just buy it 😂 but the extra 200 bucks just irritates me because your get nothing for the extra cash... they could put hydraulic disc brakes on it then maybe I would get over it.
If you break down the Axum especially now with the higher price, it's not a great deal. You are 100% correct on them needing to add some hydraulic brakes or something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't it come with a dang freewheel as well? Thanks man
@@joshschow5848 Okay that's why we wanted the Axum at $399. I couldn't remember what it was that had us trying to order the Axum more than once, that was it. Well now it's down to the Schwinn trio of Taff $298, Boundary $248, and Aluminum Comp $224 plus a $70 dollar rear wheel with quick release and freehub. Thanks for the info, and hopefully you enjoy this Al Comp build that we are about to do.
Hey Jeremiah, just wanted to let you know before ordering a new brake set from ZOOM. I just found a hydraulic hybrid by ZOOM, it's called "XTECH". It's a Mechanical/Hydraulic brake. It is actuated through mechanical brake levers that attach to a hydraulic caliper. This way you do not need brake hoses and don't have to hassle with pulling crushed olives out of hydraulic levers and changing them around. You just simply set up the levers on the handlebars like regular mechanical brakes, run the cable and housing to the caliper and attach it like a regular mechanical brake. Only difference is the pistons inside the caliper are actuated by hydraulic fluid inside the caliper, so no messy bleeding is required. I'm gonna order me a set. You can find them for $46.97 for front and rear on ebay. Just thought you might want to do a video on how to set these brakes up. I think they are going to be a big seller because there is practically none to very little hassle setting them up. Thanks for listening bro. Go check them out...
Hey David thanks for the heads up man, I have heard of them but though they were more expensive but man we will give you credit on that if we partake!! LOL Thanks man very cool
Man they are cheap but bleeding would be about an every year thing most like if you ride the hell out of it.... Have you thought about the hydraulic cable actuated brakes??
Save yourself time. The how-to starts at 6:30
Save yourself even more time by checking in the description for timestamps😜.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS save yourself even more time and don't watch the video
It's MUCH easier to push the new mineral oil in from the BOTTOM instead of filling from the top. That way the air is pushed up and out as you fill the brake system and reservoir at the brake lever. Just fill the bottom syringe with mineral oil, open the "clamp" on the top syringe, and push the fluid through. Easy peasy.
I was wondering the same
That's how we filled the brakes on the Cessna we used to fly skydivers...It works real fast too
I'm watching this instead of bleeding my brakes.
I know the feeling
Hell yeah, sounds like you are getting a bunch accomplished regardless!! Lol thank you for taking the time👍
You probably could've finished your brakes before they even go to the part where they actually start their brakes in the video...long a$$ video for a short simple task
@@davek2690 You do realize that you watched this for free...right?😉😆
Me too
Watching this as I prepare to do my first brake bleed
😯😯😯 Man we are not responsible for any damages and or losses!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😁
Why do you put a strap on the lever? Is it so you can fill it slightly more before you put the screw cap on for a more firm lever feel?
Yes, that and keeping some fluid in the pistons.
Yessir! They came on the new e-bike. I played with them for 2 hours yesterday.. couldn't get the air out of the line... I think they're defective... possibly a bad o-ring??? IDK... I've bleed them using 2 different methods... still a TON of air...
I've been in contact w/ Velowave (the bike company) since I got the bike... and they're sending me out replacements... BUT they're coming from China.. so it'll be a while before I have rear brakes that work... Soon as I got the bike, I put 35 PSI in the tires and the front tube EXPLODED after 5 minutes... I haven't had much luck... Got a flat in the rear Friday night... Got out of work early (1:30am) and ran over a 4" nail...
😯😯 What a bummer man, hopefully everything gets sorted out. I think you will like the next ebike!! Fatty magic with a folding middle 👍
Nice, a question i have. What is the reason you put the red strap holding the lever back squeezing the brake before you put the screw back on? I have not seen that in any other bleeding video? Can you explain that in detail? What that does?
I just did mine with marine trim tilt fluid. I left some in the syringe with a rubber seal so I'll see if it'll be detrimental. It should be fine though. Most tilt trim systems have rubber orings, and it's a similar viscosity. It also has additives for seal life, water repellent, and sheer strength.
Great job! Very helpful how you got to the point and had great video shots for illustrations.
HOW ARE THESE GUYS SO UNDERATED OMG WHY DO U ONLY HAVE 5K SUBS
Thank you Dixxie- we are def youtube grinders and hope for more and more success over time. We appreciate the comment very nice of you, hope you continue to watch and tell your FRIENDS!!😉 LATER MAN and see you christmas!!
It looks like those Zoom brakes are a good candidate for a gravity bleed. I did it on a rear Shimano with a long aquarium tube on the caliper nipple going off to a can to catch the waste. I left the rotor and rear tire on, spilled about 2 drops of oil and got great results. The syringe at the lever would just make gravity a little faster.
Good input man, we may try that on the next. Thanks for watching and LOVE THE CHANNEL NAME!!! HA HA
Regarding metall ring in brake lever. R we supposed to remove it or have it on while bleeding brakes?
Yes!! I did and it bled a lot easier. Just make sure you dont loose the little bitty o-ring. I had to replace mine. I believe it goes on the caliper side, so you may wanna be careful:)
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS im talking about this: i.ibb.co/WHdqD3X/880a8ad9-6d76-42c9-aff8-648200fdd5ab.jpg - its in the brake lever
Gotcha, in the lever portion, I removed it.
Hey your product links are sold out 🙋
Is there away to find them anywhere else I can't figure out if the other universal kits have the zoom break connectors
Hey brother, thank you for letting us know. Here is an affiliate link:) amzn.to/3uxGzlU
Thanks. All was going well until I broke the tiny thread end off one of the syringe tubes. Very fragile! Barely any force the snap it off. Going to try to just fill from the top until it seems all air is out (opening the bottom screw just enough to let the fluid drip out into a cup). Hope that will work as am unable to find just the “nipple” to buy a new one.
Man, be super careful!! If you watched the Meroca bleed video, I messed it up and ruined the threads!! Thanks for watching brother and better luck!!
The bolt of the refilling valve that tightens on the zoom handlebars, snapped before tightening it. Now I have the tip stuck inside my zoom brake..
Well they have a bit that is meant to pull out broken bolts?? That is a bummer man
My son has had these zoom brakes on front of his bike for a couple years, and they have been great. I just ordered the rear because his mechanical rear is no longer safe. Ill use your video for my install. Thank you! PS. Stay out of pops area!
When y’all shortened the hose what barb and olive did you use. A zoom specific or does a shimano bh90 work. What was used if it wasn’t one of those ???
Shimano bh90 works well, it is what was listed on the housing set I ordered. Let me see if we can find an affiliate link man..amzn.to/2SEvsJ5
Yay for brakes! Tubage for the stopage!
😂😂😂🤦♂️ I'm so glad someone understands me.lol
Y'all are a riot to watch loved the intro
Hey man that's always great to hear. We are so happy when people enjoy our dysfunction😜🤣 Thanks man hope you subed.
Wishing you guys a great Christmas and a successful 2021!!
Thank you very much Roni, we appreciate that brother. Have a great 2021 as well!
I just put a pair of these on my Aluminum Comp. They're starting to show up on Amazon with the hoses swapped for North America so hopefully that takes care of the contaminated oil problem.
Man I heard that too, I would love to get some more. Especially if they are the correct way! A little hard to switch, when they are available we will def get some! Thanks man, they are not too bad.
Nice video! Congrats on 5k!
Thanks Alex! Appreciate the coffee man! See you Friday for the Shoutout vid👍👍👍
Haven't made the hydro upgrade thing yet. I have some good TRP Spyke mechanical disc brakes, levers, rotors, calipers, dics, (180>f - 160>r), ceramic pads, Jagwire cables and housings. My buddies that have riden my bike, say they're not quite as good as their hydro brakes, but, pretty darn close. Adjustment and setup were easy enough, haven't looked back since. Pricey but without hydro problems. Just my humble opinion. Now, after that being said, this video has me thinking hydro....... hmmmmm......... Thanks a lot, now I gotta get new brakes, Dangit!
Man watching our stuff will do that or make you not want something!!LOL But the hydro brakes are very nice and lighter overall. The immediate stopping power is great, yeah you have to bleed overtime and all but man at $43-$80.....Not a bad and safe upgrade:) Have a good one OL' Roy!!! Cool your watching some older vids!!!
Jag PRO cables make huge difference it the feel, especially the rear brakes.
We ordered these brakes from aliexpress and of course they came reversed despite the product description. The 1400mm rear hose is too short to run under the BB of the schwinn boundary like your taff, but we chose to reroute the tubing under the top tube and down the seat-stay which allowed us to stick with 1400mm. We just needed to swap the hoses at the master cylinder side. We did not do a bleed and it is working well.
Can you tell us which shimano barb and olive you used for your hose replacement? I think it will probably be BH59 as used in the shimano MT200. Thanks.
Bh59 set is it man, we ordered. Tube set and it was labeled that. Hope it goes well and surprised it was nice and tight even though you didnt bleed! That's a plus, thanks for commenting man and hope to see you back here for CHRISTMAS!!
How do you adjust the brakes if you just have half tread on pads but don't have air in a line they are zoom HB something hydraulics, PS that's the way China does it they run backwards brakes so your was normal parts
Man I would just replace the pads for cheap$ But I would not know how to answer that, since they are hydraulic there may not be a lot of options. Now we completely understand that is the way they ride in china:) Thanks!!
I have watched this twice and have a question. Which style of olive did you guys use when making the rear brake line? BH59, BH90 or Techtro style. I have to replace a line on a set of these Zooms as well.
Hey brother here is an affiliate link, it was the Bh59 style. This is a U.S. Seller and doesnt seem like a bad rice:) Thanks for asking ebay.us/tW0gFP
The olives are the same for 90 n 59. What's different is the insert. The inserts or needles correspond to the inner diameter of the brake hose. BH 90 has smaller inner diameter as compared to BH 59. OD are the same. No problem if you are changing the whole brake hose not so when you are just shortening it. So zoom brake hose uses which insert/needle?
My old magura rim hydraulic breaks it was tricky but I got it.
Dude the Zoom was a little tricky but we will see how the end result is:)
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yes I had to tip lay my bike down for the Magura brakes but the end result they are working
Cool man, glad to hear:)
That intro was awesome lol
Thank you Mr.Carson!
You ever hear of "Logan" brakes? I can't find any specific how to videos on them...
Never have brother?? E bike brakes I take it??
how did you flush the brakes without a bleed valve screw like on shimano calipers
Man there was a bleed valve screw....checkout the 7:34 mark:) Let me know man, thanks
That intro is me and my dad to a T lol god yall crack me up! Hope yall have a great Christmas
Appreciate you STEVE!! GLAD YOU ENJOYED AND SORRY TOO!!😂😂😂 MERRY CHRISTMAS "YOU KNOW!!"
What type of attachments do zoom brakes use if you need to replace the hydraulic lines?
Hey brother, all Shimano bh59 stuff.
Here is an affiliate link
amzn.to/3uZJa9X
What hydraulic hose compatible on zoom breaks? BH 59 or the BH90?
BH59
Thank you 😊
I’m no closer to knowing how to do this than before l watched the video. You didn’t take me through each step in the process. You Hooked up a tube here, you unscrewed something there and viola! Brake bleed done!
😆In all fairness as stated at 6:54 this is not a how to video, we are not professionals, and we don't know what we are doing🤣. If you need some questions answered that didn't get answered in the video, I will make sure that Jeremiah gets to them asap. These brakes have been trouble from the start.
I appreciate you putting this video out. I have the Meroca 4 piston and haven’t had to bleed yet, but the meroca 2 piston on my mongoose ardor needs some bleeding love.
If you could do a video on which type of hydraulic brakes meant for which mineral oil. Til now I'm confused about that.
Ha ha ha funny man, it's very confusing and to be honest....I'm not too sure either brother. I read and research then ask the guys at the bike shop!! Never hurts to ask but man I will see what we can do when it comes to more collections on the future. Thank you for watching.
I used the metal adapters. Seem to work better on mine. And I used mine on a hope one and old magura rim break
I wanna try different types as well, also gotta try the metal? Plastic was pretty good though lol.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS the metal ones had better grip no air to get in.
Gotta check that out, maybe on some down time:) Thanks Man
The green fluid is power steering fluid for european vehicles. It's a know alternative to bicycle brake mineral oil. There are posts on race teams using the Pentosin brand fluid.
Hmmm....That is interesting and funny. You ever hear of using baby oil!!???
Hey tick you keep out of wolfmans space or he will bite you . No but good educational vid guys . So answer the question about humpty . Rockshox or x fusion. If you could only have one which one ?
Well Richard.....I have got to get some more time with the fusion's brother. I have honestly rode them that once so far! Its killing me but man, the rockshox are gonna be hard to beat but I think the fusion's may overtake them!! They are butter man, but WE WILL SEE LOL. thank you Richard and we will find out sooner or later ha, see you on Chriatmas brother
I tried to do this on an ebike without taking off wheel and the cylinder popped out. I tried to push back in but seems like fluid is leaking from cylinder.
🤔🤔🤔So the cylinders on the inside of the caliper??? If so maybe a oring....
I just bought a set of zoom brakes for my e-bike, putting them in tomorrow, your videos will help me out, also I want to get into mma, would you ever help someone train?
Awesome man, and yes that's what I do lol. I teach, train and coach. Looking at MMA based training or No Gi Jiu-Jitsu?
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I’m think MMA but would also like to try jujitsu, we’re are you located?
Question, the brass olive, does it specifically have to be zoom, or I can use a shimano brass olive after cutting my hose to fit?
I used my shimano man, it worked perfectly:)
When you removed the breakpads did u fully straighten the thing that locks it? (The pin looking thing)
Yes straightened it out completely, they are called cotter pins. Meant to do that😉😉😉
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Alright thanks alot!! I’ll try bleeding my zoom breaks soon.
Good luck man, hope it goes well and may want to get the correct kit;) NO SHIMANO HA HA HA!!
Good Morning guys and have a Great day today 🤘🏽👊🏽
Good morning back at you. Thanks Delbert
I do not have this Zoom Brake Bleed kit, but I have an Ali Express one, the EZBleed kit. For all the brakes I’ve ever tried to bleed, worked fine.
For bleed fluid, now I use Ambra Brake, with is a mineral oil base fluid designed for heavy machinery. It has a boiling point on 290 Celsius degrees and fully compatible with mineral oil brakes. Where I live it is easier to find then, than find a bike specific brake fluid. And also cheaper.
Hmmm, I may look into that? May be a good video to try out other stuff. Thanks that sounds interesting
there is one called ezmtb bleed kit
Thanks for sharing
HA HA Thanks man!! Appreciate you watching, got your comment in the other video and asked you to watch this LOL , looks like you beat me to it!! Thanks LeOnline:)
Get on with it already!!
Got on it!🤣 Time stamps are usually in the description😉 Thanks for watching👍
Can I use Shimano oil instead of tektro?
Yes they are both mineral oil👍
What size of Allen key use to unscrew the zoom bleeding hole?
Not too sure brother, it's been awhile since we have done anything to that bike...
Which is better from tektro m275 & zoom hydraulic breaks?
Man I cant say I would know?? I havent had tektro yet but its funny you asked!! We ordered some and shoud be here next week!! The Zooms are not bad:)
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS thanks sir ..from philippines
The plastic ones is to avoid damage to the treads
Ok, I was curious why it came with metal??
🤣🤣 that intro was funny I really like y’all dynamic reminds me of me and my dad when he was still here.
We love that our dysfunction is relatable to so many people🤣We have a 24hour a day 💩 show going on over here😂🎅 Thanks man👍
Great and entertaining bleed..... I really need to do this to my FX3
Hey thank s brother, it is really nice when you have the correct tools!! LOL I rode today and wow such a difference:) Thanks U.P.O #WOLFTICKNATION OUT!!!
what's in your Ears Bro? Thanks for the Video!
🤣 It's cauliflower from grappling my whole life. LOL
We have the same zoom brakes
THATS WONDERFUL!! Thank you for watching:)
Any one know the bleed screw size on hydraulic zoom brakes lever?
i broke the bleed fitting, is it m4?
Not to sure brother, hopefully someone can help...
what oil did u use??
Shimano mineral oil, checkout the affiliate links below.
It's still 19 to drink in Canada it's only 18 in Quebec and I think Alberta
And which are you from?
How would you compare the Zoom brakes to the Shimano MT200? (BTW I was dying laughing with the slo-mo squirt to the face at the end! )
Lol!! I'm glad you watched that long ha ha I was hoping people would make it that far in!! Very funny but man the zooms arent nearly as strong as the 200's but not too far off, for the price we got them at I would def buy another set.
Nice video....now bleed the mt 420s. By the way what feels better the Zooms or the mt420s?
Ha ha ha coming up!! Now we also have the MT200'S and they are more comparable to the zooms. The mt420s absolutely blow the zooms out of the water lol. But compared to the 200's they arent as strong overall but still a steel if you can get them around 40 dollar area. I would buy some more if I needed some.
Merry Christmas eve
🎅🎅 Well HoHoHo brother! Hope all is well and you are doing great! See you tomorrow man!
What brake pads do these use?
hey brother here is an affiliate link:)amzn.to/3s5zrKM
Intro had me dying lol 😆 earned a like and sub
Welcome to the ##wolfticknation 👍🏼 appreciate it brother.
Welcome to the ##wolfticknation 👍🏼 appreciate ya brother.
Im having same issue with the zoom brakes
Man did you mount yours upside down??
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS no i think i did it right its just now they seem like i have to pull harder to stop. only the rear brake is doing this seems squishy..advice??
Ok, well it sounds like you have air in the lines...If it gets better after squeezing a few times then it may be air, if it does not firm up and still persists, try bleeding them and keeping the levers mounted on the bar and removing calipers from bike, now be sure and tap the calipers while letting fluid flow thru, it should free up any air bubbles. 2 person job!! LOL GOOD LUCK!
We do not think you guys are full of holiday cheer today!!!! Nice job guys.....this whole thing is actually very similar to working with lines in ICU as a nurse hahaha....hahaha slo mo face squirt!!!!
NOOOOOOOO!!! I JUST SAW A PICTURE DAN!! WHAT THE HELL MAN😳!!! LOL thanks and NO thanks! Tour a much better Man brother
What is your mineral oil?brand?
Tektro:) Thanks man
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS how much?
I think we paid like $8 or $9 dollars.
I bled my tekto brakes you couldn't use the shimano funnel at all. I had to use a syringe and an overfill tube. I did screw up and forget the bleed block holy crap what a mess.
Man I feel you!! It gets messy FAST😂😂😂
If u have problems with the rear brake, take the rear tire off and squeeze the brake without the bleed blocks and start filling!, If u put too much in it'll ooze out before u completely tighten the bleed screw back in the master. Also, zip tie the lenders in over night, put the bike in the stands and angle the bike nose up towards the levers. Tap the lines and let it sit overnight, it'll be spongy in the morning and just add more oil and you should be good! Just a few hacks I've learned as I have magura and those can be notoriously tricky to dial in perfect but good luck to ya and be safe out there! 👍🙋
Thank you Mikey, very useful info man. It took a min and was getting worries, I actually left the strap on there over night lol, but thank you for the great info!!
The only problem I am finding with these brakes is that it is sometimes very difficult to switch out the rear hose on the lever because the zoom factory crushes the olive down so tight it makes it almost impossible to get the hose out. Secondly, you must be very careful not to strip the retaining screw when replacing it or your reservoir will leak. I found this out the hard way, I now have to re-order a left brake lever, and of course, it will come with a front brake line that will have to be replaced for the rear. Seems this process never ends...
Ha ha ha! Very true man, never ending and very damn hard to get the hose out!!! Lol had dad holding one end with channel locks! Good thing I ordered a seperate hose kit.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Ya man, it's a bummer. I'm almost tempted to put my cable brakes back on. Next time I order Hydraulic brakes I think I will spring for Shimano, they are more expensive but most likely very much better built and you can work on them much easier.
100% right man, the shimano mt200's for the price arent bad at all!
I can feel the love in that opening..
In the UK they have brake handle's reversed. Oh don't worry I don't think you're a professional.. hahaha
Stay frosty brother
Well about damn time I get your approvel!! Lol so glad you got my back brother, much love and see you on CHRISTMAS!! MALUS TIME😉👍👍👍 PEACE THUNDERLUNGS
I'm in the UK too and I have noticed that our American friends put the leavers on the oppisit sides to us .After rideing motorcycles for over 50 years I think I would be over the handlebars before I got to the first turn if I got on one of there bikes lol
@ john's shed, well if we rode together you would fit right in!! I am a professional at OTB crashes!! LOL
The UK and EU position the brake lever correctly and matches how motorcycles are setup. Have no idea why the US reverses the brakes.
Wow 5l that’s amazing 2 months ago when I started watching you had 3 k
It has not been easy that's for sure. The #wolfticknation motivates us to keep grinding. Thanks man, and Happy Holidays🎅
It’s to stop the flow. That just like the one I got just labeled different.
For sure man, same price?
Hi sir
Yeah like zoom hydraulic
Watching from Philippines 👍🇵🇭
Nice video and a lot of info there, brother you should open your own bike shop repair 💪, again awesome video
Thanks Mag! Now a future endeavor maybe??But what about a bike PARK!!! Now that would be awesome someday:):):)m Thanks man and sent your tool out TODAY!!!! Merry Christmas Magnum
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS thanks so much , merry Christmas for u and your dad as well, you guys are awesome, many blessings 🙏 for both of you and your family as well
Much Love MAGNUM:)
That intro though way to keep it real. In all honesty though I'd much rather see two real people arguing than two fake people just trying to put on a good show for people I loved it also reminds me of me and my dad
Well Dakota I'm glad you can appreciate it then man, keeping it real is the best! Thanks brother
Haha I love that intro😂 the bleed kit was better than I expected I might get it for my self! Have a great Christmas and new year!
Thanks Matteo, the bleed kit was legit man! Surprised as well.. anyways man see you for Christmas!! Have Good one budd
Nice kit and far cheaper than the Park Tool kit. I have been using drug store mineral oil. Berm Peak did an episode about it. Dirt cheap and pretty much the same stuff.
Hmmm? That sounds interesting I've seen baby oil bit drug store mineral oil? I guess you are right lol. Thanks brother and we will see you Christmas!!
Lol Shimano mineral oil and drug store stuff does not take the same temps. If you’re casually riding I’m sure it works just fine, but if your doing heavy riding with lots of downhill braking you’ll smoke drug store oil.
I just can’t get brake to have pressure
Try unscrewing reach adjustment screw all the way out, then push the piston in a few times with a flathead, re attach the lever and give it a squeeze. Good Luck
You can find shimano hydros from 50-75$ and be set, instead of getting the breaks swap the lines then get a bleed kit and bleed them ya know
Oh you may be interested we have done a mt200 vid and a mt420 vid as well. Recently installed a pair on the Malus and about to be on the Al Comp so ya Thanks👍👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yep I seen those that’s how I ended up finding the ones I have now haha that oil slick chain you guys did is pimp
@@franbelta1533 hell yeah man it really sets the mood of the ride!! Thanks man and been looking at some pretty cheap Tektro hydraulic!!👍👍😛
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS tektro comes stock on marlin 5s so they got to be somewhat good
Yeah you would think:)
Man, that looks like the same break bleed kit I have, I've had it for like 3 months, haven't opened the box, lol
Well now you know!!🤣 jaja
The pre intro 😂😂 .
Parallel to the floor lol!
Level might work also 😜 .
Nice job Bro .
#wolfticknation
Dont get me started Andy! 😂 thanks brother for wathing
5:00 to get to when they actually start working on the brakes
Actually it's more like 6:30 when we start working on the brakes😂. People will probably be best suited using the time stamp in the description though because at 2:20 we show the kit that most people will need to bleed them🧑🔧. Do people look in the comments more than the description to find time stamps🤔? We have had a few people do what you did, and I'm not sure if it is a genuine attempt at being helpful 😀or a passive aggressive statement😈. Can you please clarify for us so we know if we should just put time stamps in the comments in the future. Thanks🥰👍
Early for me today, I'm on a roll! 😂
That intro was getting a bit lairy!😂😂 Funny to watch though and good to see you can both laugh about it!
How was that faceful of mineral oil? I bet you didn't expect that when you woke up that morning 😂😂
Very comprehensive looking kit, should be able to bleed anything with that. Must do mine one day...
Great video as always, take care 😎🍻
Hey Dan, mineral oil wasn't too bad!! Lol and man you were extremely early👍 surprised ha ha we tend to either laugh during or after stuff like that when we edit later on in the night. Very cool! Thanks Dan
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I blame the time difference from here to you guys for being occasionally late 😂😂
HA HA Damn UK!!! See you Christmas morning for the shoutout/mailtime/Al Comp VIDEO brother!! You will enjoy:) Thanks Dan and see ya man!Do they do CHRISTMAS in the UK???
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yeh bro I'm looking forward to it.
Christmas is a huge thing over here, but the area I'm in is in lock down due to covid, so no visiting family or anything like that. It'll be a quiet one this year, but you've got make the best of it 😁🍻
Hope you guys have a great Christmas, happy holidays! 🍻
Just like here thats a bummer man:( We will make the best thats for sure, got some cool gifts man, have a great one Dan and be safe brother! Merry Christmas
5k LETSS GOOOOOOOO!!
LETS GOOO!!!!💪💪💪💪💪🎅
man, yall need a damn TV show! ..........🤭🤣😂funny as hell!👍🏾
Taff Tuesday!
You know it👍🚵♂️
Cool now I know how to bleed my brakes! Thanks guys. Well I know of some Cat on YT, who uses baby mineral oil to bleed his brakes with 🤷♂️. Merry Christmas 🎄& best wishes to you folks for the New Year.
Very cool Andrew, glad you learned something ha ha! Dude I seen that baby oil!!
You two should create separate channel, where you talk about random stuff, and just go at it. Maybe even do a segment like from Family Guy, what grinds my gear. It would be hilarious. And for the next batch of stickers, you really should add: We are not professionals on it. It starting to be your tag line :D that kit is amazing for that price. especially for those who have more than one bike, with different types of brakes and oils. I was surprised how much you get in one package.
LOL Man we wouldent get any VIEWS!!! HA HA:) Thanks for that!! Like the grind my gears SEGMENT idea! Very good deal we thought as well man, appreciate you watching:) Oh and for sure on the NOT PROFESSIONALS!! Gonna steal that one too!
Trail? We wheeling now
I'm thinking about wrestling and Jiu Jitsu watching this video😂 ouss.✌️
10:56 for high tier face squirting action
i lost my metal o ring😔
what a bummer, will it still hold pressure?? Maybe a car parts store??
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS do u know wats size of the washer?
Sure dont brother:( A guy named DOM is supposed to let me know though??
My man's ears said 🍡
🤣🤣🤣🤣please explain!! Shishkaba?? Like cauliflower on there!! Hilaruous
That's what she said.
😂😂😂🤣🤣😳
I just installed the Zoom Xtech Hydraulic brakes on my MTB. They work EXCELLENT! No hassle, No bleeding, and they look AWSOME. Red calipers against the stainless rotors on a black frame, looks totally SICK! I also want to make another point on why hybrid (hydraulic/mechanical) brakes are a better choice, for my situation anyway. I have a 2019 Schwinn Taff that I rebuilt from the wheels up. I ordered two new rims from Schwinn at $22.00 a piece and new Shimano quick release hubs, new tires and tubes and rebuilt some nice wheels with stainless spokes. I put on an entire new cockpit, red handlebars, a new stem and locking hand grips. When I was thinking about changing out the mechanical disk brakes for hydraulic I naturally had to replace the integrated Shimano shifters/lever cluster that came stock on the bike. So, I bought a new 3x8 Shimano shifter set to put on the bars with the new hydraulic levers. Then I found out about the hybrid Zoom Xtech hydraulic brakes that use existing cable pull levers. I ended up putting my integrated Shimano shifter/lever cluster back on the bars and just running the brake cable to the Zoom Xtech hydraulic calipers. Instead of changing out the entire cockpit for a traditional hydraulic brake system I could use my existing Shimano shift/lever cluster with the new Zoom Xtech hydraulic brakes. The stopping force is UNBELIEVABLE! I'm so glad I decided to switch everything back to original so I could hook up the Xtech hydraulic brakes. I like the HUMPTY DUMPTY build you and wolf (Dad) did on the Taff. I would like to send you a picture of all the work I have done on my Taff. Believe it or not, I paid $189.00 for my Taff brand new at Walmart. To date my total expenses on the entire rebuild is $1,300.00. Let me know how I can shoot you a pic. Thanks buddy!
Man that sounds awesome!! So glad they worked for ya:) We will be ordering some soon im sure if dad had not drunken ebayed them already ha ha. You can email us and please add who you are and a few upgrades. Thanks man
The into is amazing you should have it on every video. Really liked the video I’m actually going to get a upgrade list together for my boundary. It was going to be my dirt jumper but seeing Walmart jack up the price on the Axum by 200 bucks I guess no dirt jumper this year. 🤬🤬🤬 not happy with Walmart at all.
Man we wanted that damn axum too and saw that price jump as well!!! No dropper😳
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I know it sucks I really want it to be my trail bike. My wife said tonight just buy it 😂 but the extra 200 bucks just irritates me because your get nothing for the extra cash... they could put hydraulic disc brakes on it then maybe I would get over it.
If you break down the Axum especially now with the higher price, it's not a great deal. You are 100% correct on them needing to add some hydraulic brakes or something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't it come with a dang freewheel as well? Thanks man
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOSAxum has cassette and when it was 399.00 i felt it was a great deal but with the extra 200 bucks for nothing it’s a hard to get it
@@joshschow5848 Okay that's why we wanted the Axum at $399. I couldn't remember what it was that had us trying to order the Axum more than once, that was it. Well now it's down to the Schwinn trio of Taff $298, Boundary $248, and Aluminum Comp $224 plus a $70 dollar rear wheel with quick release and freehub. Thanks for the info, and hopefully you enjoy this Al Comp build that we are about to do.
Hey Jeremiah, just wanted to let you know before ordering a new brake set from ZOOM. I just found a hydraulic hybrid by ZOOM, it's called "XTECH". It's a Mechanical/Hydraulic brake. It is actuated through mechanical brake levers that attach to a hydraulic caliper. This way you do not need brake hoses and don't have to hassle with pulling crushed olives out of hydraulic levers and changing them around. You just simply set up the levers on the handlebars like regular mechanical brakes, run the cable and housing to the caliper and attach it like a regular mechanical brake. Only difference is the pistons inside the caliper are actuated by hydraulic fluid inside the caliper, so no messy bleeding is required. I'm gonna order me a set. You can find them for $46.97 for front and rear on ebay. Just thought you might want to do a video on how to set these brakes up. I think they are going to be a big seller because there is practically none to very little hassle setting them up. Thanks for listening bro. Go check them out...
Hey David thanks for the heads up man, I have heard of them but though they were more expensive but man we will give you credit on that if we partake!! LOL Thanks man very cool
Merry happy Christmashanukahkwanzaa everyone
Wow🎅
Gravity bleeding ftw
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Zoom is so cheap that I can afford it but the problem is I don't know how to bleed hydraulic brakes
Man they are cheap but bleeding would be about an every year thing most like if you ride the hell out of it.... Have you thought about the hydraulic cable actuated brakes??
i know its late but buy some cheap shimano brakes like mt200 or m395s, one way bleeding is simple as it comes.