Ten Weird and Obscure Christian Branches and Denominations
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- This is a video of ten weird and obscure Christian Branches and Denominations.
Adamites: 0:50
Ebionites: 1:25
Collyridianism: 2:57
Servetism: 3:34
Soccinianism: 5:50
Southcottianism: 7:14
Liberal Catholic Church: 9:34
Christian Community: 10:18
House of Aaron: 11:23
Sedevacantism: 12:08
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The same heresies pop up again and again under different names.
This is very true. I can't remember where or who I heard this from or for what context this saying was from for sure but the saying goes I think something like "Same demons different times".
@@Lightn1ng82 Yeah, all the non-trinitarian stuff are just reworkings of various anti-Nicea/Chalcedon heresies. Sedevacantism is just reworked Donatism... Adamites and Cathars and such were neo-Gnostics ... etc.
@@markcharron This is why knowing church history is very important not as important as Scripture. But important because since satan tries the same trick over and over if we learn how these tricks were shot down the last time then we can do it again maybe even learn from our fore fathers mistakes and do it faster.
Perhaps this channel should considering doing a video on the archetypal, reoccurring heresies?
Right Jeremiah 10:1-5 it's gone by many names.
Fun fact: I was originally baptized in one of these - the Christian Community. Once I realized it was heretical, I got baptized for real in the Presbyterian church
Hey Redeemed Zoomer. I love your videos.
I myself was baptized Catholic and went to a Catholic Church as a small child. When I was an older child I went to a Presbyterian Church (My Dad is Catholic and my Mom is Protestant). When I was a teenager I started going to a Catholic Church again and finally got confirmed two years later when I was fifteen.
I’m a Methodist. I wish I was old enough to switch churches. I hate the liberalism of it.
I love that the Christian Community is being mentioned it is largest esoteric Christian church in the world. It be great to make more videos on it. Both @redeemedzoomer6053 and @coolvideos1017 are very talented.
I too was a member of the Christian Community. You and @coolvideo1017 are making great content. It be great if you created longer videos on that particular esoteric and heterodox church (The Christian Community). It is the largest esoteric church in the world.
I feel like the baptism was getting a lobotomy in a holy pond or something
Two obscure denominations that I know: Palmarian church and the Starovery (old believers).
Uhh! The palmarians, I find them the weirdest, they seem to guise as traditional Catholics but have a lot of issues, social, ethical and theologicals, especially their basilica, I find it weirdly creepy. Never heard of Starovery though.
I learnt about the old believers in my Russian history course it was very interesting they are orthodox Christians who from my knowledge denied the reforms to the liturgy of the patriarch of Moscow Nikon in the 1600’s and continued in their old ways it made me think about tge ortho bros all ways talking about how they have never changed at all
@@Idishrkdmd it was more of a political move though. Alexei (the Tsar at the moment) viewed himself as a spiritual successor of Byzantine and THE christian sovereign, who will free Greek christians from Ottoman hegemony, but Athonite monks anathematized Russian books. He just wanted to be the leader of the whole orthodox christianity and viewed Greeks as a heirs of Byzantine culture. Even though Greeks themselves had already changed some parts of Byzantine customs.
Collyridianism is how Mohammed understood the trinity.
That would make sense because it started in Arabia
Well you have to remember worship in Islam has a wide context. Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christian’s today are considered to worship Mary and other saints as well through their veneration and prayers to Mary, all of this is haram in Islam. So it’s not necessarily true that he was only talking about this specific sect
@@clintonbaird5465The Catholics and the Orthodox do not worship Mary. They hold her in a very high regard, due to her piety and her role as the mother of Jesus, but they do not consider her to be God at all, and do not worship her.
@@clintonbaird5465 Islam's view on idolatry developed over time to hold this view, but the historical context of Muhammad's time points towards him learning Christianity from these heresies and probably Nestorianism and reaching these wrong conclusions about what the whole christian world believes
@@clintonbaird5465 Muhammed didn't encounter any Catholics or Eastern Orthodox, though. There were no Chalcedonians in the Hejaz area, the nearest Chalcedonians were the Ghassanids in Northern Arabia. Muhammed would have mostly had contacts with Nestorians & with a few Miaphysites, either through Abyssinian servants or the Christians from Najran. This is to say that Nestorians have historically not put as much emphasis on the veneration of Mary, their Marian hymns were far less elaborate, partly due to their Christology. Nestorians historically also didn't have elaborate iconography, although they did depict Mary, but icon veneration is mostly absent, even to this day. Now, when it comes to the Miaphysites, yes, they did practice Marian devotion similar to Eastern Orthodox, but still not near the level of Marian veneration you see among modern Eastern Orthodox, not to speak of post-medieval Catholics. So, while Muhammed may have seen the Marian veneration practiced by the Nestorians & Miaphysites as bordering idolatry, it may very well just be a misunderstanding or false interpretation of these practices from Muhammed's side.
Darby and Scofield actually were the originators of dispensationalism. It was popularized by R.A. Torrey.
No. You can find similar beliefs by some Church fathers. Lee Brainard has made this crystal clear if you want to look into it.
Keep making these dude! There are plently more out there.
Very interesting topic indeed!
I will keep making more heresy
Christian Israelites exist in Australia too. I went to school with some. They were kind people doing their best to follow what they thought was right. Last I knew, only the family's eldest son remained with them.
Mohammed thought Christians were Collyridianists I guess
Or, "Nine Weird and Obscure Heretical Cults and Also Sedevacantism"
@gog732 Well exactly
If someone studies about traditional Catholicism, eventually will become sedevacantist
A few Quakers also preached naked to begin with, though they don't do that anymore.
I’m a Quaker and I’ve never heard about this before would you mind showing me the source that you got this off of
To this day, there’s a pacifist sect of Russian origin that preaches naked, at least during their nude protest-marches marches naked … the Doukhobors, in Alaska of all places! (They were exiled to Alaska from Siberia, whence they were exiled from the rest of Russia about 300 or 400 years. For obvious reasons, they do this mostly in the summer.)
@@KateGladstone To my knowledge, there aren't any Doukhobors living in Alaska, most of them live in British Columbia. And they also don't do nude protests anymore, this was only done by a radical Doukhobor sect called the "Freedomites" until the late 20th century.
Lol 😂
The Southcottian movement was the most unhinged.
Literally wouldn't had existed if she'd met with one somewhat proficient medical professional who would be like "your not pregnant lol"
Came here after the Spongebob video😂
Same
same wtf
A lot of these are completely different religions that call themselves Christian.
I'd love to see a deeper dive into the views of the Christian Community, the Liberal Catholic Church, and other esoteric denominations.
Is there any heretic groups that branched off from Orthodoxy, it always seems to be from Judaism, Protestantism and Catholicism (Mormonism too but that goes without saying) or even early Christianity groups..
This is why I'm Orthodox too many heresy
You know that Orthodox isn't actually Orthodox right? What is considered Orthodox today was based on doctrines & traditions that were created & recreated over time.
@@AndrewRusherLDSThe doctrines weren’t created to make something new, rather to affirm what was already believed and true, such as the ecumenical councils.
Pray for us brother!
@@maximosprimus The doctrine of the Trinity was created, we know this by the fact that every time the Apostles refer to God they NEVER use multi-personal language.
The problem with ecumenical councils is that what is "true" is whatever view has more people affirming that given view. If you have a group of 10 people & 6 of them affirm the Trinity while the rest affirm the Biblical Unitarian view, the Trinity will be deemed "true" because it has more people affirming it.
@@AndrewRusherLDS John 10:30 "i and the father are one" the Bible also says the holy spirit comes from both the father and the son
oh and read the first sentence of the book of st John
The picture of the guy in The Christian Community looks like Daniel Day Lewis.
Why is everyone copying this video format now
It's annoying but it clearly shows in the thumbnail what will be in it, thus attracting attention. Also, videos aiming to state facts (rather than opinions) appear to be promoted by the algorithm.
Polish brethren became Transylvanian unitarians
What about Gnosticism?
Gnosticism is at very best, not a church. At worst, and usually, it's not even Christian.
Gnosticism is not an organized church but a belief in hidden knowledge , esoteric teachings etc. There are many Gnostic writings and they are extremely complicated and rarely agree with each other.
@@D.N.. Yes I agree, but this video was about christianity
Shoutout to the House Of Aaron. I have friends with them!
Have you guys ever read the Bible? The Messiah didn't raise Sunday, Mary shows up and the tomb is empty and the angel says she came the wrong day. The Messiah came to teach everything desired at Horeb. Which is the 10 commandments. Deut5:2-21 deut18:15-19
The devil fooled the whole world narrow gate that few find. Love is rebuke of sin. Leviticus19:15-18
I would Like to mention the fact that the Koran speaks of colllyridianism unintentionally.
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, 'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. [Qur'an 5:116]
This would make sense if Muhammad heard of the trinity from this Christian heresy that took please in Arabia. Good video btw.
Bro sounds like 🤓
Collyridianism? ironically (I get accused of worshipping Mary every day), I thought we Catholics stamped that out
Nice ending lol
When I walk into a church naked everybody starts acting weird. 😢
You left out the muggletonians, and abdectarians!
Ebionites believed they could become the Christ (Holy Spirit coming upon him), they were vegetarian, and said James was their leader
And they were wrong
@@nathanbarth6393 amen brotha
Exactly, like who do you think gave Moses the laws at Sinai?
(Spoiler alert it was Jesus)
@@ECLECTRIC_EDITS God
@@nathanbarth6393 Jesus is God
Darby and some other guy created it as it never existed previously
Weird as compared to what?
Fyi, the ebionites are seen by some as the religion practiced by the followers of Jesus, as opposed to the followers of the Apostle Paul.
It's a very false view as you hear statements like Jesus's mother and disciples were ebionites. Like yeah sure Mary and the disciples of Jesus were very eager to tell people that their Christ had a very obscure birth. That Mary had Jesus out of wedlock.
I got my own heresy for ya
Cmonnnn whats in the box??-se7en
The c in scion is silent.
So it's pronounced like Zion just with and S?
@@shanquelmondecesions4525 Yes, exactly
@Theophily Gotcha thanks for the clarification 👍
Ortodoxy is the true church
All 3 denominations hypothetically came first but then they split from each other
Which of the hundred “true” orthodox churches is the real one?
@@petergriffintv8315 What are you referring to? There is one Orthodox Church
@@petergriffintv8315 “genuine” and “true” Orthodox Churches are considered non-canonical and are not recognized by mainstream Orthodox Churches. The Orthodox do not claim them to be a part of their communion and do not even say whether or not their Orders are even valid
One very popular proponent of adoptionism is John MacArthur
That's a lie! John MacArthur teaches that Jesus has always been God. I don't agree with everything MacArthur teaches, he can be over-hyped, but you are just straight up slandering the man as a heretic. If he teaches adoptionism, I want a video and a time-stamp.
Erm, what?
-Adamites were from the 1500s.
-Collyridians sound like Mormons.
Ebionites and Collyridians sound literally just like proto islam
Well, collyridianism is not proto islam. If anything, it's a backbone for Islam's view of Christianity and its shirk. But yeah, there are hints of ebionites in Islam. That Jesus is just man. There's also hints of some gnostic groups that stated Jesus didn’t die. Albeit because they believe Jesus wasn't man and was spirit and so can not die.
God the father, Mother, and Son makes more sense. representing divine feminine. I believe God is One and infinite. Total Love, Total Good
This only fashions God after the likeness of men. That for there to be a son, there must be a mother.
Guys the mother is the Holy Spirit ,in the hebrew bible the Holy Spirit is a feminine name (Ruach Hakodesh)
@@gesudinazaret9259 No. In Spanish the word for School is feminine so does that mean school is only for Girls? The Bible uses Male Pronouns for the Holy Spirit
i'm a socinian!
Why?
Not a brag 🙏
@cristianbravo2072 bro’s position is literally untenable. 💀
Read Zechariah 2:8-11. The pre incarnate Christ is speaking. The Lord will dwell among his people, having been sent by the Lord of hosts.
Zechariah 2:8-11 ESV
[8] For thus said the Lord of hosts, after his glory sent me to the nations who plundered you, for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye: [9] “Behold, I will shake my hand over them, and they shall become plunder for those who served them. Then you will know that the Lord of hosts has sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion, for behold, I come and I will dwell in your midst, declares the Lord. [11] And many nations shall join themselves to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people. And I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me to you.
@@garchomp-if7514 how do you know that “the pre-incarnate Christ is speaking” there? It isn’t obvious to me, and I grew up reading the Old Testament (as you Christian’s call it) cover to cover. If Jesus is in the Old Testament somehow, wouldn’t this have ever been noticed by the people who actually READ (and whose ancestors actually WROTE) the Old Testament?