"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished" Matthew 5'18
Nope. That's a vague set of verses. The actually Greek seems to assume that Jesus is talking about a different law then the old law seen in the testament
Most video creators on TH-cam don’t make their videos over 15 minutes because a lot of people won’t watch long videos. You and I would but most people nowadays have the attention span of a gerbil.
@@cervezaway7049 which part of god would then be dependent upon the other parts? Don’t you see the inconsistency and irrationality? God in nature cannot be divided, because which parts are then dependent upon the other parts? That way of thinking makes god dependent upon some other part of himself. One of the definitions of God himself is independence. It is in Gods nature to be free from anything and everything in existence. Also God is the necessary being and is unique and cannot be anything like his creation. It goes against the nature of God to be anything like His creation. In addition the gentleman in the video gave you proof that your belief that you hold that Jesus (peace be upon him) was God himself, and the literal son of God is blasphemy according to the ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS. According to the literal followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) who saw him, ate with, lived with him and learned directly from him Paul was seen as a blasphemer and apostate. Let that last paragraph sink in. This is not my or your opinion. This is the opinion of the TRUE Christians who were the TRUE followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) who saw him, followed him and learned directly from him. Paul on the other side went against if not all overwhelmingly majority of Jesus (peace be upon him) teaching like calling him the one true God, and the literal son of God.. Paul also NEVER met Jesus (peace be upon him). Let that also sink in. Paul was seen as THE enemy by the true followers of Jesus (peace be upon him), and as an apostate. I hope you see the inconsistency and irrationality of following Paul’s teachings which are AGAINST Jesus’s (peace be upon him) teaching. If you truly love Jesus you follow his teachings and NOT Paul’s teachings, and you follow exactly what the apostles and James did. NOT Paul the apostate and blasphemer. I don’t understand how you can keep the same opinion as Paul when he was seen as an apostate and THE enemy by the apostles and the original followers of Jesus (peace be upon him), like for example his brother James who was the Head leader of council of Jerusalem.. If you have watched this whole video and understood it, and yet still keep the same opinions as the apostate Paul who most Christians today believe in and follow, then you simply are proving yourself that you base your opinions on emotions and not rationality and evidences. This means any argument you will put forward will be irrational and inconsistent of truth because you yourself deny the proof and evidences that the early ORIGINAL TRUE CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF JESUS (peace be upon him) DENIED Paul and called him THE ENEMY of their FAITH. Read all of this again carefully and let it sink in. I will not respond any further because you have proved that you base your opinions on emotions rather than evidences and rationality and you will continue to do so. Have a nice day.
There is nothing holy at all about Islam: 👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13). 👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27). 👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17). 👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5). 👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11). 👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16). 👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1). 👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6). 👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17). 👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33). 👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7). 👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5). This describes Islam: 👇 ¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17) "There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
@@iw21012 Is this your response to the EARLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS by barking Mohammed this Mohammed that. YOU ARE OFF POINT.And Mohammed SAAAWS is GREATEST PERSON WHO EVER WALKED ON EARTH!!!Google that if you like.
After reading the whole Bible for 45 years, I can say that the Apostle Paul and James were not really teaching different things. Paul was a staunch believer of the law but was drastically changed when he saw a vision of light and was confronted by the risen Christ on his way to Damascus to persecute Christians. Paul teaches that we are not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 2:16). James’s letter had a different focus than Paul’s. His letter focuses on virtues as a consequence of true faith (James 2:18-20). Didn’t James say that whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it? (James 210). We all know that all have sinned (Romans 3:23). That’s not Paul’s teaching but a truth that we can easily confirm by examining ourselves. As such, if we were to be judged through our works, we will all be subject to judgment. Matthew 5:48 says, “Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect.” Acts 15’s discussion of what should be the rules for the Gentiles in the Jerusalem Council concluded that Gentiles should only abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). The conclusion was based on divine revelation given to Peter in Acts 10 and the testimony of Barnabas and Paul. Peter was more orthodox than Paul but Peter himself wrote that Paul’s teachings were scriptures (2 Peter 3:15-16). The idea that Jesus has divine nature was taught by the apostles. John discussed this more exhaustively because he had the opportunity to ponder on Jesus’s teachings for a longer time and he was blessed to see not only the transfigured Christ but the glorified Christ (Revelation 1). John expressed the eternal nature of Jesus Christ in John 1:1 & 1 John 1:2. Matthew expressed his understanding of Christ’s divinity when he documented the temptation of Christ when Jesus told Satan, “You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.” Satan was tempting Jesus, not the Father (Matthew 4:6), thus, Jesus claimed to be God. In John 8:23-24, Jesus delineated Himself from the rest of humanity by saying, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins if you do not believe that I Am (Greek: Ego Eimi; Hebrew: Ehyeh). That conversation with the Jews ended with the Jews picking up stone to stone Jesus because they understood His claim of deity when He said, “Truly, truly,I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am (Ego Eimi). Ego Eimi is a divine name. It’s God’s revelation of His own nature. Even the writer to the Hebrews declared Jesus’s divinity. In Hebrews 1:3, the writer said that the world was created through the Son. The Son is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of His nature, and He upholds the universe by the word of His power. In verse 1:8, God called the Son, “God.” In Hebrews 1:10-12, God declared that the Son created the universe and that He will never end. If you believe that the Bible is inspired by God then, you should not divide the Bible into teachings of Paul, Peter, James, John, Luke,etc.. You should refer to it only as the word of God. The Bible teaches a Jesus with two natures: fully divine (John 1:1, Philippians 2:6-11; Mark 14:62; Luke 4:8; Hebrews 1:8, 10-12) and fully human (John 1:14; Philippians 2:7-8; 1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus was eternally God as was described by John in John 1:1 using the imperfect tense with continuous aspect. He became flesh in John 1:14 using the aorist tense indicating that sometime in the past , Jesus put on humanity. Jesus came for one main reason: to die for the sins of the world. The penalty for sin is death. Since all have sinned, no one is qualified to be the propitiation for our sins except for Jesus. In His pre-incarnate state, Jesus could not save us. He could not shed His blood as a Spirit God. Without shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). It was decided sometime in eternity that Jesus would suspend His independent use of His divine power and be a man so that He could save us without violating His justice (Philippians 2:5-11; 1 Peter 1:18-20). Jesus issued a promise, “Truly, truly,, I say to you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” Can the word of God be any clearer that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ? Anyone who tries to save himself on his own is doomed because he will not be covered by God’s unmerited favor (Romans 4:2-6; Ephesians 2:4-9). God is just but He is also love. Those two traits were satisfied on the cross. Jesus is coming back. He will either be our judge or our savior. The choice is ours.
Isn’t it surprising that only Paul saw and heard Jesus (PBOH) Paul was clearly delusional because there is no EVIDENCE that it was Jesus (PBOH ) that he saw
Isn’t it surprising that only Paul saw and heard Jesus (PBOH) Paul was clearly delusional because there is no EVIDENCE that it was Jesus (PBOH ) that he saw
@@ahganchi Yet the apostles agreed Paul was an apostle and of the faith, and Paul transformed from a Pharisee persecuting Christians to a Christian under extreme persecution, to his death, himself. You can call it delusion, but its clear that he saw what he saw, and had profound revelation and transformation of his heart through the Holy Spirit, and the apostles agreed he was one of them.
Well said! In addition, St. John of Damascus identified the Ebionites as heretics, since they believed that Christ and the Holy Spirit were created in heaven and that Christ dwelled in Adam as was incarnated as Adam. Clearly, they were not Christian. Paul has also been a dear Saint to all Christians and was in complete agreement with the Apostles and James. As Amorfina said, just read Acts 15.
@@ahganchi if he didn't see the lord Jesus Christ God resurrected king 👑 then he would not have had the power for miracles and to make me Christianity what it is today. We wouldn't be talking about it. Hell we would all be Muslims today. Too bad for you didn't happen. Maybe 🤔 think
As a Christian, I don't think of my faith as 'separate' from the earliest Jewish believers. If anything, whenever I think of the church, this is my first image of what 'church' is, the ecclesia who were in the first instance 'called out' Jewish believers in Yeshua as Messiah. I believe there are many Christians, probably far more than presumed, that identify with the church as written in the New Testament, beginning with the disciples. I don't think this should be any surprise to anyone. At 5:56, Paul in his video, departs from scriptural evidence and asserts his assumption that the earliest believers "didn't believe that Jesus died for their sins" - here Paul is simply departing from the scriptural evidence to assert his own desires, because the scripture tells us the opposite in 1 Corinthians 15:3-7 "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: *that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,* 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles." - Paul having received this from Peter the disciple and James the brother of Jesus. By Paul asserting his own Islamic bias, here, that 'Jesus didn't die for anyone's sins', is simply NOT in the scripture. The opposite is the case, in which the gospels are linked inescapably to Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, which affirm the Suffering Servant who "bore the iniquities of many". There simply isn't the scripture to back up Paul's assertion in the video, which represents in reality a very immature comprehension of the Messiahship of Jesus, which was recognised by the earliest Jewish believers and was eventually why these earliest believers were ejected from the Temple and synagogues, James being martyred, despite his Jewish church leadership in Jerusalem.
The problem is that what you call scriptures developed much later and became canonical, destroying and suppressing everything before it. You should start by examining the historical accuracy of the NT. Read the book "The five gospels" from the Jesus Seminar.
@@disuser-lp3qv1tm8f re: “The problem is that what you call scriptures developed much later and became canonical, destroying and suppressing everything before it.” >> Perhaps you would like to provide some EVIDENCE for your statement? I suggest to you, that your statement is pure supposition. Without any evidence you are on very weak ground, that is totally depending upon your imagination! There is actually far greater evidence that the Quran is actually what you are describing here! The reason for this, is that if we follow the text of the Quran, it leads us all the way back on a trail through centuries of the history of Christian heretical groups, who denied the divinity of Christ and ideas about the trinity. What you have in the Quran, all comes from Christian heresies, that existed in Syria and the Near East, before the 7th century. The Quran is the final edition of Christian lectionaries from these Christian groups, which we understand to be called the Quriyana text (Lectionary). So this represents the real story behind the Quran, not the one you have been told. For a start, the reason your statement is clearly error, is that you claim that our scriptures “destroyed and suppressed everything before it”! But this is obviously untrue! What came before the New Covenant or New Testament, is the ‘Old Testament’ or Tanack and you will find that full Bibles contain both the New Testament and the Old Testament that came before it! Therefore, the scriptures of the New Testament did NOT ‘suppress or destroy, everything before it’! You see when you make clearly erroneous statements that have no foundation to them, they fall apart pretty quickly! The foundation to the New Testament is the Old Testament which is attached to it (before it). re: “You should start by examining the historical accuracy of the NT.” >> You mean you want me to RETURN AGAIN to ‘examine the historical accuracy of the NT’? Why would you want me to go over this again? I am satisfied with the historical validity of the NT. re: “Read the book "The five gospels" from the Jesus Seminar.” >> I’ll read that if you read Christof Luxenborg’s book explaining why the Quran is really an Aramaic text from Christian sources that has been corrupted by the editor of the Quran - ok? The so called “Jesus Seminar”, is an outdated and largely discredited movement in today’s theology, with good reason! Modern theologians consign this movement to the dusty shelves of ‘has beens’ because they used some very poor rational as the basis for their protocols and theories, which were based upon presumptions from sceptics, who do not believe in God or the miraculous. So for you, as a Muslim, for instance, you would not support the rational behind the so called ‘Jesus Seminar’ because a Muslim would regard it as ungodly. The people of the Jesus Seminar, for instance would regard the ‘virgin birth’ you have in the Quran as nonsense and untrue and therefore would discredit the validity of the Quran and its author(s). As you are apparently so interested in the historicity of the NT for some strange reason (I don’t know why that would be of any interest to you, as you are a Muslim), then I recommend you to read “Reinventing Jesus: How Contemporary Skeptics, miss the Real Jesus and Mislead Popular Culture”, by J. Ed. Komoszewski; M. James Sawyer and Daniel B. Wallace, published in 2006, by Kregel Publications. You will see from the above book that the general public is being hoodwinked and mislead on a massive scale, about the New Testament, often led by popular characters like Bart Ehrman, who has spent his life trying to justify his backslidden state, and making good money out of misleading young people etc.
@@peaceinjesus5221 the difference between you and me is that when it comes to the NT I listen to the best academic experts on the subject, while, on the other hand, when it comes to the Qur'an, you listen to unqualified and/or bigoted liars. What is also funny is that you claim that the public is being misled by critical scholars of the NT, while in fact the exact opposite is true, namely that the general public still believes that the Gospels are God's word and have absolutely no idea how they came about. My interest in early Christianity as a Muslim is to confirm, through human knowledge, what divine knowledge in the Qur'an already says about it, which is, that Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of.
@@disuser-lp3qv1tm8f re: “the difference between you and me is that when it comes to the NT I listen to the best academic experts on the subject, while, on the other hand, when it comes to the Qur'an, you listen to unqualified and/or bigoted liars.” >> You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but of course, having an opinion can be as misguided as having no opinion! Expressing one’s opinion is not a guarantee of being correct! You could be very wrong and in this case, your opinion is not only driven by your prejudice, but it is overtly emotionally defensive! Emotional responses like this, of a defensive nature, have the characteristic of blind panic in response to a perceived threat! It is this that you are presenting to me, in reply. You see an intelligent response to my reply to you, would have been to say: “How interesting, ….I must find this book by Christoff Luxnborg, read it and learn what I can from it, even if at the end of it, I don’t agree with his conclusions”,….but you will note that instead, your own response is: “they are unqualified”….”they are liars”,….”they are bigoted”! Can you see how your response is emotionally driven in a knee jerk defensive response, instead of intelligently considering the matter? Luxenborg is none of these things! The scholars involved in the Jesus Seminar, enjoyed fame for a while, but they created their own criteria, which while having some rational behind it, also had the distinct possibility that it lead them to gross errors! The criteria which they used, was based upon a collection of presumptions and these presumptions derived from their personal position of sceptical scholarship, which denied any possibility of divine interventions or the miraculous, including the possibility of divine prophecies. Therefore in the mind of a Jesus Seminar scholar, there is no such a thing as Prophecy foretelling the future - this to a Jesus Seminar scholar is non existent. Therefore, a Jesus Seminar scholar, looking at your Quran, would completely dismiss it as any kind of ‘revelation’ or having any prophetic foretelling. In their mind, the Quran is relegated to being a product of collective authorship, and they would use criteria in studying it, which would deconstruct it, in the same kind of manner as they tried to deconstruct the Bible. re: “What is also funny is that you claim that the public is being misled by critical scholars of the NT, while in fact the exact opposite is true, namely that the general public still believes that the Gospels are God's word and have absolutely no idea how they came about.” >> There is nothing “funny” about this subject. It is a serious matter! I referred you to a book which addressed this subject. I did not write it. It is written by scholars who have made it their life’s work to study the New Testament manuscripts. They are not amateurs! However, I will tell you what is “funny”….its your reluctance and absolute prejudice in considering any other possibilities and perspectives than your own because you are using these accusations to try to prop up your religion of Islam! ….I can see through this, straight away! I’m very satisfied that the New Testament is an authentic collection of writings inspired by God for my spiritual Birth, Growth and benefit, as it is and has been for millions of other people, since 2000 years ago! There is nothing that is going to change now! I would politely suggest, that unless you have read the book I recommended to you, that you cannot possibly have anything but an unbalanced view generated by sceptical critics of the Bible and God. Any intelligent mind, will read all sides of a subject, in order to discover truth…..NOT JUST THE SIDE HE WANTS TO SUPPORT HIS AGENDA! (this is what you are doing!). re: “My interest in early Christianity as a Muslim is to confirm, through human knowledge, what divine knowledge in the Qur'an already says about it, which is, that Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of.” >> Firstly as a Muslim, Christian faith, has absolutely nothing to do with you - it is not your business. You have your own religion and if you think that has any truth in it, you should be sticking to your belief in Allah and Mohammed, not criticising someone else’s faith. Secondly, you claim that the Quran has “divine knowledge”, yet fail to intelligently apply a critical approach to the Quran, to see if that is actually true! Let me put it this way for you: If the Quran was truly “a revelation” from God to an Arabic man, in far off Mecca, who had nothing at all to do with the faith of Christians and Jews or their scriptures/writings, you would NOT read anything at all in it, pertaining to either Jewish or Christian religion. You would instead have a book which spoke only to the Arabic and nomadic context of the people receiving the “revelation”, because that is how God speaks. God never reveals himself by going to great lengths to criticise another religion. He may mention criticisms in passing, but that is all. Yet here in the Quran, we cannot read this text, with any other opinion, that it is the work of a man or men, who have constructed an Anti-Christian polemic and Anti-Jewish polemic! An intelligent mind would also be careful to note that the Quran makes absolutely no mention of criticisms of the religion of Aborigines in Australia, or the religion of North American indigenous natives, or of the religion of Eskimos, nor of the religion of Hinduism or Bhuddism! These religions are NOT addressed in the Quran and receive no criticism, because the author of the Quran did not know about these religions, or the people who lived in these far off places!! The reason for this is that the author or authors, were personally acquainted with Jewish and Christian faiths of the surrounding region, but had little or no knowledge of the above people and their religions of far off regions around the world! Yet the peoples on the other side of the world, were just as significant as those in the Near East! The Quran’s author had no knowledge of them!! It is things like this that expose the Quran as a writing which can only have originated from a man or men who wrote only of their own small world, criticising only what they had knowledge of! Since the above, is so apparently the case, your comment: “Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of”, cannot be taken with any seriousness, when the author of the Quran was so obviously human and not ‘divine’. I’d also add, that I haven’t “corrupted” anything. I am a grateful recipient of God’s grace to me, in which He has mercifully opened the Eternal door of His redemption and salvation. In this, I have received great Joy, wonderful Peace and a love which only comes from the Saviour, Jesus! You should humble yourself at the feet of Jesus and listen to the gospel, which he is the inspirer of and receive the Grace that comes only from Him.
Jesus did not come to destroy Jewish law. He came to give us a better alternative. If you think you can follow the law than you can do so, but you will fail. As he said, " nonoe is without sin" It's much easier to follow Jesus.
@@cervezaway7049 I see Alhamdulillah, I will add him to the list of scholars I follow that are living in the West, the like of Hamza Yusuf, Al-hakim Murad, Shabir Ally. Unfortunately, I don't know his name. What is his name?
A closer look at Islam: 👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13). 👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27). 👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17). 👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5). 👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11). 👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16). 👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1). 👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6). 👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17). 👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33). 👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7). 👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5). This describes Islam: 👇 ¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17) "There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
Hey. Guess what? The Christians know there were dozens, if not hundreds, of early sects that didn’t line up with the Christianity that won out in the end.
Another great scholarly work imparted with ease and sincerity. I'm sure we'll soon read you book for which you will also be interviewed in one of your videos. You certainly have all the credentials and more for writing. Keep up God's good work, you will be more than blessed. Thank you Paul.
No mention of the Jerusalem Council which is also recorded in the book of Acts. The disagreements between Peter and Paul are recorded in scripture. The influx of Gentiles into the church started happening prior to the completion of the New Testament and the Apostles agreed that the gentiles were not required to follow the law, especially regarding circumcision.
Pretty much, seeing as Paul viewed circumcision being required for Gentiles as binding them to keep the whole law, which he expressly states no flesh can be justified by. Jesus most certainly fulfilled the law. He is the substance to the shadow. Now we, uphold the law when we proclaim the good news and love our neighbor in His name.
It's not surprising that the heretical sect had some beliefs similar to the early church, as Jesus said in John 16;12-15 "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come." So the very early church was still learning the full truth about many things, and apostles such as Saul, James, Peter etc wrote teachings to bring clarity and knowledge of the truth. Those who rejected these teachings of the Apostles were bound to remain in heresy.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
Ironic that you're name is Paul, while referencing how "Paul" had nothing to do with original Christianity. However what seems strange is that apparently Ebionites were vegetarians and hated animal sacrifices, also in their gospel. How then could the temple be central to them if they hated the sacrificial system and the eating of meat?
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
Foundational principles are based on the Bible in its entirety. Cherry picking passages to make a point is not the hallmark of a Scholar. Wake up from such ignorance and be consistent.
This is why it’s so important that Christians read the scriptures, and not be led astray. In the Gospels, Jesus claims to be God, not just some virtuous man. The very reason he was hung on the cross. Also, it’s no secret that there was strife between Paul and Peter, it’s actually documented in the book of Acts.
@@Saltyjman That is a mistranslation of Jesus' words, and "I am" is not a name, it's a simple statement. If I tell you that I am hungry, I am not invoking some claim to divinity, nor if you talk about this Michael on TH-cam, and I say in koine Greek "ego eimi" which means I am/I am him/that is me, I am still not claiming to be God, I am claiming to be that Michael from TH-cam, and even though Michael means "who is like God" I am not claiming to be he who is like God either. "Before Abraham came to be" is a more accurate translation, now when did Abraham come to be? This requires understanding of the scriptures, Abraham came to be when Abram made a covenant with God and became Abraham. Jesus was saying that even before the Abrahamic covenant, he was who he is, which is an allusion to the fact that the priesthood of Jesus is greater than that of the Levites, because Jesus is high priest according to the order of Melchizedek. If I said that even before I was conceived, I was who I am, that doesn't mean I actually pre-existed, it simply means that God planned my life long before I came into the world, and I was always meant to be who I am now. God isn't "the great I am," no one is, because that's not something anyone can be. God is the one who is, that's what he said to Moses, aka he is the one true God, as opposed to all the other gods, he is the one who actually exists. God then announced his name to be whatever the original pronunciation of the tetragrammaton was. Jesus is not called directly by that name, but rather by a derivative of that name, which is the same name that was given to the son of Nun, Jesus or Joshua, however you prefer to say it, Jesus Christ or Joshua the Messiah.
Blogging theology: I listened to your commentary on this matter. I can understand how the Jews continued with their temple practices and their religion even after receiving Jesus as their Messiah. We have to understand how God used Jesus’s murder in a surprising way for the Jews such that they had no idea of this New covenant, and a transition which Paul brought after his revelation, started what christianity is all about. Contrary to what many believed then and now, Paul did not abolish the Law but replaced it with a New way to receive true acceptance and righteousness by God apart from doing what the Law requires. Those who put Paul against the Law do not understand christianity. Just as Jesus said “ I did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it”, Paul actually implemented Jesus’s statement. Faith in the work of Jesus on the cross , and believe in his resurrection is what God requires us to do to become part of the New covenant in Jesus’s blood. Jesus promised the Spirit in John 7:38, John explains the coming of the Spirit as being the source of life and the necessity for Jesus to die on the cross and be resurrected for this to happen. The righteousness as Paul states in Galatians and Romans, does not come from the Law because the only way to attain that righteousness is by the Spirit of God and it takes faith according to the New Covenant to receive the Spirit. Love is the consequence of that New Covenant, and this Love can only come from God, and as the Scripture say, Love fulfills the whole Law. Just as God in the Old Testament promised Israel to give them a new heart, faith is the vehicle to receive that new heart because as Paul says, no one is justified by the works of the Law because by the Law we receive the knowledge of sin, only faith can justify us before God, or make us righteous before God.
Excellent, and perfectly said. JESUS is the way the truth and the life and no one can come to the father but by Him. If this is not so then he is a lying prophet and all of humanity is dead in their sin. But praise Almighty God that Jesus who now sits at the right of God is the perfect sacrificial lamb. This is the good news, and Gift out of pure love to human kind and unlike the religions of the world who would love to hate and kill you for beleiving the truth God gives you a choice to choose His Gift or reject it. In that way He allows us to choose for yourself between everlasting life in Jesus Christ or eternal separation but advises to choose life. The flesh prefers dead religion like Islam, catholicism, churchianity etc. These are simply blind mans attempt to save himself which is like unto a blind man trying to give himself sight in order to pick his way through a dense forest. They are all darkness arrogently posing as light. The whole point of the law is to show us how impossibly lost and hopless our situation is. Only God can save us byJesus Christ and through the mighty power of His holy spirit working in us and enabling us, empowering us to change from the inside outwards so that we too, like Jesus can walk in the newness of life. This is the botom line and arguing in your head about whether paul was right or james was right and going to scholarship to push your particular false religion perspective is absolutely futile. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one can/ is able to come to the Father but by JESUS. The popes and mohommad who murdered millions of people in order to force them to follow false religion will have to bow before Jesus and repent. They and every living thing and entity in heaven on earth and below earth will have to acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Its as simple and complicated as that.
Paul had a clear vision of Christianity however, Some of the Jewish Christians doubted matt 28:17. James, a leader was trying to balance Paul extremity(radical change) and pharisee party as Paul describe them These party believe in the mixture of Jesus and law of the temple. Old habit hardly die! Later some these pharisee doubts became heretical view
@@marioserafin3177 That's the truth. That's why Christ utterly destroyed the Temple and sacrificial priesthood and the ceremonial laws all in one moment of time in 70 ad. All foretold by the prophets and God,s law of blessing and cursing.
@@goodman4093 Paul along with Jesus were very much misunderstood from the beginning. The ministry of the twelve started at Pentecost as they received power from above. They preached Jesus to be the Messiah and for the Jews and the rest of the Israelites to believe in him. We do not know if the apostles understood Paul, we do not have any solid data to know what the twelve actually believed concerning the New Covenant which superseded the Old. No one could have thought that they actually killed their own Messiah, and that God used that murder to free them from the Old Law. Paul understood this change.
It is hardly conceivable that the intimate followers, disciples of Jesus should have been unaware of a new covenant and that a man who never had encountered Jesus ans who never had been interested in his life and in his sayings sbould have hade the "true way"! Paul did everything to abolish the law and was in constant struggle with the "circumcised"
This idea that Judaism and Christianity were almost the same up until the 70's would require that we forget about the work, teaching and legacy of St. Paul, who was already martyred by AD 65. The evidence in support of these theories is almost non-existent.
I’ve thought for a while that what we know as Christianity is actually a religion created by Paul. Jesus was pretty clearly focused on behavior, and Paul was worried about building a cohesive following.
2:30 Well Jesus expressly says he has not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Not sure what your surprise is about, it's right there in the Gospels.
I am Hebrew and the root word fulfill in the way yeshu spoke in Aramaic meaning to add or to make the law more.. and we find the very next scriptures are doing just that .. and what Christians fail to realize is that he was not trying to create a religion. ... and he never never never claimed to be nothing else but the suffering messiah prof. Not a god to show the world that Documentary hypothesis is a fact. And the lying pen of the scribes added the sacrificing of Blood He also. Released the animals from the temple not just because they were buying and selling them because it is evil and god is not a god of sacrifice . Isaiah 1 Jeremiah seven jeremiah twenty two twenty three ezekiel ezekiel twenty two Every one of the prof. Told the same thing the sacrifice is not of El Yudhoda and is demonic
@Blogging Theology You failed to mention that there are two covenants: (1) The Old Covenant spoken by Moses, and (2) The New Covenant spoken by Jesus. The Old Testament long foretold that God would establish a New Covenant: Jeremiah 31:31-34 ³¹ “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- ³² not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them,” saith the Lord. ³³ “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,” saith the Lord, “I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be My people. ³⁴ And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord.’ For they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,” saith the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” The New Testament expounds on Jeremiah 31:31-34. Luke 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.” Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, He saith, “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “when I will make a newcovenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- Hebrews 8:13 In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 12:24 and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. You also failed to mention that Jesus Himself predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the exile of the Jews into foreign lands before the return of Christ: Luke 21:24 ²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. If there was no contention between the Pharisees of Judaism and the early disciples of Jesus Christ, why then was there so much persecution against the early disciples of Christ? You were also wrong to claim that the apostles viewed James (the half brother of Jesus) as their head. The apostles claimed CHRIST was their head (the head of the church) and that the church was His body (the believers). See Ephesians 1:22-23; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:10,19; 1 Corinthians 11:3. And Peter called Paul "our beloved brother" and not "my enemy" anywhere in the New Testament: 2 Peter 3:15-16 ¹⁵ And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you, ¹⁶ as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things. Therein are some things hard to understand, which those who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction. Jesus was not "adopted" but always maintained His divinity even from conception: Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee. Therefore also that Holy Being who shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” Luke 2:10-11 ¹⁰ And the angel said unto them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ¹¹ For unto you is born this day in the City of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” This is significant in that the angel Gabriel and the other holy angels called Jesus "holy" and "the Son of God" and "Savior" and "Christ" and "the Lord." Why is this significant? Because the Old Testament says God alone is the Lord and Savior: Isaiah 43:10-11 ¹⁰ “Ye are My witnesses,” saith the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.¹¹ I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.” There are two natures in Christ: Divine and human. Jesus called Himself God (Revelation 21:6-7). Jesus called Himself the Almighty (Revelation 1:8). God calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8). All of heaven's angels worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6). Jesus is God. Always has been. Still is. Always will be. You say repeatedly "probably" and "apparently" which shows you are guessing and have no idea what you are talking about. 🙂
@iw21012 Agree brother... 100 % The first Gentile believers in Act's. We're told not to continue, by Peter, and PAUL, SAYING . "WHY PUT A NOOSE AROUND THEIR NECK, THAT WE AND OUR PAST GENERATIONS COULDNT KEEP" !
I'm still hoping that someone would send me "Unity and Diversity by James Dunn (of course in pdf format) I think these book is worthy to read for seeking the history of the first followers of Jesus.
So they didn't believe in the Trinity? They believe that Jesus was a Man- maybe a very Spiritual Man, but still a Man. Not the one and only Son of God who died for our sins. Is my interpretation of this Video correct?
The temple is not built for sacrifice, it is built to be a dwelling place for God. Sacrifice was was only done on the outer alter. In the tent, there is the golden table of showbread, the incense alter and the menorah. And of course inside the tent is the holy of holies which had the ark of the covenant where God would manefest between the cherubim.
I am grateful for revealing with clarity the beliefs of the earliest church, lead by James - Jesus’ bother who was appointed head of this community by Jesus. I believe this group and the Ebionites are the best and true picture of what Jesus taught and believe. What we call the Christian church seemed to have adopted creeds that on most points contradict this group and follow Paul. That means the Ebionites have Jesus’ gospel and the church has Paul’s gospel.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
It is hearsay and based only on selective academic research. A full reading of the Bible and the works of the early Church Fathers, reveals that the Ebionites were heretical, not some kind of original form or Christianity.
@@josephseneca4090 SOUNDS like the devil decided to infiltrate your churches.... And yeah their theology did survive all the way until islam, and seems like paul wanted to kill them off and the romans.
@@josephseneca4090 also that doesn't make sense... were the dinosaurs at fault when they went instinct ??? SEEMS like your saying the ones doing the killing are actually correct, and the ones who are dead are some how at fault.
If Paul were truly an apostate to the Law and the Jewish perspective on the Messiah, why does Luke, who preserves the human messiah in his writings, also defend Paul in his narrative from the anti Torah accusations? Why does he portray Paul as innocent of these charges? Further, as I understand it, not all Jewish Christian sects rejected Paul. This needs to be considered in the equation. It seems as though Ehrman and Dunn aren’t being fully transparent with the data.
@@geoattoronto Yes, but gentile or not, Luke says nothing that denigrates the Law, while at the same time portrays Paul as a Torah abiding follower of Messiah.
Also the very term "the earliest Christians were Jews" Is problematic on a fundamental linguistic etymological level. Just as Isa never uttered the words "Christ" or "Christian" or "Christianity" because these anglicised terms simply did not exist at the time of Isa hence he never uttered them) just as he never uttered the words God or deus or logos etc) But similarly moses. David Solomon and all the prophets sent to bani Israel never uttered the words jew Jewish judah Judaism etc simply because they didn't exist. So the religion of moses et al until Isa was never described or named by the above terms, there simply was no "Judaism" there is no letter J in Hebrew! These are all anglicised terms originating after 1100s in Europe. The yahood (Jews) who settled in and around Yathrib (Madinah) centuries prior to the prophets pbuh migration to Madinah never called themselves "Jews" One simply doesn't call oneself by a word that doesn't exist in one's language!
Yehuda is the hebrew word for Judah, right? So Yehudi is the hebrew word for the inhabitants/descendant of Judah (the 4th son of Jacob). So Yehudi already existed back then. Yehudi or Jew, same difference. Jew is just the translation…🤷🏻♀️
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
@@josephseneca4090 Probably compromise within the church in the succeeding years that led to its extinction. But that doesn't mean it stopped there, the fire continued to spread to other geographical locations and kept spreading the word of God [ true doctrines of Christianity] , the Holy Spirit of God the true Inspirer of the true doctrine cannot and will not go into extinction, for He is an Eternal flame.
Paul was quoted as if he were scripture by Polycarp who was taught by John. How can you claim that Paul was an enemy? Everything I see says that Paul was accepted.
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157: "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel". Prophet Muhammad, prophesised in the Book of Deuteronomy: Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet. If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158) Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh). Words in the mouth: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18] Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18). It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned". New Testament Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6: "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' " All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh .....
Having a mother and father are not the exclusive qualities of a prophet but of all humans. The important qualities of a prophet like Moses that was shared by Jesus is they both performed great miracles. Jesus and Moses also came as liberators of God's people, Israel, and establishing a covenant between them and their God. The Allah of the Quran is never referred to as YHWH, the God of Israel. Therefore Muhammed is NOT the prophet like Moses mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:18.
@@AllaahuAkbarr For god so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son jesus christ to this world to die for our sins on the cross.Whoever believes in him shall not die but live an everlasting life(John 3:14)
One of the difficulties with this topic is the variety of meanings various people tend to attach to key words in the discussion. Are Christians people who subscribe to “traditional” interpretations of the Bible? Or are Christians people who anticipate the arrival of the Messiah? Many people assume that the words, “Hebrew”, “Israelite” and “Jew” are synonymous. More than once, for example, I’ve heard clergy say Moses was a Jew. Was he? I’m not aware of any author - biblical or otherwise - using the word, “Jew”, during the lifetime of Moses or before that. The book of Esther includes the word, “Jew”, but the events described in the book of Esther occurred after the death of Solomon, after the division of the kingdom and after the Babylonian captivity. After the death of Solomon, the two kingdoms of the divided kingdom were called Israel (the northern kingdom) - and Judah (the southern kingdom). Presumably the southern kingdom was called Judah because the majority of the citizens of the southern kingdom - which included Jerusalem - were of the tribe of Judah. Theoretically, at least, descendents of the tribe of Judah could have been called, “Jews”, but the word seems to have generally (maybe always) been applied to citizens of the southern kingdom and to expatriates of the kingdom of Judah. So no, Moses wasn’t a Jew - by either of those definitions. Moses was of the tribe of Levi, one of the other eleven sons of the patriarch, Israel (aka Jacob). At first, both the adherents of traditional Judaism and citizens of the Roman Empire considered Christianity to be a sect of the Hebrews’ religion. When I looked for a definition of “zealot” just now, the one that came closest to my understanding of its origins was this one: “The Zealots were a political movement in 1st-century Second Temple Judaism which sought to incite the people of Judea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from the Holy Land by force of arms, most notably during the First Jewish-Roman War.” - Wikipedia Whether they were called zealots before the first century A.D. I’m not sure, but Hebrews who were violently opposed to the Roman occupation of Jerusalem had been a thorn in the side of the Roman Empire even before the first century A.D. The sentiment of the Zealots was not shared by the majority of Hebrews - at least not publicly - until 66 A.D. but that year seems to have been the beginning of the period of time when the greatest numbers of Hebrews took up arms against the Romans and the time - ending in 70 A.D. when the greatest numbers of Hebrews were killed or deported from Judea by Roman military forces. As the Hebrews became more aggressive toward the Romans, the Romans responded in kind. As a result, the hatred of each group toward the other rapidly increased, especially when news reached Rome that the “last stand” of the Hebrews in Jerusalem was when most of the remaining Hebrews retreated into the temple - which was so situated and so well constructed that their full defeat only occurred when the temple was destroyed. The temple - as refurbished by Herod the Great (72 B.C. - 4 B.C.) - had been one of the seven wonders of the ancient world and, of course, the Romans blamed its loss on the obstinacy of the Hebrews, which further increased the Romans’ hatred of the Hebrews. During the last few decades of the first century A.D. there were people in Rome who considered Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah foretold by the Hebrew prophets of antiquity. But they had a problem. Because most Romans could barely distinguish between Christianity and traditional Judaism and because the Romans hated the Hebrews, the Romans tended to hate - or at least be very suspicious of - people who professed faith in Jesus. In order to minimize Roman animosity toward Christianity, some of the people who considered Jesus to be the Messiah were willing to dispense with the instructions in the Torah (aka Pentateuch) in favor of some of the religious practices of the Romans. Some of the Romans’ holidays were given Christian-sounding names. Gradually, some of the people in Rome who considered Jesus to be the Messiah began to profess a similar hatred toward Hebrews as what the Romans had. To enhance this trend, the doctrine was adopted that all Hebrews - even those that weren’t born when Jesus was crucified - were guilty of deicide (killing God). That doctrine was taught in western Europe for more than a thousand years. If I understand the way James D.G. Dunn is quoted in this video, he used the phrase, “heretical Jewish Christianity”. For people in the twenty-first century who are seeking to model their beliefs and practices after the beliefs and practices of first-century Christians, which group is truly “heretical”? Would it be those Hebrews (or/and non-Hebrews) who did and do reject the adoption of the hybrid of the religion of Jesus with the animistic (aka pagan) religious beliefs and practices of the ancient Romans? Or would those people be considered “heretical” who, in the twenty-first century, are monotheistic but who retain many of the traditions and much of the philosophy of the Roman Empire of the first four centuries A.D.? My understanding of history is different in some ways than the understanding of James Dunn. In some cases it may simply be that I describe history differently than he does. Overall, however, I agree that the beliefs and practices of the Christians of the first century - including non-Hebrews who believed Jesus to be the true Messiah - was much closer to that of non-Christian Hebrews than to the traditions that are widely considered “Christian” in the twenty-first century. There is no record in the Gospels that Jesus disagreed with ALL of the traditions taught by the Sanhedrin while he was on Earth. He did, however, reject some of what is today called “the oral Torah”. Which raises this question: For Christians of the first century who were aware of the ways Jesus interpreted the Hebrew Bible differently than “the chief priests and scribes”, did that lead to a diligent comparison of other rabbinical interpretations with the actual text of the Hebrew Bible?
@Faiscal Siraj Jesus never mentioned or went to the Kaaba. Jesus never went to or mentioned a mosque. Jesus never mentioned or went to Mecca. Jesus never mentioned or participated in Islamic observances like Ramadan. Jesus never mentioned a buraq. Jesus never mentioned Muhammad. Jesus never mentioned a Quran. Jesus never mentioned or identified Himself as a Muslim. Instead... Jesus went to the Jewish Temple regularly. Jesus went to Jewish synagogues regularly. Jesus went to Jerusalem regularly. Jesus observed and participated in Jewish holidays like Passover. Jesus spoke about the Holy Ghost. (Muhammad was unholy and a wicked man.) Jesus identified Himself as a Jew. (Read His conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well in the Gospel of John.) Jesus had disciples, not slaves like Muhammad did. Jesus gave life, not murder like Muhammad did. Nope. Jesus was not a Muslim. 🙂
Jesus did NOT abolish the Law - He said He did not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them. He did not change the laws of clean vs unclean foods, the vision was about the attitude towards Gentiles (non-Jews) as unclean.
Stephen is a very early Christian (pre-Paul) who is apocalyptic in outlook (he knows Jesus by apocalyptic title Son of Man from Daniel) and he opposes centrality of Temple worship.
Agreed. Imbedded in Luke/Acts is the story of how Christianity escaped the mental straight-jacket of the Jewish-Christians ("The Way") living in Judea. While I agree with Dunn and this video that the ancient Jewish-Christians were almost indistinguishable from their fellow Jews, Luke did not believe this was the true teleos of "The Way" and that it was Jesus himself directing the moves that led it to become an international religion.
Acts 15:6-11, 'The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles (those without the covenant of the law) might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us (who were under the law, through Moses) and them (who were not), for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke (the law given through Moses) that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? NO! WE BELIEVE IT IS THROUGH GRACE WE ARE SAVED THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, JUST AS THEY ARE.' Matt 5:17-18, 'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.' When did Jesus accomplish everything? The old covenant law was still in place for the Jews and Israel while Jesus was still alive. However, at the crucifiction, the Lamb of God brought a new covenant, ratified by his shed blood, saying, 'It is accomplished' and he sat down at the right hand of God. How is God's righteous law written in the hearts ? Through faith the Holy Spirit coming to reside in the hearts of all who believe. Being obedient to the Holy Spirit who is to lead into all truth. Matthew 5:8, 'God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.' Peter said, God gave the Gentiles his Holy Spirit because they believed.
What does the Bible say about Jewish believers observing the Torah as they live by faith in Christ? Have you read Romans 14? Are you familiar with Galatians 3, Acts 15, and Ephesians 2? Through Christ we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. Paul rightly rebuked and castigated the Judaizers--the Jewish believers who proclaimed Christ, yet were trying to make Gentiles follow the Torah.
Omer Yousif - bro the teachings these people follow are the deviant teachings of Paul. The pagan who never met Jesus but made Jesus into God in the form of man. Modern day Christianity is basically 100% Paulinity.
This Paul changed the teachings of Jesus Christ ! He was a false Apostel /Prophet - he is the real founder of Christianity ( Paulinismus ) ! They believe in 3 Gods !!! Trinity God - God the father Jesus Christ- Son of God Holy Spirit - ( Angel Gabriel 😂) All three personalities are They’re 3-1 Gods, in the same time ! Christianity isn’t monotheistic ❗️ Only Islam is the real and 1 accepted religion for all Mankind from God !
Basiclly it's like MLM scamming where the reward are good to be true ...just believe then your salvation are guaranteed, bring new convert then you get a reward bonus
It is easy to see why Muhammad was a false prophet: 👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13). 👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27). 👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7). 👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17). 👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5). 👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11). 👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16). 👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1). 👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6). 👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17). 👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33). 👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7). 👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5). This describes Islam: 👇 ¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17) "There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
Correction: The first Christians were not just Jews. In Galatians 2:9, after the Jerusalem Council, Peter, James, and John went to the circumcision (Jewish believers) with a specific mission. They gave Paul and Barnabas “the right hand of fellowship,” acknowledging the grace given to Paul for his apostleship to the Gentiles (non-Jews). In essence, they recognized Paul’s commission to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, while they continued to focus on ministering to Jewish believers.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
See ehhh... If u want to access religion especially the monotheistic ones remove the concept of God and compare because the idea that ur God is the right one or powerful because he's one and can't share his power with anybody so in that light he's the one true God can't always be true... christians see their God to be powerful as well in a different way, firstly they think that their God is specializes in doing unusual ( incomprehensible totally different, mind-blowing irrational)things. They see him different from this creation and actively involves with them, they see him as God who can do anything, They see him as God who is intentional about them and his incomprehensibility is what makes him powerful en different and unique... Telling ur self that God maths is not our maths, his ways ar totally different from our and his knowledge is different from ours etc many other reasons oo...so for me, I'm deism and i feel like people are doing too much in comparing ur Gods because whether God is absolutely one or three in one, is only a book that u think or being program to believe tells u to believe...can u ever fact check that!!! If he says he's who he is thats what u will conform to...etc
My dear friend there’s massive big confusion between Israelite as a nation and the Jews as religious communities In the time of Moses Aron David Salomon there were no Jews However Jesus was sent to the Israelite and part of the Israelite followed Jesus and become what we call now Christian and on other group followed the Rabbis authorities who now called Jews
I heard somewhere that Quran general term before coming of Jesus was Bani Israil. After coming of Jesus then Quran use 2 terms for Bani Israil ( Nasara and Jew).
Could you have possibly prefaced Jimmy Dunn as a liberal scholar in your introduction? As such one might then easily understand his dislike for St. Paul.
Unbeliever is such a meaningless term. I'm sure there's plenty you don't believe. Use of such shorthand implies you are passing on what others have told you without pausing to make sense of it.
The Orthodox Church in its final Catholic form is the product and inheritor of the teachings of Paul, Paul won. In what sense could Paul be considered a “heretic”? And by whom?
@@peterhetherington914 a heretic when compared to Peter and James who, by Paul's own admission, started the faith, and presumably by Jesus, who Peter and James knew intimately.
1:49 What about Luke 16:16? “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.”
Great video again, Paul! You are easily one of the best speakers out there! Quick question; can a Jew, Christian or any other person practicing a monotheistic religion, be a Muslim by definition - if they believe in one God, Allah and believe that Muhammad (pbuh) is His prophet and messenger - but still also carry on practicing their own monotheistic religions? For example, did any Jews or Christians during Prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) time, accept Islam but still also practice their own monotheistic religions? Many thanks.
If you believe that Mohammed PBUH is the prophet and messenger of God then you must also believe that The Quran is the Book of Revelations sent by God through him without any errors. Once you believe these two aspects then you are a Muslim. Because the Quran tells you to believe in the unity of God, His angels and His prophets/messengers like Adam, Noah, Lut, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, John, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, peace be upon them all.
@@truthseeker9945Once you believe that Mohammed is the messenger of Allah and Jesus is also the messenger of Allah then you're a Muslim. Once you are a Muslim then you follow the Quran and the actions and sayings of Prophet Mohammed PBUH because in the Quran its mentioned that you follow your prophet Mohammed. There are some teachings in Jews and Christians which clash with teachings in Islam like we Muslims believe Jesus PBUH to be a mighty messenger of Allah, that he was born of a virgin mother Mary; that he was a messiah, that he was not killed nor crucified and he ascended to Allah and that he will come back again. Also there are other tenets of faith like prayers, feasting, zakat (fasting), etc. But these are minor things which you can adept later on. Once you reconcile these things then you are a Muslim. You don't need to be a Jew or Christian because Quran is the complete book of Allah in the original language Arabic and its been preserved for ever. Of course we believe that Allah sent other scriptures like Psalms of David, the Torah and Gospel but we believe that they are corrupted.
Muslim means one who submits to the will of the Creator; not a member of the religion announced by the last Messenger, for the Quran would not call earlier patriarchs and messengers as muslims otherwise. Non-muslim "proselytizers" exploit this non-English word to their advantage makin use of others' ignorance of the meaning of the word. So, who is not a muslim from a dialectical perspective? I think the verses starting from the 4th all the way to the last verse of Alaq clearly define who is not a muslim. They are worth reading again and again and pondering about the idea they convey. It is also very interesting from a chronological perspective since Alaq is the first to be revealed to the last Messenger.
The core of Christian belief is the gospel, the "good news " that, in the sufficient, substitutionary, vicarious and free self sacrifice of Christ, the creative, sustaining and redeeming Son and word of God who, as the reality of God, can forgive sin in his divine nature, and has done so , once for all effective through faith. No orthodox Jew or Christian could accept Mohammed as the Messiah, or the Quran as the word of God. As a Christian. I hold with full assurance that I am saved by faith in the God/man Christ Jesus or that I.sm called to do the will of God as the only appropriate RESPONSE to God's grace. This is the final fulfillment of God:s covenant - the promise of God to take a people to.be his own and to be their God. I cannot accept any teaching that denies the divinity of Christ and his saving initiative. Consequently, no Jew or Christian could ever be a Muslim. This does not mean that I have any lack of respect for the sincerely held beliefs of Islam or those who accept them. However those beliefs are incompatible with the teachings of Judaism and Christianity - which are much more closely related than most realise. I ask you to respect my beliefs, as I do yours.
The book of Acts indeed states clearly that at first, the Christians held on to many of their Jewish rites. Then, God revealed to Peter that no food was unclean. Paul had to remind him if that later on. By the end of Acts, the Christians who authored the NT texts no longer held the Jewish rites as necessary. Luke recorded all of this himself in Acts. He also wrote that Paul was considered by the disciples to be a true apostle, just as they were. It's all in that one book.
then why did orthodox byzantine church ban swine flesh and wine? wine was to be used in baptism cermonies only. your latin translation is a lie and propaganda
However that verse is out of context. Matt 15 read verse 21 to 28 for the entire encounter with the Cannanite woman. The not cast children of Israel's bread before dogs lesson. He states he will not help her, as she is unworthy. Her faith remains steadfast. He heals her daughter proclaiming her strong faith. This lesson is not unlike Abraham and Isaac on the demonstration of faith by The Father telling Abraham something to shake his faith. In the gospels there is also the redemption of the Woman at the Well in the context of Judeans rejecting Samaritans. The faith of the Centurion displayed as greater than the Judeans about him. The "I am the Good Shepard" sermon stating the flock contains others, not here. The problem with single verse quoting is that the verse can be stated alone to imply something that is not the point of the story....such as G-d telling Abraham to butcher his son does not mean that Abrahamic Hebrews were child sacrificers. However if that sentence is all you were given, one would naturally draw that conclusion.
I'm going to get that book. Ironically, I think it might explain some things I'm seeing in Eastern Orthodoxy, and why part of the Ancient Church Fathers, even if not the Ebionite extreme, might have pushed Paul to the wayside. It's just rather strange how absent Pauline doctrine is in early Christianity, as if it didn't even exist, although we know Paul's works were considered authentic even before the canon was completely established. Some of Paul's statements about justification and a more juridical concept of salvation are so clear in his writings, yet you really find little of this in Eastern Orthodoxy, which seems to have more of a Jewish ontological metaphor for salvation. I now wonder how much of Paul was in the earliest lectionaries.
The Early followers and disciples of the Messiah, including Paul (Shaul) were called followers of THE WAY, a Sect called Natzarim (Nazarenes, נוצרים). They were not Ebionites, Ebionites were a different group. Paul (Shaul) did not teach the Torah was done away. Hellenized "Christians" have twisted Paul's letters into lawlessness just as Peter warned would happen; 2 Peter 3:15 "and reckon the patience of our ADON as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha’ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him," 16 "as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures." 3:17 "You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawlessness. " Paul was teaching that we are saved by FAITH but that we don't do away with the Torah because of FAITH, We ESTABLISH THE TORAH. Romans 3:31 "Do we then nullify the Torah through the Faith? Let it not be! On the contrary, WE ESTABLISH THE TORAH." Romans 8:4 "so that the righteousness of the Torah should be completed in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." Romans 13:8 "Owe no one any matter except to love one another, for he who loves another has filled the Torah." 13:10 :"Love does no evil to a neighbour. Therefore, love is completion of the Torah." Paul says the Fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, and that LOVE is the fulfilling of the TORAH. But Hellenized Yahudim (Jews) and Greeks did not understand Paul because they were unlearned in the Torah. Paul was explaining His message against the teachings of Yahudim (Jews) saying your saved only by keeping Torah. Yet they never showed LOVE for other, only themselves. Which the Messiah explains in the 4 Gospels. Paul is explaining that we are saved by FAITH, not of works. The thing is Hellenized Greeks and Jews belief (faith) is not an action word like in Hebrew. Faith in Hebrew is to believe and obey. So true FAITH will produce works of obedience.
"The Gospel of the Holy Twelve " is worth to read for understanding the belief of the Jewish Christians in the first centuary in Jerusalem. The Gospel is available in internet.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
Yes, the Apostles were the first Christians, who did happen to be Jewish, then the gentiles with Paul's teachings. Then the ratio of jewish to gentile belivers completely flipped with gentiles being the dominating majority and it's been like that ever since.
@seek mogol When I was 5 Years I believe God can are all what he will. But then I read the Old Testament and New Testament. In the Old Testament God give a promise that nobody will seen him before they died. And the Old Testament says that nobody must make image of God ! All the Real Prophets of God haven’t seen God. Moses spoke to God with the burning Bush between them. He ( Moses ) don’t saw God ! 👀😉 To protect Moses-he have died !!! New Testament, says Jesus Christ that the One Real God is in heaven. He never claimed I’m God and worship me. I believe in God and I believe in a Prophet Jesus Christ, without Divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ prayed with his forehead in the ground ( like the Muslims ). Christianity know this only from Yoga or gymnastic. That he wouldn’t die !!! To God Almighty. Must a God prayed in this art to God or a Prophet of God !??? Can a God died !??? 😂 When your One God died, where resurrected ( Jesus Christ ) according to you from death ? Was this Satan or the Pope !? Where hold the Universum and the World alive - in the 3 Nights and 2 Days - when your One God was Death ❗️❓👀😂😂😂❓ Christianity Doktrin Jesus Christ must as a God died to pay with his 🔥Suizid 🔥 on the Cross the Price for the Origin Sin, for the Christians. Suizid- Hellfire forever. How many Gods needs the Christianity to become the One God of Abraham !? Christianity with a Divine Jesus Christ make not sense ( logically ) ! Why ? God give his promise that he are One !!! He have not a Women or a Son. And is against he Majestic Nature to lie or contradict His Promise. This is that. He haven’t a beginning or a Ending. This meant : He can’t died ❗️ Jesus Christ have a beginning and a Ending ❗️ He was born ( and will died ). The best part is Jesus Christ self, prayed to his God - Christianity prays to Jesus Christ !!! Conclusion: Jesus Christ God is not the God of Christianity, they pray to Jesus Christ as a God ! 3 Fingers aren’t never 1 finger-like your father are not your mother.
All Jews know this history very well. Christianity adopted Paganism and became more Pagan than Jewish ultimately. The concepts of human sacrifice, resurrection, dualism, Satan, holidays, transmutation, virgin birth, a man being God himself. All these were Pagan beliefs.
The best example that I can think in terms of Judaism today is one that is potentially divisive among Jews, so I try to be careful with it. That example is that of a Jewish Chassidic group called Chabad, that claimed that their Rebbe (Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, of blessed memory) at the time was the Messiah. This view did not disappear when he passed a few years later (1994), and they have their own arguments to support their claim. While most Orthodox Jews have great reverence for the Rebbe, aside from segments of Chabad, they do not see him as the Messiah. While Chabad is sort of a stand-alone group within Orthodoxy their relationship with the rest of Orthodoxy is generally okay, and their writings are rather popular among non-Chabad Jews, while some leaders have publicly voiced concern/opposition over their Messianic stances.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.@@BloggingTheology
Hmmm... the video stopped in mid-sentence. Excellent presentation of the information, and just a FYI, I just ordered the referenced book, and I am looking forward to reading it.
Christians would simply call this heresy. I'm always amazed at how off-the-wall non-Christians get about scripture and historical Christianity. It's one of the things that dispel those occasional doubts that crop up. Of course, as a Muslim, you take every chance to negatively criticize Christ.
The guy has no clue that there are two covenants: (1) The Old Covenant spoken by Moses, and (2) The New Covenant spoken by Jesus. The Old Testament long foretold that God would establish a New Covenant: Jeremiah 31:31-34 ³¹ “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- ³² not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them,” saith the Lord. ³³ “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,” saith the Lord, “I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be My people. ³⁴ And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord.’ For they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,” saith the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” The New Testament expounds on Jeremiah 31:31-34. Luke 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.” Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, He saith, “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- Hebrews 8:13 In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 12:24 and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. The guy also fails to mention that Jesus Himself predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the exile of the Jews into foreign lands before the return of Christ: Luke 21:24 ²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. If there was no contention between the Pharisees of Judaism and the early disciples of Jesus Christ, why then was there so much persecution against the early disciples of Christ? The guy is also wrong to claim that the apostles viewed James (the half brother of Jesus) as their head. The apostles claimed CHRIST was their head (the head of the church) and that the church was His body (the believers). See Ephesians 1:22-23; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:10,19; 1 Corinthians 11:3. And Peter called Paul "our beloved brother" and not "my enemy" anywhere in the New Testament: 2 Peter 3:15-16 ¹⁵ And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you, ¹⁶ as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things. Therein are some things hard to understand, which those who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction. Jesus was not "adopted" but always maintained His divinity even from conception: Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee. Therefore also that Holy Being who shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” Luke 2:10-11 ¹⁰ And the angel said unto them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ¹¹ For unto you is born this day in the City of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” This is significant in that the angel Gabriel and the other holy angels called Jesus "holy" and "the Son of God" and "Savior" and "Christ" and "the Lord." Why is this significant? Because the Old Testament says God alone is the Lord and Savior: Isaiah 43:10-11 ¹⁰ “Ye are My witnesses,” saith the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.¹¹ I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.” There are two natures in Christ: Divine and human. Jesus called Himself God (Revelation 21:6-7). Jesus called Himself the Almighty (Revelation 1:8). God calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8). All of heaven's angels worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6). Jesus is God. Always has been. Still is. Always will be. The old guy in the video says repeatedly "probably" and "apparently" which shows he is guessing and has no idea what he is talking about. 🙂
@@iw21012 this is wat I mean when u loyally want to hold onto Holy Scriptures even though there has been corruption! Your argument is valid but in reality God "the father" is the only God n Jesus is a prophet n messenger He sent to the Jews to bring them back to the law of Moses! All verses pertaining to Jesus as God or Divine r misrepresented !
@@abdulazizmanaf2015 The Quran should indeed be rejected by rational people. It is a book with corrupt information due to Muhammed's ignorance of the Bible, history and science.
Jesus said: “ If you have seen me you have seen the Father”, and “I and the Father are One.” Clearly, Jesus proclaimed himself to be God incarnate. He was not confused about His identity. If some of His followers were, that doesn’t alter the truth, it just makes them ignorant of it. As history would prove, that got straightened out.
Are the beliefs and practices of modern-day Messianic Jews identical with those of the original Jewish Christians? I expect not but what are some differences?
Great question. The Messianic Jews like to portray themselves as identical with the original Jewish Christians but are far from it. For the most part they share the beliefs and outlook of modern day American Protestant evangelicals with an external overlay of Jewish rituals and customs.Their essence is neither Jewish nor like the early Christians. They emphasize all the Protestant theology such as sola Scriptura. Jews of all periods have not taken such a literal and fundamental reading of scriptures. The Messianics constantly downgrade and belittle the works of man but outwardly practice non-biblical Jewish customs which did not exist in the times of the Holy Temple.
If you ever watch a Messianic prayer service, it usually has music and dance which is something newly imagined. It is not like that of Orthodox Jews today nor like anything from the Biblical period. I wish some Messianic would explain where they get dancing around with flags as a Jewish way to pray. Most American Messianics know little Hebrew and their knowledge of Judaism is minimal ( even those who have well known TV or internet programs).
i've read all these texts decades ago at that time i was probably an ebionite catholic planning to join the carmelites order i forgot whether the ebionite gospel had any mention about the antinomian wine & blood drinking ritual which suspiciously might have been assimilated (by paul?) from the greco-roman dionysian ritual along with their firstborn baby sacrifice ritual
Great video brother! Once again you spoke nothing but truth..... And the Qur'an confirms this as well, when it speaks of the jews, it simply says Jews. But when it speaks of Christians, Allah says the Nasara (those who call themselves Christians) which shows that's a title they gave themselves! Mashallah! Alhumdillah!
God has asked me to expose lies/deceptions. Paul whether by quote or otherwise did not speak the truth. If you read the scripture in context you will understand why this comment has been made to you. I am Christian. And yes we weren't always called Christians. We were first just called believers and then at Antioch Christians(english equivalent) Acts 11:26. Archaeology is not subjective Steven Chaffin. History written by modern historians however might at times be. I hate reading things that go against my narrative personally but truth is truth. Some of the early christians did have beliefs diametrically opposed to what our beliefs are today. But the leaders of the Church had the same beliefs we have today Steven Chaffin. The leaders who were the apostles were the ones to teach new converts the way, Jesus is mentioned as stating as much at Matthew 28:16-20. Remember any child must be taught first. The child of himself does not know the way initially. Left to oneself we default to what we knew before and think is true even though our newly accepted beliefs ultimately require change to a new default. I am certain that the comment you made is false in part wrt the video. Forgive my abruptness!
@@teachmetheway7081 I don't see your comment as abrupt! You believe what you believe and that's understandable. But I only can speak from what the Qur'an says which is no doubt from Allah! It is fact that Jesus(pbuh) didn't bring a new religion nor named his teachings Christianity, nor did he ever say worship me, nor did he say he was God. I know due to your belief, I was a Christian before, but in the end it makes no sense at all, there will always be a hole of depression in your life. Christians don't know how to pray, most don't follow the teachings of Jesus(pbuh), most eat pork, are not circumcised, only worship one day out of the week, changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week. Take America for an example Christian country... Aborts millions of children every year, highest crime rate in the world, highest divorce rate, basically a country full of single mothers, men have been feminized. This is due to lack of fear for Allah, and disbelief in your scripture! If people think Jesus(pbuh) died for there sins, you get choas! I know you've heard Christians say there saved, as if there work on earth is completed and it's a guarantee that their going to heaven. Why would someone thinking this not do as thou wilt? Christians drink the blood of christ and eats his flesh during the first Sunday of the month, and you don't see anything wrong with that? That's sounds satanic! And the fact is Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic hebrew, and even today Aramaic Christians call the only God worthy of worship Allahu. They even pray similar to Jews and Muslims. I only want you to see the truth, and its only from Allah, not Paul! Alhamdulillah
@@stevenchaffin3376 I don't see your comment as abrupt! - Great You believe what you believe and that's understandable. -Thanks But I only can speak from what the Qur'an says (Agreed) which is no doubt from Allah (True)! It is fact that Jesus(pbuh) didn't bring a new religion (True) nor named his teachings Christianity (True), nor did he ever say worship me(Basically TRUE), nor did he say he was God.(technically very TRUE) I know due to your belief, I was a Christian before, but in the end it makes no sense at all( true and false at same time you can say), there will always be a hole of depression in your life(TRUE). Christians don't know how to pray(True), most don't follow the teachings of Jesus(pbuh)(True. they follow as they have been led generally), most eat pork(Nah, not sure bout that one), are not circumcised(Not sure bout that one either and don’t intend to investigate either), only worship one day out of the week(NAH WRONG WRONG WRONG), changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.(NAH NOT TRUE WHATSOEVER) Some of my above responses are subject to change but i am surprised (and not being facetious) at your general level of correctness on most of the points granted you were a Christian. I am breaking this response into two parts for better organization and management of my response to you.
@Faisal Siraj Thanks for the response Faisal. I will respond hopefully within 48 hours or less. Need to rest a bit. Do feel free to add to your comment here. i am interested to see your development of certain points.
Only the twelve Apostles received the "Clothing" of the holy Spirit in Acts 2. Jesus had told them to remain in Jerusalem before he was taken up into Heaven so they could receive the clothing of power. Lk 24:49 (BSB) And behold, I am sending the promise of My Father upon you. But remain in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.” Only the Apostles and Cornelius household received this version of the Holy spirit, the rest of the Jews in Acts 2 received the indwelling of holy Spirit after baptism. Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
I believe .. this book is interesting Keep going Mr Williams ... I gain many benefits from your videos Thanks ... May Allah bless you and guide all of us to straighting path
Islam came around 600 years after the resurection of YAHUSHA (JESUS). have YAHUSHA as the only begotten son of The living God and accept HIM as saviour and obey the laws and commandments of God.
something is not right, if the first Christians were not evangelising the non Jews then why Acts 15? If Jesus didn't fulfill the teaching in terms of purity then why Matthew 15,10-20?
Can we say the major change in crectianty happen within early Cristian Jew community without influence from Roman Empire and Roman Empire just take the changes from one group and enforced it with eleminating the rest of early Cristian groups.
How does the writings of Polycarp who was discipled by John and quotes Paul’s letter to the Ephesians fit this theory that only Paul believed in the deity of Jesus? What about Messianic prophecy in Isaiah about the titles of wonderful counselor and God that He will have?
Interesting info. The info itself matches exactly what I have found in early Christianity, however, my conclusions are distinctly different. I’d call it a tale of two churches, one stuck in a wannabe Levitical hierarchy under the influence and leadership of James and the other church that was growing into the Melchizedek priesthood that Christ taught his disciples but they were too stuck in Pharisaical Judaism to see clearly. The results speak for themselves. The Jerusalem church played church and became irrelevant to the community and world at large, the Pauline church turned the world upside down.
@@ggductor1511 any particular documents I should be studying? I’m assuming you’re referring to something besides the New Testament, that sheds more light on the Jerusalem church.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
@@josephseneca4090 My perspective is that James was the head of the church at Jerusalem. I see this as distinctly different than being the head of the church ie all Christianity. As to why it fell into anonymity, my guess is because James was trying to be seeker friendly with the Jews, or trying to merge Pharisaical Judaism with Christianity, something that is actually antithetical to the church Jesus established. This is why Paul was so adamant that his primary concern was if they preached Christ crucified. Crucifixion was an idea that demanded a Jew to go against all of their cultural values and follow Christ even if it cost them their tie to Judaism. This was something that James does not appear to be able to understand, and something that Paul embraced. I believe that history recorded which theology Christ blessed.
Interesting, but unconvincing to me. One thing (I've noticed) missing from the theories of critical historical scholars (to which I've been exposed) is a careful consideration of the work of the Holy Spirit through the miraculous gifts of knowledge, tongues, healing and prophecy, etc. bestowed on early Christians by the hands of the Apostles, which, to me, if considered carefully, would greatly undermine the many creative theories proposed by them. There seems to be way more unity in the first century churches, due to the leading of the Holy Spirit, than diversity. As the miraculous gifts began to decrease following the deaths of the Apostles, then we start witnessing more diversity in doctrine which kept the early "church fathers" quite busy refuting, and, at the same time creating new, uninspired doctrines which, compared to the New Testament teachings (aggregated), appear quite "unorthodox."
Very informative videos, thankyou for that. Can you make a video or tell us some tips how the read more books. How to schedule to read. And just get most out of a book when reading. In short reading tips ahah.
I’ve been wondering how Jewish Christians practiced their faith for three years. Thank you for answering this for me. I think that persecution and Paul preaching to gentiles slowly changed it and spread Christianity around the world.
Dear, Prof Paul. I think it is better when you explain about verse of Paul/Jhon, please recite it in original language (Aramaic/Hebrew), as if you recite the verse of Quran in Arabic, then explaining its meaning and interpretation. 👍💪
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
- Matthew 5:17
"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished" Matthew 5'18
@@tinman7130 thats a vague passage
Nope. That's a vague set of verses. The actually Greek seems to assume that Jesus is talking about a different law then the old law seen in the testament
@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 which law was Jesus talking about?
@@SaintHeretik 1 Corinthians 9
My only issue with Paul is that his videos are not long enough. Outstanding as always, sir.
Most video creators on TH-cam don’t make their videos over 15 minutes because a lot of people won’t watch long videos. You and I would but most people nowadays have the attention span of a gerbil.
@@cervezaway7049 Islam = Religion of the 124K Prophets and 313 Messengers
The only religion of God is the Oness of God and rejection of Polytheism
@@cervezaway7049 which part of god would then be dependent upon the other parts? Don’t you see the inconsistency and irrationality?
God in nature cannot be divided, because which parts are then dependent upon the other parts? That way of thinking makes god dependent upon some other part of himself. One of the definitions of God himself is independence. It is in Gods nature to be free from anything and everything in existence.
Also God is the necessary being and is unique and cannot be anything like his creation. It goes against the nature of God to be anything like His creation.
In addition the gentleman in the video gave you proof that your belief that you hold that Jesus (peace be upon him) was God himself, and the literal son of God is blasphemy according to the ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS. According to the literal followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) who saw him, ate with, lived with him and learned directly from him Paul was seen as a blasphemer and apostate.
Let that last paragraph sink in. This is not my or your opinion. This is the opinion of the TRUE Christians who were the TRUE followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) who saw him, followed him and learned directly from him. Paul on the other side went against if not all overwhelmingly majority of Jesus (peace be upon him) teaching like calling him the one true God, and the literal son of God.. Paul also NEVER met Jesus (peace be upon him). Let that also sink in.
Paul was seen as THE enemy by the true followers of Jesus (peace be upon him), and as an apostate.
I hope you see the inconsistency and irrationality of following Paul’s teachings which are AGAINST Jesus’s (peace be upon him) teaching.
If you truly love Jesus you follow his teachings and NOT Paul’s teachings, and you follow exactly what the apostles and James did. NOT Paul the apostate and blasphemer.
I don’t understand how you can keep the same opinion as Paul when he was seen as an apostate and THE enemy by the apostles and the original followers of Jesus (peace be upon him), like for example his brother James who was the Head leader of council of Jerusalem..
If you have watched this whole video and understood it, and yet still keep the same opinions as the apostate Paul who most Christians today believe in and follow, then you simply are proving yourself that you base your opinions on emotions and not rationality and evidences.
This means any argument you will put forward will be irrational and inconsistent of truth because you yourself deny the proof and evidences that the early ORIGINAL TRUE CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF JESUS (peace be upon him) DENIED Paul and called him THE ENEMY of their FAITH.
Read all of this again carefully and let it sink in.
I will not respond any further because you have proved that you base your opinions on emotions rather than evidences and rationality and you will continue to do so.
Have a nice day.
There is nothing holy at all about Islam:
👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13).
👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27).
👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17).
👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5).
👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11).
👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16).
👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1).
👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6).
👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17).
👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33).
👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7).
👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5).
This describes Islam: 👇
¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17)
"There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
@@iw21012 Is this your response to the EARLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS by barking Mohammed this Mohammed that. YOU ARE OFF POINT.And Mohammed SAAAWS is GREATEST PERSON WHO EVER WALKED ON EARTH!!!Google that if you like.
After reading the whole Bible for 45 years, I can say that the Apostle Paul and James were not really teaching different things. Paul was a staunch believer of the law but was drastically changed when he saw a vision of light and was confronted by the risen Christ on his way to Damascus to persecute Christians. Paul teaches that we are not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 2:16). James’s letter had a different focus than Paul’s. His letter focuses on virtues as a consequence of true faith (James 2:18-20). Didn’t James say that whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it? (James 210). We all know that all have sinned (Romans 3:23). That’s not Paul’s teaching but a truth that we can easily confirm by examining ourselves. As such, if we were to be judged through our works, we will all be subject to judgment. Matthew 5:48 says, “Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect.” Acts 15’s discussion of what should be the rules for the Gentiles in the Jerusalem Council concluded that Gentiles should only abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). The conclusion was based on divine revelation given to Peter in Acts 10 and the testimony of Barnabas and Paul. Peter was more orthodox than Paul but Peter himself wrote that Paul’s teachings were scriptures (2 Peter 3:15-16). The idea that Jesus has divine nature was taught by the apostles. John discussed this more exhaustively because he had the opportunity to ponder on Jesus’s teachings for a longer time and he was blessed to see not only the transfigured Christ but the glorified Christ (Revelation 1). John expressed the eternal nature of Jesus Christ in John 1:1 & 1 John 1:2. Matthew expressed his understanding of Christ’s divinity when he documented the temptation of Christ when Jesus told Satan, “You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.” Satan was tempting Jesus, not the Father (Matthew 4:6), thus, Jesus claimed to be God. In John 8:23-24, Jesus delineated Himself from the rest of humanity by saying, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins if you do not believe that I Am (Greek: Ego Eimi; Hebrew: Ehyeh). That conversation with the Jews ended with the Jews picking up stone to stone Jesus because they understood His claim of deity when He said, “Truly, truly,I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am (Ego Eimi). Ego Eimi is a divine name. It’s God’s revelation of His own nature. Even the writer to the Hebrews declared Jesus’s divinity. In Hebrews 1:3, the writer said that the world was created through the Son. The Son is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of His nature, and He upholds the universe by the word of His power. In verse 1:8, God called the Son, “God.” In Hebrews 1:10-12, God declared that the Son created the universe and that He will never end.
If you believe that the Bible is inspired by God then, you should not divide the Bible into teachings of Paul, Peter, James, John, Luke,etc.. You should refer to it only as the word of God.
The Bible teaches a Jesus with two natures: fully divine (John 1:1, Philippians 2:6-11; Mark 14:62; Luke 4:8; Hebrews 1:8, 10-12) and fully human (John 1:14; Philippians 2:7-8; 1 Timothy 2:5).
Jesus was eternally God as was described by John in John 1:1 using the imperfect tense with continuous aspect. He became flesh in John 1:14 using the aorist tense indicating that sometime in the past , Jesus put on humanity. Jesus came for one main reason: to die for the sins of the world. The penalty for sin is death. Since all have sinned, no one is qualified to be the propitiation for our sins except for Jesus. In His pre-incarnate state, Jesus could not save us. He could not shed His blood as a Spirit God. Without shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). It was decided sometime in eternity that Jesus would suspend His independent use of His divine power and be a man so that He could save us without violating His justice (Philippians 2:5-11; 1 Peter 1:18-20). Jesus issued a promise, “Truly, truly,, I say to you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” Can the word of God be any clearer that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ? Anyone who tries to save himself on his own is doomed because he will not be covered by God’s unmerited favor (Romans 4:2-6; Ephesians 2:4-9).
God is just but He is also love. Those two traits were satisfied on the cross. Jesus is coming back. He will either be our judge or our savior. The choice is ours.
Isn’t it surprising that only Paul saw and heard Jesus (PBOH) Paul was clearly delusional because there is no EVIDENCE that it was Jesus (PBOH ) that he saw
Isn’t it surprising that only Paul saw and heard Jesus (PBOH) Paul was clearly delusional because there is no EVIDENCE that it was Jesus (PBOH ) that he saw
@@ahganchi Yet the apostles agreed Paul was an apostle and of the faith, and Paul transformed from a Pharisee persecuting Christians to a Christian under extreme persecution, to his death, himself.
You can call it delusion, but its clear that he saw what he saw, and had profound revelation and transformation of his heart through the Holy Spirit, and the apostles agreed he was one of them.
Well said! In addition, St. John of Damascus identified the Ebionites as heretics, since they believed that Christ and the Holy Spirit were created in heaven and that Christ dwelled in Adam as was incarnated as Adam. Clearly, they were not Christian. Paul has also been a dear Saint to all Christians and was in complete agreement with the Apostles and James. As Amorfina said, just read Acts 15.
@@ahganchi if he didn't see the lord Jesus Christ God resurrected king 👑 then he would not have had the power for miracles and to make me Christianity what it is today. We wouldn't be talking about it. Hell we would all be Muslims today. Too bad for you didn't happen. Maybe 🤔 think
As a Christian, I don't think of my faith as 'separate' from the earliest Jewish believers. If anything, whenever I think of the church, this is my first image of what 'church' is, the ecclesia who were in the first instance 'called out' Jewish believers in Yeshua as Messiah. I believe there are many Christians, probably far more than presumed, that identify with the church as written in the New Testament, beginning with the disciples. I don't think this should be any surprise to anyone. At 5:56, Paul in his video, departs from scriptural evidence and asserts his assumption that the earliest believers "didn't believe that Jesus died for their sins" - here Paul is simply departing from the scriptural evidence to assert his own desires, because the scripture tells us the opposite in 1 Corinthians 15:3-7 "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: *that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,* 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles." - Paul having received this from Peter the disciple and James the brother of Jesus.
By Paul asserting his own Islamic bias, here, that 'Jesus didn't die for anyone's sins', is simply NOT in the scripture. The opposite is the case, in which the gospels are linked inescapably to Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22, which affirm the Suffering Servant who "bore the iniquities of many". There simply isn't the scripture to back up Paul's assertion in the video, which represents in reality a very immature comprehension of the Messiahship of Jesus, which was recognised by the earliest Jewish believers and was eventually why these earliest believers were ejected from the Temple and synagogues, James being martyred, despite his Jewish church leadership in Jerusalem.
The council of nassariah 🙂
The problem is that what you call scriptures developed much later and became canonical, destroying and suppressing everything before it. You should start by examining the historical accuracy of the NT. Read the book "The five gospels" from the Jesus Seminar.
@@disuser-lp3qv1tm8f re: “The problem is that what you call scriptures developed much later and became canonical, destroying and suppressing everything before it.” >> Perhaps you would like to provide some EVIDENCE for your statement? I suggest to you, that your statement is pure supposition. Without any evidence you are on very weak ground, that is totally depending upon your imagination!
There is actually far greater evidence that the Quran is actually what you are describing here! The reason for this, is that if we follow the text of the Quran, it leads us all the way back on a trail through centuries of the history of Christian heretical groups, who denied the divinity of Christ and ideas about the trinity. What you have in the Quran, all comes from Christian heresies, that existed in Syria and the Near East, before the 7th century. The Quran is the final edition of Christian lectionaries from these Christian groups, which we understand to be called the Quriyana text (Lectionary).
So this represents the real story behind the Quran, not the one you have been told.
For a start, the reason your statement is clearly error, is that you claim that our scriptures “destroyed and suppressed everything before it”! But this is obviously untrue! What came before the New Covenant or New Testament, is the ‘Old Testament’ or Tanack and you will find that full Bibles contain both the New Testament and the Old Testament that came before it! Therefore, the scriptures of the New Testament did NOT ‘suppress or destroy, everything before it’! You see when you make clearly erroneous statements that have no foundation to them, they fall apart pretty quickly!
The foundation to the New Testament is the Old Testament which is attached to it (before it).
re: “You should start by examining the historical accuracy of the NT.” >> You mean you want me to RETURN AGAIN to ‘examine the historical accuracy of the NT’?
Why would you want me to go over this again? I am satisfied with the historical validity of the NT.
re: “Read the book "The five gospels" from the Jesus Seminar.” >> I’ll read that if you read Christof Luxenborg’s book explaining why the Quran is really an Aramaic text from Christian sources that has been corrupted by the editor of the Quran - ok?
The so called “Jesus Seminar”, is an outdated and largely discredited movement in today’s theology, with good reason! Modern theologians consign this movement to the dusty shelves of ‘has beens’ because they used some very poor rational as the basis for their protocols and theories, which were based upon presumptions from sceptics, who do not believe in God or the miraculous. So for you, as a Muslim, for instance, you would not support the rational behind the so called ‘Jesus Seminar’ because a Muslim would regard it as ungodly. The people of the Jesus Seminar, for instance would regard the ‘virgin birth’ you have in the Quran as nonsense and untrue and therefore would discredit the validity of the Quran and its author(s).
As you are apparently so interested in the historicity of the NT for some strange reason (I don’t know why that would be of any interest to you, as you are a Muslim), then I recommend you to read “Reinventing Jesus: How Contemporary Skeptics, miss the Real Jesus and Mislead Popular Culture”, by J. Ed. Komoszewski; M. James Sawyer and Daniel B. Wallace, published in 2006, by Kregel Publications.
You will see from the above book that the general public is being hoodwinked and mislead on a massive scale, about the New Testament, often led by popular characters like Bart Ehrman, who has spent his life trying to justify his backslidden state, and making good money out of misleading young people etc.
@@peaceinjesus5221 the difference between you and me is that when it comes to the NT I listen to the best academic experts on the subject, while, on the other hand, when it comes to the Qur'an, you listen to unqualified and/or bigoted liars.
What is also funny is that you claim that the public is being misled by critical scholars of the NT, while in fact the exact opposite is true, namely that the general public still believes that the Gospels are God's word and have absolutely no idea how they came about.
My interest in early Christianity as a Muslim is to confirm, through human knowledge, what divine knowledge in the Qur'an already says about it, which is, that Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of.
@@disuser-lp3qv1tm8f re: “the difference between you and me is that when it comes to the NT I listen to the best academic experts on the subject, while, on the other hand, when it comes to the Qur'an, you listen to unqualified and/or bigoted liars.” >> You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but of course, having an opinion can be as misguided as having no opinion! Expressing one’s opinion is not a guarantee of being correct! You could be very wrong and in this case, your opinion is not only driven by your prejudice, but it is overtly emotionally defensive! Emotional responses like this, of a defensive nature, have the characteristic of blind panic in response to a perceived threat! It is this that you are presenting to me, in reply.
You see an intelligent response to my reply to you, would have been to say: “How interesting, ….I must find this book by Christoff Luxnborg, read it and learn what I can from it, even if at the end of it, I don’t agree with his conclusions”,….but you will note that instead, your own response is: “they are unqualified”….”they are liars”,….”they are bigoted”! Can you see how your response is emotionally driven in a knee jerk defensive response, instead of intelligently considering the matter? Luxenborg is none of these things!
The scholars involved in the Jesus Seminar, enjoyed fame for a while, but they created their own criteria, which while having some rational behind it, also had the distinct possibility that it lead them to gross errors! The criteria which they used, was based upon a collection of presumptions and these presumptions derived from their personal position of sceptical scholarship, which denied any possibility of divine interventions or the miraculous, including the possibility of divine prophecies. Therefore in the mind of a Jesus Seminar scholar, there is no such a thing as Prophecy foretelling the future - this to a Jesus Seminar scholar is non existent. Therefore, a Jesus Seminar scholar, looking at your Quran, would completely dismiss it as any kind of ‘revelation’ or having any prophetic foretelling. In their mind, the Quran is relegated to being a product of collective authorship, and they would use criteria in studying it, which would deconstruct it, in the same kind of manner as they tried to deconstruct the Bible.
re: “What is also funny is that you claim that the public is being misled by critical scholars of the NT, while in fact the exact opposite is true, namely that the general public still believes that the Gospels are God's word and have absolutely no idea how they came about.” >> There is nothing “funny” about this subject. It is a serious matter! I referred you to a book which addressed this subject. I did not write it. It is written by scholars who have made it their life’s work to study the New Testament manuscripts. They are not amateurs! However, I will tell you what is “funny”….its your reluctance and absolute prejudice in considering any other possibilities and perspectives than your own because you are using these accusations to try to prop up your religion of Islam! ….I can see through this, straight away!
I’m very satisfied that the New Testament is an authentic collection of writings inspired by God for my spiritual Birth, Growth and benefit, as it is and has been for millions of other people, since 2000 years ago! There is nothing that is going to change now! I would politely suggest, that unless you have read the book I recommended to you, that you cannot possibly have anything but an unbalanced view generated by sceptical critics of the Bible and God. Any intelligent mind, will read all sides of a subject, in order to discover truth…..NOT JUST THE SIDE HE WANTS TO SUPPORT HIS AGENDA! (this is what you are doing!).
re: “My interest in early Christianity as a Muslim is to confirm, through human knowledge, what divine knowledge in the Qur'an already says about it, which is, that Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of.” >> Firstly as a Muslim, Christian faith, has absolutely nothing to do with you - it is not your business. You have your own religion and if you think that has any truth in it, you should be sticking to your belief in Allah and Mohammed, not criticising someone else’s faith.
Secondly, you claim that the Quran has “divine knowledge”, yet fail to intelligently apply a critical approach to the Quran, to see if that is actually true! Let me put it this way for you: If the Quran was truly “a revelation” from God to an Arabic man, in far off Mecca, who had nothing at all to do with the faith of Christians and Jews or their scriptures/writings, you would NOT read anything at all in it, pertaining to either Jewish or Christian religion. You would instead have a book which spoke only to the Arabic and nomadic context of the people receiving the “revelation”, because that is how God speaks. God never reveals himself by going to great lengths to criticise another religion. He may mention criticisms in passing, but that is all. Yet here in the Quran, we cannot read this text, with any other opinion, that it is the work of a man or men, who have constructed an Anti-Christian polemic and Anti-Jewish polemic!
An intelligent mind would also be careful to note that the Quran makes absolutely no mention of criticisms of the religion of Aborigines in Australia, or the religion of North American indigenous natives, or of the religion of Eskimos, nor of the religion of Hinduism or Bhuddism! These religions are NOT addressed in the Quran and receive no criticism, because the author of the Quran did not know about these religions, or the people who lived in these far off places!! The reason for this is that the author or authors, were personally acquainted with Jewish and Christian faiths of the surrounding region, but had little or no knowledge of the above people and their religions of far off regions around the world! Yet the peoples on the other side of the world, were just as significant as those in the Near East! The Quran’s author had no knowledge of them!! It is things like this that expose the Quran as a writing which can only have originated from a man or men who wrote only of their own small world, criticising only what they had knowledge of!
Since the above, is so apparently the case, your comment: “Christians have corrupted their religion and gone completely astray, which you are a perfect example of”, cannot be taken with any seriousness, when the author of the Quran was so obviously human and not ‘divine’.
I’d also add, that I haven’t “corrupted” anything. I am a grateful recipient of God’s grace to me, in which He has mercifully opened the Eternal door of His redemption and salvation. In this, I have received great Joy, wonderful Peace and a love which only comes from the Saviour, Jesus!
You should humble yourself at the feet of Jesus and listen to the gospel, which he is the inspirer of and receive the Grace that comes only from Him.
Jesus did not come to destroy Jewish law. He came to give us a better alternative.
If you think you can follow the law than you can do so, but you will fail. As he said, " nonoe is without sin" It's much easier to follow Jesus.
Always wonderful.
And almost 400k people who benefit from your channel.
Let's hope over millions will soon join your channel inchallah.
How comes I am just knowing about you now. You are full of knowledge and wisdom. Greetings from Africa.
@@cervezaway7049 I see Alhamdulillah, I will add him to the list of scholars I follow that are living in the West, the like of Hamza Yusuf, Al-hakim Murad, Shabir Ally. Unfortunately, I don't know his name. What is his name?
Alhamdulillah, I just found this channel today. Very enlightening..
A closer look at Islam:
👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13).
👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27).
👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17).
👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5).
👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11).
👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16).
👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1).
👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6).
👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17).
👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33).
👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7).
👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5).
This describes Islam: 👇
¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17)
"There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
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Hahahaha but still they convert to Islam every day.
@@iw21012 You got other lies ?
So very important information (for the christians) thank you dear Paul
Hey. Guess what? The Christians know there were dozens, if not hundreds, of early sects that didn’t line up with the Christianity that won out in the end.
This is why Islam is the truth .
Congrats Paul on reaching 6k subs so quickly. This style really suits you. I am enjoying the research you are sharing.
Thanks!
@seek mogol you keep posting this but it only make it more clear that ur an ass hat ..
:)
@seek mogol Isaiah 29:12
And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot read.”
Bible miracle as well 🤫
@Shalom Shalom did Jesus speak Greek?
@@ozarad6263 where's the original of bible
Another great scholarly work imparted with ease and sincerity. I'm sure we'll soon read you book for which you will also be interviewed in one of your videos. You certainly have all the credentials and more for writing. Keep up God's good work, you will be more than blessed. Thank you Paul.
No mention of the Jerusalem Council which is also recorded in the book of Acts. The disagreements between Peter and Paul are recorded in scripture. The influx of Gentiles into the church started happening prior to the completion of the New Testament and the Apostles agreed that the gentiles were not required to follow the law, especially regarding circumcision.
Pretty much, seeing as Paul viewed circumcision being required for Gentiles as binding them to keep the whole law, which he expressly states no flesh can be justified by. Jesus most certainly fulfilled the law. He is the substance to the shadow. Now we, uphold the law when we proclaim the good news and love our neighbor in His name.
It's not surprising that the heretical sect had some beliefs similar to the early church, as Jesus said in John 16;12-15 "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come." So the very early church was still learning the full truth about many things, and apostles such as Saul, James, Peter etc wrote teachings to bring clarity and knowledge of the truth. Those who rejected these teachings of the Apostles were bound to remain in heresy.
The people who spent years with Jesus knew more about his teachings than Paul who never even met him
@@FiveNineO but Paul was martyred, wasn't he? Would you be willing to die for something you know isn't true?
@@shinnightwood1971 that would not make him right nor would it make his believes true and do tell me the source that tells that he was "martyred"
Brother Paul I'm loving this channel. I watched you for years at speakers corner, love your work❤️
Awesome! Thank you!
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
I just started watching your videos, I really like the way you explain everything 👌
Ironic that you're name is Paul, while referencing how "Paul" had nothing to do with original Christianity. However what seems strange is that apparently Ebionites were vegetarians and hated animal sacrifices, also in their gospel. How then could the temple be central to them if they hated the sacrificial system and the eating of meat?
'Apparently'???????
6:00 Paul did not teach that the law was non-applicable. Paul has been poorly interpreted and vastly misrepresented.
Thanks!
Many thanks Dan!
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
That was a revelation ... but in some ways, not a surprise that over time an institution veers away from its foundational principles ... Thank you.
Things of this world devolve with time as all things......corruption has a slow walk at times.
Foundational principles are based on the Bible in its entirety. Cherry picking passages to make a point is not the hallmark of a Scholar. Wake up from such ignorance and be consistent.
Can you explain Peters dream in Acts?
This is why it’s so important that Christians read the scriptures, and not be led astray. In the Gospels, Jesus claims to be God, not just some virtuous man. The very reason he was hung on the cross. Also, it’s no secret that there was strife between Paul and Peter, it’s actually documented in the book of Acts.
Jesus never claimed to be God.
@@Michael-Archonaeus Jesus, most certainly did.
@@Saltyjman I have been searching the manuscripts for 5 years now, sorry to disappoint you, I have not found even one instance of that.
@@Michael-Archonaeus ,”before Abraham was, I am”. God is the great I Am. Jesus
@@Saltyjman That is a mistranslation of Jesus' words, and "I am" is not a name, it's a simple statement.
If I tell you that I am hungry, I am not invoking some claim to divinity, nor if you talk about this Michael on TH-cam, and I say in koine Greek "ego eimi" which means I am/I am him/that is me, I am still not claiming to be God, I am claiming to be that Michael from TH-cam, and even though Michael means "who is like God" I am not claiming to be he who is like God either.
"Before Abraham came to be" is a more accurate translation, now when did Abraham come to be? This requires understanding of the scriptures, Abraham came to be when Abram made a covenant with God and became Abraham. Jesus was saying that even before the Abrahamic covenant, he was who he is, which is an allusion to the fact that the priesthood of Jesus is greater than that of the Levites, because Jesus is high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.
If I said that even before I was conceived, I was who I am, that doesn't mean I actually pre-existed, it simply means that God planned my life long before I came into the world, and I was always meant to be who I am now.
God isn't "the great I am," no one is, because that's not something anyone can be.
God is the one who is, that's what he said to Moses, aka he is the one true God, as opposed to all the other gods, he is the one who actually exists. God then announced his name to be whatever the original pronunciation of the tetragrammaton was.
Jesus is not called directly by that name, but rather by a derivative of that name, which is the same name that was given to the son of Nun, Jesus or Joshua, however you prefer to say it, Jesus Christ or Joshua the Messiah.
Blogging theology: I listened to your commentary on this matter. I can understand how the Jews continued with their temple practices and their religion even after receiving Jesus as their Messiah. We have to understand how God used Jesus’s murder in a surprising way for the Jews such that they had no idea of this New covenant, and a transition which Paul brought after his revelation, started what christianity is all about. Contrary to what many believed then and now, Paul did not abolish the Law but replaced it with a New way to receive true acceptance and righteousness by God apart from doing what the Law requires. Those who put Paul against the Law do not understand christianity. Just as Jesus said “ I did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it”, Paul actually implemented Jesus’s statement. Faith in the work of Jesus on the cross , and believe in his resurrection is what God requires us to do to become part of the New covenant in Jesus’s blood. Jesus promised the Spirit in John 7:38, John explains the coming of the Spirit as being the source of life and the necessity for Jesus to die on the cross and be resurrected for this to happen. The righteousness as Paul states in Galatians and Romans, does not come from the Law because the only way to attain that righteousness is by the Spirit of God and it takes faith according to the New Covenant to receive the Spirit. Love is the consequence of that New Covenant, and this Love can only come from God, and as the Scripture say, Love fulfills the whole Law. Just as God in the Old Testament promised Israel to give them a new heart, faith is the vehicle to receive that new heart because as Paul says, no one is justified by the works of the Law because by the Law we receive the knowledge of sin, only faith can justify us before God, or make us righteous before God.
Excellent, and perfectly said. JESUS is the way the truth and the life and no one can come to the father but by Him. If this is not so then he is a lying prophet and all of humanity is dead in their sin. But praise Almighty God that Jesus who now sits at the right of God is the perfect sacrificial lamb. This is the good news, and Gift out of pure love to human kind and unlike the religions of the world who would love to hate and kill you for beleiving the truth God gives you a choice to choose His Gift or reject it. In that way He allows us to choose for yourself between everlasting life in Jesus Christ or eternal separation but advises to choose life. The flesh prefers dead religion like Islam, catholicism, churchianity etc. These are simply blind mans attempt to save himself which is like unto a blind man trying to give himself sight in order to pick his way through a dense forest. They are all darkness arrogently posing as light. The whole point of the law is to show us how impossibly lost and hopless our situation is. Only God can save us byJesus Christ and through the mighty power of His holy spirit working in us and enabling us, empowering us to change from the inside outwards so that we too, like Jesus can walk in the newness of life. This is the botom line and arguing in your head about whether paul was right or james was right and going to scholarship to push your particular false religion perspective is absolutely futile. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one can/ is able to come to the Father but by JESUS. The popes and mohommad who murdered millions of people in order to force them to follow false religion will have to bow before Jesus and repent. They and every living thing and entity in heaven on earth and below earth will have to acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Its as simple and complicated as that.
Paul had a clear vision of Christianity however, Some of the Jewish Christians doubted matt 28:17. James, a leader was trying to balance Paul extremity(radical change) and pharisee party as Paul describe them
These party believe in the mixture of Jesus and law of the temple. Old habit hardly die!
Later some these pharisee doubts became heretical view
@@marioserafin3177 That's the truth. That's why Christ utterly destroyed the Temple and sacrificial priesthood and the ceremonial laws all in one moment of time in 70 ad.
All foretold by the prophets and God,s law of blessing and cursing.
@@goodman4093 Paul along with Jesus were very much misunderstood from the beginning. The ministry of the twelve started at Pentecost as they received power from above. They preached Jesus to be the Messiah and for the Jews and the rest of the Israelites to believe in him. We do not know if the apostles understood Paul, we do not have any solid data to know what the twelve actually believed concerning the New Covenant which superseded the Old. No one could have thought that they actually killed their own Messiah, and that God used that murder to free them from the Old Law. Paul understood this change.
It is hardly conceivable that the intimate followers, disciples of Jesus should have been unaware of a new covenant and that a man who never had encountered Jesus ans who never had been interested in his life and in his sayings sbould have hade the "true way"!
Paul did everything to abolish the law and was in constant struggle with the "circumcised"
This idea that Judaism and Christianity were almost the same up until the 70's would require that we forget about the work, teaching and legacy of St. Paul, who was already martyred by AD 65. The evidence in support of these theories is almost non-existent.
We do not know that Paul was martyred.
Appreciate the amount of videos you're putting out. Thanks brother.
so happy to have found you, cant wait to learn more. many thanx
All those books in the background. Your deserve a thumps up.
I’ve thought for a while that what we know as Christianity is actually a religion created by Paul. Jesus was pretty clearly focused on behavior, and Paul was worried about building a cohesive following.
2:30 Well Jesus expressly says he has not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Not sure what your surprise is about, it's right there in the Gospels.
I am Hebrew and the root word fulfill in the way yeshu spoke in Aramaic meaning to add or to make the law more.. and we find the very next scriptures are doing just that .. and what Christians fail to realize is that he was not trying to create a religion. ... and he never never never claimed to be nothing else but the suffering messiah prof. Not a god to show the world that Documentary hypothesis is a fact. And the lying pen of the scribes added the sacrificing of Blood He also.
Released the animals from the temple not just because they were buying and selling them because it is evil and god is not a god of sacrifice . Isaiah 1 Jeremiah seven jeremiah twenty two twenty three ezekiel ezekiel twenty two Every one of the prof. Told the same thing the sacrifice is not of El Yudhoda and is demonic
I would think that those who received instructions directly from Christ would be the ones who got it right.
so what's the reason for the bible's existence?here, 1Corinthians 4:6,Galatians 1:8,Isaiah 34:16.read it up.
Loving these videos. Really insightful! Thank you Sir.
Glad you like them!
@Blogging Theology
You failed to mention that there are two covenants:
(1) The Old Covenant spoken by Moses, and
(2) The New Covenant spoken by Jesus.
The Old Testament long foretold that God would establish a New Covenant:
Jeremiah 31:31-34
³¹ “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- ³² not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them,” saith the Lord. ³³ “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,” saith the Lord, “I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be My people. ³⁴ And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord.’ For they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,” saith the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
The New Testament expounds on Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Luke 22:20
Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.”
Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, He saith, “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “when I will make a newcovenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-
Hebrews 8:13
In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 12:24
and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
You also failed to mention that Jesus Himself predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the exile of the Jews into foreign lands before the return of Christ:
Luke 21:24
²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
If there was no contention between the Pharisees of Judaism and the early disciples of Jesus Christ, why then was there so much persecution against the early disciples of Christ?
You were also wrong to claim that the apostles viewed James (the half brother of Jesus) as their head. The apostles claimed CHRIST was their head (the head of the church) and that the church was His body (the believers). See Ephesians 1:22-23; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:10,19; 1 Corinthians 11:3.
And Peter called Paul "our beloved brother" and not "my enemy" anywhere in the New Testament:
2 Peter 3:15-16
¹⁵ And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you, ¹⁶ as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things. Therein are some things hard to understand, which those who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Jesus was not "adopted" but always maintained His divinity even from conception:
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee. Therefore also that Holy Being who shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
Luke 2:10-11
¹⁰ And the angel said unto them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ¹¹ For unto you is born this day in the City of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”
This is significant in that the angel Gabriel and the other holy angels called Jesus "holy" and "the Son of God" and "Savior" and "Christ" and "the Lord."
Why is this significant? Because the Old Testament says God alone is the Lord and Savior:
Isaiah 43:10-11
¹⁰ “Ye are My witnesses,” saith the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.¹¹ I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.”
There are two natures in Christ:
Divine and human.
Jesus called Himself God (Revelation 21:6-7).
Jesus called Himself the Almighty (Revelation 1:8).
God calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8).
All of heaven's angels worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6).
Jesus is God.
Always has been.
Still is.
Always will be.
You say repeatedly "probably" and "apparently" which shows you are guessing and have no idea what you are talking about. 🙂
@@iw21012 The blind think they see but are led astray
@@iw21012 Beautiful rebuttal.
@iw21012 Agree brother... 100 % The first Gentile believers in Act's. We're told not to continue, by Peter, and PAUL, SAYING . "WHY PUT A NOOSE AROUND THEIR NECK, THAT WE AND OUR PAST GENERATIONS COULDNT KEEP" !
Hey can you please make a website for all the book you mention on your channel. It'll be a service to mankind.
God willing
@@BloggingTheology Thank you.
@@BloggingTheologywhat do you think of revelations 2:9 and 3:9 sir?
I'm still hoping that someone would send me "Unity and Diversity by James Dunn (of course in pdf format)
I think these book is worthy to read for seeking the history of the first followers of Jesus.
So they didn't believe in the Trinity? They believe that Jesus was a Man- maybe a very Spiritual Man, but still a Man. Not the one and only Son of God who died for our sins. Is my interpretation of this Video correct?
The temple is not built for sacrifice, it is built to be a dwelling place for God. Sacrifice was was only done on the outer alter. In the tent, there is the golden table of showbread, the incense alter and the menorah. And of course inside the tent is the holy of holies which had the ark of the covenant where God would manefest between the cherubim.
I am grateful for revealing with clarity the beliefs of the earliest church, lead by James - Jesus’ bother who was appointed head of this community by Jesus. I believe this group and the Ebionites are the best and true picture of what Jesus taught and believe. What we call the Christian church seemed to have adopted creeds that on most points contradict this group and follow Paul. That means the Ebionites have Jesus’ gospel and the church has Paul’s gospel.
Keep going Prof. I really like your videos based on real academic research not hearsay !!!
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
It is hearsay and based only on selective academic research. A full reading of the Bible and the works of the early Church Fathers, reveals that the Ebionites were heretical, not some kind of original form or Christianity.
@@josephseneca4090 hearsay. Not heresy. What are you talking about 😂
@@josephseneca4090 SOUNDS like the devil decided to infiltrate your churches.... And yeah their theology did survive all the way until islam, and seems like paul wanted to kill them off and the romans.
@@josephseneca4090 also that doesn't make sense... were the dinosaurs at fault when they went instinct ??? SEEMS like your saying the ones doing the killing are actually correct, and the ones who are dead are some how at fault.
If Paul were truly an apostate to the Law and the Jewish perspective on the Messiah, why does Luke, who preserves the human messiah in his writings, also defend Paul in his narrative from the anti Torah accusations? Why does he portray Paul as innocent of these charges?
Further, as I understand it, not all Jewish Christian sects rejected Paul. This needs to be considered in the equation. It seems as though Ehrman and Dunn aren’t being fully transparent with the data.
So Luke defends the theology of Paul and his narrative supports Paul’s gospel . Well, Luke travelled with Paul as a gentile Christian.
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Yes, but gentile or not, Luke says nothing that denigrates the Law, while at the same time portrays Paul as a Torah abiding follower of Messiah.
Also the very term
"the earliest Christians were Jews"
Is problematic on a fundamental linguistic etymological level.
Just as Isa never uttered the words "Christ" or "Christian" or "Christianity" because these anglicised terms simply did not exist at the time of Isa hence he never uttered them) just as he never uttered the words God or deus or logos etc)
But similarly moses. David Solomon and all the prophets sent to bani Israel never uttered the words jew Jewish judah Judaism etc simply because they didn't exist.
So the religion of moses et al until Isa was never described or named by the above terms, there simply was no "Judaism" there is no letter J in Hebrew!
These are all anglicised terms originating after 1100s in Europe.
The yahood (Jews) who settled in and around Yathrib (Madinah) centuries prior to the prophets pbuh migration to Madinah never called themselves "Jews"
One simply doesn't call oneself by a word that doesn't exist in one's language!
Neither the old testament prophets , neither Jesus said they were muslims, be fair .
Yehuda is the hebrew word for Judah, right? So Yehudi is the hebrew word for the inhabitants/descendant of Judah (the 4th son of Jacob). So Yehudi already existed back then. Yehudi or Jew, same difference. Jew is just the translation…🤷🏻♀️
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
@@josephseneca4090 Probably compromise within the church in the succeeding years that led to its extinction. But that doesn't mean it stopped there, the fire continued to spread to other geographical locations and kept spreading the word of God [ true doctrines of Christianity] , the Holy Spirit of God the true Inspirer of the true doctrine cannot and will not go into extinction, for He is an Eternal flame.
@@ZA90224 He?
Paul was quoted as if he were scripture by Polycarp who was taught by John. How can you claim that Paul was an enemy? Everything I see says that Paul was accepted.
He also says that James was the actual brother of the Lord, so, yeah, he doesn't know what he is talking about. SMH
@@frost-iHs The bible says that too...
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
Prophet Muhammad, prophesised in the Book of Deuteronomy:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):
Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18]
Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."
Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".
New Testament
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh
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SubhaanAllaah great answer.
Jzkl for clarifying to those ignorant ppl that say Muhammed SAW was a false prophet
Wana oodhubillaah
Having a mother and father are not the exclusive qualities of a prophet but of all humans. The important qualities of a prophet like Moses that was shared by Jesus is they both performed great miracles. Jesus and Moses also came as liberators of God's people, Israel, and establishing a covenant between them and their God. The Allah of the Quran is never referred to as YHWH, the God of Israel. Therefore Muhammed is NOT the prophet like Moses mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:18.
Don't speak about false prophets if your Muslim mohammed was a false prophet didn't exist
@@ss.fx3626 WORSHIP THE CREATOR ALLAH AND NOT HIS CREATION JESUS PBUH
@@AllaahuAkbarr For god so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son jesus christ to this world to die for our sins on the cross.Whoever believes in him shall not die but live an everlasting life(John 3:14)
One of the difficulties with this topic is the variety of meanings various people tend to attach to key words in the discussion.
Are Christians people who subscribe to “traditional” interpretations of the Bible? Or are Christians people who anticipate the arrival of the Messiah?
Many people assume that the words, “Hebrew”, “Israelite” and “Jew” are synonymous. More than once, for example, I’ve heard clergy say Moses was a Jew. Was he?
I’m not aware of any author - biblical or otherwise - using the word, “Jew”, during the lifetime of Moses or before that. The book of Esther includes the word, “Jew”, but the events described in the book of Esther occurred after the death of Solomon, after the division of the kingdom and after the Babylonian captivity.
After the death of Solomon, the two kingdoms of the divided kingdom were called Israel (the northern kingdom) - and Judah (the southern kingdom). Presumably the southern kingdom was called Judah because the majority of the citizens of the southern kingdom - which included Jerusalem - were of the tribe of Judah.
Theoretically, at least, descendents of the tribe of Judah could have been called, “Jews”, but the word seems to have generally (maybe always) been applied to citizens of the southern kingdom and to expatriates of the kingdom of Judah.
So no, Moses wasn’t a Jew - by either of those definitions. Moses was of the tribe of Levi, one of the other eleven sons of the patriarch, Israel (aka Jacob).
At first, both the adherents of traditional Judaism and citizens of the Roman Empire considered Christianity to be a sect of the Hebrews’ religion.
When I looked for a definition of “zealot” just now, the one that came closest to my understanding of its origins was this one: “The Zealots were a political movement in 1st-century Second Temple Judaism which sought to incite the people of Judea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from the Holy Land by force of arms, most notably during the First Jewish-Roman War.” - Wikipedia
Whether they were called zealots before the first century A.D. I’m not sure, but Hebrews who were violently opposed to the Roman occupation of Jerusalem had been a thorn in the side of the Roman Empire even before the first century A.D.
The sentiment of the Zealots was not shared by the majority of Hebrews - at least not publicly - until 66 A.D. but that year seems to have been the beginning of the period of time when the greatest numbers of Hebrews took up arms against the Romans and the time - ending in 70 A.D. when the greatest numbers of Hebrews were killed or deported from Judea by Roman military forces.
As the Hebrews became more aggressive toward the Romans, the Romans responded in kind. As a result, the hatred of each group toward the other rapidly increased, especially when news reached Rome that the “last stand” of the Hebrews in Jerusalem was when most of the remaining Hebrews retreated into the temple - which was so situated and so well constructed that their full defeat only occurred when the temple was destroyed.
The temple - as refurbished by Herod the Great (72 B.C. - 4 B.C.) - had been one of the seven wonders of the ancient world and, of course, the Romans blamed its loss on the obstinacy of the Hebrews, which further increased the Romans’ hatred of the Hebrews.
During the last few decades of the first century A.D. there were people in Rome who considered Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah foretold by the Hebrew prophets of antiquity. But they had a problem. Because most Romans could barely distinguish between Christianity and traditional Judaism and because the Romans hated the Hebrews, the Romans tended to hate - or at least be very suspicious of - people who professed faith in Jesus.
In order to minimize Roman animosity toward Christianity, some of the people who considered Jesus to be the Messiah were willing to dispense with the instructions in the Torah (aka Pentateuch) in favor of some of the religious practices of the Romans. Some of the Romans’ holidays were given Christian-sounding names.
Gradually, some of the people in Rome who considered Jesus to be the Messiah began to profess a similar hatred toward Hebrews as what the Romans had. To enhance this trend, the doctrine was adopted that all Hebrews - even those that weren’t born when Jesus was crucified - were guilty of deicide (killing God). That doctrine was taught in western Europe for more than a thousand years.
If I understand the way James D.G. Dunn is quoted in this video, he used the phrase, “heretical Jewish Christianity”.
For people in the twenty-first century who are seeking to model their beliefs and practices after the beliefs and practices of first-century Christians, which group is truly “heretical”? Would it be those Hebrews (or/and non-Hebrews) who did and do reject the adoption of the hybrid of the religion of Jesus with the animistic (aka pagan) religious beliefs and practices of the ancient Romans? Or would those people be considered “heretical” who, in the twenty-first century, are monotheistic but who retain many of the traditions and much of the philosophy of the Roman Empire of the first four centuries A.D.?
My understanding of history is different in some ways than the understanding of James Dunn. In some cases it may simply be that I describe history differently than he does. Overall, however, I agree that the beliefs and practices of the Christians of the first century - including non-Hebrews who believed Jesus to be the true Messiah - was much closer to that of non-Christian Hebrews than to the traditions that are widely considered “Christian” in the twenty-first century.
There is no record in the Gospels that Jesus disagreed with ALL of the traditions taught by the Sanhedrin while he was on Earth. He did, however, reject some of what is today called “the oral Torah”. Which raises this question: For Christians of the first century who were aware of the ways Jesus interpreted the Hebrew Bible differently than “the chief priests and scribes”, did that lead to a diligent comparison of other rabbinical interpretations with the actual text of the Hebrew Bible?
World needs more open minded people like you.
@Faiscal Siraj
Jesus never mentioned or went to the Kaaba.
Jesus never went to or mentioned a mosque.
Jesus never mentioned or went to Mecca.
Jesus never mentioned or participated in Islamic observances like Ramadan.
Jesus never mentioned a buraq.
Jesus never mentioned Muhammad.
Jesus never mentioned a Quran.
Jesus never mentioned or identified Himself as a Muslim.
Instead...
Jesus went to the Jewish Temple regularly.
Jesus went to Jewish synagogues regularly.
Jesus went to Jerusalem regularly.
Jesus observed and participated in Jewish holidays like Passover.
Jesus spoke about the Holy Ghost. (Muhammad was unholy and a wicked man.)
Jesus identified Himself as a Jew. (Read His conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well in the Gospel of John.)
Jesus had disciples, not slaves like Muhammad did.
Jesus gave life, not murder like Muhammad did.
Nope. Jesus was not a Muslim. 🙂
Jesus did NOT abolish the Law - He said He did not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them. He did not change the laws of clean vs unclean foods, the vision was about the attitude towards Gentiles (non-Jews) as unclean.
remember the sheet being lowered for Peter with the unclean animals?
Somebody mentioned the your videos are not long enough i disagree its easier to concentrate on your short videos...plus very good content
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Thanks.
Agree.
Stephen is a very early Christian (pre-Paul) who is apocalyptic in outlook (he knows Jesus by apocalyptic title Son of Man from Daniel) and he opposes centrality of Temple worship.
Agreed. Imbedded in Luke/Acts is the story of how Christianity escaped the mental straight-jacket of the Jewish-Christians ("The Way") living in Judea. While I agree with Dunn and this video that the ancient Jewish-Christians were almost indistinguishable from their fellow Jews, Luke did not believe this was the true teleos of "The Way" and that it was Jesus himself directing the moves that led it to become an international religion.
Ma sha'Allah. What an underrated channel!
Test Mohammad, if you believe in him.
Acts 15:6-11, 'The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles (those without the covenant of the law) might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us (who were under the law, through Moses) and them (who were not), for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke (the law given through Moses) that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? NO! WE BELIEVE IT IS THROUGH GRACE WE ARE SAVED THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, JUST AS THEY ARE.'
Matt 5:17-18, 'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.' When did Jesus accomplish everything? The old covenant law was still in place for the Jews and Israel while Jesus was still alive. However, at the crucifiction, the Lamb of God brought a new covenant, ratified by his shed blood, saying, 'It is accomplished' and he sat down at the right hand of God.
How is God's righteous law written in the hearts ? Through faith the Holy Spirit coming to reside in the hearts of all who believe. Being obedient to the Holy Spirit who is to lead into all truth. Matthew 5:8, 'God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.' Peter said, God gave the Gentiles his Holy Spirit because they believed.
Very interesting, I am pumped to watch this lesson.
What does the Bible say about Jewish believers observing the Torah as they live by faith in Christ? Have you read Romans 14? Are you familiar with Galatians 3, Acts 15, and Ephesians 2? Through Christ we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. Paul rightly rebuked and castigated the Judaizers--the Jewish believers who proclaimed Christ, yet were trying to make Gentiles follow the Torah.
Acts 21:21-24=Jewish believers. Acts 21:25 gentile Believers, shalom.
I don't understand when I hear some Christians call prophet Muhammad a false prophet, but at the same time they see Paul as a true prophet and hero.
Omer Yousif - bro the teachings these people follow are the deviant teachings of Paul. The pagan who never met Jesus but made Jesus into God in the form of man.
Modern day Christianity is basically 100% Paulinity.
This Paul changed the teachings of Jesus Christ !
He was a false Apostel /Prophet - he is the real founder of Christianity
( Paulinismus ) !
They believe in 3 Gods !!!
Trinity
God - God the father
Jesus Christ- Son of God
Holy Spirit - ( Angel Gabriel 😂)
All three personalities are They’re 3-1 Gods, in the same time !
Christianity isn’t monotheistic ❗️
Only Islam is the real and 1 accepted religion for all Mankind from God !
They follow desires and not the intellect.
Basiclly it's like MLM scamming where the reward are good to be true ...just believe then your salvation are guaranteed, bring new convert then you get a reward bonus
It is easy to see why Muhammad was a false prophet:
👉 Muhammad had sexual relations with his own daughter-in-law (Surah 33:37; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 516 - 518) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 18:15; 20:12).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of children (Muslim: Bk. 19, No. 4457; Ishaq 819) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:13).
👉 Muhammad condoned the raping of women (Surah 4:24; 70:29-30; Muslim: Bk. 8, No. 3371, 3432, 3433; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 77, No. 600; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 93, No. 506) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:25-27).
👉 Muhammad beat his own wife and condoned spousal abuse (Surah 4:34; Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 2127; Muslim: Bk. 9, No. 3506; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 72, No. 715; Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 73, No. 68) in violation of Christ's teachings (Ephesians 5:28, 33; Colossians 3:19; 1 Peter 3:7).
👉 Muhammad condoned the murder of non-Muslims (Surah 4:89; 8:12; 9:5; Bukhari: Vol. 6, Bk. 61, No. 577; Bukhari: Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57 & 58) in violation of the Torah (Genesis 9:6; Exodus 21:12; Leviticus 24:17).
👉 Muhammad broke his own vows, oaths, and/or promises (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 78, No. 618 & 619; Muslim: Bk. 15, No. 4044) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 30:2; Deuteronomy 23:21; cf. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5).
👉 Muhammad condoned lying (Ishaq 365 & 519; cf. Muslim: Bk. 4, No. 12:18; Bukhari: Vol. 1, Bk. 12, No. 795) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 19:11).
👉 Muhammad laid with a dead woman in her grave (Kanz al-Ummal 370606 & 37067) in violation of the Torah (Numbers 19:16).
👉 Muhammad committed idolatry by erecting a black stone, groping it, and kissing it (Bukhari: Vol. 2, Bk. 26, No. 667, 673, 675, 679, 680; Muslim: Bk. 7, No. 2806, 2895, 2916) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 16:22; Leviticus 26:1).
👉 Muhammad changed, abrogated or added to the scriptures (Surah 2:106; 16:101; 17:86) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32; cf. Psalm 30:6).
👉 Muhammad coveted possessions (Surah 48:19) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 20:17).
👉 Muhammad hated non-Muslims (Surah 3:118; 5:51,64; 8:39; 9:29; 60:1-3) in violation of the Torah (Exodus 22:21; Leviticus 19:18,33).
👉 Muhammad gave camel meat to eat (Surah 22:36) and camel urine to drink (Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 71, No. 590) in violation of the Torah (Leviticus 11:4; Deuteronomy 14:7).
👉 Muhammad put on women's garments (Bukhari 2393, 2442, 3941; Muslim 4472, 5984) in violation of the Torah (Deuteronomy 22:5).
This describes Islam: 👇
¹³ Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: ¹⁴ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: ¹⁵ Their feet are swift to shed blood: ¹⁶ Destruction and misery are in their ways: ¹⁷ And the way of peace have they not known: (Romans 3:13-17)
"There is no peace," saith my God, "to the wicked." (Isaiah 57:21)
Correction: The first Christians were not just Jews.
In Galatians 2:9, after the Jerusalem Council, Peter, James, and John went to the circumcision (Jewish believers) with a specific mission. They gave Paul and Barnabas “the right hand of fellowship,” acknowledging the grace given to Paul for his apostleship to the Gentiles (non-Jews). In essence, they recognized Paul’s commission to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, while they continued to focus on ministering to Jewish believers.
Finally been looking for this info for a hot minute. Thanks sir
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
See ehhh... If u want to access religion especially the monotheistic ones remove the concept of God and compare because the idea that ur God is the right one or powerful because he's one and can't share his power with anybody so in that light he's the one true God can't always be true... christians see their God to be powerful as well in a different way, firstly they think that their God is specializes in doing unusual ( incomprehensible totally different, mind-blowing irrational)things. They see him different from this creation and actively involves with them, they see him as God who can do anything, They see him as God who is intentional about them and his incomprehensibility is what makes him powerful en different and unique... Telling ur self that God maths is not our maths, his ways ar totally different from our and his knowledge is different from ours etc many other reasons oo...so for me, I'm deism and i feel like people are doing too much in comparing ur Gods because whether God is absolutely one or three in one, is only a book that u think or being program to believe tells u to believe...can u ever fact check that!!! If he says he's who he is thats what u will conform to...etc
My dear friend there’s massive big confusion between Israelite as a nation and the Jews as religious communities
In the time of Moses Aron David Salomon there were no Jews
However Jesus was sent to the Israelite and part of the Israelite followed Jesus and become what we call now Christian
and on other group followed the Rabbis authorities who now called Jews
I heard somewhere that Quran general term before coming of Jesus was Bani Israil. After coming of Jesus then Quran use 2 terms for Bani Israil ( Nasara and Jew).
@@andanandan6061 Islam and the Quran came after Jesus
Could you have possibly prefaced Jimmy Dunn as a liberal scholar in your introduction? As such one might then easily understand his dislike for St. Paul.
Dr Jimmy Dunn was a firm believer in the Trinity.
@@BloggingTheology Thank you for your reply
Have you thought about streaming live and sharing your knowledge with Christians?
nope
Please tell me you have a video tour of your library.
It never ceases to amaze me how unbelievers have to twist themselves in knots to make Paul the heretic so they don't have to believe.
Paul was a heretic
Unbeliever is such a meaningless term. I'm sure there's plenty you don't believe. Use of such shorthand implies you are passing on what others have told you without pausing to make sense of it.
That’s very funny
The Orthodox Church in its final Catholic form is the product and inheritor of the teachings of Paul, Paul won. In what sense could Paul be considered a “heretic”? And by whom?
@@peterhetherington914 a heretic when compared to Peter and James who, by Paul's own admission, started the faith, and presumably by Jesus, who Peter and James knew intimately.
1:49 What about Luke 16:16? “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.”
Great video again, Paul! You are easily one of the best speakers out there!
Quick question; can a Jew, Christian or any other person practicing a monotheistic religion, be a Muslim by definition - if they believe in one God, Allah and believe that Muhammad (pbuh) is His prophet and messenger - but still also carry on practicing their own monotheistic religions?
For example, did any Jews or Christians during Prophet Muhammad’s (pbuh) time, accept Islam but still also practice their own monotheistic religions? Many thanks.
If you believe that Mohammed PBUH is the prophet and messenger of God then you must also believe that The Quran is the Book of Revelations sent by God through him without any errors. Once you believe these two aspects then you are a Muslim. Because the Quran tells you to believe in the unity of God, His angels and His prophets/messengers like Adam, Noah, Lut, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, John, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, peace be upon them all.
Nooruddin Kazim I agree with you brother, surely there were are are many Jews and Christians who believe this.
@@truthseeker9945Once you believe that Mohammed is the messenger of Allah and Jesus is also the messenger of Allah then you're a Muslim. Once you are a Muslim then you follow the Quran and the actions and sayings of Prophet Mohammed PBUH because in the Quran its mentioned that you follow your prophet Mohammed. There are some teachings in Jews and Christians which clash with teachings in Islam like we Muslims believe Jesus PBUH to be a mighty messenger of Allah, that he was born of a virgin mother Mary; that he was a messiah, that he was not killed nor crucified and he ascended to Allah and that he will come back again. Also there are other tenets of faith like prayers, feasting, zakat (fasting), etc. But these are minor things which you can adept later on. Once you reconcile these things then you are a Muslim. You don't need to be a Jew or Christian because Quran is the complete book of Allah in the original language Arabic and its been preserved for ever. Of course we believe that Allah sent other scriptures like Psalms of David, the Torah and Gospel but we believe that they are corrupted.
Muslim means one who submits to the will of the Creator; not a member of the religion announced by the last Messenger, for the Quran would not call earlier patriarchs and messengers as muslims otherwise. Non-muslim "proselytizers" exploit this non-English word to their advantage makin use of others' ignorance of the meaning of the word. So, who is not a muslim from a dialectical perspective? I think the verses starting from the 4th all the way to the last verse of Alaq clearly define who is not a muslim. They are worth reading again and again and pondering about the idea they convey. It is also very interesting from a chronological perspective since Alaq is the first to be revealed to the last Messenger.
The core of Christian belief is the gospel, the "good news " that, in the sufficient, substitutionary, vicarious and free self sacrifice of Christ, the creative, sustaining and redeeming Son and word of God who, as the reality of God, can forgive sin in his divine nature, and has done so , once for all effective through faith. No orthodox Jew or Christian could accept Mohammed as the Messiah, or the Quran as the word of God. As a Christian. I hold with full assurance that I am saved by faith in the God/man Christ Jesus or that I.sm called to do the will of God as the only appropriate RESPONSE to God's grace. This is the final fulfillment of God:s covenant - the promise of God to take a people to.be his own and to be their God. I cannot accept any teaching that denies the divinity of Christ and his saving initiative. Consequently, no Jew or Christian could ever be a Muslim. This does not mean that I have any lack of respect for the sincerely held beliefs of Islam or those who accept them. However those beliefs are incompatible with the teachings of Judaism and Christianity - which are much more closely related than most realise. I ask you to respect my beliefs, as I do yours.
His video just cut at the end. Does anyone know the title of the full length?
The book of Acts indeed states clearly that at first, the Christians held on to many of their Jewish rites. Then, God revealed to Peter that no food was unclean. Paul had to remind him if that later on. By the end of Acts, the Christians who authored the NT texts no longer held the Jewish rites as necessary. Luke recorded all of this himself in Acts. He also wrote that Paul was considered by the disciples to be a true apostle, just as they were. It's all in that one book.
then why did orthodox byzantine church ban swine flesh and wine? wine was to be used in baptism cermonies only. your latin translation is a lie and propaganda
Yes, it’s an entertaining novel.
The video ended abruptly. Is there a second part?
He (Jesus) answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
However that verse is out of context. Matt 15 read verse 21 to 28 for the entire encounter with the Cannanite woman. The not cast children of Israel's bread before dogs lesson.
He states he will not help her, as she is unworthy. Her faith remains steadfast. He heals her daughter proclaiming her strong faith.
This lesson is not unlike Abraham and Isaac on the demonstration of faith by The Father telling Abraham something to shake his faith.
In the gospels there is also the redemption of the Woman at the Well in the context of Judeans rejecting Samaritans.
The faith of the Centurion displayed as greater than the Judeans about him.
The "I am the Good Shepard" sermon stating the flock contains others, not here.
The problem with single verse quoting is that the verse can be stated alone to imply something that is not the point of the story....such as G-d telling Abraham to butcher his son does not mean that Abrahamic Hebrews were child sacrificers. However if that sentence is all you were given, one would naturally draw that conclusion.
John 1 11-12
“What did they believe?” The video cut off at the end! Can you please clarify?
I'm going to get that book. Ironically, I think it might explain some things I'm seeing in Eastern Orthodoxy, and why part of the Ancient Church Fathers, even if not the Ebionite extreme, might have pushed Paul to the wayside. It's just rather strange how absent Pauline doctrine is in early Christianity, as if it didn't even exist, although we know Paul's works were considered authentic even before the canon was completely established. Some of Paul's statements about justification and a more juridical concept of salvation are so clear in his writings, yet you really find little of this in Eastern Orthodoxy, which seems to have more of a Jewish ontological metaphor for salvation. I now wonder how much of Paul was in the earliest lectionaries.
The Early followers and disciples of the Messiah, including Paul (Shaul) were called followers of THE WAY, a Sect called Natzarim (Nazarenes, נוצרים).
They were not Ebionites, Ebionites were a different group.
Paul (Shaul) did not teach the Torah was done away. Hellenized "Christians" have twisted Paul's letters into lawlessness just as Peter warned would happen;
2 Peter 3:15 "and reckon the patience of our ADON as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha’ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him,"
16 "as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures."
3:17 "You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawlessness. "
Paul was teaching that we are saved by FAITH but that we don't do away with the Torah because of FAITH, We ESTABLISH THE TORAH.
Romans 3:31 "Do we then nullify the Torah through the Faith? Let it not be! On the contrary, WE ESTABLISH THE TORAH."
Romans 8:4 "so that the righteousness of the Torah should be completed in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."
Romans 13:8 "Owe no one any matter except to love one another, for he who loves another has filled the Torah."
13:10 :"Love does no evil to a neighbour. Therefore, love is completion of the Torah."
Paul says the Fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, and that LOVE is the fulfilling of the TORAH.
But Hellenized Yahudim (Jews) and Greeks did not understand Paul because they were unlearned in the Torah.
Paul was explaining His message against the teachings of Yahudim (Jews) saying your saved only by keeping Torah. Yet they never showed LOVE for other, only themselves. Which the Messiah explains in the 4 Gospels. Paul is explaining that we are saved by FAITH, not of works. The thing is Hellenized Greeks and Jews belief (faith) is not an action word like in Hebrew. Faith in Hebrew is to believe and obey. So true FAITH will produce works of obedience.
@@soilnatureherbanfarmer7562really interesting commentary, cheers
"The Gospel of the Holy Twelve " is worth to read for understanding the belief of the Jewish Christians in the first centuary in Jerusalem. The Gospel is available in internet.
Very informative video. Thanks for making it!
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
Yes, the Apostles were the first Christians, who did happen to be Jewish, then the gentiles with Paul's teachings. Then the ratio of jewish to gentile belivers completely flipped with gentiles being the dominating majority and it's been like that ever since.
Yes and the so-called church for the last 2000 years, including its daughters, continues to misrepresent the original Christianity and Jesus’ example.
So, if the Ebionites believed that Christ was not born of a virgin and the Muslims believe the opposite, who should I believe then?
Why should you believe the ebionites?
Jesus had a real mother and father: a normal conception and birth.
@@geoattoronto can you prove it?
Great.
Very interesting. I have "Early christianities" by Ehrman.
But did the Ebionites believe in the virgin birth?
Some did - some didn’t
@@BloggingTheology
Maybe their writings did not survive. Or their doctrine was described by their enemies?
@seek mogol you sound like a proper ignoramus. It's Al-Ilah, not Al lah. You tit!
@Lightning raden Lightning raden that's a parrot troll bot, just ignore his ignorant a**
@seek mogol
When I was 5 Years I believe God can are all what he will. But then I read the Old Testament and New Testament.
In the Old Testament God give a promise that nobody will seen him before they died. And the Old Testament says that nobody must make image of God !
All the Real Prophets of God haven’t seen God. Moses spoke to God with the burning Bush between them.
He ( Moses ) don’t saw God ! 👀😉
To protect Moses-he have died !!!
New Testament, says Jesus Christ that the One Real God is in heaven.
He never claimed I’m God and worship me.
I believe in God and I believe in a Prophet Jesus Christ, without Divinity of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ prayed with his forehead in the ground ( like the Muslims ).
Christianity know this only from Yoga or gymnastic.
That he wouldn’t die !!!
To God Almighty.
Must a God prayed in this art to God or a Prophet of God !???
Can a God died !??? 😂
When your One God died, where resurrected ( Jesus Christ ) according to you from death ?
Was this Satan or the Pope !?
Where hold the Universum and the World alive - in the 3 Nights and 2 Days - when your One God was Death ❗️❓👀😂😂😂❓
Christianity Doktrin
Jesus Christ must as a God died to pay with his 🔥Suizid 🔥
on the Cross the Price for the Origin Sin, for the Christians.
Suizid- Hellfire forever.
How many Gods needs the Christianity to become the One God of Abraham !?
Christianity with a Divine Jesus Christ make not sense ( logically ) !
Why ?
God give his promise that he are One !!!
He have not a Women or a Son.
And is against he Majestic Nature to lie or contradict His Promise.
This is that. He haven’t a beginning or a Ending.
This meant : He can’t died ❗️
Jesus Christ have a beginning and a Ending ❗️
He was born ( and will died ).
The best part is Jesus Christ self, prayed to his God - Christianity prays to Jesus Christ !!!
Conclusion:
Jesus Christ God is not the God of Christianity, they pray to Jesus Christ as a God !
3 Fingers aren’t never 1 finger-like your father are not your mother.
All Jews know this history very well.
Christianity adopted Paganism and became more Pagan than Jewish ultimately.
The concepts of human sacrifice, resurrection, dualism, Satan, holidays, transmutation, virgin birth, a man being God himself. All these were Pagan beliefs.
The best example that I can think in terms of Judaism today is one that is potentially divisive among Jews, so I try to be careful with it. That example is that of a Jewish Chassidic group called Chabad, that claimed that their Rebbe (Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, of blessed memory) at the time was the Messiah. This view did not disappear when he passed a few years later (1994), and they have their own arguments to support their claim.
While most Orthodox Jews have great reverence for the Rebbe, aside from segments of Chabad, they do not see him as the Messiah. While Chabad is sort of a stand-alone group within Orthodoxy their relationship with the rest of Orthodoxy is generally okay, and their writings are rather popular among non-Chabad Jews, while some leaders have publicly voiced concern/opposition over their Messianic stances.
Interesting
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.@@BloggingTheology
Hmmm... the video stopped in mid-sentence. Excellent presentation of the information, and just a FYI, I just ordered the referenced book, and I am looking forward to reading it.
This means Jesus peace be upon him has the same message as Noah, Ibrahim, Moses and Muhammed peace be upon all of them.
You mean Yeushua*, Noah, Avraham and Moshe*.
@@Hg-1-13 I don't mean what you mean....
@@Hg-1-13 no bc we dont believe jesus name was savior
@@Hg-1-13 different name, same prophets ✌
@@robindesbois1551 Yes, you do mean what I mean.
Christians would simply call this heresy. I'm always amazed at how off-the-wall non-Christians get about scripture and historical Christianity. It's one of the things that dispel those occasional doubts that crop up. Of course, as a Muslim, you take every chance to negatively criticize Christ.
Again evidentially proving the Quran is right in Its assertion of the Jews n Christians!
The guy has no clue that there are two covenants:
(1) The Old Covenant spoken by Moses, and
(2) The New Covenant spoken by Jesus.
The Old Testament long foretold that God would establish a New Covenant:
Jeremiah 31:31-34
³¹ “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- ³² not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them,” saith the Lord. ³³ “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,” saith the Lord, “I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be My people. ³⁴ And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord.’ For they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,” saith the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
The New Testament expounds on Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Luke 22:20
Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.”
Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, He saith, “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-
Hebrews 8:13
In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 12:24
and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
The guy also fails to mention that Jesus Himself predicted the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the exile of the Jews into foreign lands before the return of Christ:
Luke 21:24
²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
If there was no contention between the Pharisees of Judaism and the early disciples of Jesus Christ, why then was there so much persecution against the early disciples of Christ?
The guy is also wrong to claim that the apostles viewed James (the half brother of Jesus) as their head. The apostles claimed CHRIST was their head (the head of the church) and that the church was His body (the believers). See Ephesians 1:22-23; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:10,19; 1 Corinthians 11:3.
And Peter called Paul "our beloved brother" and not "my enemy" anywhere in the New Testament:
2 Peter 3:15-16
¹⁵ And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given unto him, hath written unto you, ¹⁶ as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things. Therein are some things hard to understand, which those who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Jesus was not "adopted" but always maintained His divinity even from conception:
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee. Therefore also that Holy Being who shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
Luke 2:10-11
¹⁰ And the angel said unto them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ¹¹ For unto you is born this day in the City of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”
This is significant in that the angel Gabriel and the other holy angels called Jesus "holy" and "the Son of God" and "Savior" and "Christ" and "the Lord."
Why is this significant? Because the Old Testament says God alone is the Lord and Savior:
Isaiah 43:10-11
¹⁰ “Ye are My witnesses,” saith the Lord, “and My servant whom I have chosen, that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.¹¹ I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.”
There are two natures in Christ:
Divine and human.
Jesus called Himself God (Revelation 21:6-7).
Jesus called Himself the Almighty (Revelation 1:8).
God calls Jesus God (Hebrews 1:8).
All of heaven's angels worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6).
Jesus is God.
Always has been.
Still is.
Always will be.
The old guy in the video says repeatedly "probably" and "apparently" which shows he is guessing and has no idea what he is talking about. 🙂
@@iw21012 this is wat I mean when u loyally want to hold onto Holy Scriptures even though there has been corruption! Your argument is valid but in reality God "the father" is the only God n Jesus is a prophet n messenger He sent to the Jews to bring them back to the law of Moses! All verses pertaining to Jesus as God or Divine r misrepresented !
The Quran is in error due to Muhammed's ignorance of the Bible and the religious beliefs of Christians and Jews.
@@JonathanDeLeon-em4px Rationally to reject a corrupted book is valid!
@@abdulazizmanaf2015 The Quran should indeed be rejected by rational people. It is a book with corrupt information due to Muhammed's ignorance of the Bible, history and science.
Jesus said: “ If you have seen me you have seen the Father”, and “I and the Father are One.” Clearly, Jesus proclaimed himself to be God incarnate. He was not confused about His identity. If some of His followers were, that doesn’t alter the truth, it just makes them ignorant of it. As history would prove, that got straightened out.
6:20. I assume you mean trinity is absent aswell.
Are the beliefs and practices of modern-day Messianic Jews identical with those of the original Jewish Christians? I expect not but what are some differences?
Great question. The Messianic Jews like to portray themselves as identical with the original Jewish Christians but are far from it. For the most part they share the beliefs and outlook of modern day American Protestant evangelicals with an external overlay of Jewish rituals and customs.Their essence is neither Jewish nor like the early Christians. They emphasize all the Protestant theology such as sola Scriptura. Jews of all periods have not taken such a literal and fundamental reading of scriptures. The Messianics constantly downgrade and belittle the works of man but outwardly practice non-biblical Jewish customs which did not exist in the times of the Holy Temple.
If you ever watch a Messianic prayer service, it usually has music and dance which is something newly imagined. It is not like that of Orthodox Jews today nor like anything from the Biblical period. I wish some Messianic would explain where they get dancing around with flags as a Jewish way to pray. Most American Messianics know little Hebrew and their knowledge of Judaism is minimal ( even those who have well known TV or internet programs).
i've read all these texts decades ago
at that time i was probably an ebionite catholic planning to join the carmelites order
i forgot whether the ebionite gospel had any mention about the antinomian wine & blood drinking ritual which suspiciously might have been assimilated (by paul?) from the greco-roman dionysian ritual along with their firstborn baby sacrifice ritual
Christians sacrificing babies
How novel is ur accusation, nothing first century AD about that at all
The law was not given to the gentiles by Moses but to the Jews. But the law competed ended in 70 ad when the temple been destructed.
Great video brother! Once again you spoke nothing but truth..... And the Qur'an confirms this as well, when it speaks of the jews, it simply says Jews. But when it speaks of Christians, Allah says the Nasara (those who call themselves Christians) which shows that's a title they gave themselves! Mashallah! Alhumdillah!
God has asked me to expose lies/deceptions. Paul whether by quote or otherwise did not speak the truth. If you read the scripture in context you will understand why this comment has been made to you. I am Christian. And yes we weren't always called Christians. We were first just called believers and then at Antioch Christians(english equivalent) Acts 11:26. Archaeology is not subjective Steven Chaffin. History written by modern historians however might at times be. I hate reading things that go against my narrative personally but truth is truth. Some of the early christians did have beliefs diametrically opposed to what our beliefs are today. But the leaders of the Church had the same beliefs we have today Steven Chaffin. The leaders who were the apostles were the ones to teach new converts the way, Jesus is mentioned as stating as much at Matthew 28:16-20. Remember any child must be taught first. The child of himself does not know the way initially. Left to oneself we default to what we knew before and think is true even though our newly accepted beliefs ultimately require change to a new default.
I am certain that the comment you made is false in part wrt the video. Forgive my abruptness!
@@teachmetheway7081 I don't see your comment as abrupt! You believe what you believe and that's understandable. But I only can speak from what the Qur'an says which is no doubt from Allah! It is fact that Jesus(pbuh) didn't bring a new religion nor named his teachings Christianity, nor did he ever say worship me, nor did he say he was God. I know due to your belief, I was a Christian before, but in the end it makes no sense at all, there will always be a hole of depression in your life. Christians don't know how to pray, most don't follow the teachings of Jesus(pbuh), most eat pork, are not circumcised, only worship one day out of the week, changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week. Take America for an example Christian country... Aborts millions of children every year, highest crime rate in the world, highest divorce rate, basically a country full of single mothers, men have been feminized. This is due to lack of fear for Allah, and disbelief in your scripture! If people think Jesus(pbuh) died for there sins, you get choas! I know you've heard Christians say there saved, as if there work on earth is completed and it's a guarantee that their going to heaven. Why would someone thinking this not do as thou wilt? Christians drink the blood of christ and eats his flesh during the first Sunday of the month, and you don't see anything wrong with that? That's sounds satanic! And the fact is Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic hebrew, and even today Aramaic Christians call the only God worthy of worship Allahu. They even pray similar to Jews and Muslims. I only want you to see the truth, and its only from Allah, not Paul! Alhamdulillah
@@stevenchaffin3376 I don't see your comment as abrupt! - Great
You believe what you believe and that's understandable. -Thanks
But I only can speak from what the Qur'an says (Agreed) which is no doubt from Allah (True)!
It is fact that Jesus(pbuh) didn't bring a new religion (True)
nor named his teachings Christianity (True),
nor did he ever say worship me(Basically TRUE),
nor did he say he was God.(technically very TRUE)
I know due to your belief, I was a Christian before, but in the end it makes no sense at all( true and false at same time you can say), there will always be a hole of depression in your life(TRUE).
Christians don't know how to pray(True),
most don't follow the teachings of Jesus(pbuh)(True. they follow as they have been led generally),
most eat pork(Nah, not sure bout that one),
are not circumcised(Not sure bout that one either and don’t intend to investigate either),
only worship one day out of the week(NAH WRONG WRONG WRONG),
changed the Sabbath to the first day of the week.(NAH NOT TRUE WHATSOEVER)
Some of my above responses are subject to change but i am surprised (and not being facetious) at your general level of correctness on most of the points granted you were a Christian. I am breaking this response into two parts for better organization and management of my response to you.
@Faisal Siraj Thanks for the response Faisal. I will respond hopefully within 48 hours or less. Need to rest a bit. Do feel free to add to your comment here. i am interested to see your development of certain points.
@@teachmetheway7081 you are lost Christian I mean you are Paula
Only the twelve Apostles received the "Clothing" of the holy Spirit in Acts 2. Jesus had told them to remain in Jerusalem before he was taken up into Heaven so they could receive the clothing of power.
Lk 24:49 (BSB) And behold, I am sending the promise of My Father upon you. But remain in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”
Only the Apostles and Cornelius household received this version of the Holy spirit, the rest of the Jews in Acts 2 received the indwelling of holy Spirit after baptism.
Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
I believe .. this book is interesting
Keep going Mr Williams ... I gain many benefits from your videos
Thanks ... May Allah bless you and guide all of us to straighting path
Islam came around 600 years after the resurection of YAHUSHA (JESUS).
have YAHUSHA as the only begotten son of The living God and accept HIM as saviour and obey the laws and commandments of God.
something is not right, if the first Christians were not evangelising the non Jews then why Acts 15? If Jesus didn't fulfill the teaching in terms of purity then why Matthew 15,10-20?
You know it when the truth is spoken.
Issa (as) came to enforce the law that was given to Musa(as)to the children of Israel
Can we say the major change in crectianty happen within early Cristian Jew community without influence from Roman Empire and Roman Empire just take the changes from one group and enforced it with eleminating the rest of early Cristian groups.
How does the writings of Polycarp who was discipled by John and quotes Paul’s letter to the Ephesians fit this theory that only Paul believed in the deity of Jesus?
What about Messianic prophecy in Isaiah about the titles of wonderful counselor and God that He will have?
Interesting info. The info itself matches exactly what I have found in early Christianity, however, my conclusions are distinctly different. I’d call it a tale of two churches, one stuck in a wannabe Levitical hierarchy under the influence and leadership of James and the other church that was growing into the Melchizedek priesthood that Christ taught his disciples but they were too stuck in Pharisaical Judaism to see clearly.
The results speak for themselves. The Jerusalem church played church and became irrelevant to the community and world at large, the Pauline church turned the world upside down.
You got that out of studying the first century church, Jerusalem church played church? You need to keep studying
@@ggductor1511 any particular documents I should be studying? I’m assuming you’re referring to something besides the New Testament, that sheds more light on the Jerusalem church.
If James was the head of the church, why is it that the church he was head of did not become the predominant church in which the true doctrines of Christianity came to be known? It makes no sense that Christ would allow the congregation holding the truth about Him, to fall into extinction.
@@josephseneca4090 My perspective is that James was the head of the church at Jerusalem. I see this as distinctly different than being the head of the church ie all Christianity.
As to why it fell into anonymity, my guess is because James was trying to be seeker friendly with the Jews, or trying to merge Pharisaical Judaism with Christianity, something that is actually antithetical to the church Jesus established. This is why Paul was so adamant that his primary concern was if they preached Christ crucified. Crucifixion was an idea that demanded a Jew to go against all of their cultural values and follow Christ even if it cost them their tie to Judaism. This was something that James does not appear to be able to understand, and something that Paul embraced. I believe that history recorded which theology Christ blessed.
Then how does the persecution of Jewish Christians by Paul fit into this?
this was very informative
Interesting, but unconvincing to me.
One thing (I've noticed) missing from the theories of critical historical scholars (to which I've been exposed) is a careful consideration of the work of the Holy Spirit through the miraculous gifts of knowledge, tongues, healing and prophecy, etc. bestowed on early Christians by the hands of the Apostles, which, to me, if considered carefully, would greatly undermine the many creative theories proposed by them.
There seems to be way more unity in the first century churches, due to the leading of the Holy Spirit, than diversity.
As the miraculous gifts began to decrease following the deaths of the Apostles, then we start witnessing more diversity in doctrine which kept the early "church fathers" quite busy refuting, and, at the same time creating new, uninspired doctrines which, compared to the New Testament teachings (aggregated), appear quite "unorthodox."
Very informative videos, thankyou for that. Can you make a video or tell us some tips how the read more books. How to schedule to read. And just get most out of a book when reading. In short reading tips ahah.
Yes, please is very important. Video on importance of reading for adults, young people and children
Jesus also literally says that John the Baptist is Elijah reborn. So take "no reincarnation" as you will...
I’ve been wondering how Jewish Christians practiced their faith for three years. Thank you for answering this for me. I think that persecution and Paul preaching to gentiles slowly changed it and spread Christianity around the world.
there was no such thing, Christianity was founded by Greeks and Greek speaking Romans in the Roman Empire as an anti-Jewish movement
@@rochesterjohnny7555 😆😂
@@rochesterjohnny7555 didn't work very good did it?
@@rochesterjohnny7555 Not according to the Bible.
Dear, Prof Paul. I think it is better when you explain about verse of Paul/Jhon, please recite it in original language (Aramaic/Hebrew), as if you recite the verse of Quran in Arabic, then explaining its meaning and interpretation. 👍💪
Thanks, this is very interesting.
Oh, it cut off right at the statement of the point.
Is there a Part 2?