You'll be surprised to hear that on one of the very few occasions that I did drop a watch, it happened to be a Tissot Gold dress watch with Hesalite glass. The glass cracked instantly, a small piece of it flying off into the distance. So much for impact resistance of Hesalite.
I do like the Junkers very much. The price is pushing it a little, still I vote Cool! The Pagani is a beautiful watch at an attractive price, with a very good movement, I vote ice cold! See you in the next one!
I have an Iron Annie watch, with an ETA G10.212 quartz chronograph movement. Great watch, looks beautiful. It fills that Junghans chronograph sized gap.
Hesolit is great because you can polish it in few minutes with poliwatch and similar stuff. It is like lether shooes. It looks great if you take care of it. Junhans uses hesolite too with max bill. I have cronograph with Ronda quartz 6 jeweles version
Just subbed to this channel and so far your vids have been really good. I've been looking for an affordable, minimalist champange dial watch and this one is great.
Just ordered an Iron Annie 5056 with Swiss Automatic Movement. Looks almost exactly as the Junghans Max Bill but at half the price. A comparison between those two would be great.
Hi Ben. Great review, as always. However, you missed some details here. Junkers is no longer (since 2019) produced by Pointtec: their 20 year license to use the Junkers brand expired and the Junkers family decided to do it by themselves (getting the "full enchilada" instead of receiving just royalties from Pointtec...). This is why the brand Iron Annie was born: Pointtec is using it now (not just in "certain countries", as you mentioned) as an alternative to Junkers. BTW, they also created a new brand, Bauhaus. These two will encompass all the models that used to be under the Junkers brand made by Pointtec. Also worth mention is the fact that the "new" Junkers are of very poor quality when compared with the ones manufactured by Pointtec. Maybe they will improve with time but, right now, the quality is clearly not at the same level as the Pointtec watches.
The change of direction came about after the parent company Pointtec decided not to renew the Junkers license after a sharp increase in royalty fees was asked for by the brand’s family for the use of its name. (c) www.watchpro.com/junkers-name-retired-in-favour-of-iron-annie-by-german-watchmaker-pointtec/
I really like the styling of it although i'm Not the guy for minimalist watches. But to be honest, i wouldn't want a movement like this in a 200 pound watch. I have a Zeppelin 100 years chorogaph with a Ronda movement inside . It was slightly more expensive but offers way better value for money
"slightly more expensive"? The automatic ones cost two and a half times what this clock cost! And at 500€ there are many better alternatives. It's certainly not good value for money. This is the problem with the Junkers Bauhaus, it's too expensive for the quartz and not competitive with the automatic.
what he means is that miyota quartz movements are usually quite cheap, at about 5 pounds on average. They are not bad per se, they are quite reliable and accurate, as all quartz movements are, yet seeing such a movement in a 200 pound watch is what's underwhelming.
@@jonwlo such is the world of watches. It's not so much about the movement, really, but about the whole watch. Surely some 316L stainless steel, a piece of acrylic glass and a 5£ Miyota, all on a genuine leather strap can't be worth 200 pounds, even with such nice design. There is far better value to be found elsewhere.
@@danilakisliak8954 "They are not bad per se, they are quite reliable and accurate". But still, in if the Miyotas are reliable and accurate how would the watch be improved by a more expensive movement?
@@seybertooth9282 the watch could be improved by lowering its price. With the movement being as it is, the watch really doesn't have much going for it on a material level to justify the price.
Hi there what's the exact model name? I love the sunburst dial but none of the models on their website have this copper sunburst effect. Is this discontinued or am I missing something? Thanks!
The Junker 87 sure sounded intresting when they were dive bombing with the wing propeller mounted for the singular reason of making the ones getting bombed shit themselves. Some times those were, hehe
Hiya and interesting. My dad had his dress watches which were on leather straps and very slim. My take these days is that bracelets and " sportier" cases tend to have replaced those days? My "best " watch is daftly enough a quartz sekonda! Looks a lot more than the £25.00 it cost and the bracelet is fine.The blue dial has had compliments even ? You don't need to spend £200 for a well put together piece that at 39 mm looks pretty classy? Cheers.
I used to have the Junkers Bauhaus with power reserve. Beautiful watch, but the hesalite crystal chipped and that was that. Non-sapphire has since been no-go for me, especially with domed crystal.
@@arbestcrontisb4248 It's 40,5 mm. Definitely not "too big", even though it's still large for a dress watch. But the Marlin? Come on, it's just so plain! A gold Bambino SS looks much more luxurious!
Watches CAN be more than just jewelry. A phone is usually in a pocket, with the display turned off. In order to see what time it is, you have to pull it out, press a button to turn on the display, and then put it back. Glancing at a watch is just easier. The design reminds me a lot of the Timex Marlin. And for around the same price, the Marlin has an mechanical movement instead of quartz. As to water resistance, I would generally avoid water on ANY watch with a leather band. The case itself might be water resistant, but I wouldn't want to see what water would do to that leather. If the price were lower, I would rate this "Cool." I really like the look, but it seems expensive for a quartz.
Just have to say I really enjoyed your watch reviews. I've watched four in a row and I truly think I could watch you do reviews for hours on end. Than you 🙏
Yeah, then again, Seiko (and Citizen etc) won't make watches looking like this and compared to the usual horrible influencer marketed fashion watches, this Junkers is pretty good value.
The Pagani is definitely cool at the price-point. Even though it's a bit too large IIRC. The Junkers... hmmm... since, to me, this is the quintessential "dad watch" look (my father actually owns a vintage gold watch that looks very similar) and since it's trying to be a Junghans, I can't really say it's cool. I think what bothers me most about it is the very prominent logo they just had to squeeze onto the dial. Kinda ruins the clean look.
The junkers is not the best value, but a real looker. I will go with cool. The pagani is really not my taste so not cool. I have a bambino, but it is just too big on my avarage wrist. Anyway, great review Ben.
Since the mid 2000s watches went from time telling functional devices to bygone fashion accessory. That is when cell phones stopped using an internal clock that had the accuracy of a bad mechanical timex to using the atomic clock in the cell towers. There are limited sections of practicality such as swimming, sports and other things were a watch still is a better choice (at least until they make a 100m rated cell phone). It's a just another thing. In some cases it is "expected" business wear.
I bought a Junkers Eisvogel black face. Retail price £189. After 2 days noticed that the second subdial was ticking away in a weird way. Ended up having my money back. Build quality seemed very poor.
Junkers cool, Chinese special pagani design with sapphire, 316L ss, Seiko mechaquartz movement, decent design and colour options and 2/10 leather strap........ ice coldddd
Best looking watch under £200 or $250? I think you have to go vintage for that price, like the Longines refences 8888 or 8903, for example. Really classy looking watches with the legendary 30L or 302 movements so there's some horological interest in addition to the design. There are many classy looking Wittnaeurs, GP's, Rados, Seikos, etc. in this price range, if you're willing to risk a bit.
Under £200 in the Europe o nly. I'd probably get wrecked on import fees in North America :( Why can't the Germans make a cheap quartz like the Japanese. I would expect sapphire at this price though on a quartz.
The quartz movement does not flatter this watch style and contradicts it. For example, quartz plays beautifully well on a Swatch. But this one deserves a mechanical movement.
It is cool in my eyes But it ended up being fashion watch. Seems junkers changed whole line with miota over ronda. I find it a shame because this design is one of the best bauhaus i saw. Belts on older ones were really good. Like really good. Shame to herethey are less now
"The most important thing about wrist watches is how they look" I couldn't agree more with this How a watch looks is probably the single biggest factor for me when deciding whether to buy a watch or not That said, why do homages sometimes get so much hatred? We've just established that the single most important thing about a watch is how they look, yet when it comes to homages people start diving into all sorts of excuses to hate on them "Horological story", "brand heritage", "in house movement", etc are all common excuses plumbed up to justify going for the more "respected" brands, while vilifying homages that literally rocks the same design but at 1/100 of the price
Not exactly.. I agree to some extend but you must acknowledge that there is something romantic about vintage Omega or JLC movements which were made by hand, with components forged in local factories. If you could choose two equally pretty watches, one with a caliber made by hand in a Swiss factory, the other made by machines in a Chinese mass production facility.. I'd know what to choose.
@@arnaudmeert1527 If both are equally pretty, I indeed know which one to choose - considering that the Swiss made one is probably x100 more expensive than the Chinese made one Of course there is something appealing about a handmade Omega or JLC as you said, but the prices of most of these Swiss brands are terribly inflated Having said that, I am not opposed to people going for those Swiss luxury brands - if you can afford it and want to indulge in it, by all means, enjoy yourself My point was more about how some people vilify homages and Chinese specials, even though in some cases they give you great value for the money you pay - I think there's room for both to exist really, Swiss luxury brands for the prestige (because ultimately not everyone can afford one), and homages/Chinese watches for the value for money
"The most important thing about wrist watches is how they look" I agree to this as well. That's why I don't vilify DW or MVMT. If people want to wear those watches and they have the funds for it, them who am I to judge? They like how those watches look, right? There's a real fascination as well for "Horological story", "brand heritage", "in house movement" and such terms that you deem as mere excuses. As I see it, there are snobs who hate on homages and lower end watches, and of course there are those who lack the haute horlogerie knowledge to appreciate in-house calibers and brand heritage and so they hate on the higher end timepieces. I say they are all just pots calling kettles black. I personally own watches ranging from Casios and Seikos, to swiss pieces from Tudor and IWC. If I'm to advocate something, it's to buy and wear whatever watch that speaks music to your ears. Sure, there's a Casio dress watch better than the DW. If you realized that Casio offers a better value for money, then good for you. However, if you still want that DW just because you don't want to wear a watch from the same company that produces the calculator that you use on your frustrating Calculus exam, then by all means buy and wear that DW in good health. Let haters be haters. In the end, only you can determine the true value of his watch from how it makes you feel.
@@BramiShred I'm not sure Casio produces a dress watch, unless you have a very loose interpretation of the term "dress watch". Casio produces tool watches, much like Rolex.
It's just that, well, it's like Indian Motorcycles, you know? Somebody once made legendary bikes. Then they went bust and quit making the bikes. The brand was dead for decades. Then in 2011 someone at Polaris Inc, which didn't even exist when Indian went bust, had a board meeting and decided they could buy that brand and start rehashing some harley copies to make a buck. When you see something like Junkers, Mathey-Tissot or whatever else like that you automatically think "Oh, it's one of these lazarus projects", and it's hard to give the brand any credit afterwards.
Ben demoed a 38mm. The sister brands (Iron Annie, Bauhaus) also have some 36mm quartz watches in that shape and style. Another great alternative is the Sternglas Naos. Similar style, different colors and movements available, quartz (different sizes) and automatic (38mm), and all feature sapphire crystal.
Thanks for introducing me to another interesting brand Ben. What other types of glass retains the curvature as this one but better quality? Is there a Sapphire version that the old Tudor/Rolex's used to use?
Both watches are ice cold. What last watch lacked in heritage, it makes up for in quality/value. After these two I'd love to see you review an accurist. I have an accurist gents London chronograph and it almost looks like a British version of this watch: okay quality for the price, but a heritage and a stunning design (minus the strap. Eww). This junkers really speaks to me in the same way the Accurist London did. I might get one.
I've watched so many of your videos since finding you - really informative and helpful. I do notice a lot that when discussing sizes however, there only seems to be "sizes for men with smaller wrists or bigger wrists". When there are already limited options for women, this is a little off-putting for your female viewers.
I believe it's 36mm isn't it? I could be mistaken, but if it's the ladies/unisex one you're referring to, the disadvantage is lack of styles to choose from unfortunately
Great brand! I've got a junkers ju 52 chrono limited edition. I've seen the anniversary bauhaus but at 2000 euro I couldnt pull the trigger its just to small for my wrist. Mescherschmitt still exist as watch maker. Very good brand just a bit of research and im sure you can find something.
Ben, to my mind, the connection between the original Junkers company and the Junkers watches of today can be said as tenuous at best. In the watch world in particular, we see a lot of "zombie brands", where a long-defunct brand - usually a renown watch maker from the past - is re-registered by a current firm and thus claiming to be its true successor with all the achievements. Some of them put some efforts into establishing a spiritual connection, like "if the old company never went bust, what would they be making today?" but few bothered to do so. I think a fair few of my vintage watches have similar appearances to this but at more modest outlays, cost of service notwithstanding, but I do like my Accurist Clerkenwell 1946 though.
Yeah... in this case, though, they have the great grand-daughter of Hugo Junkers on their homepage. Sure, maybe that's just a stunt but there seem to be SOME connection to the original aircraft brand. Doesn't seem like it's just a re-register by some investment firm with no connection at all.
The Junkers is beautiful, but with a quartz Miyota, plastic crystal, and plainly finished case, it's just overpriced. They should have at least gone with a Ronda quartz. But if I see one on a good sale, I'll pick it up!
Not my cup of char, I wouldn’t pay 50 quid for it , but there you go watches are a personal thing , don’t like the name ,, to close to junk , cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Sorry, but we are talking about a basic quartz watch with an acrylic crystal and a plain leather strap. It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look particularly good either, and certainly not $200 good.
I hate their logo, it reminds me of someone on a torture rack. I don’t exactly know why but it keeps me away. And for Gods sake get the second hand to hit the markers at this price point! Cool. Ice cold for the pagani.
I honestly think, after using some autos I will be sticking with Quartz for the longterm. Quartz just does everything better. I think id rather pay a few hundred for a Quartz that tells time, vs a couple hundred for a watch to be off time every day.
Orient or other mechanical watch please Please could you try and say two sentences or more without the mass amounts of edit. Sorry the flow of the content is mechanical.
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You'll be surprised to hear that on one of the very few occasions that I did drop a watch, it happened to be a Tissot Gold dress watch with Hesalite glass. The glass cracked instantly, a small piece of it flying off into the distance. So much for impact resistance of Hesalite.
I do like the Junkers very much. The price is pushing it a little, still I vote Cool! The Pagani is a beautiful watch at an attractive price, with a very good movement, I vote ice cold! See you in the next one!
Fell in love with this watch from this video. Finally ended up making the purchase for a used one as it was hard to justify the full price.
what did you think about that watch after you bought it?
I have Iron Annie. What a masterpiece. Top craftsmanship
I have an Iron Annie watch, with an ETA G10.212 quartz chronograph movement. Great watch, looks beautiful. It fills that Junghans chronograph sized gap.
Hesolit is great because you can polish it in few minutes with poliwatch and similar stuff. It is like lether shooes. It looks great if you take care of it. Junhans uses hesolite too with max bill. I have cronograph with Ronda quartz 6 jeweles version
I just watched your "10 alternative to DW shite" and saw this watch, instantly fell in love with it and ordered the automatic varient.....
Just looked at junkers website. Seriously good line-up...very good looking watches and great value
Good to see a video on Junkers watches. I just bought a used version with an ETA movement.
Just subbed to this channel and so far your vids have been really good.
I've been looking for an affordable, minimalist champange dial watch and this one is great.
Beautiful watch. If they offered it in an auto with sapphire I’d have definitely picked one up.
That sunburst dial looks contagiously attractive 😍
This watch is cool and simplistic. I love it.
Just ordered an Iron Annie 5056 with Swiss Automatic Movement. Looks almost exactly as the Junghans Max Bill but at half the price. A comparison between those two would be great.
I bought 5938 for 199 $ . Lovely watch
Great watch outside and inside top quality and affordable , I own one 7 years and can say highly recommend it .
I like a nice acrylic crystal. Gives it a 'warmer' look. Scratches are easy to polish out anyways
Dropped my Bertucci Titanium quartz from a height of 15 feet onto a concrete floor a week ago.
Construction work.
Not a scratch and still ticking.
I like a nice domed acrylic crystal, personally
Hi Ben. Great review, as always. However, you missed some details here.
Junkers is no longer (since 2019) produced by Pointtec: their 20 year license to use the Junkers brand expired and the Junkers family decided to do it by themselves (getting the "full enchilada" instead of receiving just royalties from Pointtec...). This is why the brand Iron Annie was born: Pointtec is using it now (not just in "certain countries", as you mentioned) as an alternative to Junkers. BTW, they also created a new brand, Bauhaus. These two will encompass all the models that used to be under the Junkers brand made by Pointtec.
Also worth mention is the fact that the "new" Junkers are of very poor quality when compared with the ones manufactured by Pointtec. Maybe they will improve with time but, right now, the quality is clearly not at the same level as the Pointtec watches.
Interesting. Any links? So now main Junkers site shows "new" Junkers watches?
Personally I like their Bauhaus watches, going to buy one of them.
The change of direction came about after the parent company Pointtec decided not to renew the Junkers license after a sharp increase in royalty fees was asked for by the brand’s family for the use of its name. (c) www.watchpro.com/junkers-name-retired-in-favour-of-iron-annie-by-german-watchmaker-pointtec/
Iron annie are nice looking but all their models use mineral glass, so for that reason alone i'd steer clear of them
I really like the styling of it although i'm Not the guy for minimalist watches. But to be honest, i wouldn't want a movement like this in a 200 pound watch.
I have a Zeppelin 100 years chorogaph with a Ronda movement inside . It was slightly more expensive but offers way better value for money
"slightly more expensive"?
The automatic ones cost two and a half times what this clock cost! And at 500€ there are many better alternatives. It's certainly not good value for money.
This is the problem with the Junkers Bauhaus, it's too expensive for the quartz and not competitive with the automatic.
Beautiful minimalist design
What do you mean by being underwhelmed by the Miyota movement? It’s not accurate? Loses/gains time? Can you explain more?
what he means is that miyota quartz movements are usually quite cheap, at about 5 pounds on average. They are not bad per se, they are quite reliable and accurate, as all quartz movements are, yet seeing such a movement in a 200 pound watch is what's underwhelming.
@@danilakisliak8954 Thanks for the reply. I guess I find it strange that you can be disappointed in something's price instead of its quality/value.
@@jonwlo such is the world of watches. It's not so much about the movement, really, but about the whole watch. Surely some 316L stainless steel, a piece of acrylic glass and a 5£ Miyota, all on a genuine leather strap can't be worth 200 pounds, even with such nice design. There is far better value to be found elsewhere.
@@danilakisliak8954 "They are not bad per se, they are quite reliable and accurate".
But still, in if the Miyotas are reliable and accurate how would the watch be improved by a more expensive movement?
@@seybertooth9282 the watch could be improved by lowering its price. With the movement being as it is, the watch really doesn't have much going for it on a material level to justify the price.
Hi there what's the exact model name? I love the sunburst dial but none of the models on their website have this copper sunburst effect. Is this discontinued or am I missing something? Thanks!
Beautiful watch for a great price! Thanks for the review! I think it belongs in the "cool" category.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for highlighting this brand.
Is this the beige dial? On the site the beige version doesnt look like sunburst like the silver one
The Junker 87 sure sounded intresting when they were dive bombing with the wing propeller mounted for the singular reason of making the ones getting bombed shit themselves. Some times those were, hehe
Nice one Ben 👍
The one you got there, is that the silver one or the beige one? Kinda hard to spot as it comes off as dark grey-ish here.
Hiya and interesting. My dad had his dress watches which were on leather straps and very slim. My take these days is that bracelets and " sportier" cases tend to have replaced those days? My "best " watch is daftly enough a quartz sekonda! Looks a lot more than the £25.00 it cost and the bracelet is fine.The blue dial has had compliments even ? You don't need to spend £200 for a well put together piece that at 39 mm looks pretty classy? Cheers.
I would wear this watch anytime. With the crystal, you can polish any scratches out.
Made in Germany but with a Japanese movement?
Junkers is cool. Great looking watch that is let down by average specs. Not with the £200 price point. £130 is probably about right.
I used to have the Junkers Bauhaus with power reserve. Beautiful watch, but the hesalite crystal chipped and that was that. Non-sapphire has since been no-go for me, especially with domed crystal.
The best dress watch on that price is clearly the orient bambino ss
Nah, to big for most people...best dress watch under 200 is timex marlin 34mm
I'd agree, though the 21mm lugs is a pain when looking for a strap...
pfft,.. typical common answer,. booorrriinnnnggg
@@stigsstupidcousin3102 He mentioned the "Small Seconds" variant, less common (if I'm not mistaken).
@@arbestcrontisb4248 It's 40,5 mm. Definitely not "too big", even though it's still large for a dress watch. But the Marlin? Come on, it's just so plain! A gold Bambino SS looks much more luxurious!
Good looking watch, but for the price I would look at an automatic Timex Marlin for a similar look. Thanks for the review. 👍
Ew automatic I'd rather get this quartz.
Watches CAN be more than just jewelry. A phone is usually in a pocket, with the display turned off. In order to see what time it is, you have to pull it out, press a button to turn on the display, and then put it back. Glancing at a watch is just easier.
The design reminds me a lot of the Timex Marlin. And for around the same price, the Marlin has an mechanical movement instead of quartz.
As to water resistance, I would generally avoid water on ANY watch with a leather band. The case itself might be water resistant, but I wouldn't want to see what water would do to that leather.
If the price were lower, I would rate this "Cool." I really like the look, but it seems expensive for a quartz.
Just have to say I really enjoyed your watch reviews. I've watched four in a row and I truly think I could watch you do reviews for hours on end. Than you 🙏
perfect movement
Is the clock face silver or cream?
Pagani Design and Junkers, both cool (would've given the Junkers an ice cold of it weren't for the quartz movement)
It looks good but its a bad value. A Seiko is way better for the price.
Yeah, then again, Seiko (and Citizen etc) won't make watches looking like this and compared to the usual horrible influencer marketed fashion watches, this Junkers is pretty good value.
Seiko has one bad thing going for them: indexing watch hands with dial indexes has is well known. This low price Junkers is on the mark 👌❤️👍
Now renamed as Iron Annie, what was they thinking.
How does the lume look on it?
Haha good joke
The orient bambino v3 is the better option and also gives a bauhaus vibe in black or white.
The Pagani is definitely cool at the price-point. Even though it's a bit too large IIRC.
The Junkers... hmmm... since, to me, this is the quintessential "dad watch" look (my father actually owns a vintage gold watch that looks very similar) and since it's trying to be a Junghans, I can't really say it's cool. I think what bothers me most about it is the very prominent logo they just had to squeeze onto the dial. Kinda ruins the clean look.
Pretty cool
I like it .it looks ok .
The junkers is not the best value, but a real looker. I will go with cool. The pagani is really not my taste so not cool. I have a bambino, but it is just too big on my avarage wrist. Anyway, great review Ben.
I vote uncool for the Pagani and cool for the Junkers
Since the mid 2000s watches went from time telling functional devices to bygone fashion accessory. That is when cell phones stopped using an internal clock that had the accuracy of a bad mechanical timex to using the atomic clock in the cell towers. There are limited sections of practicality such as swimming, sports and other things were a watch still is a better choice (at least until they make a 100m rated cell phone). It's a just another thing. In some cases it is "expected" business wear.
I bought a Junkers Eisvogel black face. Retail price £189. After 2 days noticed that the second subdial was ticking away in a weird way. Ended up having my money back. Build quality seemed very poor.
Junkers cool, Chinese special pagani design with sapphire, 316L ss, Seiko mechaquartz movement, decent design and colour options and 2/10 leather strap........ ice coldddd
Best looking watch under £200 or $250? I think you have to go vintage for that price, like the Longines refences 8888 or 8903, for example. Really classy looking watches with the legendary 30L or 302 movements so there's some horological interest in addition to the design. There are many classy looking Wittnaeurs, GP's, Rados, Seikos, etc. in this price range, if you're willing to risk a bit.
Im starting lov dis channel.
Looks like it hits the marks about 70% of the time.....better than some (Timex) worse than others (Casio tend to hit the marks).
Under £200 in the Europe o nly. I'd probably get wrecked on import fees in North America :( Why can't the Germans make a cheap quartz like the Japanese.
I would expect sapphire at this price though on a quartz.
lol that movement for that price? crazy. might as well buy a Casio
The quartz movement does not flatter this watch style and contradicts it. For example, quartz plays beautifully well on a Swatch. But this one deserves a mechanical movement.
Nice
It is cool in my eyes
But it ended up being fashion watch. Seems junkers changed whole line with miota over ronda. I find it a shame because this design is one of the best bauhaus i saw. Belts on older ones were really good. Like really good. Shame to herethey are less now
I love this watch and I yearn to have it.
But the customs of my country have a 200 dollars limit and I need someone to bring it from Europe to me...
"The most important thing about wrist watches is how they look"
I couldn't agree more with this
How a watch looks is probably the single biggest factor for me when deciding whether to buy a watch or not
That said, why do homages sometimes get so much hatred?
We've just established that the single most important thing about a watch is how they look, yet when it comes to homages people start diving into all sorts of excuses to hate on them
"Horological story", "brand heritage", "in house movement", etc are all common excuses plumbed up to justify going for the more "respected" brands, while vilifying homages that literally rocks the same design but at 1/100 of the price
Not exactly.. I agree to some extend but you must acknowledge that there is something romantic about vintage Omega or JLC movements which were made by hand, with components forged in local factories. If you could choose two equally pretty watches, one with a caliber made by hand in a Swiss factory, the other made by machines in a Chinese mass production facility.. I'd know what to choose.
@@arnaudmeert1527 If both are equally pretty, I indeed know which one to choose - considering that the Swiss made one is probably x100 more expensive than the Chinese made one
Of course there is something appealing about a handmade Omega or JLC as you said, but the prices of most of these Swiss brands are terribly inflated
Having said that, I am not opposed to people going for those Swiss luxury brands - if you can afford it and want to indulge in it, by all means, enjoy yourself
My point was more about how some people vilify homages and Chinese specials, even though in some cases they give you great value for the money you pay - I think there's room for both to exist really, Swiss luxury brands for the prestige (because ultimately not everyone can afford one), and homages/Chinese watches for the value for money
"The most important thing about wrist watches is how they look"
I agree to this as well. That's why I don't vilify DW or MVMT. If people want to wear those watches and they have the funds for it, them who am I to judge? They like how those watches look, right?
There's a real fascination as well for "Horological story", "brand heritage", "in house movement" and such terms that you deem as mere excuses. As I see it, there are snobs who hate on homages and lower end watches, and of course there are those who lack the haute horlogerie knowledge to appreciate in-house calibers and brand heritage and so they hate on the higher end timepieces. I say they are all just pots calling kettles black.
I personally own watches ranging from Casios and Seikos, to swiss pieces from Tudor and IWC. If I'm to advocate something, it's to buy and wear whatever watch that speaks music to your ears. Sure, there's a Casio dress watch better than the DW. If you realized that Casio offers a better value for money, then good for you. However, if you still want that DW just because you don't want to wear a watch from the same company that produces the calculator that you use on your frustrating Calculus exam, then by all means buy and wear that DW in good health. Let haters be haters. In the end, only you can determine the true value of his watch from how it makes you feel.
@@BramiShred I'm not sure Casio produces a dress watch, unless you have a very loose interpretation of the term "dress watch". Casio produces tool watches, much like Rolex.
@@arnaudmeert1527 ref LTP-V005GL-9B should be an example
It's just that, well, it's like Indian Motorcycles, you know? Somebody once made legendary bikes. Then they went bust and quit making the bikes. The brand was dead for decades. Then in 2011 someone at Polaris Inc, which didn't even exist when Indian went bust, had a board meeting and decided they could buy that brand and start rehashing some harley copies to make a buck. When you see something like Junkers, Mathey-Tissot or whatever else like that you automatically think "Oh, it's one of these lazarus projects", and it's hard to give the brand any credit afterwards.
The great grand-daughter of Hugo Junker supports the brand though... sure that's marketing, but it seems there is SOME connection to the real deal?
Looks like it.
But the factory seems to be a traditional one in Eastern Germany (Uhrenwerke Ruhla)
If it was 36 or even 38mm I'd buy it.
Ben demoed a 38mm. The sister brands (Iron Annie, Bauhaus) also have some 36mm quartz watches in that shape and style. Another great alternative is the Sternglas Naos. Similar style, different colors and movements available, quartz (different sizes) and automatic (38mm), and all feature sapphire crystal.
Thanks for introducing me to another interesting brand Ben. What other types of glass retains the curvature as this one but better quality? Is there a Sapphire version that the old Tudor/Rolex's used to use?
If anyone knows where to buy this in USA 🇺🇸
Please reply
Too expensive for the specs and if I was to buy a watch from JU it would be related to their aircraft heritage.
Both watches are ice cold.
What last watch lacked in heritage, it makes up for in quality/value.
After these two I'd love to see you review an accurist. I have an accurist gents London chronograph and it almost looks like a British version of this watch: okay quality for the price, but a heritage and a stunning design (minus the strap. Eww).
This junkers really speaks to me in the same way the Accurist London did. I might get one.
I've watched so many of your videos since finding you - really informative and helpful. I do notice a lot that when discussing sizes however, there only seems to be "sizes for men with smaller wrists or bigger wrists". When there are already limited options for women, this is a little off-putting for your female viewers.
Orient are now making a 38mm Bambino so for less money you can get an automatic rather than a quartz if that's what you prefer.
I believe it's 36mm isn't it? I could be mistaken, but if it's the ladies/unisex one you're referring to, the disadvantage is lack of styles to choose from unfortunately
Yep, the story of my watch collecting life!
Also there's the detail that it's almost impossible to find.
Great brand! I've got a junkers ju 52 chrono limited edition. I've seen the anniversary bauhaus but at 2000 euro I couldnt pull the trigger its just to small for my wrist. Mescherschmitt still exist as watch maker. Very good brand just a bit of research and im sure you can find something.
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Ben, to my mind, the connection between the original Junkers company and the Junkers watches of today can be said as tenuous at best. In the watch world in particular, we see a lot of "zombie brands", where a long-defunct brand - usually a renown watch maker from the past - is re-registered by a current firm and thus claiming to be its true successor with all the achievements. Some of them put some efforts into establishing a spiritual connection, like "if the old company never went bust, what would they be making today?" but few bothered to do so. I think a fair few of my vintage watches have similar appearances to this but at more modest outlays, cost of service notwithstanding, but I do like my Accurist Clerkenwell 1946 though.
Yeah... in this case, though, they have the great grand-daughter of Hugo Junkers on their homepage. Sure, maybe that's just a stunt but there seem to be SOME connection to the original aircraft brand. Doesn't seem like it's just a re-register by some investment firm with no connection at all.
The Junkers is beautiful, but with a quartz Miyota, plastic crystal, and plainly finished case, it's just overpriced. They should have at least gone with a Ronda quartz.
But if I see one on a good sale, I'll pick it up!
Nice enough but expensive . I'd prefer a Bambino. Thanks for sharing your video. 😆😺
I love the design, but way too expensive for a cheap quartz movement and no sapphire glass.
Not my cup of char, I wouldn’t pay 50 quid for it , but there you go watches are a personal thing , don’t like the name ,, to close to junk , cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
shaneweightman too*
Plus i believe its german, would be pronounces with a y. But idk
Just get a Bambino!
Good looking but not the best, Casio, Timex, Bulova and a few microbrands offers outstanding good looking watches anyway made in Germany? Miyota!! 🧐
My wife swims every day... why do watch guys worry about waterproofing?
How is there any value for money here? I know it says that this channel isn't sponsored but I have a hard time believing it after watching this.
Looks like we have different views on what makes a good watch, fair enough. No reason to suggest I'm committing fraud though
Sorry, but we are talking about a basic quartz watch with an acrylic crystal and a plain leather strap. It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look particularly good either, and certainly not $200 good.
urban gentry has a better one. maybe it was junk until he changed the strap
I really like the design, but there are so much better options to spend 200€ on.
I hate their logo, it reminds me of someone on a torture rack. I don’t exactly know why but it keeps me away. And for Gods sake get the second hand to hit the markers at this price point! Cool. Ice cold for the pagani.
I would not pay more than £20 for a watch with a quartz movement.
I honestly think, after using some autos I will be sticking with Quartz for the longterm. Quartz just does everything better. I think id rather pay a few hundred for a Quartz that tells time, vs a couple hundred for a watch to be off time every day.
I think it's named properly. It's way too expensive for the JUNK you get. I does look nice, but not worth that price.
cost its made in germany and a quartz its costs £200 on amazon ouch too much pass cheers
This watch is for junkers... for those who collect junk.
Orient or other mechanical watch please
Please could you try and say two sentences or more without the mass amounts of edit. Sorry the flow of the content is mechanical.
It's nice but has a kind of old man's look about it.
That's fine. You go back to stupid DW's and us "old men" wear decent watches.