@luckasneo mentioned Additional Damage so heres the rough estimated math assuming enough def for teamups, and like +600-700 atk Icarus 24% ADTL by DEF and 3.5k def after tower you're hitting for another 850~ dmg / hit 24% ADTL by ATL and +650 atk (+ lets say 8% Atk Inc & 2 fight sets)) you're likely hitting for another 650~ dmg / hit 24% Co-op Dmg multiplier on a 4-5k hit which is 1k+ (Variable based on how much damage you actually deal) Additionals are probably slightly better than crit damage, or near equal pending your stats.
For DB12, i believe the best speeds are verd 21, icarus 50, 24, 9 where verd plays last when spd totem is max... Those spds will guarantee the best number of turns prior to immunity and allow maximizing other stats
The artifact info and attack/crit info were super super helpful. It’s sometimes difficult to figure out the math without knowing how things multiply and finding accurate info is tough.
Appreciate it. Recently redid a few of my runes on my icarus to get another 200 atk or so per icaru. And improved my verde runes a bit. Went from 55s average to about 48s average. Definitely a noticeable difference like you said. Also, another tip that worked for me was: For those running triple-guard (because it's the easiest to rune). If you're overcap on defense, you could consider changing out one of your guard sets for higher efficiency broken sets. I changed mine to shield because I got like tons of high efficiency shield runes lying around
My beginner's advice to tricaru is get the defense requirement, then focus on one to have speed, one to have accuracy or skill 1 acc and the last one to have crit rate for damage.
This video gave me anxiety, now I want to start runecrafting and improve my tricaru team. Pretty good video, I have some Determination and Fight runes laying down there.
Enjoying the content as a newer viewer. Would enjoy some artifact guide on what to keep as I had only been keeping purple +, but I see here it's worth keeping blue for Coop atk. More siege videos would be nice as well since I personally enjoy watching siege in G3 and seeing what the top players are using but I understand it can become a bit stale always having the videos. Looking forward to future vids!
Honestly, for runes and artifacts, you should always keep high blues because the game is about making incremental improvements and not taking gigantic strides. Ive been taking a lot of sieges off due to being really busy with Stream/Life stuff, but I try to upload those whenever I am in a Siege Battle! For the Artifact Guide, I've written, recorded, and scrapped it 4 times so far. Haven't created a guide that I feel is "good enough" for my self standard. Hopefully I can get it right on the 5th try because that would definitely be a helpful video for most!
Love this content and like the educational style videos because a lot of times there are tons of things that I forget in this game. I havent seen it but have you done videos on how to clear the Dimensional Hole Bosses safely and efficiently? Those would be pretty cool to see. I stay in Ellunia usually but have wanted to branch into Lumel and Khaldrun.
My tricaru is 38s average. I found out that CR is a must have for a consistent time. I managed to have around 1s between my average and my best. (Only one fight / determination) You can make a video about it if you want. I would be happy to share it with you. Great video btw ✌️
24% ADTL by DEF and 3.5k def after tower you're hitting for another 850~ dmg / hit 24% ADTL by ATL and +750 atk (+ lets say 8% Atk Inc) you're likely hitting for another 650~ dmg / hit 24% Co-op Dmg multiplier on a 4-5k hit which is 1k+ (Variable based on how much damage you actually deal) Additionals are probably slightly better than crit damage, or near equal pending your stats.
nice vid! i dont really like vtube thing but its not like it bothers me anyway, if it is better for your comfort just do it, its ok, overall thanks for the good videos
Not 100% sure but I think the dmg to x element, coop dmg, counter dmg are all additive in the outside part of the formula after the original dmg it's done. And since add dmg by stats it's also outside this dmg is not affected by the other substats. I wanted to tell this so if anyone by chance has more add dmg substats it might not be exactly 10% more damage.
thanks, maybe a guide on rift beast crystals - if its worth to farm some end game for boxes/reapps. and the recent changes on how they can be converted into another type of crystal now? Cause I see people just skipping on the legendary magic boxes each week but I think these are worth personally
Have you done the math for higher CD if enemy hp is max. Odds are the icaru won't get the crystal hp low before the verd damage hits. And so if you have like a 25 percent cd artifact if hap is max, then you are probably adding around 20 percent at the time the verd connects. That could be a big determining factor when trying to 1 tap the crystals
Everytime anyone takes a turn, attackbar is distrubuted. Eventually the boss hets enough attackbar (past 100% visual) that it overtakes yours team (which is always usually over 100% visual die to teamups + verde passive)
Verde leader is ideal so that the speeds are consistent and your teams arent too slow. If you need icaru speed to be higher than verde and the only way to do it is via using their lead, try it, and it might be better for you. The issue mostly lies in your overall team being too slow. (Icaru lapping verde might be unrealistic due to attackbar gain from verde passive being way higher than natural gain from speed)
@@OnceInLuv my team is fine, i have 45s avg runs, but my thought process was to maximize dmg, and one way i was thinking is icaru going 2nd time before verde. my verde wont oneshot crystal, but teamup does - so on trash waves i would want 5x teamup instead of 3x teamup and verde moving. If my teamup takes 15% boss hp, and my verde takes 7%, logic tells me that having more teamups overall is better, than everything moving in order. Or am i thinking wrong...
how should i go about getting better runes for my verde? he's currently not doing enough damage and i don't have enough rage runes but my icarus are somewhat ready, thanks!
Giants used 55 Acc, Dragons uses 65. The ideal speeds for Giants are to be 180 Spd (before tower and lead) to move twice before the boss (safety mechanic). In Dragons you can be quite slow on the Icaru being as low as like 130 total before lead iirc. (Theres a comment on the video with the speeds) Also in Giants its recommended to have 1 or 2 shield sets to protect Belial from revenge counter crit.
I'm kind of a new summoners war player, I've watched tons of videos about guides and how to do things but this is by far THE BEST video I've ever watched. You are not just telling what to do but also why it needs to be done and that gave me a lot of information about the game. Also a shame on youtube for never suggesting youır channel/videos to me, I found this video on out guild discord. THANK YOU!
I have to agree. I just got started reaching the DEF requirements and was a little underwhelmed when I still failed. I looked up further and everyone just says. 'need higher stats/more attack/more accuracy'. This one breaks it down really well.
swarfarm.com/bestiary/dungeons/ Click into "B10/B12" and youll see the resist of mobs in the dungeon. You need that number, minus 15% so Giants needs 55, Dragons need 65, etc!
I’ve been running a 55 ish second icaru with a few fight runes, but I totally didn’t think about the % fire damage was totally useless on the crystals. This was super useful!
Even knowingly have upgrades to my Tricaru, I am sooooo lazy into changing the runes. Under 50 secs is good enough to do other things and restart it. And really too lazy to skill them up. Maybe i just change the artifacts and feel accomplished. LOL
I personally havent found any optimal speed above the minimums for dragons. This video I also specified assumes you already know the basics of Tricaru (which would include min speeds) Giants and other dungeons have specific breakpoints. Dragons is mainly about hitting minimum speed and min/maxing damage because its a per-turn damage check.
@OnceinLuv should it be more better if you mix fight and determination set rather than fight and guard set? Say you have 3 set of determination total, 1 each icaru for example, so that 24% deter set total for everyone instead of 15% for each who has guard set? Guard set will only benefit who's wearing it but determination benefits all.
Sure, if your determination runes are actually good that will work. Most people will have way better guard runes though, so this was a more realistic approach.
@luckasneo mentioned Additional Damage so heres the rough estimated math assuming enough def for teamups, and like +600-700 atk Icarus
24% ADTL by DEF and 3.5k def after tower you're hitting for another 850~ dmg / hit
24% ADTL by ATL and +650 atk (+ lets say 8% Atk Inc & 2 fight sets)) you're likely hitting for another 650~ dmg / hit
24% Co-op Dmg multiplier on a 4-5k hit which is 1k+ (Variable based on how much damage you actually deal)
Additionals are probably slightly better than crit damage, or near equal pending your stats.
For DB12, i believe the best speeds are verd 21, icarus 50, 24, 9 where verd plays last when spd totem is max... Those spds will guarantee the best number of turns prior to immunity and allow maximizing other stats
Nice a new vid, im gonna save this to listen on my drive to work later
The artifact info and attack/crit info were super super helpful. It’s sometimes difficult to figure out the math without knowing how things multiply and finding accurate info is tough.
Great.. improved from 1 min to average 56sec just by changing them with co op artifacts. And adding that transmog. Thanks
Appreciate it. Recently redid a few of my runes on my icarus to get another 200 atk or so per icaru. And improved my verde runes a bit. Went from 55s average to about 48s average. Definitely a noticeable difference like you said. Also, another tip that worked for me was: For those running triple-guard (because it's the easiest to rune). If you're overcap on defense, you could consider changing out one of your guard sets for higher efficiency broken sets. I changed mine to shield because I got like tons of high efficiency shield runes lying around
My beginner's advice to tricaru is get the defense requirement, then focus on one to have speed, one to have accuracy or skill 1 acc and the last one to have crit rate for damage.
Thanks so much for this! Really helpful, always not certain about which artifact lines are best for tricaru.
This guide was very helpful now I can work on my tricaru team to get past the minute mark
This video gave me anxiety, now I want to start runecrafting and improve my tricaru team. Pretty good video, I have some Determination and Fight runes laying down there.
I have missed you guys, thanks for letting me take a short break
Loved the video. Verh informative. My tricaru just broke 39 seconds.
Sub 40s is op
Amazing video, thanks XD
Thx so much
Enjoying the content as a newer viewer.
Would enjoy some artifact guide on what to keep as I had only been keeping purple +, but I see here it's worth keeping blue for Coop atk.
More siege videos would be nice as well since I personally enjoy watching siege in G3 and seeing what the top players are using but I understand it can become a bit stale always having the videos.
Looking forward to future vids!
Honestly, for runes and artifacts, you should always keep high blues because the game is about making incremental improvements and not taking gigantic strides.
Ive been taking a lot of sieges off due to being really busy with Stream/Life stuff, but I try to upload those whenever I am in a Siege Battle!
For the Artifact Guide, I've written, recorded, and scrapped it 4 times so far. Haven't created a guide that I feel is "good enough" for my self standard. Hopefully I can get it right on the 5th try because that would definitely be a helpful video for most!
Tks for this amazing video, will helps a lot!! bring us more and relevant farming content, Thanks you!!!
Love this content and like the educational style videos because a lot of times there are tons of things that I forget in this game. I havent seen it but have you done videos on how to clear the Dimensional Hole Bosses safely and efficiently? Those would be pretty cool to see. I stay in Ellunia usually but have wanted to branch into Lumel and Khaldrun.
Soon, on the roster for future vids rn
My tricaru is 38s average. I found out that CR is a must have for a consistent time. I managed to have around 1s between my average and my best. (Only one fight / determination)
You can make a video about it if you want. I would be happy to share it with you.
Great video btw ✌️
whats ur stats?
Thanks i didnt know i should shoot for co-op damage
Love the educational content!!!!
i feel you with the camera thing... i been wanting to get an avatar for when im not using a camera
You should! PNGTube is the way, or even just a nice still image
Just finished my tricaru team yesterday, but i can't kill the boss lol :D need more damage, definitely i'll look for coop damage arts, thank you
Nice job!
i wish you had the dragons set on them just to see ur tricarus as a goal to work towards but great video apart from that :))
They're like 20-30 speed slower with 10 more acc. I haven't fully rebuilt them with fight runes, only w/ budget stuff like Fatal Dmg ones.
additional damage accodring to attack or defense is also kinda good.
24% ADTL by DEF and 3.5k def after tower you're hitting for another 850~ dmg / hit
24% ADTL by ATL and +750 atk (+ lets say 8% Atk Inc) you're likely hitting for another 650~ dmg / hit
24% Co-op Dmg multiplier on a 4-5k hit which is 1k+ (Variable based on how much damage you actually deal)
Additionals are probably slightly better than crit damage, or near equal pending your stats.
When OnceInLuv turns the camera off you finally realize he truly has a face for TH-cam
yea Insta-Like! great video
nice vid! i dont really like vtube thing but its not like it bothers me anyway, if it is better for your comfort just do it, its ok, overall thanks for the good videos
Not 100% sure but I think the dmg to x element, coop dmg, counter dmg are all additive in the outside part of the formula after the original dmg it's done. And since add dmg by stats it's also outside this dmg is not affected by the other substats. I wanted to tell this so if anyone by chance has more add dmg substats it might not be exactly 10% more damage.
Bro u are amazing thx
Thanks Mr. Once. Maybe can show your giant b12 fast team, Ty from Argentina.
Great video, ty
is there an ideal range of stats for tricaru to be used in all three rune dungeons?
65 Acc +73 Speed
Then add your def for teamup, more atk for dmg.
thanks, maybe a guide on rift beast crystals - if its worth to farm some end game for boxes/reapps. and the recent changes on how they can be converted into another type of crystal now? Cause I see people just skipping on the legendary magic boxes each week but I think these are worth personally
You always farm out reapps + weekly boxes (now that you can craft Rainbow -> Condensed and vice versa)
Love it!
I made 3icaru months ago
It's in storage
Not working
My tricaru team has a minute run.. and its good for me haha
Can you help with Tricaru for Punisher? I wanna see how that tuning works! Thanks :D
Why my tricaru carry 2 people and yours carry 3
Have you done the math for higher CD if enemy hp is max. Odds are the icaru won't get the crystal hp low before the verd damage hits. And so if you have like a 25 percent cd artifact if hap is max, then you are probably adding around 20 percent at the time the verd connects. That could be a big determining factor when trying to 1 tap the crystals
Do you mean CD as Enemy HP is Less?
Hi what was the reason the dragon final boss got to move? Please help. Im mid game but cant figure out. My speed, def are all fine.. help thanks
Everytime anyone takes a turn, attackbar is distrubuted. Eventually the boss hets enough attackbar (past 100% visual) that it overtakes yours team (which is always usually over 100% visual die to teamups + verde passive)
Tyler numba 1
I'd ask for more visuals explaining what ur saying, instead of just pointing out your mons,
If teamup dmg does more dmg than solo verdehile hit - do we want icaru ldr skill (icaru lap verde) or we still going verde leader?
Verde leader is ideal so that the speeds are consistent and your teams arent too slow. If you need icaru speed to be higher than verde and the only way to do it is via using their lead, try it, and it might be better for you.
The issue mostly lies in your overall team being too slow. (Icaru lapping verde might be unrealistic due to attackbar gain from verde passive being way higher than natural gain from speed)
@@OnceInLuv my team is fine, i have 45s avg runs, but my thought process was to maximize dmg, and one way i was thinking is icaru going 2nd time before verde. my verde wont oneshot crystal, but teamup does - so on trash waves i would want 5x teamup instead of 3x teamup and verde moving. If my teamup takes 15% boss hp, and my verde takes 7%, logic tells me that having more teamups overall is better, than everything moving in order. Or am i thinking wrong...
@@J-KOB99 just try it and see, save the runes before on a preset so you can 1 click them back
how should i go about getting better runes for my verde? he's currently not doing enough damage and i don't have enough rage runes but my icarus are somewhat ready, thanks!
Double Blade, Fatal, Broken sets! R5 improves your damage ton because you get the grinds (imagine like 25-30% atk per build, and some CD/CR Gems)
I wanna see Unusable monsters in RTA
Me every special league LMAO
@@OnceInLuv I wannna see you use racuni 🙏
What´s the difference between tricaru for GB and DB? (Besides belial)
Giants used 55 Acc, Dragons uses 65.
The ideal speeds for Giants are to be 180 Spd (before tower and lead) to move twice before the boss (safety mechanic).
In Dragons you can be quite slow on the Icaru being as low as like 130 total before lead iirc. (Theres a comment on the video with the speeds)
Also in Giants its recommended to have 1 or 2 shield sets to protect Belial from revenge counter crit.
@@OnceInLuv Thanks for info!
Meanwhile i cant even get the stats to get my tricaru to work
You will get there with time! Believe in yourself
I'm kind of a new summoners war player, I've watched tons of videos about guides and how to do things but this is by far THE BEST video I've ever watched. You are not just telling what to do but also why it needs to be done and that gave me a lot of information about the game. Also a shame on youtube for never suggesting youır channel/videos to me, I found this video on out guild discord. THANK YOU!
Teach a man to fish :) also thank you to your guildies for sharing the guide, really helps grow this channel!
I have to agree. I just got started reaching the DEF requirements and was a little underwhelmed when I still failed.
I looked up further and everyone just says. 'need higher stats/more attack/more accuracy'.
This one breaks it down really well.
can i know what all dungeon requirement accuracy...like dragon = 65% other?
swarfarm.com/bestiary/dungeons/
Click into "B10/B12" and youll see the resist of mobs in the dungeon.
You need that number, minus 15% so Giants needs 55, Dragons need 65, etc!
This was great. I've been wondering how to take my tricarus to the next level. Thank you! Can you do teams for the rift beasts sometime maybe?
Sure, when I figure out how to do that myself LMAO
nice tips..... improve my time
Spent this half of the year skilling up all 3 of my icarus, with a julie cleave team on floor 3. Felt sooo good
Really appreciate the actionable improvement guides. I immediately apply anything related to farming efficiency. Constant 1% upgrades are so key.
1% Better everyday baby
I’ve been running a 55 ish second icaru with a few fight runes, but I totally didn’t think about the % fire damage was totally useless on the crystals. This was super useful!
Let me know what your times drop to once you swap up the artifacts!
Even knowingly have upgrades to my Tricaru, I am sooooo lazy into changing the runes. Under 50 secs is good enough to do other things and restart it. And really too lazy to skill them up. Maybe i just change the artifacts and feel accomplished. LOL
Small gains 🙏
uai como o icaru ta puxando com 2294 de defesa??
Great video! Summarised every thing we need to know
Too bad the video didn't talk about optimal turns and speeds. Then it would have been truly end-game.
I personally havent found any optimal speed above the minimums for dragons. This video I also specified assumes you already know the basics of Tricaru (which would include min speeds)
Giants and other dungeons have specific breakpoints. Dragons is mainly about hitting minimum speed and min/maxing damage because its a per-turn damage check.
How in the world can I ever get grinds and gems better than determination runes?
Its a gradual process
@OnceinLuv should it be more better if you mix fight and determination set rather than fight and guard set? Say you have 3 set of determination total, 1 each icaru for example, so that 24% deter set total for everyone instead of 15% for each who has guard set? Guard set will only benefit who's wearing it but determination benefits all.
Sure, if your determination runes are actually good that will work. Most people will have way better guard runes though, so this was a more realistic approach.
Love this content! Could you do one on the dot teams for gb12 and sf10?
What about add damage by def?
Check pinned msg :)
@@OnceInLuv thanks