Muslim Men, Misogyny and Masculinity with Hamza Tzortzis
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- After a brief pause, we are back and now on TH-cam video. In this episode, we explore with @HamzaTzortzisOfficial the crisis of the modern Muslim man. We live in a fast-paced world dominated by technology. Social media has enhanced our lives and given space for Muslims to build networks, raise the profile of beleaguered members of our ummah and forward the call of Islam.
With the goodness that comes from this compression of time and space, there are also challenges. In their eagerness to contribute to da’wah, many young men often lack the necessary characters to meet its requirements. Borrowing from the worst marketing strategies, they employ click-bait, shock and awe tactics and cheap stunts as a shortcut to achieve electronic likes and fame. Response videos and futile debates are used to curry favour with their growing base.
Hamza Tzortzis shares the same concerns about this approach to dawah. We ask him about his journey and how he believes the community must address the absence of good mentoring and a programme of personal development. We also discuss the general perceptions, right or wrong, about young Muslim men.
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The Thinking Muslim Podcast Episode 81
Time stamps
0:00 - 3:00 - Introduction
3:00 - 6:11 - Have you changed since he started out in da’wah?
6:11 - 12:10 - Do you regret starting da’wah so early?
12:10 - 14:00 - Are you being too tough on yourself?
14:00 - 20:17 - A letter to your 22 year old self
20:17 - 29:15 - The state of Muslim TH-camrs
29:15 - 32:38 - Western marketing techniques
32:38 - 39:15 - The impact of neoliberalism and the self
39:15 - 46:05 - The ‘RedPill’ response
46:05 - 55:25 - Misogyny and Patriarchy
55:25 - 1:05:40 - Andrew Tate?
1:05:40 - 1:06:55 - Hamza’s advice to Andrew Tate
1:06:55 - 1:14:00 - Is Andrew Tate a role model for young men?
1:14:00 - 1:25:20 - What to place in a Tarbiyyah programme
1:25:20 - 1:28:10 - What about liberalism?
1:28:10 - 1:35:29 - Mentoring programmes
JazakAllahkhair for the opportunity habibi.
May Allah reward you greatly Hamza
BarakhAllah feek brother. It was a pleasure to have you.
May Allah bless you brother. I enjoyed the conversation.
Ustad Hamza you inspire me
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful.
I humbly disagree with your perspective on the role model problem, and here is why:
My perspective is that it is better for daees to teach that a materially successful figure, like a successful businessman, a popular footballer, kickboxer, tiktoker, tv star, ...etc is not the role model of the believer Muslim.
The Prophet peace be upon him said “A lady from Bani Israel was nursing her child at her breast when a handsome rider passed by her. She said, 'O Allah ! Make my child like him.' On that the child left her breast, and facing the rider said, 'O Allah! Do not make me like him.' The child then started to suck her breast again. (Abu Huraira further said, "As if I were now looking at the Prophet sucking his finger (in way of demonstration.") After a while the people passed by, with a lady slave and she (i.e. the child's mother) said, 'O Allah! Do not make my child like this (slave girl)!, On that the child left her breast and said, 'O Allah! Make me like her.' When she asked why, the child replied, 'The rider is one of the tyrants while this slave girl is falsely accused of theft and illegal sexual intercourse.” - Sahih al-Bukhari 3436
I also remind you, as an example, of an action of an early Muslim leader, Umar ibn al-Khatab, when he demoted a genius commander named Khalid ibn al-Walid to promote in his place Abu Ubayda ibn al-Jarrah, who was not superior to Khalid in a purely secular sense, but Abu Ubayda was one of the earliest Muslims, he embraced Islam a day after Abu Bakr, earlier than both Umar and Khalid, and he is one of “the ten to whom Paradise was promised”. Opinions differ as to why Umar made his decision, but many agree that Umar wanted to make sure that Muslims don't adopt a secular view of success. There are numerous factors of success, and we should prioritize the factors that Allah prioritizes.
There is an advise that I have learned from you brother Hamza that I hold dearly ever since I heard it. It is “to prioritize what Islam prioritizes”. In this context, I am wary of giving too much consideration to the secular trends of some of the youth, or the majority of youth. I think they (the youth) need to be taught to find the scholars rather than the scholars be taught to find the youth.
I conclude by a reminder that the success of dawah is not always reducible to how many believers or true followers of Islam there are, as The prophet peace be upon said, “Some nations were displayed before me. A prophet would pass in front of me with one man, and another with two men, and another with a group of people. and another with nobody with him” - Sahih al-Bukhari 5752. Nobody can do a better job of dawah than a prophet. Clearly, sometimes, neither the scholar nor the daee is the blameworthy.
I love you for the sake of Allah.
Assalamu Alaikum.
Glad to see the Thinking Muslim podcast in video format, excellent topic and discussion to start with. Hope to see a lot more of these in the future.
Hope to have you on Shaykh very soon inshallah - jazakallah khair for your kind words
@@TheThinkingMuslim in shaa Allah, looking forward to that
Definitely prefer this here 👍
Mashallah, internet has become asbaab to spread visuals and audios to each and every human habitation of globe, but at the same time it is felt that reverts to islam more true as compared to those who claim to have been hereditory muslim, however, one is free to dissent the instant perception.
Everytime I listen to Hamza I learn so much, and it opens my minds to new avenues to explore thoughts into different ideas
A refreshing thinker.
Humza is a great asset, amazing brother. I really like the Host , the way he add his points to the conversation when its required. The host is very good at directing the discussion while not overtaking it.
hAmza
I don't know why Hamza is an extremely relatable person to me, the easiest scholar so far even as a woman n as an empath I embrace these types of vibes, when I listen to him it's like the man of this earth as compare to most of the scholars n da'es i feel like they are aliens n not from here, so hard to relatable as a human being.
It's not a compliment it's a soul thing.
Maybe people here will agree with me?
Relatable !
I told my wife once that if I choose to have a role model Muslim or an ideal Muslim in the present times, Hamza comes in my mind. What a modest and humble person. Wise and practicing. Loving and Kind.
Totally get what you're saying. I feel the same. I guess Hamza represents the best qualities of a righteous person/Momin/human heart, and it's the reason why so many people find him relatable. May Allah bless him with more Imaan and Nur in his heart.
He is not a scholar. The term "scholar" should not be used lightly
With due respect to the work Hamza is doing, i think Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl is also a good scholar.
Wallahi Hamza Tzortzis is one of the most based men right now, may Allah keep him steadfast on his deen and increase his knowledge ameen
I think that achieving sincerity is the biggest struggle in life , because there's no reward from Allah without it .
The only muslim podcast i listen regularly is 5 pillars's blood brothers podcast.. this could be another muslim podcast i would listen regularly.. keep it up brother..
Barakallahu feek
On Br. Hamza's viewpoints regarding Andrew tate's qualities-It isn't obvious to me how one can receive a message positively, even if it is essentially good and all well-meaning, but is conveyed in a manner which is clearly opposite to what Quran has outlined. Is it possible for young people to look at good and bad separately when both are interwined? I think if one talks in a sensational voice without introspecting it, then it just elucidates the impression that he hasn't internalised his own message in the first place. The insistence on such voice being beneficial in any way seems incorrect.
Brother Hamza's logical and rational approach and the way he breaks things down and explains in granular detail is a delight. I have a short attention span but MashAllah you never get tired to listening to him.
note: your mics are a bit too good, picking a lot of background sounds.
So happy to see y’all made the shift to TH-cam and in a studio MA! Keep up the great work. I’ve been listening since Dr Jallals lecture series on Islam and liberalism way back in Covid 2020!
Jzk Brother Akif, May Allah accept from all of us
Alhamdulillah. Been waiting for this one
This channel is quit fruitful for Muslims I hope people reach this channel ❤ we need such content on social media
Hamza the O.G Top G!!!!
Alhamdulila ☝️
Great setting, clean, top quality.
Been waiting for this!!!! MashAllah enjoyed!!!
I absolutely love this podcast, and it makes me so happy to see this in video in a beautiful studio. Allah bless you brother Muhammad Jalal, and accept your contributions to guiding the Ummah.
The studio aesthetics is awesome btw.
Amazing episode, love the new studio and video style
This podcast was really helpful, Jzk Khayr. And studio looks beautiful, very classy! 👌
Great set up and angles. Top notch!
Really liked Hamza's position on Andrew Tate👍
Amazing🍀!!! Great conversation may Allah reward you!!🙌
Alhamdulillah so good to see the most underrated Islamic podcast finally on video! All the best moving forward ❤
Absolutely amazing talk full of well placed criticism and healthy new perspectiv. May Allh protect your iman brothers
Wonderful discussion. Jazak Allah khayr!
MashaAllah Jazakumullahu khayr
The part about transformational vs informational learning was eye opening. Allahuah Akhbar!
TbarkAllah, so happy to see my favourite podcast in video format!! Insightful and fascinating as usual!! May Allah reward you and the team for bringing it to us.
Jazakallah khair sister - thank you for your support.
The West needs Islam
Great show. Please keep inviting brilliant people like him and many others
High quality discussions with an uncompromising intellectual rigour. Please keep up the fantastic work ❤️
May Allah accept it from all
What ... I was told shayk christian prince called in was allowed to share Islaame . Yea bruhh what about islaaame? Check it out . They say don't think.
Did Hamza Tzortzis just say one of Andrew Tate's qualities is a commitment to "taking care of women" @1:05:05? Holy moly.........
He has made it publicly clear that this is what he advises men, its on some of his interviews ans videos, and he does that in his private life to many women. Yes, many of his other statements, especially before his conversion, have been terrible. But I must be just when I speak about people.
Typical comment from a disenfranchised beta male 😂
Yes. Andrew said to take good care of women. If you actually listened to him
Baaraka Allahu fiikum my brothers may Allah Ta’ala bless and protect you both
Quite enlightening MashaAllah
Absolute amazing.
Please get him back again on the podcast as and when possible.
Hopefully his intuitive answer would have some clear way forward as well.
Jzk Hamza bhai.
Jazakallah to all supporting the thinking Muslim channel, the substantive eye opening talks are a very welcome.e breath of mental fresh air....
Fabulous ; and a very relevant discussion !
Awesome ambience 😊
You're a fantastic interviewer. Maa shaa Allah. Keep it up!
Enjoyed the conversation and appreciated the intellectual honesty and transparency.
Not sure I totally agree with the discourse on misogyny, however certainly has provided food for thought.
Well done!
Wonderful episode, thank you !
Masha Allah great interview brothers. Many interesting points discussed.
it was a great discussion and really informative . May Allah swt help you both and give you people jaza e khair . Respect from Pakistan
I pray Allah SWT bless this initiative
Alhamdulillah this was sent to me by my Sheikh so I’m locked in and can’t wait to hear this discussion
With his understanding of the acts of I'badat; of the misinterpretation, or false understanding of Misogyny and Patriarchy, Shaykh Hamza A. Tzortzis is a genius, like no other. His treatment of Brother Andrew Tate is distinct. His critique of colonizing the Prophet's modus operandi to the modern-day trend of CHOICE is striking.
May he shine brighter; rise higher! Amen!
Subhan'Allah!
You discussed Pakistan, what do you think of newer schools of thought in the region like Mr. Ghamdi. A significant number of young population follows him and his core ideas with critical replies are present on his channel with English subtitles. He has some new ideas regarding the methodology of fiqh, though in no way they can be termed modernist imo. Would love to hear your or your team's opinion on that Hamza.
As always, you come across as genuine, may Allaah grant us and you steadfastness :)
I love this podcast ❤ thank you for bringing amazing people to talk about almost every topic
00:57:37 Hamza's view on Andrew tate
01:14:40 top 5 Curriculum for young muslim men
Great video. A point to note that the Ads on these shows are quite problematic. Some very innapropriate ads appear mid video which is very disturbing. The team needs to be aware of this.
Hmmm
Amazing discussion!
I'd love to listen The Thinking Muslim podscast. I've downloaded the app. And just now I saw the vedio on TH-cam. Glad to join it.
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
Another in-depth thoughtful discussion I didn’t think I had the time or focus to listen to
Always feel humbled listening to Hamzas knowledge. Awakens the deep need for study and the pursuit of knowledge within me
One thing that needs to be spoken about is social media, is highly problematic in the sense we can't see body language, it dumbs down EQ. Hence the arguments etc. By looking at someone's body language you'll know how to approach and if you should approach them.
This was absolutely fantastic. Hamza comes across really well mashAllah to discuss and convey in this manner. This is exactly how we should conduct ourselves in a discussion. His points on Andrew tate were just 👌🏻
Masha allah, a good interviewer and a great guest.
I really appreciate brother Hamza Tzortzis may Allah grant him his Rahma. But I think he is wrong in this matter.
This idea of "hierarchy" is based upon the assumption that the protective role of men is inherently superior to the guardianship role of women as the Quran describes it. This is not necessarily true. A man need his wife emotional support and feminine attributes to face the hardships of the external world. A woman need the physical protection, force and masculine attributes of her husband to be happpy and safe; only then she will be an emotional support for the family.
See, this is the trap in which many falls in. We need to accepts that God create us equal in dignity, but different in roles. If there is a hierarchy, this hierarchy can be only temporary, depending on the situation.
And Allah knows best.
May Allah Bless & protect Imam Hamza Tzortzis 🤲
28:00 It's so true, some people in the dawa community are doing too much to come across as dominant and masculine. This pseudo masculinity comes across as performative and very off-putting. I worry it is harming the da'wa effort.
Exellent podcast. May Allah preserve the thinking Muslim, amern
Excellent podcast with Humza
Hamza is wise brother with so much ikhlas he’s a better Muslim than me
Educating and beautiful. Maashallah
May Allah rewards you.
As a muslim feminist myself the problem is both sides,just like you say scholars not teaching men to be masculine we can also say scholars are not teaching islam fairly for girls to love the islamic way of being a woman either,its just not possible to teach girls is that all she must do is sit at home and look after and obey her husband while he can have 4 wives he doesnt even need to have the respect to tell her about and shes forbidden from achieving anything in life for herself if her husband says no and if she is disobedient to him he can miswakbeat her otherwise she is a feminist....this is all i learnt from madressa marriage is like for women.Where do you ever hear scholars teach quran (42:38) "the believing men and women conduct their affairs by mutual consultation" apparently they made this verse mustahab lol
so no matter how kind you are to women they want to do something fulfilling for herself other than always looking after others which im not saying she musnt just not all the time its 2023...untill this is taught most girls are going to go the khadija ra way from young ages because islam for her the other way is just not appealing either.Just like boys find the high value man top G man best likewise women find khadija ra the top G'ess lol of females best to strive for.
We have scholars teaching a woman cant visit her own parents if the husband says no,
Scholars teaching women are basically dogs that men do not even have to consult us when they take other wives and then you have muslim men throwing that down our throats l,ofcourse then muslim girls going to combat that to say its not my duty then cook or do anything in islam where does it say that either.......If they taught consultation i think more women would be happier to want to be stay at home wives.I never heard 1 scholar tell boys being qawwaam does not mean you can tell your wife she cant leave the house when you going everywhere and not consulting her also,the fairness factor for me seems to be missing in the way scholars teach islam today that makes women want to go the other way.....
Another big issue that no one is addressing is regarding giving your wife a savings if shes not working,our fathers want us to be financially ok in the case of divorce,why isnt anyone addressing the divorce issues and so many women fighting for maintenance.....its easy to say women should want to sit at home but what about the money issue,no one wants to know they dont have any savings if things go south,this is a hard pill to swollow for men but this is what is causing the issue,which woman will work a hard days job if she was fully convinced in divorce she would be financially well off,why should she go ask her father and brothers for money now that shes divorced when she could have worked and saved and looked after ger husband...Believe it or not this is the exact reason women working.
jsut avoid marrying practicing muslim men, simple.
Spot on !
@Where exactly did Allah says thats haraam?
"the islamic way of being a woman"? Is there just one way of being a woman in Islam? What is this "the" that you've used?
@@paulthomas281 whats not haraam?
@@thetruth27786 Is abandoning the guardianship system haraam?
Hamza mashallah have that prophetic softness and sensitivity and vulnerability may Allah bless always he is a beacon of hope to thousands of young Muslims I want my child to be like hamza truly
Great talk. How can we learn applied akidah? Most of akidah books are classic text as he mentioned. Can you provide some resources?
Amazing
This hamza changed my life . May allah reunite you both in Jannatul firdaws . A great podcast ❤
Inshallah all of us. Ameen
good dialog Hamza
Solid interview. We wrote the book on masculinity.
MashaAllah
If I had an input in a curriculum I'd want to make sure the youth understand baraqah of time and routine.
While I recommend physical fitness and martial arts for Muslim men, I must mention that hitting the face is Haram according to many scholars, because The Prophet peace be upon him said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face." - Sahih al-Bukhari 2559. Therefore, I don't recommend kickboxing for this particular reason. I conclude by reminding myself and the believing Muslim men and women to always be near scholars to receive knowledge and ask questions. Those who are closer to scholars are likelier to be guided than those who are closer to social media stars; and Allah knows best.
Waalikumassalam
Hamza is a breath of fresh air, none of this disingenious BS of some of his peers
Hamza's advice to Andrew is so perfect for anyone looking to start or return to their journey to Allah. someone ready to flee to Allah.
Brother Hamza is the person that I see as the top young contemporary scholar. There are so many "scholars" running around all over the place but one feels an intense repulsion from them because they are so ego-driven, self-righteous and belligerant. This brother is wise and humble and represents the best qualities of a Momin which is "Taqwa".
May Allah give us all the prophetic character.
@@TheThinkingMuslim Ameen!
What is an " HT background '? Can I make a heartfelt request please that when smattering ones speech with Arabic words and phrases to also use the English? So many new reverts are turned away from knowledge by this exclusion.
Jzazakallah khair this is an excellent point and we shall remind ourselves to ask for clarification in future interviews. In this case HT is an Islamic group called Hizb ut-Tahir.
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In this discussion Hamza was talking about how the term Akh right is disgusting because it supposedly insinuates that leftist discourse is correct. I don't see how it insinuates this considering you can be against both left and right. Hamza himself was accusing certain Muslims of adopting leftist discourse but that doesn't mean he is adopting akh right narrative so I think he is being inconsistent.
Calling a Muslim who is not right wing "akh right" is a form of insult. The leftist Muslims who I label as such agree they are left leaning. There is no inconsistency.
Please make it downloadable
You can download the audio on apple or Spotify inshallah
6:12 lol i think he knew more then me at this age,
And that’s good a way to learn also
40:24 so good ❤
17:11 what is an HT background
Hizbut Tahrir movement look it up on Wikipedia
Too many buzzwords in the way this man talks. If he wants to be clear then he should use the words clearly.
Muslim women work and want to be khadijas because we dont get anything in divorce after the iddat period.Its a safety net.That being said im not saying women must not also take care of things in thr home.Islam does not say earning is haraam.Bitter pill to swollow for muslim men.If you not going to give your wife a salary if shes not working to save, feminism will never go away
This is the real life proof of lack of faith. If you decide to marry a good man which is working why dont you trust him and Im sure any good man who is responsible never will let down his family.
Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The False Messiah will come upon this marsh of Marriqanat. Most of those who go out to him will be women, until a man goes back to his wife, his mother, his daughter, his sister, and his aunt to shackle them tightly, fearing they would go out to him.”
Source: Musnad Aḥmad 5353
I think you trying to make extreme case scenarios and want laws to be based on this.
For example if man doesn't take care of women and fulfill her basic necessities, women can get divorce from him by approaching Qadhi. Ofcourse before taking divorce you take all necessary steps to save marriage.
@@MZD15ok so she divorced the guy then what now? He took away her earning years.
@@enlightenlife2840 she gets to keep her Mahr given during marriage. This is why Mahr is prescribed. It's a security to Women.
@@MZD15 thats if the guy would actually give good maht, men complain when women ask for a high mahr. They call women gold diggers also use the hadith that says aess costly marriage is the blessed one. I ahev not seen 1 Muslim women with a good mahr let alone a great one that would be of help to her in her life. We need to be realistic and look at things from a logical perspective. Meb hate logic and will wake up to reality when thery have daughters lol.
1:11:07
Thought It was a discussion between Hamza Tzortzis and Matt Walsh.
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it would be nice if you addressed the hatred against women and why feminism is a thing in the first place. very one sided this
Thank you for your comment. I think this is certainly worth talking about in a future episode.
If the idea that we own ourselves is subjective and whacky, the notion that Allah is the one who owns us is hyper-hyper-hyper-subjective among other things? The latter should have nothing to do with societal rules.
But we can prove with rational and logical arguments that God exists and he's the ultimate creator and Sustainer of everything.
asalaam alaikum, thank you for these discussions (I'm subscribed under a secondary account for political reasons, primarily my support of Palestinian liberation). I believe it would be a step towards a more decolonized understanding of the Qur'an to understand that Allah has no gender, as Allah is both Creator and all creation, with no equal or counterpart. The Prophet (PBUH) was and is indeed a man, but English has many of us using the word "he" in the place of Allah. It feels like the Judeo-Christian conception of "god" every time we use the incorrect term "he" to refer to Allah, and can evoke conceptions of some Zeus-like figure, which is an abstraction, and only helps the liberal inquisition's propaganda and characterization of Islam as patriarchal. The term "pater familia" comes from Latin, hence patriarchy... for example, a Roman's daughters would be named according to the father's family, so a member of Julius Caesar's clan's daughters would be known as Julia I, Julia II, Julia III etc. That is the original patriarchy and its subsequent imperialist regime that attacked/colonized Africans and Arabs, and its civic model of society still persecutes and criminalizes Muslims to this day by its most explicit embodiment today, Amerikkka).
This is a long post that is going to piss off both sides of this fiasco except for those who are balanced and fair. It’s basically going to piss off everyone. But that’s never stopped me before.
I haven’t commented on Andrew Tate in a few months now. I decided to take a wait-and-see approach and I have sincerely made duʿā for his guidance. Though he was truly a vile person who said despicable things, every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. He deserves a chance.
And in waiting and seeing, what I realized is that neither side is going to change their minds. He gets out of jail and the first thing he says is that he focused on push-ups and reading the Qur’ān. Rather than appreciating that overture, his blind haters either ignored it or belittled it. And just a week ago he’s surrounded by pork pepperoni pizzas, and his blind supporters bleat the same old “Just give him time”. [He responded to that video saying his slice didn’t have pepperoni on it. He shouldn’t be sitting with 12 boxes of pork-covered pizza, but as Muslims, we can’t accuse him of doing something he says he didn’t do. Recall the Hadīth in Bukhārī where Jesus says (آمَنْتُ باللَّهِ، وَكَذَّبْتُ عَيْنِي)]
No one is going to approach this with any semblance of objectivity or balance. His blind fans can’t acknowledge he’s a screw-up who has a long way to go, and his blind haters can’t acknowledge that he’s trying to not be a screw-up anymore. So, it’s all a big waste of time. Of course, for grifters who want to ride on Tate’s coat-tails for clout, it’s a prime opportunity like no other. Watching them is an exercise in masochism. It’s utterly disgusting.
And, frankly, this is all B.S. to me, and it all really chaps my hide. You know why? Let me re-direct this stupid issue to something that SHOULD be of greater concern: How we treat less glamorous converts who DON’T drive Bugatti’s. Because every single time someone I know has converted to Islām locally, I have to struggle to get them any support in the community. They don’t get a billion followers from Lahore, Delhi, and Chittagong on social media. They don’t get throngs of admirers bleating “Give him a chance” every time they make a mistake. Especially if they’re Black.
And it not only infuriates me to say that, it EMBARRASSES me. I know one brother whom I’ve asked several people, Imāms and laity alike, to help. Not a SINGLE ONE has bothered to even call the brother once in a while to ask how he’s doing. Every time I talk to the brother, I ask him, “Did so-and-so reach out to you?” And the answer is always “No.” And what’s worse, he makes excuses for THEM saying, “They’re probably really busy.”
In another case, a homeless person to whom I was giving Daʿwah to embraced Islām. I did everything I could to get him on his feet, but I’m one person, not a foundation. I tried to get a local Muslim organization to help him financially. He had a pending misdemeanor on his record so they refused. He was humiliated and felt extremely judged and disappeared. I never heard from him again and I doubt he’s still Muslim. Later on, I found out he won the misdemeanor case and was found innocent. He didn’t get any excuses or “just give him time.” He got a middle finger from us.
If you’re any of the people I asked to help that brother and you didn’t, or if you’re from the organization that turned the homeless brother away and likely caused his abandoning of Islām, I don’t care if reading this burns. I hope it does! I am sick and tired of being the only point of contact for all these converts because embracing Islām is supposed to be admission into this wonderful Ummah, this COMMUNITY.
So spare me your obsessive whining over some multi-millionaire who made his fortune off of denigrating women and then decided to embrace Islām because it gives men authority over women. Thats according to his own repeated admission. And that’s not why anyone should embrace Islām to begin with but…whatever. He’s Muslim and I believe he’s sincere in that and I pray he’s able to respect women as Allāh commands (وَعَاشِرُوهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ [النساء:19]) and become an instrument for the Haqq.
I just wish y’all obsessed over the working class Hispanic or Black convert who drives a beat-up 2000 Honda Civic and converted to Islām because they realized Allāh is One with the same passion you obsess over this guy whom you’ll probably never be within 100 feet of in your life.
In summary: May Allāh guide Andrew Tate and make him successful as a result of embracing al-Islām. And May Allāh guide us all to get our priorities straight and start treating less glamorous converts with the same ardor and zeal. Amīn.
Because those unnoticed and unnoticeable converts are the future of Islām in this country. Immigrants and the handful of millionaires they fawn over are not. -Shibli Zaman
Allah bless you for trying to help that homeless person and Allah guide the muslims. everything u said is so true
Thank you for saying this, truly. Going through these comments I felt like I was the only one who shares your view. My imaan is low right now and I’m working on restoring it. I clicked on this video because I thought maybe these guys share my view on these topics. I kid you not right now I feel even worse about my imaan and I hate this feeling. Acting like Tate hasn’t been denigrating women together with his brother, how he made money off innocent girls. It’s making me sick that muslims are defending this piece of crap. Thank you for all your efforts in your community and stay strong!!
@@user-nn6mv8jt3iall these Dae's are on sunni salafist cusp which disrespect women and hates the guys of anything positive in the ummah lol. Stay away from dae's and tradition scholars. Go for Islamic 'thinkers' a giant genius exists called Mohamed shahrour.
No one is asking Muslim women what they think of AT. AWFUL.There is so much information about spiritual practice for Muslim men on TH-cam. I don't know all these words what is the supplication before fajr. Where do I find it ?
Bc women are considered as objects
Go for Islamic thinkers such as the laye genius Mohamed shahrour. His work on Islam and women is mind blowing. He's the greatest scholar/thinker in the history of Islam.
What ethnicity is brother Hamza
So women will have a "sense of well-being", as Hamza put it, by being dependents? And what is his view on the guardianship system?
humans are by nature interdependant. It is in our ability to trust and depend that helps us thrive. It is ideal for a woman to trust and depend on her man if he is trustworthy, and vice versa.
@@boygenius538_8 Do you know what "dependent" even means? And what is your view of the guardianship system.
@@paulthomas281 I think he explained it clearly. What are you trying to imply really? Allah has ordained guardianship under Men and the World has gone far from the natural way of life especially under West.
@@ggggg3459 Really? So why are women across the MENA largely opposed to the guardianship system then? Don't you think you need to question your assumptions every now and then? You do realise that insisting on Sunni Islamic dogma is leading to the death of the religion, don't you?
@@ggggg3459 And the natural way of life? Hmmmm... Women in the ancient Nabatean Arab religion occupied high functions in the religious, ritual, and social order. Was that unnatural?
lol for a moment i thought that was Matt Walsh , my bad !
Please bring on firas zahabi please maybe even few people together