Marlin 45-70 vs Henry 45-70

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  • Marlin and Henry 45-70 Lever Actions go head to head here on ITW Firearms!
    Huge thanks to Cade Colburn for bringing his Marlin and plenty of ammo! Also thanks for your take and knowledge on the systems/ cartridges.
    Intro
    Ammo 02:08
    First Shot 03:00
    The Marlin 05:44
    M1 Garand Cameo 15:40
    Back to 45-70 16:06
    Review 17:45
    Pick up your brass 22:15
    Outro 22:33
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  • @patgreen3487
    @patgreen3487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I have a Marlin 45-70 made in 1981.I love it.

  • @slypperyfox
    @slypperyfox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My dad bought a Marlin Guide gun in .45-70 and went through all the ‘rigamarole’ with mounting a red dot on it and we took it to his river camp to site it in about 4 years ago. He took one shot then unloaded it and boxed it backup. I asked if it was sited in and he said it was sited in enough. Later when I pushed him on it he said that nothing in their neck’a da woods needed that much killing. He was 85 yo at the time and this is a guy who bought ~ 3 .357 and ~ 3 .44 Mag revolvers/year. He started getting into reloading ~ same time (mid to late ‘60s) and that’s what I grew up listening to as we lived on a large spread on a newly developed lake. I bought a new Henry Golden Boy lever in .45-70 which came stock with ladder sites and I elected to stick with the ladder sites for plinking (yes, I said I plink with .45-70). The exaggerated crescent butt plate doesn’t leave much room for a soft rubber butt plate but that’s OK. On the rifle team 45-50 years ago I used a steel butt hook for kneeling and standing positions (HS and collegiate) but that was with .22LR.

    • @Tomles86
      @Tomles86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I thought this story was going to have a point

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tomles86 It has. .45-70 has a substantial amount of recoil. His dads tale was a cautionary one of try the recoil before you commit to buying the rifle and only shoot it once.

  • @user-cg1ni7ub9i
    @user-cg1ni7ub9i วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being 74 years old I picked up the Marlin 39A in 22 cal. And put a 2-7 power scope on it and with Stingers I could hit tree squirrels at 100 yards in the head all day long. The Micro groves rifling makes it unbelievably accurate. I also inherited from my Dad 25 years ago the Marlin 45-70 I had the barrel cut a bit and put the larger level action hoop . When I moved to Alaska I bought the stainless Marlin in 45-70 which I carry in my boat, patrolling the shore for Moose. I did buy my oldest Son the Henry 22 rifle for his 16th Birthday. I also inherited a Winchester in the 405 caliber that is the same rifle Winchester made for Teddy Rosevelt that he took many African animals.

  • @bobpatty2937
    @bobpatty2937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I own a 1886 Browning 45/70 saddle ring carbine that holds 8 rounds. Vernier sights make it a 400 yard gun. Made in Belgium.

    • @Tonyblaine73
      @Tonyblaine73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Now you're talking!

    • @racerx6384
      @racerx6384 หลายเดือนก่อน

      45/70 400 yards I don't believe it.

    • @brucestarry6479
      @brucestarry6479 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sights do not make anytbing a 400 yard gun. Hitting shit at 400 yards makes a 400 yard gun. Id pay $1000 to see anybody hit vitals at 400 yards shooting offhand with iron sights. Not benchrest with gun holder.

    • @MTLeadSlanger
      @MTLeadSlanger 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@racerx6384Really? You know people shoot black powder 45-70 at 1000 yards all the time right?

    • @racerx6384
      @racerx6384 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MTLeadSlanger sure aiming 16 feet high above the target. Zero is at 200 yards and skilled shots are shooting accurately at 300 yards. At 1000 yards it's lost half its speed. It's easier to shoot out at 1000 yards with alot of other rifles. Sure its possible but this people do this all the time back in the day. There's a difference between theoretically possible and not a problem. Selecting this round for that range is picking the wrong tool for the job.

  • @Tonyblaine73
    @Tonyblaine73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I prefer the Marlin but to be fair now you can get the Ruger made Marlin in blued steel and wood stocks so visually the guns would be more equal. I own Marlin and Henry lever guns and both are great.

  • @CapoKabar
    @CapoKabar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You dont ever appreciate a Henry until your Marlin jams - Jerry Miculek

  • @Austinsairplanes
    @Austinsairplanes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    If your interested in buying a 45-70 and reloading for it, don't bother reloading the hornady ftx brass, the brass is softer than starline cases and i had a hard time getting the bullets crimp securely in the hornady cases.

    • @johngilley3518
      @johngilley3518 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks, I did not know that.

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There is no! substitute for Starline Brass!

    • @Banjoandguns
      @Banjoandguns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All hornady cases are junk

    • @kerryddepew674
      @kerryddepew674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I have not found any starline brass other than in loaded ammo since the (D)eceiver was installed in 2020 "election", both of those rifles pale in comparison to the winchester 1886.

    • @steverobbins8661
      @steverobbins8661 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also i found that hornady cut the brass like 70 thou shorter than trim length on the 325 grn ftx loads. Just an observation. Haven't loaded them yet. Will most likely get something else for brass. The 325 loads do shoot well from my henry all weather and my marlin cowboy

  • @garyh1449
    @garyh1449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I find this a comparison of "that" Henry and "that" Marlin. Marlin makes a rifle that would compare more closely to that Henry ( the 1895). I think the Henry sights sticks out like a sore thumb.

  • @seventeen912
    @seventeen912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We do know Henry manufactures an (All Weather) version that is literally identical to the Marlin trapper. Like they said, it is all about personal preference.

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Good video!.. Your comparison leaves me in admiration of the Marlin! Maybe less traditional but it is 2024 and lever guns are still 💯Traditional

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The Henry “choice” loading system is better in my opinion. And the steel receiver and color case hardened receiver of the Henry is beautiful. I also like the 22 inch barrel length. And the transfer bar safety is great.

    • @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead
      @JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, but most Henry’s available in gun shops, don’t have the loading gate. That said, I would never choose to load in the tube near the muzzle. It’s a dumb, horrible design choice to begin with. Having to put your hand up near there most dangerous part of a gun, to reload.

    • @jeffreylocke8808
      @jeffreylocke8808 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead you don’t have to load it from the tube with the side charging port on the receiver. But you can tip it forward after pulling out the tube and all the cartridges fall out. So wait and get a Henry with both a charging gate and brass tube load/ unload ability.

    • @davidfreeman2522
      @davidfreeman2522 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@jeffreylocke8808 since ruger started building the marlin .you can unload it from the gate easily.

  • @TheReelDeal57
    @TheReelDeal57 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    That is not a composite stock on the Marlin that is a laminated wood stock. I think some people may be confused when you said twice that it was a composite stock it is wood.

    • @TheReelDeal57
      @TheReelDeal57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Aranck-kcnarA actually I built, custom stocks and eliminated stock is wood primarily, you can’t really count epoxy as a composite material it’s a bonding agent

    • @oldredcoonhound2182
      @oldredcoonhound2182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sights are a peep sight, and a Buckhorn

    • @chrislukasak8530
      @chrislukasak8530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you call plywood a composite? No. Noone does.

    • @chrislukasak8530
      @chrislukasak8530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @Aranck-kcnarA I've been a home builder for 30 years. Never once have I, or anyone I know called plywood " composite". Is it technically correct? Maybe. Colloquially? Nope.

    • @user-jt4iy5pl2b
      @user-jt4iy5pl2b 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      marlin is twice the rifle a henry is henry action sucks as does the trigger the tube magazine is a joke on a henry

  • @garyk76
    @garyk76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That Henry is a better looking rifle imo

    • @Bravebelly
      @Bravebelly 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

  • @bd8997
    @bd8997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Love my lever guns, both are nice rifles! Great shooting and review.

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Victor-rg1ud
      @Victor-rg1ud 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do you feel that you need 3 safetys on your marlin?

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Henry, winchester, and marlin all make 45-70 rifles. And they are very well made. Mine is a henry and its accurate and very smooth. I have a 1-5 leupold scope. Very easy a 200 yard bid game rifle. I like the 20" barrel. God bless awsome video😊😊

    • @blakehernandez3929
      @blakehernandez3929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Winchester makes em in Japan and they have a stupid little tang safety on em if your into that 🤷‍♂️ I don’t like em

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great testing location...😍 Much more traditional than some municipal range 🙈

  • @michaelpond6386
    @michaelpond6386 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I used to sell both of these. The Marlin pre Ruger had a very stiff action. Henry was always smooth and easy.

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Correct ammundo! However, Having sold both, I have to give the Ruger built Marlins a very slight edge. Not enough to justify the price difference though.

    • @joeellis2692
      @joeellis2692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@mrgunsnbeer5349 I'd give Henry the edge. Henry hasn't lost any quality throughout the years. Marlin most definitely has. Now that ruger owns Marlin, I honestly thought they were going with the same safety as Henry and the ruger revolvers. Nope but apparently the quality went up along with price and kept that stupid safety bar.

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, I am also in firearms sales and as much as it pains me to admit it, the Ruger Marlins might be a bit smoother than a Henry. I still think the Henry is a consistantly better rifle.

    • @GLOCKCOPG23
      @GLOCKCOPG23 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I must just have bad luck I guess. I’ve had two Henry 30-30 levers and one went back for feed jams on Win 170 gr of all things!!! I am very handy and could not tinker the problem away. The other rifle was very gritty on the front stroke. Upon internal inspection there were burs that should not be there. A fine stone took care of it. Both rifles gone now. The gun shop clerk (a friend) said that Henry QC is iffy sometimes. They are the American equivalent of Taurus in my opinion. You may get a good one, you may not. Good thing their warranty is so good because like Taurus, you may need it. I’m done with them. Never had a problem with my old Marlins. Lesson learned. Never owned a new Ruger/Marlin but I have had range time with a couple and they are extraordinarily nice rifles but with a tough price tag. My older Marlins will just have to continue to feed my “lever love” and I’m not complaining. They are great rifles which are not going anywhere…but the deer/hog stand.

    • @splithoof9567
      @splithoof9567 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The pre-Ruger Marlins were mostly junk. Ill-fitted barrels, loose sights, rough actions, feeding issues, and some were extremely hard to fully load. Ruger fixed all that, and more.

  • @johnrush7699
    @johnrush7699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As you said in the video it's a matter of preference, and in my opinion I believe that I will stick with the Henry. I have the Henry 22 and the Henry big boy 357 and now after seeing this video I believe that I just might invest in the Henry 45/70 to add to my collection. As for you Marlin fans, I'm not taking nothing away from the Marlin, I just love the Henry rifle

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As a Gunsmith and salesman I will say that for price versus performance, Henry will win, every time. As for customer service? No one beats Henry!

  • @cheeseymccheese7249
    @cheeseymccheese7249 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should have Cade Colburn on your channel more. Maybe collaborate a bunch of projects together. Something about him, hes good on the camera and can tell he has a ton of knowledge

  • @jamesbell8496
    @jamesbell8496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Really enjoyed the video. I love the levers.
    Cheers, fellas

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our pleasure!

  • @user-hk8ns6pe5x
    @user-hk8ns6pe5x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the 45-70, I have the Marlin Guide Gun, 45-70, synthetic and stainless. Great video.

  • @toddk1377
    @toddk1377 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like the new Marlins. That SBL model is what I want, I like the henry rifles, but there's just something about that marlin that is calling my name!!

  • @beardedrockinhillbilly
    @beardedrockinhillbilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like both of the modern versions of the Henrys with loading gates and Ruger manufactured Marlins. I have a chambering in each brand and will probably get others. Some models of both brands have threaded barrels, and I like that feature on them as well.

  • @rogerramjet7567
    @rogerramjet7567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Henry is absolutely the best value. Today, that does matter !! Very well made in the USA. 😀

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agreed!

    • @Tonyblaine73
      @Tonyblaine73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made in America or not at all!

  • @PatriotRome
    @PatriotRome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Best comparison video I’ve seen of the two. Obsessing for one for months and been to look like 5 times so far. Only point I would add is the Marlin is 5+1 and the Henry is 4+1. A charging bear x nerves one more may save your life!

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for commenting! I’m glad you enjoyed. Great point about how many rds too

    • @slavazavalin
      @slavazavalin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Marlin: SBL model is 6+1 and the Trapper is 5+1

    • @denisdegamon8224
      @denisdegamon8224 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The one round difference is directly in regards to the barrel length. The longer barreled Henry's can load that extra round. Keep in mind the magazine under the barrel dictates the maximum number of rounds the rifle can handle.

    • @Tonyblaine73
      @Tonyblaine73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You would not need the extra round due to the speed of a charging bear.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@denisdegamon8224
      The marlin loads 5+1, Henry 4+1. Personal preference really.

  • @mikga45
    @mikga45 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    350 grain flat nose at 1900 fps kicks pretty good for a hand load.

  • @Kriss_L
    @Kriss_L 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My biggest complaint about lever actions is the buckhorn sight - I hate them. But I like how most of the new guns allow you to easily swap them out for a peep or ghost ring.

  • @frankbrumbeloe4827
    @frankbrumbeloe4827 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Marlin is without a doubt a stronger built rifle. My Henry "shot loose" the dovetail with too many heavy loads. Even bent the peg that holds the mag tube sleeve in place. Marlin no issues, even after I had it bored and worked up to 50 Alaskan. Not even close...

    • @TrapperScottyAlaskan
      @TrapperScottyAlaskan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      50 Alaskan ? Tell me more

    • @frankbrumbeloe4827
      @frankbrumbeloe4827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@TrapperScottyAlaskan
      540gr hardcast 1885fps. Over 4,000 lb/ft energy.
      Buffalo Bore sells commercially. I load my own.
      That round from an 18 inch Marlin is a show stopper.

  • @ericrachal-hi9hy
    @ericrachal-hi9hy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They make marlin in blued long bbl and short bbl....stainless in long bbl and short bbl

  • @1976smb
    @1976smb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Because I couldn't afford the Marlin, I bought the Henry Friday. Colburn was very nice about the Henry; of course, the Marlin costs more, so no surprise the action is better. My 45-70 is also a carbine. I know it is fanfare, but imagine Henry and Marlin collaborating on a rifle! If you are laying a tarp, you don't need to pick up your brass.

  • @aaronsanborn4291
    @aaronsanborn4291 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'd go with the Henry...I prefer wood stocks and blued steel

    • @Ohyouknowbro
      @Ohyouknowbro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Marlin is wood too

    • @Kriss_L
      @Kriss_L 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marlin has a tradiational blued and wood version. Probably depends more on how much time you'll spend in wet weather as to which would be better.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marlin has a wood stock it's laminated. Just like a Boyds stock, looks better, stronger, and is more.weather resistant than the traditional walnut stocks.

  • @12B0692
    @12B0692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My only experience with this cartridge is through a friend's Thompson single shot pistol with optic. It's insane. I've always been interested in getting a lever gun chambered in .45-70. I have owned several Marlins (all older) and have a favorable opinion of the company.

  • @paullyon-vv9tb
    @paullyon-vv9tb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My brother and I both have a Henry and a Marlin Henry is great great looking but in the field we both like the MARLIN BETTER.👍ours have the 24inh,barrels

  • @shadetreemech290
    @shadetreemech290 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought that Marlin over the Henry in 30-30 Just as Marlin (Remington) went out of business. I still have the gun in the original box with the warranty card and nowhere to send it to. And yes I had problems with it. The walnut stock warped and cracked as it was not aged properly aged. But, over time it has come back to straight, more or less. I've never shot it.

  • @mrgunsnbeer5349
    @mrgunsnbeer5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think you boys have both overlooked the main differeence between the two. Price. The Henry is nearly half the price of a Ruger built Marlin. A huge consideration for most shooters!

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Definitely not. Comparable in price. Around $1200-1400 for both

    • @karlstaton6619
      @karlstaton6619 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@ITW.Firearms wtf henry big boy is available at Walmart sportsman's warehouse Rural king, Cabelas and bas pro for $980

    • @karlstaton6619
      @karlstaton6619 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And marlin runs 1400ish if you can find one

  • @jamesbell8496
    @jamesbell8496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I recently picked up a Rossi R95 chambered in 30-30. To see this rifle in person is stunning.
    Check one out.
    Cheers again

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can’t wait to get a Rossi on the channel

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do either one of these guys know how to put the hammer on the Marlin in the half cock position? It looks like they’re both lowering the hammer onto the firing pin but maybe it’s just the camera angle.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chipsterb4946
      Henry doesn't have a half cock position, there's a transfer bar safety in place this don't need it. Not sure about the Marlin though.

  • @marcielindustries9225
    @marcielindustries9225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both are awesome. Personally, the Marlin looks better, just like on my shotguns. I prefer the mag tube to run to the end of the barrel.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loading lever actions you don’t push the cartridge through the gate until it disappears, you leave the head out and follow it with another cartridge.

  • @Ohyouknowbro
    @Ohyouknowbro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really like the guns, probably the marlin more but that said...
    That Spam shirt homie is rocking is straight 🔥

  • @RifeDEFFilms
    @RifeDEFFilms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your content. I’ve owned the Henry, Marlin and browning lever 45/70’s all with 18-20 barrel length. As far as ergonomics and esthetics I like the Marlin.. But when it comes to Max/ +P loads.. The design of the Browning bolt, action rail and chamber lug lock up fitment and density is far more stable and solid than the Marlin and Henry designs. While there is nothing wrong with marlins design for standard operation loads or even “standard” + P loads… Hornady Leverlution and Underwood Ammo “+P heavies should be avoided. Where Browning can handle the hottest 45/70 and 450 Marlin loads with ease as the chamber is rated for 65k psi rumor has it the action was tested to 90K PSI without suffering a bolt/ chamber lockup failure.

  • @gregmcelhattan6982
    @gregmcelhattan6982 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a small lever gun collection. Love them. I have a marlin 1895G with factory ported barrel. Has been a fantastic close quarter white tail Pennsylvania brush gun

  • @sonofursus
    @sonofursus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep. Marlin has very smooth action.

  • @jefff8106
    @jefff8106 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad to hear Ruger has improved the action. My Marlin action feels like it's full of sand and no amount of polishing seems to help much. Been looking at buying a Henry but may have to re-visit the Marlin. Well right up till you said safety. Don't get the safety on a lever gun. Seem sacrilegious.

    • @kevinbagwell4834
      @kevinbagwell4834 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A safety delete is made and doesn't cost much. Like you said, doesn't seem right to have a cross-bolt safety on a lever. Snapped on a deer and a bear before remembering the safety. Racking the lever again thinking it's a bad round, Deer got away, but, still had time for the bear.

  • @Jch79
    @Jch79 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I prefer the colors on the furniture and case hardening of the Henry, but the 'chunky' look to the Marlin is just cooler to me. Combine the two and I'll buy one :)

  • @rickykurtz516
    @rickykurtz516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Marlin is not composite it is laminate wood
    Ricky from IBM

    • @belt1974123
      @belt1974123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obviously some people do not know the difference. Performance wise the laminate is better. Stronger and less prone to change. Walnut is very nice and more traditional but not superior.

  • @dinkone7943
    @dinkone7943 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Marlin all the way

  • @angelotero7729
    @angelotero7729 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love Henry but the Marlin SBL got the Henry beat because it's 6+1 more rounds is a winner to me

  • @Steve-vx2xp
    @Steve-vx2xp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I run the marlin 45-70 cowboy action carbine it’s light fast especially out of the scabbard when I’m on my horse mainly for grizzly Defense very slim lightweight version with octagon barrel warning it does kick hard With the hard cast bear loads and no recoil pad

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What kind of ammo do you run?
      Thanks for sharing

    • @Steve-vx2xp
      @Steve-vx2xp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ITW.Firearms hsm bear loads when packing.
      Winchester and federal for just shooting

    • @Steve-vx2xp
      @Steve-vx2xp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ITW.Firearms I definitely run into my share of grizzlies here in Alaska

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Anything would!

    • @steverobbins8661
      @steverobbins8661 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the cowboy as well. A jm from when marlin was still marlin. I love it but you are right. I shoot hot stuff in it and it beats my ass a little lol

  • @davidazar9090
    @davidazar9090 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Comparing two similar firearms, and we're nearing the end of the video. There's been no mention of group size (accuracy), nor trigger pull.
    For me, the two most important aspects with regard to gun selection.

  • @sixshooter4570
    @sixshooter4570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice comparison, you can always slick up that action if you know what you're doing, it's not difficult.
    Check for a sharp edge on the lever where it feeds the cartridge.
    I purchased a new Marlin 1894, JM stamped, CBC, cowboy competition in .45 colt.
    It locked up on the first round due to a sharp edge, I used a 1000 grit stone to put a 1/64 radius on the lever and solved the issue, it's a really slick action now.

    • @kevinbagwell4834
      @kevinbagwell4834 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For those that don't feel they can do as you did, just rub on some lapping compound to all the working parts in the action with a q-tip and work the action while sitting around watching t.v. or whatever.
      Spray it out with a cleaner and lube it, it helps a lot and anybody can do it.

  • @fletchsnyder
    @fletchsnyder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Marlin made this in case hardened with Walnut wood stock, I would be down with it over the Henery. Not taking anything away from the Henery, but I like the shorter barrel for my preference also I think the loop lever is larger on the Marlin, which I like. I like the looks of the Henery better and I think Marlin needs to add a more traditional look to their line up on this gun with the case hardened steel vs their standard blued with the wood stock.

    • @ethanamldon5657
      @ethanamldon5657 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they do make it with those options

  • @marktwain2053
    @marktwain2053 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very little difference in price for comparable models, but the Marlin has a slight edge in strength.

    • @hiltonlouque1504
      @hiltonlouque1504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have to have bad vision if you think the Henry is better looking than a SBL RugerMarlin 45-70! Sorry if I'm bias!

  • @jeffersonkendrick4570
    @jeffersonkendrick4570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use use raised, Leupold, shoot through 1 inch scope rings atop the lever rail. You can use Peep sight or scope with scope mounted.

  • @shot9702
    @shot9702 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From a strictly looks perspective, I'd take the Henry. I love walnut stocks and blued steel. For use as a guide gun, I prefer the Marlin. The stainless steel resists the impact of the elements better, and the shorter barrel makes the Marlin a bit handier. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

  • @wizard0fozark
    @wizard0fozark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fun video, thanks boys. ps I run a red dot on my lever gun and i LOVE it ;)

  • @181sonny
    @181sonny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You lost me at the bullet arc's. Bullets NEVER arc. They leave the barrel and drop accordingly.

    • @johnwurfel2862
      @johnwurfel2862 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Arc like an 1/8" E6010+++++ running 140 amps l😂

  • @jimd1968
    @jimd1968 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video, I am hoping to get my first lever gun in 45-70 and I am probably going with Marlin Trapper. New Sub thank you for the video.

  • @bigbpdx
    @bigbpdx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer stainless or Ceracoat

  • @bobjames3334
    @bobjames3334 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great review! Thanks.

  • @American-Patriot73
    @American-Patriot73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That's a laminate stock on the Marlin, not composite

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Laminate is a type of composite.

    • @johncantrell8904
      @johncantrell8904 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it ain't. Laminated wood is still wood. Composite is synthetic. It's a case of using the wrong word trying to sound smart.

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johncantrell8904
      What is a composite bow made out of?

    • @johncantrell8904
      @johncantrell8904 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@woodrowcall3158 Not laminated wood. How about fiberglass. Is plywood a composite? Or is it laminated wood. In the guitar world they like to call plywood, layered wood. Composite things are made of synthetic materials. Plywood or laminated wood is layers of wood held together by glue. I have never seen a compound bow made out of laminated wood but l have seen recurve bows made out of laminated wood. And l have been a firearms enthusiasts since l was a child and l have never seen a laminated wood stock referred to as a composite stock. I have seen synthetic stocks referred to as composite stocks. Synthetic is a more accurate way to describe such a stock. Describing a laminated stock as composite l guess could accurate as it is composited of layers of wood but that is not the generally accepted term to describe such a stock. Kevlar and fiberglass stocks with aluminum bedding blocks are described as composites and that is more accurate. I hope l have given a good reason for my stance on what is composite and what is laminated wood.

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johncantrell8904
      A composite (not compound) bow can be made of wood layered with horn, bone, and other pieces of wood.
      The key aspect of a composite is two or more components formed together to create a unified material. A polymer by itself is not a composite unless it is bound with another material. For example, glass filled nylon.
      A laminate wood stock is a composite stock, because multiple layers of wood are bound with epoxy to form a unified material. Look up the industry definition of plywood, it is described as a “composite material”.

  • @peggymorgan6355
    @peggymorgan6355 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They are both worth having.

  • @cravenmoorehead5
    @cravenmoorehead5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So, you can get a marlin, or a copy of a marlin

  • @keganje
    @keganje 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure I would be shooting Plus P rounds in any Lever gun. I'm sure other have mentioned that already. As Henry told me when I broke the linkage in my 1860 with hot 45 Colt rounds, which they fixed for free BTW, yes we use modern metals now, but the design is still the same.

  • @mikebiggle4691
    @mikebiggle4691 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice loading tip, thanks!

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😂 When the recoil blows the glass out of your optic. The target better Be careful...😅 It Used to be the target... It can be food soon

  • @timbell7893
    @timbell7893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wish I had one myself. Great video.

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @user-sl3wr4fk4n
    @user-sl3wr4fk4n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love Marlin but to be honest the Henry looks way more better. Love black and wood. Nice video loved it

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree! Thanks for watching and commenting
      Glad you enjoyed

    • @garyh1449
      @garyh1449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, Marlin does make a black on wood........or they did.

  • @mtman2
    @mtman2 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 18" Marlin be a great all weather Grizzly back up gun...!
    As far as actions the Henry may be tighter tolerances that will wear inbtight whereas the Marlin kay get a tad sloppy if not tight when bnew...!

  • @jerryreynolds8151
    @jerryreynolds8151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Try the HSM bear loads.

  • @glengrandstaff9695
    @glengrandstaff9695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Walnut and blued steel for me please.

  • @rogerj.fugere3570
    @rogerj.fugere3570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    45-70. Because I have an extra shoulder.

  • @ronkay1573
    @ronkay1573 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want a Garand….impressive

  • @billr389
    @billr389 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Being left handed is not a disability. It’s a challenge.

  • @doncraig3665
    @doncraig3665 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i should have kept my marlin 1895 45-70! enjoyable video!

  • @horsehead8306
    @horsehead8306 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why not have both?🤷‍♂️

    • @mrgunsnbeer5349
      @mrgunsnbeer5349 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wise words.A rifle for every purpose and a purpose for every rifle!

  • @MrCobb-rq8iv
    @MrCobb-rq8iv 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You can't compare walnut or maple to laminate, it's layer glued and don't warp, not apples to apples.

  • @pedrobossio5440
    @pedrobossio5440 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Effective to 1000 yards. That was the Governent requirement for that rifle and caliber.

  • @Echowhiskeyone
    @Echowhiskeyone หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Internal burrs" in the Marlin sound like a QC issue.

  • @actontreadway1168
    @actontreadway1168 หลายเดือนก่อน

    somehow I thought he had too much coffee and just couldn't get the cartridge in there far enough! Good strategy, turns out:)

  • @deweydewey
    @deweydewey หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have Henry 45-70 Brass , never shot it, but it looks Amazing.

    • @dukenukem69
      @dukenukem69 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just got the big boy brass side gate in 357. My fun ive ever had at the range. Definitely looking for the marlin 1894 sbl when they aren't asking 15-1600$ for em. So sick of corporate greed.

  • @jmc041071
    @jmc041071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good to know the Marlin action can handle +P+ loads. Do you think the Henry action is as strong?

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No. The Marlin is definitely better fit for +p+

  • @jeffersonkendrick4570
    @jeffersonkendrick4570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I WOULD THINK MAGAZINE CAPACITY, my marlin is a 6+1, I think 5 is the max in a Henry. My marlin 45-70 CB is a 9+1 magazine capacity.

  • @tonydoe877
    @tonydoe877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both good…personal preference like everything else

  • @brandondavis4306
    @brandondavis4306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my local wal-mart has a golden boy 45-70 henry I'm debating if I wanna add it to my collection. Good review gentlemen I currently own the marlin and I'm happy with her.

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buy it! How much is it listed for?

    • @brandondavis4306
      @brandondavis4306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ITW.Firearms 923

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      pretty fair rate

    • @brandondavis4306
      @brandondavis4306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ITW.Firearms yeah I brought it home, but had some light primer strikes on winchester super x loads. Federal hammerdown loads went fine, so I'm assuming that the winchester loads have hard primers.

  • @hurricaneaquatics
    @hurricaneaquatics หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like them both, but that Henry is ten times the rifle quality wise.

  • @henrygervais8744
    @henrygervais8744 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I definitly am bias toward the henry. I have a 22 and 44.

  • @Nickedup44
    @Nickedup44 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got the golden boy Henry 45-70 call it my brass cannon

  • @codybm321
    @codybm321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Henry has a transfer bar safety.

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It does not

    • @Vizslarunner99
      @Vizslarunner99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@ITW.Firearms it does .a transfer bar safety is internal and part of the trigger mechanism, it’s not a mechanical safety like the cross bolt on the marlin.It’s to prevent any accidental discharge, say if you were cocking the hammer and it slipped off your finger before it was fully cocked, it wouldn’t fire, it’ll only fire via trigger pull. That’s where the common theme of old timers carrying older revolvers (or lever guns for that matter)on an empty chamber came from, because if you dropped an older hammer gun on the hammer, or slipped cocking or de-cocking it could potentially (likely) discharge. Transfer bar solves this. To my knowledge the only Henry’s that do not have a TB is the rimfires, they have a half cock though.Hope that helps. Not trying to be a dick, or in this instance a cock 😂 oh and just fyi incase you’re unaware Henry has a recall on some 45-70’s manufactured in ‘22-‘23 for this very reason, transfer bar/firing pin issue. You can enter your serial number on their website to check if yours is one affected.

  • @AcaNik1973
    @AcaNik1973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would always prefer Marlina though :)

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dis agree. I had a marlin. And also a henry. I prefer the henry. My marlin was not made by ruger. And i had to send back for repair. The extractor broke. It was fixed and worked well after. But i bought a henry steel. 4570. And it was way smoother . I traded the marlin . Now i think that ruger is making them. They are very good. 🎉 but for me Henry or winchester😊

    • @steverobbins8661
      @steverobbins8661 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That sucks you had to have your marlin repaired. My marlin cowboy is a 'jm' before marlin sold out to remington/freedom group. Have had no trouble.....knock on wood... also have a henry all weather side gate that shoots great too

    • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
      @user-wo2iw3kt8o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @steverobbins8661 my marlin was a Remington made. And after getting repaired it worked OK. But I had bought a henry steel 4570. . The action was smoother and better accuracy. . I sold the marlin. I asked how he liked it. And he was very satisfied with it. . So both the marlin and henry I have owned were fine. The old marlins were unbeatable. Remington built ones were sad. Now ruger is building them. They will be great. The only revolvers I will buy are rugers. . I own 3 ruger super Blackhawk revolvers. And a ruger security 6. . Built like a Sherman tank and smooth and accurate. . God bless

  • @pathoffman2839
    @pathoffman2839 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RUGER MARLIN IS AWESOME.

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anybody know if any of the lever gun company’s are going to make a lever gun in S&W 500 magnum?

  • @galactic-goat
    @galactic-goat 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about a 1886 winchester or browning comparison?

  • @user-po9hy9th7w
    @user-po9hy9th7w หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... cross bolt safety in the Marlin a great feature??? ... I guess so if you're hunting non-dangerous game that runs away from rather than towards you🐻

  • @tomslongguns443
    @tomslongguns443 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rossi makes a R95 lever action in 45-70 , they are great rifles . If I had to pick one of these on the video it be the Marlin . Don't like Henry's !

  • @leebasham6100
    @leebasham6100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    1886 anyone?

    • @frankb3127
      @frankb3127 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe Uberti makes one.

    • @brandensutton2324
      @brandensutton2324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Personal favorite

    • @Banjoandguns
      @Banjoandguns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chiappa uberti Winchester

    • @wilmamcdermott3065
      @wilmamcdermott3065 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is a new miroku 1886 in 4590

  • @kevinoneill41
    @kevinoneill41 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love my lover action. All of them. Yes wood is best

    • @belt1974123
      @belt1974123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both are wood though

    • @belt1974123
      @belt1974123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marlin is a laminated wood.

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats your m1. Mine is s springfield 1953. What an awsome gal she is deadly and so bueatiful😊

  • @fortnite.burger
    @fortnite.burger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great review.

    • @ITW.Firearms
      @ITW.Firearms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really appreciate that! Hope all is well and glad you enjoyed

  • @user-ph2uv5he6m
    @user-ph2uv5he6m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone has thier favorite rifles. That's a nice video but i dont understand why anyone would hunt deer size animals with that heavy of a load? Again great if its your cup of tea. Enjoy