I put a temp comtrol loop on my ribbon burner as you have and IIRC,am getting +/- 15F swing as you did. My first HT ever and I have done about 15 blades in AEB-L. They test really well and I also dream of stainless damascus!!!! Do I need to tighten the temp swing? Iimagine that the steel lags the ambient temp and is not varying as the thermocouple shows. Thank you for all that you do. I woud not be here this fast without you!
@@judcargile Yeah the workpiece's temp will lag the temp quite a bit. You can also alter your PID setting so that there's less lag, but honestly 15F is pretty good. Thanks for watching.
I applaud you for pushing your boundaries. This is clearly an equipment-intensive build, what with the PID and all, and not something most of us would try. Here's hoping the final billet is spectacular!
It's certainly a difficult and pricey endeavor though. I don't think I'll be doing a ton of this but it certainly will be added to my repertoire. Thanks for watching!
Seems to be quite the process. Looking great so far I'm really looking forward to seeing how this continues to progress. That is a cool hat. Thanks again Dennis!
Quite a detailed process, Denis! You seem to have it nailed down already, and right on track. This series has me on edge, even more than when you did Feather Damascus! Can't wait to see what you create from this awesome billet! Thanks for sharing my brother! 💯😎👍🏻🔨🔥🔪
it reminds me of forging Wrought iron a bit cold...the another session of annealing is definitely not what the subtitles says it is LOL (4.53 if you want a laugh) Awesome job Denis the Argon weld seems to make quite a difference to the process I think stainless damascus should have a way higher pricetag than carbon steels, you certainly earnt it so far. Thanks for sharing
I'm excited to see what you make with the billet! I was thinking a raindrop or random pattern chef knife with a bloodwood or cocobolo handle would look quite nice.
It won’t have enough layers for a raindrop. You really need over 100 layers for a raindrop to look decent, the more layers the better. Otherwise it just looks like a few concentric circles. Stay tuned, you’ll see what I make. 😉
Wow, Denis ... quite the accomplishment ... but folks, between the inert gas, kiln time & temps, annealing, and loss .... collectors, ain't gonna be cheap !!!
heh, all I can say is you're succeeding so far and I'm hoping it'll work out for you. Way above my grade though for any other suggestions I did manage to forge weld some of my stainless foil cladding on some CPM3V last weekend were I missed coating a bit of it in talc.... not quite the same though!
Glad to see your having success with the SS damascus denis thats alot of hard work and alot of loss for now ill stick to regular damascus cant wait to see what you make from the billet Mark 👍✌✌
@@TyrellKnifeworks I believe your attention to detail in each step of the process is gonna see this through. Be like Batman... with enough prep time.... 🤣
No, it would be worse. Induction forges have very localized heat. You need a constant and consistent heat. The propane forge is much better. Thanks for watching.
Is the argon/inert gas bath the only way to forge weld the stainless? I mentioned earlier that I have a large stockpile of stainless restaurant tables, cabinets, etc. Mostly for HHO (hydrogen and oxygen fuel from electrolysis of water) but, would be cool to forge some demascus with it.
That type of stainless is extremely unlikely to hardenable steel. There’s really no reason for table and cabinets to be hardened so it’s probably just 304 stainless or something similar. Argon isn’t the only way but some kind of insert has certainly helps. Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks 🤔 I have a piece titanium cooling pipe, maybe that would be able to be forge welded in as a core for the edge? Be seriously interested in using oddball materials for different projects, and, not just knives. I was just watching a blacksmithing video of a livestream and a guy in the chat needs knee replacement, jokingly we were talking about making him a stainless demascus knee🤣, but, it's actually not entirely impossible, forge it close, get it machined, have it sterilized, and whalla.
Bronze damascus isn't that hard, it's basically the same as the silver I did for the last katana build (same temps and process). The titanium damascus is probably a no. That requires almost lab-like conditions and not something you can do in a home shop. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks thank you for getting back to me. I thought it would be more than I can afford but I’m going to start putting back till I can afford one of your knifes. Everything you make is a work of art. I will at some point have one. Wish I could afford the Bowie you did for that challenge. That would go on the wall.
Limits exist so that they may be conquered and the best things in life take the most time to cultivate. Not sure what you're crafting with this, but should you make it a Tanto, I'd give a finger for it.😂
Any questions about the process I might have missed?
I put a temp comtrol loop on my ribbon burner as you have and IIRC,am getting +/- 15F swing as you did. My first HT ever and I have done about 15 blades in AEB-L. They test really well and I also dream of stainless damascus!!!! Do I need to tighten the temp swing? Iimagine that the steel lags the ambient temp and is not varying as the thermocouple shows. Thank you for all that you do. I woud not be here this fast without you!
@@judcargile Yeah the workpiece's temp will lag the temp quite a bit. You can also alter your PID setting so that there's less lag, but honestly 15F is pretty good. Thanks for watching.
I applaud you for pushing your boundaries. This is clearly an equipment-intensive build, what with the PID and all, and not something most of us would try. Here's hoping the final billet is spectacular!
Yeah there's a high cost and high chance of failure without the proper equipment and procedures on this one. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching, Bryson.
Imagine trying to work stainless to make armor by hand, you're right, it does NOT like to move much at all. Loving watching this evolve !!!
At least with armor you’re working with thinner stock that’s not hardened steel. 😉. Thanks for watching.
This is going to be a game change for kitchen knives!!! Thanks for always innovating!
It's certainly a difficult and pricey endeavor though. I don't think I'll be doing a ton of this but it certainly will be added to my repertoire. Thanks for watching!
Seems to be quite the process. Looking great so far I'm really looking forward to seeing how this continues to progress. That is a cool hat. Thanks again Dennis!
It’s not something I plan to do often but it’ll be really nice for certain things. Thanks for watching, Stephen
Quite a detailed process, Denis! You seem to have it nailed down already, and right on track. This series has me on edge, even more than when you did Feather Damascus! Can't wait to see what you create from this awesome billet! Thanks for sharing my brother! 💯😎👍🏻🔨🔥🔪
I'm certainly excited to have another process in my repertoire. Stay tuned to see what I make with this! Thanks for watching.
it reminds me of forging Wrought iron a bit cold...the another session of annealing is definitely not what the subtitles says it is LOL (4.53 if you want a laugh)
Awesome job Denis the Argon weld seems to make quite a difference to the process
I think stainless damascus should have a way higher pricetag than carbon steels, you certainly earnt it so far.
Thanks for sharing
Oh it does have a MUCH higher price tag for sure! Thanks for watching.
I'm excited to see what you make with the billet! I was thinking a raindrop or random pattern chef knife with a bloodwood or cocobolo handle would look quite nice.
It won’t have enough layers for a raindrop. You really need over 100 layers for a raindrop to look decent, the more layers the better. Otherwise it just looks like a few concentric circles. Stay tuned, you’ll see what I make. 😉
Great result ❤
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow, Denis ... quite the accomplishment ... but folks, between the inert gas, kiln time & temps, annealing, and loss .... collectors, ain't gonna be cheap !!!
Exactly, it ain't gonna be cheap! There's a reason these command a very high price. Thanks for watching, Byron!
Good afternoon good sir!
heh, all I can say is you're succeeding so far and I'm hoping it'll work out for you. Way above my grade though for any other suggestions
I did manage to forge weld some of my stainless foil cladding on some CPM3V last weekend were I missed coating a bit of it in talc.... not quite the same though!
Thanks for following along, Kris! I don't think this is something I'll do a lot, because of cost, but its great to have a new process in my toolbox. 😉
Glad to see your having success with the SS damascus denis thats alot of hard work and alot of loss for now ill stick to regular damascus cant wait to see what you make from the billet Mark 👍✌✌
Yeah it certainly has its drawbacks and the reason it's so expensive! Thanks for watching, Mark.
A true pioneer. ❤ 🤘🏻😊
Thanks, Matt! It's going well so far... or I'm just getting lucky. I'm not sure which yet. 🤣
@@TyrellKnifeworks I believe your attention to detail in each step of the process is gonna see this through. Be like Batman... with enough prep time.... 🤣
If one had a strong enough induction forge would it be better to use than a gas forge for stainless damascus?
No, it would be worse. Induction forges have very localized heat. You need a constant and consistent heat. The propane forge is much better. Thanks for watching.
Is the argon/inert gas bath the only way to forge weld the stainless? I mentioned earlier that I have a large stockpile of stainless restaurant tables, cabinets, etc. Mostly for HHO (hydrogen and oxygen fuel from electrolysis of water) but, would be cool to forge some demascus with it.
That type of stainless is extremely unlikely to hardenable steel. There’s really no reason for table and cabinets to be hardened so it’s probably just 304 stainless or something similar. Argon isn’t the only way but some kind of insert has certainly helps. Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks 🤔 I have a piece titanium cooling pipe, maybe that would be able to be forge welded in as a core for the edge? Be seriously interested in using oddball materials for different projects, and, not just knives. I was just watching a blacksmithing video of a livestream and a guy in the chat needs knee replacement, jokingly we were talking about making him a stainless demascus knee🤣, but, it's actually not entirely impossible, forge it close, get it machined, have it sterilized, and whalla.
@@billwoehl3051 titanium Damascus requires lab-like conditions. I cannot be done in a home shop. Sorry
Right on!!
Not quite as complicated at wootz, but certainly has it's own challenges! Thanks for watching, Spencer.
What pid sensor probe did you use that can take the heat?
This is the one I use: www.meter-depot.com/high-temperature-k-type-thermocouple-sensor-for-ceramic-kiln-furnace-cr-2/
@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks tyrell!!
How awesome 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Can you do bronze damascus or titanium damascus/timascus
Bronze damascus isn't that hard, it's basically the same as the silver I did for the last katana build (same temps and process). The titanium damascus is probably a no. That requires almost lab-like conditions and not something you can do in a home shop. Thanks for watching.
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أنا سعيد لأنك تعلمت شيئا. شكرا للمشاهدة.
Question for you. Can you give me a ball park idea what an 8” chefs knife would cost
Hey Gino, I actually have a 9" chef knife on my website right now. tyrellknifeworks.com/shop/ols/products/stainless-k-tip-gyuto-chef-knife. Thanks.
@@TyrellKnifeworks thank you for getting back to me. I thought it would be more than I can afford but I’m going to start putting back till I can afford one of your knifes. Everything you make is a work of art. I will at some point have one. Wish I could afford the Bowie you did for that challenge. That would go on the wall.
Interesting stuff 🤔
Thanks for watching.
Muito bom !
Obrigado por assistir!
Limits exist so that they may be conquered and the best things in life take the most time to cultivate. Not sure what you're crafting with this, but should you make it a Tanto, I'd give a finger for it.😂
I'm sure this is going to be some kind of kitchen knife given the material and usage. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks Pure alchemy! 🙏
Как всегда класс.
Спасибо, что следите за каналом!