Imagine yourself just giving one of these to your grandchildren. This is always in my mind, I express my life with my collection leaving behind. Personally, Tuna will tell more about me, Rolex will tell that i had got money sometime.
One is inherently a flex, and comes with a tax, the other is a brilliantly designed workhorse that also had a certain charm/allure and is reasonably priced. I do certainly enjoy Rolex, however I think their business strategy similar to Ferrari is inherently appalling and a vestige of the past and will inevitably have to change within the next few decades
Seriously!? How could anyone think the Tuna is rip off of the Sub? Wow! I think you have clearly explained their differences and strengths - Very nicely done. Thanks for another great video :)
I have had multiple Submariners and I absolutely love them to pieces. However, I just ordered my SBBN033 and I have never been so excited! Loved the review!
@@laurentfargues8113 thanks, Ive actually had the joy of acquiring a solar powered, mutiband radio controlled, multi-city zone timed Casio. Functionality over aesthetic anyday of the week.
@@Advic77 I use it when I travel (it has a worldtime function, super useful when you travel a lot) or to set the time on my more fancy automatic watches
I just saw Wranglerstar's video before this; I love his channel. As a comment, I really don't see how one could categorize these two watches together, they're apples to oranges. But you did an excellent job explaining them, great video.
I doubt there's much difference between a sub and a tuna in timekeeping. If you cant cope with Rolex time keeping you need to take up meditation or heroin as you're waaaay too highly strung 🤣
The correct background is a saturation diver lives in a mixed gas habitat w helium. The helium would leak into the watch casing and the crystals would pop out during decompression. Rolex and many others drill an additional hole in the casing and install a helium escape valve (eg Sea Dweller) to make a saturation diver. Seiko wanted a more robust elegant engineering solution so they put a lot of work into the gaskets which can seal out the helium and therefore negate the need for a helium escape valve.
Thanks for writing that. My head exploded when Jory said that the Japanese divers wanted a more robust movement, and the mechanical movements couldn't handle deep dives (Huh? Why not?), so Seiko went with a quartz movement. No. The whole point of why they invented the Tuna is what you described, above.
Lug to lug, I think they are nearly the same. So on the wrist, they are both actually very wearable.. More surprisingly the tuna because its perceived dimensions. And the tuna is all its own, no way a Rolex Submariner homage.
Great review/contrast. I have to ask … your Tuna bezel actually lines up and … the second hand hits the chapter ring/minute track dead on! Were you able to hand pick your Tuna to get one that lines up perfectly? A quartz second hand that hits between the minute markers is sooooo annoying. How did you get one so tuned?
Great video! Love it and appreciate to see when someone gives credit to the Fifty Fathoms over the Rolex. I can't see how anyone can say a Tuna is a Rolex homage ... To the general public and people that are not as informed and knowledgeable in horology and are not watch enthusiast, you can have a $100k watch on your hand and they won't know the difference from a Casio if it's not a Rolex. So just buy and wear whatever makes you happy!
Totally agree with your points. If I were someone who actually needed a tool watch for its durability and accuracy, I'd totally go for something like the Tuna. But for a versatile watch that suits all occasions and that's totally kick ass, one can't beat the Submariner, especially the 16800! Great video, and nice one for addressing the difference between fact and opinion - I feel people get twisted about opinions.
I have replica Rolex’s for sell from gmt to subs for 50$ I have pics to show if interested email duatin7937@ gmail(dot) com And they are all swiss mechanical Swiss mvmt This will be the best replica under 500$ and mine has been going strong a year now and no one ever noticed it was not real! I also have black face submariners for 30$
The Zodiac Sea Wolf also came out in 1953 and was the first dive watch with a rotating timing bezel. It also had a better dive rating of 339 feet compared to Blancpain's 300 feet. Dive watch history has almost forgotten these facts entirely when comparing to Rolex and Blancpain, sadly.
Wranglerstar's choice of going with the Tuna is incredibly sensible, he wanted a quartz for the durability and being able to put it down for long periods and still have it keep time, he wears it while doing forestry and firefighting, and he's a relatively frugal guy, so while the Submariner is an amazing watch, for practical purposes the Tuna is far more affordable for one thing, but also built like a tank, which is exactly what he wanted from a watch.
Both are awesome. My dad had a Submariner and I still have a Tuna. I agree with you that they are different . My dad liked and respected both watches and pointed out the Sub has elegance while the Tuna is a beast.
Hey Jory, just wanted to say that I love the content on your channel! I just got into horological watch collecting this year (after blowing too much money on fashion watches -_-) and I love the fact that you cover some great watches on your channel! You mentioned the Vostok Amphibia (Scuba dude), I was wondering if you've already created or review or not? Anyhow, keep up the great stuff! Looking forward to more videos of the time teller ⌚⌚⌚
As always, your vids are great. Today is my birthday and just got my submariner and also have a PADI tuna. Like you, both of these are great watches. Great to see both of these compare to each other. There can be only one winner between these two
Question : the tune has quartz movement with jewels ! Normal mechanical movement with jewels has to be serviced maybe every 5 years and then my question is : do jewels in quartz movements need to get a drop of oil every 5 years ? I am glad you are so happy with your Tuna !!!
Would I wear a Rolex submariner worth around £6000 to go diving and risk damage or perhaps loss? Disregarding insurance etc , no I definitely wouldn't unless I was very wealthy! The Tuna is robust, affordable and practical so as far as diving is concerned I would certainly wear it ! Nice video - thanks .
Those are both awesome watches! Where do you suggest buying a preowned Rolex from? I want to get a gmt II or Sub but on Chrono24 they cost almost what a new Sub no date is from my local AD. Any info is appreciated & thanks for all of the great reviews
Pity Rolex is now an investment vehicle and watch people can’t treat themselves to one at a reasonable cost. The Tuna has serious street cred and history to match.
I'd like to nominate a watch I own, but have yet to see a video on. The Hamilton Khaki Navy Frogman ref. H77605135. SS, 300m, AR sapphire crystal and built like a tank.
I used to really really want a SMPO Pro and a Tuna. My tastes have changed a bit. Now i really want a deep sea dweller..... I still want a tuna! I love your comparison here. It's the difference between James Bond or Dutch/Commando.
Two totally different watches!!! Both perfect for what they are designed for. But..............how can one compare the two based on looks? Knock off of the Rolex Sub??? Only an idiot would think so!! Great video, Jory. :-)
I love them both. I have a few Seiko’s and right now I’ve been wearing my Pepsi PADI Turtle daily (awesome watch btw). I really, really want a Sub but the prices are just out of my reach. Retired NJ P.O. with two kids in college, so I don’t think I’ll ever get my Sub before I die lol. But between the Tuna and the Sub, hands down the Sub wins for its versatility alone. Great videos though Jory. I’m always learning something.
codys word can be taken for sure. hes not gonna buy junk. Im subed to both of you guys and it was super cool that you gave his channel a shout as well.
I had a tuna always hit the door frames but I didn't care I did care with the Rolex lost the tuna diving but a new sbbn031 tuna should be at my door tomorrow. I wear a SKX013 now love the small model and now its double in price since its no longer made. everyone has a submariner worry on those my Daytona was $650 to service. no more rolies
Well, I also have both a Rolex (16600) and the newest Tuna (sbbn49). The Rolex has terrible lume, poor timekeeping and feels like it’s made of baked bean cans. BUT yet I still love it and it’s heritage. You are entirely correct about it’s ‘not losing money’ but it costs a lot to run and it’s also very irritating interacting with dealer or watch shops who constantly think it may be stolen. Abd when they are or have been then it’s also impossible to know unless it Goes in for service and you later discover it.
How long does the battery last in the Seiko tuna? how much is the charge for battery replacement and making sure it is waterproof? Only Seiko can do it? I wish it was solar. Anyway between Rolex originals, homages and fakes, the Submariner disappears as you said.
Enjoyed the video Jory. Personally I don’t think there’s anything similar about the watches except that they’re both stainless. Both are in my opinion great watches and should be part of any collection. Personally I think Oris has some models that compare very nicely to the Submariner that can save the average Joe a considerable amount of money, that said we can save that for another time.
The main device Rolex uses to protect second hand values, and hence its customer base, is to frequently raise prices. That crude method works thanks to brilliant marketing and insecure customers seeking validation.
Hercules Theban Or they can afford said product. For some people 10k is not a lot of money and with Rolex and especially if you buy a preloved, steel sports watch you will either retain your purchase value or in some cases gain value. I know a lot if people who rock subs and other steel sports watches and I assure you they have no intention of trying to show status by their watch but they enjoy the quality of the watch. Believe me you can tell the difderence in quality between a Rolex and something not in the price range. Every single detail is done to an extremely high level on a Rolex where in lower end watches there is always a compromise.
eco8gator for that price range nah, omega has them beat on movement and affordability, it still all comes down to marketing and “clout” when it comes to rolex
@7:12 “You bang around the the Rolex hard enough, you may be looking at an early servicing with a re-calibration” - which sums up why I’m watching this video (again). I need a cool Every Day Watch that I can bang around and not worry about. Maybe even looking at a leftover SBBN025 with the lighter black titanium case and real crystal...
Great comparison, and excellent video. My two cents: I wouldn't call the 3035 less robust than the 7C46, because the former was utilized in the Seadweller, used by the same professionals the Tuna was designed for. IMHO the main difference is not one of functionality, but of value: The Tuna can do everything a Seadweller can do at 1/8th the cost.
Can you make a comparison between the Rolex Sub and the Tudor Pelagos? With the lumed bezel of the Pelagos it seems like an even better divewatch to me.
No much to compare. The Pelagos is pure tool watch, the Sub is the do it all watch as it's thinner and dressier. I have a Pelagos and my father has a Sub. I prefer the Pelagos. Cheaper and less to worry about (scratches, dings, getting it stolen)
I work State Police on an ESU/Swat Team. My jobs take me in all weather and conditions. Please tell me which watch you may suggest:1)Casio G Shock Mud master GWG 10002)Casio PAG240 1CR Pathfinder3)Seiko Marine Master Tuna4)Seiko Orange Monster srp309
Great video! Both are great watches to own. To choose btw the 2, if I can afford, I go with the sub. If I cant, the tuna is always a great choice. If I am looking for a affordable sub alternative, there are many to consider eg Omega seamaster, Ball watch, Christopher Wards, Seiko Prospex...
If I really needed a dive watch, the Tuna would win hands down, but for a versatile timepiece, I'd stick to my Casio Duro. The Subbie to me is a victim of its own success. There's so many Subbie clones that can do it's job as well as a Subbie.
I don't know how anyone could say that the Tuna is a rip off. It is its own original design. If I needed a tough tool watch like Wranglerstar does, I would definitely choose the Tuna. However, I have no need for that, and I feel like the Sub is much more versatile. Sub wins for me hands down.
I have replica Rolex’s for sell from gmt to subs for 50$ I have pics to show if interested email duatin7937@ gmail(dot) com And they are all swiss mechanical Swiss mvmt This will be the best replica under 500$ and mine has been going strong a year now and no one ever noticed it was not real! I also have black face submariners for 30$
I used to love Seiko until they started catering to the collectors with limited editions. I really wanted the Jade Monster, but nope it limited at double the price on the secondary market.
Don't understand why drawing distinction between these two? I own a 1978 VW Super Beetle. Next to a 2018 Beetle, they share a name and manufacturer. The Sub is a luxury tool watch. The Tuna is a very good tool watch that benefits from the latest technology.
I have a g shock but it pretty much only gets worn at night due to the light. I would never pick a g shock over a tuna or sub- or any decent watch- unless I was doing some hardcore manual labour (which I don’t really do) or extreme sports (which again I don’t do).
My Seiko Tuna is the only Watch I own that I trust to beat knife wielding muggers about the head & body when I take my 3AM strolls through Central Park.
Subs are one of the most boring watches out there in my opinion. I don't see the hype of wearing a tool watch with suit and tie despite the advertising that Rolex wanted the consumers to believe
sold my Daytona got the tuna I wear my skx013 when I dress up I love em both. the Daytona always worried about it getting scratch getting it stolen and people thought it was a show off piece and it was I didn't like that bye bye I had a tuna in the 80s I live in Hawaii and lost it diving all the guys wanted the tuna so ill never sell either. my skx 013 is as good as the Daytona and it keeps better time my tuna is spot on for months to the second the tuna is the watch. to me none better than the tuna.
Dig your videos! Starting to watch them daily. Clean up your background. Shelves to cluddered and ditch that sign that says let me file that under.... Your to classy for that bro. Also add your cats to some of your reviews. People love cats. Google floss and watch one of his tech reviews. Wishlist for watch reviews... Helson, VDB, Stowa and Marathon Field Watch (plastic one). Anyways big fan of your channel and love the way you communicate all the details. 👍👍👍
If that Tuna was solar, it might me my ideal concept of a tool diver! Either way, it is certainly badass! I would be interested to hear what you think of Citizen’s Ecozilla. It is a much more affordable version of a serious tool watch diver.
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If given the option to choose 1 between both of these watches I would rather choose the Seiko Tuna its unique in all the way possible. If we are into thinking that while dressing up it wont help then for that it leaves you enough budget to buy a Rolex Air King for dress watch. If we total it up we spend much less than 1 rolex sub but still be a talk of the show.
Seiko can take a beating waaaaaaaay more than the Swiss cheese... Wore my tuna during my trip to Raja Ampat for a deep dive tour, the tuna is really a beast, more iluminations. I brought also my late dads sub, i rethink wearing it since i gotta pay alot know the SERVICES cost Heck ALOT... aint no Way im gonna Wore it, stayed in the bag until i went to a local resto. XD
In the end a Rolex is a Rolex. If you want to get something that’s different and more utilitarian get the Tuna but personally, taking the size into account, I think the Sub is more attractive to a larger variety of people.
Great video and comparison. Honestly I would not buy either if these watches. Both are fantastic, however, as a recreational diver I don't need a saturation diver. Although it looks super cool. And the submariner is easily one of the best looking watches ever made and a fantastic tool watch. However, there are tons of watches in the$1000 dollar range that can do the same thing that the sub does. I just can't bring myself to spending that kind of money on a watch. I'll stick with my SKX.
Sam D. You can apply that theory to many genres of watches. Does one need a IWC Big Pilot to fly a Boeing 747. Nope. Most watch collectors do not use tool watches for their intended purpose. All watches are just kool horology.
Wranglerstar is a family that left urban lifestyle for country prepping... (I think of a successful Green Acres). Remember when he lost a few Benchmade knifes and tried lesser brands and still went back to the Benchmade. Over the years have watched many of these types of channels and they each come from a different perspective... But a tool needs to be a tool and a reliable tool at that.
Thank you for the nice shoutout TTT from your newest subscriber.
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You’re such a sigma male
Imagine yourself just giving one of these to your grandchildren. This is always in my mind, I express my life with my collection leaving behind. Personally, Tuna will tell more about me, Rolex will tell that i had got money sometime.
my thoughts exactly
One is inherently a flex, and comes with a tax, the other is a brilliantly designed workhorse that also had a certain charm/allure and is reasonably priced. I do certainly enjoy Rolex, however I think their business strategy similar to Ferrari is inherently appalling and a vestige of the past and will inevitably have to change within the next few decades
Seriously!? How could anyone think the Tuna is rip off of the Sub? Wow!
I think you have clearly explained their differences and strengths - Very nicely done.
Thanks for another great video :)
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Rolex fanboys are so delusional that they think Hans Wilsdorf invented wrist watches, and time itself.
I have had multiple Submariners and I absolutely love them to pieces. However, I just ordered my SBBN033 and I have never been so excited! Loved the review!
Using a Quartz to "set or verify" the time of an Automatic qualifies everything I need to know in one sentence.
Buy a Citizen ecodrive radiocontrolled. It will always be perfectly on time without having anything to do.
@@laurentfargues8113 thanks, Ive actually had the joy of acquiring a solar powered, mutiband radio controlled, multi-city zone timed Casio. Functionality over aesthetic anyday of the week.
@@Advic77 I use it when I travel (it has a worldtime function, super useful when you travel a lot) or to set the time on my more fancy automatic watches
I'll take the seiko in a heartbeat!
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@@MR.THANKMEL8TR I bought the Seiko. 😂
@@hansolo1935 i was just trolling lol but congrats bro hope you are enjoying it
Only if resales not a concern
I'd take the Role x, sell it, then buy a Seiko and keep the change.
I just saw Wranglerstar's video before this; I love his channel. As a comment, I really don't see how one could categorize these two watches together, they're apples to oranges. But you did an excellent job explaining them, great video.
most rolex users just baby their watch cause most can afford to lose or break it , seiko users wear it and enjoy it .
I go swimming with my submariner
Even if your not into watches, theres a HUUUUUUGEEEEE difference between a sub and a tuna. Gigantic difference.
Yep, in price!
I doubt there's much difference between a sub and a tuna in timekeeping. If you cant cope with Rolex time keeping you need to take up meditation or heroin as you're waaaay too highly strung 🤣
yes. One keeps time, and the other needs to be kept up
FatSamEIE no way any quartz besides the spring drive can compete with quartz accuracy.
The correct background is a saturation diver lives in a mixed gas habitat w helium. The helium would leak into the watch casing and the crystals would pop out during decompression. Rolex and many others drill an additional hole in the casing and install a helium escape valve (eg Sea Dweller) to make a saturation diver. Seiko wanted a more robust elegant engineering solution so they put a lot of work into the gaskets which can seal out the helium and therefore negate the need for a helium escape valve.
Thanks for writing that. My head exploded when Jory said that the Japanese divers wanted a more robust movement, and the mechanical movements couldn't handle deep dives (Huh? Why not?), so Seiko went with a quartz movement. No. The whole point of why they invented the Tuna is what you described, above.
Lug to lug, I think they are nearly the same. So on the wrist, they are both actually very wearable.. More surprisingly the tuna because its perceived dimensions.
And the tuna is all its own, no way a Rolex Submariner homage.
Have had 2 $10k rolexes in my life. For the money I love my 031 much more Don’t get me wrong the Rolex is beautiful but over priced 👍🏻🤘🏻
Great review/contrast. I have to ask … your Tuna bezel actually lines up and … the second hand hits the chapter ring/minute track dead on! Were you able to hand pick your Tuna to get one that lines up perfectly? A quartz second hand that hits between the minute markers is sooooo annoying. How did you get one so tuned?
Great video! Love it and appreciate to see when someone gives credit to the Fifty Fathoms over the Rolex. I can't see how anyone can say a Tuna is a Rolex homage ... To the general public and people that are not as informed and knowledgeable in horology and are not watch enthusiast, you can have a $100k watch on your hand and they won't know the difference from a Casio if it's not a Rolex. So just buy and wear whatever makes you happy!
Totally agree with your points. If I were someone who actually needed a tool watch for its durability and accuracy, I'd totally go for something like the Tuna. But for a versatile watch that suits all occasions and that's totally kick ass, one can't beat the Submariner, especially the 16800! Great video, and nice one for addressing the difference between fact and opinion - I feel people get twisted about opinions.
I have replica Rolex’s for sell from gmt to subs for 50$ I have pics to show if interested email duatin7937@ gmail(dot) com And they are all swiss mechanical Swiss mvmt This will be the best replica under 500$ and mine has been going strong a year now and no one ever noticed it was not real! I also have black face submariners for 30$
Thank you for the excellent point!
Is it just me, or did everybody forgot the Explorer?
Bro I love the way the Tuna looks, holy shit what a nice watch.
A "rolex value bubble" video would be awesome!!
Another great video. I have nothing to add really, you said it all. Love em both but the Tuna is my fave just cause it's different!
The Zodiac Sea Wolf also came out in 1953 and was the first dive watch with a rotating timing bezel. It also had a better dive rating of 339 feet compared to Blancpain's 300 feet. Dive watch history has almost forgotten these facts entirely when comparing to Rolex and Blancpain, sadly.
Wranglerstar's choice of going with the Tuna is incredibly sensible, he wanted a quartz for the durability and being able to put it down for long periods and still have it keep time, he wears it while doing forestry and firefighting, and he's a relatively frugal guy, so while the Submariner is an amazing watch, for practical purposes the Tuna is far more affordable for one thing, but also built like a tank, which is exactly what he wanted from a watch.
Seiko every time, never wear a watch you can’t beat a man to death with
Both are awesome. My dad had a Submariner and I still have a Tuna. I agree with you that they are different . My dad liked and respected both watches and pointed out the Sub has elegance while the Tuna is a beast.
Hey Jory, just wanted to say that I love the content on your channel!
I just got into horological watch collecting this year (after blowing too much money on fashion watches -_-) and I love the fact that you cover some great watches on your channel! You mentioned the Vostok Amphibia (Scuba dude), I was wondering if you've already created or review or not? Anyhow, keep up the great stuff! Looking forward to more videos of the time teller ⌚⌚⌚
Tuna is a real tool watch. Pure and raw quality
As always, your vids are great.
Today is my birthday and just got my submariner and also have a PADI tuna. Like you, both of these are great watches. Great to see both of these compare to each other.
There can be only one winner between these two
Value. That $6000.00 saved buying the Tuna, invested conservatively at 4% will make you $1200.00 in 5 years.
Hell, I invest better than that!
Question : the tune has quartz movement with jewels ! Normal mechanical movement with jewels has to be serviced maybe every 5 years and then my question is : do jewels in quartz movements need to get a drop of oil every 5 years ? I am glad you are so happy with your Tuna !!!
I love the Marinemaster :) Perfect
Seiko Ofcourse. We need functionality, not the status sign. Plus, even more than that, a 30 dollar casio may seve the purpose in even morre better way
Would I wear a Rolex submariner worth around £6000 to go diving and risk damage or perhaps loss? Disregarding insurance etc , no I definitely wouldn't unless I was very wealthy!
The Tuna is robust, affordable and practical so as far as diving is concerned I would certainly wear it ! Nice video - thanks .
Even the rich baby their rolex, has them stored in a bank instead of enjoying em
Those are both awesome watches! Where do you suggest buying a preowned Rolex from? I want to get a gmt II or Sub but on Chrono24 they cost almost what a new Sub no date is from my local AD. Any info is appreciated & thanks for all of the great reviews
Well done, sir. "All good, just different" applies here.
I'm really thinking about th tuna instead of the mm300sbdx0001 what you think?
Tuna is better as a daily watch. It's thinner and a lot lighter. The SBDX001 is no slouch though (I've owed SBDX001, 017 and SLA019)
Can you please make a video on the rolex bubble you mentioned?
I am not much of a watch enthusiast but I loved your video and just subscribed! Thank you
I think they call it tuna because of the reminiscence of a tuna can. xD
Nice comparison: even though they are very different watches. I must admit, as a new collector/enthusiast, I have a bias against quartz watches.
Pity Rolex is now an investment vehicle and watch people can’t treat themselves to one at a reasonable cost. The Tuna has serious street cred and history to match.
I'd like to nominate a watch I own, but have yet to see a video on. The Hamilton Khaki Navy Frogman ref. H77605135. SS, 300m, AR sapphire crystal and built like a tank.
Valen Greymoon love that watch..Hamilton makes great way hes
Cool video, and I am happy to see that the Tuna second hand hits each marker. 👍
I used to really really want a SMPO Pro and a Tuna. My tastes have changed a bit. Now i really want a deep sea dweller..... I still want a tuna! I love your comparison here. It's the difference between James Bond or Dutch/Commando.
I believe the SBBN031 wins this. Walk into a room with both watches and the Rolex will get " is that a real Rolex "
I did not realize that the tuna was barely 2mm thicker.... thats not much for the bulk it carries
Two totally different watches!!! Both perfect for what they are designed for. But..............how can one compare the two based on looks? Knock off of the Rolex Sub??? Only an idiot would think so!! Great video, Jory. :-)
lol how is a tuna a knockoff submariner? what a stupid things to say....
I love them both. I have a few Seiko’s and right now I’ve been wearing my Pepsi PADI Turtle daily (awesome watch btw). I really, really want a Sub but the prices are just out of my reach. Retired NJ P.O. with two kids in college, so I don’t think I’ll ever get my Sub before I die lol. But between the Tuna and the Sub, hands down the Sub wins for its versatility alone. Great videos though Jory. I’m always learning something.
I like your watch taste more than other channels, appreciate the bigger sizes... the tuna looks awesome, as is your black baby tuna
codys word can be taken for sure. hes not gonna buy junk. Im subed to both of you guys and it was super cool that you gave his channel a shout as well.
Gotta catch em all! My choice for 300m diver is the Quartz Seamaster Professional.
Bonus tip: you can oil fill a Seiko tuna to increase its depth waterproofing to around 2000m give it or take
I had a tuna always hit the door frames but I didn't care I did care with the Rolex lost the tuna diving but a new sbbn031 tuna should be at my door tomorrow. I wear a SKX013 now love the small model and now its double in price since its no longer made. everyone has a submariner worry on those my Daytona was $650 to service. no more rolies
Well, I also have both a Rolex (16600) and the newest Tuna (sbbn49). The Rolex has terrible lume, poor timekeeping and feels like it’s made of baked bean cans. BUT yet I still love it and it’s heritage. You are entirely correct about it’s ‘not losing money’ but it costs a lot to run and it’s also very irritating interacting with dealer or watch shops who constantly think it may be stolen. Abd when they are or have been then it’s also impossible to know unless it Goes in for service and you later discover it.
is the Submariner's WR rating ISO 6425 certified like the Tuna's? I don't see the words "Diver's" or "Professional" on the Sub.
Wouldn't the Sea Dwellee be a better comparison to the Big Tuna?
Sub and that tuna are both 300m
There are 1000m tunas too though but I guess he did this video down to what he had access to
@@FatSamEIE point taken
How long does the battery last in the Seiko tuna? how much is the charge for battery replacement and making sure it is waterproof? Only Seiko can do it? I wish it was solar. Anyway between Rolex originals, homages and fakes, the Submariner disappears as you said.
Best all round Rolex is the 39mm Explorer 2 with the Black face.
Enjoyed the video Jory. Personally I don’t think there’s anything similar about the watches except that they’re both stainless. Both are in my opinion great watches and should be part of any collection. Personally I think Oris has some models that compare very nicely to the Submariner that can save the average Joe a considerable amount of money, that said we can save that for another time.
Very good. I am learning about watches from your channel. Larry C.
The main device Rolex uses to protect second hand values, and hence its customer base, is to frequently raise prices. That crude method works thanks to brilliant marketing and insecure customers seeking validation.
Hercules Theban Or they can afford said product. For some people 10k is not a lot of money and with Rolex and especially if you buy a preloved, steel sports watch you will either retain your purchase value or in some cases gain value.
I know a lot if people who rock subs and other steel sports watches and I assure you they have no intention of trying to show status by their watch but they enjoy the quality of the watch. Believe me you can tell the difderence in quality between a Rolex and something not in the price range. Every single detail is done to an extremely high level on a Rolex where in lower end watches there is always a compromise.
eco8gator for that price range nah, omega has them beat on movement and affordability, it still all comes down to marketing and “clout” when it comes to rolex
What services do you mean for the rolex?
Jan Pagtanac I have read a standard Rolex service costs $4-500.
Love wranglerstar, a real mans man. That was a great video where he took you through his lifelong progression of watches.
@7:12 “You bang around the the Rolex hard enough, you may be looking at an early servicing with a re-calibration” - which sums up why I’m watching this video (again). I need a cool Every Day Watch that I can bang around and not worry about. Maybe even looking at a leftover SBBN025 with the lighter black titanium case and real crystal...
Great comparison, and excellent video. My two cents: I wouldn't call the 3035 less robust than the 7C46, because the former was utilized in the Seadweller, used by the same professionals the Tuna was designed for. IMHO the main difference is not one of functionality, but of value: The Tuna can do everything a Seadweller can do at 1/8th the cost.
Can you make a comparison between the Rolex Sub and the Tudor Pelagos? With the lumed bezel of the Pelagos it seems like an even better divewatch to me.
No much to compare. The Pelagos is pure tool watch, the Sub is the do it all watch as it's thinner and dressier. I have a Pelagos and my father has a Sub. I prefer the Pelagos. Cheaper and less to worry about (scratches, dings, getting it stolen)
I work State Police on an ESU/Swat Team. My jobs take me in all weather and conditions. Please tell me which watch you may suggest:1)Casio G Shock Mud master GWG 10002)Casio PAG240 1CR Pathfinder3)Seiko Marine Master Tuna4)Seiko Orange Monster srp309
Great video! Both are great watches to own. To choose btw the 2, if I can afford, I go with the sub. If I cant, the tuna is always a great choice. If I am looking for a affordable sub alternative, there are many to consider eg Omega seamaster, Ball watch, Christopher Wards, Seiko Prospex...
If I really needed a dive watch, the Tuna would win hands down, but for a versatile timepiece, I'd stick to my Casio Duro. The Subbie to me is a victim of its own success. There's so many Subbie clones that can do it's job as well as a Subbie.
I don't know how anyone could say that the Tuna is a rip off. It is its own original design. If I needed a tough tool watch like Wranglerstar does, I would definitely choose the Tuna. However, I have no need for that, and I feel like the Sub is much more versatile. Sub wins for me hands down.
I have replica Rolex’s for sell from gmt to subs for 50$ I have pics to show if interested email duatin7937@ gmail(dot) com And they are all swiss mechanical Swiss mvmt This will be the best replica under 500$ and mine has been going strong a year now and no one ever noticed it was not real! I also have black face submariners for 30$
I used to love Seiko until they started catering to the collectors with limited editions. I really wanted the Jade Monster, but nope it limited at double the price on the secondary market.
Don't understand why drawing distinction between these two?
I own a 1978 VW Super Beetle. Next to a 2018 Beetle, they share a name and manufacturer.
The Sub is a luxury tool watch. The Tuna is a very good tool watch that benefits from the latest technology.
Believe it or not Seiko Tuna looks a lot more beautiful than Rolex 😍😍😍😍
Good review. Just subscribed!
My day is now Complete thanks for the Vid.
Damn!!! Buy a casio g shock. It runs for 3 generation. Cheap but when it breaks no hard feelings..
I have a g shock but it pretty much only gets worn at night due to the light. I would never pick a g shock over a tuna or sub- or any decent watch- unless I was doing some hardcore manual labour (which I don’t really do) or extreme sports (which again I don’t do).
My Seiko Tuna is the only Watch I own that I trust to beat knife wielding muggers about the head & body when I take my 3AM strolls through Central Park.
Subs are one of the most boring watches out there in my opinion. I don't see the hype of wearing a tool watch with suit and tie despite the advertising that Rolex wanted the consumers to believe
sold my Daytona got the tuna I wear my skx013 when I dress up I love em both. the Daytona always worried about it getting scratch getting it stolen and people thought it was a show off piece and it was I didn't like that bye bye I had a tuna in the 80s I live in Hawaii and lost it diving all the guys wanted the tuna so ill never sell either. my skx 013 is as good as the Daytona and it keeps better time my tuna is spot on for months to the second the tuna is the watch. to me none better than the tuna.
i was gonna purchase a seiko tuna and after watching this video umm no more tuna. thx for the informative video
Dig your videos! Starting to watch them daily. Clean up your background. Shelves to cluddered and ditch that sign that says let me file that under.... Your to classy for that bro. Also add your cats to some of your reviews. People love cats. Google floss and watch one of his tech reviews. Wishlist for watch reviews... Helson, VDB, Stowa and Marathon Field Watch (plastic one). Anyways big fan of your channel and love the way you communicate all the details. 👍👍👍
If that Tuna was solar, it might me my ideal concept of a tool diver! Either way, it is certainly badass! I would be interested to hear what you think of Citizen’s Ecozilla. It is a much more affordable version of a serious tool watch diver.
Check out the new seiko "arnie" its solar
The Arnie reissue has a plastic case shroud. Literal trash.
@@thetimeteller RIP. To bad they seemed like they'd be cool.Maybe after market steel? Idk i have a tuna sbbn033 Ill be buried in.
I have two arnies with steel aftermarket shrout, but i want a tuna because its simplicity look
Great video Jory!
70-75% of our lives we are in informal attire,so it's the tuna tuna tuna for me.
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I have that Hamilton in stainless steel with stainless bracelet, looks like a need that rose gold to match.
If given the option to choose 1 between both of these watches I would rather choose the Seiko Tuna its unique in all the way possible. If we are into thinking that while dressing up it wont help then for that it leaves you enough budget to buy a Rolex Air King for dress watch. If we total it up we spend much less than 1 rolex sub but still be a talk of the show.
Gostei muito do canal. Parabéns!
Seiko can take a beating waaaaaaaay more than the Swiss cheese... Wore my tuna during my trip to Raja Ampat for a deep dive tour, the tuna is really a beast, more iluminations. I brought also my late dads sub, i rethink wearing it since i gotta pay alot know the SERVICES cost Heck ALOT... aint no Way im gonna Wore it, stayed in the bag until i went to a local resto. XD
In the end a Rolex is a Rolex. If you want to get something that’s different and more utilitarian get the Tuna but personally, taking the size into account, I think the Sub is more attractive to a larger variety of people.
I'm torn between the 031 or 035, thank you for the video
Great video and comparison. Honestly I would not buy either if these watches. Both are fantastic, however, as a recreational diver I don't need a saturation diver. Although it looks super cool. And the submariner is easily one of the best looking watches ever made and a fantastic tool watch. However, there are tons of watches in the$1000 dollar range that can do the same thing that the sub does. I just can't bring myself to spending that kind of money on a watch. I'll stick with my SKX.
Sam D. You can apply that theory to many genres of watches. Does one need a IWC Big Pilot to fly a Boeing 747. Nope. Most watch collectors do not use tool watches for their intended purpose. All watches are just kool horology.
Wranglerstar is a family that left urban lifestyle for country prepping... (I think of a successful Green Acres). Remember when he lost a few Benchmade knifes and tried lesser brands and still went back to the Benchmade.
Over the years have watched many of these types of channels and they each come from a different perspective... But a tool needs to be a tool and a reliable tool at that.
Do you have a video based on the Rolex bubble comment? If so send me a link please.
I agree with Jory on this one, big difference!
Maybe try comparing the 1000m Tuna instead of the cheapest Tuna version?
Nice vid but you should compare apples to apples. Automatic Emperor tuna vs rolex sub, huge difference. Cheers
Other than them both being dive watches that's where the similarities end. The Tuna is a totally unique watch.
Wow,that is a tough battle! I like both
The sub inspire from blancpain
Try Panerai with also great personality & bigger size
How about the “Baby” Tuna? The BT is smaller, cheaper, and still quartz accurate. The BT isn’t stainless steel, but it’s still rugged.