Arc B980 is Wild - Intel Battlemage GPU Leak
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Arc B980 is Wild - Intel Battlemage GPU Leak
A new leak suggest Intel may have very good value Battlemage GPUs with the Arc B980 and Arc B970 graphics cards.
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Actual budget and actual midrange gpus are what most of us want. This new idea of a $600 price point being midrange must be stopped!
Intel gpus are not going to perform like midrange cards.
$600 is modrange tho?
low end of AMD and Nvidia here in Japan cost 600+ tho...
In Sweden the midrange is like 1200$. And the rtx 4090 costs 2500$..
@@ncpvmidrange used to be around the 200-300 dollar mark.
A 450-500 dollar GPU on par with a 800 dollar GPU is very good for competiion.
If that is a real thing amd will definitely bring their prices down but nvidia doesn't care and rarely changes their prices
@@dominicharvey6048 Hence their nickname, Ngreedia
I won't get amd. I'll stick with Intel. VR is amazing on arc now with this of course I'm grabbing battlemage
If it can play games ...
@ES-jk9ncan you shut up and welcome new competition
I hope Intel can battle Nvidia with this one and launch on time.
It wont
I would like that but Intel does not know how to even compete. If they were serious of even trying to take a little away from Nvidia they would have had Battlemage out this month, even one GPU that can go against the 4070 Super would be great, and give us more choices.
it will..@@denverbasshead
@@montreauxs what has Intel launched on time in the last few years? Nothing lol. Plus Intel overhypes everything.
It wont because it will get beaten by tha rtx 5090 and it will be expensive as hell
12GB of VRAM with a performance close to the 4070Ti Super will be the same L as the 4070 Super is.
$450-$550 would be for sure better than $800 but still... Let's hope that the higher model will have 16GB as it should; to put more pressure on the market.
following patterns it'll have 24 prolly, the previous model had 8gb or 16gb, so this one should have 12 and 24
The actaul perfromance/price matters more than specs in some cases.
24 would be extreme overkill. If its around 4070 ti performance then 16 would be more than enough
@@invictious8373exactly, the arc A770 was 16GB, why would there be less on an enthusiast card!
B970 super 16gb compite 100%
If those specs turn out to be true then battlemage is gonna be a letdown. 12GB for that level of performance is gonna be just as much of an L as the 4070 SUPER. Why would Intel make the A770 16GB but the B980 12GB, that makes no sense.
Meanwhile im playing any game fine with my 1060 3gb. What yall need 10+gb for?😂😂
@@sisqobmxsomeone isn’t playing at max settings that’s for sure
@@sisqobmxprobably games that your GPU can't even launch due to lack of VRAM.
@@sisqobmx aye with a 1650 right now, anything would be an upgrade.
@@sisqobmx We are talking about current games, not games from 10 years ago.
i dont think they will run a 192-bit bus on their top cards.
Yeah thats the thing thats sticking out to me, not the 12gb
Wassup with this 192 bit bus thingy? i dont get it.please explain?
These specs just are stupid limiting your resolution to 1440p. And 12gb say it all that 4k is out of question.
@@Amy-kh3zl The memory bus is a data line in the chip that basically determines how much data can flow through the GPU/Memory at a time, small bus = slower GPU by default
@@Amy-kh3zl The term "192-bit bus" refers to the memory bus width. The memory bus is a pathway that connects the GPU to the video card's memory, allowing data to be transferred between them. The width of this bus is measured in bits and determines how much data can be transferred in a single clock cycle. for cards that are on the higher end of the product stack, usually 256-bit or more is standard.
Hopefully these leaks are very close to reality when they come out to really drop prices across the market. Drivers will most likely still be an issue but since Intel worked pretty fast updating ARC drivers, Battlemage updated drivers should be even better. Fingaz crossed cuz no true average gamer can afford a $4K midrange gpu in the future.
except you're gonna see a lot of ppl hop on the "intel sucks" bandwagon and complain still about cards being expensive while supporting Nvidia, the single company causing the prices to stay at the pricepoint they hate
@@MoriartyUC ya unfortunately true
why not 24gbs ?
@MoriartyUC everyone is supporting for intel. We need more options. The leather jacket guy needs to be humbled.
If these are going to be the specs, I'm not longer interested in intel. For me (and many others), there has to be 16GB VRAM minimum going forward, and the rumor that the B980 was going to trade blows with an RTX 4080 for less than half of it's price is the main reason I have been waiting to get a new GPU.
I mean, if it’s a lot cheaper, is less VRAM really that bad?
@@unknownposter2075 Yes, the consoles have made a 16-gig minimum going forward because that is how much VRAM they have, meaning developers will use that as the standard. Some games even now won't run well with less than 16
I think the ‘half price’ hype is what has messed this whole situation up. I have an A770 now and was looking forward to Battlemage. As of today let’s just call a 4080 $1050. I personally never expected a b980 to come within 90% of a 4080 for under $500. It doesn’t need to. Sign me up for an intel gpu that can trade blows with the 4070 ti super with 20gb of VRAM for $600+. Hell $800 if it’s actually 90% of a 4080/super. $450 was always unrealistic and now Intel is shaving down so as not to make people irate with a $600 and up price tag.
@@jasser6470 Consoles are also meant to be used with 4K TVs. If you're not playing on 4K you'll survive on 12GB for at least a couple more years.
@@jasser6470 The PS5 doesn't have 16 GB VRAM, the PS5 has 16 GB unified memory which includes the VRAM and RAM. About 4 GB is reserved by the console so in terms of VRAM the PS5 has 12 GB.
The most exciting thing about this would be the pressure put on prices, if it's even close to the leaked specs.
Im buying battlemage just because it sounds cool.
amen to that
Well that's smart 🎉😂
Battle Marge Simpson
Amen
Honestly if this is the case then Intel isn't going to be the type of competition I was hoping they'd be. I really thought they were going to bridge the gap between software, hardware, and price. With AMD being the cheaper, hardware focused giant. And Nvidia being the expensive, software based giant. I hoped Intel would be the best of both sides third player. Already it looks like they're going to start compromising the hardware and immediately that makes me wary that they'll even find a strong foothold in the GPU market.
Not many companies want to be referred to as the budget company. Rather stick to the high end with high end profit margins then some mediumish profits
True, this leak (probably fake) would mean close to 0 sales.
But the 12GB of memory is a strong indicator of it being fake given the interview we saw with PC World.
i was really hoping for an intel 4080-7900xtx level card.
Intel has almost infinite money, they will catch up, I believe.
@@sasquatchcrewsame. Have to crawl before you walk and I imagine they are learning a lot through these first efforts.
If they truly end up managing to produce a model close to the 4070 Ti they’d better have a 24GB VRAM variant or a wider bus to allow 16GB configurations
definately curious about the new B980 now. not so much gaming but for my workload.
If they choose to go with 12GB of ram and expect to get more money for it then I will not be buying a Battlemage card. I went with a 16GB A770 a few months ago to play around with to see what it was like. So far I've been pleased with it as everything I play with the exception of a couple games gets very high fps. Why would I go backwards from 16GB of ram down to 12GB and want to pay more? The speed of the ram doesn't matter if you're taking away the extra capacity. It's like trying to to me this new 12oz cup is better than my current 16oz cup because the new cup is made from stronger materials even though it has less capacity. The durability/speed doesn't mean squat if it can no longer hold 16oz/16GB.
If the B980 is on the same node as the A770 it might end up being the same cost to manufacture as the A770 when it launched, but the end cost of the card is determined by the volume in which they sell(with a base cost for materials and labor if effectively infinite numbers sell, like for Nvidia)
The manufacture line is a small part of what goes into a product, and if you dont sell much of a given product, the design might be the majority of the cost. but economies of scale means the 4070TI could have sold for $549 if Nvidia knew the 40 series would sell as well as it has(they had good info to say it would sell better than it has so far)
FYI the A770 was likely a loss leader costing between the 3070TI and the 4080 with all 3 cards being of the 400mm 256 bit class of hardware but all on different nodes (A770 node closer to the cost of the 4080 node than 3070 node). What we dont know for sure is weather the 3070TI and 4080 are overpriced, or if the A770 is under priced, most likely A770 was under-priced with no margin, or even a loss, though unlikely without investor buy-in
lol the 30 and 40 series cards especially the 40 were way overpriced and gpus are even cheaper to make for intel cause they dont need to lease time from tsmc cause they have their own manufacturing facilities
@@khirasier wow
If B980 and B970 comes out late this year like Q3 or Q4 then it'll be bad since the RTX 50 series will be ready to launch and the RTX 5070 and RTX 5060 will make the Battlemage GPUs obsolete.
RTX 5090 will probably launch Q4 this year
RTX 5080 will probably launch Q1 2025
RTX 5070 / 5070 Ti will probably launch Q2 2025
RTX 5060 / 5060 Ti will probably launch Q3 2025
So in other words Battlemage will last for 6 months until it'll be destroyed by the RTX 5070.
I wouldn't say that - I'm expecting Q2 at the latest. And plus if Nivdia's pricing isn't any different from the 40 Series - the majority will buy 5090 and 5070/ti
They will release sooner. Intel should be aware of the RTX 5000 series.
@@user-bj6mv7ok5q exactly
I bet you those 50 series card price will be crazy high for only 10% performance gain
@@AaronDaDon 50 series will definitely be more than 10% lol. It's a completely new node and architecture. 5070 will mostly be 10% faster than the 4080.
My Radeon RX 6800 has 16GB GDDR6 and a 256 bit memory bus. But, only 12GB on the Battlemage cards?
They are prolly lower end models.
Good content.I suspect your math on power for the speculative B980 is optimistic by ~10%. 270W seems like a better guess.
I do not understand why they are not capable to make GPUs with 150+ CU‘s/XE‘s… RTX Path Tracing is the main thing on gaming now! As you can see, older games are remastered pointing to RTX.
RTX is awful. It's still a very new technology and it'll likely be 7-10 years before it's matured enough to be viable for the average consumer to run on average hardware.
Right the GPU would last longer as new games come out.
Cmon intel, dont go full clown mode like Nvidia..Give your flagship more than 12GB VRAM and a 256 bit bus at least. If it trades blows with a 4070 its not worth upgrading from my 6700XT, nevertheless I hope for a serious impact on the upper mid range GPU market. Its not easy to fk this up, Intel !
Came for the news... Stayed on pause admiring (or trying to since it's blurred out) marvel at the axe/hammer in the background! 😮
It would make way more sense if they kept the B980 at 16gb like the A770 and the B970 12gb from the 8gb in the A750. So I hope the vram leak is wrong. Would be nice as well to have the 64xe cores. But them not putting out at least the 56 core version will be a make or break moment in weather I buy another Arc card or not.
12gb vram is dealbreaker for me because i play in 4k(lg c1 48"). Currently on 6800xt and theres no way i am buying 12gb card.
A770 also can ... just but it needs the 256 bus and 16gb. Battlemage is not going to have what it needs past 1440p.
Hopefully they can tackle power consumption of the new cards too. Original Alchemist hard ridiculous idle draw, I'm not sure if they ever fixed it.
Powerful gpus are awesome but I think a lot of companies producing games need to focus on optimization because no matter how powerful the graphics cards are they won't be able to keep up with a game that isn't optimized.
Sounds good. Hope they can do it with these specs / prices. I'm interested.
Wonder when we'll start seeing this architecture in mini pcs
The monstrous cache could make up for lower vram
True but vram has its advantages.
Nvidia’s gamble was that you could get around the need for so much extra VRAM with a better cache, and they were right. If ARC has such a unique L2 cache architecture, it could excel in unexpected ways.
I bought a ASROCK PHANTOM GAMING Intel ARC A770 16GB card in December 2023. I am very please with the performance I am getting from this card. Now I am currently having a single issue that is a bit frustrating. When Intel ARC Control attempts to find an update for the drivers, the software times out while searching, so I am unable to update the drivers without manually deleting them & then it somehow finds the most current driver update & downloads it. This isn't a huge issue... though it is frustrating. From what I have read in forums, this issue has been happening for a while. Intel also hasn't made it clear from what I have found that they have a fix for this.
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I really, really hope that I can pick up an upgrade worth buying this year. I grabbed a 3080 FE right when the mining boom ended a year and a half ago for $525 bucks. I'm surprised it hung in there at 1440P as long as it has considering I play almost exclusively AAA single player games. Thank goodness for super sampling tech I suppose.
Now money isn't the issue, it really is a principle thing *_for me._* When the 30 series launched mining made both the 3K and 6K series from AMD absurd for almost their entire generation, so I stuck with a 5700 non XT for 2 years longer than expected. Now with OLED's appearing like they will finally come down in price sometime between this Summer and next, I'll most likely be picking up a 32" something or other when they are available at 1440P+/144hz+ w/variable refresh rates for $700 or less. Let's talk GPU's though. Pretty much all of the information about GPUs is _"Haha Haa!!! If you want a high-end card you are stuck with Nvidia!"_ Now unfortunately, _"High-End"_ apparently just means 1440P/High/Ultra Textures at 60 FPS with Raytracing on (at least Global Illumination which seems to be more taxing than reflections) which is absurd considering we are 6 years into the technology and have barely been able to move the needle, going from, say a 15 out of 100 with Turing, to 35 out of 100 with Ampere to 45 out of 100 (100 being full raytraced 2 bounce lighting, not balls to the wall 6 bounce gradually diminishing pathtracing with accurate reflections as we'd need to cut the initial numbers in half were that the case) and the prices are a bit ridiculous.
So what am I hoping for? Either 50% better raster than the 4090 with 75% stronger RT for $2K or less *OR* 4080 Super levels for $600 to get by for another couple of years as just like I can't bring myself to pay $1500-$2000 for the monitor specs I currently want, I simply cannot justify paying over $2000 for a GPU. I can't even justify $1600 for 4090 levels of performance and they haven't been at MSRP since August? If I needed a GPU for my main source of income it would be no big deal, but for gaming? Idk, that's a 2 week vacation in Columbia including spending money. It's a down payment on a $20K car (I have a 2023 Honda HRV and a 2021 Silverado, both paid so I don't need a new _used_ car, that's just an example) or, well you get the point. So $600 bucks for 4070 Ti'ish performance is _almost_ there if the 5090 under-performs (which it might on the gaming side with more and more focus being put on AI) or comes in at, say $2199.99. And yes, $200 extra on a $2000 would have me saying *_"Nope"_* out of the afore mentioned "principle." Just because I can afford something does not make it a good purchase, and I don't want to be part of the problem by helping Nvidia and AMD with their _"Market Leader Monopoly"_ bullshit that the SEC and FTC obviously don't give a shit about. I normally want government to stay out of things outside of fixing the roads and helping the elderly/sick/infirmed/destitute. I love cops but hate when I know more about the Constitution than they do and firmly believe their qualified immunity is almost as ridiculous as their insistence on illegally obtaining ID's under threat of arrest...but in the case of Nvidia it's another matter altogether. GPU tech is to important to let a company controlled by shareholders and a CEO whose net worth is tied directly to their share price to set said prices. It's would be akin to the government locking up all of the auto patents for decades and allowing Ford or GM to set the prices of cars at whatever they felt like. Or not imposing price limits on standard oil and eventually breaking them up and being much firmer with their price controls moving forward. It ended up making the Rockefellers and the majority of other big players involved more money in the end while also making Cars, or in the latter case oil and gasoline much, much more affordable.
I don't hate Jensen, Lisa Su, Nvidia, AMD or Intel. I just want fair pricing which Nvidia seems incapable of providing while AMD has been content just *_"Slotting their cards in"_* as opposed to saying _"We've got 6 years. We'll take a 30% for 4 generations and if we can't get to 40% market share we'll have to go back to the drawing board."_ Intel seems like they are trying, but they are just so far behind. AMD is too the moment you turn raytracing on in heavy workloads. Ahh well, enough of my bitchathon essay, I just hope we have a great generation for everyone, especially the people who are in the $200-$500 price range, as let's face it, if you look where we were with Turing for $1200 bucks and where we are now, the progress hasn't been all that incredible.
there 3 models....40 xe , 56xe and 80xe in not gonna be leak until reveal, they all been last minute changes in architecture changes by introducing bigger cache and different memory options to make it more affordable while 80 xe is on separate class and tier for other users for intel haven't thought price structure yet for 4080 and 7900xtx killer...its more like 7900xtx gonna under perform in everything for something might cost $600 best part....their is rumor it has memory bandwidth 1tb closer to 4080 memory bandwidth due full memory bus from 192 cut down bus to 384bit
Whoa whoa whoa, adamantine???
They put that stuff on here?
I'm really hoping they're actually using it for performance and not for some security feature. That would be very, very interesting in keeping the card relevant in it's second half of its life
Adamantine is ofc slow for cache, as we know it that is. So it'll be more there for keeping the card above 30 fps or something
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I will buy the B980
We need Arc to succeed
If these specs end up being true, that would be pretty dissapointing to be honest.
The specs may not be real performance that can be something entirely different like
outperforming NVIDIA.
256 to 192 wtf! Disappointing if you ask me. Intel is being sneaky just like the others.
@@wjack4728 don t you see the 512 mb of adamantine cache ? or that doesn t matter for you
It would be great if there was also a version that comes with a non cut-down die. Drivers still need to improve though.
I don’t mind 12GB VRAM GPUs if the price is right. The Max I would spend for a GPU that has 12GB on a 192 bit memory bus is $300. Any more than that and I should expect to see 16GB VRAM on a 256 memory bus.
Ideally I would try and get 16GB VRAM knowing that 12GB is allready reaching its limit without downgrading settings.
Agreed.
@@AnonymousUser-ww6nsActually 8GB is in the limits , 12GB will get you covered for atleast 5 years.
After doing some research if you stick at 1080p it should be fine for 5 years but at 1440p more like a couple years.
That’s why’s I’m saying 16GB VRaM on a 256 bit memory bus should be the starting point.
In summary
1080p max for 5 years 12GB VRAM
1440p max for 5 years 16GB VRAM
4K max for 5 years at least 20GB or more VRAM.
Do not Buy 8GB VRaM GPUS unless you are on an extreme budget and you are okay with lowering settings or playing older titles before 2022z
BROO JUST GOT ARC A770💀💀
You can always sell it
A 56% generation jump is really good. A couple more generations, and they could close the gap with team green, and red.
интересно если они выпустят B980 какое типа питание у него будет 2 на 8 pin или как щас использует Nvidia 12-й новый разъём
Thanks for the Windows 10 key recommendation!
looks like a typical 20-30% performance gain
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Hey, I have a question. I have a gtx 1080, and I'm looking to upgrade at some point. I also play vr games, though I'm not sure that matters for which card I get. I've been wanting a 4080 or an a770, from a 1080 do you think the b980 would be a better upgrade for me? 😅
I own an Arc A770 and it's a pretty enjoyable card that still does need some polishing here and there. I really wouldn't get arc yet if you are planning on using it for VR gaming as there isn't really any native driver support for VR. You might be able to get some Meta headsets or WMR headsets to work through Virtual Desktop but headsets that require the use of Direct Display Mode like the Valve Index are not supported. Really hoping Intel releases a driver soon for native VR support when Battlemage releases as they've been pretty quiet with VR as of late. Should wait and see for Battlemage!
@@PixTure I do have a quest 3, however a few years from now I would like to get a pcvr headset, guess I'll have to wait and see
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damn. Intel Pulling up hard with the gpus.
12gb is not fine 16gb standard its 2024 we aint stuck in the year 2012
“Stuck in 2012” the gtx 680 had only 2gb. No gpu in 2012 was 12gb (not including enterprise gpus)
what time are we lookin at for an anouncemenet?
lol
If Intel's new GPU (battlemage) can match or beat AMD's RX7700xt at $350 - I would buy it!
just passing through enjoying the vram salt from all these people that dont actually buy gpus and just complain
lol
ngl, these Arc look sexy and their specs sound really potent.
Hope Intel can bring some live into the stagnant GPU market again.
I am only worried about their drivers but Intel seems to catch up.
wassup my friend, so I assume Arc is the future?
Seems like a competitive card, good video btw
I wonder if Dosbox (original) will not work in Windows like with Alchemist.
I don't think they cut down
Thanks for the CD Key site!
The leak is still fake since the Intel guy in the PCWorld interview hinted at all the Battlemage cards being given 16+ GB of ram. And here the 40 core version only has 12GB.
i have the feeling that this will come out to close to nvidia new rtx 5 series, this should be out right now
If they come in at that price to performance then no wonder Nvidia did that super refresh.
So this card is comparable to the 4070ti-4080????? Apologies if I misread but I’m just curious
Even if its reaches 4070 while being 200 dollars cheaper who doesn’t want it?
really hope they release the 980, if its successful enough it would destabilize the entire midrange of this upside down GPU market. Also would be more than willing to spend an extra 50-100 bucks at those specs to retain 16gb of vram. these games use more and more every year, also modded games use an immense amount.
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12gb is not fine at all for the kind of performance these cards might deliver. 12GB is the minimum acceptable for midrange cards, with low end being 8gb. These cards are more on the medium to high range performance field based on specs.
What's the point of getting a B980 if it only offers 12gb vram. Card will die quickly. Games are already pushing beyond 8gb vram at 1080p, so push those 1440p or 2160p in and you might just come across problems in memory hungry games.
Of course this might not be an issue if people rely on upscalers in the future, but the performance this card here offers is way too high currently, for the low amount of vram.
It should have been 12gb or 16gb for b970 and then 16gb or 20gb for b980. They should actually release versions with more vram for higher msrp. As it is, if they release cards with good msrp and this kind of performance, i still won't find it interisting investing on something like this, knowing i will have to be buying a new GPU in 3-4 years because of vram issues.
I bought my 1080ti at launch, back then, games were pushing for 4gb vram usually. Those extra 7GB the 1080ti included made the card survive this long. If it was 8gb, it would have been dead by now as the rtx 3060 would be kicking it into the shadow realm with those 12gb, despite being slightly slower. Same principle applies here, if someone wants to milk this purchase for like a decade, they won't be able to because of that low VRAM. This is no different than buying a ##60 card from nvidia, which will be relevant for like 5 years at best, then it struggles.
If intel wants to make any sense of this release and be attractive, they need to release 2 variants of each card with different vram options as i described earlier.
Let's hope they fix this mistake like they did the 8GB A770.
I wonder why they don't add more VRAM. As I understand it, the price of the memory itself is only like $30 or so. I can see why NVIDIA would be stingy (to entice people to buy datacenter cards for AI), but since Intel is a newcomer, I'd think they would be more inclined to offer as compelling of a deal as they can, within reason. Is there some kind of technical hurdle that makes it much more expensive to support more VRAM than the bare cost of the memory or something?
@@ababcb3005 No, just greed. AMD is providing sufficient VRAM just fine. So does Intel so far.
Even my 1080ti's vram is almost maxed out by games like Resident Evil 2 Remake at 1440p. I'd hate to see how much worse it would have been if they put less cram on it.
@@UltimateGattai Damn, 1080ti is insane to still be able to run 1440p with games released so recently!
I’m rooting for a full blue build. I’m tired of NVIDIA business practices.
What about AMD?
@@anitaremenarova6662 amd is trash
@@anitaremenarova6662 AMD may need more time to catch up with NVIDIA . Rdeon make good GPUs but their prices are similar to NVIDIA.
@@anitaremenarova6662 They are cool, but DLSS and RTX are a big thing for me.
My only concern is that when this card finally releases, we'll be looking at 50 series cards
The 12GB downgrade would be ridiculous - the main selling point of the A770 is that it's the cheapest decent card with 16GB RAM. However, that's not the main problem here - Intel have tweaked the firmware after release to peg the minimum fan speed at 30%, which means that even if you hack the control panel to adjust the fan curves (which can't even be done under Linux, because no control panel) _and_ you have a sound-deadened case, the fans audibly ramp up and down constantly every five seconds or so. Fine if you only run your machine for games, but completely unusable if it's your daily driver and you do any work on it. Worse, they've outright said that this is a new design decision to be carried forward to Battlemage, and will not be changed no matter how much users complain.
Have an ARC770 LE and its getting faster from Dreiver to driver, insane !
Actually, this is throwing major shots in the market. Most people upgrade or aim for whatever nvidias xx60/xx70 skus are. So targeting the midrange with such an aggressive price will absolutely take marketshare from amd and nvidia. Why pay more for less when you can get more and pay allot less.
Get more for less money? Thats blasphemy for nvidia fanboy shitshow...
that’s defenetely wild
For that price IT WOULD be amazing, as Navida has been doing us dirty on cards specs and prices
I'm dissapointed :S I only bought Intel ARC bc of the 16GB RAM.... :( I hope Battlemage will have at least 16GB.....
I own a Intel Arc A750 and I love it! I am buying Battlemage the moment they touch the market!
Cost matters but I feel the 980 seems like it should have 16gb. 12gb on the 970 seems to make sense. No idea if they can do it but it would be nice. The other guys next gen isn't too far away.
12gb is a no go for me.. I have the A770. Was looking forward to Battlemage.
Don't cut it down Intel... produce a beast..
A stands for alpha test, B stands for beta test.
Mid range should be no larger than the lochness monster.... $350
would love to see intel come in with something seriously competitive and shake this market up dramatically.
Man I like how Intel naming scheme wise started at 700 and is now at 900, now we can say the 980 is relevant.
So the 970 will be RX7700xt performance and the 980 will be RX7900xt performance for 450?
If the performance comes true, i believe the price will be 650 instead of 450.
If it's 450, i go out and buy one the moment it's launched.
There is a scaling issue at Intel it seems like.
Perf per watt the B970 is extremely competitive, but it just doesn't have the performance gate that the 4070 TI does. Not sure why that is mentioned and other cards are blurred. Weird tbh.
I will say, with the reg 4070 @500 bucks, this looks like a good cheap alternative to a 4070.
But, other than that, its annoying no one is trying to make graphics cards that compete at the upper tiers.
Okay so the B980 wants to compete with the 4070Ti correct?
This is the gpu in waiting for
The figures are dropping everytime I hear something new.
I have my doubts they will make it this efficient....
Comparing the leaked specs to cards that have been retired and replaced by more powerful and better value versions is borderline misleading, man.
At least intel is trying and doing something with their drivers, something especially AMD should be doing. Honestly I thought that A750 before this was going to stink, but turns out it's actually good for dirt cheap, especially after a bunch of driver updates!
Thanks for the WIn key man 😉
Imma buy it probbably
its a fair price but the 512mb L4 cache for what is L4 cache?
if the b 980 is good at gaming and has a good driver for linux i buy it instant for this prices if it costs between 350-450€ :D
I guess they are trying to use it for card optimisation, kinda like optane did with disks?
I really wanna see a 4070 ti super performance competitor with 20gb of ram but about $100-150 cheeper
I feel like the new intel stuff won't be faster than 4070 and it will consume a lot more power than the other options, while matching AMD equivalent card in price. That's my prediction
they already messed up if they launch these cards with a sub 200 bit bus, there are already games where low bandwidth makes them nigh unplayable..let alone 12gb of vram
Ok then, give an example of those games. The 980 held up till late 2020 releases for 1080p.
@@dankmemes3153 they cant none of these people actually know how memory architecture work.. They would buy a gt 710 if it had 16GB of vram.
@enragedbacon470 I have the arc a770 and im not downgrading to 12gb vram.
@@700mobster thats nice, considering the performance level of the intel A770 would never need 16GB to begin with, its a mid range card, you would hit a gpu performance bottleneck before you hit a vram problem, even if your A770 had 12GB of ram the performance would be the same.
@enragedbacon470 Not exactly, I play minecraft with a ton of mods and shader packs and have easily passed the 12gb mark in vram. Games like resident evil 4 and hogwarts have also utilised more than 12gb vram on my card. The point being, personally, I won't be getting a battlemage gpu if they downgrade the vram, the memory bus I might be more flexible on cause it does have more variables.
I bet that b980 will mine really good.
I like Nvidia cards and was planning on buying one for my new build. But, this time around, I will be waiting for Battlemage.
I would completely buy the B980
Im just waiting for b980.
Imagine if Intel is the company to get the GPU industry back in line price wise.
I will believe it when I see it, but I hope it's true!
With their A770 launching with a 16GB option, a Battlemage with anything less is a loss. Frankly I was really looking forward to a solid offering from Intel to take on the 4070 and win decidedly. As an owner of an A770, I really applaud Intel for jumping in and slinging it. The A770 16GB is a fantastic 1080p card for most everything except MSFS 2020. But you absolutely cannot enter round 2 with a neutered VRAM count to fight in the raster 4K arena. It all matters.
I play on a 1440p monitor with an A770 and on cod I get 110-120 Consistently
It's now way Intel thinkings 12GB is okay. Only 20GB makes sense
I've been using my a770 for 4k upscaling at 60fps on a budget tv and it does really well, only thing letting it down atm for me is I mainly play assetto corsa which is dx11 native, yet to try the dxvk mod for assetto but it should help it a lot, often see vram near cap on most of the games I play too.. 12gb is not enough vram for their b980 flagship card
be interesting to know what you cpu/dram spec is as I am a avid flight Sim'er and play MSFS and DCS @1440p on both with loads of payware and FSLTL on MSFS, at 80% all ultra settings and LOD at 140 and I get amazing FPS(30+ at high load scenery ) and no stutteres or CTDs.. its a very CPU intensive Sim..
@paulcrocker7347 from what I've seen msfs isn't great on any arc card still, I'm running an 11600k and 64gb 3600mhz ddr4, ideally need a 12600k or higher to use deep link features for more fps
@@MAJ_T_Bagger oh yeah definitely be your cpu Im afraid..Im on 13900k and fast 7000 32gb ram.. also a fast nvme 4tb m.2 drive also makes a huge difference..