Jim Cornette Reviews MJF vs. Hechicero at AEW Forbidden Door 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- From Episode 539 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Can't wait until Jim comments on the return of his favorite wrestler. Good old Marko Stunt.
Must be desperate for stunted growth to reappear.
that was completely overshadowed by john cena’s retirement announcement lol
What? What!?
Dwarf Dong Sucker 😂
@@leviathan2515He’s finally giving up acting eh?
He turned heel but his promo on collision had the typical MJF clichés. Shouting, swearing and an internet wrestling insider comment. Thanks uncle Dave.
WWE: “bidding war of 24? Nah, we’re good.”
MJF: “Time for a tattoo to show my loyalty!”
Wwe would never offer him what Tony would be willing to do to keep him
@@mmabuff101 Yeah, potential movie roles, not getting dropped on his head, they sure can't offer him that.
Pretty Much lol
I forgot all about that lol
I sure hope that was one of those 90 day it'll come off tats.
Didn’t think Aew could get any worse. I was wrong bc now they brought back the mini goof that weighs less than Riho. My god
They announce Riho I said fuck no 💀🤣
Don’t forget Sabian was on last night too
@@Melo_Soul she's cute
Hey at least he’s bigger than Cole 😂
@@revelstatus2346only if you're into children.
Since Marko Stunt has returned, he can finally get the AEW World Championship run he deserved
And also bring back James E James E Corny You and me intro from JCE just like the old times.
@@pinroshan020I have no idea why they stopped with the intros. Was it a rights issue?
Hope that tattoo was worth it, buddy.
It’d be so great if he revealed it was actually a realistic temp tattoo that he keeps having reapplied ahead of appearances 😆
it looks intentionally simple because i think he plans to cover it up when this contract is up. i think he wants to go to wwe but i dont think he wants to go to wwe until they are uncensored on netflix.
It’s more a tramp stamp than it is a tattoo at this point.
Such good shit pal 😂😂😂
That business with Adam Cole nuked his career, he tried turning back into heel MJF on Collision tonight, and it was the same thing. Call people in the arena inbred, tell the "they threw quarters and called me a jew" shitick I don't think he can recover in my eyes
I can't get "He-che-che-chia" out of my head. Thanks, guys.
Should be a keyboard sound effects. Something like synth music and a bunch of jim Cornettes saying he che che che chia.
🤔 Or maybe like a Hawaiian welcoming song.
Endless possibilities
Same
Whenever Jim says Hechicero it reminds me of 🎶Canyonero ...🎶
broo my first language is spanish and i can not explain how i feel right now i have to stop laughing first jahahahaha
Was this "Thanks Guys" in a Learning Tree tone?😂
I've had just about enough of MJF. How the hell did we get here?
Jim saying it was the least offensive match on the show is appropriate considering Uncle Dave's star ratings for this show, and MJF getting the lowest star rating of the show
His heel promo tonight cemented him as nothing more than a one hit wonder.
Akin to the likes of Will Butcher & Jeremy Lin
why? genuine question
The Will Butcher reference kill me
@@kipdaedricartifact because it contained all of the usual suspects of a stereotypical MJF promo (which can also be applied to CM Punk if i'm being honest lol):
-Cheap insider reference
-Podcaster reference (in this case Cornette)
-i'm better than you blah blah blah
and to cap it off, he opted to do a "You people" promo
Linsanity was fun while it lasted.
@@royconestoga7326 so was MJF being the hottest property in wrestling :(
I love that MJF just continues to expose himself as another goof that fits in perfectly with his clan in aew
MJF is just another pipsqueak nobody goof.
At least he got himself over (once) & has a huge money mark to gift him millions.
Unfortunately, you're right. I had hope, he was great with Punk, but you're right. Good for him, he got paid.
He fell off big time
I love how you exposed yourself as a goof by posting this comment. Anyone who thinks MJF was wrong to resign with AEW for the money they would pay him to stay are the purest form of dumb marks. Just saying
@@shawngreenidge3591 What?
MJF returns after 'The Devil' reveal and double crossing... nothing.
Roman returns, a monumental crack in the earth's core.
I'm sorry Jim but i don't think MJF is the draw you think he is. Anyone can shoot and curse on the mic and become a 'star'
Yup. He's becoming like Shane Douglas. Was a star in ecw . But once he left there and couldn't swear every other word. He had nothing else to offer.
Nah, Shane was a solid worker. He proved that in his late WCW run. He just got overshadowed by all of the better (and some not so better) talent around him. Douglas was just as good as Jeff Jarrett.
I don't want to sound like a hater but I haven't found MJF interesting lately. I'm not sure what it is.
The fact that there’s barely anyone interesting for him to work with plus Tony’s “booking”
He's talented but it does appear he's getting exposed a bit. He's not the guy you bank on as the top dawg/ big draw of the company that Roman is or Cody is.
@@southbeachtalentBased on what? Cody was mid in AEW.
@@8thaccount535 losing to Jericho and not being able to challenge for the world title was just a miserable decision for all involved. The only gimmicks that can survive without challenging for the belt are the strange/ mythological ones that have their own independent spot on the cards and ppvs completely separate from your world champ. Andre, Undertaker, Kane, those types all come to mind. Cody is not that type of character. His run became despised immediately when they realized every segment was a "Cody segment" completely all about him as he was restricted on furthering his goal to be world champ. It never should have been that way
What else can he do though? We’ve seen it all from him (MJF) already. There’s a ceiling in that company and there’s only so high he can go! 🤷🏻♂️
Glad to see Hechichero drag a respectable match out of the kangaroo kicking quarter catcher 😭😭😭😂😂🤤
Jim is going to lose his mind when he finds out that Marko Stunt came back to AEW.
forgot aew existed after this mitb 🥴
Happened on Collision so there’s a good chance he’ll never know.
but jim like rey mysterio hypocrite
@@kyleday5026 Rey would look like Kevin Nash standing next to Marko
@@kyleday5026rey is actually good
MFT > MJF
true.
Travis needs to draw Corny as an adult Butters trying to sell MFTs
Correction: MJF isn't a ratings mover. He's had several show opening segments so he gets the Sheldon rub.
He f'ING bombed his promo last night. The crowd reaction was "Bobby Fish "I mean, folks...where's the lie?" levels even in a building with 1500 Dubballos.
It’s always funny when Jim can’t full on shit on someone and has to find ways to begrudgingly say quasi positive stuff about them.
It’s FTR syndrome.
@@Thurmanatr16it’s fun to go back & listen to that episode.
I really thought MJF was a generational company changing talent just a few years ago Smh
It’s been a fast fall from grace.
Only marks thought that. Some of us have been saying for years, he fucking sucks
Jim still thinking MJF is a draw
He is compared to the other clowns on the roster
@@javi994MidJF is not a draw. He is trash just like rest of the lot. Mina Sharakawa with her boobies outdrew MJF. That's all it is there to say 😂
@@javi994how do you figure? Ratings and ticket sales are still bad even after he returned
@@cosborne06 The bad outweigh the good. Its plain as day with AEW, you could debut John Cena there and the ratings would nosedive soon after because of Tony's booking.
@@xS1D3SW1P3xno, he was champions when this ratings collapse happened
When Jim sees Marko back
I had no idea because I changed channels when The Scapegoat walked out.
MJF, king of the 680K ratings.
I went from not missing any matches featuring MJF to not watching any of them. Good job AEW.
MJF has never been less interesting than what he is now. MJF did all he could in AEW. With the expectation of his collision promo this week being the best promo he did since his return. Him vs garcia is a joke feud. Its like ric flair feuding with alex wright
I'm just waiting for Travis and his illustrations on Marko Stunt returning back
Turning MJF heel again is a perfect example of why Tony is a bad booker. You don't need MJF to be a heel to have an edge. You just need a believable heel for him to fued with. But that's not something Tony can create.
That could of been Christian
Tbf I’m convinced that he wanted to return heel and the face act was just to get past the inevitable return pop & make the actual heel part more impactful.
I can’t stop thinking about Jim coming out with the new bloodline decked out in a black suit with a red tie and red tennis racket battling with Heyman on the mic after that last episode…
Invert the suit & tie color and you got yourself a heat drawing Bloodline Corny
Seek help weirdo
it’s sad mjf has become as interesting a random match on rampage.
he’s fallen OFF bad.
Mjf has fallen off bad 😂💯
688 k, I wouldn’t call MJF a rating mover unless it’s moving in the trash. JC you gotta call a spade a spade 😂
They'd be
@@rupe82these are some of the lowest ratings they’ve ever had and he’s in the show
@@rupe82 He's a big part of the reason they're down under 700k now.
He hadn’t called out FTR for drawing nothing either.
@@rupe82he draws 500k without BBT
"Hech"...lol. I'm just happy to finally hear Jim pleased with a superstar from the Mexico promotions.
Wait, so the mjf heel turn just made the Devil storyline look pointless like theres no payoff or what?? 😂
Yes
They literally pressed the reset button because it wasn’t connecting to the fans anyway.
To be fair to AEW, that whole thing was a mess. AEW killing it off at DoN was for the best, no one was doing good off it and we've no idea when Cole is coming back.
Jim Cornette I agree with all your wrestling takes except for MJF. How can you praise MJF despite showing his mark attitude and illogical act since last year while dissing Miz who is one of the most reliable stars of the last decade. The irony 😂
MJF is truly Mid and he's a one trick pony with his mic work. Even his current heel change is shit. He retort to edgelord insults and IWC shenanigans while you equate him in the same level as Punk or Cena.
This was the first match on PPV! But if you count the pre show matches this was the sixth match of the night!
Well he wanted to stay there lol. I don't wanna hear a complaint lol
A friendly reminder that this guy was once the most effective heel in the business and one of their best unknown talents when this company started. His MJF 2020 "We Deserve Better" shirt was the only thing outside of the FTR shirt that I bought from their garbage AEW merch as the message still stands.
Now thanks to Jericho's advice, the IWC/smarks constant cheering, Tony Clown's shit tier booking and his comedy segments with Adam Smol, he is doing throwaways with CMLL guys at Forbidden Snore, complete with a tattoo that is not going to age well.
All while his other MLW compatriot, Jacob Fatu is already mixed in with the top heel faction on SD battling Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns when he returns.
Did you actually watch forbidden door?
That's hilarious. He was "effective" by AEW standards, but he was nowhere near the most effective heel in the business.
@@MattyOompsno one should watch that turd ppv
Could not have said it better, this is his last 1.5 years in a nutshell.
Wrestling must have been at it's death throes if he was the best heel.
Pathetic.
Travis does it again - Mr. James E. CornMet!
My headcanon has him in the Mr. Met costume on the infamous day Mr. Met gave the birdie and Russo being on the receiving end of it
MJF has lost ALL his luster that it took him 5 years to develop. Tony ruins EVERYONE.
Think about it. Danielson? A joke now. Wardlow and Hobbs? Invisible. The Acclaimed? Glorified jobbers. The Dark Order? Invisible. Where the fuck is Scorpio Sky?
Page? Worthless. Cole and his crew? Nothing. Poor Ricky Starks? MIA.
Miro? Didn’t work for him brother.
House of Black? Malakai hasn’t won one singles title. Afterthought.
Seriously, who is a STAR in this company? I want to see their Merch sales for 2024. A Clown Show.
Cassidy bucks learning tree... i hurt my thumbs typing this 😅
Bingo. Right on the money. They have a fair few that could be stars, but they've been booked to oblivion.
It's an achievement to ruin MJF, it shouldn't be possible.
There wasn't much to ruin. I called it ever since MJF took that swirlie from Jericho that he was damaged goods, but his fans were still convinced that putting the world title on him was going to magically fix everything. And suprise, surprise, it only further exposed him.
He’s paying 100+ million/year for talent contracts, and all aew fans care about is which free agent he’s signing next
If it was last year, WWE would certainly have tried to get MJF. It doesn't matter how they would've used him, but just to put a road block in AEW's advancing to catch them up.
Right now tho? Triple H was probably like, no thanks! You can keep this MJF and maybe even get half a dozen more of these. Also, good luck! 😎😎
For a guy that doesn’t like football, Jim sure sounds like an NFL coach breaking down film. It’s fantastic stuff.
Marco Stunt battles Lio Rush for Tony's new Midget Heavyweight Championship!
This type of breakdown shows how much knowledge Jim has. So much stuff that most fans don't think about when it comes to calling a match.
Although Jim is bad at spotting draws.
Jim, I really enjoy when you do reviews like this.
Problem: MJF can't learn too much because of the people he's decided to surround himself with.
the hell are you saying. I have seen his videos from his WWE try outs, he did not learn at all. same old MIDgetJF.
@@lsj6721 I'm talking about being a part of a company that has a group of guys that KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, and then having the opportunity to work them on a nightly basis. Like, say WWE.
Besides Danielson, MJF is probably the best guy at all anemic. So unless he works Danielson every night for 4 nights a week, he's not going to learn anything. He chose to stay at aew. He chose to stay there instead of go somewhere else and get better. That's what I"m saying. Is it more clear now?
@@SlimSlashie he had those kind of people when WWE rejected him, and some are finally in WWE. Remember that Jim is praising him for his work, despite what you are saying, which says that he already had his influences… this is his way from the beginning.
@@lsj6721 He worked with great workers 4 days a week? For how long? I didn't know that, you're right dude, he IS trash. If he worked with good workers 4 days a week for a year and this is as good as he can get, he's lucky tony is on blow.
@@lsj6721 You don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you?
Such a quiet crowd for an MJF home crowd. And MJF sure wrestled like he didn’t give a hoot either lol. This match wasn’t bad but it sure wasn’t good either imo
This thumbnail is the Metsiest of all Corny thumbnails and I love it
i love it when Jim cooks and breaks down the matches.
Jim loses credibility every time he praises mjf
Exactly MJF is the mark JC claims to hate
And FTR
i love when cornette explains subtle psychology of the match like not having hechycech outsmart mjf
That guy looked like Bain from Batman 😂
Jim as Mr. Met is pretty funny
HAHA! BASEBALL HEAD JIM FUNNY! (made me laugh)
i'm ready for cornyyy to speak about fatus debut match that went down tonight!!! 🐺
I thought MJF was wearing Islanders colors
Indeed, the 'J' was shaped like a hockey stick on the back of the trunks, similar to the Islanders logo.
All of you are wrong. clearly it was for none other than Syracuse 😂😂😂
Mjf isnt a draw. He got hurt when he was on a roll. Came back to NOTHING. Mjf like most of aew is just pretending to be other great wrestlers.
One of the major joys of my day is liking someone like Hechicero and then hearing that Jim also respects the skills. 😊
I'm excited for this review of MJF versus Mark Texeira.
That was Ric flair territory psychology. Always his first night in a territory. He would underestimate him and then get mad a Nd win.
500K DYNAMITE 🤣
I'm sorry Jim but aren't we gonna talk about how MJF and Will Osperay were fighting over Dani Garcia
And the BiG MJF Heel turn on DG as if anybody cares and even then the focus was on DG not MJF
His heel turn is meaningless and doesn't make a sense, it just like IWC was begging him to turn heel and he turn heel to please IWC.
The devil storyline just got dropped and didn't led anywhere so it makes this heel turn more stale.
@@ChrisJericho22 it's sad
But also he had it coming
He is as stupid as he had potential
Which is a lot !!!
Anyway MITB was good
Can AEW have stable faces or heels? Apparently not...
@@pokehybridtrainer Didn't you hear Uncle Dave - 'babyfaces and heels are situational'. Tells you everything you need to know about that company
Looks great? 😂 MJF looks like a deformed orange now.
With Herman Munster 5 inch lifted boots and a bevy of roid zits.
MJF should now get a E/CMLL tattoo or maybe for his roots a MLW tattoo
He-che-che-chia is hilarous....... But not as funny as Marko Stunted Growths return match at Collision 😂
MJF used to be the outlier in AEW..
Now he’s doing the same matches & promos as everyone else ..
Firstly. He needs to stop with the spray tan. My lord he dips himself in it. His hair plugs are awful. He's just not being booked right at the moment.
The Tan gets all over his cloths lol
Don't forget the giant lifts he's been wearing lately too. Dude is going through a midlife crisis already.
And the roid zits and his 3 inch lifted boots. He’s become waking little man’s disease.
Yes
MJF has been minimized as well. His now heel turn seems like a paint by numbers attempt to try to get his heat back but he’s fucked now too like the rest of the lollipop guild, extreme gymnasts and bad bodies wrestling wannabes
30 mins in and this video has more views then and live audience of a AEW show.
Oh God Marko Stunt is back
Finally my refresh button can Rest
How original.
Hechechechechiaaaa becoming “ol’ man hech” is truly heartwarming
Jim needs to realises that MJF is paid up for this. This match was another random match, that for almost everyone, was against a nobody.
To me the match was poor, MJF was mid, and a week later, nobody remembers it.
Loved the subtle compliments on Hech from Jim. Match was great
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MJF seems to me, like a dude that needs more coaching or structure to advance himself. but in AEW u kinda have to lead your own stuff cuz theres no leadership. MJF I think is still wet behind the ears but he just hides it really well with his confidence. his selling needs to get smarter. sometimes he oversells.
I get why he stayed in AEW since he can have more control over what he does and he can curse and say things he could never say in somewhere like WWE but I feel the WWE system can teach people about restraint. putting parameters on talent can sometimes give new perspective and build people in areas where they were weak, once overshadowed by their strengths
Brian on the phone telling Jim he has to watch The Marko Stunt match is peak hilarity we will never hear
That chia pet jingle has stayed in my head for weeks now. Thanks Jim 😫😂
I can't wait to hear Jim's reaction to Hangnail Page coming back 😂
This ppv was so awful 😂
When I first watched wrestling (WWE) PPV here in Germany on free TV with some delay, the opening matches were often fought by someone like Tito Santana, reliable fan favorite, who would get the crowd rolling for the later matches.
Somewhat sad to see MJF in a similar role. Granted, as the home town boy, it meant either opener or main event for him to get enough exposure, but still.
Ive lost ALL interest in MJF
While the concept of Forbidden Door is interesting unfortunately the US wrestling fan has no idea who the Mexican and Japanese wrestlers are so AEW is facing a uphill battle.
Or cares
Waiting on what he has to say about baby Marko Stunt showing up.
MJF is done.
TRAVIS, Jim looks great as a NEW YORK METROPOLITAN ❤😂
I saw Hechicero about 12 years ago in a mat h against a 'Cavernario' who obviously had a caveman gimmick.
Tbh their luchadore collection has been as bad as their initial joshi based women's division, where they got the least impressive Japanese talent to make up their women's division.
Hechicero was pretty legitimate back then. Glad to hear he and MJF had a nice match .
Good ole Hetch is the shits
What’s a Hachi-machi?
Love how it's become MJFs gimmick that he goes on first during these Forbidden Door shows. So he can leave immediately after he wins 😂😂. He doesn't give a fuck about New Japan or CMLL.
Wow MJF,wow...
Hey, are both the Podcasts no longer available on Apple podcast for everyone? Or is it just me?
MJF will wrestle random midcard Mexicans this month, random Japanese guys next month and then random ROH or dark match wrestler after that. Great booking Tony
I actually liked this match quite a bit. The Luchador is a damn good wrestler
They must get bonuses for the middle fingers cause there are at least 3 or 4 per ppv
I’m just kind of curious as when did so many wrestling fans become nothing but negative trolls, I’m amazed at all the negative comments on here. I’ve been a wrestling fan since the 60s and MJF is one of the few things in today’s wrestling that I would flip on the TV to watch. Yes his promos are a bit repetitive but pretty much everybody’s promos Are repetitive in someway or another. At the end of the day his matches are entertaining they normally makes sense, and he’s one of the few wrestlers out there that’s worth a damn. I’m not sure if most of these trolls or WWE marks or the wrestling fan is truly turned that negative if so that’s truly sad. Back when I was younger we had all the territories I was a fan of multiple territories and enjoyed going to see different shows in different territories. But I’ve also always been an open minded guy. Thanks again Jim great as usual.
Can't wait for Jims Reaction on CM PUNK'S return at MiTB , and possible match with cena.
+Rock's lies xD
Need jim as grimace the new Mets gimmick!
I hope that tattoo was temporary
I almost feel bad for MJF but he chose this. He could’ve been on that NXT PPV yesterday, probably in a top spot.
I am going to be very interesting who actually watched Collision. I watched it, but I damn sure wasn’t going to watch both at the same time.
To be honest with you jim hechicero (eh-chee-sero) is a veteran pretty sure he set it up
Ch cha chia
Tbf he’s a veteran at lucha style; so veteran enough to recognise that MJF would be more familiar with this audience.