Jim Cornette on The 2022 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

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  • From Episode 471 of the Jim Cornette Experience
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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  • @keni95851
    @keni95851 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Who else was surprised that Jericho didnt get rookie of the year?

    • @keni95851
      @keni95851 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Dodge Morningstar that's a lot of weight

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Chris has been in wrestling even before I divorced my first ex-wife

    • @billwebber400
      @billwebber400 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would love to drink a beer or two with all of you LMAO repeatedly👍😁😅

    • @WillowGlen-hh7vp
      @WillowGlen-hh7vp ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or the Bryan Daneilsen award

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Impact is better than Aew by far ain't no way it's that lower than Aew

  • @adanmizura
    @adanmizura ปีที่แล้ว +355

    Buckle up! This is going to be good! Need the Corny Awards asap 🔥

    • @matthewirick79
      @matthewirick79 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I second this.

    • @THectOrtiz
      @THectOrtiz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Third 👍

    • @baconbone5895
      @baconbone5895 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I fourth this.

    • @davidkelling159
      @davidkelling159 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      5th, it's officially a votebang

    • @XombieLejon66
      @XombieLejon66 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What would be the categories?
      - *The "Thank you, fuck you, bye "* : wrestler you want most to be run out of the business

  • @asurlybarber3620
    @asurlybarber3620 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Corny & Uncle Dave: the most entertaining case of friends turned enemies since Obi-Wan & Anakin.

    • @EBAGTheGreat
      @EBAGTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Damnit, you beat me to it lol

    • @z2ei
      @z2ei ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Dave is the living example of the "someone is wrong on the internet" comic. You know you're too into Twitter when you search out people to argue with who aren't even mentioning you.

    • @hamankarn91
      @hamankarn91 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      We need the cult of cornette awards

    • @john_blues
      @john_blues ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Corny's got the high ground.

    • @gamerythings123
      @gamerythings123 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Jim has the high ground

  • @Darekpetrelli
    @Darekpetrelli ปีที่แล้ว +445

    The thing that Meltzer and a lot of people doesnt understand is that even when Roman isn't on screen, he's there. The fear of contradicting him, the desire to follow his orders etc etc. The bloodline matches were all about not wanting to piss him off. It wasn't even about winning or losing anymore. This is a plus, not a minus. if Moxley misses an episode does it have the same effect? Heck, even when it's there it doesn't have the same effect!

    • @KyleS3m3noff
      @KyleS3m3noff ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Someone gets it!

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I like to look it as this : Both men have the creative freedom that they needed to break out.
      The big difference is one put the work in (acting lessons, changing presentation etc) to actually stand out and show the industry how good he is. Where as the other just went back to his old wrestling style (death matches, bleeding nearly every match etc) and has sat in cruise control ever since.

    • @nohbuddy1
      @nohbuddy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dave had him as top draw

    • @getschwifty9531
      @getschwifty9531 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I know Moxley will be at home blading his forehead over a glass of wine as he promos to his wife about having to drink blood.

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ambrose being in a show or not has no consequence on the overall world of wrestling. A hobo in the streets offers more than him.

  • @ModestMcMichaels
    @ModestMcMichaels ปีที่แล้ว +262

    The reveal that Jericho made 8th on the most improved list and Brian’s demented laugh in response to reading that has got to be the best I’ve laughed in a long while

    • @Dwayne0630
      @Dwayne0630 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It’s more of a testament to how dreadfully awful Jericho was the previous year…
      A veteran shouldn’t even be mentioned in this category…

    • @heelgill
      @heelgill ปีที่แล้ว +12

      34:38

    • @Joel_Young170
      @Joel_Young170 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Did not realise that Jericho who has been wrestling for over 30 years has got so bad that he has only improved to be ranked 8th out of 10 for the year of 2022🤣🤣🤣

    • @above.average.gaming.natio3026
      @above.average.gaming.natio3026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the people who voted for this shit have been eating a lot of Meatloaf and green peas

    • @billwebber400
      @billwebber400 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In all seriousness, you have to think back and remember Chris Jericho is a wizard🤑😈😱

  • @revelstatus2346
    @revelstatus2346 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    We need the Corny Awards

    • @malikniang6760
      @malikniang6760 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AGREED!

    • @jeffreymarksworld534
      @jeffreymarksworld534 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I wonder who would've won best kidnapping this year

    • @therealmaskedheel
      @therealmaskedheel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreymarksworld534 Anyone who kidnapped the 200-500k people that are forced to watch Rampage each week.

    • @jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw
      @jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He'll yeah

    • @frod79
      @frod79 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@jeffreymarksworld534 swerve Strickland/Billy Gunn for sure 😂

  • @nabillahlabat5570
    @nabillahlabat5570 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Holy shit, him trying to justify moxley winning over reigns is next level nut hugging!

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I really dislike them both but will admit that RR has been really good as a heel in his current role.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's just normal reigns barely wretled 10 tv matches in 2022, Mox had like 50

    • @scottcoval7547
      @scottcoval7547 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Kr4ShSkeL 50 shitty wrestling matches in one year is next level

    • @robertm.3520
      @robertm.3520 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plumber Moxley and his garbage matches winning wrestler of the year is a joke. I wonder when Tony Kahn is gonna call out Dave Meltzer for his clear anti- WWE bias since hes so worried about journalistic integrity.

    • @yusufgazi7
      @yusufgazi7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sierra Hotel India Echo Lima Delta

  • @hiphopotamus69
    @hiphopotamus69 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award is objectively hilarious

    • @jwconglomerate332
      @jwconglomerate332 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If he were alive, Bruiser Brody probably would've been a shoe-in for the Bruiser Brody award.

    • @demonsuckafucka6828
      @demonsuckafucka6828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why does Danielson have an award after his name lol? Kinda goofy

    • @syko2695
      @syko2695 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@demonsuckafucka6828It was supposed to be retrospective because Bryan was forceably retired and assumed to never wrestle again

    • @ousmansano21
      @ousmansano21 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@demonsuckafucka6828it was given for the best technical wrestler and renamed after him after he retired in 2016 and he won it the most

    • @RagingCookie127
      @RagingCookie127 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@demonsuckafucka6828The award is basically for best technical/in-ring wrestler and it was put in place after Danielson announced his retirement in WWE, they thought his career was over when they made the award, then he came back and didn't win his own award for multiple years

  • @robintst
    @robintst ปีที่แล้ว +73

    "Welcome to the Observer Awards where everything's made up and the points don't matter."

    • @gamblinggod960
      @gamblinggod960 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha ha good one.

    • @rexsexson5349
      @rexsexson5349 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Now that's funny.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rexsexson5349 my favorite was when Russo said "It's a work it's not real you're a fuckin tool ass mark if you call it real wrestling" 😂

    • @todderickson2435
      @todderickson2435 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You win. 😂

  • @todd1928
    @todd1928 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The internet: Meltzer just announced his awards
    Also the internet: Oh good, when's Cornette's next podcast coming out?

    • @chrissawyer1484
      @chrissawyer1484 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's exactly what I was wondering.

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Jim laughing hysterically after Brian named Orange Cassidy on the most charismatic list really cracked me up.

  • @dngn4774
    @dngn4774 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    A big problem with how Meltzer framed his justification for Moxley is that with the way WWE is structured, even if someone in WWE was wrestler of the year by every other conceivable metric, WON would have to snub them because their company makes too much money with or without any individual.
    When has that ever been criteria before now? He's just admitting that he's never going to advocate for a WWE guy to win it regardless of how well they do.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unless they ever sign the bucks or Omega.

    • @shortymccutlery8919
      @shortymccutlery8919 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Meltzer is just a professional AEW contrarian fanboy trying to convince himself and everyone AEW isn't a bunch of jobbers.

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Dave Meltzer gets 5 ⭐️ for being a MARK for himself ….

  • @MatthewSaliba
    @MatthewSaliba ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I love Corny's "What!?!" reaction every time Brian brings up a Japanese singles wrestler or tag team.

    • @JT-fz2xy
      @JT-fz2xy ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Who??

    • @TheBorkLaser
      @TheBorkLaser ปีที่แล้ว +4

      **scoff** hein?

    • @sadboi88
      @sadboi88 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't. It reminds me of how little he respects Japanese wrestling

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's jealous.

    • @sonicplys64
      @sonicplys64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh for god's sake

  • @josephram1843
    @josephram1843 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Brian and Jim are so entertaining. They are like the modern day shoot version of Monsoon and Heenan.

  • @Saddler1944
    @Saddler1944 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    John Moxely the guy who cant sell enough tickets to fill 30% of an arena. Seems to be the greatest wrestler of all time based on the Observer readers.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He can't sell getting barbed wire in his body, table bumps, mat bumps or any of his opponents finishers either

  • @warrensloan3467
    @warrensloan3467 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    It’s bizarre when you see how seriously Dave takes his Hall of Fame and his awards, because a lot of the award winners don’t hold up to any reasonable standard aside from the herd mentality he has created, and he finally had to comment on it but is unwilling or unable to see that he’s the reason these people get it wrong.

    • @Station_AI
      @Station_AI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the opinions of people that read the newsletter, how can they "get it wrong"? It's subjective

    • @warrensloan3467
      @warrensloan3467 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Station_AI the guy who writes the newsletter said they got it wrong. And when the company that made the most money, the people running it don’t get “Best Promoter,” you can’t write it off as personal opinion.

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave's way he counts votes changes not from year to year bit from wrestler to wrestler in the same year

    • @Station_AI
      @Station_AI ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@warrensloan3467 WWEs gonna make the most money irregardless of the quality of the booking

    • @warrensloan3467
      @warrensloan3467 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Station_AI That’s their goal. A promoter who books great shows at a loss isn’t going to be a promoter for long. But the person who won this year is down in both ratings and tickets sold whereas WWE is going up, and most people consider the product better than previous years. But Tony Khan wins, because they would vote for him regardless. These voters voted WWE worst promotion over NWA and CYN, it’s absurd.

  • @megsley
    @megsley ปีที่แล้ว +63

    so when is Dave gonna create a "wrestling journalist of the year" award? 😂

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Haha. Dave has retired the award. He has too many plaques on the mantle of his beach house. In 43 years Mike Tenay had two honors while Dave swept the other 41

    • @zanon__
      @zanon__ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He'd have all the plaques buried under that bog of an office he works in.

    • @MyNameIsNotBrad
      @MyNameIsNotBrad ปีที่แล้ว

      SRS would win it.

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's the first annual montgomery burns award for
    outstanding achievements in
    the field of
    EXCELLEEEEEEENCE

    • @bigc181
      @bigc181 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awarded to....Julia!

  • @freehat6180
    @freehat6180 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Gunther is the guy to watch under any circumstances if you enjoy Pro Wrestling. The match he had with Rey mysterio was great, the best wrestling match I'd seen in years.

    • @carloscolon3331
      @carloscolon3331 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Walter is guy that think of when it comes to wrestling good physic works smoothly with other and know how to make a match look real.

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What was so great about the RAW 30th anniversary show, was seeing how happy Gunther was to be in the ring with DX & Angle. He comes off like such a badass, but even he couldn't hide his smile during that segment.

    • @metalheadjake3339
      @metalheadjake3339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GUNTHER is outstanding

    • @MrSircharles05
      @MrSircharles05 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If Cody never came back to the WWE, I could see Gunther being the one to eventually dethrone Roman Reigns.

    • @homedeezyfasheezy5662
      @homedeezyfasheezy5662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He wrestles like bully which is sorely lacking in modern wrestling. That combined with that aura of being a stone faced hoss makes him top notch .

  • @austinlaxton93
    @austinlaxton93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There’s no reason Dana White, Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard & the UFC should even be mentioned anywhere on these pro wrestling lists. It doesn’t make sense including them and is kind of a slap in the face to wrestling in my opinion.

  • @silvereloking6149
    @silvereloking6149 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Take Roman Reigns out and this is actually 9 worst wrestlers

    • @destino3945
      @destino3945 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know this is incredibly old, but Bryan Danielson is one of the 9 worst wrestlers in the world?

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@destino3945Not one of the worst but he's bad. Always does the same shit and he did a comedy dance routine mid match with Kenny in PWG once.
      The way I see it, Roman and Danielson both suck and are very boring and predictable in ring and neither can cut a good promo.

    • @SpiralPoliFemboy
      @SpiralPoliFemboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roman has always sucked. The rest of the list just sucks more.

  • @jaydenbolden7184
    @jaydenbolden7184 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Shoutout Brian for defending giulia. She’s legit and not a “schoolgirl”😂

    • @mitchie2267
      @mitchie2267 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because she’s not a midget

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Giulia, that's also an Alfa Romeo...

    • @gothard5
      @gothard5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Julia? That cheerleader girl in AEW that joined Aleister Black's group?

    • @jaydenbolden7184
      @jaydenbolden7184 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gothard5 no😂she’s a Japanese wrestler but she’s really talented and looks like a wrestler.

    • @briannettles669
      @briannettles669 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Giulia looks like a star and could be very successful in the WWE or AEW.

  • @BookerT69
    @BookerT69 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I’ve always liked Booker T I think he’s great in and out the ring

    • @tysontomko
      @tysontomko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed schucky ducky

  • @JKimma8080
    @JKimma8080 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Having been a fan for the better part of 35 years I can honestly say I had no idea who Uncle Dave was until about ten years ago and I feel like that's a great thing.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've been a fan for over 40 years, I knew about Apter when Uncle Dave was still in Grade school

    • @Dwayne0630
      @Dwayne0630 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably not… for a long time Meltzer gave pretty decent criticism and feedback… it’s always been biased towards Japanese and Indy promotions, but at least it felt like he was trying to be fair…
      Since 2016 with Omega and Okada, and his popularity blowing up on TH-cam and twitter he has kind of let it all go to his head, and now spews bullshit as if he is an omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine rather than just a well informed fan with a keyboard…

    • @bigron8896
      @bigron8896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had no idea who he was until I heard about him in these podcasts after those bootleg rocker aew boys had the Meltzer bomb or some such rubbish. Like wtf names a wrestling move after a journalist? Waiting for the Connie Chung piledriver.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dwayne0630 "As if he is some omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine", you mean like Cornette?

    • @Raven34643
      @Raven34643 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@duckmercy11 The difference is Cornette actually worked in the wrestling business for four decades as a manager, promoter, trainer, and booker. Dave has never been anything more than an "observer."

  • @tyvillianheartthrob1856
    @tyvillianheartthrob1856 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jim Cornette singing "This Is It" from "The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show" was epic.

  • @GrayFox24
    @GrayFox24 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    34:42 Brian Last’s laugh sounded exactly like Magic Johnson in the “Dream Team” documentary, when Magic was describing his pass during practice “HEEHEE”

  • @ScottsCollection
    @ScottsCollection ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I got Pro Wrestling Illustrated from late 80s to mid 90s. A lot of the awards would go to non WWF guys... And of course WCW would acknowledge their wins on air.

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got their correct... something only Cornette fans do amongst the unwashed masses of "wrasslin" fans.

    • @chico1680
      @chico1680 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember Malenko winning WOTY in 97 when it usually went to top guys like Hogan and Flair

    • @zemm9003
      @zemm9003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@chico1680 in 97????? With Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Austin all at their prime???????? Then we have to conclude that these awards were always trash.

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zemm9003 HBK was getting annoying in 97, Taker was still havinh the same kind of matches, and Austin was better on the mic than in ring. I started watching wrestling in 97, and Malenko always had great matches

    • @zemm9003
      @zemm9003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Smokey1419 97 was the foundation of DX and Michaels was at his peak. Bret Hart had one of the best in ring years despite losing in Montreal. Undertaker had awesome feuds with both. This was Austin's best year overall with the exception of 1998 and maybe (arguable) 1999. You marks can come up with any excuse under the sun to defend nonsense. Malenko was always a charisma vacuum and he was not as good a wrestler as his friends.

  • @peterlee6374
    @peterlee6374 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All these awards show is exactly the reason why wwe doesn’t listen to the hardcore fanbase
    Wwe won almost all the “worst of” awards yet was the only company to be up in ratings ticket sales revenue and profit

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stardom has tripled their ticket sales and revenue since 2018, but I agree you can't just listen to smarks when making booking decisions.

  • @jciii3334
    @jciii3334 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jesus God!?!? Jon Moxley!!??? Are you effing kidding me!!!!

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here on out, he shall be referred to as merely The Plumber.

    • @jciii3334
      @jciii3334 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Elvis Pressley There will be stories told to children about the Blood drinking, bone chewing "Plummer of Cincinnati:" who haunts the outlaw mud shows of the darkest regions of this country.

  • @Bjaerke
    @Bjaerke ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ngl the WON awards 2022 are one of the best comedy skits that ever happened.
    Booker of the year - a guy who books a show that constantly loses views.
    Wrestler of the year - a guy people made compilations about of him blading on camera and bc of his tremendous skill he get's cought every single time
    Worst promotion of the year - the promotion who has constantly the highest view numbers and makes the most money
    etc
    It's so hilarious.

    • @metalheadjake3339
      @metalheadjake3339 ปีที่แล้ว

      WON voters are not a smart bunch but they think they are.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว

      WWE wins worst promotion of the year since 20 years are you stupid or new to the business ?

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว

      McDonalds makes the most burgers and most money but any restaurant connoisseur would rate them among the worst dining establishments quality-wise.

  • @karlm641
    @karlm641 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The fact Roman Reigns isn’t the clear winner sums up what a bunch of dorks the WON audience really are…

  • @sy8jr80
    @sy8jr80 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have not watched one second of watching live on tv in years but man JC is must listen every week and this segment had me laughing the entire time even if i don't know what half of the wrestlers look like. PS i watched wresting from the late 80 's through the attitude era.

  • @JohnTravolta62435
    @JohnTravolta62435 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Jim saying "Who?What?" When Brian was saying the Japanese tag teams had me dying hahahaha

  • @charliecohall9243
    @charliecohall9243 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These AEW fans are sick

  • @aliwilliams9934
    @aliwilliams9934 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This shit sounds like the AEW Awards. I don’t want to hear any about bias anymore.

  • @packersfaninvegas
    @packersfaninvegas ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dave's bias is only because WWE never embraced him like the Nerds in AEW Dave's been lost credibility long time ago

  • @captain-brickhead8317
    @captain-brickhead8317 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Poured myself a whiskey because this one should be good! 🥃 Cheers cult of cornette!

  • @AlwaysOnDeck
    @AlwaysOnDeck ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CM Punk should have won "Best Brawler."

    • @peterlee6374
      @peterlee6374 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @JaculaDudek
      @JaculaDudek ปีที่แล้ว

      Ace Steele was more efficient

  • @meharinationsportspodcast2582
    @meharinationsportspodcast2582 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    33:13 - Brian's message to Dave Meltzer!!!😂😂😂
    "Dave!!! If you have 18 people voting for the Jericho appreciation society vs Black Pool combat club as feud of the year. You should take away their subscription!!!! Just eat the cost!!!
    They don't the deserve to get the newsletter anymore because there idiots!!!!"
    HUGE BURIAL!!!😂😂😂😂

  • @corpyhogan4433
    @corpyhogan4433 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It’s a flawed award system because they actively train their followers who to like

    • @staalhard666
      @staalhard666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kinda like WWE's main event scene

    • @ChiefDede15
      @ChiefDede15 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@staalhard666 that’s how wrestling promotions work.

    • @frankE91210
      @frankE91210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just like real politics

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol. Yes. That is Dave's intention

    • @natebaxter9551
      @natebaxter9551 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@ChiefDede15 he really thought he was thought provoking there.

  • @kylek9684
    @kylek9684 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    48:14 NOOO!! the way Jim says RENEE MOXLEY GOODE this time is different lmfao it's the best one yet! ahahaa

  • @mick16wtf
    @mick16wtf ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Truly wise word from Award Winning Jewish Co-host of the year on the Cornette show

  • @marqj2781
    @marqj2781 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jim's "What!" And Brians"at ni he heee "will Kill me everytime 🤣

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m glad that from the start they point out just what these awards happen to actually be, who votes on them, and how many people actually do vote on them before they dove in to the review. That is absolutely key in this before you start any review or analysis of what the results happen to be. You see so many people on social media or in a comments section go crazy with disbelief or screaming foul when these results end up being revealed because they don’t pause to consider just what these awards fully entail and how that explains why the results happen to be what they are every year. These awards are not decided by some respected independent voting base to ever be confused as some measure of objective opinions but rather are voted on by subscribers of the newsletter and even then only those who actually decide to vote to begin with.
    When reviewed in proper context the results shouldn’t be a shock at all. It really shouldn’t be a big leap to recognize that people who pay to consume Dave’s opinions of wrestling are also likely to share his tastes of wrestling and who is or isn’t good. So it’s always amusing to see people hurling accusations that Dave fixes the results to what he wants them to end up being and the like. The reality is the results largely align to what Dave’s taste happens to be because the people who vote on this pay for Dave’s opinions and thus probably share similar opinions to those he has so when the votes turn out that way it really isn’t some surprise to occur. People shouldn’t be fooling themselves into believeing these to be some objective measurement of anything more than the tastes of an audience who share tastes with Dave. But seeing AEW take them so seriously will always be funny to see - obviously they’re happy to do that because Dave and his audience like their product and naturally it leads to their consistent winning of such awards when the people who vote on it prefer their show. But they mean nothing as it relates to objectivity of any kind and people should always recognize that from the start.

  • @Pupsterization122
    @Pupsterization122 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    AEW / IWC marks are a joke for patting themselves on the back with these awards Lmao

    • @getschwifty9531
      @getschwifty9531 ปีที่แล้ว

      So are you for giving this so much importance.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@getschwifty9531 Ridicule isn't the same as outrage. Only wrestling fans can perceive people laughing in their face as being triggered.

  • @carloscjr23
    @carloscjr23 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I know I'm not the only one, we need a corny awards yesterday
    I don't care if it's just him shooting in modern wrestling for 2 hours, we need that, we want that!

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว

      They only shoot on modern stuff that comports to their outdated opinions. Neither of them watch MLW, NXT, NJPW, NOAH, Stardom or any other respectable product and spend time crying about how the past was better because theyre stuck in a time warp.

  • @Crashj7f67h
    @Crashj7f67h ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How are people voting WWE as the worst promotion, but they voted In WWE people on the best booker topic?

  • @cameronallen5043
    @cameronallen5043 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Moxley is total butt cheeks, but Rampage being in the top 3 weekly shows is very telling how garbage these awards are.

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Bank-addicted drug robbers"
    Diesel line from Cornette

  • @claudewashington9196
    @claudewashington9196 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not sure how we'll pull it off, but one of these days, you & Jim need to do a watch-a-along of a Stardom show.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Yea right and you saw it from where ? Oakland." - Kevin Nash

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's this little thing called "the internet."

  • @Oh-ffs
    @Oh-ffs ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This shows why Dave caters to the AEW fanbase, they're his observor subscribers

    • @WillowGlen-hh7vp
      @WillowGlen-hh7vp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But they are the AEW fanbase BECAUSE theyre his Observer readers. Hes the Sean Hannity of wrestling. Facts dont matter and its the only thing they read.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@WillowGlen-hh7vp Adam Blampeid is the IWC version of Dave Meltzer
      Watch some of his takes he's about as ridiculous as Dave Meltzer

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Most charismatic wrestler- MJF. Won by a heel! Brilliant.

    • @staalhard666
      @staalhard666 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you think charisma is an exclusive face characteristic maybe you should look up the definition.
      Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, Vince McMahon, Donald Trump, Andrew Tate... All vile human beings, yet charismatic enough to get a huge following

    • @rusuyta4429
      @rusuyta4429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So?

    • @wildwine6400
      @wildwine6400 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rusuyta4429 previous winners are baby faces like Hogan , Stone Cold and The Rock as face. A bad guy shouldn't be charismatic being cheered, that's bad heel work. Charisma means he liked by the fans. Thats the opposite of a heel

    • @J.D.1.
      @J.D.1. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      From Google
      Charisma (noun):
      Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others ...
      Yep. You nailed it. Not something good heel work should be described as.

    • @staalhard666
      @staalhard666 ปีที่แล้ว

      How bout The Rock's heel run? Did he lose his charisma back then? Dumb zoomers.

  • @Dan-ni7qv
    @Dan-ni7qv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chris Jericho above MJF, Punk and Danielson hahaha stop my sides lmaoooo. Smakrs are beyond parody at this point.

  • @Dx298
    @Dx298 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The award for best wrestling documentary goes to Cocaine Bear: The Tony Khan Story

  • @JenzKeller
    @JenzKeller ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here we go...

  • @decepticonxhunter4850
    @decepticonxhunter4850 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Paul Heyman that far down the list in the Best Interview category is just criminal, especially when he's behind someone as comically stale as MJF. That guy can hype up some opponents better than they could hype themselves up.

  • @gouthamkrishna8522
    @gouthamkrishna8522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "The ring is sacred"
    -Gunther the brawler

  • @williammitchell4417
    @williammitchell4417 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And Brian Danielson wins the Brian Danielson award... Now that confirms that this is a RIB!!!

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว +4

      award was named after him when he retired

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kr4ShSkeL wasn't it the Chris Benito Award before he had his roid rage?

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying I don't think so, it would not make much sense since he "only" won it 3 times
      Danielson won it like 10 times in a row before his retirement 😂

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kr4ShSkeL but Danielson was still sucking his momma's teet when Krispin Wah won those. And when Danielson won his first one, that other guy was long DEAD! So it must have had a different name before it was named after Danielson.

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying he won his first one in 2005 so no he was not long dead.... He was just dead
      And ofc it had another name before being named after Danielso and it still does, it's the best technical wrestler award 🤷🏻‍♂️
      But it never was named after another guy, and it's the only one to be named after someone

  • @curtisbryant6252
    @curtisbryant6252 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Giulia…she’s fine leave her alone”= damn right

  • @richardpreston7333
    @richardpreston7333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just want to point out that for all the times he's called Paul out on his b.s. and stretching the truth like so much bubblegum, Jim will always give Heyman props for being great on the microphone

  • @al5306
    @al5306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The guy who openly cuts himself on camera showing you how fake all of this is won the Lou Thesz award. Dave, and his readers, are completely lost in the sauce.

  • @Tom_TheDon
    @Tom_TheDon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wrestling observer newsletter is embarrassingly cringe and not worth airtime…..except for here 😂

  • @bruno-lp6ds
    @bruno-lp6ds ปีที่แล้ว +16

    we really need The Corny Awards

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    FTR as best tag team is surprising. They've had 2 good matches all year, which is pretty much their only matches this year 😅

    • @templeos2954
      @templeos2954 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's bullshit that it's not the Uso's who won that

    • @hdgames5689
      @hdgames5689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FTR held belts at same time in different promotions

    • @valeriye5018
      @valeriye5018 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had few matches at AEW but lots on other promotions. Both matches with Briscoes were in ROH

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 ?? No you just don't watch their work. They had 3 great matches with the briscoes, they had a very good tv match with the bucks, they had a very good ppv match with Aussie Open, they were champions of 3 different companies in 3 different contries....

    • @templeos2954
      @templeos2954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Kr4ShSkeL 3 different countries, 3 different companies and only about 30 smarks care. Meanwhile the entire tag division at WWE functions around the chase for the titles and usurping the Uso's.
      I think I know which are the tag team of the year personally.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:01:38 Those guys are the bookers for the UFC lol Corny sounding like an owl "WHHHHHOOOOOOO?"

  • @ChaseNada
    @ChaseNada ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hands down....if kenny does indeed jump to WWE, expect Dave to do a full 180 on AEW.
    He will follow his boy whereever he goes.

    • @patrickwilliams6143
      @patrickwilliams6143 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nah, he would just bury HHH for not putting Kenny over Brock, Cody and Roman in the Wrestlemania main event.

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickwilliams6143 Fair point 🤣

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every crappy newsletter would be titled, "Why Doesn't Kenny Have All The Belts, Dammit?"

    • @Kr4ShSkeL
      @Kr4ShSkeL ปีที่แล้ว

      180 on aew ? why ? he literally said Khan should not have won the booker of the year maybe stop thinking he's an AEW fanboy ?

    • @ChaseNada
      @ChaseNada ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kr4ShSkeL Recently, and just recently, yes but ask yourself why his fanbase chose Tony for booker of the year when his booking has been a puddle of piss for a long time now.
      Dave may be criticizing AEW a lot more often than he did before but that doesn't excuse the way he indoctrinated his sheep into accepting his word without any well thought out criticism.
      And for that alone, he shouldn't be let off so lightly. The braindead mentality of his subscriber base is entirely on his head.

  • @gr7993
    @gr7993 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It tells you that demo hates Cody because he’s on none of this. He came back, was giving great promos, and had good matches with Rollins.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cody was injured for most of 2022. His 2023 stuff has been great though.

    • @gr7993
      @gr7993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dngn4774 not really. He started the year in AEW, then from Wrestlemania till Hell in a Cell he’s been there. That’s like most of the Year.

    • @dngn4774
      @dngn4774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gr7993 Yeah his AEW run wasn't good towards the end. Everyone kept saying "he's such a brilliant heel/it's a work/he's not really leaving" until he did, had one feud with Rollins and was injured the rest of the year.

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guy can't win an award for wrestling when he wrestled 2 matches

    • @gr7993
      @gr7993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ronniejdio9411 You mean the guy who won an award for wrestling one match? (Cody won an espy for best WrestleMania moment)

  • @misterelom
    @misterelom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having Moxley winning an award named after Lou Thesz & Ric Flair is just so wrong. It would be like giving Vince Russo an award named after Eddie Graham.
    MJF, Heyman, & Punk should've been top 3 in the promo category (MJF & Heyman numbers 1 & 2, either order).

  • @daniel_schell_86
    @daniel_schell_86 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A&E's Legends of WWE gets a better rating than Rampage

  • @richardchisolm8430
    @richardchisolm8430 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To be clear….Meltzer had to come out and denounce some of these award winners like the Booker of the Year….even he had to admit how ridiculous the award winners were.

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's because he has trained his listeners and readers over the years to hate anything WWE does regardless of it being good or not and he can't accept it is down to what he says a lot of the time.

  • @yusufgazi7
    @yusufgazi7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cornette and Meltzer are the Obi-Wan and Darth Vader of wrestling

  • @DeaconG1959
    @DeaconG1959 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also agree we need the Jim Cornette Experience Awards.

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awards like this really makes it sink in that pro wrestling is basically dead

  • @legacy7ds
    @legacy7ds ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Giulia is actually a good wrestler and is over. She is someone I've kept up with.

    • @eiephants
      @eiephants ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought they were talking about Julia Hart.

  • @mike55k2007
    @mike55k2007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was the funniest video Jim/Brian have done in a while.

  • @xymoriintus
    @xymoriintus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The observer newsletter voters are the same people who would send in video questions to kayfaybe commentaries

  • @WhoDeanie85
    @WhoDeanie85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched AEW from the start and what killed it for me. Is the lack of rules and The Buckaroos and KEnnnnnnnnnnyyyy

  • @danielcraig4974
    @danielcraig4974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plumber of the year

  • @clifforddavidson7273
    @clifforddavidson7273 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We're not going to talk about the real controversy of these Awards? Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award? Talk about a fix! I want a Thorough investigation done

  • @phantomdriver2010
    @phantomdriver2010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gunther vs Sheamus not being match of the year is the stupidest shit. That match single handedly revived Sheamus and launched gunther

  • @klawstecno2083
    @klawstecno2083 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Pitch Black Match was really bad and even Dave said that, but if the same match happened on PWG for example,he would had made look like the best thing ever,just because it was on the indies.

  • @gweek3185
    @gweek3185 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Observer died when AEW started

  • @Jwjmcc
    @Jwjmcc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That lists show only one thing and that is the only people buying the observer now it’s the 900,000 aew fans

  • @tycobrenton4792
    @tycobrenton4792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TK had the damn nerve to cry about "biased journalists" un fuckin believable!

  • @John_1077
    @John_1077 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Must cost Jericho a fortune paying for all those observer subscriptions 🤣

    • @elvispressley2365
      @elvispressley2365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're free, as long as Dave can give him a beeej.

  • @wildwine6400
    @wildwine6400 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Fed Bad Awards

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SCJerk in the house!

  • @NoName-cz3wn
    @NoName-cz3wn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be hilarious if Tony turns on Meltzer a la Helwani, and in response petty ol Dave goes "oh yeah, well Jericho was the one that leaked the CM Punk stuff, painted your EVPs as villains and cost you your biggest money star and your biggest public blunder!"
    I can dream

  • @mr10tomidnight
    @mr10tomidnight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nutty Dave with Him Cornette behind him doing the "Hello my baby hello my honey! Hello my ragtime doll, send me a kiss by wire, baby my heart's on fire , if you refuse me honey you'd lose me then telephone and tell me I'm your one"😜

  • @GhOs7FiGhTa
    @GhOs7FiGhTa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I blanked out for a minute and then all of a sudden Jim was screaming city names and it scared tf out of me.

  • @finnegancourtney
    @finnegancourtney ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20:16 that might be Brian’s best moment LOLLLLL

  • @Brando-Lee3725
    @Brando-Lee3725 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mike Bailey could be somebody ! He already is in my eyes . He is innovative and can wrestle . Kommander is up there with El Vikingo In the Lucha highyfling style for sure ! But if any of them hit a peak and breakout on American TV in WWE or AEW , Its Speedball Mike Bailey !

  • @romofan8881
    @romofan8881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:00:17
    "So AEW didn't even get ANY votes for worst promotion of the year."
    "I don't think those are allowed"
    An all time Jim line, which is saying something.

  • @tysheinin8733
    @tysheinin8733 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thought I'd watch the clips first but nah...I gotta hear the whole review

  • @veegob5287
    @veegob5287 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    FTR, and Tony celebrated everyone else who won on AEW social media.

  • @NORWOODShadow
    @NORWOODShadow ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Basically the AEW version of the slammy awards

  • @janembabel
    @janembabel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The people that read WON are the same number of people watching AEW

  • @mjolden
    @mjolden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one else should be allowed to sing "This Magic Moment" except for Jim Cornette.

  • @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
    @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omega vs Ospereay was an interesting match (too many false finishes & not enough psychology for my taste) and I respect Omega's athleticism & work in Japan. Everything else people like about him befuddles me.

    • @bucketoafterbirth
      @bucketoafterbirth ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Completely agree. I don't get the appeal at all, but different strokes I suppose.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@bucketoafterbirth it's the "Anti Top guy" smarky wrestler fandom
      The Anti Cena smarks did it with Punk and Bryan