Wiseway Pellet Stoves Demonstration Full Version
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- Wiseway Pellet Stoves Demonstration with Inventor Gary WIsener
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By phone: 541-946-8108
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After reading a bunch of the comments I’m in shock.
Some people do nothing but say bad things. His product may not be for you BUT I’m sure others love it.
This guy spent the time to figure out a solution to HIS problem, save money and pass it on for others, he patented it and after god knows how much money and time for R&D not to mention the federal safety standards just to sell the thing.
I see comments saying I can build this for $xxx along with some other tactless comments.
I do like seeing the CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM tips and tricks for what others have done to improve or adapt to their situations.
That’s great!!
Point is give credit where credit is due.
I hope the guy made millions selling out.
Maybe he’s sitting with his family enjoying life 😉.
God Bless
Well said Jeffery Tatro! :-)
I've looked at this and can only be positive about the entire unit. Sure, you need to empty the ash pan. And needs cleaning. The only thing living in Ireland i thought would be good is if i could heat water for heating/showers, etc, then "boom" at the end of the video, he's showing the water heater version. I'll certainly be looking more into this in the near future 👍👍
I like the idea of the no electric stove. I've had pellet stoves for several years now, and electric failure is the only drawback. I wish you continued success with your company.
You can be prepared for that by making a battery backup system for about 200 bucks in a battery and inverter.
I have seen this stove in operation at our local ACE store. The sq footage is close to 5,000 feet and they heat it with two stoves, 1 in the front of the store and one at the back and the place is toasty! I like your product! Great idea and invention.
Problem with that is that heat rises and this may not be good enough to heat a whole house without distributing the heat somehow. A boiler stove is usually needed to distribute the heat around the house.
It would probably be great way to heat a large room though as a space heater. It's an interesting concept without needing the complexity of a normal pellet stove.
The water heating version takes care of that issue
I love my stove. Functional and interesting looking. I’m 73 retired nurse and live on a remote island where hydro frequently goes off. 5 stars
unless they stop making and distributing pellets
Nice invention Gary!!!!! Looks to work very well and efficient.Thanks for sharing.☺️☺️☺️👍👍👍👍
I just installed mine. OMG I love it. The engineering and function are genius.
I'm a blacksmith engineer I love your stove hello from Scotland
Superb piece of design Mr Wisener.
Simple, effective, excellent
Ingenious invention this, and one which I think might eventually revolutionize pellet stove heating forever. Yankee ingenuity at it's best.
Il n'y a rien "'d'ingénieux", simple principe du turbo
Fantastic design....stand alone, with wood pellets, no elect.....fun to look at too. I like it...thanks
nice work man! rugged, solid, simple.
I am so glad he's got something to be so proud of.
I wish tractor supply carried these still in their stores. I cant find them in any stores anymore.. very sad. These are great uf your power goes out! They have double in price which is really sad too. I have purchased other non electric stove this one is less messy to clean then all the other ones. I am disabled. I fill the back using a soup pan. But that works for me. This man is a very honest man. You can now buy them though united state stove company. ( USSC) the original stove was better built. Welding was better. God bless this man for making a great product.
This is an awesome stove for emergency use, and for workshops and cabins. Lowe's sells them now.
For what Lowes charges, I can make one much cheaper and better built. This design leaves too much heat go out the chimney making it less efficient.
Brother you're a typical 'I don't know what's happening' succes guy. Congratulations!
Owned one since 2016. So far I’ve been happy with it
How much use?
@@imhere6868 i use it all winter. I live in N.C. I’ve got a 1500 sq ft house. Still have to use small electric heaters in bathrooms. Home Depot, Tractor Supply has them. I think they’re around $1100.
@@imhere6868 I buy 2 pallets of pellets a year most of the time I have some left over
Purchased mine yesterday, ordered it from home hardware in N.W.Ont. , I can’t wait to fire it up today after work, I’m sk anxious and excited ! I’m getting older, so I’m opting out on cutting 8/10 cords of seasoned dry wood…
I’ve owned mine since 2016. My problem has been finding good pellets. I use my leaf blower to blow the ashes out where my vacuum won’t reach 😁
WE bought one, I am excited to see how this goes!! Right now, its chilly and I need warmth!! hahah it is 09/22/2022 - wish you all the best.
I’ve owned one since 2016. Finding good pellets that burn good has been the biggest problem. Leaf blower works good to clean the ashes out where the vacuum cleaner won’t reach 😁
The biggest problem is you have to constantly baby sit the burn chamber to make sure that the coals don’t build up around the basket, when that happens the basket rods get too hot and burn out. After replacing two in one season I stopped using it. Good design for occasional use but you can’t leave it overnight without starting to decay the burn basket.
Stainless steel burner might reduce burnout.
good invention. the electric requirement of other pellet stoves has been holding pellets back.
Battery backup solutions are easy to find and or create yourself
Flue draft is vital to proper function on this unit. I notice going from 3 inch to 4 inch helps drafting in this demonstration. Will use 4 inch all the way in my install. When outside, go up at least another 6 feet. Should burn good then. I love that it runs on God's laws of basic physics.
I thought the same. wonder if it has any minimum recommendation for vertical flue rise? Also wonder what happens when the pellets run out and the post chamber vent are open...wonder if itll burn back into the pellet box?
I have a question hopefully you can answer it what is the pellet slide plate for and where does it go?
I put it in the feed tube area where you can open the little compartment I hope that is right
The internals reminds me of the paramids. Very nice design!
2021 and it's available at Tractor Supply Co for $1699.99 Not sure if it's the pellet stove we're gonna go with but it seems like a great stove.
Excellent work
Greetings from Slovenia
Very nice stove. Thanks Scott. Great channel!☆ 👏
The big problem with these pellet stoves is there are probably 1000 different makes and models, none of which will be around in 10 years to supply parts. This design may solve that issue as parts aren't really needed. Anything requiring repair in 10 years can be manufactured in any garage with a welder.
Crucial observation, however the electronic boards are reaching zero cost for the other versions with moving parts so I doubt there'll be a big issue. Combustion is an inherently low complexity arrangement - set something on fire>control its availability>leave the rest to physics
I have only seen one brand of this stove it is the one and only epa approved non electric pellet stove and it has been around for a while now .and not a lot to go wrong or to need repaired it is basic simple old-school this vid is currently 9 years old and the wise way stove is still selling strong .I lose power for over a month in winter so I have always used wood but I'd like to use pellets
@@011CJ bought mine right after US STOVES started making them. had mine since 2016. A leaf blower works well to clean it out 😁
My parents have had an Englander since 97. They still use it today 25years later. Parts are very easy to find. Many parts are interchangeable. Unless you buy a stove from a brand new unestablished manufacturer, i do not see this as an issue. 25 years is a pretty decent life span for a pellet stove. Especially when you run it non stop. I imagine their stove has paid for itself dozens of times when compared to the cost of propane. They have had to replace the door gasket 4 times and the room blower twice. Thats about $600 in maintenance. My wife and i have had the same stove since 2009. Havent had to replace anything on it (knock on wood).
Parts, what is unique about any of this design, it looks like 4" square stock from any metal yard. It will be timeless.
There is a LOT of heat wasted out of the flue (chimney).
For a place in central California, it might not be bad. However, if you live in Minnesota, you'd need one for every room.
A modern gas furnace has flue temperatures in the 90's. The key to efficiency is a low flue temperature (the ratio of usable heat to the wasted heat).
Excellent point.
how could one prevent the wasted heat going up the flue?
Nice invention, my dad invented the brass flame woodstove ( Merlin Oregon )
In the 80's, and there are still some around
Brilliant ! well done, wish they were in the UK.
Looks nice, I'm running 1000 1500 deg. constant with a room air blower all winter long with conventional oak split wood.12 hours is not a problem. I don't know if I should go pellet stove? I like the concept, but all them moving parts to fix on pellet stoves has always prevailed in keeping my good old wood burner on them cold winter nights. But one of these days I'm going to give your pellet stove a try.
based on some the online reviews, it seems the next generation could use some clean out hatches on the upper tube parts. other than that, people seem very happy with these stoves
I have heated with pellet stoves for years. I love the fuel but hate the stoves with the electrical problem and maintenance, but this is amazing All the simplicity of a woodstove with the convenience of a pellet stove. 0 drawbacks, nothing to fail.
The only thing i dont like is the size of the hopper. i think an 80lb Hopper would be nicer
Looks like he made his MILLIONS, US STOVE done bought this fella out. Good going . Back to Lab for me, time to think....$
+Jim Cash. - LOL, me too!
I really like the idea of using it for hydronic, but if it were even hotter, it could be used for a steam-powered turbine to generate DC power for battery storage
I dig your stove invention man.
For hydronic heating, I'd like to know the BTU output. A measure of the BTU capacity is measuring the output water temperature vs the input temperature (i.e., the temp rise) at a given flow rate. I'd want the output Temp to be maintained at a constant > 160 degrees F. at 5 gal/min.
Keep in mind that I've only used it for a couple weeks, that being said, so far so good th-cam.com/users/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM . Using it at 8 ft. by 8ft. deer blind that is insulated. I have to keep the door cracked for it to get enough air to burn, but that is very likely the wood I've used. Much better quality than I expected for the price. Now if I can just take it easy in the beginning it won't be 90 degrees in my blind. All in all it seems like a keeper.
It would be great to have more glass to see more flame, but love this!
More cleanout openings would be nice and maybe use round tubes to get more of a vortex effect and an enclosure around so no one gets burnt with one of those convection fans to blow heat out. I do like the idea of no moving electrical parts. But very pricy in Ontario Canada, selling for $1800. Would like to buy blueprints so I can make it my self with a few changes.
Very nice, liked thanks for sharing 🍀💐🌈
Great stove, well built, excellant workmanship. But I've never been able to get 36 hrs. on low w small basket, 12 max. as a welder/fabricator myself my main issue is the hopper will not hold a 40 lb. bag. Needs to be larger w an angled skirt around top.
I bought one a year ago and it has a hopper that is two times bigger
what is the thickness of the tubes and are they 4 inch or 3 inch? Thanks
He sold the company to US stoves. Tractor supply sells it. Old one since 2016. 74
will this stove run effectively with a horizontal section of flue (thru the wall in a thimble)?
yes but results vary.
i have one good so far 2nd day.
I am definitely looking at this unit for a reliable source of heat.
I bought mine from ingrams. I love mine. I'm super happy with mine! I payed 1400 for mine,I just wish it had wheels on the base. But mo biggie.
Pellet bag burn claims are like MPG claims from manufacturers. It's almost always BS.
Pellet use amounts are actually more than double
Great design and engineering.
i see this pellet stove is efficient,impressive ,so green,my opinion is if you add a electrical igniter it will be perfect for home use,a child can start this without risk
Very impressive, real nice. Nicely done video as well; thank you
Wow love the story!! Wish you long success
He sold out to US stoves a few years ago.
Hey Gary l love your stove.Was wondering if you ever considered making a smaller version for a bedroom?
what kind of temperature is the stack above the stove.
can you exit the flu out the side wall where the stove may be located
what is the btu's on low for the use in the house.
Very neat, compact design. But with your temp gauge location, that means you've got very high temps going out the flue pipe. By contrast I have had the top of my Rocket Stove as high as 930*F with flue temps no higher than 220*F. Less heat out the flue = more heat in the room. I'll keep my non-UL certified Rocket.
Less carbon going out the chimney too.
I'm about 1.5 years from building one for myself
Doesnt low flu temp cause creasote formation?
Tommy Apples - Rocket stoves run so hot, that almost all smoke and creosote is burned away. That's why they are so efficient.
8 yrs later and I want one
Home Depot, Tractor Suppy and Lowes sell them. US STOVES makes them. Had mine since 2016. I spend about $3.00 or less a day to heat around 1500 square feet. I still run electric heaters in the bathrooms though.
Your explanation leaves people still without complete understanding. What do mean, burns a hole? How, burns a hole in what? What do you mean can't climb back up? More details are needed to give potential buyers incentive to how it works. Looks great, great job on your design.
That's a GREAT design ! I would hate
to have to feed it though ( the only
access to pellets I am aware of are
by a 40 lb. bag @ $19.99 per bag ) !
If I go thru a bag a day ... I think You
can see where I'm going with this .
Could You run the exhaust out the
wall of a cabin (16×16 , two story ) ?
Don't want to go up two stories & thru roof .
@john howard - Don't know about the pellets you're looking at, but I can get top quality grill pellets from HD or Lowes for $17.99 for 40lbs which you don't want to use. Stove pellets can be had for about $5 for 40lbs in quantity.
If i had this i would hook up some form of hot water heat exchanger and blower for extra air movement.
Im interested in the fact you can run a hose through it to clean. Very simple. However, i know from experience that heat and water cause rust. We go through a steel firepit every few years due to burning and then getting rained on. Does this style of cleaning shorten the lifespan if performed over a long flexible brush with an ash vac? I know thats not as easy, but its still fairly quick and simple. Would i benefit from more years of use by brushing rather then flushing with water? Another question. Using a blow torch for 8 minutes a light can get pretty expensive in itself. Has there been any advancements in the 10 years you have made this video for a cheaper way to start up?
i've been using one for 3 years, the welds are garbage ,use premium pellets, basket will last 3 winters max, i've built my own baskets.
Stove is brilliant, but it can be DIY idea for someone who has no money to buy it but have some knowledge in processing metal...
I agree. It's way over priced for what you get and it actually has mixed reviews after doing some extensive research. The burner can clog over time and can burn back up into the hopper (dangerous) I have made one much like that (basic welded 4" square tubing which is simple enough) but I decided to use a different design for my burner, so it wouldn't clog up with ash. I copied the burner design from a RIley camp stove (google it) which works very well. My version of this stove can run up to 800 degrees if I want it to, but I don't run it that hot.
I hope it all goes well for you. Nice stove
So a mechanism to open and close the gate in the hopper bin would control how much it burns per hour.
Ur super smart man.
What a great guy
beautiful design ,will the w2ater heater work for moonshine
Can the stove be started without using a propane torch? Can it be started with newspaper, or possible wax infused starter materials?
I purchased one of these direct from the manufacturer and had it shipped. Biggest waste of money in my opinion. Poor quality welds that leaked smoke. I ended rewelding the unit myself to keep it from smoking me out of my home. Ended up taking it out and replacing with another type of pellet stove. Don't waste your money.
Definitely one of the best designed and well working units, glad the inventor sold out to make some I hope decent dough BUT the current price is ridiculously expensive. I also have to disagree with Jeff Tatro's idiotic comment, bashing that guy (Jim Thomas) who said he can build it around $100. What's "bad" with stating his opinion which also happens to be way more realistic than what US Stove is now charging for this unit. Well I worked out the numbers and after a better calculation, and factoring the work hours (including R&D) to build a prototype, a better net cost assessment would be in the $350 range, so even with a 100% markup this unit should be selling at around $750. Actually my only criticism to the inventor is he should have not sold too soon or at least negotiate a clause to have a say and a percentage on MSRP. Now, such a good idea has been hijacked by the money 💵 hungry corporate Ame
This thing looks like a royal PIA but I applaud your ingenuity!
Missing a plug and cord for you?
Actually my brother in law and I were just watching this video again. We are sick of watching our power bill go up 50 bucks a month due to running the pellet stove. How much is this thing?
We just purchased ours yesterday for $1899. Can't wait to get it installed.
Jason Glaneuski: Impossible. I doubt that you could use $3.00 worth of electricity in a month running a pellet stove on max settings for 24/7. You're way off on your estimate.
what is the thickness of the tubes and are they 4 inch or 3 inch? Thanks
. I love that junky landscape that's the best that's a true tinker.
So, basically a rocket stove fuelled with an automatic feed of wood pellets. I want one for my basement in case of power outages. With the power out, my oil burner won't work, so I can use the same chimney pipe.
I’d like to see it be able to heat water for radiant heat and the ability to burn wood chips as well
How many times can you light the stove on each propane canister? I light my wood stove at home with a propane torch. That takes maybe 20 seconds of burn time each time. I go through two standard cylinders a year. Love the stove but how much propane would I have on hand? What if I run out of propane? Can it be lit without one at all?
I may build one myself, only I'm going to enclose the tubes and blow all the heat out the top of the enclosure to heat my home. I don't know the BTUs, but if it gets 500-600 degrees, a small blower fan should work.
By reading some of the 1 star reviews on Home Depot.
The whole stove is made of thin walled metal. Also the fire box and shoot breaks down in less than 2 years.
Any high temperature areas like fire box needs to be made of thick stain steel and not with thin steel tin.
Back to the drawing board and design something that is bit more honest and not a scam.
Had mine since 2016 with no problems, still looks new. Use it all winter. US STOVE’S quality must have really went down hill since I bought mine 🤷♂️
Awesome design!!
I'm buying a house soon and was thinking about putting a pellet stove in my basement hooked up to duct work, they should design a capture box for this stove I would buy it right away.
Awesome design!
You should definitely add an igniter that can be used if you have power but retain the propane lighting option if the power is out or for cabins without power. I'd buy one immediately if so but I don't want to have to mess with propane when I have mains power. Also why do you not have a website any longer ? Your link goes to a placeholder.
The gel alcohol lighter fluid helps ,you might be able to get away with that and matches or a lighter, but I will tell you flat out from personal experience, the propane torch is the best way , period.
It's cool, but what happens when you don't have a propane torch
It's interesting, but at $5.00 per bag lasting 24 hrs that's $150.00 per month and it wouldn't heat an entire house.
robert frey this thing is a pice of shit get your self a Quadra fire
@@ian_MMA POS, no fan either...lol
@@ian_MMA Harman is the only way to go
It appears that this guy sold this design to a company that sells them to Northern Tool now. It is called "United States Stove Company Pellet Stove"
HD, Tractor Supply,Lowes sells them
Getting mine monday! Yay😊
Have you had any problems with the fire ever climbing up into the pellet shoot?
There's no air up there if the hopper is kept full. It will move toward least resistance, the zig zag chimney.
I've been looking at these things. I watched a few videos on how to clean them and is why I watched this video. Just run water down through to give it a good cleaning and that's it? Hmmm. Rust issues?
Check out my stove, it will not back draft like this one and you can cook on it. Just letting you know there are now options. Kudos to Wiseway for getting here first! www.thriveoffgrid.net/product-page/enduro-stove
@@Thrive-Off-Grid There is a problem with your link.
I use a leaf blower to clean it out. Had mine since 2016
I can see that this would be a great emergency stove. As for survival not so much where are you going to get the pellets after the STHf?
TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness , well the Zombie black market of course
Hey Gary- hire a model with giant mammals & give her a 4 hour class on your jargon, have her do the videos & you'll be good to go.
Very good
Continued; And the stove will burn out with 4-5 lbs. of pellets that do not feed well. The angle inside is not high enough to allow all the pellet to feed properly. It's necessary to scrape the crust from the burn basket every few days.
How large of area will it heat. I would use it in my home shop, 1800 sq ft insulted ?
would love to see more about venting options,thanks.
Are you thinking of venting it through a thermal Mass like a bench on a rocket stove?
Douglas Cunningham this would be a good option to help heat your house & not just rely on radiant heat!
What is the stack temperature? Does a longer in room chimney run add or subtract from radiant heat? Does the chimney radiate heat. What type chimney is used?
The heat exchanger looks primitive, inefficient. Add a Stirling or Piezoelectric fan motor to increase air flow. A bigger hopper that will burn up to 48 hrs a fill would be nice.
Please make a mini version!
Will this work with corn too?
Where does I put my sausages, bacon and eggs to cook?
How big of an area will one of these heat?
This is genius :-)
Cute. Care to change sharp angles to curves ?
Curves take more time and cost more money for a start-up company. I imagine now, being made by a larger manufacturer with wide distribution, technical improvements are less expensive to implement.
I see now the water system, i did not look at the whole video. My question is how cheap can i buy wood pellets? How many 30 hour burns vs. cost for four months?