Intro to Baroque Ornamentation! | Team Recorder
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- An introduction to a huge and sometimes overwhelming topic - BAROQUE ORNAMENTATION! What is it? Why is it used? Where and how do you do it? How do you play all those symbols? Where can you find more music and info? I give you aaaaaaall the answers ;)
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/// INSTRUMENTS
In this video I play on a 415 alto by Thomas van Ginneken.
/// BOOKS I TALK ABOUT
- 'Baroque Ornamentation Tutor' by Janos Bali
- 'The Grammar of Ornament' by Erik Haas
- 'Interpretation of French Music' by Betty Bang Mather
- 'On Playing the Flute' by J. J. Quanzt
- 'Principes de la flute' by Hotteterre
- 'L'art de Preluder' by Hotteterre
- 'Methodical Sonatas' by Telemann
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This is valuable. Trying to find a recorder teacher in one's geographical area, is like trying to find strawberries in a Siberian winter.
True! Consider donating to her Patreon account, imagine what you’d spend on lessons if these videos didn’t exist!
Hi William. Let me know if you're interested in taking recorder lessons. Greetings.
She has recorder online lessons available every now and then! I’m probably too late but I just wanted to say
Hello from the actual Siberia. :D
You are the best music teacher I ever had.
Why doesn't she have more views this is the most interesting channel
I love the description of how a trill works 5:26 “…and that’s baroque music!”
That’s pretty much baroque everything in a nutshell.
I wanted to say that as well, it was brilliant! 😁👏
as a self-learner, i just found your channel sososososooooooooo helpful 😍
Yes. Me too.😊
And also me!
I don't even play the recorder or have a background in music. I just enjoy hearing you talk, its like an asmr.
The glottal stop is one of my favourite ornamentations in language.
This was absolute gold, thank you so much for putting this excellent video together!
Hey Sarah, thank you so much for this video. I have been a recorder player for almost my whole life, but have been off the hook for several years since I graduated from university. Never stopped playing, but with on/off phases. Now that I really want to go back to practice I needed a reminder on all those cabalistic symbols dear to our recorder player's hearts. Thank you Sarah (and thank you @twosetviolin for bringing me to your channel)!
Yay! I'm so excited for this video; I'd been wishing for a video on baroque ornamentation and now it's here! Hooray, thank you, Sarah! :)
Sarah this is an awesome introduction to Baroque ornamentation - I loved it! I feel I'm getting such a well grounded musical education from your wonderful videos. Thanks so much for sharing your musical knowledge in this highly accessible way. Your videos are a real highlight of my week!
Just got a Baroque collection and I'm so excited to try these out! I'll start simple and then target practice all those plus-sign grace symbols! Thanks for all you do!
Thank you! THIS is a GOOD video on baroque ornaments. Just what I was looking for!
So helpful, Sarah, thank you!!! You've boiled down a gigantic topic to something concise. I especially appreciate the rep and text suggestions at the end and will be placing an order today!
Great great video! Need to watch it many times!
So much fun!!
Greetings from Huasco, Chile! I just bought a Baroque Recorder, extremely high quality, because I was watching your videos about 2 months ago, I felt motivated to...(I felt in love with you also -- but I am a mature happy married man, sorry ... and I felt in love with your great teaching techniques) I don´t know how to play it but I know how to whistle! and I´ll try to follow your videos since I have two weeks of a spring-break....that I have to share with Calculus! Great videos, great initiative you have. Regards!
It reminds me a bit of celtic and folk music with its rolls and things.
Tirukinoko You will be pleased to know there is another video on folk ornaments already.
What a splendid video! I learned more about Baroque ornamentation in 16:21 minutes than I have in the past 50 years! Thank you for the demonstrations WITH the printed examples beside you on the screen. And thank you for the terrific references which I shall order immediately. Marvelous video!
Excellent and useful vid, as always. I found a great piece to learn about adding ornaments was the first Larghetto from Handel op 1 no 7. Loads of scope, many alternatives, relaxed pace and a huge number of recordings to listen to and pinch ideas.
Thanks for this great video! I play the oboe and your videos about techniques and articulation are really helpful 😊
Thank you so much. I love Baroque music and I'm interested in seeing what's on your playlist.
I’ve never even heard of this specifically before. It makes a lot of sense. It applies to all instruments.
Huh, a lot of this info that I learned on viola and violin applies really well to recorder. And yes, dear God Corelli loved a ton of notes.
Thank you Sarah, this video is very helpful..! ps : I'm French, and your french accent is actually good ^^
I love it !
U r a great inspiration.
Great video. I learned a lot! I've played some baroque (all styles) in school and I really like it. We've just done thrills though as I'm still a beginner.In my fourth year now :)
Thanks for the video! I'll be seeing you next week in Mechelen. Joined your class on friday morning. Hopefully my recorder skils (ahem) are not too rusty after the hollidays :)
Cheers
Thank you so much!! 😊
Thankyou!! ✨❤️
Thank you so much!
Very informative and inspiring.
Good reference video. Learning some Hotteterre.
1:20 That’s what I like most about “ornamentation” especially as a soloist. As a soloist, I can use as little or as much ornamentation throughout a piece of music, at my discretion, without discombobulating anyone else who would otherwise be in an ensemble. 😉 ♫
Thank you so much What Frank Lott said plus you are also the prettiest.
Concerning the Telemann Methodical Sonatas - such fun! And a great learning tool. However, I have noticed that on several modern recordings of these on CD (Barthold Kuijken; Koji Ezaki), the recorder player plays ALL the ornaments notated by Telemann in the slow movements.
But I was taught that you were supposed to pick and choose the ornaments that you preferred (and you might even modify them - kind of the point of the whole thing, after all), and that Telemann was not in any way suggesting that you play ALL of them in any given playing of the piece. On earlier recordings by Frans Bruggan, he does exactly that and it certainly makes sense to me.
Of course, it is a great learning tool having these performers play ALL the ornaments - that way you can hear how they all sound from a professional player, especially since the timing on some of Telemann's ornaments can be pretty tricky to decipher from the sheet music. But I do think it is kind of odd. I cannot imagine that they are just trying to make instructional recordings.
"English baroque, which was... a little bit weird?" xD This is now one of my favourite videos!
I love English baroque on the keys, but have barely listened to any on recorder, must fix that :)
I love it "you also had English baroque which was...a little bit weird"
extra notes, extra kindness!!
Bravo thank you
5:30 That´s it! The GREAT trill feeling! Love it! (I´m a musician and Baroque fan.) Some authors of the baroque period
describe the trill as a repeated appoggiatura . (They didn´t give instructions about facial expression - too bad....) :-)
thanks, very useful,
really good
There is a lot of book which can not be bought in Taiwan😢😢😢
I am rejoyce by your Baroque techniques teaching. It was really great.
Hello Sarah, I imagine this video was quite a heavyweight to research and film, but it was a good one nonetheless and interesting.
I don't know whether other subscribers will agree with me, but I'd love you to tackle the most important ornaments individually and explain them in depth also showing the music lines as you've done here.
Good idea! I did a trills vid already... any preferences for the next?
:) Acciaccatura(s)!!!
p.s. I had somehow missed the one on the trills but fixed it soon after seeing this one ;)
Good job Sarah!! Past week I was sight reading a piece from Boismortier and... I was like "What the hell is this symbol? And this one?!" so... this video is my salvation… ;) I love the explanation of tension feeling of disonance in 5:27 By the way… Can I suggest a future video on half-hole technique?? Hand and finger position?? Wrist movement? Transitions from (and to) notes like F#, G#, C# (speaking of alto recorder)?? I am having a tough time with this issue and I would like to hear from you about it...
Am not sure if you’ve covered this: could you maybe talk about playing inégales…when to do it, how best to do it?
I play saxophone and this was still really helpful
Betty Bang Mather has another ornamentation book - "Free Ornamentation In Woodwind Music 1700-1775 Anthology with Introduction" by Betty Bang Mather and David Lasocki. It is a good compilation of ornaments from Italian, English, German, and French composers, showing without and then with ornamentation examples.
This is yet another invaluable resource for recorder players- and anyone interested in playing Baroque music! Is there anything more you can tell us about English Baroque? I'm most versed in German which I think gives me some footing in French and Italian, but English Baroque music is kind of outside my comfort zone. Any good composers? Besides Handel, since he focused so much on Italian styles.
I would like to share some informations about Hotteterre's book called "Principles of the flute, recorder and oboe" (1707). It was translated into English by Paul Marshall Douglas, including one introduction and footnotes and released by Dover Publications in 1968 and reprinted in 1983 . Concerning to the important chapters about French baroque ornamentation for recorder perfomance (chapters III and IV - recorder treatise, pages 59-67), Hotteterre explains only the more important embellishments wich are trills (tremblements), vibrati (flattements) and mordents (battements). Hotteterre explains these are the most important ornaments and recorder student has to master firstly, as these ornaments appears in every piece of music of this period. There are more information about this subject inside the flute treatise (it is worth to read it) and the referring chapters are chapter IV (pages 20-25), chapter VI (pages 30-32) and chapter IX (pages 45-47). In chapter XIII (pages 36-44) on flute treatise, Hotteterre gives more information about extra ornaments: appoggiaturas, springers ("accents") and terminated trill. He includes very useful examples with sheet music and show valuable tips about articulation also (useful for all baroque wind players).
This is brilliant Lucad, thanks for sharing!
Great video as always, Sarah. Can anyone comment on whether the examples in Janos Bali's book chosen for soprano or alto recorders? Specifically, what range of notes do they compass?
Noted your very interesting Eye ornamentation.appogiatura de eyeliner.
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So many ornaments music is basically a mantelpiece.
Trill in Barock stard at upper note and in Classic lower note
Hi great artist.
Can you tell me what kind of microphone do you use in videos?
And for the midi bases, what do you use?
Thank you very much
Alessio
Italy
you're very good and beautiful
Hola Sara una pregunta: en los preludios para flauta dulce sola de Hotteterre, utilizás la inegalité según corresponda en corcheas o semicorcheas? Tenés algún video referido a la inegalité o irregularidad en las notas? Gracias!
I've read something about how german is for simple notes but with baroque you can do more but is a lil but trickier to learn the fingeringg
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It was SO helpful. It would be super interesting for me as I am a double bass player if you could invite to your chanel maybe a friend that plays baroque cello, violone or viola da gamba and can talk a bit of the basso continuo section. :)
I love your videos!
Great vid as always Sarah! What Recorder is just down from the tenor?
Bass in F, also called basset. Then great bass (in UK), in C, then contrabass in F. Watch Sarah's TH-cam when she unpacked her contrabass, after it had had a service.
Can you please play a fast piece with all these stuff. Also french Ouverture style etc?
When should ornaments be used while playing in a large ensemble of recorders?
do you think that the book ornamentation tutor will be helpful also for traverso right ? there is no a book with a complication of all the syles or ornaments ... i have been compiling all the ornamentations from my manuscripts !!and its lot of information ! bravo for your video ! lots of information very well digested ! i am also a flute baroque player but traverso! ( i studied in geneva conservatory ) bravo for your work , and thank for this video give me ideas, I am trying to start educating people for baroque ornaments too but in spanish !
Yes for sure! It’s all about the musical language, so you can apply it to any instrument 😀
@@Team_Recorder thanks a lot !
Well, you started this. Now deliver! English barock. Do it ;)
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Any idea how I find your playlist on vialma? Greetings from Germany
I was just wondering: is the 'I'm a recorder player' beep a recorded recorder beep?
Hi!
Did baroque musicians like the sound of wide trills in their own right, independent of the technical necessity of them? I notice that I often hear wide trills even where alternate fingerings that allow both pitches to be in tune exist, like for E to F on alto.
Yes! And again, the ‘width’ of the trill varied per region snd style. In Fremch music for example, they’d favour a wider trill.
Has anybody played on a triebert recorder? I’m thinking about getting one due to the decent price range.
Are the pieces of the books for alto recorder ??
Where your best instruments?
Why ornament away from the score...It also allows the performer to adapt the piece to the moment/audience... that day?.... Well, that's my guess😀
I've noticed you mostly play Renaissance and Baroque pieces in your tutorials, but most of your performance videos feature contemporary music
Haha true! I specialized in contemporary music during my master studies so made a lot of performance videos then. But my viewers love learning about early music, so I am happy to oblige ;)
Please make sure that camera dose not cut recorder
Passaggi x graces
You say Ba-rock, I say Ba-roke. I was puzzled by the difference, but now I know that North Americans say it differently. It's a dialect thing, and I'm sure we each find the other strange.
Haha, my husband is American and we have these kind of moments every day 😂😂
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Is alto recorder the standard range?
For Baroque music, yes. For solo parts.
Hi Sarah:
I am an e-learning developer by day and a recorder player in my off hours. I would like to use parts of this video for a free, web based elearning course introducing users to Baroque Ornamentations that I want to develop for my local American Recorder Society chapter. The value that my course would add would be more historical background about ornamentations and student ability to test their understanding by means of interactive exercises and tests. I would also use this course in a certification program I am participating in for advanced elearning development. You would be given all the appropriate citations in the elearning program and there is no commercial element.
Do I have your permission?
Hi, that's great to hear that you are producing an learning course! And that you find the information in my videos useful and would like to include it. You are welcome to embed my videos into the course, as long as it is done by linking to the original videos on youtube themselves. (You can also use a timestamp link if you want to the video to begin playing at a certain minute/second). However, I don't give permissions for my videos to be downloaded and used outside of TH-cam. Hope you understand, and good luck!
Sarah Jeffery / Team Recorder
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, Sara! What is a time time link and how does one create one?
Vialma referral link down?
I’ll check it out, thanks for the heads up!
If Ornamentation could be a person it would be Sarah.
Great tutorial , just a little too fast for beginners .
Very attractive woman
It's bah-roke
Brent Breault Only in the US , I think. It's ba-rock in British English, French, German, and as Sarah is English, her pronunciation is perfectly correct.
+Jane Mallinson Google disagrees
+Brent Breault the real world disagrees. Some words have more than one acceptable pronunciation.
It's bah-roke. It's not Barack Obama