Playing THE VERY FIRST Helder recorders ever made! | Team Recorder
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- Ready for a moment of recorder history? I play on THE ORIGINAL Helder recorders, developed in collaboration between Maarten Helder and Walter van Hauwe in the 1990s! This is like being able to play on the original saxophone, or the original electric guitar 😮😮😋
How are they different to 'normal' recorders, how have the Helders changed since, and most importantly - what do they sound like? ;)
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00:50 About the recorders
02:45 Unboxing
03:55 The first tenor!
05:50 Piano key and this weird screw
07:15 The second tenor
09:50 The alto
11:30 Moving the block with your lip
12:23 Different platelets
14:09 Thoughts and musings ;)
Pieces I play snippets of: Bach Cello suite nr. 1 (minuet), Daphne by van Eyck (second variation I think), Medieval estampie nr.... 8?
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The Helder instruments now: ruby helder tenor
Walter van Hauwe: waltervanhauwe.org
Susanne Frölich and her research: susannefroehlichrecorder.word...
Team Recorder interview with Susanne: • FINALLY: The Helder Ev...
Team Recorder interview with Walter: • Recorder legend Walter...
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the two original Helder tenors and the original Helder alto!
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You are making history too, there's no other channel with this level of access, in terms both of people you have interviewed, and of course THIS! Not many musicians are showing this level of historically important instruments first hand! Not even that bass guy XD Hugs from Chile!
The Helder with replacable windway roofs highlights an important point that many probably don't realise: when it comes to different woods or materials sounding different, it's not so much the body of the instrument but mainly the windway that creates the variation in sound. I once discovered this myself when I swapped out the totems on two of my Native American flutes and the sound changed completely. The texture, roughness or smoothness, of the different materials, creates microturbulences in the air flow before it hits the labium, affecting the complexity of overtones in the fundamental sound.
I think the body of the instrument contributes to the overall 'voice' of the instrument. The harmonic overblown tones sound like what you might produce on the 'fipple' flutes that Winne Clement makes (he is on TH-cam). I think that creating some kind of microturbulence in the body might be good for the playing sound quality.. ?
tippwestern the body will affect the sound, but not as much as the windway. it is mostly the shape of the body rather than its material properties that decides how the sound produced in the head is affected, which is exactly what replacing the windway roof on the Helder demonstrates.
It is the body that allows the pure blown overtones, for instance, and that decides the tuning of the instrument, but again it's shape, not the material..
I'm not a recorder player and I still enjoy watching your videos
good to know i'm not alone!!!! ahahahah she's lovely!
Thank you Sarah, that was so interesting. Unsure whether all the possibilities and permutations would be a delight or drive me to distraction; as for all those keys, speaking as a one-time oboist I can say that one of the attractions of the standard issue recorder is that it ain't got any. :-) By the way, yes please to a Recorder History: The Lost Years video. I've seen pictures of various weird and wonderful transitional instruments but don't know anything about them.
Fascinating. All that stuff about the delicate balance in trying to play the baroque recorders. Now I understand why I suck. It’s not JUST me-although it is me.
This is so cool! A piece of recorder history that we get to see. Thank you Sarah!
His name is Orhan Gencebay
These are probably the most stunning recorders I have ever seen.
I'm gonna be super honest: That's my dream instrument! Oh God, how I wish I could have the money to buy it, so I can play all the things I'm used to struggle with by playing it on a flute, but if I try to play on the recorder no one can hear me. .. Mollenhauer should definitely think about making a more afordable version (in grenaditte maybe? the plastic that resembles grenadilla wood? I don't know, just a suggestion) cause that instrument should've be more and more popular!
I'm not a recorder player and prior to your video's always thought the recorder was only for introducing young students to music, but you have completely changed my view. I love watching and learning from your videos so please keep up the amazing work!
The sound of these tenors might just be my favourite recorder sound ever! I am genuinelly blown away
Hi Sarah, just wanted to say thank you for your great content!!
I restarted playing my recorder again about 2 or 3 weeks ago (after 7 years), especially playing Christmas songs. And then I started watching your videos and realizing what a great instrument I have.
I played the recorder for 12 years (while I was in school), especially soprano, later alto. Sometimes I was motivated, sometimes not =D
I played with some class mates who stayed like me until the end of school (when we were 18 y. old), but I was the only one of us who didn`t start playing another instrument.. sometimes felt a bit weird and I got this "not playing a real instrument- thing," like : "Which instrument do you play?" "I´m ONLY playing recorder". On the one hand, it is a good thing to teach kids playing the recorder but on the other hand many people don`t take it serious when people over the age of 8 are playing it ... it is such an underrated instrument!
But you`ve given me new confidence for it, and now, here I am, waiting for my first tenor recorder which will be sent today 😍
Lots of greetings from Germany and have a great Christmas-time :)
What an amazing video! Thank you for sharing with your fans.
Great history lesson on recorder development! Quite cool. Thanks! :)
Marvelous presentation and evaluation of the pros and cons and needs or challenges. Genuinely appreciate this!
Amazing instruments. I'm saving up for some of these, and seeing these demonstrations has been really helpful. Thanks!
Lovely!!!
A notification that my order from the Team Recorder shop is arriving came just as I was watching this video. Happy Birthday Team Recorder!
Beautiful, classy instruments. Thanks for showing.
They're beautiful! 🥰🎶
Really, really cool! Thank you. As a (generously) an intermediate recorder player, i find the challenges of the baroque instrument both intriguing, but also discouraging. There are many times I would love the opportunity to not have to concentrate on so many details at once. Not a magical shortcut, just something to help me make progress.
Cool Recorders! Thanks! Happy Christmas!🌞😎✌️🎅🏻🎄
I have never clicked so fast on a thumbnail!! I just wish I made it a day earlier
Interesting!! 😁😁
I'm a bagpipe player and I totally understand the part of 'enjoying the struggle of making it do what you want'.
I tried electronic bagpipes and they are cool and offer a lot of posibilities, but they are simply not the same thing.
Wow!
nicely made video and the most important one . sort of
Well, that 09:05 moment sounded pretty Jethro Tull-ey!!!
Hello Sarah! What makes the difference between a harmonic flute, and a non-harmonic flute? What makes a flute a "hamonic" one? What in the design, technology, factory... makes this difference? Thanks!!
Cause: mostly to do with the shape of the bore, which affects the end-correction.
Effect: If you have a simple cylindrical pipe and you overblow it, it's out of tune with the lower octave.
@Felix Gendron - Oliver Lamb is correct. With normal recorders when we overblow the lower notes (until the note cracks and becomes higher) unfortunately the new high note is not in tune - it is not a full octave higher but a semitone out. This means that the lower notes on a recorder can only be played relatively softly - the hardest note to get right - when beginning - on the alto is that low F because it breaks and won't speak clearly.
However, with the harmonic recorders (like the Mollenhauer moderns) when you blow hard you get a note that remains stable with greater breath pressure - so you can have a powerful - forte - low F.
In short, harmonic recorders allow for a greater dynamic range - and it is the shape and length of the bore that allows for this - it's all to do with how the air moves about inside I guess.
This makes me want to somehow fit a recorder head on my clarinet
Hi Sarah. Loved the video, so many talking points but I'll stick to one point. Around 14-15 mins you talk about the flexibility of the Helder. Having many variables is not always a good thing in my experience, feel free to disagree. My background is synths, but the point applies to many different instruments. When the musician is faced with limitations it can faciliitate more creativity than having so many options, that you may lose sight of what you're trying to do musically. You can get lost in the possibilities. Knowing the limitations of the baroque recorder you can coax the best from it. It often means with limitations you have to think creatively about getting the best out of what you've got. You could be there for ever thinking what if I do this? I'm going through all your back catalogue and I am learning so much thanks to you. The hard yards begin when I get my Aulos and Yamaha alto plastic recorders this weekend. However, you have already thrown a spanner in the works with the Yamaha alto Venova. Keep up the fab work that you do.
That's got a nice sound
I personally prefer that sharp reedy sound rather than the softer sounding recorders.
Sarah: playing an Old Recorder and learns how to use it in 4:35
Me: Playing the Soprano recorder for 1 - 2 years and don't know how to use it.
Wow
Lovely range of possibilities. I only wish these innovative flutes are made more accessible and mainstream, not to mention affordable. Any chance of that? About AUS$5000 for one here.
Amen to that. I want upgrade so bad but can't afford to !
Hey Sarah! Have you tried the TH-cam phenomenon known as the “mario kart lick” on recorder? Id love to see it :)
The bottom third of the first two instruments look like they have been switched as the colours don’t match but they would match if switched. Perhaps the builder got them mixed up and then with alterations they are now locked as is.
I thought that too
Amazing recorder but way too many options for me. I have a modern alto and baroque alto and find myself playing the baroque most of the time. This was a great video, I did wonder what the Helder really was and thankfully (for my pocket anyway) I will stick my denner.
Very interesting, its high time the recorder was brought into the 21st century
To me, I did hear that these recorders can play 3 to 4 octaves... That's neat, but curious on " Is the bore identical to the flute's or not? "
Which type of recorder (Alto or tenor) do you recommend when playing a duet with violin?
Please let your army of 140K artists make the merch art next time.
1800's, 19th century. 👌 😉
Stupid English language
You pronounce the Dutch names good. Sounds like you are a native Dutchman
she lives in the netherlands.
@@billyt8868 o really? thought she lived in england. make sense then
Next video. Tutorial plsss
And this is probably why resin recorder creator Bernolin still uses wooden blocks for them.
Cool! Where can I get one cheap? (Used is fine)
Nowhere cheap I’m afraid! Try the second hand instrument shop at Early Music Shop in the UK, or recordersforsale.com. But they’ll usually be a couple to a few thousand 😕
Dear Sarah and recorder friends, do you think it's advisable to learn both recorder and flute or should I stick to only one, just an aficionado, not planning to go pro, just to enjoy music
I play both and it's okay for me. But you have to think about the time aspect. I'm better and I'm progressing more on the recorder right know because currently i just put more effort in it. The flute is just something i do now and then.
I would recommend that you (depending on the time you have) try both and see were it leads to
I think I don't quite get the point: what would be the presumable purpose of these things??
Sarah do you have any advises for beginners learning Dutch?
Have you used Duolingo?
@@iolair1973 I did...but I am like... searching for resources that teach you more colloquial Dutch for speaking in day-to-day conversations
Her Instagram is sockmyshoe
The keys makes me think of a clarinet
6:24
Hi you should watch dragon force recorder cover
expensive instruments sre fun.
I'm confused. I just begun to get along with my ordinary baroque recorder and now this. It's so complicated with all that keys. And of course I would never be able to get one. But somehow my old recorder now feels like writing a letter with a candlelight, knowing that electric bulbs are a thing. And emails. Confused 🌬
Most violinists would never swap their baroque-modelled instruments for most of the "innovations" of the last two centuries, excepting strings, where only a small minority of players use gut. The recorder designs "perfected" around 1710 are ideally suited for the music of that era (which, strangely enough, was written expressly for that instrument), and work wonderfully with a lot of modern repertoire. They are a well-suited tool for a particular job, but there are other jobs out there.
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Take a cold shower.
(She has a partner and a child).
I wonder if it is really smart to keep on making recorders with tiny double holes in the low register, which is a terrible design from Acoustics point of view!
Recorder players are really weird musicians.