Choosing a wooden recorder: WHICH WOOD?!| Team Recorder

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  • I have partnered with The Early Music Shop in London to bring you videos and live streams designed to help you select the right recorder for you!
    Which wood should you choose for your new recorder? There are many different woods and it can get overwhelming. I take you through no less than seven popular choices, demonstrating their sound, and explaining everything from price to durability to allergies!
    Ad disclosure: this video is sponsored by the Early Music Shop. All instruments are on loan, to be returned after filming.
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    /// TIMESTAMPS
    01:12 playing each in turn
    03:32 price differences
    04:40 maple
    05:50 pear wood
    06:22 boxwood
    07:42 palisander
    08:22 rosewood
    09:03 olivewood
    09:44 grenadilla
    10:20 my thoughts on sound
    10:54 durability
    11:56 allergies and climate
    12:38 short comparison again
    13:08 The Early Music Shop info
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    seven Moeck Rottenburgh alto recorders in the woods:
    maple, pear wood, boxwood, palisander, rosewood, olivewood and grenadilla
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  • @navinsawesomeanddivineacco4221
    @navinsawesomeanddivineacco4221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    *Looks at cheap plastic recorder*
    Don't worry, i still love you.

    • @Hiroyuki_T
      @Hiroyuki_T 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I noticed the plastic really sounds plastic-y because maybe of the resonance of plastic. Of course wood is chosen but treated with paraffin

  • @uabpsab
    @uabpsab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    As a builder these are my thoughts: The harder the wood the louder the instrument...up to a point: very hard woods as grenadilla and ebony tend to add ringing resonance (like a bell), not good. A more porous wood like jacaranda is fine but makes the windway harder to make "perfect". A soft(er) wood like pear or maple absorbs more of the vibrations and thus becomes less loud-perfect for a high tessiatura instrument. For an alto nothing beats boxwood IMHO, dense and heavy. Also a dream to work with, its like turning soap! But boxwood will always get expensive because of its tendency to warp. You have to dry it forever and then still some instruments warps.

    • @ankavoskuilen1725
      @ankavoskuilen1725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just bought a boxwood alto recorder in august last year and I totally love the sound. I didn't know it could easily worp so thank you for mentioning this!

    • @uabpsab
      @uabpsab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ankavoskuilen1725 If it hasn't warped yet its almost certainly never going to. Warping typically occurs close after turning.

    • @uabpsab
      @uabpsab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @1978ajax I have done that a few times, no problem at all except estetics.

    • @zarkaylia1735
      @zarkaylia1735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My boxwood alto is still strong after 20 years. It's just got a brilliant sound, warm and round where it should be and clear as still water and delicate where it should be. My complaints with it have always ever been due to the current form of either myself or the instrument, nothing permanent ever.

    • @KakeiTheWoIf
      @KakeiTheWoIf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pelle Sabelström, I find your knowledge of this topic quite intriguing, and you have piqued my interest? Do you, by any chance, use Discord or Skype? I would love to discuss the concept of various woods for recorder and see what your insights would entail.
      Discord is Eon Fox#5887 and Skype is veronicathefox.

  • @tasteapiana
    @tasteapiana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm a woodworker and have worked with all of the species you presented in this video. I must say, I couldn't have explained it better, you did a great job here. I've looked through many of the comments posted and they run the field of crazy all the way from end to end lol. The thing I've found with any species is how well they can be smoothed internally and that impacts wind rushing through the internal passages greatly. If there are any edges with torn wood fibers, we will hear that. The ''woody'' or reedy (raspy, even) qualities of a wind instrument are exacerbated by rough internal surfaces, including at the valves/openings. Contours matter. It's easy to work the outside of a wooden instrument but it's a total nightmare to get similar results on the inside. I have my favorite wood species and they align closely to what you stated here but I think, overall, someone unfamiliar with the subject will be well advised by watching this video. I, on the other hand, would probably just confuse most people with rants about wood qualities - which, in the end and on a case by case basis, change according to each slab of wood; one day olive gives you a massive headache, the next it's just lovely and the same can be said of almost all wood types. The perfect instrument doesn't exist but those that come the closest to perfect are all made by craftspeople and luthiers that go the extra mile while making them. Antonio Stradivari's violins are NOT sought after because he used magical wood ;)

  • @someshsp
    @someshsp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i heve a rottenburgh olivewood tenor i am now living in thailand i have had it at least 25 years and it is still going strong. i love my instrument and the artist is me,
    hurrah

  • @josequins9099
    @josequins9099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love the olive sound and it's pretty too, with it's contrasting grain markings.

  • @wangzihao.
    @wangzihao. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    When the wood gets darker, the more expensive it gets

    • @jooikw
      @jooikw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So ebony is the most expensive one...

  • @Lucas-pv3ov
    @Lucas-pv3ov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sarah: A
    My brain: dont make this stupid joke
    My mouth: Ok
    My fingers typing: Is it 440 or 415?

  • @orirune3079
    @orirune3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They all do sound quite similar but to me the rosewood and olivewood were the standouts. The worst in my ears was boxwood, which is interesting because I see a lot of comments saying the boxwood was their favorite!

    • @blueashdogs3639
      @blueashdogs3639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am inclined to agree with you! I came across this video because I have a secondhand Moeck Alto which came to me over-oiled and I was trying to find out more about it. I managed to get it back into working order, and it now has a lovely round sound, but it is difficult to play the very high notes (maybe that's just me) and very quiet on the lowest ones. I was thinking of investing in a tenor and was wondering whether to go with the same brand/wood... tripped over this video, and because I need a number of keys because (my hands are quite small) have fallen in love with the Mollenhauer Denner Comfort - however from a NZ supplier it is $2k!!!!! That's a lotta money to spend on something I am not all that good at playing, but enjoy because it is something completely different from the rest of my life which revolves around dogs.

  • @eswing2153
    @eswing2153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That’s the longest ad on TH-cam and I watched the whole thing and enjoyed it. Thanks. It’s great to hear you play!

  • @LobkeSprenkeling
    @LobkeSprenkeling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video! And I absolutely agree with you that in the end the recorder sounds as the player! As for the Moeck alto recorders, with my students in Valencia (very humid) I had to go from boxwood to olive wood, because the boxwood instruments would close up in 25% of the cases. With the olive wood we didn't have any problem anymore, and I liked their sound better. In general I would choose for harder woods or the olive wood in warm, humid climates - imaginably so with a more open wind way because condensation goes really fast. Also in those climates the risk of mould is quite a lot bigger. Still in Valencia, I decided to buy a sopranino recorder of maple wood, and ever since I've just loved its softer rounder sound. The disadvantages were that the thumb hole wore out immediately (I got it a thumb ring very quickly) and it's very vulnerable to temperature changes. In general, I've never been too fond of the really hard woods because I always felt they were just not flexible. But I should give it a go again ;)

    • @mariquilla8891
      @mariquilla8891 ปีที่แล้ว

      ¡¡Hola!! Yo vivo en Alicante y estoy pensando en comprar mi primera flauta de madera, barroca. ¿Recomiendas peral o arce para esa zona? Mi presupuesto es bajo, máximo 100€, por lo que otros tipos de madera se me van de precio.

  • @saashuseini56
    @saashuseini56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I prefer Rosewood. Quite warm, sustainable, bold and intense sound it has. 😊 What else? 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @alexalestareon695
    @alexalestareon695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A little tip. The dark palisander is also sometimes called rosewood. And the orange rosewood is also sometimes called tulipwood. Both are rosewoods, one is more expensive. So if you see a rosewood recorder cheaper than another rosewood, the more expensive one is probably tulipwood. (In the same line by the same maker. The model could also play a role in the price.)

    • @mlapergola
      @mlapergola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeps!! There is a bit of confusion as so many woods are called "rosewood". As found on www.vonhuene.com/t-recorderwood.aspx:

    • @LobkeSprenkeling
      @LobkeSprenkeling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting! That's good to know!

    • @diegoemanuelvillalobo5990
      @diegoemanuelvillalobo5990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Spanish names there are the same confusion with jacaranda and palisandro, and quality are determinated by origin. And is another specie, jacaranda boliviano, that is not a dalbergia

  • @leunghoiyeeflora
    @leunghoiyeeflora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Sarah, for the video and all the advices!

  • @westsidebilling
    @westsidebilling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sarah - your youtube lessons on the recorder are the best there is! This is very good information for those with excellent hearing, or serious students of the recorder (or both) IMO - for those with some tone deafness or with little time to play, a Yamaha plastic recorder will suffice nicely. My old YRS-24B has been going strong for 15 years, and requires very little maintenance.

  • @isaiahbaggett5014
    @isaiahbaggett5014 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a treat for composers. Thanks for great information!!!!

  • @mariusluciannicolae3109
    @mariusluciannicolae3109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please never stop posting, I love your videos

  • @jerrykitich3318
    @jerrykitich3318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They all sound lovely
    Maybe Maple. Grenadilla is a tough wood to use. From chopping it down, to ageing. Watch a documentary on making clarinets to get the idea.

  • @elusiveeskimo3013
    @elusiveeskimo3013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a German Rosewood recorder that got left on the seat of a car on a hot sunny day. By the time I got to it much wax had sweated from the wood.Thinking the worse I carefully whipped off all the excess wax, then tried playing it. To my surprise and delight I found the recorder's sound was softer and more mellow then before. A very pleasant sound that fit all the styles of music I play. But the most important takeaway from this experience is that hot environments can sweat wax from wooden recorders, changing their sound. May not always be for the best so be careful.

    • @edeka3
      @edeka3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's an amazing story haha! Did you oil it right afterwards?

    • @elusiveeskimo3013
      @elusiveeskimo3013 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edeka3 Not immediately after since it had a fresh layer of oily wax, both inside and out. Do oil all my wooden recorders and native American flutes regularly to keep the woods stable.

  • @zacharyprezotti6565
    @zacharyprezotti6565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your videos! You actually inspired me to take up the recorder! I always wanted to learn to play an instrument, and the recorder seems to suit me well.
    I got myself a plastic Yamaha soprano and actually got my husband an alto "flauta doce" as he calls it, and am trying to convince him to learn so we can play together! Haha
    Even though I am a very beginner, I enjoy watching all of your videos to see how I might sound if I keep with the recorder!
    Thank you! ❤️

  • @joelford94
    @joelford94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh man, I've never had an allergic reaction to a recorder, but I have to my students' playing.

  • @rebeccacalloway7897
    @rebeccacalloway7897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After watching this, I was convinced I would go for boxwood. I got to try a bunch of models on Saturday and went with soprano in Palisander, alto in Grenadilla, and tenor in cherry. I guess you just never know until you try them out! And yes, I bought 3 recorders in one day, but there is no shop local to me so I was on a recorder buying vacation and saved up to get more than one since I can’t go frequently 😁

  • @Michajeru
    @Michajeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I preferred the pear wood over the maple but overall I would probably choose the olive wood.

    • @ravinamkaur
      @ravinamkaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

    • @rickmccloy4201
      @rickmccloy4201 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have an alto and a soparino in olive, both by Kung, and although it sounds silly, I think that the absolute beauty of the wood has some effect on my playing. It is likely some sort of placebo effect, but I just feel more inspired than when, for example, playing my alto in pear ( also a Kung Superio). So it might be ridiculous from an acoustical P.O.V., but the placebo effect is a well documented phenomenon--perhaps to a degree, it sounds as I expect it to sound. At the very least, olivewood does make for an absolutely gorgeous recorder.

  • @kurtisburtis
    @kurtisburtis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought I’d prefer one of the tropical woods, but ... I’m surprised to find how much I enjoyed the lightness of the maple, followed by olive.
    🤔

  • @ABAlphaBeta
    @ABAlphaBeta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love the Medieval and Baroque content!

  • @Tvianne
    @Tvianne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My absolute favourite is pearwood, and a distant second is olive wood. No third!

  • @jfthesixth8420
    @jfthesixth8420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice flute thanks for recording

  • @Raxx777
    @Raxx777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting comparison- love this vid

  • @marie_171
    @marie_171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the demonstration on the various wood for recorders. I have a maple basic recorder. The sound is so much better than the previous plastic recorder I owned. I just wish I had an F/F# key on my alto to reach the low note. I used to play oboe in the past and my oboe was grenadilla like most oboes. But I had the chance to try someone’s rosewood oboe and I just loved the sound. I agree that wood does make a different, especially when we’re the one playing the instrument.

  • @BlameItOnGreg
    @BlameItOnGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really liked the sound of the pear wood and the palisander.

  • @ugrasdurmus8704
    @ugrasdurmus8704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks a lot for this great comparison video....

  • @krzysztofbednarek9485
    @krzysztofbednarek9485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super , I like it , Thank You .

  • @fcopaja
    @fcopaja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I own the grenadilla Rottemburgh, and in love with it. Low G is a key note to look after; overtones just flourish there and is easier to notice differences.

    • @szaboaz
      @szaboaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. Those lower register especially could speak about love, life, passion, in the hand of a real artist. Which I'm not, but I like the fact that the possibility is there. My teacher always said to use more air on those to bring out the richness.
      One thing I didn't like is that the recorder holder box it came in, which is otherwise a quality piece and surely keeps the recorder safe, has a velvet like outer finish, which became a sticky black mess over the years. I hope they don't use that material anymore at Moeck.

    • @simonlajcman4031
      @simonlajcman4031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own the maple one and its my absolute favourite out of all

  • @WolfyGreen
    @WolfyGreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My preference has moved to woods like Pear after years of restricting myself to Grenadilla. My Waldorf Edition tenor recorder in Pear is a delight to play with the band.

  • @pigeon4422
    @pigeon4422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the pearl wood :)

  • @jjf6257
    @jjf6257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! This was informative, as your videos often are. But I still would like to try them all personally and feel the instrument, not just hear it. I think that's a common problem when choosing a new instrument and buying it online. This was a good start, anyway. You can hear the differences between the woods, and every instrument has different sound. Like a friend of mine says: anything made of wood is a unique product and you can see the soul of the artefact by using it.

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly - two 'identical' recorders from the same wood can still be very different. I had this when trying out my tenor.. well if you're in the UK you can try their approval service! If not, you can give them an email and see if something can be sorted out!

  • @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825
    @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved rosewood and the second one

  • @jcsouthin1197
    @jcsouthin1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    helpful Team recorder☺😊🎼🎶🎵

  • @gblan
    @gblan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Stoecker made of rose wood from the East Indies, love it.

  • @shkedov.b
    @shkedov.b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a palisander moeck rottenberg alto and it's aboslutely stellar

  • @jitingzhang9623
    @jitingzhang9623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Granadill, absolut my best choice ever.

  • @bruceritchings5336
    @bruceritchings5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To my ears, the softer the wood, the "rounder" the sound, and thus the more pleasing (to my ears). Maple is NOT a soft wood, in the relative range of woods---there are MUCH softer woods, but it seems (to my ears) that maple produces the most pleasing sound---could this be because I'm a Vermonter?.

  • @user-cg2qs4vs4c
    @user-cg2qs4vs4c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @gatozarin
    @gatozarin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the Rosewood and Boxwood recorders!!!
    "the *burning* questions" at the end 😂😂
    btw your outfit is so good!

    • @Hiroyuki_T
      @Hiroyuki_T 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boxwood needed more attention tho because it warps. Other instruments still warps even it's aged longer than others

  • @lemonemmi
    @lemonemmi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a dirt cheap maple soprano, and I love it so much. It's factory made and out of tune, but the tone is amazing! It's my absolute favourite recorder, and it shows, at it's getting worn...
    I'm very happy I actually prefer the mellowness and meeker quality of the soft wood... As I couldn't justify buying an expensive hard wood instrument just for amateur use...

    • @deezynar
      @deezynar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take it to a person who can fix recorders. It can probably be made right as rain.

  • @mauriciolacruz
    @mauriciolacruz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I generally prefer denser things in life, they give me the sensation I'm holding more robust and better quality things in my hands. Hence, my vote (apart from its gorgeous sound) goes to grenadille.

  • @watzup62
    @watzup62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm no expert but the maple and pear wood recorders seemed a bit somber while the rosewood and grenadilla recorders seemed much more lively and focused. the rest seemed to be a good middle ground for tone with the olive wood recorder sounding a bit more versatile than the rest. The rosewood recorder had a sound quality that none of the others had though and it's hard to put my finger on exactly what that is but I like it. It is very apparent that the mood of a piece of music could really be enhanced by using the right tone wood with these instruments.

  • @Clarionetist
    @Clarionetist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought a Kung Superio in Pearwood from the Early Music Shop. The price is actually cheaper than listed if you are outside the EU since VAT is excluded. So a £300 recorder is actually £250 if you are not in the EU (divide by 1.2), which is about $305 in US dollars.

  • @grytshrt
    @grytshrt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Sarah! Love your videos. Thanks for this video, it was perfect! I was wondering if you could discuss or maybe demonstrate what is meant by the different qualities of timbre: bright, dark, warm, crisp, covered, reedy, clear, sweet, etc.? I have an idea, but would love to hear your thoughts on it, as so many woods or models are described in those terms? Thanks!

  • @Nanananaheyhey1
    @Nanananaheyhey1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I was so excited for this video. I just bought a tenor recorder in pear wood and I like the tone, however the low register is so quiet :/

    • @justincronkright5025
      @justincronkright5025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Out of all of them here & in a few choice other videoes I've found I actually like the Pear-Wood & the Maple. However, at least for Maples, how do they work with so many species around the world... Perhaps with a few choice other maples it could strengthen/diversify the tones. I assume that's unlikely for pear-wood though, but still your recorder sounds like a nice grab.

    • @sleekoduck
      @sleekoduck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Pear Wood was my favorite as well.

    • @JoachimMink
      @JoachimMink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How loud the lower register of a tenor recorder sounds depends also on it length. Short tenors are not as loud as long tenors in the lower register. For example: The short Moeck Rondo tenor in maple is not as loud as the long Thomann tenor in plastic in the lower register. But it is more handy.

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan ปีที่แล้ว

    [analytics] Early Music Shop London. Very real thanks from a very real person from Michigan, USA.

  • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
    @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Oxford, the Ashmolean museum has some old flutes lined up. A couple of those are Brazilian and the types of wood are in the descriptions. This might be useful to woodwind musicians in humid climates.

  • @NickiMacB
    @NickiMacB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a mollenhauer pearwood recorder that I have to be honest I have had rather a love hate relationship with. I loved it when I first got it and chose it over instruments which were twice the price. But I have had to get it recorked after just 6 months as the joints became loose and thumb bushed as this wore down. It was regularly oiled but became hoarse and I just couldn’t play it. However I have recently had it recorded and wow what a difference- it is like a new instrument and plays exactly as I want- I just love it!

    • @deenahansen5772
      @deenahansen5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im curious as to why you oiled your pearwood recorder, I thought she said in the video that the maple and pearwoods did not need to be as they were coated with wax/paraffin.

  • @Cadwaladr
    @Cadwaladr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I liked the boxwood the best. It sounded good, but also I just like boxwood in general, my favourite set of chisels have boxwood handles.

  • @14isaque08
    @14isaque08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, the maple and pearwood recorders are a deal. The mapel sound more larger than higer and the Pearwood more soft and higer than maple. In the future, I will get the soprano recorder made in pearwood. Thank you Sarah, I'm brazilian and I love you!

  • @ApacienciaNECESSARIAparaOgoogl
    @ApacienciaNECESSARIAparaOgoogl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video!

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boxwood is higher up the Janka Hardness scale than any of the others, except possibly the rosewood. And the uncertainty on that is because there are several varieties of rosewoods, each having slightly different characteristics. The palisander, and grenadilla, are both from the dalbergia family, meaning they are also rosewoods.
    Boxwood has a beautiful buttery look to it, and the grain is extremely tight, which means it turns very easily and smoothly. Its downside is the trees are relatively small, so it's like trying to get wood out of sticks. It is unpredictable, a high percentage of the cut wood warps, twists, and/or splits. Because of that, it's expensive. But the rosewoods are costly too.

  • @ABAlphaBeta
    @ABAlphaBeta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd love to see more content on bass flutes, I've been toying with getting one but I've no idea if I might be any good at it (I was trained with a standard plastic Yamaha recorder and got not too bad, I could probably play something like Greensleeves seamlessly)

    • @stevewolfe3214
      @stevewolfe3214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't want to shatter the piggy bank. Go find a resin Yamaha Base first. The Yamaha Tenor or Aulos Symphony Tenor is also nice :)

    • @stevewolfe3214
      @stevewolfe3214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some people find the finger stretch on an alto almost too much. Again the barrier is low if you get a resin Yahama 300 or 400 series , Aulos haka, Zen-on ,

  • @AnnBurgess00
    @AnnBurgess00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was holding my breath you would talk about the woods most of my recorders are made from. The boxwood came up (very interesting - where does Zapatero boxwood fit in with this?); grenadilla was there (it had to be the last one, didn’t it? But the one I was hoping might be plumwood turned out to be palisander, something I mistakenly thought was the same as rosewood. Ah well, I learned something new, even if the wood of my favourite recorders was missing. Any comments on plumwood?

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the Zapatero will be very similar to the Castello - both South American boxwood-like types if I'm not mistaken. Plumwood is a fruit wood rather than a tropical hardwood (like palisander), so I think it will be between the pear wood and palisander in terms of... everything :)

  • @drahomirmrva3855
    @drahomirmrva3855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the Pearwood and Olivewood the best.

  • @christophertsiliacos8958
    @christophertsiliacos8958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👏 Hi Sarah - I’m not in the woods by a long shot. 😲
    All my recorders are exotic imports from the orient (made in Japan). But if I ever decide to go wood, I plan to purchase the Bentley and the Rolls Royce of all wooden recorders. You might have guessed. Drum roll please: the Mollenhuer DE-1101 soprano recorder by Jacob Denner. It’s the one that’s handcrafted from the finest wood indigenous to India and Sri Lanka - the one and only satinwood. As if you didn’t know. 😉 🎶

  • @shkedovb
    @shkedovb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own a palisander alto moeck rotenburg, it's fantastic!

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese3300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't play recorder, but grenadilla is certainly a preferred wood for old-style flutes. I adore it -- the only thing better is Delrin, and that's just because it's so much easier to look after. I LOVE me a good Delrin flute.

  • @denischasse3567
    @denischasse3567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci 😊

  • @idraote
    @idraote 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Sarah, this was another nice video.
    I have understood that I am one for the harder woods. Let's say from palisander up. This time, though, I didn't like grenadilla best. Olivewood and rosewood were those I liked most.
    My only qualm about rosewood is that it is an umbrella definition for several different types of trees coming from different parts of the world. And the one I get could sound different from the one I've heard. Were I to choose today, I'd go for the olivewood. It had a surprisingly fine sound to my ears.

    • @jbloveday9538
      @jbloveday9538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      idraote Also, Rosewood is over-exploited and endangered and protected worldwide,so perhaps not a good choice from an environmental aspect. My husband has a Dolmetsch rosewood treble which we bought in 1987 from the Hazlemere workshop. It was adapted with a special key to fit his left hand which has half of his index finger missing from a childhood accident. We met Doctor Brian Blood when we bought it. It’s a lovely instrument. Sadly he also had a reaction to the wood of the block and as we had returned to NZ by the time he realised we could not go back to the workshop so after much thought and some trepidation he also varnished it with clear nail varnish and had no trouble after that.

  • @theangelchannelofficial1734
    @theangelchannelofficial1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like pearwood and palisander and grenadilla!

  • @nikolanovakovic4150
    @nikolanovakovic4150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are amazingggggggggggg

  • @Ced77000
    @Ced77000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own 2 moeck grenadilla recorders, a soprano and a tenor. The soprano is very easy to play compared to the other soprano I have which is a Moeck boxwood. The tenor is very colorful and warm, although a bit heavy but it's worth it.

  • @ariskazis4663
    @ariskazis4663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grenadila - Olive wood on top, easy!
    Next comes Rosewood.

  • @blauespony1013
    @blauespony1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hated the deeper notes on the flutes with the harder woods, but I liked the higher notes better on those flutes. So that would be my deciding factors.
    I think I liked the boxwood or palisander best.

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you’re interested in a regular standard concert C flute, please buy the one with the low C foot joint.

  • @drgonzo305
    @drgonzo305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know much about woodwind instruments but I build guitars and a good rule of thumb is the more dense the wood, the brighter the tone is going to be. Also there are a lot of different types of maple wood, regular maple, rock maple, sugar maple. The maple from the east coast of america is a pretty soft hard wood where the maple from the west coast is a really hard hardwood. Rosewoods are another group where there is alot of difference between them and some things that are called rosewood aren't actually rosewoods. Real brazilian rosewood will be extremely expensive since the cites accord banned the cultivation and export since it's been longer almost to extinction. That recorder doesn't look like real rosewood(maybe its sapwood) but it's far to light colored. It should be a dark rich red color. Mahogany is another wood were most of what your really getting is either sapele or african mahogany or okame. All african hardwoods that look like mahogany but real mahogany is from south america and has tight restrictions on what can be logged. I can't imagine the wood being as thick as it is would change the tone drastically since the sound isn't coming from the vibration of the wood but the airflow against it. I imagine the difference in tone will most come from the precision of manufacturing above all else, microns matter in this type of instrument. I wouldn't get too hung up on wood besides for looks. Try calling the wood and if you can hear a difference then maybe I'm wrong but if not I'd go for build quality of raw material

  • @BevMattocks
    @BevMattocks ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. I have Mollenhauer pearwood (my 'work horse' dependable model) + Moeck Olive wood (Ok but really difficult to break in & not great on the top F & G but beautiful looking), palisander (warm & mellow, possibly my favourite) & grenadilla (confident & carrying - a true solo instrument).

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d pick the maple wood & the pearwood myself, even in the bigger & deeper recorders, because they’re both cheap. My favorite deeper recorders are: F alto, C tenor, F basset, C great bass & F contrabass. Those are my favorite deeper recorders.

  • @heidisamuels7201
    @heidisamuels7201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sarah!

  • @frultimate6144
    @frultimate6144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Iam a recorder player
    Great vid. I think I'm gonna be a fan.
    You've just got a fan from Indonesia :D

    • @jesseindo5660
      @jesseindo5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Goodness me Im recorder player to

  • @MisterDavidBell
    @MisterDavidBell 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Olivewood the most, it has such an appealing sound. Grenadilla is a close second. Rosewood and Palisander were on par followed by Pear wood then Maple. Don't know why, but I'm not particularly fond of the boxwoods lower register, so I'd probably avoid that wood if I ever invest in a wooden recorder.

  • @Oaktreealley
    @Oaktreealley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason TH-cam had me unsubscribed from your channel! Wtf.
    Oh and thank you for this demo! ❤️

  • @dg92900
    @dg92900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all your hard work making great and informative videos. Funny too, often.
    You say here that a higher grade recorder in a cheaper wood is probably better than a lower grade model in a more expensive wood.
    In the "which wood recorder" video at the Aafab showroom you say the Aura student model could be good and the most expensive wood in that model is only 300 euros.
    Per your advice here shouldn't one choose the Aura Conservatorium in maple or pearwood over the student model in the tropical hardwood then?
    Thanks

  • @nightheme365
    @nightheme365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the maple best.

  • @tz64nk41
    @tz64nk41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's a parallel universe where Sarah is a stand-up comedian

  • @dangitdoodles
    @dangitdoodles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a saxophonist, I am absolutely curious as to how one does vibrato on a recorder! Is it the same as saxophone? Or is it don’t some completely different way? I completely love watching people who play different instruments to me!

  • @shannon8220
    @shannon8220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m looking at two different alto recorders for an intermediate for my husband. I have no knowledge about what’s best. Between a Aura BA alto and a vintage tenor moeck (don’t know anything else) which would you choose???

  • @classicalmusiclover7903
    @classicalmusiclover7903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sarah, this video has been very helpful, thank you.
    I am currently trying to decide between the Yamaha YRA802/803 in Kingwood/ebony respectively. I have ebony recorders but never had or heard one made from Kingswood. Do you have any advice on the type sound of Kingwood?

  • @vivianleenet
    @vivianleenet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I have a new recorder crush.
    brb going to go buy a grenadilla recorder.

  • @ulysg
    @ulysg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Into the woods lala lala lala

  • @thomaschamberlin2485
    @thomaschamberlin2485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wondered why you don't see cocobolo used for recorders. It is beautiful wood and is used for guitars and ukuleles as a tone wood. It turns out the earliest European recorders didn't use much tropical hardwood, mostly ebony. Then cocobolo was used and worked very well sonically, but was more highly allergenic than the other woods. Erik the Flutemaker makes a tin whistle from cocobolo, but uses a plastic mouthpiece. Even cocobolo knife handles have caused dermatitis so even fingering sound holes may be slightly risky for those prone to allergic reactions.

  • @marcelolopes3077
    @marcelolopes3077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Também quero ter uma coleção de flauta doce

  • @ronbutler6502
    @ronbutler6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sarah I have a NOS Hohher The box does not tell the type of wood and I dont know what it is How do I tell what wood it is mode of...BTW I am 72 years old and enjoy playing and enjoy your instruction Tks

  • @elinschulz9654
    @elinschulz9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi... i like the music you played wirh all of the instruments. It Sounds very good. I want to try to play it too. Whats the name of the piece of music you played?

  • @benwessels9879
    @benwessels9879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a helpful and fantastic video, but I want you to know that I liked this video because of that dreadful pun at the beginning XD

  • @kirstybeilharz8427
    @kirstybeilharz8427 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sarah, do you find the higher notes easier to obtain on the harder woods? Would you go so far as to say different woods have different upper limits? Thanks. Kirsty

  • @silkenatterer4769
    @silkenatterer4769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always Daphne and Bach for trying out recorders, love it :)
    Also a question: Does anyone have experience with recording recorders? It always sounds horrible on my phone (no surprise there) and I was thinking of buying a rather cheap microphone, but don't know which would be best for recorders. Does Sarah's video about microphones also apply if I don't want to amplify my sound, but to record it?

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha yes, always Daphne and Bach ;)
      Good point - my video on microphones was specifically for performance - recording is a whole different kettle of fish. I'll do a video on that at some point, when I can safely go to a studio and collaborate with an expert!

    • @silkenatterer4769
      @silkenatterer4769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Team_Recorder Thanks a lot, I am definitely looking forward to it!

  • @stokiepeas
    @stokiepeas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very interested in how the playing style or type of music can wear the instrument out faster?
    What was it about modern contemporary music that killed 3 recorded?

  • @donnamarienorton5396
    @donnamarienorton5396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Olivewood Mollenhauer :) Where did you get the necklace, btw? It's so pretty!

    • @Team_Recorder
      @Team_Recorder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! It was a gift for doing my final recital at music college from my girlfriend at the time, from a local artist shop in Birmingham- can’t remember who made it, sorry!

  • @alexg.5850
    @alexg.5850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about tropical hardwoods, is Teak used for any kind of woodwind instrument?

  • @urchincreature
    @urchincreature 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having extreme and very mixed feelings about the use of rare woods; guess it's just the cultivated woods for me. Can customers make enquiries about wood harvesting?
    Particularly I prefer prunus woods, as this is what seems to have been used for making medieval recorders.

  • @Landy82c
    @Landy82c ปีที่แล้ว

    Play a happy or peaceful / motivation musical …. See which one is good

  • @jannbecker3399
    @jannbecker3399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play a palisander Rottenburgh alto myself. My impression is that there is more variation in timbre between open and forked fingered notes as you go up the "food chain." That fits well with unequal temperaments in which the keys with more accidentals have weirder triads (to use the technical expression.) If you aren't playing the c minor Telemann Fantasia you may not even like this.

  • @densjukeguden7358
    @densjukeguden7358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a non recorder player, I'd say that Do and Re sound very gritty no matter the wood,while Mi sounds clean...?

    • @TheNighthorn
      @TheNighthorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sarah tried to push the sound to the limit. She wanted to know how loud the sound before gets cracking, especially the Do and Re because the lowest notes tend to be the softest and unstable.

  • @darrenate83
    @darrenate83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    been wondering their sound difference for a long time