My favorite part about this whole scene has always been the image of the three almost Viking-Esque Norwegian men on American Kate’s side protecting her because they know she may be the only one to outsmarting this thing. It also seems like she has the urge to also protect them with the aggression she shows Halvorson. She’s mad at him for dragging them all into this.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
4:30 "She's clever." This is somewhat more terrifying when you realize he actually is the thing and he's saying this. It really goes to show just how aware it is.
@Voth Betilia: The "host" is deceased. The monster caught this person alone somewhere and then after assimilating this person, the imitation must clean up the blood--and presumably obtain some new clothes from the victim's wardrobe before it can join the other humans and fool them. One of my major objections with this film is that they were too lazy to deal with this issue of clothes. If they had then I believe that they would have had a much better horror story--maybe even a cult shocker. But back to the intelligence exhibited by the thing here, well, it obviously must be at least as smart as the human that it has just killed--it has the persons speech and his or her mannerisms, does it not? Of course it can do this, after all , it can copy all the tissues of the human, including the brain.
At 3:41 the reason why he didn’t open his mouth. Is because he knew Kate was right about the thing can’t imitate inorganic material, And he was the Thing.
@@OmalleyDoc hehe its not *that* interesting, its just a bit funnier because of his dialect. Hes basically just yelling at them «åpen opp kjeften din tulling». Which basically translates to «open your mouth you bafoon». Its not that funny when you translate it to English even the accurate way, but understanding it combined with his dialect is what makes it funny for Norwegians. Also when it says «you’re next», hes actually saying «show your teeth now»
"So I'm gonna get killed because I floss?" Jesus, that's rough. But still, I wouldn't trust anyone in this scene as they're completely too calm and fine with standing so close to each other, if all it takes is one touch why would the be so comfortable standing in a group with people who may be infected.
It's a no win situation. Assuming it has full control of it's biochemistry (it does), the thing could create a stealthy delivery system for it's cells. Say, airborne spores. The ONLY solution is to assume everyone is infected, and essentially destroy the facility completely and all the people in it. The nuclear option
@@jakeg3733not necessarily. It was proven in the book that the thing cant infect things in the traditional sense, it has to actively and personally assimilate to infect people, the closest we get to that is the little hand monsters latching into the guys mouth
I honestly prefer The blood test in John carpenter's The Thing. It was so much suspensful and creepy because of the absence of music and the special effects
I like how all the humans without fillings argued about how ridiculous this test was, but the Edvard-Thing didn't say anything and just walked over to the corner. Humans will try and argue their way out of trouble because they're afraid of the consequences, it's simply part of our nature. The Thing, because it isn't really human and lacks fillings, instead just figures it's pointless to argue. To me, that's a very subtle clue for first time viewers that Edvard is the Thing while everyone else is human.
What's funny is how it plays out in the movie. Here: The Thing may be intelligent but it lacks something that a human does not: Human Emotion. It hasn't learned how a human behaves emotionally when their life is threatened. It doesn't provoke her because it knows she's right and any pushing or confrontation could prove a fatal move for it, so it just accepts that fighting is pointless(since it didn't work for anybody that 'failed' before it). Later, however, it learns the human emotion. When she catches the glimpse of Carter's ear and suspects something: It realizes she swindled it again. Only this time, it's learned how humans behave. So it pleads and begs for it's life. Interesting full circle in the movie that it learned how to plead for it's life between now and the Carter confrontation later.
I do like the potential false positive with this scene, the idea that even though they didnt have any fillings, they could still be human and they couldve been wrongly killed. That wouldve wouldve differentiated the film from the original, where it instead followed the original beat for beat, the red herring transformation, the self defence kill ect. It wouldve created a real sense of paranoia thoughout the film if it did its own thing. Even then its a shame that this all happened in the last 30 mins of the movie when the was so much downtime earlier on. They shouldve cut the 10 min alien ship part out and instead had this confrontation there at the arctic base.
I also like this ambiguity that this method did not prove that they are Things clearly. As we find out later, three of them were still human at this point. I was wondering how the movie would actually develop if Lars and Jonas brought the pilots from the tool shed. Carter would be proven human thanks the earring, we don't know if Derek would have fillings. I would be curious what would be the next course of action after checking the fillings.
All of this wouldve been a better experience since its not just them fighting the thing, but amongst themselves as well. The film shouldve had this scene happen around the 40 min mark, rather than so late into the film, where they quickly kill off like 6 characters in 6 mins.
The scene in the recreation room was quite dramatic and so, but I agree, after this scene there remained only three main characters (Colin did not play a role after this point as well until the same end although I like how his fate is incorporated into the events of the previous movie). it would be interesting to see them fight among themselves when they did not know with certainty who is the Thing. Contrary to the original movie there were less paranoia, the pieces were great - the big argument seconds before breaking in Carter and Derek (I had a feeling for a moment that Peder will burn them all only for having peace), but I wish more. I like the character of Colin for this - he brought the atmosphere of paranoia the most into the prequel as he distrusted and blamed all around him from the infection, similarly as Palmer in the original - but he was human all the time. Also this ambiguity could create arguments among the proven human as well - for example Peder could want to burn the suspected immediately with Kate against who wants to find another way (the rest is divided among these options)
u missed the point of the entire series. the thing in the first one.. was literally at deaths door.. and its action were literally fighting to regain its strenght... also its very tiring to transform and eat people... in the original movie... it learned from its mistakes.. then in the comics it was clearly learning very very well from past events..
What stops the thing from mimicking a substance to look like fillings, and how would it mimic cavity spaces or even the shape of enamel, or scars? It either copies information from your DNA or from what is presently there, if its the latter it would not fix cavities.
What even happened to him when the Americans pulled him inside, between then and the end when he's revealed to be one of the two Norwegians in the chopper chasing the dog.
This is a good process of elimination. The theory about having fillings proves you're human since the thing can't replicate that. I'm glad that this movie did its own thing instead of doing the blood sample-- it was tense but necessary. Although it wasn't perfect and only proved half the team. I see that this was a good way to know who's bullshitting.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
It at least eliminated some of them as possible things and separated the "suspected" until they could figure out another method to fully prove or disprove that they are things or not
@@SamDeMonic If the director couldn't make the film an homage to the original via the script/direction (the original tense and paranoid, the 'prequel' a schlocky action film) why would the effects matter? The first kill in the original was offscreen and hinted at via a shadow. The first kill in the prequel a giant horrific CGI monster rips a red-shirt apart. You can't do an homage to a thing you don't understand.
ProjectGibix “i’m glad this movie did it’s own thing instead of copying the older one” But i...it didn’t? It’s the same setup, Like this is the blood sample scene just with less clear results, It’s not new at all. I don’t fully hate it btw but to say it did it’s own thing is really stretching it.
In this scene, you can see how vulnerable they all are. When Kate said "right now its at least something", that was poignant--and realistic. And after what they had all just seen with their own eyes, they knew that this was for real!
"The Thing" is actually in my opinion the most terrifying of any horror creature. The concept of something that can assimilate you into its being and replicate you to 99.9% accuracy down to almost everything but long term memory is so horrifying. If you didn't know, you'd never know until you finally became the victim. It isn't malicious either. It doesn't have any sort of evil plot (besides an instinctual drive to expand). It isn't evil, it's just an animal with the capacity for higher knowledge and function. So much mimicable intelligence with no concept of morality is horrific.
You speak with forked tongue... Stop trying to impress with cockamaimie verbiage. You use the term victim, then say it isn't malicious or evil. If it's so harmless as you suggest, then there can't be any victimization....try and make sense when you talk.
Actually, we don't know. It's motives are never explained or shown. It is possible that it was scared and simply trying to survive, then escape. Every interaction it's had with humans ended in violence, so there is a chance that by _talking_ to it we might be able to reach an agreement that preserves both species. "Here, build your ship and we'll let you go, but if you continue to attack humans or try to move to a populated area we'll kill you"
I wish the whole movie was in Norwegian with english subtitles. Not only would it have been more accurate, but it would have been another aspect that would set it apart from its predecessor.
But that would distract way too much from the movie, reading subtitles all the time. They could have just pretended/implied they're all speaking norwegian though. I mean, in other languages, it's also dubbed and it doesn't make sense that they're not speaking English, but it doesn't distract from the plot since it's done simply to make it watchable.
A lot of Norwegian men in America or in Norway know English or at the very least understand basic English phrases. So there isn't usually a language barrier between an American and a Norwegian. The only character in this movie that doesn't speak any English is Lars.
Ok so. I haven't seen this movie or watched this clip yet but... something tells me it's a terrible idea to look into the mouth of what might be a Thing. Amarite?
Yeah, I feel like they shouldve gone with what the 1982 version did, mix human blood with potential thing blood. Mabye, it wouldve explained why the Thing in the 1982 movie thought to spill the blood, then again, the Things is really cunning so I don't know
@@tastefullythick7072 I know that u said u don't actually know but in that movie their initial idea was to do that test (mix their blood 1 by 1 with the thing blood to get a reaction) but somebody burned their lab with the blood samples in it so this test is actually a back up plan.
Maybe but any possible things have 2 flamethrowers aimed right at it, ready to torch it the moment it makes any violent reaction. Even the thing knows its fucked if it exposes itself like this
I really like Kate and Macready making cleaver ways To identify who’s a thing and who’s human. Shows they’re very smart horror movie heroes. It may seem lame compared to the blood test, but I like the idea of the thing copying everything except any inorganic parts they’re victim had before assimilating into them
@@markfox1545 They are/they're very smart is the correct form, not their very smart, dummy. Don't be the ass who corrects people when you're wrong yourself.
2:40 by the way, if you listen carefully to the music, you can hear part of the main theme of The Thing, which may have hinted that Sanders was the Thing. Well, it's just my theory, but it would be great if that's the case.
She's clever he says. The thing replies only "yeah". But look at the expression on his face and his eye movements. It clearly shows that the thing did not understand how to respond so it just said "yeah".
No, you got it mixed up. Edvard, the guy who said "She's clever," was the thing, while Sander was human. Either way, why would the thing only understand english, and not norwegian?
This was one of the best scenes-it stired the emotions. It was intense, and I got angry at a couple of those people too stubborn to open his mouth. And as we now know, the real Edvard was by this time dead. So no wonder the immitation wouldn't open its mouth-would Kate have observed holes, and no fillings? If Edvard had fillings, then that is precisely what Kate would see...
wow that adds another layer to it that i didn't realize. the thing could have truly been thinking 3 steps ahead. chances are that kate has no idea whether or not real edvard had fillings, but conceded submission to her test anyway rather than face it and fail, just in case
I contend that Evard must have had fillings. At some point he was killed and immitated, and his immitation had to spit out the fillings-just like Juliette's immigration did. Kate found Juliette's fillings on the bathroom floor, as well as her blood all over the showr. But Kate had no idea who that material belonged to-only finding that stuff confirmed her worst fears-and knew now that she had to flag down that chopper! Kate knew at this point that whatever they had found was dangerous, as did the others because of what happened to Hendrik, but Kate was sure at this point that this thing might actually be imitating humans! She tried to sound the alarm, but everything was going south fast. But back to Edvard, when they were checking fillings, in hind sight we know that what was looking back at Kate when she demanded Edvard open his mouth was not a human-it was some kind of hideous monster that was plotting against them. So Edvard must have had fillings, because this thing imitating him spit those out, and knew that Kate would see empty holes where fillings should be!
The thing cannot just replicate, but also create/shift organic matter (in this case teeth). We know this because of its ability to transform itself; it’s a shapeshifter. So if it wants to, it can simply fill in the space left by the fillings. It just can’t create the fillings themselves. So no, it wouldn’t have mattered
@Video Guy: The narrative of this movie is about a group of scientists that found something astounding--a visitor from another world, along with the ship that it evidentally came in. When it turned out to be alive, all they knew for sure was that it would try to kill them. But we the audience know absolutely nothing about the alien except that during a hasty observation under a microscope made by Kate and Adam, Kate voices the concern that the visitor may be replicating Hendrick. Kate now has misgivings that anyone should leave the camp, but even she is having trouble believing what she had seen herself with the microscope--until she finds in the washroom someone's tooth fillings and then blood all over the shower floor and walls. Kate's worst fears hit her all at once because now she's certain that someone else among them has been killed and replicated by a monster from space. However, the tooth fillings left behind indicate to Kate that whatever this thing can do, it cannot copy inorganic matter like tooth fillings. So it has a vulnerability--a way that it can be discovered, however perfectly that it can copy it's victim. By the scene in this clip, Edvard, as we will find out shortly, was deceased. He must have been attacked somewhere in the camp prior to this by one of those things. Kate knew that she had a way to verify that at least some of them were human because of what she had found in the washroom earlier--the tooth fillings. Now, if Edvard had clean teeth in life, then this thing masquerading as him here would have nothing to worry about by opening its mouth to let Kate have a look inside. It would still have to join the non-vetted group because fillings in someone's teeth are the only way to verify absolutely that someone is human with this test. But...if living Edvard had fillings, then the thing imitating him now would have copied/replicated all of Edvard's tissues, hair, bone, and teeth--including those teeth that have unfilled cavities in them. But it cannot copy fillings! That is probably what this monster did not want Kate to see because if she saw teeth that were rebuilt by a dentist--but without fillings--this would fill Kate with alarm, and she may well have signaled Peter and Lars to close in quick with their flamethrowers. Earlier I said "probably" because the film was leaving a lot of stuff to the audience to guess at. They didn't want to explain in detail everything in the story, as that would kill the intensity. They were trying to make an intense shocker with this film, and I appreciated that the cast took the material seriously. I think that they did a splendid job of transporting us, the audience, with this horror picture!
I like the fact that this test does work but is much more flawed than the blood test. It makes sense the first people to encounter this thing would have not perfectly designed a foolproof test, but that they clearly understood some of what the creature was capable of
The unnerving part of this scene is that the human being imitated is deceased , killed and assimilated off screen . Kate and the others who are still alive know that one or more of them could be one of those things , so when she holds the flashlight up to see into someone’s mouth , what may be looking back at her could be an implacable monster from another world that is plotting against them .
Notice how they are all noticing each other and stand away from each other but the Thing is different, it stands right in the middle of them all, right up close.
Kind of guessing it may have been during the autopsy, like he touched something he shouldn’t have or looked to closely (he explicitly found it ‘fascinating’) and accidentally infected himself.
There is a great tension here.Everyone is scared of being a thing, because they may not even know themselves.Every time they open their mouth it’s reluctantly in fear of them having being infected.When Edvard turn comes, he doesn’t speak, protest, he just stands there.A sign he is the thing, as he acts too calm and too robotic, and when he does speak he sounds far too perceptive, which is why I think the other doctor seems to hesitate, because his friend is acting too odd.
That would be too easy, and too silly, if they had it so that the people in this movie could "catch" this by contact. This movie worked for me because the Thing must wait for an opportune time before it decides to revert back to its true self, preparing to attack a new victim. But it cannot complete such a transformation instantaneously, and this is perhaps where it is most vulnerable. Its greatest asset is being able to hide amongst these people--to mingle. But when it decides to make its move, it goes all in, and as we saw what happened in the helicopter--or when the thing imitating Juliet reverted and tried to kill Kate--the transformations are disturbing. But this creature may be forced to transform at a bad time--the Griggs thing in the chopper may have guessed that the humans learned something, and that they were onto it. Maybe Kate, or someone else, found blood soaked clothes that belonged to Griggs--the movie didn't tell us. So back to the scene in the room where Kate demanded to see everyone's tooth fillings in order to rule out at least some of them, anyone who was human of course knows that--and the monster of course knows what it is. That's what made this scene nerve wracking--Kate had no way to know for sure that a hideous monster was regarding her through the now deceased Edvard's eyes as she held the flashlight up to see into his mouth.
@Joe the King Hawk : Thanks ! This film was trying for something realistic here. They were trying to make an intense shocker , for mature audiences. And the movie was sprinkled with clever clues, some subtle, and others not so subtle, in order to give us a heads up as to what could be happening. All in all, I liked the movie, although I thought that they could have made it more intense, and maybe just a little bit longer. This film was barely 1 hour and twenty minutes long. I think that it should have been maybe ten minutes longer.
Not exactly cos in the earlier scene before the chopper crash, the thing spat out those tooth fillings in the bathroom cos it couldn’t copy them. Kate explained that after the crash.
The fillings was a good elimination tactic , just put everyone in the question mark category on quarantine until you can find another further elimination tool
It would’ve been cool if they used blood samples from everybody to test who the thing like they were planning to before the thing destroyed the blood bags. This would’ve explained how the thing knew it had to destroy the blood samples
I like this better, they threw out the idea of a blod test earlier, so The Thing knows its a viable test, while also giving us a scene a bit different from the first movie.
@@charlehpock I'm not sure what you're smoking, but this is NOT a terrible movie by any standards. Sure, it may not be a classic like Carpenter's version, but it's a great sci-fi movie with a creeepy atmosphere, solid acting, and many tense moments.
@@paulkane7771 if you think this movie is reasonable or good, then you don't understand what makes a good movie. It got a 6.2/10 on IMDB... that's after 142k reviews... that's not a good movie or even an average one. The average is 6.8. That's OBJECTIVELY a below average movie in the opinions of 142k people. It's poorly executed, tries too hard to link with the original without being smart about how it does so, makes most of the characters out to be stupid, makes a mockery of the special effects, has cliché jump scare moments, barely has any of the tension of the original, shows way too much of the creature therefore making it not scary or sinister at all. I could go on. The movie is just weak.
I just wonder the level of intelligence the thing has reached over the thousands of assimilation’s it’s done across the cosmos. Just the subtle “she’s clever” is the thing recognizing it has a challenge in front of it one on the intellectual and wit level close to its own maybe
No it's not. It's a terrible movie and doesn't even hold a candle to the original in any way. If this had been a standalone film with no previous incarnation, it might have been OK, but given that we have no choice to compare it to the original, it's more of an insult to the intelligence of original film and the audience than anything.
This test isn't as effective as the blood test devised by RJ MacReady in the original 1982 movie. It's effective as far as proving if someone's human, but it isn't effective in the sense of exposing an imitation. Because the only individual that was actually an imitation during this was Edvard. Notice how he didn't even open his mouth, he just moved over to the Suspect group that either had clean teeth, porcelain fillings or were missing their fillings altogether?
the blood is NOT EFFECTIVE... IT ONLY WORKED ONCE.. because the thing never experience that before so id didnt know what to expect... the very next time we see the blood test again in the comics much later.. in south america outpost once they leave Antarctica... the thing itself starts the blood test.. it tests itself first in front of everyone.. and it passes the blood test... and it frames macready by making him fail the blood test...
@@InanisNihil The comics aren't necessarily considered canon to the movie- but the principle of of the blood test is that the Thing isn't intelligent enough to maintain its disguise when it is only a small amount of cells. So the human-sized Palmer thing was intelligent enough to refrain from transforming when his finger was cut to have his blood drawn- but the small collection of Thing-cells in the petri dish posing as blood aren't intelligent enough to refrain from transforming when they encounter a hot needle, even though Palmer-thing knew what the test would entail when his blood was drawn.
Remember the movie was quite good. But I know it got alot of crap by comparing it to the "original" (1982 version). Of course they should have kept doing the effect practical than cdi. But it was the time everything was done like that. Atleast the actors doing a great work so just accept it and enjoy the movie.
The film actually was supposed to feature alot more practical effects. However, when they showed the film to the execs, they demanded that they use alot more CGI and change the ending (which is another story.) If you want to see what I am talking about, look up the Thing: pilot cut.
We saw with the introduction of Edvard's character in the film that he's a smoker . And smokers typically have bad teeth . So Kate would have seen tooth fillings in Edvards mouth , had he permitted her to look in . And then Edvard would have been vetted as human in this scene . But Edvard did not open his mouth to show his fillings to Kate . And for a very good reason . We will find out shortly that that's not Edvard . Edvard is dead by this scene here . He got picked off somewhere else in the camp , the attack not shown . But the thing imitating Edvard here had to spit out his tooth fillings because it could not replicate those . So this thing knows that it cannot let Kate see those replicated teeth without the fillings in them . That would give it away , and Kate would have immediately backed away from the monster and let Peder and Lars close in with their flamethrowers . Creepy when you think about it .
They give a clue that Edvard is The Thing at 3:43. First two guys kept distance, third guy went to one side and Edvard went right in the middle which no sane human would do.
This scene was excellent because it added such a creepy realism that they now know how dangerous this enemy is . This one vulnerability of the visitor , that tooth fillings can betray it , really added to the intensity of the film .
Can't argue with that, but in theory this also proves who's human and who's infected. Didn't borrow the blood sampling and did its own thing which is great.
Since it can't replicate fillings, it's got me thinking what would be the case if it assimilated somebody with a hip replacement or a pace maker? Would those things be discarded?
This business about the tooth fillings was novel and excellent . The scene here was intense , and had the rest of the film been as good , why I believe that they woulda had themselves a real epic story here and a shocker of a horror picture .
If only Lars would have learned to speak English then he could have warned Macready and the others at outpost 31 what the “dog” really was a lot faster
This reminds me of what MaCready says in the 1982 Thing when doing the blood test. The Thing isn't a hive mind organism, it's individual parts of a creature with a built in instinct to survive. As long as a piece of it survives all other "things" are disposable. Probably explains why the Thing/Carter didn't stop Kate from destroying Thing/Sanders.
Its not supposed to be a guarantee though? Its just a way to narrow down possible suspects and cause paranoia. And they pointed out that its circumstantial themselves with the joke (“I’m gonna get killed because I floss”). If I remember correctly the blood samples were sabotaged or something so they couldn’t do the blood test, and it wouldn’t be very original if they just did the blood test again. I still prefer the blood test from the first movie though
Did you even watch the scene? MEW says something along the lines of it’s not definitive but it’ll eliminate some of us. She determines this by seeing the fillings on the ground and by seeing the bloody shower cleaned up, that meant that one of the people left at the base was a thing. They also actually set up not doing the blood test. There was no way for any of the characters to determine that every piece of tissue from a Thing was it’s own organism, it assimilated a dog, infects a guy who then infects a different guy leaving a bloody mess in a shower stall exposes itself on the helicopter during which the thing still in the base cleans up the blood but not the fillings then sabotages the blood which prevents them doing the scientific blood test. There was no way for any of them to realize that all thing tissue are their own organisms that will respond to stimuli. There was no head crawling away to give Kate that idea. Of course the arm off the dead guy breaking off and attacking the guys face like a giant bug may have given someone that idea but by that point the entire station was chaos and everyone was mostly dead anyway.
The fillings from the bathroom might not be from julliete but from edvard. Thats why he chose not to open his mouth,cause kate would see the holes from his teeth.
The test in itself is very clever, but the things little comment about her being clever is lore breaking. The thing never makes extraneous comments like that.
If the suits kept their greedy hands off of this movie and let the director and the amazing cast do their work, including ALL practical effects, original ending ect, this could've been amazing. But nooooooo.......
Well...tooth enamel is inorganic material. Now yes, teeth as a whole are not completely inorganic. They are not tooth shaped blocks of inorganic enamel sitting in your mouth. There is a lot of living tissue in your teeth, yes. However: the "crowns" (the white top of a tooth that is visible) are composed of enamel which is around 96% minerals. Only the other 4% are water and organic material. Also also this whole dental implant thing is illogical because when the thing assimilates someone, as long as the teeth and their fillings are intact, there is no reason for the thing to deal with them. Just assimilate all cells in the body and keep stuff like teeth and their fillings in their place.
This is ridiculous. She shouldn't have let the two go without checking, because it is entirely possible that the original person had fillings, but the copies did not, meaning she could have seen large holes in the teeth where fillings would have been to identify them.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
No I think you got them mixed up, Edvard is a thing, and HE was the one who called her clever. Also why would the alien know english but not Norwegian?
Why couldn't the Thing change the color of each tooth that had fillings to match those colors that we would see in the real world? They can do everything else to make their bodies look real. I'm not saying it has to create the metal it only has to reproduce the "look" of the filling.
My favorite part about this whole scene has always been the image of the three almost Viking-Esque Norwegian men on American Kate’s side protecting her because they know she may be the only one to outsmarting this thing.
It also seems like she has the urge to also protect them with the aggression she shows Halvorson. She’s mad at him for dragging them all into this.
“She’s clever.” So freaky that the Thing knew it was screwed but it still had some admiration for its adversary.
I know, I loved that detail. The norwegian actors here are top notch, I know them from my country.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
Oswaldo Reyes sander only got assimilated at the end, and the Thing wasn’t unleashed at this point.
@@oswaldoreyesfilms He speaks Norwegian in a later scene though.
I think the thing virus had not fully completed the infection of that guy.
4:30 "She's clever."
This is somewhat more terrifying when you realize he actually is the thing and he's saying this. It really goes to show just how aware it is.
Yes, the subtleties in this film, both before-and after the fact like in this scene, as u point out-enhance the creepiness of the scene.
"The thing" creature is highly intelligent.
It communicates with the humans as if it was one.
@@basiliosalvatorecucinelli3499 I think it just steals the intelligence of the hosts and use, thus repeating the same process
@Voth Betilia: The "host" is deceased. The monster caught this person alone somewhere and then after assimilating this person, the imitation must clean up the blood--and presumably obtain some new clothes from the victim's wardrobe before it can join the other humans and fool them. One of my major objections with this film is that they were too lazy to deal with this issue of clothes. If they had then I believe that they would have had a much better horror story--maybe even a cult shocker. But back to the intelligence exhibited by the thing here, well, it obviously must be at least as smart as the human that it has just killed--it has the persons speech and his or her mannerisms, does it not? Of course it can do this, after all , it can copy all the tissues of the human, including the brain.
Imagine if it was real
It would have the potential of wiping out humanity
At 3:41 the reason why he didn’t open his mouth. Is because he knew Kate was right about the thing can’t imitate inorganic material, And he was the Thing.
Because the thing is smart 😂
Duh stupad
That is true the thing organism virus probably infected and took him over already.
@@notthatdigusted7468 It's not exactly a virus, it's an alien that pretty much changes your entire DNA
@@erikthegamer5769 copies it. Becomes it.
I like how the Edvard-thing still gave Kate proper kudos for discovering a way to tell human from creature
I really like when Lars shouts at everybody to open up, or it seems like he's going to torch them if they don't
Its even better if you’re Norwegian and understand what hes saying. The subtitles arent really that accurate
@@GobbleWobble123 Could you give us a more accurate translation? You've got me curious now.
@@OmalleyDoc hehe its not *that* interesting, its just a bit funnier because of his dialect. Hes basically just yelling at them «åpen opp kjeften din tulling». Which basically translates to «open your mouth you bafoon». Its not that funny when you translate it to English even the accurate way, but understanding it combined with his dialect is what makes it funny for Norwegians. Also when it says «you’re next», hes actually saying «show your teeth now»
"So I'm gonna get killed because I floss?"
Jesus, that's rough. But still, I wouldn't trust anyone in this scene as they're completely too calm and fine with standing so close to each other, if all it takes is one touch why would the be so comfortable standing in a group with people who may be infected.
Generic Protagonist Fr tho I would’ve sat way on the opposite side
Because as soon as one of them attempts to grab or touch someone for no reason they would be found out as the Thing.
It's a no win situation. Assuming it has full control of it's biochemistry (it does), the thing could create a stealthy delivery system for it's cells. Say, airborne spores. The ONLY solution is to assume everyone is infected, and essentially destroy the facility completely and all the people in it. The nuclear option
@@jakeg3733not necessarily. It was proven in the book that the thing cant infect things in the traditional sense, it has to actively and personally assimilate to infect people, the closest we get to that is the little hand monsters latching into the guys mouth
They don't have a choice. They're being forced to stand next to each other.
I honestly prefer The blood test in John carpenter's The Thing. It was so much suspensful and creepy because of the absence of music and the special effects
The Heckler just shut the fuck up and watch the video...
It's a prequel movie. This was a test this group had done just as the blood test was something the others had done.
Ahkiloturnedskull 1800 damn calm the fuck down g
@@Georgefloydsneckk He did, and concluded the original was better.
I like both. It shows the main characters are really smart and thought of good ideas to figure out who’s human and who’s not
I like how all the humans without fillings argued about how ridiculous this test was, but the Edvard-Thing didn't say anything and just walked over to the corner. Humans will try and argue their way out of trouble because they're afraid of the consequences, it's simply part of our nature. The Thing, because it isn't really human and lacks fillings, instead just figures it's pointless to argue. To me, that's a very subtle clue for first time viewers that Edvard is the Thing while everyone else is human.
Or its movie, how could alien copy human brain and self
That is a good and subtle clue. It didn't dawn on me until after the fact there was a tell
Nice one
What's funny is how it plays out in the movie. Here: The Thing may be intelligent but it lacks something that a human does not: Human Emotion. It hasn't learned how a human behaves emotionally when their life is threatened. It doesn't provoke her because it knows she's right and any pushing or confrontation could prove a fatal move for it, so it just accepts that fighting is pointless(since it didn't work for anybody that 'failed' before it).
Later, however, it learns the human emotion. When she catches the glimpse of Carter's ear and suspects something: It realizes she swindled it again. Only this time, it's learned how humans behave. So it pleads and begs for it's life.
Interesting full circle in the movie that it learned how to plead for it's life between now and the Carter confrontation later.
Nah.
I do like the potential false positive with this scene, the idea that even though they didnt have any fillings, they could still be human and they couldve been wrongly killed. That wouldve wouldve differentiated the film from the original, where it instead followed the original beat for beat, the red herring transformation, the self defence kill ect. It wouldve created a real sense of paranoia thoughout the film if it did its own thing. Even then its a shame that this all happened in the last 30 mins of the movie when the was so much downtime earlier on. They shouldve cut the 10 min alien ship part out and instead had this confrontation there at the arctic base.
I also like this ambiguity that this method did not prove that they are Things clearly. As we find out later, three of them were still human at this point. I was wondering how the movie would actually develop if Lars and Jonas brought the pilots from the tool shed. Carter would be proven human thanks the earring, we don't know if Derek would have fillings. I would be curious what would be the next course of action after checking the fillings.
All of this wouldve been a better experience since its not just them fighting the thing, but amongst themselves as well. The film shouldve had this scene happen around the 40 min mark, rather than so late into the film, where they quickly kill off like 6 characters in 6 mins.
The scene in the recreation room was quite dramatic and so, but I agree, after this scene there remained only three main characters (Colin did not play a role after this point as well until the same end although I like how his fate is incorporated into the events of the previous movie). it would be interesting to see them fight among themselves when they did not know with certainty who is the Thing. Contrary to the original movie there were less paranoia, the pieces were great - the big argument seconds before breaking in Carter and Derek (I had a feeling for a moment that Peder will burn them all only for having peace), but I wish more. I like the character of Colin for this - he brought the atmosphere of paranoia the most into the prequel as he distrusted and blamed all around him from the infection, similarly as Palmer in the original - but he was human all the time. Also this ambiguity could create arguments among the proven human as well - for example Peder could want to burn the suspected immediately with Kate against who wants to find another way (the rest is divided among these options)
u missed the point of the entire series.
the thing in the first one.. was literally at deaths door.. and its action were literally fighting to regain its strenght... also its very tiring to transform and eat people...
in the original movie... it learned from its mistakes..
then in the comics it was clearly learning very very well from past events..
What stops the thing from mimicking a substance to look like fillings, and how would it mimic cavity spaces or even the shape of enamel, or scars? It either copies information from your DNA or from what is presently there, if its the latter it would not fix cavities.
Ironic how the British guy has perfect teeth.
Statistically accurate.
LOL
Not ironic we have better teeth than yanks
British people can have nice teeth too! - said an American!
Are you from British?
Damn, Lars was so badass!
What even happened to him when the Americans pulled him inside, between then and the end when he's revealed to be one of the two Norwegians in the chopper chasing the dog.
@@njc84 i think he got locked up and hid there.
@@njc84 Yeah he got locked up but then got free found a rifle and hoped on a helicopter and and chased down an infected dog at the end
@@AntonioMartinez-gv4ng and the rest is history...
I swear Lars act‘s in this Movie like he waited his entire Life for this moment :D His so badass! The McReady of the Norwegians!
This is the best scene/development to come from this prequel, IMHO.
This is a good process of elimination. The theory about having fillings proves you're human since the thing can't replicate that. I'm glad that this movie did its own thing instead of doing the blood sample-- it was tense but necessary.
Although it wasn't perfect and only proved half the team. I see that this was a good way to know who's bullshitting.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
I wished they kept what the director wanted it to be, an homage to the thing with using practically effects and only using cgi as a tool than a need
It at least eliminated some of them as possible things and separated the "suspected" until they could figure out another method to fully prove or disprove that they are things or not
@@SamDeMonic If the director couldn't make the film an homage to the original via the script/direction (the original tense and paranoid, the 'prequel' a schlocky action film) why would the effects matter? The first kill in the original was offscreen and hinted at via a shadow. The first kill in the prequel a giant horrific CGI monster rips a red-shirt apart.
You can't do an homage to a thing you don't understand.
ProjectGibix “i’m glad this movie did it’s own thing instead of copying the older one”
But i...it didn’t? It’s the same setup, Like this is the blood sample scene just with less clear results, It’s not new at all.
I don’t fully hate it btw but to say it did it’s own thing is really stretching it.
In this scene, you can see how vulnerable they all are. When Kate said "right now its at least something", that was poignant--and realistic. And after what they had all just seen with their own eyes, they knew that this was for real!
"The Thing" is actually in my opinion the most terrifying of any horror creature. The concept of something that can assimilate you into its being and replicate you to 99.9% accuracy down to almost everything but long term memory is so horrifying. If you didn't know, you'd never know until you finally became the victim. It isn't malicious either. It doesn't have any sort of evil plot (besides an instinctual drive to expand). It isn't evil, it's just an animal with the capacity for higher knowledge and function. So much mimicable intelligence with no concept of morality is horrific.
that and the T1000.
@@BoxxyFan what does that mean?
You speak with forked tongue...
Stop trying to impress with cockamaimie verbiage. You use the term victim, then say it isn't malicious or evil. If it's so harmless as you suggest, then there can't be any victimization....try and make sense when you talk.
Actually, we don't know. It's motives are never explained or shown. It is possible that it was scared and simply trying to survive, then escape. Every interaction it's had with humans ended in violence, so there is a chance that by _talking_ to it we might be able to reach an agreement that preserves both species. "Here, build your ship and we'll let you go, but if you continue to attack humans or try to move to a populated area we'll kill you"
@@ARK8844 theyre mad that if they take lsd they ends up in the psych ward cause they are a bitch with no control of their ego. many such cases
I wish the whole movie was in Norwegian with english subtitles. Not only would it have been more accurate, but it would have been another aspect that would set it apart from its predecessor.
Whoa I agree!
But that would distract way too much from the movie, reading subtitles all the time. They could have just pretended/implied they're all speaking norwegian though. I mean, in other languages, it's also dubbed and it doesn't make sense that they're not speaking English, but it doesn't distract from the plot since it's done simply to make it watchable.
@@maxonite Why would it take you that long to read subtitles? Most of my friends can read a full line with a quick glance.
A lot of Norwegian men in America or in Norway know English or at the very least understand basic English phrases. So there isn't usually a language barrier between an American and a Norwegian. The only character in this movie that doesn't speak any English is Lars.
Technically it's successor
Kind of crazy tho on how out of everyone in that room only one person was the alien and everyone else was completely legit, well till the end
“I’m gonna die because I floss?” Lol
That female actress is SO PRETTY
MARY Elizabeth Winstead
Mary Elizabeth Winstead. You perv
Iver Kjelløkken dont talk bad about her I love her
@@nsphoenix6660286 Don't worry. I'm not bad about "her"
@@jonathanworden4609 she also plays Lucy McClane in Live Free or Die Hard and A Good Day to Die Hard.
This movie is 11 years old? Wtf?!? It's literally terrifying how fast time moves when you get old.
After 20 the time flies very fast.
The "original" is now 42 years old
Ok so. I haven't seen this movie or watched this clip yet but... something tells me it's a terrible idea to look into the mouth of what might be a Thing. Amarite?
Yeah, I feel like they shouldve gone with what the 1982 version did, mix human blood with potential thing blood. Mabye, it wouldve explained why the Thing in the 1982 movie thought to spill the blood, then again, the Things is really cunning so I don't know
@@tastefullythick7072 I know that u said u don't actually know but in that movie their initial idea was to do that test (mix their blood 1 by 1 with the thing blood to get a reaction) but somebody burned their lab with the blood samples in it so this test is actually a back up plan.
it was a flawed alternative but hey better than nothing (also better than copying the blood test from the original)
Maybe but any possible things have 2 flamethrowers aimed right at it, ready to torch it the moment it makes any violent reaction. Even the thing knows its fucked if it exposes itself like this
@Brent Taylor Art: That's what makes this scene intense... especially after having seen Kate's narrow escape earlier!
Adam: So I'm getting killed cause I floss
Kate: No one's getting killed
(Kills Adam 30 minutes later)
😂😂😂
It’s scary when stupid people take charge. Plot twist her next test requires you to have rotten flesh and nails and a pacemaker.
@Soviet ツ yea
Him and Jonas they literally just letted them die
@@Nomi_MirXacuz of the flamethrower malfunctioning
@@Nomi_MirXaTo be fair he would have already been infected/assimilated from when he was impaled by that tentacle, anyways.
I thought this was a really good alternative to the blood test. Very good scene.
okay, now we know everybody has bad teeths
I really like Kate and Macready making cleaver ways To identify who’s a thing and who’s human. Shows they’re very smart horror movie heroes. It may seem lame compared to the blood test, but I like the idea of the thing copying everything except any inorganic parts they’re victim had before assimilating into them
*clever. *their.
@@markfox1545 They are/they're very smart is the correct form, not their very smart, dummy. Don't be the ass who corrects people when you're wrong yourself.
2:40 by the way, if you listen carefully to the music, you can hear part of the main theme of The Thing, which may have hinted that Sanders was the Thing.
Well, it's just my theory, but it would be great if that's the case.
Sander Halveston wasn't a thing at this point in the movie yet, but props for your attention to detail
She's clever he says.
The thing replies only "yeah".
But look at the expression on his face and his eye movements. It clearly shows that the thing did not understand how to respond so it just said "yeah".
He speaks Norwegian in a later scene though.
Misek Limbu no the thing says "she's clever"
it's the thing who say that
Wtf? The thing says "she is clever" the guy that says yes is human in this scene
No, you got it mixed up. Edvard, the guy who said "She's clever," was the thing, while Sander was human. Either way, why would the thing only understand english, and not norwegian?
This was one of the best scenes-it stired the emotions. It was intense, and I got angry at a couple of those people too stubborn to open his mouth. And as we now know, the real Edvard was by this time dead. So no wonder the immitation wouldn't open its mouth-would Kate have observed holes, and no fillings? If Edvard had fillings, then that is precisely what Kate would see...
wow that adds another layer to it that i didn't realize. the thing could have truly been thinking 3 steps ahead. chances are that kate has no idea whether or not real edvard had fillings, but conceded submission to her test anyway rather than face it and fail, just in case
I contend that Evard must have had fillings. At some point he was killed and immitated, and his immitation had to spit out the fillings-just like Juliette's immigration did. Kate found Juliette's fillings on the bathroom floor, as well as her blood all over the showr. But Kate had no idea who that material belonged to-only finding that stuff confirmed her worst fears-and knew now that she had to flag down that chopper! Kate knew at this point that whatever they had found was dangerous, as did the others because of what happened to Hendrik, but Kate was sure at this point that this thing might actually be imitating humans! She tried to sound the alarm, but everything was going south fast. But back to Edvard, when they were checking fillings, in hind sight we know that what was looking back at Kate when she demanded Edvard open his mouth was not a human-it was some kind of hideous monster that was plotting against them. So Edvard must have had fillings, because this thing imitating him spit those out, and knew that Kate would see empty holes where fillings should be!
The thing cannot just replicate, but also create/shift organic matter (in this case teeth). We know this because of its ability to transform itself; it’s a shapeshifter. So if it wants to, it can simply fill in the space left by the fillings. It just can’t create the fillings themselves. So no, it wouldn’t have mattered
@Video Guy: The narrative of this movie is about a group of scientists that found something astounding--a visitor from another world, along with the ship that it evidentally came in. When it turned out to be alive, all they knew for sure was that it would try to kill them. But we the audience know absolutely nothing about the alien except that during a hasty observation under a microscope made by Kate and Adam, Kate voices the concern that the visitor may be replicating Hendrick. Kate now has misgivings that anyone should leave the camp, but even she is having trouble believing what she had seen herself with the microscope--until she finds in the washroom someone's tooth fillings and then blood all over the shower floor and walls. Kate's worst fears hit her all at once because now she's certain that someone else among them has been killed and replicated by a monster from space. However, the tooth fillings left behind indicate to Kate that whatever this thing can do, it cannot copy inorganic matter like tooth fillings. So it has a vulnerability--a way that it can be discovered, however perfectly that it can copy it's victim. By the scene in this clip, Edvard, as we will find out shortly, was deceased. He must have been attacked somewhere in the camp prior to this by one of those things. Kate knew that she had a way to verify that at least some of them were human because of what she had found in the washroom earlier--the tooth fillings. Now, if Edvard had clean teeth in life, then this thing masquerading as him here would have nothing to worry about by opening its mouth to let Kate have a look inside. It would still have to join the non-vetted group because fillings in someone's teeth are the only way to verify absolutely that someone is human with this test. But...if living Edvard had fillings, then the thing imitating him now would have copied/replicated all of Edvard's tissues, hair, bone, and teeth--including those teeth that have unfilled cavities in them. But it cannot copy fillings! That is probably what this monster did not want Kate to see because if she saw teeth that were rebuilt by a dentist--but without fillings--this would fill Kate with alarm, and she may well have signaled Peter and Lars to close in quick with their flamethrowers. Earlier I said "probably" because the film was leaving a lot of stuff to the audience to guess at. They didn't want to explain in detail everything in the story, as that would kill the intensity. They were trying to make an intense shocker with this film, and I appreciated that the cast took the material seriously. I think that they did a splendid job of transporting us, the audience, with this horror picture!
I like the fact that this test does work but is much more flawed than the blood test. It makes sense the first people to encounter this thing would have not perfectly designed a foolproof test, but that they clearly understood some of what the creature was capable of
The unnerving part of this scene is that the human being imitated is deceased , killed and assimilated off screen . Kate and the others who are still alive know that one or more of them could be one of those things , so when she holds the flashlight up to see into someone’s mouth , what may be looking back at her could be an implacable monster from another world that is plotting against them .
Boy, I'd be in trouble when it comes to this test, considering my fillings are plaster...you wouldn't know the difference.
Mary Winstead in her every film acts as an intelligent, adaptive, strong woman! I love her ❤❤❤
Notice how they are all noticing each other and stand away from each other but the Thing is different, it stands right in the middle of them all, right up close.
Good catch didn't notice at first viewing
Lars is the loyal comrade everyone should have. As far as prequels go, I actually enjoyed this movie.
Lars is like Mccready and I.
Lars, even though he only speaks his native Norwegian, does not have communication problems when talking to Kate.
I always wondered when and who assimilated Edvard. It was either Griggs or Juliette. Edvard must be also the one who sabotaged the blood test.
My theory, Griggs infected Juliette during the autopsy, at some point before Edvard sees the helicopter crash, she infected him.
Kind of guessing it may have been during the autopsy, like he touched something he shouldn’t have or looked to closely (he explicitly found it ‘fascinating’) and accidentally infected himself.
Griggs was murdered when searching for alcohol. Juliette was murdered when she was bawling. Edvard was murdered in the bathroom probably by Griggs.
Keep in mind before any human was killed by the thing the dog was assimilated and hid until the end of the movie........ just one more possibility.
There is a great tension here.Everyone is scared of being a thing, because they may not even know themselves.Every time they open their mouth it’s reluctantly in fear of them having being infected.When Edvard turn comes, he doesn’t speak, protest, he just stands there.A sign he is the thing, as he acts too calm and too robotic, and when he does speak he sounds far too perceptive, which is why I think the other doctor seems to hesitate, because his friend is acting too odd.
That would be too easy, and too silly, if they had it so that the people in this movie could "catch" this by contact. This movie worked for me because the Thing must wait for an opportune time before it decides to revert back to its true self, preparing to attack a new victim. But it cannot complete such a transformation instantaneously, and this is perhaps where it is most vulnerable. Its greatest asset is being able to hide amongst these people--to mingle. But when it decides to make its move, it goes all in, and as we saw what happened in the helicopter--or when the thing imitating Juliet reverted and tried to kill Kate--the transformations are disturbing. But this creature may be forced to transform at a bad time--the Griggs thing in the chopper may have guessed that the humans learned something, and that they were onto it. Maybe Kate, or someone else, found blood soaked clothes that belonged to Griggs--the movie didn't tell us. So back to the scene in the room where Kate demanded to see everyone's tooth fillings in order to rule out at least some of them, anyone who was human of course knows that--and the monster of course knows what it is. That's what made this scene nerve wracking--Kate had no way to know for sure that a hideous monster was regarding her through the now deceased Edvard's eyes as she held the flashlight up to see into his mouth.
@@johnishikawa2200 very well put, your explanation made my skin crawl. 😮
@Joe the King Hawk : Thanks ! This film was trying for something realistic here. They were trying to make an intense shocker , for mature audiences. And the movie was sprinkled with clever clues, some subtle, and others not so subtle, in order to give us a heads up as to what could be happening. All in all, I liked the movie, although I thought that they could have made it more intense, and maybe just a little bit longer. This film was barely 1 hour and twenty minutes long. I think that it should have been maybe ten minutes longer.
@@johnishikawa2200 great point
I got fillings! so I can't be the thing!
David Cabral that could be tin-foil you snagged from the mess hall while we weren’t looking!
(Lifts flamethrower)
HANDS UP!
thats what the thing would say... u learned from ur past failure.. like with the blood test in the comics... "fooled me once.. NOT THIS TIME" lmao
Not exactly cos in the earlier scene before the chopper crash, the thing spat out those tooth fillings in the bathroom cos it couldn’t copy them. Kate explained that after the crash.
She should have checked if they’re circumcised as well.
1:42 Did the guy with the flamethrower just call Adam a weasel😂😂😂
The fillings was a good elimination tactic , just put everyone in the question mark category on quarantine until you can find another further elimination tool
It would’ve been cool if they used blood samples from everybody to test who the thing like they were planning to before the thing destroyed the blood bags. This would’ve explained how the thing knew it had to destroy the blood samples
Yeah that would be a cool thing to see
I like this better, they threw out the idea of a blod test earlier, so The Thing knows its a viable test, while also giving us a scene a bit different from the first movie.
I think that although The Thing can mimic the look of normal blood, it will be doing some strange things under a microscope.
How can you 38 people give this a thumbs down you must be the THING!
These are people who don't appreciate great sci-fi horror! They must be Justin Bieber fans.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@paulkane7771 this is a terrible movie. There's not many redeeming qualities about it, nothing that made the original The Thing good is present here.
@@charlehpock I'm not sure what you're smoking, but this is NOT a terrible movie by any standards. Sure, it may not be a classic like Carpenter's version, but it's a great sci-fi movie with a creeepy atmosphere, solid acting, and many tense moments.
@@paulkane7771 if you think this movie is reasonable or good, then you don't understand what makes a good movie.
It got a 6.2/10 on IMDB... that's after 142k reviews... that's not a good movie or even an average one. The average is 6.8. That's OBJECTIVELY a below average movie in the opinions of 142k people.
It's poorly executed, tries too hard to link with the original without being smart about how it does so, makes most of the characters out to be stupid, makes a mockery of the special effects, has cliché jump scare moments, barely has any of the tension of the original, shows way too much of the creature therefore making it not scary or sinister at all. I could go on.
The movie is just weak.
I think it's better movie than it gets Credit for, and Liz steals the show for sure.
I just wonder the level of intelligence the thing has reached over the thousands of assimilation’s it’s done across the cosmos. Just the subtle “she’s clever” is the thing recognizing it has a challenge in front of it one on the intellectual and wit level close to its own maybe
A very good prequel to the John Carpenter movie rendition. And the helicopter scene that starts his movie off will be better understood.
No it's not. It's a terrible movie and doesn't even hold a candle to the original in any way.
If this had been a standalone film with no previous incarnation, it might have been OK, but given that we have no choice to compare it to the original, it's more of an insult to the intelligence of original film and the audience than anything.
This test isn't as effective as the blood test devised by RJ MacReady in the original 1982 movie. It's effective as far as proving if someone's human, but it isn't effective in the sense of exposing an imitation. Because the only individual that was actually an imitation during this was Edvard. Notice how he didn't even open his mouth, he just moved over to the Suspect group that either had clean teeth, porcelain fillings or were missing their fillings altogether?
the blood is NOT EFFECTIVE... IT ONLY WORKED ONCE.. because the thing never experience that before so id didnt know what to expect... the very next time we see the blood test again in the comics much later.. in south america outpost once they leave Antarctica... the thing itself starts the blood test.. it tests itself first in front of everyone.. and it passes the blood test... and it frames macready by making him fail the blood test...
@@InanisNihil The comics aren't necessarily considered canon to the movie- but the principle of of the blood test is that the Thing isn't intelligent enough to maintain its disguise when it is only a small amount of cells.
So the human-sized Palmer thing was intelligent enough to refrain from transforming when his finger was cut to have his blood drawn- but the small collection of Thing-cells in the petri dish posing as blood aren't intelligent enough to refrain from transforming when they encounter a hot needle, even though Palmer-thing knew what the test would entail when his blood was drawn.
Remember the movie was quite good. But I know it got alot of crap by comparing it to the "original" (1982 version). Of course they should have kept doing the effect practical than cdi. But it was the time everything was done like that. Atleast the actors doing a great work so just accept it and enjoy the movie.
While the movie wasn't bad, It was inferior to the Original in every aspect. They could have done so much more than what they did with the movie.
Feark I actually liked the movie.
Standards are not made by people just "accepting it". The bar must be set.
Cgi not cdi
The film actually was supposed to feature alot more practical effects. However, when they showed the film to the execs, they demanded that they use alot more CGI and change the ending (which is another story.) If you want to see what I am talking about, look up the Thing: pilot cut.
We saw with the introduction of Edvard's character in the film that he's a smoker . And smokers typically have bad teeth . So Kate would have seen tooth fillings in Edvards mouth , had he permitted her to look in . And then Edvard would have been vetted as human in this scene . But Edvard did not open his mouth to show his fillings to Kate . And for a very good reason . We will find out shortly that that's not Edvard . Edvard is dead by this scene here . He got picked off somewhere else in the camp , the attack not shown . But the thing imitating Edvard here had to spit out his tooth fillings because it could not replicate those . So this thing knows that it cannot let Kate see those replicated teeth without the fillings in them . That would give it away , and Kate would have immediately backed away from the monster and let Peder and Lars close in with their flamethrowers . Creepy when you think about it .
"Open your mouth!"
She's soooooo cuuuuteee!!
4:15 you can see the thing is pretty smart, he was the only one scanning his environment with his eyes showing full awareness.
3:41 - Edvard, already a Thing himself at this point, walks away.
I don't know why this movie had bad critics. I freakin love this movie. I hope they make more The Thing movies!
Did not realize they did a remake in 2011. Might check it out some time.
it's not a remake, it's a prequel
Very clever and original , introducing tooth fillings as a vulnerability of those things and that not having them could betray them .
*Crazy thing about this movie is nobody knew just how good Mary Elizabeth Winstead's buutt was*
You Sex maniac in the building!🤦🤣
this scene makes me open my mouth ..and look in the mirror 😂😂😂 i have fillings
They give a clue that Edvard is The Thing at 3:43. First two guys kept distance, third guy went to one side and Edvard went right in the middle which no sane human would do.
This scene was excellent because it added such a creepy realism that they now know how dangerous this enemy is . This one vulnerability of the visitor , that tooth fillings can betray it , really added to the intensity of the film .
The blood test was way better in the 1982.
Can't argue with that, but in theory this also proves who's human and who's infected. Didn't borrow the blood sampling and did its own thing which is great.
The Blood test make me calm, but this teeth test is making my nerves shake cause the thing might use its tongue to infect the girl
Now I'm in the mood to watch both movies again.
This movie scared me great remake
it's actually a prequel:) and yes i do agree with you
Really I didn’t know
Since it can't replicate fillings, it's got me thinking what would be the case if it assimilated somebody with a hip replacement or a pace maker? Would those things be discarded?
Yes because those are made of inorganic material like she said
0:50 when someone scans in front of you in med bay and gains your trust.
1:14 Hey its Tormund from GoT. Guess being a wildling is too lame, huh. He joined an arctic expedition team instead.
La he visto millones de veces y me sigue gustando un clásico, nunca pasará de moda.
Crees que fue una buena precuela? En lo personal fue buena, no tanto como la del 82, pero si tuvo sus momentos
This business about the tooth fillings was novel and excellent . The scene here was intense , and had the rest of the film been as good , why I believe that they woulda had themselves a real epic story here and a shocker of a horror picture .
Talk about a tension filled scene..... Solid movie
If only Lars would have learned to speak English then he could have warned Macready and the others at outpost 31 what the “dog” really was a lot faster
So, Lars needed a translator to tell him to open his mouth. But he didn't need one to explain to him why?
As much as this movie is bad, gotta appreciate that good alternative to the Blood Test from the original.
One of my favorite horror movie stories.
This reminds me of what MaCready says in the 1982 Thing when doing the blood test. The Thing isn't a hive mind organism, it's individual parts of a creature with a built in instinct to survive. As long as a piece of it survives all other "things" are disposable. Probably explains why the Thing/Carter didn't stop Kate from destroying Thing/Sanders.
This was a very circumstantial test. What if one simply didn't have fillings? This was just an excuse not to do the blood test🤣
Its not supposed to be a guarantee though? Its just a way to narrow down possible suspects and cause paranoia. And they pointed out that its circumstantial themselves with the joke (“I’m gonna get killed because I floss”). If I remember correctly the blood samples were sabotaged or something so they couldn’t do the blood test, and it wouldn’t be very original if they just did the blood test again. I still prefer the blood test from the first movie though
Did you even watch the scene? MEW says something along the lines of it’s not definitive but it’ll eliminate some of us. She determines this by seeing the fillings on the ground and by seeing the bloody shower cleaned up, that meant that one of the people left at the base was a thing. They also actually set up not doing the blood test. There was no way for any of the characters to determine that every piece of tissue from a Thing was it’s own organism, it assimilated a dog, infects a guy who then infects a different guy leaving a bloody mess in a shower stall exposes itself on the helicopter during which the thing still in the base cleans up the blood but not the fillings then sabotages the blood which prevents them doing the scientific blood test. There was no way for any of them to realize that all thing tissue are their own organisms that will respond to stimuli. There was no head crawling away to give Kate that idea. Of course the arm off the dead guy breaking off and attacking the guys face like a giant bug may have given someone that idea but by that point the entire station was chaos and everyone was mostly dead anyway.
If they had done the blood test, you'd be accusing the writers of not being able to come up with their own ideas.
Blood test was already done.
if youre in a death and life situation, just follow the one who kept you save orders
I wish we had a better view 0:45
Basically just recently eating food there looking for her teeth were dirty Basically
This film seems to get better as the years go by.
I’m in love with Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Sorry, I know I should be commenting on this scene but I can’t stop looking at her face.
The fillings from the bathroom might not be from julliete but from edvard. Thats why he chose not to open his mouth,cause kate would see the holes from his teeth.
Seems like it could just imitate a little grey bit of tooth and just say "I had them years ago they are not shiny anymore"
Imagine if The Thing couldn't assimilate the male appendage, she'd be awkward like
"Show me your ducks"
The test in itself is very clever, but the things little comment about her being clever is lore breaking. The thing never makes extraneous comments like that.
One of the good ideas for a scene they had in this film.
So dramatic over such a simple necessary test
If the suits kept their greedy hands off of this movie and let the director and the amazing cast do their work, including ALL practical effects, original ending ect, this could've been amazing.
But nooooooo.......
Well...tooth enamel is inorganic material.
Now yes, teeth as a whole are not completely inorganic. They are not tooth shaped blocks of inorganic enamel sitting in your mouth. There is a lot of living tissue in your teeth, yes. However: the "crowns" (the white top of a tooth that is visible) are composed of enamel which is around 96% minerals. Only the other 4% are water and organic material.
Also also this whole dental implant thing is illogical because when the thing assimilates someone, as long as the teeth and their fillings are intact, there is no reason for the thing to deal with them. Just assimilate all cells in the body and keep stuff like teeth and their fillings in their place.
LMAO GAME OF THRONES BIG MAN
THAT GUY WAS THE GAME OF THRONES BIG MAN WHO WAS BEYOND THE GREAT WALL
This is ridiculous. She shouldn't have let the two go without checking, because it is entirely possible that the original person had fillings, but the copies did not, meaning she could have seen large holes in the teeth where fillings would have been to identify them.
Has anyone pointed out that saying "She's clever" makes it clear that the Thing yadda yadda, blah blah? I'll do it if no one else will.
No way…😮
Seriously, that was so cringeworthy when I was scrolling through the comments
I'm glad this didn't sink her career.
imagine you get killed cause you took care of your teeth
Which one is the thing?
People say this movie is terrible but I don’t think it was that bad
I enjoyed it, and I have all 3 movies.
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There’s only 2 thing movies not 3
@@davidgarrido5506 Wrong. The first movie was made in 1951 starring James Arness as "The Thing from Another World"
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That doesn’t count because it wasn’t a proper adaptation of who goes there that honor goes to John carpenter’s 1982 version
@@davidgarrido5506 Do you realize how stupid you sound?
Among Us brought me back here lol
The one time having cavities is a good thing
My opinions about this movie are mixed, but I'll say this: I LOVED Mary Elizabeth Winstead in this movie.
Agree. He intensity was great once it was game on.
4:33 the doctor didn't understand what the other doctor was saying when she called called her clever. That's why he responded with a "yeah" instead of replying back in Norwegian. But in they both a full convo during the beginning scene. It shows he was the thing the whole time during the crash.
No I think you got them mixed up, Edvard is a thing, and HE was the one who called her clever. Also why would the alien know english but not Norwegian?
if the thing assimilates a norwegian it should know norwegian
@@sokol9263 because bad writing
Why couldn't the Thing change the color of each tooth that had fillings to match those colors that we would see in the real world? They can do everything else to make their bodies look real. I'm not saying it has to create the metal it only has to reproduce the "look" of the filling.
Interesting thought.