I think from SVG view point he had to do something. He has to let the guys know he not going to be bullied. I bet people think twice about giving him a shove next time.
@@TassyDeval He runs into every car he comes up to if they don't move over for him. But it won't stay at that. It will continue to get more intense until NASCAR steps in. Until then, most of the drivers will adopt SVG's style because they will have to. NASCAR is only concerned about money, not good racing.
@@x-man5056I think every bump he's done has been a nudge to move out the way. In supercars, it's so much more even that the only way to stop a procession of cars is to be a little dirty. He always did it in a racing sense and didn't take people out often. He just out drove them and people got mad
That's a "I drive for Richard Childress" thing! It's baked into ALL of them and the proof is all amongst us although some people don't remember heros doing any wrong "back in the day." Cough, E, cough Harvick cough "Richard" Skinner, and the real mind blower Austic Dillion the new face of the compound.😅
Kirk Shelmerdine said something to the effect of: If Dale was driving the conversion van to the Piggly Wiggly and wrecked into a parked car, we would whip ole boy for parking in our way. I'm against it but can at least appreciate the honesty GREATLY!
He said SVG braked earlier… He’s a late braker, unlikely. Hill knew what he was doing but tried to blame SVG… Coming off a restart, tyre temps are down, brake temps are down. You’re usually going to be a little more tentative understandably but the guy behind decides to help you run wide. SVG and AJ were a class above all day.
The Nascar boys are going to learn real quick that SVG will race you exactly how you race him. He's very clean.....until you rough him up.....then you're going to get it back double fold!
The thing is, everybody knows that SVG was the best driver on the day in that race, and he was driving away from everybody until those stupid cautions happened. We then watched Hill drive SVG so far past the corner he ended up off the track. SVG had to then Pay him back so that people knew that they couldn’t get away with that crap. It’s just disappointing that after all of that he loses an awesome days work and a good result because of a ridiculous rule by NASCAR, just because he slid across the corner by maybe 2 inches while following hill, trying to get the position back. It makes no sense. SVG should have won that race and most people know it.
Yet, Larson got tires and made his way back to the front. No matter how good SVG was all day, his team didn't take tires, and he was out-strategied and out-driven by Larson and their team. I love SVG and his story and his skill. He got straight up beat and dumped.
I like the "strike" rule or "warning" rulle. You get 1 warning or strike, then you get a 5 sec penalty each time after that. They hold you during a green pit stop, penalize you at the end of the race or if it happens in the final laps of a stage, you get moved back those 5 seconds in the running roder, behind the cars that would be ahead as a result (before pit stops). A drive thru or 30 secs is just way too much for missing a mark by 2 inches.
The V8 Supercar series has a curb strike rule where drivers get 5 strikes before a 15sec penalty is applied. I think Nascar should implement the same but maybe give drivers 2 or three only. It's not perfect as drivers save them up until the last laps and then straight line where they can but better than a no warning PLP or 30 second end of race penalty which doesn't fit the crime. If there is one thing the established drivers have learned this weekend is that you don't try and rough up SVG as he will return back with interest! Loving SVG's move to Nascar. As a Kiwi I have never watched so much Nascar or listened to so many podcasts. This is way better than the coverage we get with Supercars on our part of the world.
The penalty was quite severe at 30 seconds . For a repeat offender yes, but not for a single infringement on a restart. SvG will take it on the chin and concentrate on his next race .
Would be a shame for some foreigner to come in and show up all the good old American boys. Stares at the crowds chanting "usa". Really got me thinking, totally no nationalistic bias from the officials.
It was just SVG saying “ don’t mess with me as I will stick up for myself” These are hard core and if you don’t stick up for yourself then you will be bullied everywhere. SVG has got them worried and so they should be..
Same. Haven't watched any Nascar at all for years but now Shane's there I've watched every Xfinity and Cup race. In fact, Supercars were racing this weekend and I couldn't be bothered paying the twenty bucks to watch it on Sky. Am enjoying the Nascar format. And it's every weekend!
@@michaelcrane2475 Yep. Knowing how Shane just gets it right no matter what he does, I'd probably watch him play marbles. In fact, you could probably get half the world to watch potato sack races if they entered Shane.
He’s a breathe of fresh air. I’m a longtime Nascar fan, early ‘90’s when I was a kid, and have seen many “roadcourse ringers” come in and everyone oohed and ahed and they generally didn’t run too well, always messed something up. SVG won Chicago, having never run there or the car. I was sold then
@@wyo_garage20 Shane has incredible ability that keeps on growing. Thugs in control towers & in other cars will attack him. He'll find a way to drive around all of that. He really is wholesome entertainment.
Austin provokes it, then gets it given back in kind, then tries to right rear him down the straightaway at the end of the race. guy is an absolute clown
It was lazy. Shane was taking the corner at the correct speed and line. Hill didn't, he went in way too fast and bounced off Shane. If SVG wasn't there Hill would have spun out going as fast as he was into the corner.
Being Australian what blew me away was how far are youse can go out of track limits if the race was kept in within the limits shame would’ve won that by half a lap
One thing that Supercars has are sensors in the track and transponders underneath the cars. When a car exceeds track limits, Race Control is notified immediately of the breach and when all chances have been used up a penalty is then applied.
SVG maybe new, he may be learning Nascar, but not racing. He may be polite in interviews, but he is no motor racing rookie. He is used to the argy bargy of Supercars and of LeMans. He is used to the aggression. You can earn a living staying near the back of the Nascar field, not in Supercars. He has been a ruthless competitor for 20 years. He's not naive. And he does not take prisoners. To him, coming second is to be the first of the losers. He did not get the nickname The Spider for nothing. This is the difference between a New Zealander and an Australian. A NZ'er has to always prove he deserves the win, whether its rugby or motor racing. It's the small country syndrome. It's not the Dale Earnhardt type of aggression. Its the "don't mess with me or you are my target", kind. It's the, "if you are slower than me then get out of my way" type of competitive behaviour.
There should’ve been something set up like at the Roval where drivers have a safe designated place to stop on the track to quickly take a minor penalty A 5 to 10 second stop and go penalty rather than the 30 second trip down pit road
Got to say as a motorsport fan watching Nascar and Xfinity is very frustrating, with all the contact and track limit stuff. Using the run off areas as part of the track is just crazy, stick to the track, it's pretty easy. And yellow resets just to let slow cars catch up? Is this racing...
Mate, 'The GIZ' told Y'all in his post race interview. He said, and I quote ' We were both going for the same piece of Real Estate ' There it is Fella! Cheers from New Zealand Bro Go The GIZ
I always find it funny when these "rough & tough" and "blue collar" guys get just as whiny and petty as the "new generation" they and their fans hate so much 😂
Considering COTA is a F1 track (literally was made for F1), seeing what FIA is now asking from Red Bull Ring, asking to change the asphalt runoff to gravel would be great for COTA as well. Actually every single track should have like 1.5 metre width kerbs instead of the current ones and then straight after have either gravel or grass. That way it's self policing and no need for track limit penalties
i was at this race Saturday. SVG had that race won. Austin Hill did much more than "move him". He is known for brake checking people and getting away with it. I would've been pissed off too. Although he's not wrong, i cant take Denny Hamlin seriously on this subject. He does the same exact thing Austin Hill did on Saturday.
I think it's more about gaining an advantage for a bump in SC's, it happens but, if it's a deliberate shove that pushes a car out of the way for that advatage that would be a penalty that had to be redressed on track, (give the postion back) or get a penalty. Side note SVG is not afraid to give as good as he gets. AU
“Bump and Run” in Supercars is not allowed. Pass clean, without contact. Basically, if you don’t earn the spot, give the spot back or you’ll be forced to give it back. A prime example would be Bathurst 2016. SVG’s teammate Jamie Whincup hit Scott McLaughlin off, continued to race, gained a penalty, Crossed the line first, but the second car, number 19 Won.
Yes common sense. I know Chase Elliott lost the rear of the car going thru the esses, straightened her up but obviously straight lines the chicane. No way he gained time doing that.... still got a penalty
hill has skills, its the chip on his shoulder that turns off most fans.if hill makes it to cup in the 3 car, i look for hill & busch to have MANY disagreements in the future.kyle wont take hills crap moves.could you imagine if he raced kyle like he did sheldon creed?
Big difference between racing a mid-tier driver in a mid-tier series and being anywhere near at top-tier driver in the top-tier series. Kyle Busch won't have to worry about Austin Hill in the 3. They won't be anywhere near each other, and if Austin Hill races like that for 25th, Kyle Busch won't be the only one he'll have to worry about. He has to get past the rolling roadblock Carson Hocevar first.
In Aussie at circuits like Surfers Paradise where we have rumble stripped chicanes, the rule is minimum of two tyres on the black stuff at all times. Sensible. Allows the driver to utilise the strips but still stay on the racetrack. COTA is a farce in my opinion. The racing surface should be where the cars are forced to race. On a walled street circuit they stay on the race surface by simply driving to the conditions to do so. At this elite level it shouldn't be a problem.
Track limits: There are different cases that should be handled differently. In the case where driver A forces driver B to go off-course, it seems to me that driver A should be penalized, not driver B. Yes/No?
To me they should’ve made a joker lane through the outside of the corners to where you have a penalty but all it does it penalize you a little bit of time rather than 30 seconds.
I like the fact that once SVG got served up. That he gave one back straight away. He needs to stand his ground now and make it known that he's not going to be bullied. Or he's going to get roughed up every week. As for the penalty, I guess that Nascar were consistent and dished out the same to everyone. It just sucks thats all. Earlier on you can maybe come back to the front. But That late in the race, youre just screwed. 30 seconds is like being hung for a parking ticket. Also I dont understand why a driver can cut some corners and not others. Could someone explain that please.
I think Shane was putting a little understanding out there in the open with Hill. Punch me? expect to get punched back. Hill was whooped and he knew it - options? be a dick and see what happens. He saw what happens if you dick off to SVG who's done nothing but race you clean all day ~ Like Shane said "Talk about? I guess, don't know what there is to talk about" ~ Austin would agree. I would think less of SVG if he hadn't knocked him on his ass. You were BEAT Austin! and you know it!
AJ pushed SVG wide so he could get past, SVG pushed AJ wide to get his place back. In V8 Supercars AJ would have had to redress the position or cop a penalty. Running each other off the track is why the rest of the world doesn't watch NASCAR. Yes the track limits are stupid, and again the only place it happens is NASCAR. Use the centre of the car over the white line on the corners, I'm not talking about the run off areas, but you shouldn't be using run off areas as acceleration areas. What's the point of having a track if you don't have to drive on it.
@@Vivid-197 As I said, there is a reason why the rest of the world doesn't watch NASCAR, and since viewer numbers are dwindling in the States as well, wouldn't it be better to encourage as many people as possible to start watching. I made a suggestion with something that may be a possible improvement, maybe, maybe not, but you could have at least encouraged a discussion or a debate on why you prefer to have drivers using bash and crash techniques over drivers using skills and race craft to get the best lap times out of their cars.
@@Vivid-197 Yeah, don't worry I won't be watching it. In 45 years of watching motor racing of every kind that has any sort of mechanical propulsion in every sort of vehicle, vessel, and craft, I can sadly say I have never watched a full NASCAR or NASCAR derivative race. I thought this would be the era that finally changed my mind, but sadly, it is looking more likely that I won't watch it this time around either. Hopefully SVG will move across to Indy Cars where the real talent is because I would still like to watch him race.
I like the horse racing rule. You finish behind the horse you fouled. So if it’s just on place or six, ten or twenty spots you lose it’s still your fault you fouled. Last year we saw Bubba Wallace get a race suspension when he wasn’t even in the playoffs. That is ridiculous. Egregious penalties need to make folks remember the rules.
Me being a moron. Either have track limits or not. Why only track limits on parts of the track. Strike rule works. It give a bit of slack then tidies up your lines real quick.
SVG is the best of the BEST!!! full stop so putting him into your motorsport is the wise decision as you guys have sh**loads of money to play with and he wants ... innnnn!!
Seemed like Hill checked up a little when SVG hit him which made the hit a bit more severe, otherwise I think Hill would have been punted out of the way with that amount of force if his car was near the limit. T1 is always tricky on a tight turn like that. If you're way on the inside like that, you'll have to brake earlier than the rest simply because you're sacrificing a wider arc for track position. At T1, looked like Hill applied some pressure and it got paid back to him when he checked up later.
Austin already spun Chandler Smith by pushing the 8 car into Chandler. What goes around comes around. Maybe he should try to improve his passing skills. He certainly needs to own up to his actions instead of trying to blame others.
As an Austin Hill fan, my issue wasn't with the fact that SVG moved him out of the way, i completely understood why he did that, my issue was the fact that he did it so hard that his front end was caved in, AND he didn't even win the race
I’m pretty sure I’m in the minority here, but I thought this past race just looked super unprofessional. You guys don’t ignore track limits like y’all did this weekend when you race Sonoma or Watkins Glen. But for COTA everyone just ignores the lines and takes corners as wide as they want. It doesn’t look as bad as Phoenix does, but still just looks a little amateurish.
I think you yanks have no idea as yet what SVG is capable of and what is coming for you. That was just a very small taste of what SVG has in his kit bag. He will out think, out drive, out maneuver and psyche out his competition and then take wins and ultimately championships. It’s what he has done in every discipline he has competed in. Eastern Creek raceway, in a Supercar a few years back. Drying wet track. He is on overheating wets. Running down the main straight at nearly 300km/h putting the left hand tires on the grass one lap then the right hand tires on the grass the next, to keep them cool so he could win the race! He is a master and probably will be one of the greatest multi discipline drivers in history.
They should make the track be unforgiving if you cut the corner too much. You don't get a penalty, you hit a curb instead, which might inflict damage. Would make for some risks if you do it to much...
Much prefer Supercars where we have track limits on EVERY corner. It just made the NASCAR races look lazy and sloppy with cars being so far outside the delineated track…
the old adage of "don't start something you can't finish" springs to mind ........... SVG fights hard but fair.... but I'm a kiwi so probably as little biased 🤣
Shane is definitely a gentleman by NASCAR standards - even if he pushed the limits in Supercars from time to time :P But seriously, give him a bit more experience in NASCAR and he'll be exactly as menacing with the bumper as he wants/needs to be. Excited to see him here!
Austin Hill is always blameless. His actions toward Sheldon Creed last year, including applauding Sheldon's crew, were the work of an entitled brat, while his attitude toward SVG was that of a feral Karen. It's really too bad as he's a very good driver and will be in Cup soon. If he'd man up and quit acting like a spoiled child it would only help his career, but I'm not holding my breath waiting.
Hamlin didn't mind wrecking Chase Elliot for a win at Martinsville but threw a temper tantrum when someone did it to him and screwed up someone's victory celebration
Bathurst 1000, for example is 1000 kilometers of race, but the race course itself is actual roads that normal people drive on, on day to day deliveries coming in and leaving bathurst. this course also has Absolutely HUGE undulations and HUGE extra-vert-ad areas then with the weather also in situ. and traffic and tyre pressures its absolutely serious buisiness. Beyond The V8 supercar Bathurst i think the next biggest think would have to be the ISLE of MAN TT That is insane even though its on 2 wheels
He doesn't need to catch on, it's drivers like Hill that need too. In Supercars retaliation is a huge problem, because it's considered to be "ok" culturally. The series had to crack down on it just to stop people being put into the wall every race. Everyone is saying the penalty is harsh, but SVG is used to getting suspended for something like that. A penalty like that isn't a deterrent to a guy like SVG.
most series are underfunded hence the reason they have such strict rules and penalties for contact and then open wheel you cant bump bc your car will be destroyed. all the outsiders that want to just regulate nascar and make it like every other league just need to shut the hell up and watch those series if that is what you like.
As an Australia viewer, Austin hill needs to stay his own lane & Don’t ever mess with SVG! He’s has best resume in his racing career. A 3 time Supercars Champion & 3 time Bathurst 1000 winner! 🏆 & Austin will never become a nascar champion if he going to continue his dirty driving style!
lmao, austin is just like denny and KB were yrs ago. ok for them to wreck someone , but when they got wrecked they'd cry like 5 yr olds. remember denny . austin is a punk kid that has to just grow up like denny and kb. the worst cyr babies ever in nascar
Just saying watch the move in very slow motion and it appears Hill hit the brakes of missed a gear, anyways Hill should race with skill not argy bargy as you will always get one back just when you don't need it.
What also makes this worse is how we're constantly talking about track limits. I don't want to watch a race where half the talk is about track limits. It's part of why I lost interest in F1. Austria and the desert tracks are a misery to watch because that's half the discussion of the weekend. Fortunately, it's not as much of an issue in NASCAR because places like Watkins Glen and Sonoma exist. But there can be something like a no advantage rule or strike system. As much as I feel the coming to the stop rule is pretty overblown, it's not as bad. At COTA, there's also the penalty loop. Instead of a drive-through, running that would look less awful.
I think from SVG view point he had to do something. He has to let the guys know he not going to be bullied. I bet people think twice about giving him a shove next time.
Exactly
I’m new to nascar but am I wrong that the SVG vs Austin was the highlight of both races??
@@michaelbuettner1487Yeah but both were snoozers so that’s not saying much
Exactly
@@wyo_garage20 shit track some idiot created it
SVG is a very fair driver, but he won't be pushed around.
That’s the truth mate , very good mail
And the racing is faster in the Supercars. Been there. Done that. Lesson dealt.
Get real. SVG was taught by the master to be a dirty driver.
@@TassyDeval He runs into every car he comes up to if they don't move over for him. But it won't stay at that. It will continue to get more intense until NASCAR steps in. Until then, most of the drivers will adopt SVG's style because they will have to. NASCAR is only concerned about money, not good racing.
@@x-man5056I think every bump he's done has been a nudge to move out the way. In supercars, it's so much more even that the only way to stop a procession of cars is to be a little dirty. He always did it in a racing sense and didn't take people out often. He just out drove them and people got mad
Austin Hill is already known for brake checking people, I would say its a signature move of his dirty racing repertoire
that's exactly why svg hood buckled after he got into hill, he break checked him..
Not to mention Hill tried to hook SVG on the main straight on the way to the chequered flag, then sideswiped him after the finish… Hill is a B!TcH
Austin caused all the damage to svg’s car.
If Hill wants to fight dirty, SGV is up for it. This ain’t his first rodeo.
I can't stand Austin Hill ever since the Creed incident
The problem is, Austin is never in the wrong. Just ask him.
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That's a "I drive for Richard Childress" thing! It's baked into ALL of them and the proof is all amongst us although some people don't remember heros doing any wrong "back in the day." Cough, E, cough Harvick cough "Richard" Skinner, and the real mind blower Austic Dillion the new face of the compound.😅
@@LordBurgerTruth. They are one and the same, both hypocrites
Kirk Shelmerdine said something to the effect of: If Dale was driving the conversion van to the Piggly Wiggly and wrecked into a parked car, we would whip ole boy for parking in our way. I'm against it but can at least appreciate the honesty GREATLY!
He is arrogant!... look what he did to Sheldon!😡
He said SVG braked earlier…
He’s a late braker, unlikely.
Hill knew what he was doing but tried to blame SVG…
Coming off a restart, tyre temps are down, brake temps are down. You’re usually going to be a little more tentative understandably but the guy behind decides to help you run wide.
SVG and AJ were a class above all day.
Svg goes onto corners deeper than anyone with his technique. He would rarely pull up early .
The Nascar boys are going to learn real quick that SVG will race you exactly how you race him. He's very clean.....until you rough him up.....then you're going to get it back double fold!
The thing is, everybody knows that SVG was the best driver on the day in that race, and he was driving away from everybody until those stupid cautions happened. We then watched Hill drive SVG so far past the corner he ended up off the track. SVG had to then Pay him back so that people knew that they couldn’t get away with that crap. It’s just disappointing that after all of that he loses an awesome days work and a good result because of a ridiculous rule by NASCAR, just because he slid across the corner by maybe 2 inches while following hill, trying to get the position back. It makes no sense. SVG should have won that race and most people know it.
😂😂
No question. SVG's fastest lap was four tenths on the second fastest guy. Also had to defend multiple late restarts due to ouble overtime.
He was robbed!
SVG and AJ both were leading the pack all day
Yet, Larson got tires and made his way back to the front. No matter how good SVG was all day, his team didn't take tires, and he was out-strategied and out-driven by Larson and their team. I love SVG and his story and his skill. He got straight up beat and dumped.
I like the "strike" rule or "warning" rulle. You get 1 warning or strike, then you get a 5 sec penalty each time after that. They hold you during a green pit stop, penalize you at the end of the race or if it happens in the final laps of a stage, you get moved back those 5 seconds in the running roder, behind the cars that would be ahead as a result (before pit stops).
A drive thru or 30 secs is just way too much for missing a mark by 2 inches.
That sounds perfectly rational to me
The V8 Supercar series has a curb strike rule where drivers get 5 strikes before a 15sec penalty is applied. I think Nascar should implement the same but maybe give drivers 2 or three only. It's not perfect as drivers save them up until the last laps and then straight line where they can but better than a no warning PLP or 30 second end of race penalty which doesn't fit the crime. If there is one thing the established drivers have learned this weekend is that you don't try and rough up SVG as he will return back with interest! Loving SVG's move to Nascar. As a Kiwi I have never watched so much Nascar or listened to so many podcasts. This is way better than the coverage we get with Supercars on our part of the world.
Nascar drivers can't navigate around the curbs and finish so they eliminate stuff to hit. Real twink nerf the world crap!
The penalty was quite severe at 30 seconds . For a repeat offender yes, but not for a single infringement on a restart.
SvG will take it on the chin and concentrate on his next race .
Would be a shame for some foreigner to come in and show up all the good old American boys. Stares at the crowds chanting "usa". Really got me thinking, totally no nationalistic bias from the officials.
It was just SVG saying “ don’t mess with me as I will stick up for myself” These are hard core and if you don’t stick up for yourself then you will be bullied everywhere. SVG has got them worried and so they should be..
Bullying won't work on most kiwis and Aussies. it just makes them go harder
@@maxfish4770 Ken Oath! It's like "Yer wanna play? Bring it on C@#t!"
SVG had just led most of this race and a bum like Hill does that to you, what would you do?
100% correct mate.
I'd stay on the course lol 😅
SVG ran out of tyres by 5 laps to short but stayed afloat for 4 restarts
front bum?
Never watched an xfinity race until this season. Only watching for SVG.
Same. Haven't watched any Nascar at all for years but now Shane's there I've watched every Xfinity and Cup race. In fact, Supercars were racing this weekend and I couldn't be bothered paying the twenty bucks to watch it on Sky. Am enjoying the Nascar format. And it's every weekend!
@@michaelcrane2475
Yep. Knowing how Shane just gets it right no matter what he does, I'd probably watch him play marbles.
In fact, you could probably get half the world to watch potato sack races if they entered Shane.
He’s a breathe of fresh air. I’m a longtime Nascar fan, early ‘90’s when I was a kid, and have seen many “roadcourse ringers” come in and everyone oohed and ahed and they generally didn’t run too well, always messed something up. SVG won Chicago, having never run there or the car.
I was sold then
@@wyo_garage20
Shane has incredible ability that keeps on growing.
Thugs in control towers & in other cars will attack him. He'll find a way to drive around all of that. He really is wholesome entertainment.
@@johnbrooks9523. Good one mate 👊
SVG Didn't have a buckled hood till Austin brake checked him and he hit him the 2nd time.
Nascar doesn't' use common sense when making up their nonsense rules for the weekend...
Austin provokes it, then gets it given back in kind, then tries to right rear him down the straightaway at the end of the race. guy is an absolute clown
NASCAR is the Wrestling of the Motorsport world. As an Aussie fan, I like it and hate it but it sure is entertaining.
It was lazy. Shane was taking the corner at the correct speed and line. Hill didn't, he went in way too fast and bounced off Shane. If SVG wasn't there Hill would have spun out going as fast as he was into the corner.
Bruh idc thst Hill went in deep it was for a win. I'm mad he doesn't admit this and acts like its always someone else's fault.
@@falloutboy9424 I woulda had some respect for Hill if he'd just admit that
SVG has some mad ability here, he races clean, but can also race dirty if provoked, and normally comes out better off.
I’m glad SVG didn’t let him win the race.
Being Australian what blew me away was how far are youse can go out of track limits if the race was kept in within the limits shame would’ve won that by half a lap
Youse. Lmfao. Definitely an Aussie... 👍🏻
One thing that Supercars has are sensors in the track and transponders underneath the cars. When a car exceeds track limits, Race Control is notified immediately of the breach and when all chances have been used up a penalty is then applied.
Shane will love it, his bump and runs were more subtle in Australia
They had to be on account of how Supercars is and how you'd be penalised.
@@kevkoala 💯
Im surprised Andy Petree didnt go and yell at SVG.....
Or old man Childress have a meltdown and call Shane the dumbest son of a bitch in racing. Austin Hill is garbage along with Dick Childress
Yes in Supercars, Austin will be penalised for the move in the 1st corner, which in my opinion is right. It also prevents unnecessary contact.
SVG maybe new, he may be learning Nascar, but not racing. He may be polite in interviews, but he is no motor racing rookie. He is used to the argy bargy of Supercars and of LeMans. He is used to the aggression. You can earn a living staying near the back of the Nascar field, not in Supercars. He has been a ruthless competitor for 20 years. He's not naive. And he does not take prisoners. To him, coming second is to be the first of the losers. He did not get the nickname The Spider for nothing. This is the difference between a New Zealander and an Australian. A NZ'er has to always prove he deserves the win, whether its rugby or motor racing. It's the small country syndrome. It's not the Dale Earnhardt type of aggression. Its the "don't mess with me or you are my target", kind. It's the, "if you are slower than me then get out of my way" type of competitive behaviour.
Indeed ... SVG is world class ... On any race circuit ... In any car ... Never underestimate his abilities 🫡
SVG won’t take a backward step. His an ANZAC! 🇦🇺🇳🇿
Amen to that,
People need to look up ANZACs,and realise we don't back down
SVG, "you call that a rub? Naaaa, this is a rub..."
There should’ve been something set up like at the Roval where drivers have a safe designated place to stop on the track to quickly take a minor penalty
A 5 to 10 second stop and go penalty rather than the 30 second trip down pit road
Got to say as a motorsport fan watching Nascar and Xfinity is very frustrating, with all the contact and track limit stuff. Using the run off areas as part of the track is just crazy, stick to the track, it's pretty easy. And yellow resets just to let slow cars catch up? Is this racing...
It's nascar don't watch if you don't like it
@@Motorsport-club it died the day Dale died....
@@Motorsport-club Yes, it's NASCAR - i.e. trash, which is why the world doesn't watch it. It's a trash series for trash drivers and trash viewers.
Mate, 'The GIZ' told Y'all in his post race interview.
He said, and I quote
' We were both going for the same piece of Real Estate '
There it is Fella!
Cheers from New Zealand Bro
Go The GIZ
I always find it funny when these "rough & tough" and "blue collar" guys get just as whiny and petty as the "new generation" they and their fans hate so much 😂
To be fair, its only a few of them
Considering COTA is a F1 track (literally was made for F1), seeing what FIA is now asking from Red Bull Ring, asking to change the asphalt runoff to gravel would be great for COTA as well. Actually every single track should have like 1.5 metre width kerbs instead of the current ones and then straight after have either gravel or grass. That way it's self policing and no need for track limit penalties
Austin Hill doesn’t strike me as a brilliant thinker. Talented? Absolutely. Smart? Debatable. Highly debatable.
How to take svg out by brake checking him. Hill can't win a race on skill alone but poor sportmanship
i was at this race Saturday. SVG had that race won. Austin Hill did much more than "move him". He is known for brake checking people and getting away with it. I would've been pissed off too. Although he's not wrong, i cant take Denny Hamlin seriously on this subject. He does the same exact thing Austin Hill did on Saturday.
I think it's more about gaining an advantage for a bump in SC's, it happens but, if it's a deliberate shove that pushes a car out of the way for that advatage that would be a penalty that had to be redressed on track, (give the postion back) or get a penalty. Side note SVG is not afraid to give as good as he gets. AU
SVG is the Man the Myth and the Legend, he will go down in racing history as 1 of the best ever.
Gizzy FTW up you Merika !
“Bump and Run” in Supercars is not allowed. Pass clean, without contact. Basically, if you don’t earn the spot, give the spot back or you’ll be forced to give it back.
A prime example would be Bathurst 2016. SVG’s teammate Jamie Whincup hit Scott McLaughlin off, continued to race, gained a penalty, Crossed the line first, but the second car, number 19 Won.
SVG did redress the place he gained as a result of running into the back of Austin - and then retook the position fairly.
You all no we Oz is takin over ya motorsport podiums ey cowboys..we can roll with ya Hamlin punches n ya push to pass clank rules..we got you
Yes common sense. I know Chase Elliott lost the rear of the car going thru the esses, straightened her up but obviously straight lines the chicane. No way he gained time doing that.... still got a penalty
SVG is becoming one of my favorite drivers………….Denny is my favorite of course 👍🏼
Denny is awful
I hate that I’m starting to enjoy this show 😂
hill has skills, its the chip on his shoulder that turns off most fans.if hill makes it to cup in the 3 car, i look for hill & busch to have MANY disagreements in the future.kyle wont take hills crap moves.could you imagine if he raced kyle like he did sheldon creed?
Big difference between racing a mid-tier driver in a mid-tier series and being anywhere near at top-tier driver in the top-tier series. Kyle Busch won't have to worry about Austin Hill in the 3. They won't be anywhere near each other, and if Austin Hill races like that for 25th, Kyle Busch won't be the only one he'll have to worry about. He has to get past the rolling roadblock Carson Hocevar first.
If he ever makes it to cup he will get taught a lesson
In Aussie at circuits like Surfers Paradise where we have rumble stripped chicanes, the rule is minimum of two tyres on the black stuff at all times. Sensible. Allows the driver to utilise the strips but still stay on the racetrack. COTA is a farce in my opinion. The racing surface should be where the cars are forced to race. On a walled street circuit they stay on the race surface by simply driving to the conditions to do so. At this elite level it shouldn't be a problem.
Well, SVG has put EVERYBODY on notice that HE WON'T TOLERATE BULLSHIT...
Track limits: There are different cases that should be handled differently. In the case where driver A forces driver B to go off-course, it seems to me that driver A should be penalized, not driver B. Yes/No?
I loved it. SVG looking like a stock car driver now
To me they should’ve made a joker lane through the outside of the corners to where you have a penalty but all it does it penalize you a little bit of time rather than 30 seconds.
Denny your ankles need sun if your gonna wear funny pants but your viewpoint on Austin Mole Hill was on point!
I like the fact that once SVG got served up. That he gave one back straight away.
He needs to stand his ground now and make it known that he's not going to be bullied.
Or he's going to get roughed up every week.
As for the penalty, I guess that Nascar were consistent and dished out the same to everyone.
It just sucks thats all.
Earlier on you can maybe come back to the front. But That late in the race, youre just screwed.
30 seconds is like being hung for a parking ticket.
Also I dont understand why a driver can cut some corners and not others. Could someone explain that please.
I think Shane was putting a little understanding out there in the open with Hill. Punch me? expect to get punched back. Hill was whooped and he knew it - options? be a dick and see what happens. He saw what happens if you dick off to SVG who's done nothing but race you clean all day ~ Like Shane said "Talk about? I guess, don't know what there is to talk about" ~ Austin would agree.
I would think less of SVG if he hadn't knocked him on his ass. You were BEAT Austin! and you know it!
Exactly. Hill knew he had nothing for SVG when it comes to racing skill so he had to push him off the track to try and beat him.
The penalty should be a stop and go set up somewhere on the track, just like how they have it set up on the Roval. A pass through is so excessive
AJ pushed SVG wide so he could get past, SVG pushed AJ wide to get his place back.
In V8 Supercars AJ would have had to redress the position or cop a penalty.
Running each other off the track is why the rest of the world doesn't watch NASCAR.
Yes the track limits are stupid, and again the only place it happens is NASCAR. Use the centre of the car over the white line on the corners, I'm not talking about the run off areas, but you shouldn't be using run off areas as acceleration areas.
What's the point of having a track if you don't have to drive on it.
There are driving in the track dude. If you don't like it don't watch.
@@Vivid-197 Wonderfully mature response mate...!!!
@@Vivid-197 As I said, there is a reason why the rest of the world doesn't watch NASCAR, and since viewer numbers are dwindling in the States as well, wouldn't it be better to encourage as many people as possible to start watching.
I made a suggestion with something that may be a possible improvement, maybe, maybe not, but you could have at least encouraged a discussion or a debate on why you prefer to have drivers using bash and crash techniques over drivers using skills and race craft to get the best lap times out of their cars.
@@stevegraham3817 this Nascar m8 there have being doing this for 76 years so if you don't like it don't watch simple as that Buddy.
@@Vivid-197 Yeah, don't worry I won't be watching it. In 45 years of watching motor racing of every kind that has any sort of mechanical propulsion in every sort of vehicle, vessel, and craft, I can sadly say I have never watched a full NASCAR or NASCAR derivative race.
I thought this would be the era that finally changed my mind, but sadly, it is looking more likely that I won't watch it this time around either.
Hopefully SVG will move across to Indy Cars where the real talent is because I would still like to watch him race.
I like the horse racing rule. You finish behind the horse you fouled. So if it’s just on place or six, ten or twenty spots you lose it’s still your fault you fouled. Last year we saw Bubba Wallace get a race suspension when he wasn’t even in the playoffs. That is ridiculous. Egregious penalties need to make folks remember the rules.
Me being a moron. Either have track limits or not. Why only track limits on parts of the track. Strike rule works. It give a bit of slack then tidies up your lines real quick.
2nd to 28th... just a tad harsh 😅
SVG is the best of the BEST!!! full stop so putting him into your motorsport is the wise decision as you guys have sh**loads of money to play with and he wants ... innnnn!!
Seemed like Hill checked up a little when SVG hit him which made the hit a bit more severe, otherwise I think Hill would have been punted out of the way with that amount of force if his car was near the limit.
T1 is always tricky on a tight turn like that. If you're way on the inside like that, you'll have to brake earlier than the rest simply because you're sacrificing a wider arc for track position. At T1, looked like Hill applied some pressure and it got paid back to him when he checked up later.
hill has a major anger and ego issue if he ever makes cup he cant be either or he wont win ever and he will get into many fights
Austin already spun Chandler Smith by pushing the 8 car into Chandler. What goes around comes around. Maybe he should try to improve his passing skills. He certainly needs to own up to his actions instead of trying to blame others.
Yoi dont muck around with Gizzy. Hill found that out.
I say penalize for every corner or none. Or better yet forget Austin and go to Rockingham.
As an Austin Hill fan, my issue wasn't with the fact that SVG moved him out of the way, i completely understood why he did that, my issue was the fact that he did it so hard that his front end was caved in, AND he didn't even win the race
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Larson’s analysis was exactly right. Larson waited for the inevitable retaliation by SVG.
I’m pretty sure I’m in the minority here, but I thought this past race just looked super unprofessional. You guys don’t ignore track limits like y’all did this weekend when you race Sonoma or Watkins Glen. But for COTA everyone just ignores the lines and takes corners as wide as they want. It doesn’t look as bad as Phoenix does, but still just looks a little amateurish.
Yep, hill billy racing
I think you yanks have no idea as yet what SVG is capable of and what is coming for you. That was just a very small taste of what SVG has in his kit bag. He will out think, out drive, out maneuver and psyche out his competition and then take wins and ultimately championships. It’s what he has done in every discipline he has competed in. Eastern Creek raceway, in a Supercar a few years back. Drying wet track. He is on overheating wets. Running down the main straight at nearly 300km/h putting the left hand tires on the grass one lap then the right hand tires on the grass the next, to keep them cool so he could win the race! He is a master and probably will be one of the greatest multi discipline drivers in history.
They should make the track be unforgiving if you cut the corner too much. You don't get a penalty, you hit a curb instead, which might inflict damage. Would make for some risks if you do it to much...
Pillsbury Dough Boy Hill loves dishing it out but can never take it.
100% agreed with McDowell.. CURBS BABY! If you don't wanna tear up your car then stay on the track .. Simple
You get what you give , it’s racing all around the world.
Nascar better not start having driver penalties. That's what separates it and makes it better from other car racing categories.
Man I love this show,
In supercargo they have a b pillar rule also. If someone gets beside you to the point of the b pillar, you get right of way
It's a pity SVG didn't try and pass and hit him post race they had tyre disadvantage to winner and penalty cost him in the end...
You don’t mess with SVG he will put you in your place
Shane perfected the bump and run long before he went to NASCAR. I think he was just sending a message that he bites back.
In Supercars Austin Hill would have been given at least a 5 second penalty for a bump and run,
Much prefer Supercars where we have track limits on EVERY corner. It just made the NASCAR races look lazy and sloppy with cars being so far outside the delineated track…
Pushing people off is not racing. Nascar is the only race series that I know of that allows if not encourages drivers to bump and run.
the old adage of "don't start something you can't finish" springs to mind ........... SVG fights hard but fair.... but I'm a kiwi so probably as little biased 🤣
Shane is definitely a gentleman by NASCAR standards - even if he pushed the limits in Supercars from time to time :P
But seriously, give him a bit more experience in NASCAR and he'll be exactly as menacing with the bumper as he wants/needs to be. Excited to see him here!
Austin Hill is always blameless. His actions toward Sheldon Creed last year, including applauding Sheldon's crew, were the work of an entitled brat, while his attitude toward SVG was that of a feral Karen. It's really too bad as he's a very good driver and will be in Cup soon. If he'd man up and quit acting like a spoiled child it would only help his career, but I'm not holding my breath waiting.
Im so glad Nascar doesn't penalize like supercars and f1. I wouldn't watch it if they penalized for bumping.
Hamlin didn't mind wrecking Chase Elliot for a win at Martinsville but threw a temper tantrum when someone did it to him and screwed up someone's victory celebration
Bathurst 1000, for example is 1000 kilometers of race, but the race course itself is actual roads that normal people drive on, on day to day deliveries coming in and leaving bathurst. this course also has Absolutely HUGE undulations and HUGE extra-vert-ad areas then with the weather also in situ. and traffic and tyre pressures its absolutely serious buisiness.
Beyond The V8 supercar Bathurst i think the next biggest think would have to be the ISLE of MAN TT
That is insane even though its on 2 wheels
Hot damn. I actually agree with Denny for a change 😂
Maybe it will brew his first rivalry in NASCAR. I think he'll catch on quickly. He still finished ahead of Hill with a buckled front.
He doesn't need to catch on, it's drivers like Hill that need too.
In Supercars retaliation is a huge problem, because it's considered to be "ok" culturally. The series had to crack down on it just to stop people being put into the wall every race.
Everyone is saying the penalty is harsh, but SVG is used to getting suspended for something like that.
A penalty like that isn't a deterrent to a guy like SVG.
@@louiscypher4186 I agree
most series are underfunded hence the reason they have such strict rules and penalties for contact and then open wheel you cant bump bc your car will be destroyed. all the outsiders that want to just regulate nascar and make it like every other league just need to shut the hell up and watch those series if that is what you like.
If you dish it out, you best be able to take it.
As an Australia viewer, Austin hill needs to stay his own lane & Don’t ever mess with SVG! He’s has best resume in his racing career. A 3 time Supercars Champion & 3 time Bathurst 1000 winner! 🏆 & Austin will never become a nascar champion if he going to continue his dirty driving style!
Dude did you not see Austin knocked a dude out??
@@Vivid-197 So what ? smh
@@Vivid-197 and? Meh
@@Vivid-197 NEVER bully a Kiwi or an Australian as we don't take no shit or back down! Want to take a swing? C'mon C#@T, bring it!
SVG never forgets.
SVG had no part in that Austin brake checked him
Welcome to a generation of drivers who don’t understand “consequence for your actions”.
lmao, austin is just like denny and KB were yrs ago. ok for them to wreck someone , but when they got wrecked they'd cry like 5 yr olds. remember denny . austin is a punk kid that has to just grow up like denny and kb. the worst cyr babies ever in nascar
In the words of the late great D. Earnhardt, got to stand your ground, and i aint gonna take it. Got to do what you got to do SVG.
Just saying watch the move in very slow motion and it appears Hill hit the brakes of missed a gear, anyways Hill should race with skill not argy bargy as you will always get one back just when you don't need it.
Shane was penalized not for pushing hill but for going ovef the racing line same as what happens in motogp ,love respect to all drivers
Race people back how they race you. Have to draw a line as a racer in NASCAR.
What also makes this worse is how we're constantly talking about track limits. I don't want to watch a race where half the talk is about track limits. It's part of why I lost interest in F1. Austria and the desert tracks are a misery to watch because that's half the discussion of the weekend.
Fortunately, it's not as much of an issue in NASCAR because places like Watkins Glen and Sonoma exist. But there can be something like a no advantage rule or strike system. As much as I feel the coming to the stop rule is pretty overblown, it's not as bad. At COTA, there's also the penalty loop. Instead of a drive-through, running that would look less awful.