Michael Schack - Things You Do With Roland's (new) TM-2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Michael Schack shows what you can do with Roland's new trigger module, the TM-2 which was released at the (Winter) Namm Show, January 2014.
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A neat way to add sounds to a acoustic kit. His digital kit sounds so real to my ears.
Thanks George!
are there any tutorials out there for how to set these up. I have a tm2 and a td-15 i would like to know how to get them both triggering on e kit
Amazing tutorial man! It's me the guy from Dallas tx show we were at the bar afterwards, gave u a download card. Can you do a video for hooking. Up module to a daw? Possible to use midi and do notes using the drum module?
Really cool stuff. Thanks for sharing here.
Hi Michael, I was hoping you could answer a question for me.
I bought the roland td 15 kv and I love it but I'm always looking for more.
Does this tm-2 hook up easily to the roland td 15 module? How do you hook it up and is it simple to add it to the sounds of the td 15? Thank you.
Yes, the TD-15 is perfectly compatible with TM-2 as TD-15 has a MIDI OUT connector which will transmit any incoming triggering signal from your TD-15 pads straight into the TM-2 (through its MIDI In). That's how I'm using it here with the TD-30. Lightning fast and convenient!
Hello, do you have a web page where i can down load some of those sample slices u have made for your Roland SPD-SX like that last sample.I love your style and would like to use it on my SPD-SX if possible. Thanks.
Hi....
How have you connected up the tm-2 with the td 30? And what other settings do i need to use?
I use a RT-30H trigger and I can not put 2 sounds in that same trigger, is it possible? I would like to insert sound from Skin and Aro using 1 this single trigger, I have read the manual several times but I can not. Help me, please.
Hey Michael, i have number six in Belgium! buying after your show at Adams Diest. I use it to pimp my Roland TD4 sound to an higher level!
Is this module only to trigger short samples, or you can launch big samples, like 3 or 4 min. I think of a custom metronome sound with a vocal backup to play along on an acoustic kit ?
I'm getting one as soon as they let me have one!
Dave Atkinson spotted, jared around here too? ;)
Dave Atkinson it’s been 4 yrs. Hope you have one now. I just ordered one. I’ll buy the TM-6Pro next month
Hey Michael! Can i change presets using the MIDI IN that the TM2 brings? with a midi channel from ableton live that writes the order. thanks!
+nicolas natiello Hi Nicolas, yes you can. You can send Program Change messages to the TM2
Thanks Michael! It's really helpful
hi, I need to use the TM2 on the cajon and then use 2 piezos on the same surface, which setting should I use to get 2 separate sounds if possible?
Question How is the TM-2 Setting on top of the Sound Module? Are you using Velcro Strips thats holding it in place? If so will this work on the TD-50 Module?
Very interesting video thank you!
Is in possible to use TM-2 with MIDI PAD, connected to MIDI IN of TM-2? If yes, can TM-2 sound more then 2 pads of my MIDI PAD?
+Alexey Khvatov Yes, this is possible! And you have 4 pads : 2 on channel 1, 2 on channel 2.
Con el set que tenes y teniendo todas esas maquinas este nuevo TM2 no lo llevas porque es muy básico. Solo dos entradas de trigger?
Fantastic. Drumming mind = expanded.
Hi, I saw in one of your videos that TM2 can load loops. Is it possible?
Anael Teacher Yes, it can play loops even straight from the SD Card!
Hi , im irani , you good drummers
بسیار خوب و حرفه ایی هستی ,
Great video as usual! How did you connect both modules together to allow you to overlay the sounds while still using the same pad? I would like to purchase the TM-2 only if I can use it the same way with my TD-20 kit.
mojo drum Thanks! I use a simple MIDI out from TD-30 into MIDI in of the TM-2, so you can just do the same with your TD-20. Enjoy!
I have 2 questions! Can you plug the Roland Tm-2 directly to my td 6 pads and use it as my module? Can you trigger custom loops on the Roland Tm-2?
Arnulfo Rodriguez yes!
can i record kick and snare trigger with my roland tm2 as 2 separate MIDI channels in my DAW? i know the unit only supports recording one channel of midi but is there anyway around this? no info in manual. thanks.
+bob brown Yea, just pan them Left and Right and you have them separated across the two outputs.
Hi Michael. I want to link 2 Tm-2 modules together. I know that l can send program change from the first module to the 2nd module (which is great) but if I MIDI out of that 2nd module in to a computer (to play vst sounds) will it send MIDI note data from both of the modules to the computer? Like MIDI Thru. Thank you for your help.
Yes, that should be possible. Check the MIDI settings in the system settings of TM-2. But the fastest and more convenient setup would be using the new TM-6Pro for this. Depends on your available budget as well of course.
Hi there,
I don't know if you already answer this : I have roland triggers that I'm planning to connect to a TM-2 module but can I easily trigger superior drummer sound library using TM-2 ? And if so, is a midi-to-usb cable enough to connect to my laptop ?
+Oswen Lafitte TM-2 has no MIDI out, so you won't be able to connect it directly to your computer... You can do this with any other Roland module though.
Hey Michael, How are you bringing your sounds through the computer to make this video? Through the module to laptop? Or ?
How are you programming the different layers on a sound?
hi, I have recently got the TM 2 and I wanted to know if to use the effects (distortion, compressor, flanger, etc.) it is necessary to select a sound from the control unit or the real sound of the drum can be used
Those fx are mainly designed to put on top of the internal/sd card samples you trigger from pads or the trigger units on drums, not the drum microphone sounds goikg into the TM-2 what some people are trying to do.
You can use the TM-2 with pad (PD-7, PD-9, etc.) connected directly to it?
Felipe Martínez yes!
Hi! What are the editables triggers parameters? Are the same of the others roland drum modules? Sensivity,level, threshold, retrigger,etc....
trigger types (including all old and new pads + trigger pick ups), MIDI, sensitivity, threshold, mask time, level, retrigger…the whole "shabam"!
Thanks!
Nice. . . .
but what will the Front On House tech think of it when i only feed him the output sound of the TM-2 ? ( so no miking in my acoustic bass)
With big FOH PA & good tech, he will want both your acoustic and TM-2 layer sometimes. Perfect Power Combination!
Hi michael,
How did you attach your tm-2 on top of td-30?
I want to attach my tm-2 on top of my spd-30.
Thanks..
Gaffer tape and some velcro. Top technology:)
Hey Michael! Great video! Have a question regarding "MIDI IN" in the TM-2. Can I attach a Multi MIDI Pad Like the "Roland SPD-30" or "ALESIS Control Pad" to send MIDI notes to the TM-2 MIDI Input and trigger a multitude of Sounds like a mini kit? Example: 8 Pads coming from the SPD-30 or an "Alesis CP" adding a Roland BT-1 / Roland KT-1 via the 1st TM-2 Input using the Splitter and Finally a Roland PD-105 on the 2nd TM-2 Input as a snare drum. It would be a total of 11 Triggers with that setup... I would love to know your response.
Same here, is it possible??
Is it possible?
+1, I also need to know
A german friend test it for me. Even using midi in, this module only can address 4 sounds at the same time. So you are limited to 4 sounds only.
Thanks! Kenai! Love the Avatar! :)
Love this video! Would layering with an acoustic drum kit be as affective in your opinion? Mainly just the kick and snare to get the extra power behind it and change the sound. I play a wide range of song with different sound styles in a live setting.
Yes, that's what the TM-2 has been mainly designed for. Acoustic drums, e-drums, anything goes. Roland Designers focused mainly on using RT triggers with TM-2 which are attached to your acoustic drums (Kick, Snare, Toms etc.) - ideal sound reinforcement and impact effect for acoustic drummers playing a variety of songs/styles.
Perfect, Thanks Michael!
How do you record your sounds from the modules combined? Can you record only midi (in cubase for example) and listen directly back to the recorded modules sounds? I heard you both need midi/in and midi/out to listen back? Because hooking 2 modules you loose the midi/in? And is there any latency this wise?
Remon Masseling Latency is minimal, because the triggering is already converted into MIDI when sending it out from your module into TM-2. You hook up from module MIDI Out into TM-2 MIDI In. When you record all MIDI into Cubase or any other DAW, you can then send it back to the modules and record the audio on separate tracks. I do this all the tile this way. Grtz
Thanks for getting back to me.
So tm2 will only be able to trigger the kick and snare on my drum kit? Or any other 2 drums I pick?
How do you specify which 2 drum pads you want the tm-2 to trigger?
Thank you, you are an inspiration to us e drum newbies!
Any other drums as well! Drum pads = you can chose with MIDI note numbers. Triggers, you can connect 4 (or 2 dual triggers) and chose the instruments in ™-2.
So how many bars of loop are possible? Are they continuous? Or do you have to keep hitting the trigger over again?
Nivej8180 You can just have one very loooooooonnnnggg sample as well, depending on how big your SD Card is. So you can also trigger a song and make it loop, or divide it in sections and then loop it from different instrument triggers. Check the SPD-SX performance clips if you would like to see more examples of this concept! Grtz
Like to see someone make their own samples on an acoustic drum kit and then trim/edit those samples and replay those sounds using triggers and/or pads. It would be nice to see if it could be done in a quick time using the same drum rack so you go from loud playing to quiet playing in a home environment and get use to the feel and use of each setup. Pearl traveller kit/Ludwig Breakbeats and Zildjian L80s, drum microphones, QSC TouchMix mixer, Akai MPC Live, Roland TM-2, Axis Double Pedal with eKits or similar and setup so you can quickly change from one to the other, quick release cymbal toppers. You could also use the setup for recording and step sequencing and over dubbing your drum parts. Maybe nobody else sees any sense in this, lol
Very nice demo Michael - So its 4 input trigger, and 4 output audio (with 2 x stereo split cable) Can the TM-2 adjust 4 individual levels for user samples on the 4 individual audio out?
Thanks! It doesn't have 4 separate audio outs, just one stereo which you can split. Grtz
Thank You Michael!
TM-2 trigger is great! But what I don't understand is how can they make two inputs signals. If there is three type of triggers, the Kickdrum-trigger, Tom-trigger and the Snare-trigger?
It's simple : snare trigger uses two signals, tom and kick trigger only one, which fits with one of those two dual trigger inputs ( one input czn process two idependent signals)
Hi Michael
Obvious question, how do you connect the TM-2 to an electronic kit, is it via a Y cable. Thanks from Nigel
Nigel Howes through MIDI : MIDI out from electronic drum module into MIDI Inof TM-2
There is 2 different version Tm-2. 1 for US and 1 for Aus is it? Why on Michael have attack 5 but on mine only to attack 3?
Same version for all over the world. I'm using a preproduction version in this clip
Hi, Michael. Can I use this with the kt-10 pedal to play sounds in Ableton Live?
Devin Bustin Yes you can, Devin. Connect the KT to one of those trigger inputs of the TM, connect the TQM to Ableton through your MIDI interface and off you go! Grtz
Thanks, Michael Schack ! see an SPD-SX there, too. Can you tell me if there's any way to use a hi-hat pedal of any sort with the SPD-SX? That problem is driving me crazy!
I have no idea how to use MIDI. Any chance you have a video on how you can trigger the TM2 with a TD25KV module?
+Gino Nistico It's in the planning. But it's also simple : match the note numbers of your kick and snare with those of the 2 trigger channels inside the TM-2, and it's done. Grtz
+Michael Schack Got it. ThanK you. Also, can you explain or video how you have the TM2 mounted above the TD30 Module? I have the TD25. so I'm assuming it might be just as easy.
Thank you again
G.
did you modified your mds-25 rack?? a can't put 3 toms on the right side :(
at 9:39 its sounds like techno/house
Nice performance Michael :) I got a question...Is it possible to get same drum sound on td-25kv with that module? Because that td-30-kv costs to much for me. :( Thanks! :)
+6Mendzy666 A nice selection of the TD-30 sounds are also included in the TD-25, but not all of them. It's a good alternative though and you will be very inspired. Grtz
I decided for TD-30 and from that moment my roland set arrived I think that was very good choice for td-30...I got one more question if i wanna new drum set with electronic sounds I have to download them or create them from module. Thanks a lot :)
Hi Michael,Is it possible to use sounds from EZdrummer 2 via sd card please? If yes,(using Roland RT 30 trigger series) can i still play ghost notes, accents..... as i can do with the TM-2 factory sounds? Thank you.....Patrick Ardouin says hi ;)
Rodolphe Chaillou Yes you can use EZ Drummer samples, but first you will need to export those from that software onto an SD Card. EZ Drummer has a particular way to organise their samples, so best is to resample by exporting them and then transfer to SD for use inTM-2. But there's many totally TM-2 ready sampkes on the net! Please check some dedicated samples I made/released here : www.loopmasters.com/products/3452-Michael-Schack-Hybrid-Beats-Session
Un grand bonjour de ma part, aussi à Patrick!
Merci pour ta réponse Michael, je me rends compte que j'aurais pu t'écrire en français :). Il y a une phrase que je ne suis pas certain de comprendre" best is to resample by exporting them and then transfer to SD for use inTM-2." Peut tu me la traduire stp? Et me dire aussi si en utilisant ces sons, je pourrais toujours jouer des ghost notes, accents....tout comme avec les sons d'usine du TM2? Je te remercie beaucoup, ça m'aide énorme. Je transmets ton bonjour à Patrick(ptit jaune), ça tombe bien je dois l'appeler!!
Rodolphe Chaillou Il faut que tu a des sons spécifiques pour les ghosts et les accents, donc au moins deux différents. En plus, ils doivent être "compatibles" pour avoir une unité musicale. Alors il fzut que tu exportes deux sons séparés pour chaque instrument.
J'ai des sons totalement compatibles dans mon sample pack "Hybrid Beats Session" : www.loopmasters.com/products/3452-Michael-Schack-Hybrid-Beats-Session - en vente spéciale maintenant:-)
Hi there! great video! I have a question, I'm looking for a device to play wav files like synths linked to a metronome that allows tempo changes. Any ideas? Something relatively cheap? thanks!
Nothing is cheap. The prices are fixed across manufacturers for modules with their specific options. Roland tiny TM-2 Drum Trigger Module $199.00 [cheap]???
+xFightdemonx Your laptop would be your best choice, with Ableton Live as your music software/ DAW. There's no hardware module that would be less expensive than you computer you already have...
+Michael Schack thanks for advice :D!
How can i keep the acoustic cymbals in the room mic...and the rest of the triggers(mono x3)..with the tm2 set up....i only have the roland go mixer pro...
You definitely need a bigger mixer. With a single room mic, the hitting on the pads will sound loud as well so you need to have more control. That’s why This one was released 👉 www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B089XY7Z27/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_3PCTATC01TSCJ55M2MW3
@@michaelschack thanks for the reply sir....i'm also using a standard cdj with a numark mixer, an sm57, and Akg kick mic...i just find the snare sounds very bright and almost too live ?..which is down to the basic room sound,. Tried dampening the snare and moving the sm57 around but still too sharp sounding...will have a look at the mixer you suggest thanks again..
Como posso conectar o TM-2 no SPD SX via midi com dois Pads ligados no SPD-SX?
Aguardo resposta.....obrigado!
Can you use the Roland TM-2 using pads or triggers to trigger sounds via midi. Example - connected to a drum machine or sampler or synth like Elektron Digitakt, Akai MPC Live, Boss Dr Rhythm series, Alesis SR16 or 18, Moog Minotaur, Elektron Digitone, 1010music Blackbox, etc and could you assign different external midi sounds to different triggers and pads? If it works, would there be any long latency that would make it unusable if jamming along with a band in practice or live applications vs using a Drum Module or Roland Sample Pad, etc???
I know you were basically doing this during different parts of this video.
Yes, it has MIDI out so you can.
How do you have theTM-2 mounted to the TD-30?
FirstSergeant100 Gaffer tape:))
Can the Roland TD17 be connected to the Roland tm 2 with a midi out cable so I can have the sounds of the TD17 on the tm2 directly with a midi out cable?
Why would you want to do that? The TD-17 has the sample import and layering function of the TM-2 inside. Here you can find my artist kits for TD-17, new samples included 👉 michaelschackmusic.com/shop.html#!/products/michael-schack-td-17-artist-kits
@@michaelschack Knows how I can put new sounds (Tom 1 2 3 4) in tm 2?
@@michaelschack I have the Roland td17kvx and I have already made an extension to the AUX socket for crash so another socket does not have the td 17. I want to make an extension to second floor Tom (Tom 4). I bought the Roland tm 2 which has 2 Triggers slots. knows how I can save new sounds (Tom 1 2 3 4) to brain tm2 so I can have toms sounds on the new pad (roland pdx100) to add to edrums?
Is there a built in metronome? And if so, can it be routed to only go out through the headphone out and not the main outputs?
+Victor Carnevali No, that's not possible...unfortunately. The SPD-SX can do this though, and more. Cheers
the metronome is too slow for micheal :D
Are there velocity settings on the tm-2? If I for example wanted the same velocity out of every hit no matter how hard I hit the head? And will there be sounds fitted to replace your entire kick drum?
Yes, you can chose in between multiple velocity curves, apart from the linear one.
Michael Schack And supposedly, a tm-2 would work as well as, for example ,an spd-sx for triggering a kickdrum in an "extreme" metal situation/ at great speeds? And then I'm talking latency- and pickupwise/sensitivetywise. It should be as solid ( in technical terms ) and without any real reason for increased misstriggering or anything like that, compared to something like the spd-sx, right? There shouldn't actually be something that makes this worse or less suitable for triggering your kickdrum? I mean, this should pick up as many hits as an spd-sx? Sorry for all the questions, I just wan't to be sure about what I'm buying. I think I heard you saying somewhere that the tm-2 uses the same processing unit as an spd-sx, am I correct? Supposedly that should mean that it should be able to work as well for my application? I'm not looking for a bunch of features, just something solid, reliable and "quick-thinking". Would you say that I've found the right module? ( I use a Roland RT-10K btw ). I thank you for the help my good sir!
Can I plug a kd 7 unit into tm 2 for kick use only
Yes you can!
My snare and kick are miked so can I use the module to trigger my four acoustic toms live?
TheBudgiedrummer yes
Thanks. Apart from the module manual, do you know of a "how to" guide for dummies. I know WHAT the TM-2 can do but not exactly HOW to get it to do it. I'm specifically looking for guidance regarding sd cards and how to add and access your own samples/backing tracks etc. Thanks again.
Really great man! Can you show the roland tm-10 kick trigger?
Not yet - waiting for it to arrive. Thanks for your comment
Do u ever layer cymbals and how many can u layer at a time.
Matthew Moreno yes I do sometimes, but one at a time
Will you be present at the Musikmesse 2014?
I will visit on thursday and friday, but no performance this year due to not being able to arrive there in time for pre-opening and opening on wednesday. Still on tour in Australia till tuesday.
I will miss your demo's at the Musikmesse, it's always a lot of fun... are you going to post some video's of your tour in Australia?
where do you get wav samples
Matthew Moreno You can find high res wavs here :
www.loopmasters.com/products/3452-Michael-Schack-Hybrid-Beats-Session
Http://michaelschack.bandcamp.com
It's just a shame that the TD-30 module can't do layering it's self like the yamaha dtx900 module can. I had to make a choice between a TD-30 and DTX950 recently and went with the TD-30 because I loved the feel of it but I must admit that the yamaha module has better features.
The Yamaha has an 8,2miliseconds latency, the TD-30 only 2,9... Also, the TD-30 sounds are genuine SuperNatural compatible, the Yamaha sounds come from the synth department sound banks. Big difference. And the TD-30 CAN do some layering : check the "ADD" function for snare and HH in the instrument edit page.
Insteresting the TD-30 can do layering, because I'm tempting to buy the Roland TM-2 only for this purpose. Specifically I would like to add a layer of snare to my TD- 30 and I if can solve it with the TD-30 module itself, the better. But I just looked quickly on the menu and I can't really figure out how.
I’m seeing one of these used on marketplace right now for 100$….. this might be what I need for my spd-30 mini kit…… help get around the issue of no user sample import. This will help beef up the kick and snare and up to 4 user samples
Exactly! Did you get it?
How do i connect tm2 to td25?
Matthew Moreno TD-25 MIDI out to TM-2 MIDI in
how do i connect tm2 with an electronic drum ..
Sanchita Dasgupta Through MIDI
If someone doesn't dance to your beats, they have a serious problem hahaha
Why doesnt Roland simple make a module that allows you to layer your sounds within the module ???
Because it will cost you extra flash memory, extra processing and increase the latency because if audio and editing streaming. So it's better to keep it outside if the main low latency module, and leave that choice to the user. It's like with computers : external sound cards equals improved processing in your main unit. Cheers
My Yamaha Double Zone [DZ] DTX V2 module allows this with any DZ pad. The center and rim can sound together on one hit. Choose any sound I want to layer. Any full sized DZ module likely does the same. The TM-2 is a small module If a DZ then should also layer on one pad.
Michael Schack great info, please can you tell me if the tm2 is compatible with the td25 via midi
Where can I download the samples you use ?
Samples that I have available for download are on michaelschack.bandcamp.com
Michael Schack I mean the samples in the TM-2 for bassdrum and snare ?
I just released a full Sample Pack, including the individual sounds I use + many new ones and much more. Here's the link : www.hospitalrecords.com/shop/release/michael-schack/nhssamp015-hybrid-beats-session
Michael Schack Thank you !!! Great Sample Pack :)
Awesome! :)
Ik vind de TM-2 alleen wat duur... :(
Dan zal ik eerder een 2e hands TD-15 module opzoeken o.i.d...
Hoeveel kost die TM-2 dan volgens jou? In US wordt het 199USD geloof ik.
Michael Schack
Bij Bax hebben ze er al een prijsje van 201 euro opgeplakt...
Nu zal dat nog kunnen veranderen omdat ze er nog 21 weken op wachten...
Maar veel zal de prijs niet afwijken denk ik?!
Ik blijf 't wel een geniaal concept vinden voor de hybrid drummer! :)
Are you daisy chaining through the TM-2 or are you using the RTs on you electronic drums?
I'm daisy chaining TM-2 through MixIn on TD-30 module - 1 RT is on the small acoustic snare behind me, TD-30 pads are triggering TM-2 though MIDI
Would you recommend using a splitter to trigger a full four piece kit? I do think this concept of a small "brain" is great for the gigging city drummer, which is a niche that roland was missing. I honestly can't schlepp my snare, my bass pedal and cymbals with a TD20 brain all on the Metro. Its too damn heavy
ed salisch Yes, you can use splitter cables - stereo jack to 2 x mono jack will enable you to trigger 4 instruments at the same time. You can use 4 buckets if you want and trigger 4 ™-2 instruments x 100 kits = 400 instruments from there if you want, including some loops you can trigger straight from the ™-2 SD card as well.
How to use tm2 in ezdrummer?
Drummer Gamer Jhony Not suited for it as it can only take two dual trigger pads. Better to use TM-6Pro for it.
Hi Michael can i connect my tm2 whit my TD11?
+Rene Galdamez Yes you can! Just connect the TD-11 Midi Out connector to the TM-2 MIDI IN!
Thanks Michael .. you´re the best !!!
8:25 Great fill
Beast!
Why are you using beats Headphones? In my opinion, there are several other headphones that are much better and they cost the same/less.
I'm using the Beats Pro (professional studio model) , which are perfect to balance the low end and isolate enough when I hit those pads really hard and when having the pick up presentation microphone so close to the ears. I bought those for 150 Euro (instead of those 385 Euros in the store) online on a promo site, so for me a very good bargain!
I wonder if Michael is watching Belgium in the World Cup?
Boombastic Beat engine of music
be my god
Notice 99% of the enjoyment is his skill. The bells and whistles are 1%
Thanks for the compliment! But...the bells and whistles are those important possibilities which inspire to play out of the box :)
try arabian beats if the percussion is availbale on spd 30
Shivanand Gunness This one is about TM-2 - you can check out my SPD-30 clips here on TH-cam as well. Cheers
Poor drums... you are getting the s#!t out of them xD
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼💪🏼
Brutally man.... jajaja
Sounds like Mickey Mouse!!!
Real bullshit
Big Neutron That's actually an inspiring comment as Mickey Mouse is still kind of an epic character. Thanks!
How do i connect tm2 to td25?
Matthew Moreno TD-25 MIDI Out into TM-2 MIDI In