Medtner - Sonata Op. 25 No. 2 "Night Wind" (Eckardstein)

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  • @SeigneurReefShark
    @SeigneurReefShark  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    00:00​ - I. Introduzione: Andante con moto
    02:37​ - II. Allegro
    15:33​ - III. Tempo dell'introduzione
    18:20​ - IV. Allegro molto sfrenatamente, presto
    26:32​ - V. Quasi cadenza
    This performance was for me a revelation. As much as i love other performances of this work, especially Milne and Ponochevny, i think that this one is superior in many ways. First of all : the incredible atmoshpere. Eckardstein can both play extremely violently (not "bangy" though) or so very softly and suddenly go for a total contrast in nuance, while doing the transition very well. Medtner intended this piece to be "always played in an epic spirit". Well here I never listened to such an epic performance. He has a way of playing this sonata, that at the first measures already you know how great its going to be. He mixes the dark, eerie and menacing and solemn side of Tozer with the vigor and energy of Kholodenko and the subtlety of Milne, while keeping the flow of the piece the whole time, while never showing a single mark of tiring. And this result in an impetuous, unbashed, unstoppable wind, a true Night Wind.

    • @ArthratraxIndebted-58
      @ArthratraxIndebted-58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that the performance is good but I find the piano tone very harsh. Could be the lousy U-tube bitrate of 128kbps which is scarcely more than speech quality.

  • @central9823
    @central9823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    13:55
    この世で最も完成された芸術作品の一つ
    この曲に出会えたというだけで生まれてきた甲斐があったと思える。

  • @globalc3849
    @globalc3849 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Amazing and unreal performance. This piece is a miracle.

  • @PieInTheSky9
    @PieInTheSky9 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hard to believe someone wrote this really. The counterpoint and textual sophistication is rather stunning. The playing is remarkable, properly tempestuous without blurring the harmonies with careful attention towards bringing out the melody & countermelodies (which can easily be lost in the sea of notes).

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He just throws random chords and rhythmns around. Not even his melodies have any form of structure... pathetic.

    • @gabrieltelemaqueninin7626
      @gabrieltelemaqueninin7626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Whatismusic123 random. . .

  • @iianneill6013
    @iianneill6013 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The performance of a lifetime ...

  • @tedpiano
    @tedpiano ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I'm at Juilliard for piano. Someone was practicing this next door to me tonight and that part around 29:03 was one of the most wicked, grotesque, and insane things I've ever heard coming through those walls lol

    • @ConcordMass
      @ConcordMass ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lucky

    • @stephanjwilliams
      @stephanjwilliams ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's good to know that Medtner is becoming more popular. I just hope that that student continues to learn Medtner's music, and promotes it in his/her career as a musician.

    • @tedpiano
      @tedpiano ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​​​​​​​​​@@stephanjwilliams Well they certainly had an impact on me, I'm learning Medtner's Concerto No. 2 now. I can think of a few friends who have played his music while I've been here, both little encores up to the sonatas and concertos... seems like an unlikely combo but I wouldn't put it past Gen-Z piano virtuosos to bring Medtner back lol

    • @stephanjwilliams
      @stephanjwilliams ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tedpiano That's amazing! The second concerto is essentially a perfect Romantic piano concerto. The Concerto-Ballad is my favorite, though, because of the sublime heights it reaches through its contemplative atmosphere. I'm not even a music student, but I'm considering pursuing piano after getting my degree in philosophy. Medtner's Night Wind and Beethoven's Op. 109 sonatas are my dream pieces for a potential senior recital. Good luck with the second concerto!

    • @christopherczajasager9030
      @christopherczajasager9030 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you ever heard opus 11 nr.3 of Schoenberg ? I played it when studying at Juilliard many years ago. I was naive to play it for my teacher Rosina Lhévinne who asked..." Why did you bring this piece of hatred and ugliness?"......

  • @KenBreadbox
    @KenBreadbox ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Reminiscenza will always be my favourite for sheer melody, but this is stunning, and by far the best performance I have heard. Eckardstein decrypts Medtner so well.

  • @marcellomarianetti1770
    @marcellomarianetti1770 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't love other Medtner works much, but THIS ONE is above everything! 30 minutes of the same bunch of themes, rearranged, split, torn apart, and I never get bored, then the alternation of the furious, windy moments with the meditative, calm (before the storm) sections, it's a gorgeous Sonata. This performance is the cherry on top, the voicing is sublime, very powerful sound, but NOT (thank God) rushed like Kholodenko's one. I had never heard of Eckardstein before, but he sounds incredibly amazing.

  • @erwinschulhoff4464
    @erwinschulhoff4464 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    BRO THIS GOES SO HARDDD

  • @truekingvictory
    @truekingvictory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How have I not heard of Eckardstein until now?? That was a performance of a lifetime! Thanks for posting, ReefShark.

  • @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets
    @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets ปีที่แล้ว +8

    AMAZING PERFORMANCE! Never heard of this incredible pianist before! So intelligent and thoughtful. He understands what he’s playing and it shows

  • @이제훈-g2l
    @이제훈-g2l ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Similar to Marcel Proust "In search of lost time" - Difficult to approach, but you will see another great world once you get into it.

  • @golfer5990
    @golfer5990 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great sonata. Medtner is one of my favorite composers. The Sonata Triad is probably my favorite but I like them all.

  • @archiesarna-howard460
    @archiesarna-howard460 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The second theme of the first movement is BEAUTFUL

  • @markos3940
    @markos3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    cant stop listening this masterpiece

  • @LukeZX4
    @LukeZX4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    YES! Thank you so much for uploading this. Eckardstein's approach is insurmountably epic and violent (with all the beautiful moments gorgeously shining through), incredibly voiced, sharply articulated, and altogether incredibly constructed. This sonata was never comprehensible to me until I came across this version. The truly definitive recording.

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Masterpiece of music.

  • @sebastiantorres2542
    @sebastiantorres2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I just started listening and loving it. Some of the voice shading here is phenomenal. Thanks for sharing obscure but yet amazing recordings such as this one, discovering new approaches to these pieces is what keeps music exciting.

  • @archiesarna-howard460
    @archiesarna-howard460 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    24:40 crazy but so cool and so modern

  • @teodorb.p.composer
    @teodorb.p.composer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am speechless, this is just too superb and astonishing!

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like the first light of dawn, this music opens your eyes to new promises and to all the wonders of nature. Evocative of powers beyond observation, these pieces pull the strings of the heart, attract nostalgia and awaken the loves, the skinned lives and torpor of tormented watchmen

  • @Alkanissimo
    @Alkanissimo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I agree. Eckardstein is a true Medtner champion, by far my favourite night wind!

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@themobiusfunction -- A Colossus! Cheers from Acapulco!

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow there is so much going on, that after four listening i am starting to hear how the first movement sounds like two beautiful piano at the same time.

  • @r.i.p.volodya
    @r.i.p.volodya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoyed this performance very much - so much interesting content.

  • @aken215
    @aken215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with you, it's probably the best performance of this sonata. I finally understand this piece much more.
    Also, I love how he creates a counterpoint at 1:11, as a sort of an response to the preceding melody.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am lucky that this is the first performance of this piece i hear then.

  • @unnamed_boi
    @unnamed_boi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    i can't get enough of 14:39 help

    • @zerois2801
      @zerois2801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      mind blowing

    • @martinsz441
      @martinsz441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes and all following up to 15:30 is just unbelievable. So good.

    • @teodorb.p.composer
      @teodorb.p.composer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's is problem of all of us

    • @AnAppleSlice
      @AnAppleSlice 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And the _Molto giocondamente_ part that follows is so giddying, but all of the ecstasy then suddenly comes crashing down by the abrupt shift to F minor, where the opening motif soon reappears and anticipates the recap of the introductory theme.

  • @ilikeplayingffftonecluster851
    @ilikeplayingffftonecluster851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    ...
    HOLY SHIT

    • @qalaphyll
      @qalaphyll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your expletive is no exaggeration.

  • @PSHEYACOOL
    @PSHEYACOOL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    👏👏👏
    Monster Sonata! In the sense that not every virtuoso will dare to play it! Huge, through polyphonic, full of rhythmic tricks, and even very virtuoso! I think that it is even more difficult than Rachmaninov's sonatas.

    • @duqueadriano0081
      @duqueadriano0081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not harder than the original version of the second one

    • @PSHEYACOOL
      @PSHEYACOOL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duqueadriano0081 I agree.

    • @ucj5421
      @ucj5421 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@duqueadriano0081どっちも弾いたけどNight Windの方がはるかに難しいよ

    • @Jamesphilipjfry
      @Jamesphilipjfry 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@duqueadriano0081 the 1st sonata is still harder

  • @Luca-yg5qx
    @Luca-yg5qx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Whoa this is so good

  • @csdrew22
    @csdrew22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    4:54 - the G on the third beat of this motif has such an ethereal quality to it. This is such a beautiful chord voicing

  • @earthwater9964
    @earthwater9964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...just nuts... crazy... most unusual I've ever heard... wow

  • @ArthratraxIndebted-58
    @ArthratraxIndebted-58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    If you want to experience the true night wind, then have a late dinner consisting of sauerkraut, frankfurters, maybe a pickled egg, and a couple of Pilsener Urquell beers.

  • @GB_99999
    @GB_99999 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:49 6:37 11:24 13:55 19:54 24:29 30:42

  • @markos3940
    @markos3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    21:28

  • @sama.4471
    @sama.4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this the MD&G studio recording? I find myself always completely floored by Eckardstein's Medtner, he just knows exactly how to pull off these difficult pieces for maximum effect - his live Sonata Ballade and Op. 30 as well

  • @norixsynth
    @norixsynth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wanna upload this but no midi
    sad

    • @lucaslorentz
      @lucaslorentz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Make one

    • @norixsynth
      @norixsynth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucaslorentz how sad that I can't make midis at all like Liszthesis themselves :(

    • @XPKpianist
      @XPKpianist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Learn to play the piano, practice 10 hours a day for 10 years and you can record it.

    • @GANIN-wn9dk
      @GANIN-wn9dk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know this is 2 year late but someone did it, some guy uploaded a snyhtesia vid of night wind!!

  • @thierryranger2230
    @thierryranger2230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!! That was incredible, amazing playing. What do you think of Hamelin's version? Also Vos has pretty interesting moments and choices he makes also. They've all got a little something special or different to say which is what's so great about interpretation of a piece :)

    • @pianista-mediocre
      @pianista-mediocre 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hamelin has the second best version. The one in this video is the best

  • @GICM
    @GICM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:18

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:03 wow

  • @csdrew22
    @csdrew22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:53 is there a missing measure here?

  • @patriziavenucci1469
    @patriziavenucci1469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Non plus ultra

  • @frosti6669
    @frosti6669 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG

  • @markos3940
    @markos3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    29:34

    • @frosti6669
      @frosti6669 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, too late :(

  • @FoziCoD
    @FoziCoD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:04-29:14 theses bass

  • @mcig98
    @mcig98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    25:15

  • @W0lfman0
    @W0lfman0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Medtner could go on for days if he wanted to.

  • @j.s.42822
    @j.s.42822 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    30:12 Sonata Minacciosa?

  • @lucaslorentz
    @lucaslorentz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    After eckardstein played it no one learned night wind ...

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean?

    • @lucaslorentz
      @lucaslorentz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SeigneurReefShark cuz the interpretation is so perfect that nobody would try to overcome it

  • @connorrichardson368
    @connorrichardson368 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    section at 25:10 is way too good...

  • @Hameln1
    @Hameln1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this performance is among the best, though i dont like his interpretation at 11:24 19:33 22:46 and 30:20

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This places higher than many of Rachmnaninov compositions and for sure on equal footing.
    I am surprised there is so little interest in Medtner given how much reverence R. gets.

    • @forta7353
      @forta7353 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree, controversial take but Medtner imo is a better writer for solo piano than Rach.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@forta7353 Yes, that said both had their compositional weaknesses, contemporaries they had a lot of respect for each other. I think R. often looses clarity of musical intent in his compositions from excessive patterns and very busy hot fingers all over the keyboard like a bee hive. It looks impressive but makes music almost like a noisy buzz. Also he dilutes themes too much making them very viscous like large puddles of oil. Boring would be a wrong word. Medtner uses to many repeated percussive intervals accompaniement making it sound like shaking a can with nails. Too many notes, it can lead to headache for the listener. But it was the style of the era.

    • @forta7353
      @forta7353 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericastier1646 I agree. Rach was a brilliant composer for both solo piano and orchestra but his musical ideas went deeper in his orchestral works. I disagree with your Medtner take a bit but respect it. His repetitive patterns are always fresh and never out of place imo, but I dont rly understand what ”repetitive interval percussion accompaniment” means😀.To me Medtner is the true russian Chopin.

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@forta7353 It's hard to put in words, Medtner music lacks balance in form not content, such as this piece starts beautifully then we are treated to what sounds like an unending coda with no respite, no lullaby, no rest. Bars take half a page width wide for tens of pages, that is way too many notes for too long. There is not a double note in sight and the 5/4 signature makes this even more overloaded. When Chopin did that it would be between sections of cantabile melodic passages with longer notes. It's as if medtner tries to write as many notes as possible *all the time* . Yet this sonata is still beautiful but it does not breathe and lacks milestones. It's quite tough on the listener even when you like it, it's still tiring to listen.

  • @CziffraTheThird
    @CziffraTheThird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't this supposed to be called Winter Wind?

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What ??

    • @unnamed_boi
      @unnamed_boi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      no

    • @alexs1504
      @alexs1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, it's way better

    • @GICM
      @GICM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no its supposed to be called epic wind

    • @joshvigranmusic
      @joshvigranmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No the Winter Wind is Chopin's etude in A minor, Op. 25 No. 11

  • @Dichweed
    @Dichweed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    29:33 wrong

  • @Tuxster3
    @Tuxster3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The piece says a lot, yet says nothing. Unfortunately, at this point, I'm not a fan of this particular Medtner sonata. I will give it another listen to sometime in the near future.

    • @forta7353
      @forta7353 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you’re looking for substance in it you won’t find it. Turn off your mind and just listen. Music like this isn’t homework.

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Random sludge of notes.

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      What you meant to say was “what a bunch of notes my underdeveloped musical mind can’t understand”

    • @lucasdanconia
      @lucasdanconia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@DynastieArtistiquewhat mind?

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lucasdanconia hahahahaha

    • @luna_zhang
      @luna_zhang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wim jumpscare

  • @markos3940
    @markos3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    28:40

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    15:02

    • @Xyriak
      @Xyriak 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      28:44

    • @Xyriak
      @Xyriak 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4:42

    • @Xyriak
      @Xyriak 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      11:31

    • @Xyriak
      @Xyriak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      24:39

    • @Xyriak
      @Xyriak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      24:40

  • @duqueadriano0081
    @duqueadriano0081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:22

  • @ConcordMass
    @ConcordMass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:32

  • @Alkadondon
    @Alkadondon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:39

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    29:00

  • @FoziCoD
    @FoziCoD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    28:54

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:44