Your 600cc kart was getting a workout, big hit with the Cboys! Vasily you collabed well with the crew, your easy-going hard-working nature and dedicated experience definitely payed off. Keep up the good work👏
@@mrgmc6314 they do in Europe, lots of people do R1 swaps on their raptors and ride on the autobahn in Germany. Quads are street legal in most of Europe.
I'm pretty sure it'll be because of the raptor fuel pump. It needs the R6 one. Other issues could include the airbox delete and the short mufflers which might be leaning out the bike past the ECU's closed loop parameters. ECU might not have the capability to adjust to that extreme, especially if its -10 out. They adjust to cold climates etc.
What I love about it is you're able to keep all the stock plastics and gas tank I see a lot of guys swapping out for whatever bike they got the motor out of gas because the frames hacked up to fit the motor on top instead of underneath.
Airboxes are very important with motorcycles. As soon as you remove the stock airbox, you absolutely require re- jetting, or tuning on fuel injection models! I've had this same issue many times!
Fuel Injected motorcycle don't use “ jets” they use Injectors instead. Hence the name. And its got a computer that will know if something changed and adjust the fuel and air mixture automatically or might have to plug it into a laptop or PC and change the tune on it. Jets are in carburetors and the number one reason why ppl switch to fuel injection is to get away from messing with jets. A fuel injector is kind like a jet but it's able to adjust how much fuel it spray's by what tune is installed on the computer.
I dont think deleting the airbox would cause this issue. The bike has a limited range of parameters to compensate for different climates. Even if it was lean it should still rev out. I didnt pay close attention but I'd say it's the exhaust being too short/not having an 02 sensor. The bike limits rpm as a safety because it cant accurately calculate air to fuel ratios.
It is 100% a bad fuel pump not letting it hit the top of the power band boys! Maybe I could make a trip up there to rip this thing sometime! Awesome job on the build!
It sounded like it was lean and wouldn't rev out under load. It could be a missing a sensor or just needs to be tuned since it now has a short exhaust providing less scavenging and more flow, but I doubt it since EFI is very forgiving in my experience. Maybe test for intake leaks on the throttle bodies and make sure someone didn't cap off a hose they shouldn't? You could also check if it has any codes, it will likely have a couple from things that were removed. California bike's often have extra stuff that can cause problems, like the air injection/PAIR system that could cause this if not capped off properly. Maybe also check that you are getting enough fuel, it looks like you swapped tanks and the pump is usually in the tank. I'm not sure that pump is enough for those injectors. Get a power commander, plug in a laptop, and you should be able to add fuel where it falls flat until it improves. It will also tell you if your TPS sensor is working properly. If it surges, give less fuel there. I've usually been able to get bikes running decent with street tuning, but it will never be perfect without an o2 sensor and a log or rolling road. There should be a tune that you can download to have a better starting point. It looks like it may already has a piggyback tuner under the seat? Be sure to update the firmware.
I agree about the fuel pump not equaling the flow needed.That and the sensors in the exhaust will cause tune default settings.I wondered about Fluid Level sensors too as the engine's leaned forward further.
Stock raptor is 47 hp, r6 is over double that. The factory engineers are not going to use a 100hp capable fuel pump on a 47hp machine, they’ll use something like 70hp capable so it’s not running at maximum effort all the time. I would start by installing a fuel pressure sensor in the rail and logging that data, most likely going to see a pressure drop when it chokes out.
I had a the same exact year model r6. Had the same problem it wouldn’t go over 10k majority of the time. Changed spark plugs and it completely fixed the problem.
Yesssss! I saw cboys talking about it and I'm lucky I found your video because I watch you too. Greatest Collab to ever come to TH-cam. Can't wait for them to destro... I mean use it 😂
I think it is the exhaust , there is reasons that they design the headers the way they do , and by running two cylinders together out each side instead of all four into a collector and then out , I'm thinking that there is NO Back Pressure at all or very little and it is really throwing everything off and not allowing the engine to Rev like it normally would . This is my thoughts on it , but really cool that you guys swapped it 👍 But my money is on the Exhaust being your major problem .
I built zoomies about 10” long on a cbr1000rr just to get it running and it wouldn’t rev and had no top end power, even stumbled on the bottom, finished the exhaust out under the rear fender and ran amazing. I agree with you from experience.
I had a bike bogging on me yesterday just because the connection on the ignition coil wasn't tight enough. I checked the intake, carb, fuel and compression.. just not strong enough spark. Can't wait to see the 2T-R6!
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maybe the cluch lever switch acting up, when you delete it some bike like for example a DRZ you just connect the wires together but an Yamaha MT when you do that it goes to "limp mode"
insane build and dope collab, hope to see this thing get sorted out and running nice, and hope to see yall together in another vid soon, you definitely gotta go back out once the quad is sorted out
It sounded like an ignition issue for sure. Maybe a bad coil? Check the temperature of each exhaust pipe just after where it exits the engine and make sure your not losing fire in a cylinder. Also could be a float if the engine is tipped at all. Might need to clock the carbs somehow to get the bowls to fill properly? Just spitballing... Kick Azz Build!! Going to look up CBOYS and sub!
When I did my r1 raptor build I had to flash tune the ECU with a track tune. It gets rid of all the emissions controls that were deleted in the build. It also helps the ECU cope with some of the sensors being gone. There were also sensors that I had to buy a sensor delete device. It tricks the computer into thinking the sensor is still there but it's not.
I like the fact how they made only one part of the frame removable... when they do a motor rebuild they are gonna have alot of fun taking out the motor
Put a skidplate under that thing. Rock is going to smash that motor hanging down below the frame. The Cboys ride on rocky terrain. You might want to hook it up or tell them to put a skid plate themselves. It won't last very long knowing the way they bash into things. Also, check the fuel pump. Put the fuel pump from the R6. The Raptor fuel pump doesn't have enough PSI is my guess,
I had the rev issue on a gsxr 600. The filter that is built into the fuel pump in the tank was clogged. Wouldnt rev past 11k in gear but rev'd out in N. To replace you had to buy the whole pump but on the gsxr there is a bypass you can drill then install an inline filter. Could have something to do with your pump/tank/ fuel flow
I have a 02 zx6r that im doing a project on as well. Im turning it into a dirt bike. And ive been having the exact same issues, bike wont rev out, or it will when in natural but loses power under load and wont rev past certain rpm
It was running on 3 cylinders possibly 2 ... you can check the manifold by" feel " Basically touch the manifold pipes, if one is less 🔥 burnie on the fingers that's your # cylinder issue
The way I did my CBR600 was to keep the sport bike frame, and just cut the swingarm off and weld on another quad swing arm to it. And then I had a 3wheeler Tri-Z conversion kit-- that is made to convert the 250cc Tri-Z three wheelers into a quad; so I welded that kit to the bike. It turned out awesome, and since I got that bike for nearly free, and most of the parts were free. After riding it for probably 5 years and many trips to the dunes--- the engine was starting to get a little bit tired (even though it was still awesome) -- I could tell that the engine had dropped down to about 95% power-- so I just sold it for $1500, and I was happy to see it go. It was such a fun build, and I'm sure it's still out there somewhere.. I did end up gearing it down quite a bit, so it would only go about 100mph top speed (rather than the 150 that the bike could do on the street).. So that made it launch well if you could keep it from popping wheelies at the dunes. So it would do well against all the 450cc quads, even from launch (it's heavy). But at a rolling start, it would completely smoke nearly all the bikes at the dunes; accept for a few tuned bikes or maybe the racing banshee's.... But from a dead start, it was so heavy that it was hard to get a good launch without popping wheelies; so you really had to get good at riding it well if you had a chance at the shorter drag races. I could have extended the swingarm and solved that problem -- but I liked it better at the standard quad length, so it could do well on the tight trails. I didn't want it to be only a drag bike..... Most trips, it ended up being the bike of choice to pull broken bikes back to the front. People started calling it the "tractor", because I had pulled so many broken bikes back to the front gate. lol... It was low geared enough to have great torque and could pull with relative ease-- but still high geared enough that it could easily do 70mph in 3rd gear (and it was a 6spd) -- it was a great bike, and I do wish I still had it sometimes; because I rode that thing a lot at the dunes with my girl on the back -- which was the only bike/ quad that I've ever seen at the dunes that could legally ride two riders. Good times.
@@VasilyBuilds Yeah.. My buddy loves Tri-Z three wheelers, and he already had 3 of them. Then he finds a fourth one, that has the conversion kit already on it; but when we took it to the dunes, it vibrated the handlebars like crazy, because apparently the three wheeler engines don't have any counter balancer built in (like the LT500 quadzilla does). So he ended up converting it back to a three wheeler and just gave me the conversion kit --- so it all just fell in my lap virtually for free; so I had to build it.
Your 600cc kart was getting a workout, big hit with the Cboys! Vasily you collabed well with the crew, your easy-going hard-working nature and dedicated experience definitely payed off. Keep up the good work👏
Thank you! Im glad
They are looking for a full time guy 🤔
Check the wiring to clutch switch / neutral circuit if theyre not bypassed correctly it can change the rev limit and fuel/ignition map.
@@VasilyBuilds I have a raptor r1 2011 it’s your air flow
These should be made from the factory and made road legal like the dual sport motorcycles
Absolutely, imagine seeing a raptor cruising down the freeway. Great idea
They have reverse trikes and sling shots so why not quads right ???
@@mrgmc6314 they do in Europe, lots of people do R1 swaps on their raptors and ride on the autobahn in Germany. Quads are street legal in most of Europe.
Anything can be road legal with modification
@@levischimann2725 Puerto Rico too
That thing will be sick once you get the tuning sorted out 👍🏽
I'm pretty sure it'll be because of the raptor fuel pump. It needs the R6 one. Other issues could include the airbox delete and the short mufflers which might be leaning out the bike past the ECU's closed loop parameters. ECU might not have the capability to adjust to that extreme, especially if its -10 out. They adjust to cold climates etc.
Yes, fuel pumps are very finicky. I put an 07 GSXR 1000 engine in my 03 GSXR 1000 and it ran like shit til I put the 07 fuel pump in the tank!
Definitely something to do with fueling due to it not reving out under load.
I had the same problem wouldn’t rev up properly and all it was was a electrical problem sorted that and it’s runs mint
Do you also think that it could have something to do with the bike being launched into the air and banging the limiter the whole time?
@@SargentGiraffe Nah. they're designed for high rpm. Engine was fine
What I love about it is you're able to keep all the stock plastics and gas tank I see a lot of guys swapping out for whatever bike they got the motor out of gas because the frames hacked up to fit the motor on top instead of underneath.
Airboxes are very important with motorcycles. As soon as you remove the stock airbox, you absolutely require re- jetting, or tuning on fuel injection models! I've had this same issue many times!
Fuel Injected motorcycle don't use “ jets” they use Injectors instead. Hence the name. And its got a computer that will know if something changed and adjust the fuel and air mixture automatically or might have to plug it into a laptop or PC and change the tune on it. Jets are in carburetors and the number one reason why ppl switch to fuel injection is to get away from messing with jets. A fuel injector is kind like a jet but it's able to adjust how much fuel it spray's by what tune is installed on the computer.
@@magee16749hence why he said or tuning for the computer module for the injector
I dont think deleting the airbox would cause this issue. The bike has a limited range of parameters to compensate for different climates. Even if it was lean it should still rev out.
I didnt pay close attention but I'd say it's the exhaust being too short/not having an 02 sensor. The bike limits rpm as a safety because it cant accurately calculate air to fuel ratios.
@@magee16749 they clearly know that. That's why they said or depending on if you had a carb or fuel injection.
@@magee16749 he literally said that lol
It is 100% a bad fuel pump not letting it hit the top of the power band boys! Maybe I could make a trip up there to rip this thing sometime! Awesome job on the build!
The problem is the raptor 700 fuel system trying to pump the r6
My thought to
Yes for sure swap the r6 fuel pump in and will run right
👆🏻 This right here. I can't imagine the raptor fuel pump is sufficient for an R6.
I was thinking it wasn't getting enough fuel also most street bike swaps are fucked cause of not using the proper fuel pump
I definitely was thinking not enough fuel
That’s badass, only thing I would’ve done differently is made the exhaust a little longer and angled them down facing the rear tires.
Needs a full exhaust to a regular muffler
Yup
Really cool to see you work together with cboys
It's the Raptor fuel pump, it's not enough to feed the R1 fuel injectors. Looks good !
That is if it's a 2003 or later.
You are one of the best builders on youtube among with Ethan from Grindhard! Keep it going champ!
Thanks 🙏🏼
@@VasilyBuilds Collab with GHPCO ?
It sounded like it was lean and wouldn't rev out under load. It could be a missing a sensor or just needs to be tuned since it now has a short exhaust providing less scavenging and more flow, but I doubt it since EFI is very forgiving in my experience. Maybe test for intake leaks on the throttle bodies and make sure someone didn't cap off a hose they shouldn't? You could also check if it has any codes, it will likely have a couple from things that were removed. California bike's often have extra stuff that can cause problems, like the air injection/PAIR system that could cause this if not capped off properly. Maybe also check that you are getting enough fuel, it looks like you swapped tanks and the pump is usually in the tank. I'm not sure that pump is enough for those injectors.
Get a power commander, plug in a laptop, and you should be able to add fuel where it falls flat until it improves. It will also tell you if your TPS sensor is working properly. If it surges, give less fuel there. I've usually been able to get bikes running decent with street tuning, but it will never be perfect without an o2 sensor and a log or rolling road. There should be a tune that you can download to have a better starting point. It looks like it may already has a piggyback tuner under the seat? Be sure to update the firmware.
I agree about the fuel pump not equaling the flow needed.That and the sensors in the exhaust will cause tune default settings.I wondered about Fluid Level sensors too as the engine's leaned forward further.
@@Goatee_yay no its efi
Stock raptor is 47 hp, r6 is over double that. The factory engineers are not going to use a 100hp capable fuel pump on a 47hp machine, they’ll use something like 70hp capable so it’s not running at maximum effort all the time.
I would start by installing a fuel pressure sensor in the rail and logging that data, most likely going to see a pressure drop when it chokes out.
After they sent it to space they are having troubles starting it lol I wonder why 😆🤣
loved the colab with cboys!
This is dope man!
Super stoked to have my 2 favorite TH-cam channels working together
So pumped to see this colab! Been watching both channels for years now, nice work 👍
Great build Vasily from the 600cc to the R6 700cc.
I had a the same exact year model r6. Had the same problem it wouldn’t go over 10k majority of the time. Changed spark plugs and it completely fixed the problem.
Love how chill you are , Even the cboys gott chilled with you❤️ Man u got some superpowers.
Thanks for the cloud spoiler haha
Dude I’m so happy with the collab cause you deserve to have well over a million subs. I think you should rent a shop to do your builds in
WHat a clean swap, every backyard mechanic literally drooled on that.
Thanks!
It's the headers delete. I had a 650 an took off the exhaust. An it wouldn't do over 45mph. Bike tops out at 135 mph.
Yesssss! I saw cboys talking about it and I'm lucky I found your video because I watch you too. Greatest Collab to ever come to TH-cam. Can't wait for them to destro... I mean use it 😂
I think it is the exhaust , there is reasons that they design the headers the way they do , and by running two cylinders together out each side instead of all four into a collector and then out , I'm thinking that there is NO Back Pressure at all or very little and it is really throwing everything off and not allowing the engine to Rev like it normally would . This is my thoughts on it , but really cool that you guys swapped it 👍 But my money is on the Exhaust being your major problem .
I built zoomies about 10” long on a cbr1000rr just to get it running and it wouldn’t rev and had no top end power, even stumbled on the bottom, finished the exhaust out under the rear fender and ran amazing. I agree with you from experience.
I can’t wait for the Cboys to bring this thing out
wonder if it revved to redline right before the swap when they got the wrecked bike started?
Ryan’s been waiting so long for this
This is your best video yet, by FARRRRRRRRRR !
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Thanks for showing us the cboys new quad 💪🏼
Found your videos because of the CBoys videos. You do amazing work, very impressive, keep it up!
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I love seeing the TH-cam stars get togethers. yes I said stars. to me you just reg people that are kinda famous in my eyes. Keep videos coming
Bro Ryan’s quad is a beast now
The next cboys video gonna be lit
Ya that’s why I didn’t use their welder either, glad I brought my own with me when I was there!
exhaust or fuel pump or tuning i bet
Insane build for the Cboys u killed it with this one bro 😎
He's going to end up going home with pierced nipples. 😂😂
@@FarmerFpv 😂😂
glad you're finally getting the recognition you deserve bro!
Back pressure possibly from the exhaust.
I had a bike bogging on me yesterday just because the connection on the ignition coil wasn't tight enough. I checked the intake, carb, fuel and compression.. just not strong enough spark.
Can't wait to see the 2T-R6!
I can already see you hitting a mill subs, keep it up love the content man
Thanks for making this. I can never find videos showing the frame work to get these sport bike engines in quads.
Dude your the best builder on the net….. and I really mean it…. Your a prodigy….. never give up on anything…. Thanks for posting your outstanding videos…… you ROCK….
i’ve been waiting for this vid on there channel
Sweet build! Hope yall can get it tuned properly!
one day i hope to live a life like yours, your projects just amaze me. makes me wonder whats in store for future
maybe the cluch lever switch acting up, when you delete it some bike like for example a DRZ you just connect the wires together but an Yamaha MT when you do that it goes to "limp mode"
insane build and dope collab, hope to see this thing get sorted out and running nice, and hope to see yall together in another vid soon, you definitely gotta go back out once the quad is sorted out
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It sounded like an ignition issue for sure. Maybe a bad coil? Check the temperature of each exhaust pipe just after where it exits the engine and make sure your not losing fire in a cylinder. Also could be a float if the engine is tipped at all. Might need to clock the carbs somehow to get the bowls to fill properly? Just spitballing... Kick Azz Build!! Going to look up CBOYS and sub!
Sooooooo sick I can’t believe I found you years ago and you’re still going hard.🔥🔥
You are a beast 💪🏼
I would change the exhaust
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Hell yeah R6 swapped quad now you got me going I gotta build 1 now
Digital dash should've thrown a code if problem occurred. Sure it's figured out by now. Sweet adventure man!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...
the trouble your having have you checked the fuel pump is working properly if its blocked or its the right pressure for the engine
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Sent to space is an understatement!
When I did my r1 raptor build I had to flash tune the ECU with a track tune. It gets rid of all the emissions controls that were deleted in the build. It also helps the ECU cope with some of the sensors being gone. There were also sensors that I had to buy a sensor delete device. It tricks the computer into thinking the sensor is still there but it's not.
I’ve been waiting for this one
Had to come and comment on this after watching this and the cboystv version
For something they that they said didn't matter if it was to nice, you did a really nice job considering
It sounds rowdy 😂😂😂 amazing build
Thank you for your awesome work with the CBoys. Earned yourself a sub, you helped them so much!
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That's why it's amazing I can't believe you guys made it work
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Don’t know if I wanna watch this before the boys video comes out.. screw it im watching it 😂
It’s absolutely the exhaust.
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Yoo @CboysTV I’ve always wanted one of them , nice build Vasily
If you want your motor to blow up build your exhaust like this
A 2 stroke swapped r6 sounds so cool 😂😂😂 definitely do that
It'll be fine and Fun too.Merry Christmas to All.
I like the fact how they made only one part of the frame removable... when they do a motor rebuild they are gonna have alot of fun taking out the motor
They will just sawzall it.
GREAT VIDSKI BOI MERRY XMAS
this is the new c boys quad they were talking abt
Put a skidplate under that thing. Rock is going to smash that motor hanging down below the frame. The Cboys ride on rocky terrain. You might want to hook it up or tell them to put a skid plate themselves. It won't last very long knowing the way they bash into things. Also, check the fuel pump. Put the fuel pump from the R6. The Raptor fuel pump doesn't have enough PSI is my guess,
There's probably a sensor either missing or not being used properly and the computer isn't let it rev past a certain rpm.
unreal collab
Were putting R1 m Yamaha engines in raptor quads here in UK ,mad man mechanics 👍 try 175 .4 mph on a quad ye ,no fear
I find it weird you don’t see this more, Honda 250L with a 500 in it would be wicked, anyway love this it’s great to see 🤘🤘
Wild! good job man
2 stroke R6 would be nasty!
Seems like a neutral safety issue. Or the Tip over sensor broke when they Sent it
Sick collab!
Let chat ⤴️
no boundaries boys. nbb new channel ideas
LOVE THIS!! ❤️
I had the rev issue on a gsxr 600. The filter that is built into the fuel pump in the tank was clogged. Wouldnt rev past 11k in gear but rev'd out in N. To replace you had to buy the whole pump but on the gsxr there is a bypass you can drill then install an inline filter. Could have something to do with your pump/tank/ fuel flow
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I used to have a Raptor 660 with a GSXR 600 engine in it with drag slicks. It was a pretty fast quad.
Clean the jets?
Check to see if your plug wires are on the correct plugs?
Check Timing?
I have a 02 zx6r that im doing a project on as well. Im turning it into a dirt bike. And ive been having the exact same issues, bike wont rev out, or it will when in natural but loses power under load and wont rev past certain rpm
Sounds like its dropping fuel pressure under load. Maybe check which pump, lines and tank vents you're using and if they can support that engine.
It was running on 3 cylinders possibly 2 ...
you can check the manifold by" feel "
Basically touch the manifold pipes, if one is less 🔥 burnie on the fingers that's your # cylinder issue
Dude i remember when you made your go kart. now you have a whole crew. good lord you grew fast
That's not my crew that's a different channel
@@VasilyBuilds Crap i realized that as i was watching the video. sorry! I enjoyed the content!
It’s the exhaust. 1
110% with out a doubt. I built drag bikes if those motors don’t have the right pipes they’ll never run right.
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You need the airbox
The way I did my CBR600 was to keep the sport bike frame, and just cut the swingarm off and weld on another quad swing arm to it. And then I had a 3wheeler Tri-Z conversion kit-- that is made to convert the 250cc Tri-Z three wheelers into a quad; so I welded that kit to the bike. It turned out awesome, and since I got that bike for nearly free, and most of the parts were free. After riding it for probably 5 years and many trips to the dunes--- the engine was starting to get a little bit tired (even though it was still awesome) -- I could tell that the engine had dropped down to about 95% power-- so I just sold it for $1500, and I was happy to see it go. It was such a fun build, and I'm sure it's still out there somewhere.. I did end up gearing it down quite a bit, so it would only go about 100mph top speed (rather than the 150 that the bike could do on the street).. So that made it launch well if you could keep it from popping wheelies at the dunes. So it would do well against all the 450cc quads, even from launch (it's heavy). But at a rolling start, it would completely smoke nearly all the bikes at the dunes; accept for a few tuned bikes or maybe the racing banshee's.... But from a dead start, it was so heavy that it was hard to get a good launch without popping wheelies; so you really had to get good at riding it well if you had a chance at the shorter drag races. I could have extended the swingarm and solved that problem -- but I liked it better at the standard quad length, so it could do well on the tight trails. I didn't want it to be only a drag bike..... Most trips, it ended up being the bike of choice to pull broken bikes back to the front. People started calling it the "tractor", because I had pulled so many broken bikes back to the front gate. lol... It was low geared enough to have great torque and could pull with relative ease-- but still high geared enough that it could easily do 70mph in 3rd gear (and it was a 6spd) -- it was a great bike, and I do wish I still had it sometimes; because I rode that thing a lot at the dunes with my girl on the back -- which was the only bike/ quad that I've ever seen at the dunes that could legally ride two riders. Good times.
That's very smart! But im sure those conversion kits are pricy !
@@VasilyBuilds Yeah.. My buddy loves Tri-Z three wheelers, and he already had 3 of them. Then he finds a fourth one, that has the conversion kit already on it; but when we took it to the dunes, it vibrated the handlebars like crazy, because apparently the three wheeler engines don't have any counter balancer built in (like the LT500 quadzilla does). So he ended up converting it back to a three wheeler and just gave me the conversion kit --- so it all just fell in my lap virtually for free; so I had to build it.
Great content Merry Christmas
My guess would be the drastic exhaust change. Even just a muffler change requires a rejet (carb) or returne (fi)
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The flying r6 mite have some thing to do with it.
Just needs to be tuned probably imo
Looks like the algorithm gave me a sneak peek at the next cboys video