Two methods to develop a hexagram. Please also visit the 10 part video series "My Key Learning Experiences" by my co-author Carol Anthony: • I Ching, Key Learning ...
The I Ching can best be understood when we consult it because we have a deep need. It replies on the level of our deepest feelings. By contrast, when we only approach it with our intellect, we are on a different wave length, and that is when we find it hard to understand. I hope you find this helpful. - Hanna
Fully agree. In fact, you could open the I Ching book randomly, and when in deep need, still find wise guidance in a random hexagram. That is why having the I Ching in your smartphone as an ebook or an app makes it so handy to receive the guidance from the I Ching in the moment when you are in need
By all means, the ebook or app does not replace the traditional method and ritual, but it is a useful add-on to help face our challenges in the modern world. Thanks Hanna for the clarity in your video!
Finally - I rediscover what I knew 50 years ago and forgot when someone borrowed my I Ching and never returned it. This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
Interestingly enough...I got the same hexagram (32). I used this video to learn how to do a proper reading and for my very first I Ching message- I recieved 32 (Duration). It is of course a very relevant message for me to have received at this time. So serendipitous. I'm really thankful and in awe of the universe and all it's little magical synchronicities.
I am very grateful for the i Ching. To consult it I don't use coins, I just open to book to a random page and take the diagram there. Simple but intuitive for me.
A simpler way to calculate is this without numbers. MINORITY RULES METHOD-> 2 heads 1 tail = Yin -> 2 tails 1 head = Yang -> all 3 same face = moving line or Old Yin and Old Yang.
I found your I Ching books as some of the most clearest explanations in English that I have ever seen. Someone who can really unlock the inner meaning of the 'I'. How can I repay you ever for doing this? Thanks, your books are so clearly explained like muddy water that has been given time to settle, now I can see my face through its side again. Very good work and service.
You can get to the hexagram that way, but you still need to determine, whether any of the six lines is a "changing line" that contains a more specific answer to your question or issue of concern. Every I Ching book contains additional texts pertaining to the changing lines. You can experiment with your one-coin method: to find out whether you are meant to read any of the changing lines, define one side of your coin as yes, the other as No. Then throw the coin again checking each line. Hanna
I quite agree about exploring the relevant meaning. Our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way" contains a unique method of communicating with the Sage, the voice that speaks through the I Ching. With the help of this method the user can put forth hypotheses re the intended message and receive Yes/No answers in the manner of 'warm,' 'hot,' or 'cold,' 'very cold.' Have you tried it out? - Hanna
Funny, was my first time doing it, asked a question and draw and hexagram...got a number with a change in 5th line. Just for fun thought of doing same question twice..Got the same number AGAIN! With no changes, wow.
thank you! I consulted this video when i first bought the book, and revisited it just now to refresh my memory! The book has helped reassure and clarify so many things for me as well as others
You are very correct about the I Ching presentation, I started learning I Ching when I was in high school. Without the guidance of a teacher, it is difficult to understand the mysteries of the Book of Changes. It can be said that: The Book of Changes is a summary of the laws of the universe, and you can ask any questions on it. Fortune-telling is very simple, but how to solve the hexagram image is very difficult.
Basically, yes. One die correctly prepared is all you need. Your die needs to allow for four different possibilities: a straight line, a broken line, a straight line that is marked as a changing line, and a broken line that is marked as a changing line. Since a die has six sides, double the possibilities for receiving a single straight or broken line. Construct the six-lined hexagram by tossing your die once for each line. Hanna
Unfortunately, the sticks are no longer being produced. However, you can use a die instead. It is called a "hexagram die" and can be obtained through our website. Look for: ichingoracle. Hanna
@clickswitchh My advice is to not try to understand it with your mind, but rather see what in the hexagram (or paragraph from a hexagram) that seems particularly relevant (maybe it is only one sentence in a paragraph) and that resonates with you. If you have our book, it describes how you can then investigate further whether you are on the right track in understanding it. Our method allows you to develop a greater understanding.
Also Mike you use three coins to ask "yes or no questions". FOR ME, a light line or _____ = no / yang and a dark / yin line or ___ ___ = yes for yes or no answers. If one is doing this with money coins then a tails is "no" and a heads is "yes". If two of the coins is a "no" and one is a "yes" then the answer is "no" but not a DEFINITE "no" Hence, I ask another question and throw the coins again. If all THREE coins are light/no or dark/yes then this is a definite "yes" or "no".
I am probably missing many things including a few marbles... but yes I am missing all the items in your list. At present I am waiting for my library of books to be shipped to me, which includes a copy of the I Ching translated by Thomas Cleary. However that version is quite bare-bones. I also have a copy translated by James Legge in 1882, which is quite good. That has helped clear up some things, but I will also be getting Hanna or Richard's books as well. Thanks to you & everyone for the help!
@ LordShivasServant I know exactly what I Ching calculator you are talking about. I was introduced to the I Ching 2 years ago the coming December. Being introduced to the I Ching for the first time, many people find stuff like this on the web and think this is the way the I Ching works. I have come to learn that this is not the case. The I Ching is very personally and only for you. Buy the book and let the Sage talk to you. You really will find the the nourishment, caring and love you seek!
It's nothing but probability that determines what message you get. People then interpret what it says in a way that makes it feel personal, but of course, it's not. I guess it could be entertaining though.
Hi, that has been a tradition, until Carol and I learned about a method to clarify the message(s) given by the first hexagram. That method (we call it the Retrospective-Three-Coin Method, or RTCM) is explained in all three books we co-authored. When we have understood those messages well enough, there is no more reason to read the second hexagram. Hanna
I have bought the iching book in the video, and the guide to the iching that accompanies it. And I am finding it to be very insightful, and it seems to be pointing out things that would have otherwise taken me a long time, if ever, to figure out and understand. But the reason I write here now is that I have one hold up with it thus far, and that is the concept of cosmic help. To me it coincides with the difficulty I have with believing in God's help, or any other form of supernatural help..
Thank you very much. It is almost 10 years to the day since this video was posted. It took me a while before I heard the call to re-introduce myself to the practice of the I Ching. I heard about it from reading the lovely book, 'Love, An Inner Connection' years ago. Your video is extremely well done. Thank you, Hanna, for your efforts. Which, btw, how are you doing these days?
It makes me very happy to know that you have found your way back to the I Ching, and felt that my video was helpful. And thank you for asking about me. I am doing fine and am very much enjoying my daily lessons from the Sage! Hanna
@Prodigiousguy8 That's how I ended up at this video too! I read that you will get different results with coins and those Swiss-developed bars than with the original yarrow sticks, due to the decreased odds (1 in 4) of getting a broken(?) line at 1, so the yarrow sticks should be considered the preferred method. Not only because you would get a different hexagram, but also because the time it takes to use the yarrow sticks allows you to meditate on your question.
I don't think I Ching is to grant you wishes to come true. So you don't have to think about your subject when tossing the coins. I Ching is to conduct change when life choices seem to get to a standstill or at a moment of choice which you don't seem to know what to choose. At those times it is good to consult the I Ching to stir up change and a new direction. Now that direction may or may not be good, but at least if it's a bad change you know after that what change to take instead, so it would be a butterfly effect of changes. I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins or even 50 yarrow sticks in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
I couldn't see myself operating the yarrow sticks. It's very playful though, I'm sure they bring a lot of magic to it. Thanks for this, I've been wanting to learn for months, only ever used the computer I Ching calculator on Eclectic Energies - it's amazing stuff.
Hello, LordShivasServant, I appreciate your comment. The Cosmic Way has nothing to do with magic, rather it is the normal way by which the Cosmic Consciousness does things. You'll understand this better when you use our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way," in which the Cosmic Principles of Harmony are described in each hexagram. Greetings, Hanna
I just wanted to inform you that if you go to amazon.com it will be an American site and some may not ship internationally. I do not know what the abbreviation is for Sweden. For example, if you live in German you have to go to Amazon.de . So, go to the site closest to you.
I am not familiar with that book, but I do know that the I Ching works when you consult it from a real need. Why don't you try it out and see how it relates to your personal need? - Hanna
Mike as somebody new to the I-Ching, let ME try to help guide you. You are missing ONE of 5 things. Pick the best answer. 1/ the definitive book on the I-Ching by Richard Wihelm 2/ Hanna Moog's book 3/ a library card 4/ time to learn and digest all of the above 5/ all of the above namaste
Hi there, there is no pre-determined value attributed to either side of the coin. You can define that for yourself. The main thing is that you then stick with your definition. Hanna
The problem with the three-coin method is that it does approximate the same odds as the original yarrow stalk method. For example, getting a old yin does not have the same probablity as, say, young yin. Someone clever devised a two-coin method that comes much closer, and is described here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_divination#Two-coin_method
Thank you for this video; I bought an I Ching book but I found some aspects of the instructions to be a bit unclear, so it was useful to see a demonstration here. Just one question: if you use the sticks, aren't the probabilities of drawing the equivalent of a 7 or a 9 via the coin throwing method different? As they had four sides you'd have a one in four chance of getting a moving dark line, for example, but with the coins there would only be a one in eight chance of this happening, meaning that the chances of you getting a moving line would be significantly increased.
Thank you for your question. All considerations about probability are of a purely mental nature and do not really come from a true understanding of the nature of the oracle. The Cosmic Chance Manager can give us the hexagram and changing lines that contain the message(s) intended for us at that moment, no matter which of the means you mentioned we use. Hanna
I was never a spiritual person, but I read Philip Dick's The Man in The High Castle, which frequently mentioned the I Ching. I find it very intriguing, and I wish to see if this really works.
In you book, I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, in the glossary (under Helpers) on page 567, there is a reference to page 682 which does not exist. The reference should be to page 535.
We call them dark and light lines because they represent the two Cosmic forces, which through their interplay create transformations. They are also known as YIN/YANG. The words "broken" and "unbroken" don't tell us about their nature; they belong in a mechanical language. Hanna
I am sorry you are having such difficulties. You can also order the book directly from the publisher and have it sent to Sweden. Go to the publisher's website by googling Anthony Publishing Company
The I Ching, as we, C.Anthony and I, understand it, shows us the Cosmos as a self-correcting system of harmonious principles. When we violate them by creating ideas that are not in harmony, we create a fate, either individually or collectively. The fate has multiple purposes: to bring us back to our senses, and back to earth and give us the opportunity to reflect on our mistaken thinking. (See Hexagram 51, Shock.) Fate protects the harmonious Cosmic order like an invisible brick wall.
@hannamoog Thank You for your explanation Hanna. I will have to carry on with an open mind, and not seek to point blame at any one thing. To learn what can be learned from personal involvement with the I Ching is something that should be considered by everyone. The wisdom contained in this book is very real, I have no doubt about that. Thank you for creating it.
@ALEKHINE1927 It cannot be the subject of a ten minute video to explain in detail what is involved when we consult the I Ching. What I demonstrated was the technical aspect of how to obtain an answer. As to the various relationships between hexagrams and trigrams I, personally, would not put the emphasis on that aspect. What counts for me is a sincere desire to understand the I Ching's message. No moving lines? If you post this question again, I will have more space to reply. - Hanna
The Iching online has been producing readings that say I'm a person that travels from state to state. I'm a nurse who has had residency in the state of Michigan, survived domestic abuse by moving locations. I've been nominated for city awards. I truly think the Iching online is errored. How you consult it does not matter when what it's saying is false
There is not just one single version of the I Ching. You need to use a trustworthy version like, for example, the book I am presenting in this video. If you need an easier version, I would recommend "A Guide to the I Ching" by Carol K. Anthony. Hanna Moog
Hello, every time I land on a 9 ( three heads ) I make a -- -- from -----* but when I read in my I-ching book by wilhelm/baynes it reads as a Six for the changing line... For example, the bottom trigram is K'an and the top Chen. The only changing line is the last line, which when I toss my coins comes out to a 9 or -----*. The hexagram is Hsieh/ Deliverance, and the last line reads as: Six at top means: The prince shoots at a hawk on a high wall. He kills it. Everything serves to further. I have been having this issue with the line reading... It seems to be vice verse for every line. As if I am not writing down the right lines... Ive looked else where to see if the changing lines differ but everyone says that all tails or all 2 is -- --* changing into ------ and all heads or all 3 is -----* changing into -- --... This is only the confusing thing since in the book the changing lines dont seem to be corresponding with the line readings.. Please help if possible, Thank you.
Seeing as this was for instructional purposes only then I wish that you have falsified a 6 or a 9 with the coins so that I can see what to do, because I don't know That's why I came
Thank you... 🌻how fascinating did my first reading im moving and getting rid of things i love and it said no disgrace in getting rid of your assets. It will help set me free! 41
Thank you for this video! Can you give some details on those sticks? Where to get a set? Or, if they're custom, can you provide the dimensions of them? Length, width, etc? Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! The sticks are 7" long and 1/4" thick. They are no longer offered on the market. I can give you more details re the distribution of the markings, if you contact me through our website at ichingoracle (dot)com.
Thank you so much for this. Every one else seems to have forgotton the fundamental method of teaching from the beginning. I just wanted to know how you got to decide about the trigram - was it a painting, a 64 sided dice, a pack of cards? I got my answer here - at last!
Would it be acceptable to build a hexagram in the following way? Flip 6 coins in a row and assign a light line to heads and a dark line to tails. Or is there something indispensable about using the mathematical formulae you described at first? I don't understand how the lines indicating transformation apply to the reading, so perhaps I'm missing something. I am new to the I Ching so I'm sorry if these are basic questions.
I have 10 6 sided dice with the first 6 Trigrams 1: ☰ Heaven (Qian) 2: ☷ Earth (Kun) 3: ☵ Water (Kan) 4: ☲ Fire (Li) 5: ☳ Thunder (Zhen) 6: ☴ Wind/Wood (Xun) on it, since its not 8 sided im missing ☶ Mountain (Gen) ☱ Lake (Dui) are these dice worthless or is there something i can do with them?
Hi Mark. Some authors define the two sides the other way around. That is also fine. The main thing is that you make a choice which author you want to follow, and then stick with the definition you have chosen. Hanna
@@Dmtcadet Good question. You need to make your choice before tossing the coins. The voice that speaks to you through the I Ching takes into account which system you have chosen to use. It will use that system to give you the hexagram you need. Hanna
I know this might be hard to know or remember, but where can you buy those sticks? I really like the size and look of the ones in the video. Thank you!
We no longer offer these sticks. But you can get something similar as part of a set with a book, if you go to amazon and search for I-ching-frits-blok. I have not seen the book or the sticks. Someone else sent me this hint.
Hanna, I am watching your video again and I notice I have the same question as I did a year ago, which is funny! But how do you know light from dark lines? Is it based on odd and even numbers? I remember you responding but have cleared my old emails. Be great to hear back. Thank you.
A light line is an unbroken line. If you use three coins to toss a line, and you attribute the value 3 to the "head" side, you have received a light line when your total count is either 7 or 9. If it is 7, you have received a light line that is not changing. If you have received a 9, it's a light line that is changing. Best, Hanna
There is no right or wrong. You can determine for yourself which one of the two possibilities you want to use. The main thing is that you then stick with it. Hanna
Literally binary. One could 0 and 1 to write the hexagrams. 🧐 010011 (chosen randomly) interpreted as Lower(bottom,middle,top), Upper(bottom,middle,top), with 0 the dark line is hexagram 59 = Huan (Dispersion)
GREAT tutorial! I do have a question about what to do after a hexagram is drawn, are you supposed to keep flipping the coins and asking yes or no questions based on the result of the flip? Or in other words, is there any specified way you're supposed to converse with the I ching post Hexagram. At times i feel i am being told a message through the responses, but sometimes my brain says its luck. Or that my questions are not being understood. I have received lines that tell me i come asking the wrong initial questions and that i fuel my ego, but does this also reflect on the post hexagram dialogue? All the best
Thanks for your comment. The Yes/No method, or RTCM is meant to help you communicate with the Sage in order to clarify its message to you. When your brain says it's luck, it means you are systematically doubting the answers. The presence of such doubts makes it impossible for the Sage to converse with you, which then gives rise to more doubts. To break that negative dynamic, picture your doubts as an axe (doubts split the wholeness of our true feelings). Then picture tying that axe to the strong fresh sprouts of a tree that has been cut down (=split). Doing so is the equivalent of turning your doubts over to the Helper of Nature that keeps them under control until the sprouts have grown into strong trees. (Also see Line 6 of Hexagram 12.)
Hanna Moog hey Hanna, quick question. Is it bad practice to consult the oracle multiple times in one day? And if no, do I need to draw another hexagram or is it a continuation of the yes/no method from the first session. Thank u again
@@Cardninja52 Yes, you can overuse it, which usually happens when you don't understand the message received in the first hexagram you drew that day. If you don't know what questions to ask to clarify the text received, you can ask the Sage to bring to mind the next question. In this way, you avoid asking questions coming from the ego.
Hanna Moog i decided not to do a second reading last night and waited until the morning. When I presented the question to the oracle I received hexagram 55 which talks about abundance. This mentions what You are suggesting about avoiding questions from the ego. And i concluded I need to separate those questions in order to properly understand the lesson
You can look up Carol K Anthony or Hanna Moog on your browser. It will guide you to our website, Otherwise, you can order it from Amazon. The title is: I Ching, Oracle of the Cosmic Way. Thank you for your interest.
It is said that Leibniz had have invented binaries systems, and suddenly he was startled to see the Book of changes in China. The Chinese people have invented the original binary systems. But the Chinese invented binary systems not for mathematical calculation but for divination and prediction of the future.
Do all the sticks have dots on them or just a few? I am trying to figure out how the sticks work. It seems there is an equal amount of solid and broken lines on each stick but I was not sure if only two sticks had moving lines sides or all of them did. Thank you.
The set of six sticks needs to be divided into two sets of three sticks, and marked as follows: Both sets have three sides the same as follows: side 1: two straight lines; side 2: two broken lines; side 3: one broken line with a dot changing into a straight line. The fourth side on set 1: two broken lines The fourth side on set 2: two straight lines
Hi Hanna, it seems the book I have by R. L. Wing teaches the opposite sums as you. For example 2 heads and a tails equaling a straight line and two tails and a heads equaling a broken(dark) line. Do you know which is the original method or teaching on this? Thank you
It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you decide which side you want to define as value 2 and which as value 3. And then stick with it.
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The I Ching can best be understood when we consult it because we have a deep need. It replies on the level of our deepest feelings. By contrast, when we only approach it with our intellect, we are on a different wave length, and that is when we find it hard to understand.
I hope you find this helpful. - Hanna
Fully agree. In fact, you could open the I Ching book randomly, and when in deep need, still find wise guidance in a random hexagram. That is why having the I Ching in your smartphone as an ebook or an app makes it so handy to receive the guidance from the I Ching in the moment when you are in need
By all means, the ebook or app does not replace the traditional method and ritual, but it is a useful add-on to help face our challenges in the modern world. Thanks Hanna for the clarity in your video!
Finally - I rediscover what I knew 50 years ago and forgot when someone borrowed my I Ching and never returned it. This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
Interestingly enough...I got the same hexagram (32). I used this video to learn how to do a proper reading and for my very first I Ching message- I recieved 32 (Duration). It is of course a very relevant message for me to have received at this time. So serendipitous. I'm really thankful and in awe of the universe and all it's little magical synchronicities.
I am very grateful for the i Ching. To consult it I don't use coins, I just open to book to a random page and take the diagram there. Simple but intuitive for me.
Bibliomancy :)
@@nataliaturner4845 Hopefully not bibliolatry. 😉
Is it truly random, though? I would think you'll be heavily biased to the middle range, never getting a 1 nor a 64.
Yes. Albeit, bibliomancy with the I Ching produces diminishing returns.
A simpler way to calculate is this without numbers. MINORITY RULES METHOD-> 2 heads 1 tail = Yin -> 2 tails 1 head = Yang -> all 3 same face = moving line or Old Yin and Old Yang.
I found your I Ching books as some of the most clearest explanations in English that I have ever seen. Someone who can really unlock the inner meaning of the 'I'. How can I repay you ever for doing this? Thanks, your books are so clearly explained like muddy water that has been given time to settle, now I can see my face through its side again. Very good work and service.
This is a great video! I started reading "Man in the High Castle" and Frank Frink uses this method in chapter one. Now I understand!
Hey, I found out about this book from Philip K Dick too, I use it almost every day now :)
You can get to the hexagram that way, but you still need to determine, whether any of the six lines is a "changing line" that contains a more specific answer to your question or issue of concern. Every I Ching book contains additional texts pertaining to the changing lines. You can experiment with your one-coin method: to find out whether you are meant to read any of the changing lines, define one side of your coin as yes, the other as No. Then throw the coin again checking each line. Hanna
Thank you for your exuberant feedback, Georgina. I feel very humbled by it. Hanna
I quite agree about exploring the relevant meaning. Our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way" contains a unique method of communicating with the Sage, the voice that speaks through the I Ching. With the help of this method the user can put forth hypotheses re the intended message and receive Yes/No answers in the manner of 'warm,' 'hot,' or 'cold,' 'very cold.' Have you tried it out? - Hanna
Funny, was my first time doing it, asked a question and draw and hexagram...got a number with a change in 5th line. Just for fun thought of doing same question twice..Got the same number AGAIN! With no changes, wow.
Hi Diana, it looks like you were given the message to REALLY PAY ATTENTION to what that hexagram wants you to understand! Hanna
thank you! I consulted this video when i first bought the book, and revisited it just now to refresh my memory! The book has helped reassure and clarify so many things for me as well as others
You are very correct about the I Ching presentation, I started learning I Ching when I was in high school. Without the guidance of a teacher, it is difficult to understand the mysteries of the Book of Changes. It can be said that: The Book of Changes is a summary of the laws of the universe, and you can ask any questions on it. Fortune-telling is very simple, but how to solve the hexagram image is very difficult.
Kudos to the Swiss gentleman who invented those sticks! Brilliant!
The sticks are statistically more likely than the coins to give “transformation” signals…
The correct way is to start at the bottom. Think of building a house - you start with building the foundation. Hanna
Basically, yes. One die correctly prepared is all you need. Your die needs to allow for four different possibilities: a straight line, a broken line, a straight line that is marked as a changing line, and a broken line that is marked as a changing line. Since a die has six sides, double the possibilities for receiving a single straight or broken line. Construct the six-lined hexagram by tossing your die once for each line. Hanna
Unfortunately, the sticks are no longer being produced. However, you can use a die instead. It is called a "hexagram die" and can be obtained through our website. Look for: ichingoracle. Hanna
@clickswitchh
My advice is to not try to understand it with your mind, but rather see what in the hexagram (or paragraph from a hexagram) that seems particularly relevant (maybe it is only one sentence in a paragraph) and that resonates with you. If you have our book, it describes how you can then investigate further whether you are on the right track in understanding it. Our method allows you to develop a greater understanding.
Thank you Hanna. Now I know what "A Nine in the fourth place" means.
Also Mike you use three coins to ask "yes or no questions".
FOR ME, a light line or _____ = no / yang and a dark / yin line or ___ ___ = yes for yes or no answers. If one is doing this with money coins then a tails is "no" and a heads is "yes".
If two of the coins is a "no" and one is a "yes" then the answer is "no" but not a DEFINITE "no" Hence, I ask another question and throw the coins again. If all THREE coins are light/no or dark/yes then this is a definite "yes" or "no".
I am probably missing many things including a few marbles... but yes I am missing all the items in your list. At present I am waiting for my library of books to be shipped to me, which includes a copy of the I Ching translated by Thomas Cleary. However that version is quite bare-bones.
I also have a copy translated by James Legge in 1882, which is quite good. That has helped clear up some things, but I will also be getting Hanna or Richard's books as well. Thanks to you & everyone for the help!
@ LordShivasServant I know exactly what I Ching calculator you are talking about. I was introduced to the I Ching 2 years ago the coming December. Being introduced to the I Ching for the first time, many people find stuff like this on the web and think this is the way the I Ching works. I have come to learn that this is not the case. The I Ching is very personally and only for you. Buy the book and let the Sage talk to you. You really will find the the nourishment, caring and love you seek!
It's nothing but probability that determines what message you get. People then interpret what it says in a way that makes it feel personal, but of course, it's not. I guess it could be entertaining though.
Thank you, too, Lai185. Now it's all about applying the I Ching to your life! Hanna
Hi, that has been a tradition, until Carol and I learned about a method to clarify the message(s) given by the first hexagram. That method (we call it the Retrospective-Three-Coin Method, or RTCM) is explained in all three books we co-authored. When we have understood those messages well enough, there is no more reason to read the second hexagram. Hanna
I have bought the iching book in the video, and the guide to the iching that accompanies it. And I am finding it to be very insightful, and it seems to be pointing out things that would have otherwise taken me a long time, if ever, to figure out and understand. But the reason I write here now is that I have one hold up with it thus far, and that is the concept of cosmic help. To me it coincides with the difficulty I have with believing in God's help, or any other form of supernatural help..
Hi! This my first oracle consultance. I got exactly the same symbol, duration. The chances were 0.02% to obtain it.
Yes, it's not unusual to obtain the same hexagram two consecutive times. It could happend even 3 or 4 times.
hmm, it's almost identical to Ifa in principal, annotation and execution... Very interesting!
Great explanation. Very easy to understand. 🙏❤️
Thank you very much. It is almost 10 years to the day since this video was posted. It took me a while before I heard the call to re-introduce myself to the practice of the I Ching. I heard about it from reading the lovely book, 'Love, An Inner Connection' years ago. Your video is extremely well done. Thank you, Hanna, for your efforts. Which, btw, how are you doing these days?
It makes me very happy to know that you have found your way back to the I Ching, and felt that my video was helpful. And thank you for asking about me. I am doing fine and am very much enjoying my daily lessons from the Sage! Hanna
@Prodigiousguy8 That's how I ended up at this video too! I read that you will get different results with coins and those Swiss-developed bars than with the original yarrow sticks, due to the decreased odds (1 in 4) of getting a broken(?) line at 1, so the yarrow sticks should be considered the preferred method. Not only because you would get a different hexagram, but also because the time it takes to use the yarrow sticks allows you to meditate on your question.
I don't think I Ching is to grant you wishes to come true. So you don't have to think about your subject when tossing the coins. I Ching is to conduct change when life choices seem to get to a standstill or at a moment of choice which you don't seem to know what to choose. At those times it is good to consult the I Ching to stir up change and a new direction. Now that direction may or may not be good, but at least if it's a bad change you know after that what change to take instead, so it would be a butterfly effect of changes. I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins or even 50 yarrow sticks in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
I couldn't see myself operating the yarrow sticks. It's very playful though, I'm sure they bring a lot of magic to it.
Thanks for this, I've been wanting to learn for months, only ever used the computer I Ching calculator on Eclectic Energies - it's amazing stuff.
Hello, LordShivasServant, I appreciate your comment. The Cosmic Way has nothing to do with magic, rather it is the normal way by which the Cosmic Consciousness does things. You'll understand this better when you use our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way," in which the Cosmic Principles of Harmony are described in each hexagram. Greetings, Hanna
I just wanted to inform you that if you go to amazon.com it will be an American site and some may not ship internationally. I do not know what the abbreviation is for Sweden. For example, if you live in German you have to go to Amazon.de . So, go to the site closest to you.
This video works nicely at 1.25 speed. 'Great information. Thanks!
I am not familiar with that book, but I do know that the I Ching works when you consult it from a real need. Why don't you try it out and see how it relates to your personal need? - Hanna
Mike as somebody new to the I-Ching, let ME try to help guide you.
You are missing ONE of 5 things.
Pick the best answer.
1/ the definitive book on the I-Ching by Richard Wihelm
2/ Hanna Moog's book
3/ a library card
4/ time to learn and digest all of the above
5/ all of the above
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Hi there,
there is no pre-determined value attributed to either side of the coin. You can define that for yourself. The main thing is that you then stick with your definition. Hanna
The problem with the three-coin method is that it does approximate the same odds as the original yarrow stalk method. For example, getting a old yin does not have the same probablity as, say, young yin. Someone clever devised a two-coin method that comes much closer, and is described here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_divination#Two-coin_method
Andrew Dugas You mean, I think, "is that it does NOT approximate the same odds".
Excellent! Thank you, you are very inspiring to listen to.
They used to sell small books that said iching on it I was pretty good at doing that I done that myself I wouldn't mind learning back how to do it
Hi Heidi. I am not familiar with the kind of books you are referring to. Sorry. Hanna
Thank you for this video; I bought an I Ching book but I found some aspects of the instructions to be a bit unclear, so it was useful to see a demonstration here.
Just one question: if you use the sticks, aren't the probabilities of drawing the equivalent of a 7 or a 9 via the coin throwing method different? As they had four sides you'd have a one in four chance of getting a moving dark line, for example, but with the coins there would only be a one in eight chance of this happening, meaning that the chances of you getting a moving line would be significantly increased.
Thank you for your question. All considerations about probability are of a purely mental nature and do not really come from a true understanding of the nature of the oracle. The Cosmic Chance Manager can give us the hexagram and changing lines that contain the message(s) intended for us at that moment, no matter which of the means you mentioned we use. Hanna
Thank you I really appreciate that
I was never a spiritual person, but I read Philip Dick's The Man in The High Castle, which frequently mentioned the I Ching. I find it very intriguing, and I wish to see if this really works.
In you book, I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, in the glossary (under Helpers) on page 567, there is a reference to page 682 which does not exist. The reference should be to page 535.
Sorry about that glitch. The page number refers to the first edition, we failed to correct it. Hanna
Very well explained
Why do
you call them dark and light lines instead of broken and unbroken?
We call them dark and light lines because they represent the two Cosmic forces, which through their interplay create transformations. They are also known as YIN/YANG. The words "broken" and "unbroken" don't tell us about their nature; they belong in a mechanical language. Hanna
Or yin and yang
0/1
I am sorry you are having such difficulties. You can also order the book directly from the publisher and have it sent to Sweden. Go to the publisher's website by googling Anthony Publishing Company
Best explination i have got on youtube, thank you
The I Ching, as we, C.Anthony and I, understand it, shows us the Cosmos as a self-correcting system of harmonious principles. When we violate them by creating ideas that are not in harmony, we create a fate, either individually or collectively. The fate has multiple purposes: to bring us back to our senses, and back to earth and give us the opportunity to reflect on our mistaken thinking. (See Hexagram 51, Shock.) Fate protects the harmonious Cosmic order like an invisible brick wall.
Hanna.
it's the easier way to predict,not the original way .the original way uses "shi cao"(achillea sibirca).
the method of using coins first was found in"huo zhu lin"(火珠林)
Yes, the methods for obtaining a hexagram have evolved over the centuries. Hanna
Thank you, Jorge. Hanna
@hannamoog Thank You for your explanation Hanna. I will have to carry on with an open mind, and not seek to point blame at any one thing. To learn what can be learned from personal involvement with the I Ching is something that should be considered by everyone. The wisdom contained in this book is very real, I have no doubt about that. Thank you for creating it.
@ALEKHINE1927 It cannot be the subject of a ten minute video to explain in detail what is involved when we consult the I Ching. What I demonstrated was the technical aspect of how to obtain an answer. As to the various relationships between hexagrams and trigrams I, personally, would not put the emphasis on that aspect. What counts for me is a sincere desire to understand the I Ching's message. No moving lines? If you post this question again, I will have more space to reply. - Hanna
The Iching online has been producing readings that say I'm a person that travels from state to state. I'm a nurse who has had residency in the state of Michigan, survived domestic abuse by moving locations. I've been nominated for city awards. I truly think the Iching online is errored. How you consult it does not matter when what it's saying is false
There is not just one single version of the I Ching. You need to use a trustworthy version like, for example, the book I am presenting in this video. If you need an easier version, I would recommend "A Guide to the I Ching" by Carol K. Anthony. Hanna Moog
Thank you very much ma'am. See how simple that was Mr. Mackenzie?
Absolutely it is simple for understanding, but there is something wrong when you calculate the probability....
How so? I’m genuinely curious to see your assessment
Hello, every time I land on a 9 ( three heads ) I make a -- -- from -----* but when I read in my I-ching book by wilhelm/baynes it reads as a Six for the changing line... For example, the bottom trigram is K'an and the top Chen. The only changing line is the last line, which when I toss my coins comes out to a 9 or -----*. The hexagram is Hsieh/ Deliverance, and the last line reads as: Six at top means: The prince shoots at a hawk on a high wall. He kills it. Everything serves to further. I have been having this issue with the line reading... It seems to be vice verse for every line. As if I am not writing down the right lines... Ive looked else where to see if the changing lines differ but everyone says that all tails or all 2 is -- --* changing into ------ and all heads or all 3 is -----* changing into -- --... This is only the confusing thing since in the book the changing lines dont seem to be corresponding with the line readings.. Please help if possible, Thank you.
Seeing as this was for instructional purposes only then I wish that you have falsified a 6 or a 9 with the coins so that I can see what to do, because I don't know That's why I came
Tommie Green at minute 3:30 I believe
Thank you Hanna for posting this, it is so helpful. Where would one obtain these sticks by chance?
We also no longer offer these sticks. We only know that you can find something similar on Amazon. Search for: I-Ching-Frits-blok. Best regards, Hanna.
The sticks have a different probability than the coins.
Thank you... 🌻how fascinating did my first reading im moving and getting rid of things i love and it said no disgrace in getting rid of your assets. It will help set me free! 41
Thank you! I love those sticks!!
Unfortunately, we have stopped producing them. We now use I Ching dice or our own design. You can see them on our website.
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@@danilc9654 Do you have English version, thanks
Thank you for this video! Can you give some details on those sticks? Where to get a set? Or, if they're custom, can you provide the dimensions of them? Length, width, etc?
Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! The sticks are 7" long and 1/4" thick. They are no longer offered on the market. I can give you more details re the distribution of the markings, if you contact me through our website at ichingoracle (dot)com.
Thank you so much for this. Every one else seems to have forgotton the fundamental method of teaching from the beginning. I just wanted to know how you got to decide about the trigram - was it a painting, a 64 sided dice, a pack of cards? I got my answer here - at last!
everyone?
Great!!!!!!I LOVE IT!!THANKS FOR SHARING
Would it be acceptable to build a hexagram in the following way?
Flip 6 coins in a row and assign a light line to heads and a dark line to tails.
Or is there something indispensable about using the mathematical formulae you described at first? I don't understand how the lines indicating transformation apply to the reading, so perhaps I'm missing something.
I am new to the I Ching so I'm sorry if these are basic questions.
I have 10 6 sided dice with the first 6 Trigrams
1: ☰ Heaven (Qian)
2: ☷ Earth (Kun)
3: ☵ Water (Kan)
4: ☲ Fire (Li)
5: ☳ Thunder (Zhen)
6: ☴ Wind/Wood (Xun) on it, since its not 8 sided im missing
☶ Mountain (Gen)
☱ Lake (Dui)
are these dice worthless or is there something i can do with them?
Very helpful. Thank you
You can buy it at amazon.com
Thank you so much !
Thank you ❤️
Now can you also start drawing the lines from top to bottom, or does it HAVE to be bottom to top?
Ok mamm thanku so much
You ask your question once before you start tossing. Hanna
The version of the I Ching I have is by Margaret Thompson and in it it says heads is 2 and tails is 3, can somebody explain
Hi Mark. Some authors define the two sides the other way around. That is also fine. The main thing is that you make a choice which author you want to follow, and then stick with the definition you have chosen. Hanna
Hanna Moog wouldn’t this change what hexagram I get?
@@Dmtcadet Good question. You need to make your choice before tossing the coins. The voice that speaks to you through the I Ching takes into account which system you have chosen to use. It will use that system to give you the hexagram you need. Hanna
I know this might be hard to know or remember, but where can you buy those sticks? I really like the size and look of the ones in the video. Thank you!
We no longer offer these sticks. But you can get something similar as part of a set with a book, if you go to amazon and search for I-ching-frits-blok. I have not seen the book or the sticks. Someone else sent me this hint.
@@hannamoog thank you for the help!
Hanna, I am watching your video again and I notice I have the same question as I did a year ago, which is funny! But how do you know light from dark lines? Is it based on odd and even numbers? I remember you responding but have cleared my old emails. Be great to hear back. Thank you.
A light line is an unbroken line. If you use three coins to toss a line, and you attribute the value 3 to the "head" side, you have received a light line when your total count is either 7 or 9. If it is 7, you have received a light line that is not changing. If you have received a 9, it's a light line that is changing. Best, Hanna
in my book the I ching companion, the value is reversed, for heads being 2 & tails being 3. who is right???
There is no right or wrong. You can determine for yourself which one of the two possibilities you want to use. The main thing is that you then stick with it. Hanna
you mention a Dominique "Vaulais" ? for the sticks? could you not put the details in the description, please?
His name is Dominique Rollé. I am not sure what you mean by "not putting the details in the description. ??? Hanna
Thank you
Happy 2023 Hanna! Curious if those hexagram sticks are available for purchase. Thank you :))
We no longer offer these sticks. We only know that you can find something similar on Amazon. Search for: I-Ching-Frits-blok. Best regards, Hanna.
Very interesting 👌
Literally binary. One could 0 and 1 to write the hexagrams. 🧐 010011 (chosen randomly) interpreted as Lower(bottom,middle,top), Upper(bottom,middle,top), with 0 the dark line is hexagram 59 = Huan (Dispersion)
You didn’t talk about the changing line or what that means! Everything else is straightforward.
In the video I have talked about changing lines. (See at 3.11 min.)
GREAT tutorial! I do have a question about what to do after a hexagram is drawn, are you supposed to keep flipping the coins and asking yes or no questions based on the result of the flip? Or in other words, is there any specified way you're supposed to converse with the I ching post Hexagram. At times i feel i am being told a message through the responses, but sometimes my brain says its luck. Or that my questions are not being understood. I have received lines that tell me i come asking the wrong initial questions and that i fuel my ego, but does this also reflect on the post hexagram dialogue? All the best
Thanks for your comment. The Yes/No method, or RTCM is meant to help you communicate with the Sage in order to clarify its message to you. When your brain says it's luck, it means you are systematically doubting the answers. The presence of such doubts makes it impossible for the Sage to converse with you, which then gives rise to more doubts. To break that negative dynamic, picture your doubts as an axe (doubts split the wholeness of our true feelings). Then picture tying that axe to the strong fresh sprouts of a tree that has been cut down (=split). Doing so is the equivalent of turning your doubts over to the Helper of Nature that keeps them under control until the sprouts have grown into strong trees. (Also see Line 6 of Hexagram 12.)
Hanna Moog, once again a beautiful and timely explanation. Thank you for the guidance, this will enhance my experiences for sure. Namaste
Hanna Moog hey Hanna, quick question. Is it bad practice to consult the oracle multiple times in one day? And if no, do I need to draw another hexagram or is it a continuation of the yes/no method from the first session. Thank u again
@@Cardninja52 Yes, you can overuse it, which usually happens when you don't understand the message received in the first hexagram you drew that day. If you don't know what questions to ask to clarify the text received, you can ask the Sage to bring to mind the next question. In this way, you avoid asking questions coming from the ego.
Hanna Moog i decided not to do a second reading last night and waited until the morning. When I presented the question to the oracle I received hexagram 55 which talks about abundance.
This mentions what You are suggesting about avoiding questions from the ego. And i concluded I need to separate those questions in order to properly understand the lesson
You can look up Carol K Anthony or Hanna Moog on your browser. It will guide you to our website, Otherwise, you can order it from Amazon. The title is: I Ching, Oracle of the Cosmic Way. Thank you for your interest.
hi Hanna, thanks for the vid'. should i consider the new hexagram denoted by the transforming lines?
This book was so costly on Amazon if if you have any copy of this book please send me
"The itching" 😆😭
It is said that Leibniz had have invented binaries systems, and suddenly he was startled to see the Book of changes in China. The Chinese people have invented the original binary systems. But the Chinese invented binary systems not for mathematical calculation but for divination and prediction of the future.
I would say, that both the Chinese people and Leibniz were given a Cosmic gift for different purposes. Thank you, Xue Hai Li for your comment. Hanna
Thank you. Not nearly as complicated as I feared. Lol.
@fudog186, links are not allowed here so replace [dot] with a . :-)
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well done!
Do all the sticks have dots on them or just a few? I am trying to figure out how the sticks work. It seems there is an equal amount of solid and broken lines on each stick but I was not sure if only two sticks had moving lines sides or all of them did.
Thank you.
The set of six sticks needs to be divided into two sets of three sticks, and marked as follows:
Both sets have three sides the same as follows: side 1: two straight lines; side 2: two broken lines; side 3: one broken line with a dot changing into a straight line.
The fourth side on set 1: two broken lines
The fourth side on set 2: two straight lines
Hi Hanna, it seems the book I have by R. L. Wing teaches the opposite sums as you. For example 2 heads and a tails equaling a straight line and two tails and a heads equaling a broken(dark) line. Do you know which is the original method or teaching on this? Thank you
It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you decide which side you want to define as value 2 and which as value 3. And then stick with it.