THIS is one of the BEST hard rock performances I've ever seen! Enter Rick Derringer!
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- On the agenda tonight we're taking a look at Rick Derringer performing 'Rock & Roll Hoochie Koo' back in 1973!
Original video - • RICK DERRINGER / EDGAR...
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TIME STAMPS -
0:41 Performance
4:12 Analysis Start
7:48 Rhythm Guitar
13:20 Rick's Lead Solo
👏 ❤️🌟 Before you picked up your guitar to analyze your videos, you got the occasional commenter asking what qualified you to give input on a guitarist's skill---I think you shut that door forever. Wow. Can you play!
although i saw Derringer play several times w/Edgar Winter, when we caught the time he opened up for Led Zeppelin in Oakland 1977, Edgar was nowehere to be seen (at their notorious final US gig, when Bonham & gangster John Bindon were arrested for assaulting a crew member who nicked the Led Zep sign from a dreesing room trailer backstage); Page, in the throes of his heroin addiction was ineffectual at best, quite an underwhelming show by Led Zep- and Derringer, playing the slot just before them, BLEW THEM OUT OF THE WATER!!! thumbs up, of course, #954
If I could push a "Magic Button" for myself then I would have 21st Century Guitar Heroes "Fil Wings of Pegasus" aka "Filly Page" and "Justin Johnson" aka "Justin Ray Vaughn" form a new BAND with Me... I do the Lead Vocals... my vocal inspirations are Elvis, Robert Plant and Chris Cornell...
Have you heard Back in the USA ? Derringers best playing imo. He's just killing it on a ES-355 , and in a later interview he said that was the best playing guitar he ever owned and some bastard stolen it ! , th-cam.com/video/wf2NsGMW_A4/w-d-xo.html
Frankenstein edges out this song IMO.
Rick is a personal friend of mine, we have recorded at his home together and I can tell you that he is a great guy! Super talented guitarist and producer!!!! Just a good person all the way around!
I love Rick as a musician but under NO circumstances can I get behind his current political views! Such a shame. Who hangs out with such a horrible person as Alex Jones?
@@paulweston8408 Huh, I didn't realize Rick was a Trump supporter. I like him even *more* now! Thanks for letting me know. :)
@@Cosmo-Kramer Not a problem Cosmo! Glad to help. Don't forget to send Trump more money to "stop the steal". So far he's only got a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS. He can't stop anything with that small amount. No wonder the poor guy has to steal national security documents. After all, the Saudi's gave Jared 2 billion dollars right after the election for some reason.
Anyone else wonder WHY it took 10 pallbearers to bury an empty casket on a golf course since ex wife was immediately cremated? What a sweet spot to put her so now by law he both doesn't have to pay taxes or lose his course WHEN he is sued for fraud.
HAVE A 🙂 DAY
@@paulweston8408 Facts!
It baffles me that anyone with his talent and success wouldnt be.
I booked Rick Derringer many times in my career. He’s a gentleman a great guitarist very underrated and very humble
how wonderful!!! was he as cute in person as he is on the screen?
Very cool to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience!🤗💖
It baffles me that anyone with his talent and success wouldnt be.
One of my favorites!!
This clip shows some real chops from the legendary RICK DERRINGER. I'm a guitarist and have followed his career the whole time. His side work is something I should get now that it's available on GOOGLE search. This was a great episode. wish Pegasus would cover UFO tracks which came out a year or so later in this era. Good stuff
I've seen Rick many many times, and tipped back a few beers with him too. He went to one of my gigs the night after one of his, and stayed for a beer after our first set. We did our Johnny, Edgar, and Rick medley and he liked it. He didn't jam with us though. He gave me advice that I follow to this day. He told me to stop holding my breath during my solos. He's right. When I concentrated on breathing, I discovered that I grind my teeth while I play too. These deprive our muscles of oxygen, and waste energy that causes us to have a rough third set later on in the night. He is one of the coolest down to earth people who are actually famous too. I'm just a nobody, and he's still polite and respectful.
I've heard that if you have a tendency to speed up or slow down while playing steady breathing helps.
Dude, what a cool story. Yes he is a class act
Man, that’s awesome. Glad to hear Rick is a down to earth guy. An American rock n roll legend.
Yeah bullshit.
What a cool post. if you want to know what someone’s really like- see how they are with people who can’t offer anything but a friendly conversation- ie- ordinary folks.
The bass player, Dan Hartman, was the guy who did the song "I Can Dream About You" which was a big hit. He was a great singer, songwriter, producer, and even a studio engineer. He also wrote the song "Free Ride" for Edgar Winter.
Oh yeah!
Dan Hartman was an all around super talent. Sad his life was cut short way too early 😢. RIP Dan Hartman.
Didn't he play with Johnny also?
@@c.e.anderson558yes of course he played with Johnny, they were all in the same camp
he did a ton of disco too. "relight my fire" is a great club hit.", "instant replay" too.
Derringer made an instant classic and this song is Rock n Roll! If you don’t like this, then you don’t like Rock n Roll! Period!
This is probably his only good tune.
sure
Edgar Winter group was one of my favorites back in the day. I saw them twice in the Bay Area, both times with Ronnie Montrose. But I always liked Rick on the albums. One of my favorites was Rick's singing & playing Back In The USA on the Roadwork album. Similar arrangement to Linda Ronstadt's, but I loved Rick's playing on that. I also played Rick first(?) Derringer album to death. Some really good songs on there (Beyond the Universe, Comes a Woman).
@justjoe2290 EW Group's only great tune is Frankenstein. RDs only great tune is Rock Roll Hootchi Kooks. 🥱
Don't you have some more ants to fry under your magnifying glass? @@Hundert1
This is what rock n roll sounded like, almost a half century ago. Like a Locomotive tearing up the track. That's why they're smiling, because it's fun tearing up the track. Thanks FIL, for another great memory.
True words P
Exactly pistolp, well said.. I bet that pistolp stands for Pistol Pete Maravich.
@@perryantonio20 You would be 100 percent correct on your observation, Jess. I've been a life long fan and life long basketball player. There was a time, I could do every single move and ball handling skill that Pete did and taught. I had the hair and the baggy socks and put my heart and soul into being the best player, I could be. I've never been one to idolize any particular person, (or person's), but Pete was as kind and generous, on the court and off. I met him at a basketball camp when he was with the Atlanta Hawks and he allowed me to show him what he had taught me. It was a moment as a young teen I will never forget. He said it was like watching himself in a mirror. I quickly reminded him that I was better looking. His laughter at my remark was so genuine and he said, "Now, I know you're me"! A beautiful moment for me, for sure. I was originally, on TH-cam, as PistolPete, but I messed up my first account and couldn't remember my passwords or login information and wasn't able to retrieve that account, (bummer), so I was lucky to get the moniker I now have. I can't sign in as PistolPete, but I feel good knowing that they're both mine and no one else can use them. LOL Well, Jess, I'm pretty sure this was way more info than you required, but I thank you for allowing me to take a walk down memory lane. You take care and stay safe.
They are definitely having fun, you can’t fake that.
Rick, Dan and Edgar never truly got the respect that earned for their incredible work.
TRUTH (( tend to feel that "they" were in 'A different place'.
Like wouldn't sell their souls but rather shared them.
You are so right. Edgar Winter Group just seems to be known for their two songs, the one album, and Rick for the one song. Dan, on the other hand, had a massive hit in the 80s, but as a group, these guys are amazing.
I grew up having my dad blasting White Trash on the record player. The Winter's were a huge part of my musical influence as a kid.
Darrenger live was my top 5 albums in the 70's, your right on the respect thing. Even today with reaction reviews I wish they would dig deeper for request from the few real rockers like us not the popular pole stuff .
@@jtmichaelson Dan had A LOT of session gigs!
The chances of even ONE 'Hit' is probably less than a lightning strike.
... and if you were a songwriter or musician, you were very likely WARNED by your teacher or something.
But, we were younger, stronger and sometimes seemed SO CLOSE, like the moon sometimes!
You know you're badass when Edgar Winter is playing keys for you.
That's one thing I appreciate about Edgar. Free lance mercenary, have keys will travel.
They helped each other out over the years, RD played guitar for Edgar, Edgar played keys on Rick stuff. I saw them 10 years or so ago, and they each popped up on the others set during the show to back up their buddy!
I think that it was Edgar's band?
@@motorlibro - Yes. Back then they were most often billed as The Edgar Winter Group.
This lineup, and the one with Ronnie Montrose, toured a lot during the "Frankenstein" mega-hit era. Dan Hartman played bass in both lineups.
Wikipedia has some good info on Edgar Winter.
(edited to provide correct info)
@Eileen - This was an all-star group, Dan Hartman was on bass, when Rick wasn't playing a gig, Ronnie Montrose was playing guitar. The group was usually billed as The Edgar Winter Band, (I think).
time to search Wikipedia, if I don't pass out.
Rick Derringer is consistently one of the most under appreciated guitarists of all time. He's simply so solid I just don't understand how he doesn't get more recognition.
Rick Derringer is great. For years I didn't realize that at age 17 he was the lead vocalist and lead guitarist on the McCoys #1 hit Hang On Sloopy in 1965. What a career he has had.
Really?
@@juliestrom412yes, if you look up the video of them playing it you can see him on guitar :)
I'm not sure which is more fun: watching the performance, or watching Fil watch the performance.
Yep!
Fil
Right, exactly!!!
@@louisb5563 it is fun watching Fil get excited about this riff and that chord, ... and this particular segment of the solo ... etc. I love this analysis of yesteryear bands by Fil ..
@@bmwrulesforeternity5218 I love watching Fil's face, especially when he's really loving it. The truth is in the eyes, and the eyes don't lie. Amen.
@@bmwrulesforeternity5218 Perfectly said, my sentiments exactly! 👍😀
We all were blown away back in the early 1970’s by Rick Derringer and Johnny & Edgar Winter.
Also Robin Trower, Yes, Focus, Nazareth, BTO and many others.
Of course Montrose, Rainbow, Dio and so many other groups added to the raw power and awesome nature of true rock-n-roll!!! Sadly, pop and disco ended that great era... While in graduate school at Stanford I remember listening to KOME in San Jose... It was pure magic! I went to a concert with Edgar (and Rick), and Johnny showed up unexpectedly...WOW!! It is wonderful that some of the old, underappreciated greats, like Rick, are still around!
Derringer wrote it, but Johnny does it better
The late great Jeff Beck
4:11
4:11
Yes Fil. Totally bad ass rock. Love when a band looks happy. These guys are having a blast.
Yeah I love seeing a band have fun
Saw Derringer 3 times live. Once in a club. They always had fun. We always had fun. Rick always killed. Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo for you.
high all the time lol
Fil, you are the greatest.
My mother was a concert pianist. She taught me that every instrument the instrument should focus on adding to or complimenting the melody. When you listen to the guitar solos of the true grades you hear the guitar actually sing out! Sadly, so many guitar solos are now about shredding as many notes as possible... which is just sad! Other greats like Richie Blackmore and Brian May really understand how to make a guitar sing... But Rick Derringer was there 1st!
in 73 i was 16 years old and having the time of my life with all the music we had,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Dittos! We were spoiled and didn't know it yet.
Likewise. I’m amazed we survived.
Ric Derrenger has played on so many hits you can’t even count them them all, and that is just other people’s hits. Amazing guitarist, session musician, and solo artist
In real life, and as a human being, he completely blows. He treats fans like crap. I met him, and I hate him.
I've heard so many stories that are completely opposite of yours. That and his reputation in the industry makes me wonder about your judgement or behavior. 😀
@@johnbeckman8916 You may believe whatever you like. He was a drugged out foul mouth jerk to me and his wife told me she was sorry. Nothing in my behavior deserved his cruelty.
I believe that he also was the music director for WSBK TV38 in Boston.
Funny thing is, he didn't record in Edgar's band on the album this performance was supporting, the They only Came Out at Night album. That album had Free Ride and Frankenstein with Ronnie Montrose playing guitar. I have never seen a video with Ronnie playing with Edgar. My thinking is it may have conflicted with what he was doing with his own band, Montrose, with Sammy Hagar on vocals. But have never heard anything definitive.
Purely one of the greatest classics. This song is as fresh today as it was almost 50 years ago.
Edgar winter is such a freak, in the best possible way. He's really laying it down. Overall what a performance. Heavy groove. These guys are really having a blast.
Heck yeah! Rick Derringer, Edgar and Johnny Winter were the REAL deal. I agree with you completely and I've seen them live. They sounded like they did on LP's which required each member of the band to be conscious of the mix. Few groups could play at their level for an entire show much less maintain the balanced sound. People, now days, don't understand what it's like to play without a mic on everything. Brings back some good memories :)
Yes all 3 guys were our favorites back in the 70s high school daze.
Rick and Edgar's interview in the Tokyo tour show is beautiful. The whole Tokyo show is absolutely amazing though, and I would love to see more people react to that showcase of absolute talent.
Actually many groups can play what they record in the studios, live in concerts! Why would you say such a statement? I am thinking you have not been to many live concerts!
Roadwork by Edgar Winters White Trash was a double LP with all of those guys and a horn section and it was a great one.
You hit it dead on when you said they were so good they didn't have to concentrate. I think that's the key to greatness, to get you mind out of it and your feet off the ground. I was always jealous of that as it was just beyond my capabilities.
Rick Derringer was and still is a phenomenal talent. Many people don't know it but Rick is still active in the music industry, mostly writing songs for other successful music artists. Although he still sings, and also rips out a solo now and then that will still blow your socks off. (**Ricks played guitar in studio for countless famous groups)
As for the video shown? Gotta love that straight into the amp sound. Just cranked up causing some natural breakup / distortion. No huge pedal board being used or needed by Rick IMO...
Thanks for covering this one !!
Seen Him at B.B Kings Nyc a few years ago. He and his band were great .
Very cool! There used to be a bar here in DC that was very bike-friendly, called "The Crow Bar", which always had a block party on Memorial Day weekend following the "Rolling Thunder" ride. Funny story appeared in the local "City Paper" the last year they had it (due to losing their lease on the property). One night, "Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo" was playing, and there was a guy at the bar playing air guitar to it. Another guy saw it and said, "Who does he think he is, Rick Derringer?" The bartender heard it, walked over and told him, "Buddy, that IS Rick Derringer." Rick and his band played at that final block party.
Awesome 👍😄
Wow. I personally don't feel anything good comes from DC. But if you say so.
I remember The Crow bar. I remember when it closed. Sad day
Thanks for sharing great story. Always loved both Derringer and the Winter brothers.
Loved the Crow Bar.....Joyce was a hell uva bartender
What I love is Rick's ability to not only strum while singing but riffing while singing. And I love your ability to hear it and then immediately perform what you heard, all the while teaching techniques.
This, kids, is what rock truly is and how it should be delivered.
The way grandpa used to do it. Totally real.
One of the coolest rock n roll songs ever
A song I've probably heard hundreds and hundreds of times over the years but never really appreciated until I watched you analyze their performance. Great job.
Fil seems to do that with almost everything. I truly love the man.
Ditto! I already had a new appreciation from the performance. The analysis just illustrated some of the 'whys'.
It is a crime Dan Hartman does not get more respect in the rock world
Hartman ventured off into R&B/Soul/Pop. Have you seen his performance on Soul Train?
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He has my respect.
He did ok.
word robert
He made it big by the 1980s and he changed his image a lot by then ..
I saw these guys warm up Alice Cooper's "Killer" tour in Feb/72. My reaction then was identical to yours now, which I find interesting. The band onstage was seemingly just out to have a helluva good time. Beaming smiles, easy laughter. Really great rockin' fun, but underneath all that was flawless impeccable musicianship that still leaves me in awe almost 50 years later. Good call on this one, Fil.
I saw the Killer tour in Montreal. Dr. John was the opener that night. Where did you see it? I wish I was there, because I would rather have seen Rick et al!
Nice. I saw Rick Derringer and I don't remember who he opened for but believe it was Bad Company or Foghat, back in the mid7 70's. I was in a drug induced haze so my memory is a bit fuzzy. I know Edgar Winter was not in the band when I saw them.
Now Alice Cooper was the shit back in the day, Actually his concerts would blow everyone off the Stage.
@@truthstillmatters59 if you saw Foghat live, that must've been amazing ! Lonesome Dave was the man and the whole band was brilliant
@@rickleblanc8900 Feb 1st, 1977. Still remember the date. I was 16 and had a GREAT time. I'm pretty sure that is where I saw Rick Derringer. I've been to a couple hundred concerts over my life. One of the best things about being old is it meant I was able to go see all the really cool bands in their prime.
I saw Rick Derringer and The Edgar Winter Group at the Omni in Atlanta, Georgia USA in June 1974! Totally FANTASTIC!!!! Rest In Song Ronnie Montrose!!! Thank You Fil! Great analysis! 👍👍👍👍✌✌✌✌
Thank you for mentioning RONNIE. one other thing is CHUCK RUFF who was always the one guy EDGAR stayed with. He was incredible and underrated.
I had the extreme pleasure of opening up for Rick. He was just a awesome down to earth guy. He was so nice to me and my band. Much respect to Rick as a musician and a as a person. And oh yeah, he absolutely ripped that night.
Really nice tribute my friend, it's so.... yes awesome to hear people being decent, we get so much less of it and selfishness these days. Just thank you from one person to another and bless you Jason!
Wow! That must have been an exciting adventure! What band were you playing in, and where was the concert?
I talked to Johnny Winter a year before he died in Houston. All those guys were just so cool, brilliant, and loved to play rock.
And, this is a great "guitar" song. It's driven by Rick's electric guitar-playing both lead and rhythm.
Rick Derringer, Edgar Winter and Co. soooo far ahead of their time! 👍
Thanks Fil for taking me on a 48 year time warp. I can't believe it's been so long. Excellent job I've enjoyed it.
Rock on!!🤘
This song was SO POPULAR back in my day 💜 It was played all the time on the radio
I love the way Rick is smiling and clearly having a ball during the performance. Some of today's rock musicians seem to be in pain when they play, but Rick is bouncing with good cheer. Charismatic frontman and incredible guitarist. Loved this song when it first came out (yes, I'm old) and it's held up well. Also, such gorgeous hair! LOL
Anne...that is so cool. Checking out the drummer, he's smiling through the whole song too.
I love how he plays slightly ahead of the beat and then cuts the note off. So precise. Jimmy page did that too.
i thought his volume was turned down on his neck pickup when he started playing lead.
watch how fast he turns up his neck pickúp volume when he does the second part of the lead solo. fn amazing.
Fil, you kill me. Have loved Derringer since Johnnie Winter And. We partied with Rick in like 76-77? Drinking Crown Royal with Rick. Listen to his cover of Boz Scaggs of Brother loan me a dime! Duane Allman was original guitarist. Derringer absolutely crushes it!
Crown Royal in 1990. Wow, the man can still play.
Fil is hilarious. He really thinks he's discovered bands that were great before he was born!
@@alkholos i saw every legend in the 70’s & early 80’s that people dream of today. But I give mad love to Fil for digging on this. I saw everyone but Zeppelin because Robert Plant son died. Had tickets for Syracuse what 75? Can’t remember because I was on acid haha. Seeing King Crimson doing 21st Century Schizo Man tripping was about as scary as it got. They invented metal
@@RMGCBG Good on you for seeing great bands. I have to dispute that notion that King Crimson invented Metal. That would be Ritchie Blackmore and his band, Deep Purple. I saw them play at the Hollywood Bowl here in L.A. in 1968, promoting their album, "Shades of Deep Purple." Ticket price? Fifty Cents!
King Crimson formed in 1968 also, but their early stuff was progressive rock, not hard rock or metal. Great band nonetheless. Just my opinion! Don't hate on me!
@@alkholos Blackmore and Deep Purple were always my favorite band. Saw the Machine Head tour. I’m talking about 21st Century Schizoid Man. Nobody sounded that dark before. Sabbath 1 is up there
Always respected Rick Derringer's energy, playing and no-nonsense, drug free work ethic. Saw him perform about 10 years ago in a small theater in Trenton, NJ. He is one of the fewer 70s era guitarists I've heard who has actually improved with time. his playing was insane, incorporating VanHalen style tapping as well as lightning alternate picking speed. so my point is here's a guy who truly enjoys not just playing, but practicing and continually improving his technique as well. He had a Marshall half stack on stage that you knew was live because you could feel the punch in your chest when he played. So refreshing to be able to absorb the real rock n roll energy of an old school performance in modern times as opposed to an over-mixed, compressed audio engineer's version of what the performance should sound like. Nice analysis. Liked!
still he stole everything he knows from Ed Van Halen
@@bobjones2041 LMFAO... He was playing before the boy van halen had been born.
@@aquilomanganelli175 that's not what I heard from the VH camp. Ed invented everything, to include the moon and stars
@@bobjones2041 Derringer came out in '65 with "Hang on Sloopy", played with Todd Rundgren on four of Rundgren's solo albums. Alice Cooper, Johnny Winter, Meatloaf, Ringo Star, on Steely Dan's "Show Biz Kids" (1973) "Chain Lightning" (1975) "My Rival" (1980) and Fagen's 1st solo album (1982). In 1983 he played on Air Supply's "Making Love Out of Nothing at All", Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" and Barbra Streisand's cover of "Left in the Dark".
He discovered Weird Al Yankovic and produced his 1st album (1983) believing that Yankovic was going to be a success and not waiting for record company involvement. Derringer produced 6 Yankovic albums between 1983 and 1989; for this work, he received his only Grammy Award (and signed my strat!)
@@jaynuzum4570 there was no music before Ed Van Halen played Eruption. Thats what I learned on social media
One of the very best guitarists playing with a perennial all star team of talent here. If you want to be blown away, watch Ricks version of this song with Ringo's all star band. Like fine wine, he got better over time. He is also an excellent producer. And as usual, Fil did an amazing job of analyzing the performance.
This was just great to hear and see. It goes to show how the raw sound makes it more organic to listen to. No bells and whistles, just true talent! Thank you, Fil, for another fine analysis.
Dan Hartman, playing Bass on this song, had a really great career.
Dan was like a Todd Rundgren - he could write, sing, play all the instruments, produce and mix a whole album by himself.
He was in the EDGAR WINTER GROUP with Rick Derringer, and wrote and sang FREE RIDE and other big songs
After the band broke up, he had a prodigious solo career as a musical artist and producer - he had some Dance/Disco Hit Songs and some early 1980's Top 40/R&B/Soul Music Hit Songs, as well as producing very successfully with artists like James Brown, Tina Turner, Neil Sedaka, Chaka Khan, and many, many others.
Dan was also a closeted gay man - and was a victim of the AIDS crisis, dying in 1992 at 43 years old,
"I Can Dream About You" is a Dan Hartman composition that he produced, played instruments and sang lead vocals on.
@@davidsyrotiak8758 Dan Hartman also wrote and produced James Brown's last hit song, LIVING IN AMERICA from the Rocky 4 soundtrack. Dan was a very interesting guy - it would be great if someone could do a documentary on his life and work.
@@carljacobson7156 absolutely should be done.💯
One of the greatest concerts I went to in the 70's was also one of the most eclectic. It was a three act affair that opened with the James Cotton Blues band, followed by George Carlin doing comedy and then Edgar Winter's White Trash with Rick Derringer. No auto tune, no pitch shift, nothing fake, just unbelievable talent
Saw him in the Spring of 1977. He was the back-up band on Boston's first tour. He was great. What a rockin' evening that was!!
What a concert that must have been! Wish I was there 👍🎸
@@cindypowers4993 right 😃
That's awesome.
@@cindypowers4993 Remember it like yesterday. It was in the old Montreal Forum. Middle of the Stanley Cup playoffs ( Hockey ) Montreal was playing Boston, in Boston the next night. Some kind of magic taking place. Rick totally warmed up the crowd. Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo was his last song. Must have lasted 15 minutes. Rick: "Rowdy Momma!" Rick points to the audience. 18,000 respond: "Rowdy Momma!" Back and forth. He had the audience in his hand. He was having a blast and didn't want to leave. They literally had to take the guitar away from him as his set was long past it's time limit. He was a tough act to follow, but Boston did not disappoint. Awesome concert.
Saw him in a small dive bar I use to play in that year. He is a short dude.
"Rick Derringer Live" was one of my favorite albums growing up in the 70's. 😎
Hands-down this is one of my favorite all-time classic rock ‘n’ roll songs! I used to sing in a rock ‘n’ roll band in Atlanta Georgia back in the 80s. This song always filled the dance floor even at a rock concert. The ladies loved it too!
Just from a guitarist standpoint, you really get a feel for just how good of a guitarist Rick Derringer was at this relatively early stage in his career. He turned into a very good Producer later as well.
No, at his super early start, his solo in Hang on Sloopy is sketchy. The smoothness of technique hadn't developed in him, or in almost everyone way back in that mid '60s, save Mick Taylor (and Frank Zappa, the greatest guitar player of all time). All the rest, they needed to hear it from Hendrix, first. Cuz prior to JimmiH, it was all too rough and nowhere near ready to show off any pretty playing, any classy playing. And it wasn't the Hendrix Wild Thang that kickstarted classy playing (because that cacauphonic mess was anything but pleasant to listen to), it was Watchtower, and Rainy Day, and The Wind Cries Mary. Then Voodoo Chile blew the roof off of the shed, Muddy Waters music front and center, long live the 1st postion E chord.
@@grubbetuchus the greatest all around guitarist of all time would be Steve Morse.
@@davidspurlock1111 Steve Morse is amazing, just amazing. There's so many amazing players, Ritchie Blacmore, Steve Stephens, Brian Seltzer, too many to list. Then there's the alleged greats, the hackneyed & trite crowd, the famous-yet-sloppy, etc
@@grubbetuchus I might add that JIMI HENDRIX was aware of his sloppy playing because he was almost always being forced to jam in his live concerts. Anybody doing that makes mistakes especially in a 3 piece. On BAND OF GYPSYS Hendrix was given time to bear down and play with astonishing force and accuracy over the three live shows. Bill graham who witnessed the recording of the live performance said Jimi would stand still and forget all the rubbish and theatrics and play with concentration that blew the promoters mind. About the blues pentatonic scale it amazes me that musicians in those days could pull such memorable solos out of very few positions on the neck. RocKn roll hootchie Koo is a good example. Hendrix started to branch out in the last year of his career using notes outside the box and other major minor mixolydian etc. LIke frank Zappa said Jimi needed a musician who could notate his ideas. FRANK usually used one and Steve Vai was one of them. It allows the composer to get it on paper so his ideas are readily available to be played and recalled.
I saw Rick and Edgar perform live at a club called the Fore 'n' Aft North in Brewster, N.Y. in the 70's, and the show was every bit as energetic from beginning to end. They set the place on fire. People were jumping up and down and screaming and yelling throughout the entire show. I got to meet them after the show, and they were so accessible and friendly, laughing and teasing me and joking around the whole time. Edgar was a bit reserved and shy, but Rick really drew him out; he was a fireball, so full of energy that I asked him, "So, do your batteries ever run out?" What a great night that was. Hard to believe it was 43 years ago!!!
I'm from Cincinnati and Rick and his brother were regional heroes. What most people don't realize is how fast his playing improved years after year. Rock was bare knuckle, underground folk music in the 60s, by the time we saw him play with Edgar Winter at Cincinnati Gardens in 71 or 72 his skill playing, warm and enthusiasm set him apart from a lot of players. By the way check out his version of Chuck Berry's Back In The USA to be totally blown away.
I saw them when I was 13 when they headlined the “garden party” in ‘72 with about 10 other great groups…what a way to end the day of music!
I learned to play Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo in 73, and I still enjoy playing it today. What a fun song. Lots of energy. You should do a cover.
Awesome. Rock on!
Is that a different song from HOOCHIE koo?😁
Rick Derringer was in a group in the 60s called the McCoy's they had a big song called hang on sloopy
Ric did another version of it that was on most jukeboxes in late 1970s and 1980s.
Good memory
Lordy momma this is goood stuff!!!!
Hang on Sloopy was #1 on the pop charts at the same time Yesterday by the Beatles was #2.
I;m over 70 and this song is one of the best rocking songs ever done .Between rick and johnny they dont get much better.
I read an interview with Joe Walsh many years ago, he said Rick Derringer could play circles around him. That was hard for me to believe as Joe is such a great musician, but I think that is just Joe being Joe, paying a compliment to a fellow musician.
John Lennon complimented Chuck Berry by saying that another name for Rock and Roll is "Chuck Berry". And George Harrison complimented the late John Lennon in his song eulogy, "All Those Years Ago" by singing:
"You said it all, though not many had ears
All those years ago
You had control of our smiles and our tears
All those years ago".
Hi praise indead coming from Joe Walsh.
Just based in this performance, I'd rate Rick a better guitarist & vocalist than Joe.
@@NickNicometi Joes got a one of a kind style while ric's very convential style - playin with edgar must have been a master class every jam!
@@x_trio_3_po333 - very cool!
All the more impressive that he could get those vital rhythm parts in while singing, and somehow turn like 7 tracks (on the record) into one brutal one. I loved this whole album (All American Boy)
I was 15 when I bought the album "All American Boy" because I heard Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo on the radio. I couldn't get over the guitar playing
I suppose it was like people later hearing Eddie Van Halen.
The LP is in my wardrobe with the rest of my collection. I'm now 63.
Very under rated by public but when you see the albums and songs he plays guitar on most people in the english speaking world would have heard him play!
No
@@rickysherfy3990 I would be surprised if you haven't. Check out what he has played on for other artist. Like Jimmy Page and Leland Sklar who also seem to have been on every album produced.
@@rickysherfy3990 The McCoys, Edgar Winter, Johnny Winter, Steely Dan, Todd Rundgren, "Weird Al" Yankovic, Ringo Starr's 11th All-Starr Band for starters
Bonnie Tyler, Joe Bonamassa, Neil Sedaka, Jon Anderson, Bette Midler, Cyndi Lauper,Barbra Streisand, Richie Havens
Rick starts the solo on the bridge pup the switches to neck halfway through beautiful
I love Rick. Such a daring guitarist in his age. Nothing was to insane for Rick!
one of the catchiest songs/riffs ever- to me this is a true rock n roll anthem, the enthusiastic, positive essence of what rock was all about. good times!
I never much cared for this tune, but watching Rick play and sing so expertly and enthusiastically, I heard the song in a different color! Now when I listen to it, I will see Rick in my mind and will have a genuine appreciation for the classic.
This may well be the greatest single Rock N' Roll anthem of all time. IMHO. What a great, great song!
wHAT! DID EVERYONE FORGET THEIR I PHONES!
Anthem of 1970s
@@rubberducky6411 It is still one of the greatest rock anthems of all time.
Rick Derringer is one of my top 5 all time best guitar players. Backing up both Johnny & Edgar plus on his own solo. He has played with many top acts such as Cindi Lauper and Steely Dan. I met him and got a minute to talk to him about 10 years ago, it was great! His ability and creativity are awesome to me!
I caught Rick live about a year after this. Then again in 1978 then 2 years ago on a Rock Cruise. Incredible player (Still) , singer, and a massively talented producer's ear for what part and instrumentation fits. Got to talk with him at a Q & A and the man has great stories. This Group with Edger Winter was the real deal. I read a book last year that's available on Amazon- "Gallagher, Marriott, Derringer and Trower" by Dan Muise. Is over 20 years old but loaded with anecdotes, and interviews with people (and in 2 cases, the subjects themselves as Rory and Steve are gone). I highly recommend it to my fellow enthusiasts who love music of the era and this channel. Rick's whole story from being a teenaged bubblegum rocker to an accomplished player in White Trash to a go-to NYC Player and Producer in the 70s is worth a read. And those other guys ain't shabby either. The moral of the book is...these guys never made a lot of money but worked their asses off and loved their craft. And that with the exception of Mick Jagger....musicians are terrible businessmen. Thanks Fil !!!!
Saw him with his band a couple of times in 1977 as an opener for concerts. Always rocked and got the shows off to a great start.
He was headliner at a bar/nightclub near me in Tempe AZ. Made sure not to miss that. He of course didn't disappoint. Glad to see him doing well.
I've always felt that if it makes the drummer happy, you've got a good thing going.
Even at 9 yrs old I knew this guy was way above anyone on the radio. One of our American guitar hero's. "Way to go Ohio" - Chrissy Hynde
Oh, this is awesome. This entire group tears it up on Frankenstein as well. Awesome musicians.
So true deserved more commercial success
At this concert? On Winter's studio album, They Only Come Out at Night, Ronnie Montrose was guitarist on "Frankenstein". I know he didn't stay on board very long.
@@kennethlatham3133 Same lineup rips Frankenstein on youtube.
Its Edgar's band.
I love it!! I was 8, but I remember this song very, very well. Rock-Funk.... definitely 1973. Hilariously fun song.
Rick used to be a member of The McCoy's years ago. A great guitarist.🤗👍
phil sarrazine Yes The McCoys had two hits "Hang on Sloopy" and "Fever" Richard Zehringer/Rick Derringer a true Rocker.
@@drewpall2598 and the female dancer on the video 👍
Rick went to High School with me. Randy Hobbs of the McCoys married one of my classmates.
@@drewpall2598 Don’t forget on Johnny Winter And, Rick wrote more songs for the album than Johnny did. I’m still a little partial to that version of rock ‘n’ roll Hoochie coo!
@@ps7462 me too. That's my favorite version. BTW, the cover for Johnny Winter And was taken by Norman Seef. When we lived in LA, my wife was Norman's account manager and I was an assistant/darkroom technician while going to art school. Norman lived in the Hollywood Hills and when we'd go to his house to deliver prints or paperwork, there's no telling who would be swimming in the pool!
A sub fun fact:
That same year, Derringer had a contest in Los Angeles called "moveyourfingersasfastasyoupossiblycanwithoutplayinganythingutterlydevoidoftaste" (yes, it was all one word) It was a hoot watching every guitar slinger in town trying to keep up.
As for this video, the band was on the road and tighter than ever. At one point, the stage would go dark and when the lights came up all but the drummer had switched instruments.
That was one mean feat.
I was standing behind him ai Starbucks about 4 yrs ago, the reason I knew it was him he had a tattoo on his hand I recognized from his guitar tutorials. I tapped him on the shoulder and thanked him for his 1980 video tutorials and his talents. He lived in Sarasota, Florida recently. He should have owned the world.
Really? 😮 What city?
Although I don't play an instrument, it's really cool watching your analysis and isolation of one instrument! It looks even more technical than I ever thought, to play rock and roll, if that's possible. Your analysis will definitely help me to be a better "air guitarist", LOL! This song is one of my all time favorites since it came out when I was a little kid in the 70's and is a prime example of why, as much as I find good music in every decade, I still think the 70's and early 80's had the best music! Greetings from Ontario Canada!
Dude you really hit my soul with this one, My first big rock concert in 1973 that my older cousin took me to. I was 13 years old, and it was The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer on guitar, Ronnie Montrose had just quit the band to start his own band which was fine with me because I was already a huge RD fan. And nowadays Rick always shows up at the Dallas Guitar Show in Texas, usually plays and has a booth where he sells his guitars. And man what great dude he always has time to stop and shake hands, I’ve even had the opportunity to chat with him. So ya as you can probably tell I’m a huge Rick Derringer fan….👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼
Rick Derringer is an incredible artist, I’ve seen him many times live when I lived in Massachusetts in the 70’s. That band lineup is excellent.
First concert I EVER saw, Rick Derringer was playing 2nd lead with "Johnny Winter And" (Oct 30. 1970. Electric Factory. Phila.) I really didn't think much about him prior to that show. Only knew him fromj "Hang On Sloopy". But the fact that he kept up as an equal partner with the great Johnny Winter really impressed me. .Thanks for covering Rick's playing on this video. He's often overlooked, but was an excellent player/performer.
Thanks so much, Fil. I remember hearing and watching the McCoys when they came through town in the 60s. Rick and his brother were around 16-17 years old. The drummer was so small and young, he had to stand to play the drums because sitting he couldn't reach everything. Also, the first time I heard the magnificent and sorely missed Vox Continental organ. They played Sloopy and Fever and stuff and were just fun, fun as all get out. I am not sure teenagers today know what fun is anymore. Back then, it was much more simple - no phones, no social media, no nothin;. AND it was much more innocent and happier then, Partly, because music was not corporate - today everybody sounds like The Voice or Britain's Got Talent or some other thoroughly obnoxious corporate "talent" show. It was also amazing to see Rick team up with Johnny Winter - what a tour de force!
amen
I listened to Hang on Sloopy for 60 + years never knowing it was Rick Derringer until a few years ago😁Heck He was a seasoned Rock JourneyMan by 19and73✌😎☯️
WoW Fil, good call, I wasn't aware of this performance! Definitely killer version! 🔥🔥🔥Chuck Ruff really looked like he was enjoying himself! Great analysis 👍
I got countless requests for that one at the radio station! And it's still great.
Thanks, Fil!
Fil, one of your best! Sitting down with Rick Derringer, getting Old School with him, and acknowledging his talent with such enthusiasm is what makes your videos so memorable. Cheers mate!
Yeah Fil loving and appreciating the performance found in a 48 year old music video.🥰 I wonder if he in 1973, would have equally appreciated the performances of musicians from 1925? 😁
WONDERFUL! My late husband toured with Edgar Winter during the Frankenstein tour and got to play and hang out with Rick Derringer during the early 70s. He would have loved this video. Thank you for sharing it and for bringing back some great memories even though they weren't mine! 💜💔
P.S. Fil, you really need to try to enjoy yourself a little more during these videos. 😉
I saw Edgar Winter and Rick Derringer in concert in the early seventies. Mind blowing!!!
Edgar invented that portable synthesizer. Smart and talented. Him, Rick, Johnny all among the top players and singers. Too often overlooked but not surpassed.
He worked with Moog on it.
Of all his talents his friggin synth work was cool. I luv Edgar winter
This was a dynamite band. I saw them live in the 1970s several times in Memphis TN, which was one of their favorite towns. The Mid-South coliseum routinely sold out (12,000) for these guys. Interesting side note: Dan Hartman (bass, vocals) may have been the best all-around vocalist of the bunch.
I'm a big fan of Rick Derringer, from his days in the McCoy's, to the Edgar Winter Group, to his solo work, and his time with Ringo Starr And His All Star Band. This is awesome. Thanks for sharing this analysis video. Cheers, Fil! ✌️
Rick had been performing since the early 60s at this point. He had it down!
Another song of Rick's is Teenage Love Affair which just ripped Live!
I have the original Live Tobacco Road double LP with Johnny and Rick playing, it's awesome.
I watched this video on another channel several times to make sure the sound I was hearing was actually being performed live. I agree totally that this is one of the BEST performances I've seen.
Agreed!
I just love the ballsy, growl of the Les Paul on this.
I like Rick's growl when he sings, that's even better.
His first great solo: as a teenager in The McCoys, in the song Hang on Sloopy.
GREAT, GREAT song! Played by the OSU Marching Band at Buckeye games. Kind of an anthem in Ohio for several generations. 😀
Hang On Sloopy was the first record I ever bought. 🎶🎸
@@johnbeckman8916 Yes and in spite of that tripe its still an iconic song from the 60's. O-H who gives a flying funt? I'm a lifelong Columbus resident BTW, could NOT give less concern for an over rated college football team.
The problem with Hang On Sloppy is the Strange lives recorded it first,and Rick and the McCoys loved the song enough,but must've not been too happy with not playing on it,because their version that became a #1 hit in Oct.'65 had the same backing track,verbatim,as the Strangeloves version!Check out the I Want Candy lp that features the Strangeloves version.It is the same!In spite of this ,what an amazing guitarist,anyway,huh?!!!!He's a blistered,for sure!!
@@ronmartin4212 : very interesting, thanks. He certainly is one off the greats. All American Boy, a solo album, is really good
Dan Hartman, the bass player makes the song with the high background vocals (on the record anyway) Dan also sings "Free Ride" with the Edgar Winter group which I think is up there in charting songs.
The great Dan Hartman on bass, a great guitarist in his own right, singer and later a producer. The talent was astounding in this era.
@@TheSnowmanBKK The song "I Can Dream About You" from Streets of Fire is a great Dan Hartman production.
@@kitano0 Yep. I bet many many people don't know that about him.
He also did one the biggest dance hits from the late 1970s with "Relight My Fire"
Always wondered who did the lead vocal on Free Ride, I knew it wasn't Edgar (though you can definitely hear Edgar doing a backing vocal/harmonizing thing on it). Anyway now I know it was Dan, thanks.
We opened for Rick back in 91, in Rhode Island, Our agent told us Rick had blown up his Marshall the night before, and was wondering if anyone played through a Marshall, and if so could he use it for the gig, I had just bought a JCM800 50 watt, and I would be honored to have him use it. We did the gig , Rick was fantastic, and after the gig, we talked and smoked some herbal cigarettes, and asked him all sorts of questions about,the Winter brothers, about what songs he played on for Steely Dan, I asked him if he would sign my amp, and with a sharpie, signed it very nicely Rick Derringer 91”, I still have that amp and the great memories of that gig! Ricks the MAN!
Nice!
That's so cool!
I checked. He wrote this and its one of those classics now. Well done and with really fun vibe.
If you're a wrestling fan, he was the one who sang "I Am A Real American". But there's trivia to that song. It wasn't originally for Hulk Hogan. At the time, Hulk was still coming out to Eye Of The Tiger. I Am A Real American was the entrance music for Barry Windham and Mike Rotunda, The U.S Express.
Great stuff, Fil. Not only are Derringer's guitar parts sick, the bass line is not to be overlooked.
I learned/performed this tune in the 70’s in clubs a hundred times as a singing bassist in a 4 pc combo. It burned.
I could do it today with relative accuracy because it’s very intuitive once you’ve learned it.
There really ought to be more video of Rick in action.
Classic 70s rock like this was the soundtrack of my teenage years. I had a big record collection and a nice stereo system. Starting age 12 I sat by the stereo system learning how to play things on my Yamaha FG 110 acoustic guitar my mom bought me in 1973. I was so lucky to have a mom who nurtured and supported every creative interest I had.
you can see where Aerosmith followed this path on songs like Sweet Emotion and you can even argue elements of rap here though guys were rapping in the '30s in fairness to them. When you put a few monsters in a room you end up with bands like Edgar Winter and Yes, guys that could bring it
Rick Derringer was from Ohio. His band, The McCoys, had a 1965 top hit with "Hang on Sloopy". It became the official Ohio State song, making Ohio the only US state to have an "Official Rock Song"...Marching bands still play it at sports events with the whole crowd singing along! Much the same, but in a lighthearted way, as the Liverpool fans sing "You'll Never Walk Alone" at football matches. Thanks for this cool analysis featuring Rick!
Hi Lynn! I didn't know Rick's Sloopy connection! Our elementary school music teacher had a thing for that song, we sang it constantly! (And Gerry Marsden got the You'll Never Walk Alone idea from his close friend Tony Sheridan, who closed his shows with it, as did Elvis!)
@@deborabastian3795 How cool...I think it's so interesting! 'In 1985, the Ohio General Assembly approved "Hang on Sloopy" as Ohio's official rock song. ... Ohio is the only state to have an official rock song. Bert Berns and Wes Farrell co-wrote the song, and "Hang on Sloopy" became a major hit for the band The McCoys in 1965.' (Thank you, Wikipedia)
@@konstantia1607 Thanks to you, I even know who Tony Sheridan is! That's a lovely moving song!
@@lynndow3185 😊
@@konstantia1607 , as Pink Floyd's song "Fearless" fades out, it goes into a recording of "You'll Never Walk Alone" sung by the crowd at a British football game. It's on their album "Meddle".
When he went on his own he put on great show and I imagine he still does. Rick has Incredible energy and stage presence. I saw him in 1977 in Oakland, California. He was on the middle of the 3 act bill with Judas Priest opening and... Led Zeppelin closing. Well, after the concert everyone said Rick stole the show. And to my memory, that was true. While it was great to finally see Zep live, their show wasn't as inspired and riveting as what Rick put out.
Damn…that is a legendary line up! Shame kids today have nothing that good.
@@brianmurphy250 ,
Priest is touring.
Mammoth WVH dropped the best album I’ve heard in decades in June. Wolf is currently selling out stadiums with GnR.
GnR dropped a new song.
Jerry Cantrell is dropping “Brighten” in 4 weeks. Halestorm is producing a new album.
Everyone in rock is either touring or recording right now.
If “kids today” want to, they can see the band of their choice, or join the upcoming rock cruise with George Lynch and a ton of other seventies & eighties bands.
There’s an entire world of rock music thriving right now.
Forgot that Judas Priest opened. And I thought I had never seen them lol. Derringer was great.
About Zep
That is the infamous show where Peter Grant and Bonham beat the shit out of some poor BGP employee, then LZ wouldn't go out until BGP said they wouldn't press charges. There was a 2 hour delay after Rick Derringer and the whole vibe was blown and LZ was lifeless. After I found out later what had happened, I never listened them again. They can fucking rot in hell.
I was there. Derringer Band kicked ass!!
@Tessmage Tessera Corrected.
I knew an old rock and roll show promoter manager that actually had some interaction with Rick derringers manager and at the time Rick Derringer was so popular that he could have anything he wanted while on tour. What the promoter told me was that when someone questioned something that Rick Derringer wanted on tour the manager looked at them and said," what Ricky wants, Ricky gets". Rick Derringer wrote a lot of songs that a lot of people wouldn't even know were written by him but they were.
Exactly
Rick is also no spring chicken! He goes back to the mid 1960's when he played lead guitar and sang lead for the pop-rock group The McCoy's with top hits like: Hang on sloopy and Fever 😎
Wow does this bring back some great memories from the '70's ....... We had THE best rock music evahh! LOVED Rick. My new nickname for you is Fil "The Derringer " Henley, you could cover this song and blow all our fuses out of the ballpark 🎶🎸🎶🎸🎶
Cindy Powers
Rock & Roll Hoochie Koo Cindy! Yes Fil could do a killer version! 🧡✌🤘😊
Derringer opening for Rush was one of my top 5 shows. He of course played this tune, but the highlight of his show was "Beyond the Universe", mind-blowing skill on the guitar.
Little known fact, Rick plays the solo on the Todd Rundgren song "Couldn't I Just Tell You" from the "Something/Anything?" album, one of the best power pop songs ever.
Fabulous! Most people seem to forget that Dan Hartman was the vocalist on Edgar's Free Ride.
And Dan wrote the song as well!
No, didn't forget.
If you didn't spend some time going over this tune before you posted this video I would like to say you certainly have a good ability to diagnose a tune with all it's nuances etc. You must also have some very good ears, what a blessing. I'm impressed and a bit envious.