Epic Games Fanboys Defend EGS Despite It STILL Not Turning a Profit
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Fortnite will always be the example of how success can ruin a company with greed and laziness.
No GTA V and Rockstar is the example, Fortnite came after them
@@SupremacyGamesYTthere can be more than one, they both are greedy.
@@SupremacyGamesYT Rockstar can be greedy but it's far, faaar from ruined or lazy (with their games at least, laziness with the launcher is pretty much up there with the rest)
@@victor1882 gta definitive edition be like:
When Microsoft buys a company, its a monopoly. But when Epic buys exclusives, they aren't.
Thats the vibe I get from Twitter. Also ignore Vito whenever he comes up 🤣
Yes totally agree if Microsoft is a monopoly then epic is however there both not monopoly and one them is a laughing stock
TIL Epic Game Store has fan boys...
God, help us all...
No matter what fan boys will be for a thing to sadly a corporation. and out of all EPIC!? lmao given shouldn't to any but still.
Their new Unreal Tournament game were cancelled because of Fortnite. Why placing all eggs in ONE basket? Unreal Tournament were more likely to be relevant in 10 years than Fortnite.
or EG is paying forgien troll farms, cause that english...
Tim displayed his ignorance about PC gaming when he attempted to create a walled garden in an open field. PC gamers do NOT like exclusivity of any kind, it goes against the nature of our chosen platform. If you want to make your own game exclusive then we generally don't care about that, but if you start buying exclusivity then we're going to tell you to fuck off. PC gaming is NOT console gaming, we have zero interest in that stupidity.
Defending a plastic box=stupid
Defending a glorified Fortnite launcher that gives out free games=stupider.
So Valve being a successful company that a lot of consumers enjoy using is a monopoly. Makes Sense.
Steam has so much successful competition from Sony and Microsoft to GOG, Epic, Ubisoft, EA, etc.
Steam is no more of a monopoly on PC gaming than Samsung is on Android phones. It's the most popular but if they screw up there are still good alternatives.
I refuse to support EGS for their scummy behaviour. How they rather spend money on exclusives then using that money in developing the storefront into a proper competitor to Steam and no free games is going to make me use it, I'm not opposed to alternative store fronts and I do use other stores and in same cases I prefer them like with gog when it comes to playing older games
I know people who would rather sail the high seas than support EGS.
i only have the epic launcher because it gives out free games, its the only benefit i can think of
Hah that’s what I was about to comment 😂
Same
Same here.
pro tip - don't need a launcher for that, I use the website and don't even have it installed
Same!
Epic Games Store didn't even had a shopping cart for a long time. How do you make a digital store without a fucking shopping cart?! Only reason anyone even knows of EGS is because of dramas, free games and Fortnite
What? The constant giving away money = NO PROFIT, WHAT!
They played the board game Monopoly so are now experts on what a Monopoly is 😂😂😂
The EGS has fanboys? People will really simp for anything nowadays, no matter how bad it is.
If a game goes to egs first I pirate that game and wait for the steam release
Competition is great. Epic Games Store is not competition. It's just straight garbage
And people are calling them out over Alan Wake 2 being exclusive to their store
Remedy can say what they want that they owe them for making the game, but really they could EASILY make their money back if it was on steam too
Wait... Epic Games has fanboys?
I’m tired of games being announced to be only on epic it’s dumb af
These people throw the word "monopoly" around, not even understanding what the word is or what it means
I saw a similar take to some of these people in this video; revolving around "competition is good"
It's baffling, how some people will dick ride for, quite literally the worst option on the market(Though I'd argue Rockstar's launcher is up there too). Competition in itself is a good thing. EGS just isn't in the race; they bowed out of that a long time of go. They're just a joke, and most definitely deserve to be shat on. Epic Games's own worst enemy is themselves, and if the layoffs weren't a big hint at that, I don't know what is.
Rockstars launcher is pointless since most their games are on steam like wtf. but sure the GTA addicts to those who make non stop GTA clickbait use it.
So no more EGS exclusives?? 😂
I hope so
I hope so. I was hoping to buy the remastered of Alan wake only to find that is an EGS exclusive and has been for about 2 years and no sight of that changing, which sucks
@@Tony-xl3mv wow…
The Epic Games Store is a failure? I am so shocked. I can't believe it. Oh my god. There I said it where's my twenty bucks?
Free twenty bucks I have ever seen, better than the other way to get twenty bucks.
Of course Vito would say something stupid in defense of Epic, it must be a day ending with Y.
I responded to Vito and said that his mentality was the reason that EGS is so god awful and he straight up responded with some NPC stuff like “I like the Epic games store because I get discounts and free games”
That response was straight ChatGPT levels of bot. JFC. Hell, I have EGS installed and have an assortment of games in my library. But I'll be the _first_ to admit that the launcher is actual shit and the storefront in general is just.. awful.
If not for Fortnite and Unreal Engine, Tim Sweeney would be just another failed tech executive on Twitter.
Console fanboys I can tolerate. Because it's hilarious to make fun of them every week. But digital storefront fanboys? That is where I draw the line sir
I have skipped alan wake 2 because its exclusive to the epic game store. I might go back and pirate it.
Steam is a much as a monopoly as I am with me declaring I have superpowers from comic books.
Its as unprofitable as PlayStation.
What genius executive decided to wake up one morning and take on Lord Gaben??
It's honestly insane that one of the best pro-EGS arguments is piracy on the consumer end.
What, did you think I wouldn't notice? Sweeney Tim is using that to try to lure people in, yet it's working about as well as anyone with a lick of sense would expect. The only reason why devs/publishers aren't more up in arms about this is because Epic still has to foot the bill. I'm not trying to claim to be an economist or a dev, either. It really only requires a bit of thought.
More generally, the fact that it's still not profitable _even after something caused a lot of people to suddenly have more free time, even for a relatively brief period_ is more than enough to tell me that it's just bad.
I've been waiting for the EGS to do one of two things. Either shut down completely or do an entire overhaul of the entire app. It offers little value as is and just tries to bait you into the platform via free games occasionally and exclusives. Not much competition for Steam there.
Epic game deserve to be down because they are so greedy anti consummer and just want only money i understand company needs money but not to scam people that's why i hate epic game even with their game exclusive
Indeed
I hate EGS because of their game exclusives. We don't need that kind of BS in the PC marketplace. If they simply came to market with a feature complete store that basically just does what Steam does, and then they gave away free games to boot, they'd be doing a lot better.
@@dh8203exactly
Epic decided to become the sony of pc gaming
I forget i have it installed most of the time
I bet the guy saying the downloads are faster just confuses bits and bytes per second. Although, 8 times would make more sense than 3 times then.
Epic started to give away games for free without consulting with the developers and publishers, just compensating the difference.
This destroyed perceived value of those products so much they never recuperated.
There is a thing called the "tail". It's the sales after initial release and it's actually very important for devs and publishers to have a long and high one.
when epic gives for free a good game i still buy it on steam because epic as a game launcher sucks
I love how no one's talking about this Scam Season full of member berries. It's literally half the content for full price, full effort for half the time. And there's absolutely _nothing_ new for once, it's all unvaults. All the skins in the "OG Pass" are fusions of existing skins. Even the bugs and issues that existed back then are back like ammo phasing through walls, hitboxes being six feet behind your player model, and ARs being wildly inaccurate.
I will not touch epic. I will not give money to a company trying to make exclusives on pc. Almost ever pc game i own is on steam but there is a reason for that. I like all the features steam provides. If steam fucks up ill move on but it hasn't let me down yet.
Not to mention that they've bought up games that had Mac and Linux versions like Rocket League and Fall Guys, and ended support for it. So if you bought them for those operating systems, you're fucked. How is there not a lawsuit here?
The only reason I've ever used the epic game store is for the free games every week. I've gotten more than I can count off the top of my head. Quite a few AAA games as well
I might need to play those Epic free games, because they could shut it all down lol.
I mean you would think that the amount of money they made from fortnite, they would put those funds into improving their storefront in performance & designs but no they are paying big money for exclusives & pretending that steam has manipulation of the market.
thps4 gameplay what a legend
Question 🙋🏻♂️
What are other PC gaming stores aside from Steam and Epic?
CD Red's GOG is a pretty good one
MS's Xbox PC one's been getting better and better
Ubisoft connect, GOG, EA app, Microsoft Store and anybody can just release a game on a website and sell that there, like Tarkov or Scam Citizen
There's origin, Uplay, Greenman gaming and battlenet
Every community probably has fanboys, lets be real here. There's probably fanboys for nfts and the rise of Skywalker for heavens sake.
You seriously don’t know?
@@TheKotor2309 no, nor do I want to know.
There can't be EGS fanboys, I don't believe it.
i add those free games on my phone but i don't even have epic instaled on my pc steam is my main store and that will never change
Just this morning I had to force close epic because on the system tray it was using 100% cpu, and whilst doing absolutely nothing
It will always be hilarious the fact that these Epic fanboys and Sweeney are mad at Steam and their 'monopoly' while Valve has pretty much done nothing other than exist and update Steam lol
I think they need to rethink what is actually being offered to the player with the EGS. Just like Xbox has a service like Game Pass or GOG offers DRM free titles, Epic needs to figure out something of value to the end user, not just gatekeep titles for a year because we PC players are a patient bunch with massive backlogs to just wait until it comes to Steam/GOG at a cheaper price.
the only direct response from Valve to Epic was when back them greedy Epic Games lobbied 4A Games into making Metro Exodus exclusive to their store and delisting it from Steam, Valve didnt liked that mostly cause a lot of users already pre-ordered it and a so many more were planning on buying the game... like myself... so they updated their policies so you cant delist your game from Steam anymore if you want to sell it in another store
If Epic is so great for developers that they can lower their cut, use that to sell the same games cheaper. That simple. Make a functional launcher and sell cheap games, its all anyone wants.
Epic fail store
Notice how many of those quotes supporting the EGS where really poor english? Reminds me of the crude forgien paid trolls you often see for some reason. Could it be some of those voices are paid posters? if EGS has no problem spending a fortune to try and "compete" with steam would it really be suprising if they're willing to use forgien troll farms?
Only reason I touch EGS is because my GPU came with all 3 Crysis remastered games and annoyingly only for EGS.
Personally I do think that the Epic Games Store *could* be a viable competitor to Steam if Epic would actually put the time and money into it. They are far bigger than Valve and have the backing of companies like Tencent and Sony, so they definitely have the resources to build a client that can compete with Steam.
But no. Instead of building a client/store that would provide healthy competition, Tim Sweeney would rather waste his company's resources to fight other companies like Apple and Google over what he perceives as injustices. Or at least that's how he spins it. But he hates the thought of revenue splits.
The success of Fortnite and all the money it brought in made Tim Sweeney cocky and arrogant, making him think that he can take on the world. It's why Epic launched this halfassed client. It's why they'd throw hundreds of millions of dollars at exclusives to undermine Steam. It's why Epic is suing tech giants like Apple and Google. And now hundreds of people had to lose their jobs because of Tim Sweeney's misguided "moral crusades." And Epic is losing money still.
And their strategy or rather "tunnel vision" of paid exclusives to try and brute force people into their ecosystem. Yeah how did that work out in the end? I think Tim Sweeney even said once that it's not the consumer who will decide who wins the store war, but rather the developers. But the problem with that mindset is that it's the consumer who's buying the product. And if they aren't buying from your store then the developers will eventually go to where the customers are.
in fare right they keep adding free games
My main problem with egs is i can't play the games offline.😢
Epic Fail
Bro at first I thought so as well until I have to Google that you have to turn offline mode in settings… this is the same company that made billions from fortnite bruh 💀
Are Epic fanboys a thing? I can see why GOG have fanboys for obvious reasons, but Epic fanboys? LOL.
the epic shit store is a joke
instead of improving their storefront they will start to burn the goodwill of their developers, punish users of a more popular platform and exploiting children for money. As much as i am thankful for unreal and the help that epic has given us, i think tim sweeney is the most deluded head of any company i have ever witnessed in my rather short career. I think Tim sweeney needs to leave epic as it was by his hands that our evangelist was laid off who was the sole reason why we got approved for nintendo switch approval/
Epic Games Fanboys exist ?
Steam isn't a monopoly epic game store is a laughing stock 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Quality free weekly games"
Yeah... such quality games like "Turnip Boy commits tax fraud". I get that it's a silly indie game, but come on now. There's never been a single game that made me want to get it. And the ones I would have... I already own. People lost their minds when GTA 5 was given for free... 7 years after it launched on PC. Rockstar just wanted you guys to buy shark cards and be the best little pay pigs you are.
EGS isn't a terrible "premise", but there's nothing making me use it. It was only recently that one of my closest friends convinced me to play Fortnite with him, and since I enjoy Battle Royals every now and then, I just enjoyed the fun of the game. That's my only reason to use EGS. I have way too many games to play on Steam to care about the free ones given by EGS. They're mostly random games I have 0 interest in, or games I already own.
I agree with alot of your takes but you tend to add in alot of your personal opinion which is extremely subjective
Success and failure are only measurable depending on the companies goals
So if their goal is to offer games to people theyve succeeded bothof them scrutinizing the money gap is about as trivial as your words tend to be sometimes
What does epic Fanboys I never heard of anything like that 🤣😂🤣🤦 I guess you can't put it past anybody LOL
Shit, I’ll defend it. I get free games every week. I hope they never turn a profit so long as I continue to profit from it.
But if you miss the month then it’s over aswell
Tim Sweeny thanks you for your services. By constantly logging in every month, you help to inflate their store numbers, making it more likely they can snag exclusivity deals at cheaper prices!
It's thanks to your dedicated that the EGS can keep doing their bullshit, :)
@@Xyler94and I’m legitimately happy to help. I used to hate EGS but then I didn’t care because I still have steam and GOG. If I want to keep something, I’ll get it on GOG. If I want a good price and support, I’ll get it on Steam.
If I want to hear fanboys bitching about EGS exclusives; I’ll keep downloading all the free games they give me, inflating their numbers.
I lose nothing in this deal.
Yeah I heard about epic if I were a PC gamer I would rather you steam
GOG is better than both
I still use epic ive bought some indie games. I got multiple with the whole 10 buck coupon off something 14.99 or more so i got a dozen games for 5 or 10 bucks each
Steam has a deserved "monopoly" since its competition its generally bad and lacks the features steam has, the only multiplatform digital store that is close to be as good as steam is GOG, and i said monopoly in quotations cause while it has more than 60% of the PC digital shre Steam never destroyed competition like Microsoft did in the 90s, both cases are way different, yet is fonny how the Epic fanboys are trying to defend a coorporation with the excuse of monopoly while Epic deep downs wants a monopoly, Tim Sweaney since the beginning wanted Valve out of the gate
Companies can do whatever they want. Buy everything if they can. For F sake, that's what makes them business. STOP been consumers and act like customers. And if you can't tell the difference you are part of the problem.
Idk dude it's kinda hard to ding the review system of epic when steam's review system is constantly misused for reasons that are often not related to the actual game.
I'd even argue that performance issues are kind of off topic for a review. But we live in an era where performance will not be discussed at all or it will dominate the entire narrative of a game.
What is the percentage of games in Steam where ppl are misusing reviews? It must be less than 1%.
If something can be misused, this is not a justification for completely remove such thing.
Performance are offtopic for reviews? Why?
Usually the games that get "review bombed" (Boo fucking hoo) deserve it
UI:
EGS: mid
Steam: mid
Exclusivity contracts:
EGS: sh*t
Steam: good
Free Games:
EGS: great
Steam: sh*t
User Reviews:
Steam: mid (allows review bombing + refund)
Epic: sh*t (no critical voices)
Features:
EGS: sh*t
Steam: mid-good
Big Picture:
Steam: mid
Epc: sh*t/non-existent
Notifications:
EGS: sh*t (way too big, not scaling well with Winows Apps/UI scaling)
Steam: good (right size)
Developer-friendly:
EGS: good
Steam: mid
User-friedndly:
EGS: bad
Steam: good
Despie Steam being the superior platform, I don't get the hate against EGS. I'm happy EGS exists and prevents a Valve monopoly, take their free games and don't care much about the store wars. The only reason why store wars aren't equally stupid to console wars is that consumers don't have to buy the stores for 500 bucks. Otherwise it's only another stupid fanboy war.
Worse than EGS fanboys for me as a consumer are the Ngreedia drones, what are 2/3 of PC gamers who live in a constant state of Stockholm Syndrome and praise misleading proprietary software solutions. Ngreedia on the hardware side is responsible for the worsening of PC ports and making uoposcaling mandatory in new games. And they sh*t into the faces of their customers on a regular basis by abandon even last-gen cards by excluding them from these proprietary solutions. AMD and even Intel treat owners of last-gen and older cards better than Ngredia itself does by delivering their open standards even to older Ngreedia cards.
in no way EGS prevented a "Valve monopoly" cause first: Valve never had a monopoly and Second: even if Valve had a monopoly Epic didnt took good choices into stopping said monopoly
Bro really called the steam review system mid 💀
Usually when games get "review bombed" They deserve it.
@erieriderschillingcorner1595 and plus, steam has an all time review and recent reviews so you can easily tell if a game is being review bombed
So I should like Steam more because they make more money? Epic games give free games and that's enough for me. Don't understand steam fanboys.
You missed whole point of the video. We like Steam more because it has proper reviews system, social features like forums, guides, news, screenshots, artworks. These are all pretty basic stuff. Any computer science high school student can write forum in a week. Same with other features. We don't want some advanced features like Steam streams, noone really use them. Just fucking basic features are missing. They cost no money to implement. And they continue to lose millions by buying exclusives and giveaway games.
Steam is a better service.
Steam has amazing game sales, steam lets you refund games pretty easily, steam has a market place ( I bought a couple of AAA games just by buying cheap indies and selling cards from them), steam has actual reviews, steam banned nft games and much more
If free games is all I cared about, then EGS still loses since piracy exists and manages to provide a better experience than EGS. I don't see the need to wait for a handout. I've been a PC gamer since 2012 and many were PC gamers even longer than I have been. In that time, I've built up a large library of games I haven't finished due to sales happening so frequently and with them being so deep. So I don't care if a game got released on EGS for free, as I either already had that game that I got on sale for like 10 dollars or less 2 or more years prior, or it was a game I was not interested in. Hell, after a while, I started getting duplicate keys for things I already owned (for instance, getting a game in a monthly bundle that I had on steam).
And I'm not even rich. I get why the free handouts would be appealing to kids, but I can't imagine somebody with any sort of income getting excited about EGS free handouts. Especially if that person pumped quite a bit of money into the hardware itself.
Actually steam has fanboys like you. Epic has no fanboys at least.