The fact that they gave her the option to change clothes and start over again and SHE SAID NO is crazy. It gives off the “nobody can tell me anything” attitude. It seems like she’d be more drama than it’s worth
A lot of people were pointing this out as well. Many HR mangers were saying they would not have asked her to come back. You also make a great point about drama.
I am an HR Manager. I do many interviews. If I was that Recruiter, I would interview her but she would not get that job. These types of interviewees will cause many problems once they get hired.
@@yv8740 quit judging by the cover! Many a people have changed their outer garments to fit someone else agenda and have turned out to be rotten apples. Would the lady wearing a two piece black pant set been a better employee???? Can you say?
@@rosaperks1873 Yes, I will interview the candidate since it was already scheduled. Most HR professionals will be consistent with their ways (rules) to prevent lawsuits which is our main responsibility anyway.
The fact that she was defiant and rebellious during the interview, says that she would have been the same way on the job if they would have hired her. She would have been a problem.
She seems to have the opinion that a difference of opinion is an attack on her person. What’s wrong with black slacks lol, but really, visit the company’s website, see what is being worn in the photos, and match that, it’s good to have some conversational pieces about the corporate culture anyway.
@@TT_09 exactly. It was content plain and simple. The content creators making content about the content is pure thirst for attention also and the people in the comments just want to talk!!!!
She said she’s been in all types of professional environments but yet she wears shorts to an interview lol never have I ever or seen anyone wear shorts to an interview. This was extremely unprofessional, what you wear does matter, appearance matters.
Honestly I think that woman was either "rage-baiting" or trolling for engagement. In the past year I've noticed many videos of people being inappropriate for interviews are popping up on social media.
I was wondering this. She clearly didn't need or want the job if she canceled the follow up. And, she achieved her goal if what she wanted was her 15 minutes of fame.
As a Gen Xer, I was taught 3 things when it comes to my appearance: 1. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. 2. You dress how you want to be addressed. 3. A loose translation of an Ibo(Nigerian) proverb, If you want to avoid war, do not send your toughest fighter to broker peace. Basically, dont let your messenger distract from your message. Regardless of my personal convictions, I believe that as long as you're not hurting anyone, do you. As a business woman, i can tell you that companies are all about profits and public perception. Even if you're interviewing for a backroom job, you will be 'judged' on your appearance and your attitude BEFORE your 'perceived' competence. ❤
@@ngoziagbakwu2328 taking this way to serious. The girl wasn't interviewing to be CEO of a Fortune 500 company! As quiet as it's kept making a good impression isn't limited to what we wear....think on that!
Even when I interview for non-office jobs with children and animals I’ve never thought to show up in something as casual as shorts. I usually do a business casual look.
@@KlassicallyKept I was once told after the interview that I was overdressed, and jeans were fine. Even though I knew the job could get a little messy, we were working with printers and ink, I never would have shown up for the interview in jeans.
Exactly. When I went for a job interview at a pet hotel, I was in business attire. Loved that job, hated to leave it but it didn't pay much. Lost 25 lbs walking dogs everyday.
@@KlassicallyKept I worked at a temp job years ago and I still remember the manager that use to come talk to us office staff in the morning about his interviews. Now mind you, I never saw him wearing anything else but coveralls because the nature of his job. But despite this, he still would say to us "I know this is a maintenance job...but I still would like people to dress up for the interview. At least business casual with a tie." The manager wanted to be impressed by your resume and how you dressed because to him that proved that you really wanted the job.
When I was in school we had programs like Dress For Success and Future Business Leaders of America. I guess public education has largely done away with those programs unfortunately.
Same! I'm a jeans and t-shirt person and prefer jobs where I can dress down, but I ALWAYS dress up for the interview. I've been interviewed by people wearing jeans and t-shirts and I will let them know how eager I am to work in a casual atmosphere so that they will know that I am adaptable and will dress for the occasion.
She did it out of attention and will soon be forgotten, she will only be remembered for her lack of professionalism and this will hinder her from getting other jobs.
@@MsLadyCymp Yeah. But people will remember her for this nonsense, I would never hire her or want to work with her. Hope she gets money from social media or whatever her hustle is. It's clear she don't want a job.
@@hope3290 my career isn't questionable! Stick to the subject at hand. I said what I said. Thank you. P.S. to bad you can't relate to what was going on. It wasn't a career but an interview. Quit attempting to sound intelligent you ended up sounding foolish.
Starting a new job next week and during the in-person interview I wore black slacks and a feminine dark red long sleeve button up. Also wore brown flat loafers. My hair was in a sleeked back bun and I wore very light makeup Very simple, clean and sleek, especially for those who might not have the means to afford a fitted suit. Made a good impression since I got the job
I'm sorry but she know's better than to show up to an interview dressed like that. I would NEVER show up like that unless, I didn't really want the job to begin with. I always dress business professional for interviews. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.
I agree. My first job was for a fast food chain here in Canada and I dressed Business Casual for my interview. I got the job almost immediately and I worked there for 3 years.
Hello Ambi. You make a really good point. Many people in the comments were saying she didn't really want the job anyway or she was not serious. Maybe she does not have anyone to guide her, but when the recruiter tried to give her a hint she did not receive it well.
…lol…but as the old folks would say, “common sense ain’t common”. And as I’ve experienced working with people from all walks of life and from different age groups, what might be reasonable to me might be absolutely ridiculous to the next person. Add to that the fact that some people HATE to be told what to do, especially when it doesn’t agree with what they are determined to do anyway.
If she has never been told or shown she wouldn't know. We are living in a time when young women arent taught anything, how to dres , speak appropriately , even wrtie and evelope. This I witnessed young girl had to be early teens couldn't fill out an evelope hat to show her how. This is how young people are not if its not on a computer or social media they don't know anything.
Idc if she was being interviewed for a job at the Mac Donald's. That outfit was tacky and screamed i don't care. She should also know that being plus size makes certain outfits ride up. If i were the recruiter, she'd be out very quick.
My parents would have knocked me into next week if I wore shorts to an interview. Even when I was in college, we had a module on interviewing and how to dress. Clothing doesn’t have to be pricey to look put together. Most of my interviews now are on videoconference and I at least look the part from the waist up 😂
lol if I were in a situation where I was living at home and interviewing for jobs I would not have been able to leave the house. My mother would have politely said Lets try again Mya-Karren. When I attended college speech class was mandatory to graduate. On the day of your speech you had to wear business attire. If you were not dresses appropriately you did not present.
@@KlassicallyKept everyone was trying to excuse her by saying she lives in San Antonio. I live in Austin and never went to an interview or work dressed like that. My daughter also knows better than this.
@@KlassicallyKept My dad took me shopping for a nice skirt and blouse for an interview at a grocery store when I was 15… I wore flats because I’d never worn heels before and Dad said an interview was not a good time to practice ! I got the position, and stayed all the way through college - it was a great first job ! PS I still have the skirt - lightweight wool in black, knee-length, with a slim black belt - and it still fits more than 40 years later 😉
nope, she was in the wrong. short shorts were not appropriate for an interview. and doubled down like she did nothing wrong and even said she was overqualified for the job. anyways 😂 with all of her response videos I'm convinced she's just trolling the audience for views now lol
lol This! I Will give her the benefit of the doubt ( very lightly) that she truly may not have known you do not wear shorts to an interview. To me it seems after she garnered some much attention she chose to take the situation and address it in a differently. In her response video she is smiling and giggling and she even pitched Target to work with her.
Im 23 and just finished my masters and I had to go through the recruiting process with multiple companies. My school literally coached us on how to show up in front of these companies. We were told: business professional. always. As in a matching suit set. I wouldn’t even wear shorts in a business casual environment. I wonder who was guiding her through the recruiting process. And I’m trying to figure out what professional environment she was in that made her think shorts were acceptable.
Thank you for putting this out there and congratulations! When I was in college speech class was a requirement to graduate. On the day of your speech you were to dress up and if you were not dressed appropriately you would not present. Also ALL business major students were required to dress up for class. I wish you much success!
I agree with you 100%. It's a generation gap on what is work attire or interview attire. I interviewed a young black woman once and not only did she have on plain clothes but she also had on a bonnet cap. Not a turban. A bonnet. When I tell you I took the biggest sip of my coffee to prevent myself from laughing. I was in shock!
And just like some ladies in the comments pointed out it is not all Gen Z, enough young women are presenting themselves like this for it to be a problem.
The clothes you wear to an interview should send the message that you are ready to work, that you are appreciative of the opportunity to interview, and that you care enough to make a favorable initial impression. Shorts are very casual, relaxed attire and could send the message that the prospective employee is not seriously interested in the position. I would want to maximize my chances of getting the job by presenting myself in a way that sends a serious message. The young lady in the video needs to become aware that there will be recruiters that do not share her views about what constitutes professional attire. She comes across as very sure that her skill set is so stellar that she doesn’t need to make an effort to impress.
@@deannac5026 In the workplace you get fired for "hurting feelings", especially for certain demographics. Not even lying about that. I have no idea how we got here but it is not good.
I'm an older millennial. We were taught in high school how to dress for the real world. We were expected to dress appropriately in high school, which carried over to college and the real world. Today, when adults try to implement rules of dress in school or anywhere else, it's considered "body shaming." I've seen young people at the high school bus stop in pajamas, shorts, and skits that make it impossible to sit or bend body con dresses, etc. So this is a by-product. P.S. I worked in jail, and you wouldn't believe the clothing some of my coworkers thought were ok🙄
I'm GenX. We weren't even allowed to wear shorts to school. We had mock interviews, career day, had clubs like like Future Business Leaders of America. Even in college we dressed to impress. It was nothing to see students in heels, suits, and carrying briefcases. They are not rooted in reality. Everything isn't social media.
I’m 31 and when I was in my last two years of education (6th form in the uk) we were expected to dress in business/office wear. Most 6th forms just allowed non-uniform, as casual as they wanted. But for us it was suits for the boys with ties, and girls in skirt and blazer and blouse
The commentary regarding the generational gap has a lot of grace. A lot. To me it’s a perfect example of entitlement or at the very least, a huge misunderstanding of what discrimination actually is. The dictionary is a dusty book these days. Company aesthetics is and always will be just that. The ‘look’ of the company. Part of deciding to work somewhere should always include whether you’re willing to look like it on the daily. There are people who have a say in company aesthetics, if that’s not in your job description, stay on your lane. The rule of thumb my father gave me was, dress at least one step above what you see every employee wear. If they’re casual dress, go business casual. If they’re business casual, go business. If they’re business, go Sunday best on mute. Sad to say, one of my first jobs out high school was Abercrombie. What did the employees wear? Very Casual. What did the company models wear? Sometimes nothing apart from bikini bottoms and flip flops. Or just a pair of pants for the men. What did I wear to that interview? Full business.
There you are lol. You always have the best commentary. I love the advice your father gave, often times on my traveling assignments I was the most dressed up. You do make a great point about entitlement. The recruiter tried to give a hint, and the young lady was so worried about being "right" and standing her ground that she did not receive what was being said to her and the fact that the recruiter was trying to help.
I had a boss who sent out a memo “if you would wear it to a club, don’t wear it to work.” Dress for the job and it’s better to reschedule than be late.
The key word here is "raised." It's the job of your parents and family unit to teach, instruct, and guide young people, from getting along with others and behaving in public to dressing appropriately for the many activities you'll encounter. Nowadays, parents are disengaged and too busy living their lives to concentrate and raise their children. Not everything that plays well on social media is acceptable or translates to real life. The flamboyant rappers, influencers, and entertainment personalities should not be role models, nor should their in-your-face antics.
Hello Mya , they always told us to dress to impress on an interview. I don’t understand why she wore shorts was she trying to go viral. Thanks for sharing 💜🌸
@@patriciajenkins9458 that young lady knew better. She knew exactly what she was doing....she wanted to go viral....got people all in a chokehold for attention. I'm so tickled at the sheer naivete* of grown folk not being able to discern fact from fiction. Jesus!!!!!!
not me thinking it could have been pant suit shorts.. guuuurlll was she going for a picnic at the park? this new generation is going to have a rude awakening soon
Or maybe not. Maybe most people in the "new generation" will simply stop upholding these dress codes and the older bosses will just have to deal with it because they'll retire
@@VixxKong2 I get your point but those shorts were a no no .. some standards must be kept, you wouldn't have people in government wear bikinis to meetings or summits..
@@VixxKong2I don't think so. Even Gen X, Millennials will know this is unacceptable. I think most older Gen Z knows not to wear shorts too. Now Gen Alpha will probably want to normalize wearing bonnets and PJs to interviews but I pray we are ALL retired before then😂
@cynthiaholland13 Well I'm genz. I'm sure it's not gonna be everyone agreeing, but most people I know care more about being comfortable in their clothes. They're not too concerned about dressing to impress their employers. They even hate their employers. I honestly wish we could live in a world where you get work based on your skill, and not get rejected because they don't like your clothes, or your tattoos, or your piercings, or your brains.
I like this overall, and definitely agree that shorts shouldn’t be worn, but I think it’s worth stressing that after the interview and once you get the job, you should observe and match your environment. For my current job (at an energy company), I wore a black skirt suit, with a white dress shirt and medium heels for my interview. After accepting the job, i have assimilated into more of what everyone else wears and incorporated my own style into it. Casual cute dresses, jeans (moderate rips are worn by a lot of the ladies), and t-shirts/ sweatshirts are the norm here. It’s all about what the company allows. But you do have to make that good impression at first to get in.
As a person who has conducted many interviews, I agree they were nice to allow an option to change. Additional tip for interviews for both men and women. Show as little skin as possible. Make the interviewers concentrate on your skill set present in your resume. If you wear jewelry, be modest. Post earrings, single string necklaces etc. If you want to show something, let it be your personality that wows them. Skirts are ok but again modesty is the key. If you can wear that skirt to the club later cause it’s short and club tight, that’s not the one. I have interviewed people in brightly colored pant suits and found it not to be a distraction. Probably because they were covered up (jacket, pants and blouse etc.). Remember, you are representing what’s on the resume you submitted. If you interviewing for the fashion industry, maybe, but ANYWHERE else, shorts a no at any length.
I give my comment here directly after seeing her attire. I am a middle aged woman from Europe and although in these days some might hold my skin color against me per se, I firmly believe in common sense and that race should not be our defining factor. Now, going to a job interview with this young lady’s attire would raise eyebrows everywhere in every country, in every company, except for a go-go bar, probably. The way you dress is always a measure of politeness and respect towards the other person or your environment. It also shows how much effort you are willing to put into looking presentable, even if the result is mediocre. But it also conveys your maturity and ability of good judgment. Most interviewers in this case would have judged her by her wobbly appearance (being quite overweight myself I know very well about the necessity of keeping body parts from excessive swinging and wobbling) and went over to the next candidate. The company seems to have quite high standards and class, as they not only demand more coverage, but are also giving her a new, fresh second opportunity. Unfortunately this young woman has obviously not been taught a sense of humbleness or self-awareness, because no sensible mother would let walk her daughter out of the house to a job interview in such an outfit. Hopefully insight and understanding will come with age and maturity, not bitterness and rejection.
I am glad Tyreshia has such strong principles." I am personally relieved that she will never have to worry about working in my federal agency. Our agency had to institute a dress code when the millennials entered the workforce. Yoga pants, flip-flops, and tee shirts were flooding our hallways. We dress business corporate in my division. You are expected to dress as you are meeting higher-ups or potential clients. Like one of one of my coworkers told me: dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.
Why didn't she just just wear a skirt if she possibly wanted freedom for her legs? I used to wear a skirt (below my knees), that was what was appropriate for the jobs I used to interview for. In the career field I am in now, I either wear slack pants or scrubs. I always wear a button-up shirt now. It looks put together.
I really enjoyed listening to you. You are not just lovely in your look and presentation (Love the flowers in your hair) but you are clearly also a lovely person inside based on your demeanor. To answer your question, I once worked in an environment where jeans and t-shirts was the dress code. EVERYONE still arrived for their interview, with a guy wearing said jeans and t-shirt, in formal business attire. We never wore that outfit again.....but we interviewed in it!
Good evening and thank you. You have stated what many people in the community have. I remember sitting in fast food restaurants and young men would come in suits for an interview. Were they going to be wearing a suit to serve at Burger King, no, but the showed up in a suit to get the job.
I am a part of gen z (‘04), and the claim that “gen z doesn’t have a concept of there being ‘a time and a place’” is completely true. A girl came up to me the other day in a cropped tank top, a flannel, and short shorts, and asked me if it was appropriate to wear to a student teaching position.
Oh dear! Well each generation has its faults the goal is to improve on them- but first you have to acknowledge them! Sounds like you are mature person, and immaturity can be found at any age unfortunately. I wish you the very best and success young one! Love from genX🤗
This is wild, a Jamaican the words we heard a lot were “decorum” and “etiquette” growing up, dress how you want to be addressed is very real. Didn’t matter if I was interviewing to be a barista or a consultant, it’s always formal office attire, I use this rule of thumb, if it doesn’t need an iron, don’t wear it to an interview! You can keep it simple. White blouse, tailored grey/blue skirt (below the knee) or trousers and some leather flats or low heel courts.
I'm almost certain everyone knows (male and female) how to dress for an interview....including that young lady.....I have to give her credit here because got exactly what she wanted.....ATTENTION!
I would love to see a response from that young lady's mother. Surely she taught her better than that! It wasn't even a "dressy" short that came to her knees. Frankly at that length, even a skirt would have been inappropriate. She clearly didn't need or want this job.
In 1988, when I was 21, I bought a tan linen shorts suit in Paris and wore it to the office (a law firm) fairly regularly in Austin, Texas. The shorts were knee-length, and I never wore them without the matching jacket. Eventually I picked up a black and white houndstooth shorts suit and maybe one other. I LOVED them. So, obviously, I’m not opposed to shorts for work. But they really need to be knee-length and a little looser than hers. And if you’re looking for work, and the recruiter suggests you go home and change, then … go home and change. Unless you don’t want the job.
Knee length short suits in the 80's at a law firm? Who are you kidding? Even if you were a law partner, I do not believe you were not called on your attire. There is no way.
@@zethraelofteldrassil3149 How dare you?! I wouldn’t joke about something as important as a shorts suit that I wore 35 years ago. 😂 I was a 21 year-old summer litigation assistant (summarizing depositions, prepping documents for trial) just returned from a year studying in Italy. The houndstooth short suit that I bought a year or so later was Anne Klein and came from Dillard’s, in Barton Creek Mall. So … maybe your perceptions of 80’s fashion - and Austin - are just a little off. 🤷🏼♀️
Poor thing! Not only did she confirm a plethora of stereotypes but she also makes the case for what's missing in school curriculum beyond the 7th grade. But in all fairness - it's great she sought employment!!! I'm just curious to know what job she was interviewing for - perhaps that was appropriate attire 😂
I have broken fashion norms during interviews before. I have worn a pink and white polka-dot button up with a Lacoste-Style Alligator Loki patch -- and got the job. I have worn "loud" colored nails, and I've been wearing natural hair in corporate WAY before it was widely accepted. But I dress and style myself with care and intention. If she had paired the shorts with a patterned tight and a long duster, she would have been interpreted as daring, yet pulled together. No amount of clothing is going to cover a stank attitude, though. And I think that's her biggest problem.
The employer dodged a bullet. The candidate demonstrated a lack of respect, a lack of awareness of the situation, and lack of discretion, a lack of humility, and a lack of class.
This is runover from our new "anything goes" society. People wear all kinds of inappropriate clothing in public. Just got to Wal-Mart. Noone has any self-respect. We went from the extreme of covering every inch of our bodies to the other extreme of showing everything (short, tight, see-through, fat rolls hanging out, butt cheeks showing, etc.) Can we meet somewhere in the middle please?! She was mostly covered, so she saw her outfit as super conservative. In her mind, that was a "mature" outfit. She is the woman who would wear booty shorts to the grocery store. Frankly, neither the top nor the shorts were very flattering on her. OMG...our society is in trouble!!!
I had jury duty earlier today and I wore very strictly business attire (dress pants, collared shirt, tie, etc). There were jurors wearing crop tops, leggings, graphic t-shirts, jeans, shorts and sneakers. It looked like they walked off the streets while going to court.
My workplace had to make the dress code more strict bc some were taking casual Friday too far. For example, wearing T shirts with cartoon characters on them. I work at a school. You shouldn't dress just like the students. It takes away from your professionalism.
A top executive also advised me to never wear perfume at an interview. Perfume / aftershave can distract interviewers by reminding them of people they may have had a bad, sad, or toxic experience with.
This shouldn’t even be a thing!! Even my 16 year old son knows what to wear for a job interview! He had his first ever interview at a fast food restaurant last week and wore a dress shirt, blacks slacks and black shoes… and he ironed everything himself!!
You are so correct. I have seen ladies coming in with their "Easter outfits, including the hat," tight, tight, tight pants, blouses showing way more than necessary, skirts/dresses way too close to their "assets." You name it, I have seen it. They are so glad I do not work in HR, because a lot of them would be fired right on the spot.
If you refuse to dress appropriately for an interview with a corporate organization, then you are not a good candidate for the job. Most companies have a basic dress code.
This goes beyond her TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE interview outfit. There is a generation of folks who refuse to conform to anything. As a Manager and small business owner I have come across extremely insubordinate and entitled employees who want to be on social media while clocked in. Treating customers as if they are disrupting them, not acknowledging that the customers are the reason they get a paycheck. This is the fault of the parents who didn't TEACH them proper job hunting skills. In my house we were taught to be early, respectful and conservative in our dress. What makes an unemployed person thinks that the employer needs to change for THEM. I hired two young men who were waiting to interview with me based on the simple white shirt,black slacks and shoes they wore. They didn't have a lot of experience but ended up being great workers. Attitude is everything too.
She totally wanted to go viral. She probably made the interview part up! If she doesn't know better, she can Google "dress for a job interview" and get videos like this one. Everything she had on was too small, and she had the nerve to shout out Target! 😄 They can use her in an ad of what NOT to wear even on days off from work!
That company dodged a bullet they are very lucky I’m surprised they were going to allow her to come back. You can’t even go to a fast food restaurant for an interview in shorts she was more concerned about video taping it instead of not getting the job.
My first corporate job after college, I found out about casual Friday and came on the next one dressed in a T-shirt, jeans (which were fine), and my Jordans to match. I was quickly called into my boss's office. She gave me a warning and printed out the dress code policy for me. I understood at that time she was being nice to me. And I never made that mistake again. They were being nice to you, with a second chance interview.
I work in the fashion industry in NYC. When I have gone on interviews, I go in knowing that you dress fashionably, non offensively. All black tasteful dress always works., they need to see that you have a professional sense of style. Also, You should always dress like you think your future boss would dress. Your first interview, most likely will be meeting with only two people: the receptionist, and the HR manager. They are the gatekeepers, the eyes and ears of the Managers of the company. If you don’t get past them at the first interview, that’s a problem.
My mom taught me to dress/look how I wanna be addressed. You have to remember that you’re the one who is seeking the opportunity, not the other way around.
Y’all a couple of weeks ago at work a fellow colleague wore a bright pink tshirt, tiny running shorts (the paper thin kind) and a giant scarf around her neck and Teva sandals. She sauntered back and forth through the office as I watched flabbergasted. Later I was talking to a higher-up colleague, one who makes hiring and advancement decisions and she actually brought it up. She said she had seen the same lady and was appalled and had made note of how she was dressed. It’s best to try to always dress appropriately and present well because you never know who is watching!
Thank you for addressing this. It's important information to know, especially the "read the room" comment. I worked with a county sponsored employment agency who would assist with resumes and interviewing, and they said - if you have to ask if your garment/accessory is appropriate, it's probably not. Every place I've worked has a dress code, and not once have I ever seen that shorts are appropriate to wear at work, even the places where I worked exclusively on the phone and was not seen by the general public. That said, that this young lady refused to take the hint or any advice from the interviewer, and she based her assessment of how she looked exclusively by her own standard of professionalism; that company dodged a bullet!!
I have noticed the same in speech. I was working in a covid testing place during that time period. There were some young people who instead of using Mr./Miss/Mrs Last name just called up people using their first name because according to them it was more comfortable. It hurt my soul every time it happened.
Couple things. I was told a long time ago that doing due diligence would pay in full. When I was going into my first corporate role, I drove to the company’s location and observed what the employees wore as they went in/ out of the building. Company culture/ how you fit into the existing culture allows interviewers to see you as already part of the organization. Presenting something opposite that can be jarring as they don’t know you, what you offer and what you bring to the table. Play by the rules into your in and have proved yourself, then show up in your target shorts if you want to.
We’re not even allowed to wear that outfit to work in the office on a day to day basis, casual Friday or an office function, so…. to an interview, naw sis. You haven’t been in ANY professional setting and seen other women dressed that way.
I actually loved dressing up for work and then changing when I got home and feeling like work was done. I was a fundraiser and ran all kinds of events and loved getting dressed up. I see so many young people on Reddit being told how to dress for a wedding and then they have no idea what cocktail or formal attire means. I also see people at funerals wearing jeans! I guess 🤔? I think it started when people stopped being embarrassed to be out in public in their pajamas.
As an older millenial, I have definitely noticed that around the 2000s, there was this push back against suits and it has gone way too far the other way. Business attire means no cleavage, no rips, no mesh and no patches. Nothing should be skin tight. Fitted is fine, but second skin is not. Tops for both men and women should be opaque. Pants should be capri or full length. Again if it comes above mid shin then it is too short. EDIT: You reminded me. Sweats and sportswear are out. That gym bra thing you wear to work out in. I know, it's comfy, but it's for sport not for work unless you are a personal trainer. Jeans are generally fine for casual if they are dark wash and intact. Ripped is no and lighter colours (including acid wash) tend to look unprofessional. The biggest red flag for me in the video was not the shorts. Yes, they were too short. The biggest red flag for me is her reaction. The very entitled and combative attitude she pulled even with accommodations being made tells me exactly how she would be as an employee. That attitude is only going to get worse if she is hired and is going to make her very difficult to work with. I think she really needs to take a moment to realize that her attitude, not just her shorts, is why she should not be hired.
Saw a woman back in the day come to a job interview with white stockings that had tiny hearts on them. It was suggested they buy diff stockings but she said no I wont change them. Ladies do not wear these. it better to be without than wear hearts on them. Wear what you will after you are hired.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Come on sis, PREACH! The Business Attire breakdown was PERFECT!✨ TEACH THE GIRLS! BECAUSE YOU CAN’T GET THE BAG IF YOU AREN’T DRESSED FOR IT! As a professional millennial I see so many women dressed incorrectly bc they just aren’t aware and it’s so sad. There are so many influencers steering them wrong so thank you for your time & effort🤍
You only get one chance to make a first impression. Opportunities (certain opportunities) only come once and they should never be taken for granted. A nice Blazer, a dress/ pants/ skirt and shirt and a simple but cute pair of heels. That's not hard to buy or wear!!! And hold the attitude! Jesus, these children 🤦
I totally agree with everything you have said in this video. But what I really want to point out is just how truly beautiful you are. Your hair, your make up, your attire, your speech, your attitude, your energy. Thank you for caring about your own presentation. Simply beautiful.
How can you think that your clothes being clean is even a thing worth being mentioned? I mean hopefully they are, but that's not something that should be surprising enough to be underlined? Advice for people who are not used to wear very formal clothes: wear them at home when no one is around, so you get used to move in them and you won't feel like you're wearing a costume. That will help you feel confident during your interview.
It's crazy how people understand code switching when it comes to how you speak in professional settings, but don't seem to understand that fashion is a visual language & a dress code is giving you the code you need to switch to while in that setting. Code switching can be applied to all forms of language, even visual & body languages!
When I worked at walmart my clothes were green or blue t-shirts and kaki or tan colored pants and I did have a pair of black dress pant shorts that were at my knees. I came in on my day off and everybody kept asking me were I was going all dressed up? I was wearing dark was jeans and a top. I told them "this isn't dressed up, this is my regular clothes." I wasn't going to spend a bunch of money on tops and blouses that get all ripped up from rough edges and things to get caught on. I had already ripped a couple of shirts and those were the thick cotton ones.
To me, the younger generation of women have been overly sexualized. They have no problem in showing their bodies that's where this inappropriate dressing is coming from. The shorts I would only wear inside of my home never outside. Mums and Dads need to explain to their children the importance of not exposing their bodies and what the implications are. I have noted some of the older generation jumping on this bandwagon - Halle Berry etc. Women seem to showing everything nowadays while men still remain covered head to toe.
This is why mothers and fathers are essential to children. My mother taught me this as well as my father. Growing up I was not allowed to leave the house in sweatpants or pj bottoms.
I was hoping that she was at least wearing those longer tailored shorts that have wide legs and go to just above the knee that have been very popular this summer. I’ve seen lots of celebrities wearing them with the matching blazer. But no. Her shorts were inappropriate for work, period. They were too tight, and they didn’t go past her fingertips when her arms were down. Shorts, skirt, and dresses that don’t pass the fingertip test are too short for the office. Also, was she wearing the same top for the interview as well? Because if so, that t-shirt was also inappropriate. It was a tight, basic white t, and too casual for an interview. All around fail.
I once worked at a place that specifically mentioned "no garments with topstitching" ie, jeans and jean jackets. This was at a bougie fabric store where I would occasionally have to teach people how to topstitch or help people find topstitching threads & needles!
Did everyone watch "The devil wears Prada" where Andy showed up for an interview at a FASHION magazine wearing mismatched clothes, and also openly looked down on fashion, knew nothing about the company, magazine, or person she was going to be working for, and also complained about the fact that the person conducting the interview was not at all interested in hiring her despite all of these things? That's what this girl reminds me of. Who wears shorts to an interview unless you're planning on working at a golf course?
@@ladyinredbottoms9696 No, this is simply the real world summary of what happened in that movie. We're supposed to be on Andy's side in the movie, but the reality is, she went to that interview woefully unprepared and with the wrong attitude. She would have ended up at auto universe.
But she literally got hired because the people before hand who did have the right fashion proved they weren’t capable of the job, did you watch the movie with your eyes closed? If she’s qualified for the role, not hiring her because of shorts is poor behaviour on the company’s part, especially since young professionals do wear shorts at the office
Her attitude about it is what would turn me off as an employer. It tells me that she isn't willing to learn her job, and the companies way of doing things. She will be more trouble than worth it.
Because that's all they see on the TV, phone and tablet. It's sad, and this lady wholeheartedly thinks she's right. The world is all about acceptance now but there's a limit where no matter what your personal opinion is. No way you working in a kitchen or a corporate office and wearing a shorts.
Because that's all they see on the TV, phone and tablet. It's sad, and this lady wholeheartedly thinks she's right. The world is all about acceptance now, but there's a limit where no matter what your personal opinion is. There is no way you are working in a kitchen or a corporate office and wearing shorts.
Back in the '80s I worked for an optometrist. We needed another dispenser, and one young woman came in wearing skin tight pants, f***k-me shoes, a lacy bra, and I am not kidding, a see-through sheer blouse with a plunging neckline because evidently she wanted the doctor to not miss anything. Her hair was teased and sprayed to the max, and her makeup was trowelled on and only appropriate for a nightclub. Thank goodness we didn't have social media at the time. Even the horn-dog doctor didn't want anything to do with her. That sheer blouse...smh.
A simple Google or Pinterest search would have told her everything she needed to know. Even if your recruiter is wearing a t-shirt and jeans, I will initially wear business attire until I AM TOLD to dress otherwise. This lets them know you made the effort to show respect for the consideration to interview. Simple makeup, long sleeves, no cleavage, below knee skirt, simple stud or hoop earrings, contained hair.
THIS. I have worn jeans and a t-shirt or blouse every single day working as a business owner in multiple industries for the last 20+ years. And I don't much care what my employees wear once they are hired, as long as it is clean, well maintained without holes, and I can't see their nips, buttcrack, or toes. But prospective employees don't know that, and I expect interviewees to dress appropriately, I consider it the first test of whether they possess good judgment. If someone asks in advance how to dress for the interview, I tell them business casual, and then take extra-special note of their chosen attire.
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The fact that they gave her the option to change clothes and start over again and SHE SAID NO is crazy. It gives off the “nobody can tell me anything” attitude. It seems like she’d be more drama than it’s worth
Exactly! I wonder if this was done to go viral on social media.
I would interview her, but have nothing else to do with her. Ignore the elephant in the room. Lol. 😂
@@Ambi1021I think it's she probably did for views some our people do or say things for viral
A lot of people were pointing this out as well.
Many HR mangers were saying they would not have asked her to come back.
You also make a great point about drama.
Imagine her attitude once she received the job? 😳
Her attitude is enough for her to be disqualified. She will only get worse if she is given the job.
I said the same thing to my friend. 💯
@@rosam674 Exactly right.
@@rosam674 lol!
In her choice of words or her energy presence-wise🤔? She appears civil and collective in the way I view it, even though her opinion was a bit silly.
Absolutely NO shorts, in addition, her top was also too tight.
I am an HR Manager. I do many interviews. If I was that Recruiter, I would interview her but she would not get that job. These types of interviewees will cause many problems once they get hired.
I think you make a great point as well.
Being an HR manager, I know you have seen and heard it all!
@@yv8740 quit judging by the cover! Many a people have changed their outer garments to fit someone else agenda and have turned out to be rotten apples. Would the lady wearing a two piece black pant set been a better employee???? Can you say?
No need to waste time. Just don't interview
@@rosaperks1873
Yes, I will interview the candidate since it was already scheduled. Most HR professionals will be consistent with their ways (rules) to prevent lawsuits which is our main responsibility anyway.
My company is hiring. Three candidates had on spandex and tank tops..
Nooooo...
The fact that she was defiant and rebellious during the interview, says that she would have been the same way on the job if they would have hired her. She would have been a problem.
Exactly
Whoa, they dodged a bullet. Imagine if they hired her, she'd give them trouble from day one
This is the comment I was looking for. 💯
@@ameyer9366 Agreed, she posted it on SM and would have posted any and everything they did, especially if she disagreed with it.
She seems to have the opinion that a difference of opinion is an attack on her person. What’s wrong with black slacks lol, but really, visit the company’s website, see what is being worn in the photos, and match that, it’s good to have some conversational pieces about the corporate culture anyway.
It’s one thing not to know something and correct the situation, but she stood ten toes down in her ignorance. That’s what is so baffling to me🤦🏽♀️
She wasn’t being ignorant, she was being arrogant.
@@janschild in defense of the woman whom you condemn she has courage something I think many of you in the comments lack! That baffles me.
I don’t think she was being honest, she was being passive aggressive. She never wanted that job in the first place.
@@TT_09 exactly. It was content plain and simple. The content creators making content about the content is pure thirst for attention also and the people in the comments just want to talk!!!!
@@MsLadyCymp You call that "courage"??
She said she’s been in all types of professional environments but yet she wears shorts to an interview lol never have I ever or seen anyone wear shorts to an interview. This was extremely unprofessional, what you wear does matter, appearance matters.
You are absolutely correct, what you wear matters and so does appearance.
This is being lost with your younger generations.
I’ve not seen shorts but have seen leggings(yoga pants) and open toe shoes. I couldn’t believe it!
That outfit was extremely casual. I don’t understand why she chose any of those pieces.
I was always told to dress for the job you aspire to have. I wonder what her dream job is?
@@shellybaby5th cabana girl 😂
Honestly I think that woman was either "rage-baiting" or trolling for engagement. In the past year I've noticed many videos of people being inappropriate for interviews are popping up on social media.
I was wondering this. She clearly didn't need or want the job if she canceled the follow up. And, she achieved her goal if what she wanted was her 15 minutes of fame.
Yeah especially how she said she just saw them lying there and decided to wear them. Plus the Target sponsorship shoutout 😭
I hope so because someone said she is 28! There is or should be no way at that age she doesn't know what's appropriate.
I kind of thought that too. these kids do everything for attention any more
I have never worked in an office that allowed us to wear shorts.
I kid you not. I work in a. Corporate office and I have seen people in HR wear shorts
I work for a corporation that allows knee length chino type shorts, not denim
@@yolandaray6862 Also, wait until you get the job. See how everyone else dresses. Ask questions, then start literally “following suit”
@@yolandaray6862 who has?
We are but they must be knee length and tailored
As a Gen Xer, I was taught 3 things when it comes to my appearance:
1. You never get a second chance to make a first impression.
2. You dress how you want to be addressed.
3. A loose translation of an Ibo(Nigerian) proverb, If you want to avoid war, do not send your toughest fighter to broker peace. Basically, dont let your messenger distract from your message.
Regardless of my personal convictions, I believe that as long as you're not hurting anyone, do you. As a business woman, i can tell you that companies are all about profits and public perception. Even if you're interviewing for a backroom job, you will be 'judged' on your appearance and your attitude BEFORE your 'perceived' competence. ❤
@@ngoziagbakwu2328 taking this way to serious. The girl wasn't interviewing to be CEO of a Fortune 500 company! As quiet as it's kept making a good impression isn't limited to what we wear....think on that!
FACTS this is the best post award.... So true.
Facts on top of Facts. Couldn't agree more. Love the Naija proverb 🙌 love from 🇬🇭
@@akosua8779 Hi Sis!🙋♥️😘
@@p.i.e.management9245 That's kind of you. Thank you ♥️
Even when I interview for non-office jobs with children and animals I’ve never thought to show up in something as casual as shorts. I usually do a business casual look.
Yes. I have seen people interview for a fast food job in a suit.
@@KlassicallyKept I was once told after the interview that I was overdressed, and jeans were fine. Even though I knew the job could get a little messy, we were working with printers and ink, I never would have shown up for the interview in jeans.
Exactly. When I went for a job interview at a pet hotel, I was in business attire. Loved that job, hated to leave it but it didn't pay much. Lost 25 lbs walking dogs everyday.
Maybe an interview for a lifeguard? But even then khakis and a polo would probably be a better choice than shorts.
I dress in business attire no matter what job i interview for unless specifically told to wear something different.
This!
I have seen candidates dress in business casual for a fast food job interview.
@@KlassicallyKept I worked at a temp job years ago and I still remember the manager that use to come talk to us office staff in the morning about his interviews. Now mind you, I never saw him wearing anything else but coveralls because the nature of his job. But despite this, he still would say to us "I know this is a maintenance job...but I still would like people to dress up for the interview. At least business casual with a tie."
The manager wanted to be impressed by your resume and how you dressed because to him that proved that you really wanted the job.
Please and thank you❤❤❤❤❤❤
When I was in school we had programs like Dress For Success and Future Business Leaders of America. I guess public education has largely done away with those programs unfortunately.
Same! I'm a jeans and t-shirt person and prefer jobs where I can dress down, but I ALWAYS dress up for the interview. I've been interviewed by people wearing jeans and t-shirts and I will let them know how eager I am to work in a casual atmosphere so that they will know that I am adaptable and will dress for the occasion.
She’s definitely not desperate for a job then 😩 the mentality is insane. That employer dodged a bullet.
She did it out of attention and will soon be forgotten, she will only be remembered for her lack of professionalism and this will hinder her from getting other jobs.
@@alicefla81 no it won't because this wasn't ever real! It was for clicks and views. Got y'all lol
@@MsLadyCymp Yeah. But people will remember her for this nonsense, I would never hire her or want to work with her. Hope she gets money from social media or whatever her hustle is. It's clear she don't want a job.
Yes. As someone who has interviewed and hired in a medical setting. I can say, ones social media is looked at.
@@MsLadyCymp It sure isn't a joke to the recruiter or hiring manager who finds this when doing a background check. Hope the joke is worth your career.
@@hope3290 my career isn't questionable! Stick to the subject at hand. I said what I said. Thank you. P.S. to bad you can't relate to what was going on. It wasn't a career but an interview. Quit attempting to sound intelligent you ended up sounding foolish.
Starting a new job next week and during the in-person interview I wore black slacks and a feminine dark red long sleeve button up. Also wore brown flat loafers. My hair was in a sleeked back bun and I wore very light makeup
Very simple, clean and sleek, especially for those who might not have the means to afford a fitted suit. Made a good impression since I got the job
Now that the court of public opinion has spoken - I too am convinced this was little more than a publicity stunt!!!
@@Zan.Evan.Dawson1243 exactly and these grown folk in here all bent out of shape because of their lack of discernment! I'm
tickled!!!!
@@MsLadyCymp Thanks for the positive response 😁
i believe so, she has content creator in her bio for her social media page.
Asking Target to sponsor her!!! Straight up DELULU!!
Why she would think target would want to sponsor her because their shorts lost her an interview, like what?
I'm sorry but she know's better than to show up to an interview dressed like that. I would NEVER show up like that unless, I didn't really want the job to begin with. I always dress business professional for interviews. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.
I agree. My first job was for a fast food chain here in Canada and I dressed Business Casual for my interview. I got the job almost immediately and I worked there for 3 years.
Hello Ambi. You make a really good point.
Many people in the comments were saying she didn't really want the job anyway or she was not serious.
Maybe she does not have anyone to guide her, but when the recruiter tried to give her a hint she did not receive it well.
…lol…but as the old folks would say, “common sense ain’t common”.
And as I’ve experienced working with people from all walks of life and from different age groups, what might be reasonable to me might be absolutely ridiculous to the next person. Add to that the fact that some people HATE to be told what to do, especially when it doesn’t agree with what they are determined to do anyway.
If she has never been told or shown she wouldn't know. We are living in a time when young women arent taught anything, how to dres , speak appropriately , even wrtie and evelope.
This I witnessed young girl had to be early teens couldn't fill out an evelope hat to show her how. This is how young people are not if its not on a computer or social media they
don't know anything.
Exactly she knew better, therefore, she didn't do it...but if she did it was solely for content.
Idc if she was being interviewed for a job at the Mac Donald's. That outfit was tacky and screamed i don't care. She should also know that being plus size makes certain outfits ride up. If i were the recruiter, she'd be out very quick.
My parents would have knocked me into next week if I wore shorts to an interview. Even when I was in college, we had a module on interviewing and how to dress. Clothing doesn’t have to be pricey to look put together. Most of my interviews now are on videoconference and I at least look the part from the waist up 😂
lol if I were in a situation where I was living at home and interviewing for jobs I would not have been able to leave the house. My mother would have politely said Lets try again Mya-Karren.
When I attended college speech class was mandatory to graduate. On the day of your speech you had to wear business attire. If you were not dresses appropriately you did not present.
Unless it was an interview for a swimming pool lifeguard..nope, just nope.
@@KlassicallyKept everyone was trying to excuse her by saying she lives in San Antonio. I live in Austin and never went to an interview or work dressed like that. My daughter also knows better than this.
@@KlassicallyKept My dad took me shopping for a nice skirt and blouse for an interview at a grocery store when I was 15…
I wore flats because I’d never worn heels before and Dad said an interview was not a good time to practice !
I got the position, and stayed all the way through college - it was a great first job !
PS I still have the skirt - lightweight wool in black, knee-length, with a slim black belt - and it still fits more than 40 years later 😉
nope, she was in the wrong. short shorts were not appropriate for an interview. and doubled down like she did nothing wrong and even said she was overqualified for the job. anyways 😂 with all of her response videos I'm convinced she's just trolling the audience for views now lol
lol This!
I Will give her the benefit of the doubt ( very lightly) that she truly may not have known you do not wear shorts to an interview. To me it seems after she garnered some much attention she chose to take the situation and address it in a differently. In her response video she is smiling and giggling and she even pitched Target to work with her.
Apparently it’s working.
@@auggiedoggiesmommy1734 yh 🤣 she got her social media fame, good for her
Im 23 and just finished my masters and I had to go through the recruiting process with multiple companies. My school literally coached us on how to show up in front of these companies. We were told: business professional. always. As in a matching suit set. I wouldn’t even wear shorts in a business casual environment. I wonder who was guiding her through the recruiting process. And I’m trying to figure out what professional environment she was in that made her think shorts were acceptable.
Thank you for putting this out there and congratulations!
When I was in college speech class was a requirement to graduate. On the day of your speech you were to dress up and if you were not dressed appropriately you would not present.
Also ALL business major students were required to dress up for class.
I wish you much success!
This is the difference between secondary education and not. Js
Congrats on getting your masters so young 🎉🎉🎉 wish you more success
That was my thought. If her mama didn't tell how to dress, I would think that her school counselor would
@@crissoathank you!
I agree with you 100%. It's a generation gap on what is work attire or interview attire. I interviewed a young black woman once and not only did she have on plain clothes but she also had on a bonnet cap. Not a turban. A bonnet. When I tell you I took the biggest sip of my coffee to prevent myself from laughing. I was in shock!
And just like some ladies in the comments pointed out it is not all Gen Z, enough young women are presenting themselves like this for it to be a problem.
What???😳 I would laugh but it’s actually disturbing.
That's really sad we are failing our younger generations by being too scared to hurt feelings
The clothes you wear to an interview should send the message that you are ready to work, that you are appreciative of the opportunity to interview, and that you care enough to make a favorable initial impression. Shorts are very casual, relaxed attire and could send the message that the prospective employee is not seriously interested in the position. I would want to maximize my chances of getting the job by presenting myself in a way that sends a serious message. The young lady in the video needs to become aware that there will be recruiters that do not share her views about what constitutes professional attire. She comes across as very sure that her skill set is so stellar that she doesn’t need to make an effort to impress.
@@deannac5026 In the workplace you get fired for "hurting feelings", especially for certain demographics. Not even lying about that. I have no idea how we got here but it is not good.
I'm an older millennial. We were taught in high school how to dress for the real world. We were expected to dress appropriately in high school, which carried over to college and the real world. Today, when adults try to implement rules of dress in school or anywhere else, it's considered "body shaming." I've seen young people at the high school bus stop in pajamas, shorts, and skits that make it impossible to sit or bend body con dresses, etc. So this is a by-product.
P.S. I worked in jail, and you wouldn't believe the clothing some of my coworkers thought were ok🙄
I'm GenX. We weren't even allowed to wear shorts to school. We had mock interviews, career day, had clubs like like Future Business Leaders of America. Even in college we dressed to impress. It was nothing to see students in heels, suits, and carrying briefcases. They are not rooted in reality. Everything isn't social media.
I’m 28 and they surely taught us in school. When you don’t care, it doesn’t matter what others have taught.
I’m 31 and when I was in my last two years of education (6th form in the uk) we were expected to dress in business/office wear.
Most 6th forms just allowed non-uniform, as casual as they wanted. But for us it was suits for the boys with ties, and girls in skirt and blazer and blouse
The commentary regarding the generational gap has a lot of grace. A lot. To me it’s a perfect example of entitlement or at the very least, a huge misunderstanding of what discrimination actually is. The dictionary is a dusty book these days.
Company aesthetics is and always will be just that. The ‘look’ of the company. Part of deciding to work somewhere should always include whether you’re willing to look like it on the daily. There are people who have a say in company aesthetics, if that’s not in your job description, stay on your lane.
The rule of thumb my father gave me was, dress at least one step above what you see every employee wear. If they’re casual dress, go business casual. If they’re business casual, go business. If they’re business, go Sunday best on mute.
Sad to say, one of my first jobs out high school was Abercrombie. What did the employees wear? Very Casual. What did the company models wear? Sometimes nothing apart from bikini bottoms and flip flops. Or just a pair of pants for the men. What did I wear to that interview?
Full business.
There you are lol. You always have the best commentary.
I love the advice your father gave, often times on my traveling assignments I was the most dressed up.
You do make a great point about entitlement. The recruiter tried to give a hint, and the young lady was so worried about being "right" and standing her ground that she did not receive what was being said to her and the fact that the recruiter was trying to help.
I had a boss who sent out a memo “if you would wear it to a club, don’t wear it to work.”
Dress for the job and it’s better to reschedule than be late.
Short and to the point lol
As a Gen-Z person, I was raised correctly and know decorum very, very well. There are a lot of us that do, but yeah, some don’t.
The key word here is "raised." It's the job of your parents and family unit to teach, instruct, and guide young people, from getting along with others and behaving in public to dressing appropriately for the many activities you'll encounter. Nowadays, parents are disengaged and too busy living their lives to concentrate and raise their children. Not everything that plays well on social media is acceptable or translates to real life. The flamboyant rappers, influencers, and entertainment personalities should not be role models, nor should their in-your-face antics.
Hello Mya , they always told us to dress to impress on an interview. I don’t understand why she wore shorts was she trying to go viral. Thanks for sharing 💜🌸
As was I Patricia, as was I!
@@patriciajenkins9458 that young lady knew better. She knew exactly what she was doing....she wanted to go viral....got people all in a chokehold for attention. I'm so tickled at the sheer naivete* of grown folk not being able to discern fact from fiction. Jesus!!!!!!
not me thinking it could have been pant suit shorts.. guuuurlll was she going for a picnic at the park? this new generation is going to have a rude awakening soon
lol exactly I thought the same. Like maybe she had on professional looking knee length Bermuda shorts or something . But no…
Or maybe not. Maybe most people in the "new generation" will simply stop upholding these dress codes and the older bosses will just have to deal with it because they'll retire
@@VixxKong2 I get your point but those shorts were a no no .. some standards must be kept, you wouldn't have people in government wear bikinis to meetings or summits..
@@VixxKong2I don't think so. Even Gen X, Millennials will know this is unacceptable. I think most older Gen Z knows not to wear shorts too. Now Gen Alpha will probably want to normalize wearing bonnets and PJs to interviews but I pray we are ALL retired before then😂
@cynthiaholland13
Well I'm genz. I'm sure it's not gonna be everyone agreeing, but most people I know care more about being comfortable in their clothes. They're not too concerned about dressing to impress their employers. They even hate their employers.
I honestly wish we could live in a world where you get work based on your skill, and not get rejected because they don't like your clothes, or your tattoos, or your piercings, or your brains.
I like this overall, and definitely agree that shorts shouldn’t be worn, but I think it’s worth stressing that after the interview and once you get the job, you should observe and match your environment.
For my current job (at an energy company), I wore a black skirt suit, with a white dress shirt and medium heels for my interview. After accepting the job, i have assimilated into more of what everyone else wears and incorporated my own style into it. Casual cute dresses, jeans (moderate rips are worn by a lot of the ladies), and t-shirts/ sweatshirts are the norm here. It’s all about what the company allows. But you do have to make that good impression at first to get in.
As a person who has conducted many interviews, I agree they were nice to allow an option to change. Additional tip for interviews for both men and women. Show as little skin as possible. Make the interviewers concentrate on your skill set present in your resume. If you wear jewelry, be modest. Post earrings, single string necklaces etc. If you want to show something, let it be your personality that wows them. Skirts are ok but again modesty is the key. If you can wear that skirt to the club later cause it’s short and club tight, that’s not the one. I have interviewed people in brightly colored pant suits and found it not to be a distraction. Probably because they were covered up (jacket, pants and blouse etc.). Remember, you are representing what’s on the resume you submitted. If you interviewing for the fashion industry, maybe, but ANYWHERE else, shorts a no at any length.
Your look is so beautiful and classy! I love the all-white outfit; you pull it off so well!
So absolutely stunning!
No shorts, no cut off jeans, no flip flops 🩴. Should I go on? And yes I’ve had people show up to be interviewed like this 🤦♀️💆🏾
I've seen lots of people show up for jury duty this way
A had a girl at my offica a few months ago shpe up to interview with a messy bun baggy t shirt, yoga pants, and crocs. 😀 that was wild.
I love seeing dapper people out and about. My favourite sight is an old man in his sunday best, on a random tuesday, tipping his hat ’good mornin’
lol love this
I give my comment here directly after seeing her attire. I am a middle aged woman from Europe and although in these days some might hold my skin color against me per se, I firmly believe in common sense and that race should not be our defining factor. Now, going to a job interview with this young lady’s attire would raise eyebrows everywhere in every country, in every company, except for a go-go bar, probably. The way you dress is always a measure of politeness and respect towards the other person or your environment. It also shows how much effort you are willing to put into looking presentable, even if the result is mediocre. But it also conveys your maturity and ability of good judgment. Most interviewers in this case would have judged her by her wobbly appearance (being quite overweight myself I know very well about the necessity of keeping body parts from excessive swinging and wobbling) and went over to the next candidate. The company seems to have quite high standards and class, as they not only demand more coverage, but are also giving her a new, fresh second opportunity. Unfortunately this young woman has obviously not been taught a sense of humbleness or self-awareness, because no sensible mother would let walk her daughter out of the house to a job interview in such an outfit. Hopefully insight and understanding will come with age and maturity, not bitterness and rejection.
Short answer NO 😂
"short" answer, I see what you did there😂
I am glad Tyreshia has such strong principles." I am personally relieved that she will never have to worry about working in my federal agency.
Our agency had to institute a dress code when the millennials entered the workforce. Yoga pants, flip-flops, and tee shirts were flooding our hallways.
We dress business corporate in my division. You are expected to dress as you are meeting higher-ups or potential clients.
Like one of one of my coworkers told me: dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.
"she will never have to worry about working in my federal agency. " ... she will never have to worry about working Period
@@zethraelofteldrassil3149 Exactly!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I would never even think about wearing shorts to an interview. When I interviewed atMcDonalds when I was 15.5 yeard olf I wore a dress and panyhose!!
Why didn't she just just wear a skirt if she possibly wanted freedom for her legs? I used to wear a skirt (below my knees), that was what was appropriate for the jobs I used to interview for. In the career field I am in now, I either wear slack pants or scrubs. I always wear a button-up shirt now. It looks put together.
I really enjoyed listening to you. You are not just lovely in your look and presentation (Love the flowers in your hair) but you are clearly also a lovely person inside based on your demeanor.
To answer your question, I once worked in an environment where jeans and t-shirts was the dress code. EVERYONE still arrived for their interview, with a guy wearing said jeans and t-shirt, in formal business attire. We never wore that outfit again.....but we interviewed in it!
Good evening and thank you.
You have stated what many people in the community have. I remember sitting in fast food restaurants and young men would come in suits for an interview. Were they going to be wearing a suit to serve at Burger King, no, but the showed up in a suit to get the job.
I am a part of gen z (‘04), and the claim that “gen z doesn’t have a concept of there being ‘a time and a place’” is completely true. A girl came up to me the other day in a cropped tank top, a flannel, and short shorts, and asked me if it was appropriate to wear to a student teaching position.
Oh dear! Well each generation has its faults the goal is to improve on them- but first you have to acknowledge them! Sounds like you are mature person, and immaturity can be found at any age unfortunately. I wish you the very best and success young one! Love from genX🤗
This is wild, a Jamaican the words we heard a lot were “decorum” and “etiquette” growing up, dress how you want to be addressed is very real. Didn’t matter if I was interviewing to be a barista or a consultant, it’s always formal office attire, I use this rule of thumb, if it doesn’t need an iron, don’t wear it to an interview! You can keep it simple. White blouse, tailored grey/blue skirt (below the knee) or trousers and some leather flats or low heel courts.
Hello my fellow Jamaican. Heard both words from my mother and grandmother all the time.
My people are in the comments 🇯🇲 ❤
I appreciate that you explained the differences between business and business casual!
thank you
I'm almost certain everyone knows (male and female) how to dress for an interview....including that young lady.....I have to give her credit here because got exactly what she wanted.....ATTENTION!
I would love to see a response from that young lady's mother. Surely she taught her better than that! It wasn't even a "dressy" short that came to her knees. Frankly at that length, even a skirt would have been inappropriate. She clearly didn't need or want this job.
In 1988, when I was 21, I bought a tan linen shorts suit in Paris and wore it to the office (a law firm) fairly regularly in Austin, Texas. The shorts were knee-length, and I never wore them without the matching jacket. Eventually I picked up a black and white houndstooth shorts suit and maybe one other. I LOVED them. So, obviously, I’m not opposed to shorts for work. But they really need to be knee-length and a little looser than hers. And if you’re looking for work, and the recruiter suggests you go home and change, then … go home and change. Unless you don’t want the job.
Knee length short suits in the 80's at a law firm? Who are you kidding? Even if you were a law partner, I do not believe you were not called on your attire. There is no way.
@@zethraelofteldrassil3149 How dare you?! I wouldn’t joke about something as important as a shorts suit that I wore 35 years ago. 😂 I was a 21 year-old summer litigation assistant (summarizing depositions, prepping documents for trial) just returned from a year studying in Italy. The houndstooth short suit that I bought a year or so later was Anne Klein and came from Dillard’s, in Barton Creek Mall. So … maybe your perceptions of 80’s fashion - and Austin - are just a little off. 🤷🏼♀️
Dress for what you want, not what you have
adding I've worked in jeans and tshirt places and still didn't wear shorts.
I was taught this as well
Poor thing! Not only did she confirm a plethora of stereotypes but she also makes the case for what's missing in school curriculum beyond the 7th grade.
But in all fairness - it's great she sought employment!!!
I'm just curious to know what job she was interviewing for - perhaps that was appropriate attire 😂
I have broken fashion norms during interviews before. I have worn a pink and white polka-dot button up with a Lacoste-Style Alligator Loki patch -- and got the job. I have worn "loud" colored nails, and I've been wearing natural hair in corporate WAY before it was widely accepted. But I dress and style myself with care and intention. If she had paired the shorts with a patterned tight and a long duster, she would have been interpreted as daring, yet pulled together. No amount of clothing is going to cover a stank attitude, though. And I think that's her biggest problem.
So true!
Not only are they short but they’re not even an appropriate length
The employer dodged a bullet.
The candidate demonstrated a lack of respect, a lack of awareness of the situation, and lack of discretion, a lack of humility, and a lack of class.
This is runover from our new "anything goes" society. People wear all kinds of inappropriate clothing in public. Just got to Wal-Mart. Noone has any self-respect. We went from the extreme of covering every inch of our bodies to the other extreme of showing everything (short, tight, see-through, fat rolls hanging out, butt cheeks showing, etc.) Can we meet somewhere in the middle please?! She was mostly covered, so she saw her outfit as super conservative. In her mind, that was a "mature" outfit. She is the woman who would wear booty shorts to the grocery store. Frankly, neither the top nor the shorts were very flattering on her. OMG...our society is in trouble!!!
I think we so at the same Walmart... 😅
They are such victims in their own minds
I had jury duty earlier today and I wore very strictly business attire (dress pants, collared shirt, tie, etc). There were jurors wearing crop tops, leggings, graphic t-shirts, jeans, shorts and sneakers. It looked like they walked off the streets while going to court.
My workplace had to make the dress code more strict bc some were taking casual Friday too far. For example, wearing T shirts with cartoon characters on them. I work at a school. You shouldn't dress just like the students. It takes away from your professionalism.
A top executive also advised me to never wear perfume at an interview. Perfume / aftershave can distract interviewers by reminding them of people they may have had a bad, sad, or toxic experience with.
I was warned against perfume, but I was told the concern was fragrance allergies. Nothing ruins an interview like the boss going into anaphylaxis.
This shouldn’t even be a thing!! Even my 16 year old son knows what to wear for a job interview! He had his first ever interview at a fast food restaurant last week and wore a dress shirt, blacks slacks and black shoes… and he ironed everything himself!!
Her trying to solicit Target was hilarious & ridiculous 😂. Really lets you know the mindset
You are so correct. I have seen ladies coming in with their "Easter outfits, including the hat," tight, tight, tight pants, blouses showing way more than necessary, skirts/dresses way too close to their "assets." You name it, I have seen it. They are so glad I do not work in HR, because a lot of them would be fired right on the spot.
Immediately No lol. Okay let me watch the video and see it that changes, but immediately No 😂😂😂
lol agreed.
If you refuse to dress appropriately for an interview with a corporate organization, then you are not a good candidate for the job. Most companies have a basic dress code.
This goes beyond her TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE interview outfit. There is a generation of folks who refuse to conform to anything. As a Manager and small business owner I have come across extremely insubordinate and entitled employees who want to be on social media while clocked in. Treating customers as if they are disrupting them, not acknowledging that the customers are the reason they get a paycheck. This is the fault of the parents who didn't TEACH them proper job hunting skills. In my house we were taught to be early, respectful and conservative in our dress. What makes an unemployed person thinks that the employer needs to change for THEM. I hired two young men who were waiting to interview with me based on the simple white shirt,black slacks and shoes they wore. They didn't have a lot of experience but ended up being great workers. Attitude is everything too.
She totally wanted to go viral. She probably made the interview part up! If she doesn't know better, she can Google "dress for a job interview" and get videos like this one. Everything she had on was too small, and she had the nerve to shout out Target! 😄 They can use her in an ad of what NOT to wear even on days off from work!
That company dodged a bullet they are very lucky I’m surprised they were going to allow her to come back. You can’t even go to a fast food restaurant for an interview in shorts she was more concerned about video taping it instead of not getting the job.
My first corporate job after college, I found out about casual Friday and came on the next one dressed in a T-shirt, jeans (which were fine), and my Jordans to match. I was quickly called into my boss's office. She gave me a warning and printed out the dress code policy for me. I understood at that time she was being nice to me. And I never made that mistake again. They were being nice to you, with a second chance interview.
I work in the fashion industry in NYC. When I have gone on interviews, I go in knowing that you dress fashionably, non offensively. All black tasteful dress always works., they need to see that you have a professional sense of style.
Also, You should always dress like you think your future boss would dress. Your first interview, most likely will be meeting with only two people: the receptionist, and the HR manager. They are the gatekeepers, the eyes and ears of the Managers of the company. If you don’t get past them at the first interview, that’s a problem.
She did her very best to help out the rest of those that applied 😊
If she wears that to the interview, she will wear that and worse if she is hired.
HR suggested she go home to change clothes, she refused with an attitude!: I wouldn't hire her to flip burgers!
😂
My mom taught me to dress/look how I wanna be addressed. You have to remember that you’re the one who is seeking the opportunity, not the other way around.
Y’all a couple of weeks ago at work a fellow colleague wore a bright pink tshirt, tiny running shorts (the paper thin kind) and a giant scarf around her neck and Teva sandals. She sauntered back and forth through the office as I watched flabbergasted. Later I was talking to a higher-up colleague, one who makes hiring and advancement decisions and she actually brought it up. She said she had seen the same lady and was appalled and had made note of how she was dressed. It’s best to try to always dress appropriately and present well because you never know who is watching!
Thank you for addressing this. It's important information to know, especially the "read the room" comment. I worked with a county sponsored employment agency who would assist with resumes and interviewing, and they said - if you have to ask if your garment/accessory is appropriate, it's probably not. Every place I've worked has a dress code, and not once have I ever seen that shorts are appropriate to wear at work, even the places where I worked exclusively on the phone and was not seen by the general public. That said, that this young lady refused to take the hint or any advice from the interviewer, and she based her assessment of how she looked exclusively by her own standard of professionalism; that company dodged a bullet!!
Absolutely NOT. Its not a wonder she was rejected....
I have noticed the same in speech. I was working in a covid testing place during that time period. There were some young people who instead of using Mr./Miss/Mrs Last name just called up people using their first name because according to them it was more comfortable. It hurt my soul every time it happened.
It only took one time for a student to call me by my first name and not my title, and the entire student body heard about it.
No wonder my company had an update policy sent to us. She was the reason 😳
Never , ever wear shorts to any interview .
Couple things. I was told a long time ago that doing due diligence would pay in full. When I was going into my first corporate role, I drove to the company’s location and observed what the employees wore as they went in/ out of the building. Company culture/ how you fit into the existing culture allows interviewers to see you as already part of the organization. Presenting something opposite that can be jarring as they don’t know you, what you offer and what you bring to the table. Play by the rules into your in and have proved yourself, then show up in your target shorts if you want to.
We’re not even allowed to wear that outfit to work in the office on a day to day basis, casual Friday or an office function, so…. to an interview, naw sis. You haven’t been in ANY professional setting and seen other women dressed that way.
I actually loved dressing up for work and then changing when I got home and feeling like work was done. I was a fundraiser and ran all kinds of events and loved getting dressed up. I see so many young people on Reddit being told how to dress for a wedding and then they have no idea what cocktail or formal attire means. I also see people at funerals wearing jeans! I guess 🤔? I think it started when people stopped being embarrassed to be out in public in their pajamas.
As an older millenial, I have definitely noticed that around the 2000s, there was this push back against suits and it has gone way too far the other way. Business attire means no cleavage, no rips, no mesh and no patches. Nothing should be skin tight. Fitted is fine, but second skin is not. Tops for both men and women should be opaque. Pants should be capri or full length. Again if it comes above mid shin then it is too short. EDIT: You reminded me. Sweats and sportswear are out. That gym bra thing you wear to work out in. I know, it's comfy, but it's for sport not for work unless you are a personal trainer.
Jeans are generally fine for casual if they are dark wash and intact. Ripped is no and lighter colours (including acid wash) tend to look unprofessional.
The biggest red flag for me in the video was not the shorts. Yes, they were too short. The biggest red flag for me is her reaction. The very entitled and combative attitude she pulled even with accommodations being made tells me exactly how she would be as an employee. That attitude is only going to get worse if she is hired and is going to make her very difficult to work with. I think she really needs to take a moment to realize that her attitude, not just her shorts, is why she should not be hired.
I think "my body my choice" makes many people forget about dress code.
She did that for attention
Saw a woman back in the day come to a job interview with white stockings that had tiny hearts on them. It was suggested they buy diff stockings but she said no I wont change them.
Ladies do not wear these. it better to be without than wear hearts on them. Wear what you will after you are hired.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Come on sis, PREACH! The Business Attire breakdown was PERFECT!✨ TEACH THE GIRLS! BECAUSE YOU CAN’T GET THE BAG IF YOU AREN’T DRESSED FOR IT!
As a professional millennial I see so many women dressed incorrectly bc they just aren’t aware and it’s so sad. There are so many influencers steering them wrong so thank you for your time & effort🤍
thank you
You look absolutely gorgeous in this video; hairstyle, makeup and outfit are lovely!
Thank you
You only get one chance to make a first impression.
Opportunities (certain opportunities) only come once and they should never be taken for granted. A nice Blazer, a dress/ pants/ skirt and shirt and a simple but cute pair of heels.
That's not hard to buy or wear!!! And hold the attitude! Jesus, these children 🤦
I totally agree with everything you have said in this video. But what I really want to point out is just how truly beautiful you are. Your hair, your make up, your attire, your speech, your attitude, your energy. Thank you for caring about your own presentation. Simply beautiful.
Thank you!
I do want to point out lol I am wearing mascara and a little eyeliner in the corner of my eyes.
I cannot do makeup !
How can you think that your clothes being clean is even a thing worth being mentioned? I mean hopefully they are, but that's not something that should be surprising enough to be underlined?
Advice for people who are not used to wear very formal clothes: wear them at home when no one is around, so you get used to move in them and you won't feel like you're wearing a costume. That will help you feel confident during your interview.
It's crazy how people understand code switching when it comes to how you speak in professional settings, but don't seem to understand that fashion is a visual language & a dress code is giving you the code you need to switch to while in that setting. Code switching can be applied to all forms of language, even visual & body languages!
When I worked at walmart my clothes were green or blue t-shirts and kaki or tan colored pants and I did have a pair of black dress pant shorts that were at my knees. I came in on my day off and everybody kept asking me were I was going all dressed up? I was wearing dark was jeans and a top. I told them "this isn't dressed up, this is my regular clothes." I wasn't going to spend a bunch of money on tops and blouses that get all ripped up from rough edges and things to get caught on. I had already ripped a couple of shirts and those were the thick cotton ones.
To me, the younger generation of women have been overly sexualized. They have no problem in showing their bodies that's where this inappropriate dressing is coming from. The shorts I would only wear inside of my home never outside. Mums and Dads need to explain to their children the importance of not exposing their bodies and what the implications are. I have noted some of the older generation jumping on this bandwagon - Halle Berry etc. Women seem to showing everything nowadays while men still remain covered head to toe.
This is why mothers and fathers are essential to children.
My mother taught me this as well as my father.
Growing up I was not allowed to leave the house in sweatpants or pj bottoms.
@@KlassicallyKept Your parents were/are correct. I would be embarrassed to were those types of clothes in public.
I was hoping that she was at least wearing those longer tailored shorts that have wide legs and go to just above the knee that have been very popular this summer. I’ve seen lots of celebrities wearing them with the matching blazer. But no. Her shorts were inappropriate for work, period. They were too tight, and they didn’t go past her fingertips when her arms were down. Shorts, skirt, and dresses that don’t pass the fingertip test are too short for the office. Also, was she wearing the same top for the interview as well? Because if so, that t-shirt was also inappropriate. It was a tight, basic white t, and too casual for an interview. All around fail.
This person needs to mature and get a reality check. You have to dress the part. The sooner she realizes that the better for her.
It’s a no for me! No shorts.
I once worked at a place that specifically mentioned "no garments with topstitching" ie, jeans and jean jackets. This was at a bougie fabric store where I would occasionally have to teach people how to topstitch or help people find topstitching threads & needles!
Did everyone watch "The devil wears Prada" where Andy showed up for an interview at a FASHION magazine wearing mismatched clothes, and also openly looked down on fashion, knew nothing about the company, magazine, or person she was going to be working for, and also complained about the fact that the person conducting the interview was not at all interested in hiring her despite all of these things?
That's what this girl reminds me of. Who wears shorts to an interview unless you're planning on working at a golf course?
Girl you're taking things to serious lol
@@ladyinredbottoms9696 No, this is simply the real world summary of what happened in that movie. We're supposed to be on Andy's side in the movie, but the reality is, she went to that interview woefully unprepared and with the wrong attitude. She would have ended up at auto universe.
Golf course. 😂 or Chuck E. Cheese, 6 flags, Busch gardens.
Those shorts would be too short for golf course attire.
But she literally got hired because the people before hand who did have the right fashion proved they weren’t capable of the job, did you watch the movie with your eyes closed? If she’s qualified for the role, not hiring her because of shorts is poor behaviour on the company’s part, especially since young professionals do wear shorts at the office
This young woman is delusional. It’s really unfortunate.
Her attitude about it is what would turn me off as an employer. It tells me that she isn't willing to learn her job, and the companies way of doing things. She will be more trouble than worth it.
They think you do not have enough intelligence for said job, straight up!
Many young adults think Nicki Minaj,JT, and Meg are classy. This generation does not understand class.
You have made a great point.
Stage persona and reality are two completely different things.
Because that's all they see on the TV, phone and tablet. It's sad, and this lady wholeheartedly thinks she's right. The world is all about acceptance now but there's a limit where no matter what your personal opinion is. No way you working in a kitchen or a corporate office and wearing a shorts.
Because that's all they see on the TV, phone and tablet. It's sad, and this lady wholeheartedly thinks she's right. The world is all about acceptance now, but there's a limit where no matter what your personal opinion is. There is no way you are working in a kitchen or a corporate office and wearing shorts.
@@ertfgghhhh you refer to those people as classy ohhh ok🤣🤣🤣
@@KlassicallyKept so are you agreeing that the people named above in your opinion are classy?
Back in the '80s I worked for an optometrist. We needed another dispenser, and one young woman came in wearing skin tight pants, f***k-me shoes, a lacy bra, and I am not kidding, a see-through sheer blouse with a plunging neckline because evidently she wanted the doctor to not miss anything. Her hair was teased and sprayed to the max, and her makeup was trowelled on and only appropriate for a nightclub. Thank goodness we didn't have social media at the time. Even the horn-dog doctor didn't want anything to do with her. That sheer blouse...smh.
A simple Google or Pinterest search would have told her everything she needed to know. Even if your recruiter is wearing a t-shirt and jeans, I will initially wear business attire until I AM TOLD to dress otherwise. This lets them know you made the effort to show respect for the consideration to interview.
Simple makeup, long sleeves, no cleavage, below knee skirt, simple stud or hoop earrings, contained hair.
THIS. I have worn jeans and a t-shirt or blouse every single day working as a business owner in multiple industries for the last 20+ years. And I don't much care what my employees wear once they are hired, as long as it is clean, well maintained without holes, and I can't see their nips, buttcrack, or toes. But prospective employees don't know that, and I expect interviewees to dress appropriately, I consider it the first test of whether they possess good judgment. If someone asks in advance how to dress for the interview, I tell them business casual, and then take extra-special note of their chosen attire.