Nice video. Glad you show the flash capabilities of the A9III. I shot more than 40'000 pictures in the past 4 month in sports and concerts and more than 1000 with flash at dance and sports exhibitions. GS is the way to go. I have tested it with Godox V1, Broncolor Satos 3200 and Sony HVL-F60RM2 flashes. With only 60/70 Joule of flash energy of the SONY HVL-F60RM2 or Godox V1, you can shoot more than 20 Pic/s at 1/256, ISO 250, f/1.8 and 1/80000. With the Broncolor Satos 3200, I even shot more than 60 Pic/s in fast action dance and sports. It's just mind blowing. If you want to avoid the flash timing settings for the various shutter speeds, use the SONY HVL-F60RM2. I use 3 of them in both manual und TTL mode and switch on wireless flash. You can also see and control all the flash settings directly on the display or view finder. I know several wedding photographers, that are now using this combo on several tripods.
I've been looking for real world feedback from a heavy flash user. I'm curious when not using the Sony branded flashes how real world usage is with multiple off camera flash? The only timing chart I've seen published is the Wescott FJ400, and it looks like above 1/1,000s it gets into a really complicated matrix of timing adjustments, many settings are not compatible with other settings. I really like mixing my strobes like my AD600 with AD100s or 200s. You could even tell in the video when he pushed his AD200 up to 1/2 power, it was probably the same power or less than at 1/16 power, likely because he really just needed to adjust timing rather than power. It looks fantastic but I'm concerned it gets so complicated you tend to revert back to ND filter anyway in a lot of situations to keep the delay sync a non-issue.
@@greggeis918 I have never used multiple off camera Godox flashes. I have only used multiple HVL-F60RM2 and Broncolor Satos 3200 flash heads for high frame rates so far. Also, I have used multiple Elinchrome, but only in single shot mode. My primary interest is in high frame rates. By far the easiest way, is using the HVL-F60RM2, as long as the distance of the flash to the subject is within about 5m-10m. If you need more flash power, you will need stronger flashes. All the SONY flashes can directly be adjusted with the camera menu and displayed in the EVF. No timing adjustment is required at all. you can mix and match the output power of tje individual flashes to your liking.
I wonder if you would get the same result with your A9II, a shutter speed below 1/250s and a 10-stop ND filter having all other ingredients/factors remain the same especially your gorgeous subject?
A great camera with so many new features, and you no longer have to worry about the shutter life running out and jamming at a critical moment. Put your bag on the legs of the flash stand, and you'll be happy.
Thank you very much! The MagMod XL is cool and I use it on my Godox AD400, but the point of this video is that you no longer need the power of the 400 with the global shutter of the A9III as the AD200 is more than enough - so no need for the larger modifiers :)
Hi Neil- Impressive! Question- Understand the extreme exposure you got in camera before flash (ambient really dark) - you flashed Olga @ 1/64000 but your sky was evenly exposed....Did you blend ? thx
Thank you very much Steve! You can see all the RAW files in the video, when it came to the editing, all these were made up of single images, I didn't use any composites. I hope that helps?
Neil, have you considered, changing your identity and running off with the A9iii? Seriously, I'm waiting for your video on DR etc, but so far, it looks a hell of an upgrade
It's surprising how little there is online regarding the flash use at weddings. Personally what you gain is not worth what I would loose from my A1 so I will not be getting one (I bought my A1 after the release of the A9MKIII). I am looking forward to the new body design being used on future bodies as my A1 feels like a block of wood in the hand.
I agree! The fact that the A9III means we no longer need high-speed sync is HUGE. The A1 is an amazing camera too - there is no right or wrong choice between the two, it just depends on what your priorities in a camera are. Either way it is great to see Sony innovating like this and showing us what is possible
@@NeilRedfern I do wish Sony would release a lower end stacked sensor camera thats more inline with the price of a Z8. Same body and AF as the A9MKIII with a stacked sensor and normal shutter with 1/400 flash sync and a 36MP sensor. I think it would outsell both the A9MKIII and A1
Not sure it would change anything though. Look at benchmarks of the Canon R3, Nikon Z8/Z9, that are using CFEB at 1800MB/s ... and look at the in camera writing speed: you get 420MB/s for the R3, and between 600 and 700MB/s for the Z9. So, having faster cards does not mean that the camera can handle that, and maybe they must be downclocked too due to heat concerns.
Sie fotografieren doch schon ein paar Jahre. Und wirklich immer wieder tolle Fotos. Und jetzt geht es nicht mehr ohne global shutter? Ich rate zur Vorsicht. Ich schaue wie viele gerne ihre Videos. Sollte aber zukünftig das Credo heißen,das was sie hier sehen klappt nur mit einer a9III, würden sich wohl die meisten Zuschauer woanders umschauen.
Vielen Dank für Ihren Kommentar und für das Ansehen meiner Videos :) Bitte machen Sie sich keine Sorgen - ich besitze nicht einmal einen A9iii. Ich denke jedoch, dass es immer wichtig ist, meinen Zuschauern zu zeigen, welche Technologie verfügbar ist und was sie leisten kann, denn das ist die Zukunft. So wie wir von DSLR auf spiegellose Systeme umgestiegen sind, bin ich mir sicher, dass wir in ein paar Jahren alle auf Global Shutter umsteigen werden. Allerdings besitze ich im Moment auch keinen Global Shutter :-)
Ich schätze ihre Arbeit wirklich sehr.😁 Und ich verstehe natürlich das uns neue Technik interessiert und das sie uns das Leben leichter machen kann. Schließlich arbeite ich selbst mit einer Z9. Aber es ist doch schön das wir als Fotografen den entscheidenden Unterschied machen. 🤓 Ich freue mich auf viele weitere tolle Videos von Ihnen.
Neil my Nikon Z8 is on order for my birthday ….. I was VERY HAPPY … STOP MAKING VIDEOS ! Hahaha! The Z8 is $4700 Canadian… the A9-3 is 6 or 7k USA $$$ so 5 trillion Canada $$. STOP THE INSANITY! Noooooooo ( but secretly YES )
You stated 1/80000s, but do you mean 1/8000s? I saw you take photographs at 1/16000s but that is the max. Almost no flash can keep up with that shutterspeed at 1/80000s.
@@NeilRedfern The shortest flash duration of AD200 is 1/13000 sec at 1/128 power. At 1/1 power the t 0.1 is 1/300 sec. That means you loose a lot of the light when shooting at 1/80000 sec shutterspeed. You would get all of the t 0.1 flash in the exposure if not using shorter speed than 1 /13000. But you will get more if you can adjust the sync so that the exposure hit the 1/80000 peak of flash light. 🙂
Thank you Pat! It is crazy, I couldn't get my head around the fact I was shooting at such fast shutter speeds and the flash appeared to be so powerful! It's very exciting
Nice video. Glad you show the flash capabilities of the A9III. I shot more than 40'000 pictures in the past 4 month in sports and concerts and more than 1000 with flash at dance and sports exhibitions. GS is the way to go. I have tested it with Godox V1, Broncolor Satos 3200 and Sony HVL-F60RM2 flashes. With only 60/70 Joule of flash energy of the SONY HVL-F60RM2 or Godox V1, you can shoot more than 20 Pic/s at 1/256, ISO 250, f/1.8 and 1/80000. With the Broncolor Satos 3200, I even shot more than 60 Pic/s in fast action dance and sports. It's just mind blowing. If you want to avoid the flash timing settings for the various shutter speeds, use the SONY HVL-F60RM2. I use 3 of them in both manual und TTL mode and switch on wireless flash. You can also see and control all the flash settings directly on the display or view finder. I know several wedding photographers, that are now using this combo on several tripods.
I've been looking for real world feedback from a heavy flash user. I'm curious when not using the Sony branded flashes how real world usage is with multiple off camera flash? The only timing chart I've seen published is the Wescott FJ400, and it looks like above 1/1,000s it gets into a really complicated matrix of timing adjustments, many settings are not compatible with other settings. I really like mixing my strobes like my AD600 with AD100s or 200s. You could even tell in the video when he pushed his AD200 up to 1/2 power, it was probably the same power or less than at 1/16 power, likely because he really just needed to adjust timing rather than power. It looks fantastic but I'm concerned it gets so complicated you tend to revert back to ND filter anyway in a lot of situations to keep the delay sync a non-issue.
@@greggeis918 I have never used multiple off camera Godox flashes. I have only used multiple HVL-F60RM2 and Broncolor Satos 3200 flash heads for high frame rates so far. Also, I have used multiple Elinchrome, but only in single shot mode. My primary interest is in high frame rates. By far the easiest way, is using the HVL-F60RM2, as long as the distance of the flash to the subject is within about 5m-10m. If you need more flash power, you will need stronger flashes. All the SONY flashes can directly be adjusted with the camera menu and displayed in the EVF. No timing adjustment is required at all. you can mix and match the output power of tje individual flashes to your liking.
thats it i’m sold. Buying this asap
I wonder if you would get the same result with your A9II, a shutter speed below 1/250s and a 10-stop ND filter having all other ingredients/factors remain the same especially your gorgeous subject?
Love Olga and the A9 III
3:36 What Flash Timing milliseconds did you apply for your AD200 at the 1/256, 1/128 and other power settings?
Hi! Thanks for video! So, isn’t it possible to shoot on the A1 with a flash on an electronic shutter up to 1/32000?
A great camera with so many new features, and you no longer have to worry about the shutter life running out and jamming at a critical moment. Put your bag on the legs of the flash stand, and you'll be happy.
Agree on all points! 😊
Awesome pictures. 🔥🔥🔥Big fan. But how come you didn’t use the MagMod XL as your softbox?
Thank you very much! The MagMod XL is cool and I use it on my Godox AD400, but the point of this video is that you no longer need the power of the 400 with the global shutter of the A9III as the AD200 is more than enough - so no need for the larger modifiers :)
@@NeilRedfern I should have known that. Lol. 🤦🏻♂️.
Keep up the great work sir.
Hi Neil- Impressive! Question- Understand the extreme exposure you got in camera before flash (ambient really dark) - you flashed Olga @ 1/64000 but your sky was evenly exposed....Did you blend ? thx
Thank you very much Steve! You can see all the RAW files in the video, when it came to the editing, all these were made up of single images, I didn't use any composites. I hope that helps?
Maybe I missed it but at some point isn’t your shutter faster than the flash duration time?
Yes, see 3:32 🙂
@@NeilRedfernthanks!
I think the model is underexposure about 2 more stop, but A93 is game changer! thank you for your sharing. :)
Great Video!!
Thank you very much 🤗
Super masterpies!!!🔥👍🏻
Thank you very much!
Neil, have you considered, changing your identity and running off with the A9iii? Seriously, I'm waiting for your video on DR etc, but so far, it looks a hell of an upgrade
😂😂😂 that's a great idea..... ✈😂
It's surprising how little there is online regarding the flash use at weddings. Personally what you gain is not worth what I would loose from my A1 so I will not be getting one (I bought my A1 after the release of the A9MKIII). I am looking forward to the new body design being used on future bodies as my A1 feels like a block of wood in the hand.
I agree! The fact that the A9III means we no longer need high-speed sync is HUGE. The A1 is an amazing camera too - there is no right or wrong choice between the two, it just depends on what your priorities in a camera are. Either way it is great to see Sony innovating like this and showing us what is possible
@@NeilRedfern I do wish Sony would release a lower end stacked sensor camera thats more inline with the price of a Z8. Same body and AF as the A9MKIII with a stacked sensor and normal shutter with 1/400 flash sync and a 36MP sensor. I think it would outsell both the A9MKIII and A1
Olga the grate . what a camera .
I agree!
I reeeeaaaallllly want one!!!! 😖
So do I! 😂😂😂
If only Sony installed PCIe 4.0 so it can get the new 1800MB/s CFEA cards it might've been even greater.
Not sure it would change anything though. Look at benchmarks of the Canon R3, Nikon Z8/Z9, that are using CFEB at 1800MB/s ... and look at the in camera writing speed: you get 420MB/s for the R3, and between 600 and 700MB/s for the Z9. So, having faster cards does not mean that the camera can handle that, and maybe they must be downclocked too due to heat concerns.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube That's solid info. And for overheating they should make the FX3/30 standard going forward on top alpha cameras.
Sie fotografieren doch schon ein paar Jahre. Und wirklich immer wieder tolle Fotos. Und jetzt geht es nicht mehr ohne global shutter? Ich rate zur Vorsicht. Ich schaue wie viele gerne ihre Videos. Sollte aber zukünftig das Credo heißen,das was sie hier sehen klappt nur mit einer a9III, würden sich wohl die meisten Zuschauer woanders umschauen.
Vielen Dank für Ihren Kommentar und für das Ansehen meiner Videos :) Bitte machen Sie sich keine Sorgen - ich besitze nicht einmal einen A9iii. Ich denke jedoch, dass es immer wichtig ist, meinen Zuschauern zu zeigen, welche Technologie verfügbar ist und was sie leisten kann, denn das ist die Zukunft. So wie wir von DSLR auf spiegellose Systeme umgestiegen sind, bin ich mir sicher, dass wir in ein paar Jahren alle auf Global Shutter umsteigen werden. Allerdings besitze ich im Moment auch keinen Global Shutter :-)
Ich schätze ihre Arbeit wirklich sehr.😁 Und ich verstehe natürlich das uns neue Technik interessiert und das sie uns das Leben leichter machen kann. Schließlich arbeite ich selbst mit einer Z9. Aber es ist doch schön das wir als Fotografen den entscheidenden Unterschied machen. 🤓 Ich freue mich auf viele weitere tolle Videos von Ihnen.
Neil my Nikon Z8 is on order for my birthday ….. I was VERY HAPPY … STOP MAKING VIDEOS ! Hahaha! The Z8 is $4700 Canadian… the A9-3 is 6 or 7k USA $$$ so 5 trillion Canada $$. STOP THE INSANITY! Noooooooo ( but secretly YES )
Haha!! You will LOVE the Z8, it's a beautiful camera!
You stated 1/80000s, but do you mean 1/8000s? I saw you take photographs at 1/16000s but that is the max. Almost no flash can keep up with that shutterspeed at 1/80000s.
I did indeed mean 1/80,000 - it's crazy! And my AD200 could do it. This is why I state in the video that the A9III is revolutionary
@@NeilRedfern I thought the only flashes that would keep up were Broncolors. But that's a great achievement from Sony and Godox.
@@NildoScoopthe beauty of the A9III is that any light can sync at 1/80,000s, not just Godox.
@@NeilRedfern The shortest flash duration of AD200 is 1/13000 sec at 1/128 power. At 1/1 power the t 0.1 is 1/300 sec.
That means you loose a lot of the light when shooting at 1/80000 sec shutterspeed. You would get all of the t 0.1 flash in the exposure if not using shorter speed than 1 /13000. But you will get more if you can adjust the sync so that the exposure hit the 1/80000 peak of flash light. 🙂
Brilliant what you can achieve at those speeds I can seethe macro community rushing to try it aswell ! look forward to the next video.
Thank you Pat! It is crazy, I couldn't get my head around the fact I was shooting at such fast shutter speeds and the flash appeared to be so powerful! It's very exciting
Stop it Neil ffs. I’m skint enough already 😂
Haha, you and me both! But this is the biggest advancement in photography (if you like flash!) since mirrorless imo 😬
@@NeilRedfern I’m so incredibly tempted, but I’m holding out for the A1 mkii and hope it has it.
And what about black-free lcd or viewfinder????
Never again!!!! And super autofocus!!! ????