Same. With modern hardware things typically just work well. Its awesome, but the fun of squeezing out as much as possible and having hardware do things never expected of it isn't there anymore. That's my perspective and why I enjoy it at least, but I'm so old that when I got into computers the "ibm compatible" pc hadn't been invented yet and my 1st computers ran at less than 1mhz, so I kind of miss having to squeeze as much as possible out of hardware :)
FSR is a lifesaver for older GPUs ,like the 1050Ti being able to play cyberpunk with higher settings ..which wasn't possible without FSR ..good to see this
Yea on my 6800xt it took me from 4K/30 FPS with all rt on except lighting to 40fps. And the image actually looks 4K now unlike FSR 1.0 which struggled keeping the image super crisp.
I tested this mod before (I have a video on my channel) and it's really impressive despites the visual issues. I hope to see FSR 2.0 officially implemented in the game soon.
Hey man i have been very interested in your videos and watched a lot of them. Please consider making a videos dedicated to 5700G (with vega graphics) in Minecraft and shaders maybe (if you want with AND without overclocking GPU) Thanks for the great content!
Wow its really playable on a iGPU. Thats great. FSR2 ultra performance looks like an hugh compressed video. Really strange. Yes. Iris XE graphics is a little bit faster.
Description says: 1080p Low / FSR 2.0 performance - 14:52 (not FSR 2.0 performance, it's FSR 1.0 ultra performance) ◾️ Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition ▶️ Ryzen 5 5700G Playlist - *link* ) Anyways nice video, didn't think that FSR 2.0 will be so good compare to DLSS considering that can run in any gpu (and thats just a mod).
Could be! But the modding community also addressed the AMD SMT issues in cyberpunk faster than CDPR... Actually, I think they never fixed it now that I think of it
I've noticed some trails occasionally when running native in Cyberpunk. Especially around the walking animation of NPCs' legs for some reason. Some weirdness with TAA implementation maybe?
you can use image sharpening in the amd adrenaline software settings up to 100% for sharper and cleaner image, in my case my 5600g perfectly runs 1080p quality as if it was 1080p ultra quality
I can play cyberpunk, 1080p, medium (texture high) at 70/90fps on my RX5708Gb (I play locked at 60 so it stays at 80% of usage) That's a awesome mod (also it has a version which this blur it's fixed)
Nah, its created because fsr2.0 (and dlss) reconstructs an image based on the surrounding frames. Notice how it doesn't happen with native (which is even lower frame rates) and fsr 1.0? Thats because they don't use the same sort of image reconstruction. Ghosting is different and influences an entire image, not just portions.
Did you notice the weird artefact with the shadow at the rear of the car the image reconstruction creates? I didn't notice it at 1st, but once I did I couldn't stop noticing. I completely understand why, but its probably the single most extreme case of artefacts created by frame based reconstruction I've seen. Kind of leaves a trail of rear of the car as a reflect-ey type shadow. Could be a cool effect in the right game if it was intentional :)
@@therealgonggong8636 yes, I understand why, which is why I said I understand why and even loosely elaborated as to why :P Its just an extreme and interesting example of frame/temporal based artefacting
This is likely where the difference lies between inputs necessary for DLSS/FSR 2.0. these kinds of effects don't have the proper masks FSR 2.0 expects & therefore has no solution available to avoid ghosting.
or you have use 1080p with performance fsr2.0 and 66% sharpening since its 540p upscaled and that is perfect pixel scaling so will look great on 1080p monitor.
It should perform better now that fsr 2.1 is officially supported, also he should be using DDR4 4000mhz ram, that would give it a substantial boost since those APU's are very sensitive to ram speeds, allocate 4gb at least to the gpu, and overclock it, it should do 2300-2400 with minimal voltage increase.
Hey zwormz, im a huge fan and i wanna ask is a rtx 3060ti with ryzen 5 3600 good or will it bottleneck? Also i live in palestine so everything is overpriced so an asus tuf is 630 dollars do you recommend it or an rtx 3060 ti for like 100 dollars more, sorry for like 1000 questions lol
Hi mate i need your advice i have this cpu and rx 6600xt and i cant achive same fps as u have in games. Like in rdr 2 i have 75 fps and i dont have the game on max preset and the same happend in Gta V where u get like 188 fps and i have like 90 fps maybe more idk exactly with same graphics settings is that bcs of my cpu if i would get something like ryzen 9 5900x will i have same fps as you? Thank you for your answer and btw my gpu is overclocked too
I have the same processor no offload video card so Which motherboard did you use for this test because you can upgrade the memory from 400 MB all the way to 4 GB and I highly suggest you use a 3600 or even a 4200 megahertz ram 32 GB ram kit
It's showing that because of bios having the iGPU being set with 512mb of ram dedicated for it. Even though its using more than that, Afterburner or any monitoring software can only display up to what was dedicated to the iGPU. if he had it set to 2gb, it'd likely show 2gb being used. Though in any case, it doesn't really matter as the iGPU will use as much as it needs to. Which is also reflective in system ram usage being at 10gb usage when normally its around 7.6-8gb on this config with a dedicated GPU.
Kryzzp, is it better to buy r5 5600G or i5 12400 with h610 motherboard? Because I can't afford b660 motherboard or any dedicated gpus. They are extremely expensive.
If you can't get a dGPU and will be exclusively using the iGPU, then the 5600G. The iGPU in the Ryzen parts are A LOT faster than the iGPUs in the Alder Lake parts.
cant you use rsr with fsr 2.0 at the same time? for me at 918p or 900p with fsr 2.0 quality and 66% sharpening the image looks very close to native 1080p on my 24inch monitor. and it gives like 40% improvement. on dedecated gpu not vega graphics. and its undervolted my gpu. I get like 50% gpu usage with cyberpunk at high settings 60fps locked this way. Note my method is nis 66% with dlss quality but for amd users its rsr with fsr 2.0
Pretty sure on average the Intel xe (tiger lake and alder lake) are better than the vega 8 on ryzen 5000... But apparently the 680m (12 core RDNA 2) on the ryzen 6000 APUs are alot better then the Intel xe
FSR/DLSS Balanced is the way to go. My monitor is 1080p and i have a 3060Ti. But why to push my gpu to 100% usage when i get the same quality with this pure "MAGIC" ?
5700G doesn't make sense for gaming rigs. Ryzen 3 2200G vs Ryzen 7 5700G in gaming performance difference is insignificant, while their price difference is gaping.
Hey! Glad you enjoy the videos :D I thought about it actually, seems interesting but I already have scheduled videos for next week, I'm going on vacay :)
Man I dunno why but I really enjoy watching the performance of older or less powerful parts
😅 why?
Same!
@@zWORMzGaming *Perfection*
@@whites2 I dunno man it's just fascinating when you find out how well an older or less powerful part can perform in today's games
Same.
With modern hardware things typically just work well.
Its awesome, but the fun of squeezing out as much as possible and having hardware do things never expected of it isn't there anymore.
That's my perspective and why I enjoy it at least, but I'm so old that when I got into computers the "ibm compatible" pc hadn't been invented yet and my 1st computers ran at less than 1mhz, so I kind of miss having to squeeze as much as possible out of hardware :)
FSR is a lifesaver for older GPUs ,like the 1050Ti being able to play cyberpunk with higher settings ..which wasn't possible without FSR ..good to see this
doesn't dlss works on gtx 10 series?
@@someoneinasia nope
true i remember when cp2077 initially released,my rx470 cant keep a stable 50fps in 1080p with medium
I have a 570 8gb.
@@xstongames4778 highest setting with 1050 ti? Why not medium and have more than 30 FPS?
Honestly, insane that it works as well as it does without insane commitments
FSR 2.0 on Vega 8 iGPU is amazing to look at 🥰🤯👍!
Gotta say that FSR 2.0 is pretty amazing and the fact that it's open source is amazing! Great video Kryzzp!
Just dlss on and cards bah
@@beataoo ?
@@alfonso5177 i meant and cards
@@beataoo and cards?
@@alfonso5177 amd cards... Autocorrect you know
i bought the 85 watt rtx 3070 laptop and really hapyy thanks for suggestion Love you :)
Nice! Enjoy 💪😁
This is actually impressive! Thank you for the video, I appreciate your work alot!
Nice comparison! please do more!
FSR2.0 doubles my frames at 4K and it looks far better than 1440p native.
Damn! That's impressive, I gotta test it with a higher end GPU next 😃
Yea on my 6800xt it took me from 4K/30 FPS with all rt on except lighting to 40fps. And the image actually looks 4K now unlike FSR 1.0 which struggled keeping the image super crisp.
FSR 2.O IS LOOKING AWESOME, I DIDNT EXPECTED THAT , IT LOOKS LIKE DLSS
Very close if you dont pixel peep
no it doesnt, even mod developer says that dlss is much better than this fsr 2.0 mod
@@judyalvarez5866 yea but that's only for rtx cards not for older cards
i have tried it in god of war on a 1440p monitor fsr 2.0 set to quality and unless i was seriously looking for imperfections i could not find them.
at 1080p is not there yet
at 1440p it's 99% there
while at 4K I was blown away how it's undistinguishable it is from DLSS
Finally subbed. Never thought I'd sub to a hardware review channel...
Greaty video!
I recommend in this game to set sharp fsr 2 to the maximum. so even on the balance sheet the picture is much more detailed compared to the native
the best back
thanks kryzzp!
dying light 2 /rdr2 also has fsr 2.0 modes
my brthday is today and kryzzp added video about cyberbug PERFECT
1440p medium settings with fsr 2.0 quality gets 50+ fps on gtx 1070, would recommend it 100%
I tested this mod before (I have a video on my channel) and it's really impressive despites the visual issues. I hope to see FSR 2.0 officially implemented in the game soon.
Great video!
the attention to detail on this guy is insane
Love your Videos :)
Can't wait for amd to release their rdna2 apu's
Great video as always kryzzp ❤
Oh yeah! Same!
Thank you 😃
@@zWORMzGaming
Hey man i have been very interested in your videos and watched a lot of them. Please consider making a videos dedicated to 5700G (with vega graphics) in Minecraft and shaders maybe (if you want with AND without overclocking GPU)
Thanks for the great content!
Can’t wait for Gtx 1630 videos!
kudos amd for making fsr open source
it performed better than i expected LMAO
Wow its really playable on a iGPU. Thats great. FSR2 ultra performance looks like an hugh compressed video. Really strange. Yes. Iris XE graphics is a little bit faster.
havent watched yet obviously but this is my cpu and im fully confident you will reach 4k 60fps no problem 💪
Ur tripping thats an apu
4K 60 is possible with a better GPU, bot with vega 8!
4k 60fps on integrated graphics? Um no.....
@@zWORMzGaming true but if its just the intergrated gpu then it's not possible
I was joking yall lmao, just exaggerating cause I have the same cpu
😂😂 Ngl...I was waiting to hear ...where are you bob 3:07
Good video!
Try overclocking your RAM to 4000MHz (pushing FCLK to 2000MHz), it will improve the perf.
Can't phantom that... This guy doesn't even know what's the best part of them 5k series Apu's!
Description says: 1080p Low / FSR 2.0 performance - 14:52 (not FSR 2.0 performance, it's FSR 1.0 ultra performance)
◾️ Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition
▶️ Ryzen 5 5700G Playlist - *link*
)
Anyways nice video, didn't think that FSR 2.0 will be so good compare to DLSS considering that can run in any gpu (and thats just a mod).
Ahhh I knew I had messed something up with all of those timestamps 😅
Thanks!!
APU power! 😊
I wonder why the modding communi9ty was able to add it before Cd Projekt Red? Strange. Maybe they are trying to address the ghosting issues.
Could be! But the modding community also addressed the AMD SMT issues in cyberpunk faster than CDPR... Actually, I think they never fixed it now that I think of it
@@zWORMzGaming can you make a video in dying light on minimum settings! pls
i hv high hopes for my 6600U aynloki since the igpu can perform like this..i might try 800p medium with fsr2 perf later
I've noticed some trails occasionally when running native in Cyberpunk. Especially around the walking animation of NPCs' legs for some reason. Some weirdness with TAA implementation maybe?
Yeah definitely, every moving thing is noisy even at native res..
hey man, nice video, you can also try fsr 2.0 in Rdr2.
You are the best
You should show the RAM timings as well for these builds that don’t have the 3900X being used. Is it like CL22, CL18?
@Samoerai CL means CAS Latency, it’s one of the things that helps to indicate how much latency a RAM kit has
@Samoerai Yes
@Samoerai Sure thing
you can use image sharpening in the amd adrenaline software settings up to 100% for sharper and cleaner image, in my case my 5600g perfectly runs 1080p quality as if it was 1080p ultra quality
I can play cyberpunk, 1080p, medium (texture high) at 70/90fps on my RX5708Gb (I play locked at 60 so it stays at 80% of usage)
That's a awesome mod (also it has a version which this blur it's fixed)
My card specs: Vcore 1400Mhz and 1070mv (max frames)
And everyday usage: 1286Mhz and 1055mv
that trail you see behind the car is called ghosting it usually happens when u have low fps and your moving fast in game. With low end Graphics
Nah, its created because fsr2.0 (and dlss) reconstructs an image based on the surrounding frames.
Notice how it doesn't happen with native (which is even lower frame rates) and fsr 1.0? Thats because they don't use the same sort of image reconstruction.
Ghosting is different and influences an entire image, not just portions.
@@beezle1976 yes exactly. I didn't know all of it but thx for the right information 👍
Perfect
Interesting video.
FSR>>
Did you notice the weird artefact with the shadow at the rear of the car the image reconstruction creates?
I didn't notice it at 1st, but once I did I couldn't stop noticing.
I completely understand why, but its probably the single most extreme case of artefacts created by frame based reconstruction I've seen.
Kind of leaves a trail of rear of the car as a reflect-ey type shadow.
Could be a cool effect in the right game if it was intentional :)
It is the ghosting from the mod, i am guessing because it is using the dlss temporal data since it is not official, these artifacts will appear
@@therealgonggong8636 yes, I understand why, which is why I said I understand why and even loosely elaborated as to why :P
Its just an extreme and interesting example of frame/temporal based artefacting
This is likely where the difference lies between inputs necessary for DLSS/FSR 2.0. these kinds of effects don't have the proper masks FSR 2.0 expects & therefore has no solution available to avoid ghosting.
or you have use 1080p with performance fsr2.0 and 66% sharpening since its 540p upscaled and that is perfect pixel scaling so will look great on 1080p monitor.
What's the name of the program u are using for showing fps and other things?
Hey Kryzzp, why dont you test you VGA's on Ghostrunner ? It seems to be a very optimezed game!
It should perform better now that fsr 2.1 is officially supported, also he should be using DDR4 4000mhz ram, that would give it a substantial boost since those APU's are very sensitive to ram speeds, allocate 4gb at least to the gpu, and overclock it, it should do 2300-2400 with minimal voltage increase.
Good content 🙂 keep it up ❤️
Thank you 😃
FSR 1.0.2 good settings (output resolution):
- FHD -> personalized 1600*900 Ultra Quality +
- 1440p Ultra Quality
- 4K Quality
Damn that trailing behind the car is horrendous
have u spent money inside games ( like skins )
Back in the csgo peak days, but usually I bought things to sell them at a higher price and buy games
SHALL WE
The most ideal is 900p low with FSR 2.0 Balanced
any more future vids on the 6900 xt a realistic wish?
Hey zwormz, im a huge fan and i wanna ask is a rtx 3060ti with ryzen 5 3600 good or will it bottleneck? Also i live in palestine so everything is overpriced so an asus tuf is 630 dollars do you recommend it or an rtx 3060 ti for like 100 dollars more, sorry for like 1000 questions lol
good pairing, but if you can get a 5600 non x for a similar price go for it.
@@therealgonggong8636 ty but do u recommend asus tuf rtx 3060 or an rtx 3060 ti that costs 100$ more
IGPU and playing on 4k in cyberpunk is nice 😅
Nice quality fsr 2.0
Hi mate i need your advice i have this cpu and rx 6600xt and i cant achive same fps as u have in games. Like in rdr 2 i have 75 fps and i dont have the game on max preset and the same happend in Gta V where u get like 188 fps and i have like 90 fps maybe more idk exactly with same graphics settings is that bcs of my cpu if i would get something like ryzen 9 5900x will i have same fps as you? Thank you for your answer
and btw my gpu is overclocked too
the cpu in this video is a apu.... may i ask why u bought it if u had a graphic card... not trying to be rude just curious 😅
@@_LazySama true i mean apu I built my pc few months ago when gpus were extremly over priced and i had only this apu and like month ago a bought gpu
turn off screen space reflections from the game setting for noise.
Can i know which CPU Cooler are u using?
WAIT, did you see that a bunch of her bumpers appear behind the car?
Hi
Do you have add the Reg Files ?
Because there are just Nvidia entries , is also needed for AMD Cards ?
Hi, yes the mod changes some reg files
@@zWORMzGaming
ok thanks ,
i found it a bit strange before , to run the reg file , with a AMD Graphics Card . and a reg only with Nvidia Entries :D
MOD FSR 2.0 IS POWER AND ORGINAL FSR 2.0 IS GOD POWER 😁😁😎😎
I don't know if you will see this but Kryzzp but can you add Space Engine as a benchmark ?
Would have been nice to see if the sharpness woul fix some of the fuzzyness at the higher oer settings
i love watching things like these, but i will never play like this lmao
bro pls HD 7790 this gpu is good for some games in 2022
Not 5600g. 😔 I'm so much tired. Please make it for all games as soon as possible.
I have the same processor no offload video card so Which motherboard did you use for this test because you can upgrade the memory from 400 MB all the way to 4 GB and I highly suggest you use a 3600 or even a 4200 megahertz ram 32 GB ram kit
Idk if you noticed but the game is only using 512mb I don't think it's using more
It's showing that because of bios having the iGPU being set with 512mb of ram dedicated for it. Even though its using more than that, Afterburner or any monitoring software can only display up to what was dedicated to the iGPU. if he had it set to 2gb, it'd likely show 2gb being used. Though in any case, it doesn't really matter as the iGPU will use as much as it needs to. Which is also reflective in system ram usage being at 10gb usage when normally its around 7.6-8gb on this config with a dedicated GPU.
Sickkkkk
Can you test rx 6400
With older i7 CPU's something like, i7 2600
great
can you test this with rx 6600xt or 6600, maybe they can do 4k60fps?
I noticed the the vega 8 didn't use more than 512 mb of vram .. or is the ram usage showing both ram and vram?
Finaly dlss for al gpus but its only a mod.( but Nice video bro good information i might give it a spin.)
It's fsr 2.0, not dlss
@@sebastiann1905 i was being sarcastic.
512mb v ram mine has 4gb but cant hadle cyberpunk
Plees more test ryzen 5700g more game and battlefield thanks
can you try ryzen 5 5600g?
Kryzzp, is it better to buy r5 5600G or i5 12400 with h610 motherboard?
Because I can't afford b660 motherboard or any dedicated gpus. They are extremely expensive.
if you can't afford to have GPU, then go for 5600G, it would be good to stretch your budget and get i3 12100F and cheap RX 470/480 through.
If you can't get a dGPU and will be exclusively using the iGPU, then the 5600G. The iGPU in the Ryzen parts are A LOT faster than the iGPUs in the Alder Lake parts.
cant you use rsr with fsr 2.0 at the same time? for me at 918p or 900p with fsr 2.0 quality and 66% sharpening the image looks very close to native 1080p on my 24inch monitor. and it gives like 40% improvement. on dedecated gpu not vega graphics. and its undervolted my gpu. I get like 50% gpu usage with cyberpunk at high settings 60fps locked this way. Note my method is nis 66% with dlss quality but for amd users its rsr with fsr 2.0
Pretty sure on average the Intel xe (tiger lake and alder lake) are better than the vega 8 on ryzen 5000... But apparently the 680m (12 core RDNA 2) on the ryzen 6000 APUs are alot better then the Intel xe
Now, TH-cam didn’t notified me now. 😕 WTF?
At least people are finding it through recommended I guess, the video perfomed terribly during the first half hour because no notis 🥲
@@zWORMzGamingTH-cam sucks sometimes
The vega 11 is "way" better that the 8 i would like to see a benchmark with it in this game
Not really, on 5700g vega 8 is actually the most powerful of Vega line, Vega 11 from ryzen 3400g has much lower performance.
@@Adaminkton oh i didn't know that
Pls test ryzen 5 4600g as well 😊 in games and small stream test as well for budget streamers 🙃
Kryzzp, is Intel better in hyperthreading than amd?
AMD's SMT is slightly faster than Intel's hyperthreading, not to the point where it matters honestly :)
FSR/DLSS Balanced is the way to go. My monitor is 1080p and i have a 3060Ti. But why to push my gpu to 100% usage when i get the same quality with this pure "MAGIC" ?
Date: Integrated graphics processor
5 5600g test V-ram---> 8GB and 16GB MAX
32GB RAM TOTAL
Bro my laptop freezes sometimes for 2-3 sec and then backs to normal is this because i have no ssd or any other problem btw informative video 😁
5700G doesn't make sense for gaming rigs. Ryzen 3 2200G vs Ryzen 7 5700G in gaming performance difference is insignificant, while their price difference is gaping.
Why can't this setup hit 4k 30fps with fsr 2.0, my rtx 3090ti doesn't have this issue
hi. you allways make my day but can test gpus in raft too? it is a game.pls
Hey! Glad you enjoy the videos :D
I thought about it actually, seems interesting but I already have scheduled videos for next week, I'm going on vacay :)
Rx 470 8gb msi gaming x i bought it or not.or some other gpu.like 1660 ??
will the performance be same or better or lower
*Ryzen Apu's Are Getting Better Everyday .*
*Kudos To AMD And Shame On Intel With The Weak IGPU*
Hello buddy, can you try 3200U or 3250U or 5300U (amd) please
do you ever have time to actually play all these games? if no, please tell me you played red dead 2 at least :(
No, I wish ahaha