Bruckner - Te Deum

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  • @jeffreyadams648
    @jeffreyadams648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Bruckner lived in another dimension.

  • @augustinberishaj
    @augustinberishaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The last performance of Bruckner's TE DEUM ,which Bruckner himself attended, was conducted by Richard von Perger at the suggestion of Johannes Brahms. On his copy of the score, Gustav Mahler crossed out "für Chor, Soli und Orchester, Orgel ad libitum" (for choir, solos and orchestra, organ ad libitum) and wrote "für Engelzungen, Gottsucher, gequälte Herzen und im Feuer gereinigte Seelen!" (for the tongues of angels, heaven-blest, chastened hearts, and souls purified in the fire!). The composer himself called the work "the pride of his life".

  • @fionaeller7809
    @fionaeller7809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Welch göttlich geschaffene WERKE dieses unglaublichen Genies Anton Bruckner

  • @musiclover148
    @musiclover148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    When I was a kid, I attended a performance of Bruckner's "Te Deum" in Cleveland. Unknown to us, a large contingent of the brass section had been stationed in the rear of the auditorium in a high balcony. When the piece reached the Last Judgment part, so to speak, near the end, the "heavenly" brass instruments began to play and took everyone by surprise. From there to the finish, it was goose-bump city, I can tell you.

    • @texwiller4029
      @texwiller4029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cleveland orchestra is a legend

  • @MrHakka07
    @MrHakka07 11 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The BEST Interpretation of GREAT Bruckner´s TE DEUM...of Course by Maestro
    Herbert von Karajan...MAGNIFICENT...GENIUS!...Thanks Maestro von Karajan!...
    Karajan´s GREATNESS forever!...

  • @kuliimjulischreiben
    @kuliimjulischreiben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This has me so excited to perform this in May!! My choir was supposed to sing it in 2020 and then the pandemic hit. Needless to say, we are all so incredibly glad to be back and to be singing this!

  • @LadyAkratos
    @LadyAkratos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Questa interpretazione mi fa venire i brividi. Bruckner e von Karajan, vera magia.

  • @poncione
    @poncione 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Per uno dei capolavori più grandi della Musica ci voleva una interpretazione meravigliosa e coinvolgente come questa... Karajan una garanzia, ma fantastici anche i solisti, con un Rendall davvero ispirato ed espressivo...

  • @gregs7915
    @gregs7915 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    And yeah, he was back home in Austria when he recorded this, but nothing short of his forty years of experience conducting the Berliners could have prepared anyone to pull off something this complicated so well. The greats wield an enormously positive influence upon each other, not just us.

  • @juliuse.o.fintelmann8083
    @juliuse.o.fintelmann8083 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    There is a reason Bruckner called this his masterpiece.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bruckner *never* claimed this was his "masterpiece". What an absurd comment.

    • @juliuse.o.fintelmann8083
      @juliuse.o.fintelmann8083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kennethdower7425 The composer himself called the work "the pride of his life".
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te_Deum_(Bruckner) :)))))

    • @rayjonas9355
      @rayjonas9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @nikoalfonso8462
      @nikoalfonso8462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @jakehouston3377
      @jakehouston3377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rayjonas9355 free?

  • @gleitma1
    @gleitma1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Bruckner's Te Deum takes you the highest realm of the heavenly music. There are divine things more beautiful than words can tell."

    • @rrickarr
      @rrickarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only when performed like this! I always thought Bruckner's choral music was so boring. Karajan is so aggressive in this and that is where the glory lies.

  • @holstnaumann
    @holstnaumann 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It is regrettable that it is monaural recording. The performance is wonderful. It is truly Bruckner of Karajan.

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's a better commercial recording paired with Verdi's Requiem

  • @gddecker
    @gddecker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely phenomenal performance by Karajan and these forces. Wow!

  • @mohammedalomari1998
    @mohammedalomari1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The beloved Anton Bruckner is the master of all masters.

  • @scitsalcoryp
    @scitsalcoryp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Utterly brilliant....the mono sound does not ruin this
    Thank God for this

  • @chicolopes938
    @chicolopes938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Incredible masterpiece. Wonderful is such a pale word to describe it...

  • @benjamin-hughmackay2094
    @benjamin-hughmackay2094 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A truly great piece of choral music.

  • @atsumoritokyo1101
    @atsumoritokyo1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was also done in 1979 when he visited Japan with the Berlin Philharmoniker. By the way, that day was a coupling with Mozart's Requiem.
    It was, in fact, an unprecedented expedition to Japan on an unprecedented scale that was not feasible in Salzburg, Vienna, or even Berlin. Perhaps there was something in Karajan's own heart that he had for his second home, Japan. BPh's very special full-length, all super-first-class chief players and world-famous soloists, and the Wiener Singverein Chorus, which he was also a lifelong music director like BPh, was a gorgeous in Tokyo only. These were the nights of the concert only in Tokyo Japan. Now, if there is a video of the performance at the Fumonkan Hall at that time, I definitely want to see it. I wonder if it exists somewhere.
    Here are the schedule for the historic performances in Tokyo Japan 1979. ↓
    The Berlin Philharmoniker Orchestra conducted by Herbert von Karajan performed in Japan in October 1979 a total of nine times, all at the now-defunct Fumonkan (Suginami Ward) in Tokyo. It was like similar to Das Große Festspielhaus in Salzburg.
    16th = Mozart: Symphony No. 39 in E-flat major, K.543 / Richard Strauss: Symphonic poem "Zaratustra Talks" op.30
    17th = Mahler: Symphony No. 6 in A minor "Tragedy"
    18th = Schubert: Symphony No. 7 in B minor, D.759 "Unfinished" / Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 5 in E minor, op.64
    19th = Dvorak: Symphony No. 8 in G major op.88 / Mussorgsky (Arranged by Ravel): Pictures at an Exhibition
    Mid-day break
    21st = Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 in D minor, op.125 "with chorus" Anna Tomowa-Sintou (soprano), Luza Baldani (alto), Peter Schreier (tenor), Jose van Dam (bass)
    22nd = Haydn: Oratorio "Haydn: The Creation" Anna Tomowa-Sintou (soprano), Peter Schreier (tenor), Jose Van Damme (bus)
    Mid-day break
    24th = Verdi: Requiem Mirella Freni (soprano), Agnes Baltsa (alto), Luis Lima (tenor), Nicolai Ghiaurov (bass)
    25th = Mozart: Requiem in D minor, K.626 / Bruckner: Te Deum Anna Tomowa-Sintou (soprano), Luza Baldani (alto), Peter Schreier (tenor), Jose van Dam (bus)
    26th = Verdi: Requiem (Solist is the same as 24th)
    In addition to the lineup of famous songs with chorus, Mahler's Symphony No. 6, which was a hot topic when the record was released the previous year, was a "heavyweight" programming with many things to listen to.

  • @dimitargetsov9690
    @dimitargetsov9690 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Te Deum" ---"In Your Hands , O, Lord........" Bruckner,Bruckner, may Your Soul Rest In Peace!
    what am i speaking?
    Your Soul is LIVING !!! AND WILL LIVE FOREVER!!!!!
    YOU ARE ALIVE!
    Te Deum ... ....

  • @gregs7915
    @gregs7915 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is the first performance of this that I've been able to get though to the end. Great musicians and conductors make an immeasurable difference in people's appreciation for the arts. An ex-girlfriend of mine was dying to hear what all the fuss over Ein Deutsches Requiem was about, so I ran out and bought her a recording of it of her own, but she told me it was the most boring thing that she'd ever had to listen to in her life. Well, I put that recording in the trash where it belonged, and gave her my own copy of Karajan's performance. Suffice it to say, that was enough to make her a Brahmsian for life.

    • @jackhousman6637
      @jackhousman6637 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Greg S Try giving your present or next girlfriend the John Elliot Gardiner recording. The end of the 2nd-to-last movement, frankly, leaves me panting for breath. No kidding. Who knows. It may even get you laid.

    • @jackhousman6637
      @jackhousman6637 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Greg S No kidding. It really is wonderful. Take care, and enjoy.

    • @Boltogenta
      @Boltogenta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Klemperer's is superb too.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny as I think Karajan is a complete failure in the Brahms Requiem. The Verdi Requiem he really had down, but the Brahms he just drags out and the chorus muddles the text so that you hardly understand a single word they are singing.
      I know the '64 and '76 recordings. Maybe the '83 recording is better, but I doubt it, since he never drastically changed his approach to any of the works he recorded multiple times.

    • @caginn
      @caginn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Quotenwagnerianer I can't say 83 sound / video recording is 'way' better than the other 2 you've mentioned (also from the one from 40's) but I think it is the best among them. If you've some 70 min. you may give it a try. Available on TH-cam both audio and video. (audio [hendricks] and video [battle] feature different sopranos though)

  • @kateosullivan8410
    @kateosullivan8410 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruckner is so underrated.

  • @MrCantStopTheRobot
    @MrCantStopTheRobot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is absurdly powerful. I can't think of anything in life that this would fit as a soundtrack, unless it involved birth or death.

  • @Baraodojaguary
    @Baraodojaguary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Te Deum laudamus te dominum confitemur te eternum patrem omnis terra veneratur. God have mercy on me especially my sisters in heart since i love them protect them from the great tribulation that is to come

  • @jessasnamoi
    @jessasnamoi ปีที่แล้ว

    7:07 - 8:07 that full blown fff-burst of music never fails to give me goosebumps! how celestial and glorious! Beyond any comparison!

  • @pmg9817
    @pmg9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing music. Crazy good soloists!

    • @annameyer2677
      @annameyer2677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are perfect together❤

  • @wcsxwcsx
    @wcsxwcsx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bruckner's choral works are so much more satisfying.

  • @ysaacperezgarvett3014
    @ysaacperezgarvett3014 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Obra magistral. Inolvidable.

  • @remotoadamotroppovelocelaf868
    @remotoadamotroppovelocelaf868 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Che dire? Siamo all'alfa e omega dell'interpretazione. HvK e i WPh stupefacenti more solito. I solisti dei fuoriclasse.Non avevo maicascoltato Rendall,tenore superlativo potente limpido e chiarissimo. La musica di Bruchner mi fa venire parossismi di tachicardia e dispnea per l'alternarsi dei fortissimi tutti e piano pianissimo talora con sordina per non parlare degli inconsapevoli,forse,sguardi ai confini della atonalita'.

  • @joecaprani5772
    @joecaprani5772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first large choral work I sang as a member of the newly formed RTÉ Philharmonic Choir in Dublin in the early 1980s. I was winging it as a new member, a credible tenor but couldn't sight read for toffee!! But I got there. Haven't listened to this piece in decades and forget about those very long, sustained noted the choir have towards the end and all at the top of their range, sheer cruelty, but what a piece!!

  • @talynhastime9343
    @talynhastime9343 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't know why but I always feel like crying whenever a man's voice soars like at 8:28. Even if what they're singing is happy or reverent, it's a tone that still sounds somewhat anguished and pained and it hits me right in the heart.

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      David Rendall

  • @masintec
    @masintec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's fascinating to see Von Karajan conduct without closing eyes like a zombie, he is really enjoying this music and he looks really happy !

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One talented ‘zombie’…

    • @remotoadamotroppovelocelaf868
      @remotoadamotroppovelocelaf868 ปีที่แล้ว

      I presume that HvK don't close eyes because do not like this composition

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@remotoadamotroppovelocelaf868he did not close his eyes f when composing opera or choral music

  • @takuro5891
    @takuro5891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Usually, Herbert von Karajan ,he closed his eyes. But in this recording, he opened his eyes all times. As if he "play" with the orchestra and chorus.

  • @pega17pl
    @pega17pl 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bruckner and Karajan - two worlds.

  • @belkismartin7019
    @belkismartin7019 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grandioso!!!!!!!🌿

  • @chicolopes938
    @chicolopes938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Infinita Beleza, Infinita Misericórdia

  • @cyrclack5616
    @cyrclack5616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This should be made Europe's anthem

  • @NicholasKuhne
    @NicholasKuhne 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Go Karajan! What a splendid opening.

  • @annasalehpour4210
    @annasalehpour4210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Traumhafte Darbietung. Wunderschöner Tenor 😊
    Deo Gratias

  • @watanabesumioh
    @watanabesumioh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    すごいの一言。改めてカラヤンに敬服する。

  • @Uio857
    @Uio857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruckner, une fois de plus, relie ciel et terre.

  • @valeriapucci9513
    @valeriapucci9513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simplesmente MARAVILHISO...EXPLENDIDOOOOO👏🎶👏🎶👏🎶👏🎶👏

  • @edwinblank58
    @edwinblank58 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wunderbar!

  • @emilianocorradi4079
    @emilianocorradi4079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautifully awesome

  • @Manuquiel
    @Manuquiel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maravilhoso, Divino, obrigado!

  • @Verexon
    @Verexon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Сейчас разучивая это произведение,нашла запись с Гербертом фон Караяном. Это шедевр великого композитора,как в исполнительстве,так и в написании музыки. Только услышав,в таком исполнении,можно понять весь размах и талант композитора и гениального дирижёра! 2.10.2024г впервые у нас в Ростовском музыкальном театре будет звучать эта симфония под руководством Михаила Григорьевича Грановского!!!

    • @CamillaHote-b1t
      @CamillaHote-b1t หลายเดือนก่อน

      J aimerais y être avec vous

  • @jacdfw4838
    @jacdfw4838 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sound is fine on the video (recommended), great performance!

  • @dragicapetrovic9470
    @dragicapetrovic9470 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thank you dear diesillamusicae. It's fantastic ~

  • @furdiebant
    @furdiebant ปีที่แล้ว

    The power of Karajan and the power of Bruckner’s music at one

  • @conw_y
    @conw_y ปีที่แล้ว +4

    26:00 It’s like a rock concert!

  • @AncientOfDays
    @AncientOfDays 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One word - Godly!

  • @TheJamesalden
    @TheJamesalden 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this; for the truly helpful information and timing...that's truly appreciated by many...at least I would think so...Thank You!...

  • @MarcoAntonio-wu9pe
    @MarcoAntonio-wu9pe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muito bela essa obra musical (um monumento musical).

  • @scitsalcoryp
    @scitsalcoryp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome

  • @Silver07Hawk
    @Silver07Hawk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Herbert von Karajan Means "GREATNESS"..

  • @genitun
    @genitun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Detalhe.... sem libreto. Realmente o maestro Karajan primava por suas apresentações.

  • @TheJamesalden
    @TheJamesalden 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the first time where I practically have to turn the sound way down. Something about the recording level?....Thank You!....

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen!

  • @josedejesuslandinbirrueta8375
    @josedejesuslandinbirrueta8375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apoteósicamente excitante. Se considera como el 4to movimiento de la Sinfonía 9 de él mismo.

  • @hansihinterseher9156
    @hansihinterseher9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't really like Karajan's Bruckner - but the Te Deum is one of his best interpretations!

  • @mohammedalomari1998
    @mohammedalomari1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best te deum

  • @emanuelecicchino7256
    @emanuelecicchino7256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brano di grande forza espressiva

  • @yumorules
    @yumorules ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God's musician.

    • @lapintelaurent7956
      @lapintelaurent7956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7:32 ! "Oui, il a beaucoup souffert...il aimait la beauté, mais il n'était pas aussi beau que toi."

    • @SaverioStornaiuolo
      @SaverioStornaiuolo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lapintelaurent7956

  • @MrThetrueis
    @MrThetrueis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A most simple way to learn Latin and translated languages like Chinese based on Herbert von Karajan conducts Bruckner’s Te Deum.
    That is because our eyeball moves faster from left to right (or right to left) than up to down.
    最簡單的學習拉丁語和中文方法,或者其他國的翻譯語言,基於赫伯特·馮·卡拉揚指揮布魯克納的《感恩頌歌》。
    這是因為我們的眼球從左到右(或者右到左)移動的速度比從上到下移動的速度更快。

  • @jorgeramos2494
    @jorgeramos2494 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Una obra del todo angélica, en el sentido estricto del término. El Coral es "sacred music" y Karajan es majestuoso. ¿Y qué decir del escenario? Pero eso no es todo. La traducción al latín intenta no sólo respetar la magnifiscencia del idioma, sino es un homenaje a la verdadera inteligencia humana. ¡Nos felicitemos todos!

  • @juancarlosnunezquezada8645
    @juancarlosnunezquezada8645 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    muy bueno,un 7

  • @ΚαλλιόπηΣταμάτη-κ4υ
    @ΚαλλιόπηΣταμάτη-κ4υ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Σέ εσένα ΘΕΕ μου.

  • @davidhung8
    @davidhung8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great performance of the very catholic Bruckner. Choir sings the Latin text by memory, admirable! Karajan seems to favor the left side of his profile so the violins are hardly shown. The camera also focuses exclusively on the women, as though the music was written for women choir.

  • @hansihinterseher9156
    @hansihinterseher9156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great performance but really poor audio quality :-(

  • @netizencapet
    @netizencapet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lover of Bruckner, I. yet I only find sections of the Te Deum inspiring...all the martial staccato sycopated tuttis tax me.

  • @さいちゃん-h3i
    @さいちゃん-h3i ปีที่แล้ว

    bravo

  • @josemazamoreno9193
    @josemazamoreno9193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    José Antoni brukner está grabación 19978 herbert von karajan sinfonía 9 de brukner Filarmónica de Viena muy buena i máx el tedeoun con grandes coro y solista fantástico está en primero en lazer disc resistiendo en dvd dorchegramofo pact 2 disco con sustitulo en ESPAÑOL latín inglés alemán tamien está la sinfonía 8 de brukner en san florian estupendo José Andrés Maza la recomendó

  • @georgsoehlke
    @georgsoehlke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unbelievable.....

  • @herol64700
    @herol64700 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    too bad about the audio

  • @GRANITEDAME
    @GRANITEDAME 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The chorus sopranos are excruciating.

  • @jorgecarrillo2
    @jorgecarrillo2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Karajan dirige.... Qué esperaban

  • @RandallHodge
    @RandallHodge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jack Woltz conducting. 😉

    • @LOLERXP
      @LOLERXP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "She was the greatest piece of voice I've ever heard, and I've heard them all over the world!"

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🍀💙😔🌸

  • @mrsneaky2010
    @mrsneaky2010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A precursor to minimalism!! Carl orff must have been influenced by this..

  • @aguador67
    @aguador67 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd rather rendition with Janet Perry, Helga Muller-Molinari, Gösta Winbergh and Alexander Malta, same orchestra and same conductor... :S

    • @furdiebant
      @furdiebant 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Berlin one with Peter Schreier et al is his best version

  • @MGT36480
    @MGT36480 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    シントウ、バルツァ、ファンダムって、カラヤンのオールスターキャストじゃん。

  • @dragucatalino9357
    @dragucatalino9357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnifico. Però, in materia di melodia e di geniale sorpresa, Mozart e Verdi hanno mangiato tutto....

  • @marc-bc8dg
    @marc-bc8dg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schlimm!

  • @胡
    @胡 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Audio is terrible, and Karajan's job on Te Deum is way worse than those of Jochum and Celibidache.

  • @bellerophon1218
    @bellerophon1218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So expressiv. So gnadenlos rein. So wahrhaftig. Purer Sound. Purer Ausdruck. Pure Musik. Karajan - Diener der Musik.

  • @bellerophon1218
    @bellerophon1218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Karajan forever!!

  • @AnnaMariaBarbastefano
    @AnnaMariaBarbastefano 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    it is really very important and interesting for the fans to have a complete description and the lyrics of the mass is superb -for this reason i ws so interested in your channel that i subscribed - good luck. regards from brazil.

    • @arnoldconrad744
      @arnoldconrad744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is not the Mass text but an ancient hymn of praise, joy and thanksgiving to the triune God composed at least as far back as the 4th century and included in the Ambrosian hymnal of Milan. It is often sung on great occasions. I remember reading how Charles de Gaulle marched through the streets of Paris on the day of liberation to Notre Dame Cathedral where the Te Deum was chanted as gun shots could still be heard.

  • @lapintelaurent7956
    @lapintelaurent7956 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:26... 777 15:32...

    • @lapintelaurent7956
      @lapintelaurent7956 ปีที่แล้ว

      En 1994 j'ai enregistré 410 521-2 sur une de mes trois Sony Metal Master(Brahms) ... en 1998 je trouve le CD double pour 140francs, Grenoble, rue de Sault...
      J'avais acheté 437 517-2 en 1993, à sa sortie.
      D'après M.Chiron, le grand disquaire de Romans, Abbado était devenu le plus grand chef du moment...
      16:12... aurais-je été réceptif à cette musique, sans tous mes paysages alpins adorés ?
      Bruckner...dans le Cubzaguais... au milieu des vignes ! 😂
      J'ai Jochum et Celibidache en CD-R... en 2008 ou 2009 j'ai acheté ce DVD sur eBay...